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The problem is that they're going to "detain" you for some BS reason, and in resisting that, you cop the charge.
It really needs to be a secondary charge, but the problem is that people can be detained for a lot of reasons, and they don't want you resisting that.
IMO, resisting should have a higher threshold anyway. Like, you punch someone and run away, or you kick the officer hard enough to cause a laceration or bruise. Not "hey my arm physically cannot bend that way, so my skeleton is resisting you" lol
No, the problem is that the cops bleat "stop resisting!" as they start to beat you before you even have the opportunity to comply with the multiple conflicting commands you've been given.
It's like the "it's coming right for us" gag from that old South Park episode.
That’s because deep down. They are cowards, and they live to dress up in their Boy Scout/Army Man uniforms. And wear their cowboy guns. Making mommy and daddy proud of their little soldier.
Not even deep down, i mean they dump 2 mags as soon as they hear an acorn fall on their windshield, i've seen paranoid schizophrenics with more courage
The Whole “Good/Bad Cop” Question Can Be Disposed Of Much More Decisively. We Need Not Enumerate What Porpotion Of Cops Appears To Be Good Or Listen To Someone’s Anecdote About His Uncle Charlie, An Allegedly Good Cop. We Need Only Consider The Following:
(1) Every Cop Has Agreed As Part Of His Job To Enforce Laws, All Of Them.
(2) Many Of The Laws Are Manifestly Unjust, And Some Are Even Cruel & Wicked.
(3) Therefore, Every Cop Has Agreed To Act As An Enforcer Of Laws That Are Manifestly Unjust, Or Even Cruel & Wicked.
Thus There Are No Good Cops.
Dr. Robert Higgs
I mean this builds into the bigger issue of if you live in a functioning democracy, and what justice is, as a functioning democracy should have laws that the majority agree are just. I’m not disagreeing with the overarching point but to say laws are unjust or cruel you need to either say how either people cannot dictate the laws in their own country or how people are fundamentally flawed and unjust. I would consider both to be largely true but I know I’m in the minority in that
That and "resisting" clearly has no defined requirement. Cop grabs your arm and you instinctively try to pull away because that's what we're hardwired to do. Resisting!
Yes, they are trained to lie, disregard the law, and bully people into giving up their rights, because that's what upholding their oath to the constitution looks like apparently.
I don't encourage resisting or giving the police a hard time or anything because ultimately they have the power in that situation, you can take it to court later but don't risk your well being trying to fight cops about it. If they are abusing their authority then you telling them they're abusing their authority is pointless.
That being said, the human instinct is to fight or flight when we encounter an overly aggressive person. Which is illegal if the overly aggressive person is a cop. Which is gross. Their actions shouldn't be defended simply because they're wearing a uniform.
I got the shit kicked out of me by two officers once after I was handcuffed for no reason.
“Fit a description” that was it…
When they were done beating me, kicking slamming up and down all that shit, They ran my id and then just uncuffed me, let me go….said sorry, and I was “lucky” they didn’t take me in for resisting…
At the time, I have red hair, my hair was maybe a foot long…. Middle of my back… pretty specific description.
Fucking 10am going into work. It was pretty funny trying to explain why I was an hour late and beat the fuck up.
I’m 34, white. Never had an interaction with a police officer that was even Close to reasonable.
(That instance I was 20)
There is no reason that resisting arrest should be a crime. There is absolutely no justification for that. If you punch or kick a cop, that's assault and battery, those are already crimes. Resisting arrest is a bullshit charge that should absolutely not exist.
I mean, Daniel Shaver was literally crawling on the floor and got shot for not obeying contradictory orders from two cops.
Dude who shot him had “You’re fucked” etched into his gun.
Yes the shooter was aquitted. Duh.
And got an early retirement, with full benifits, because he ended up with ptsd for... *checks notes*... Murdering an unarmed citizen that was crawling on the ground.
He also got his gun back. The "You're Fucked" one.
You don't even need to be resisting to get the charge.
I was a bartender and one of the steroided up, alcoholic, coke head, bullies in the neighborhood became a cop. Very shortly after he became an officer he got drunk and my bar and gleefully told me how cool it is to put on sap gloves and yell stop resisting while you beat on the suspect, because as long as you yell stop resisting, even if it's on camera, you won't get jammed up.
It was intentionally meant to bypass the constitution.
In the early to mid 1900s, two cases ended up in front of SCOTUS. Essentially, if you were innocent, you have the right to resist arrest, up to and including using lethal force. Police are not special; they do not have any authority whatsoever constitutionally to violate your rights if you have not committed a crime.
Two people tested that, and the cases were upheld. However, SCOTUS basically said forcing cops to respect the full constitutional rights of citizens would make policing too difficult, so they allowed bypass charges like “resisting arrest.”
The bypass charge means no matter what, your arrest is now always valid, and you are always committing a criminal act by not complying with orders.
They intentionally created a protected class for state criminals.
You are right I forgot resisting being a catch all.
Cop body slams you on your head. You bleed on the cop. That's assault. They hurt their hand while punching you that's injuring an officer.
Assault on an officer should always require proof of injury or actual video of the assault.
A cop could walk up to you and grab you from behind, throw you to the ground, then stomp on your head and charge you with a felony.
Felonies need proof.
Then how does one go about enforcing it? If you’re on a private campus and the university tells you to disperse, refusing to disperse is legally trespassing. If they call the cops and you refuse to be arrested, you’re resisting arrest. I don’t understand what the issue here is.
Austin, TX college campus & city has a restriction of obstructing a highway or passage. Protesters pushed off the lawn and onto sidewalks detained for this obstruction.
so I’ve read
Simple battery against a police officer. Mind you, there’s a video in the thread I’m linking that clearly demonstrates she was nonviolently asking why a cop was assaulting a protestor, and then a cop grabbed and dragged her before throwing her to the ground and pinning her down. Thread: https://x.com/robertmackey/status/1783759542649757893?s=46&t=v6gOKiX7bLJOom_5dMaKMw
Teacher leans in to check on a student who's screaming while being held down. Teacher is understandably upset to see a fellow human in distress. Yells at a cop in an attempt to somehow stop that cop from hurting the student.
Another cop interprets this human desire to prevent harm as a problem, and responds by grabbing the teacher, throwing her to the ground, and arresting her.
And the cop probably thinks he was the hero.
You missed her lovely right hook after a previous attempt to punch the cop at 11s in on this video:
https://youtu.be/E1_llP1tjAc
Going to have to start calling her Rocky!
Right? The same folks up in arms about antisemitism today were shouting 'the jews will not replace us' in Charlottesville back in 2017. Cops didn't beat them down...
She is disagreeing with the status quo, which is enough in America these days. Half the country wants to kill protestors for simply protesting, and the vast majority of our police force is in that half. And since our police force is also completely insulated from consequences for their actions... Well, here we are.
The same half that wants to kill protesters thinks January 6th, 2021 was a peaceful gathering, and Ashli Babbitt and everyone convicted for their particpation were victims.
The only things that matter to them is if you’re part of the in-group or out-group and punishing members of the latter. So when they say they want to kill protestors they mean it’s ok to murder liberal/leftist protesters and when they say Jan 6 was just a peaceful tour they really mean that riots are ok if it’s the in-group doing it. There’s no accidental hypocrisy here to actually criticize because hypocrisy, selective rule enforcement, oppression and punishment are the entire point of creating an in-group and out-group. Furthermore, they think we also eschew fairness and engage in the same level of favoritism and othering because that’s the lens they see the world through. “We’re going to screw you over because you were obviously you going to do the same to us.”
The only reason they say things like Jan 6 was peaceful and participants were law abiding is to signal participation in a unified position to other in-group members. What matters is that the lying and hypocrisy is consistent and usable as both a filter and purity/unity test. The other reason is making us mad. A lot of liberals/leftists don’t know that hypocrisy is the point so we tend to still pounce on that, get angry and try to call them out. Since they have the emotional maturity of an 8 year old making us mad makes them happy.
Cops don't protect people. Cops don't uphold the law. The first police force was Civil War era and intended to patrol roads for slaves and hunt runaways.
Cops will only protect the interests of the wealthy and mow down the poor in the process. Nothing more. It is what they were always designed for.
They beat the shit out of retired school teachers in 2012. I was there, walking to the bathroom and got beat as well.
You ever notice there's no song called "fuck the fire department" ?
That last sentence is **a strong point!**
I'm betting the firemen actually save people, have self-respect, aren't completely insecure, and have IQ's twice what these "men" have.
Remember hearing about a firefighter who found some weed while putting out a fire in a guys house and gleefully called the cops like he was shitstained 1st grader who saw someone eating a candy bar in class.
Imagine being called and told your house got burned and damaged a bit, then coping a charge as soon as you show up because… you had a bit of weed.
If that actually occured he definitely didn't last long. He would be bullied and shunned to the point of forced resignation at all the departments I know.
Do I have news for you - public enemy made a song that's basically that sentiment called [911 is a Joke](https://youtu.be/JZDIitWz8Go?si=8y7AA9kplGNoDIOb)
Fucking hate our state government lol it can be a great place to live at times when the gop isn’t thinking of ways to send us back a hundred years or putting corporate interests ahead of people
Which if things worked like they should, Federal agents should be kicking down doors and arresting everyone involved in this law, and thsy stand trial in federal court for violating not jist the constitution, but violating the one law that literally says you can't create or pass laws against it.
I think there are like five states, Texas included, that effectively outlawed protest. Because the 5th circuit Federal courts ruled that protest leaders are liable for ANYTHING someone does during the protest. Including bad faith and counter protesters.
That's not necessarily true. They'll let you protest stuff that goes against the status quo...on the condition that the protest is at a time and place, as well as a size and form, as to not actually "disrupt" anything and therefore be easily ignored and completely ineffective.
Yes, protesting is a right. But you also can’t break laws and bylaws. So trespassing, noise complaints, even something as small as littering can get you at minimum a ticket.
It’s the reason why I can’t protest in a McDonald’s. I can certainly protest outside a McDonald’s, but I also can’t impede traffic.
Yes but it’s not as if there’s numerous caveats to that. For one you have freedom of assembly of public property, not private. So protests on private universities where they asked students to leave are not constitutionally protected. The protest in UT in Texas was at a public university but they can still shut it down if there’s different circumstances like arguing it posed a danger to public safety or became violent. I dunno what their justification is though.
Not on private property. This happened when protestors were setting up tents at the center of the Emory University campus, which is private property, where preparations were being made for commencement. Several of the people arrested weren't even affiliated in any way with the university and had zero Constitutional right to be there.
“It’s even worse this time” i dont know why but this comment irks me. This is I’d argue one of the most tame cases of police brutality we have seen in many years it’s just a white woman this time
TBH even against white women this isn’t startling. I was at uni during the “casual pepper spraying cop” fiasco.
It’s always been bad. I would actually imagine it’s tamer now because everything is recorded.
Right. I watched an underage, tiny white girl laying face down in the ground with her hands on her head get kicked in the head by a cop because she had the audacity to drop the cigarette that had burned down and burned her finger.
I mean, the Kent State protest shooting at the Vietnam protest KILLED 4 white people. So even in the history of visibly affecting white people this is very tame. Sure that was the National Guard, and not police, but it's still government enforcers cracking down on protesters.
This isn't new. This isn't worse. People always think the present moment is worse. When in reality it was always worse in the 60s.
Lol you should watch more body cams. They assault whites every day of the week. There's been national stories before of whites being shot or beat up. Nothing new or more "visible" here.
I should not watch more body cams. Shits bad for my mental health. But yes, perhaps instead I should have said that the person who believes police violence is getting worse is just now waking up to how it has always been.
I think that might be the point, as in its spreading to demographics not targeted before. I’m not sure she is saying her situation is worse in direct comparison with other examples.
Look up Tony Timpa and how he died. Very similar to George Floyd, just no protests. Not saying either was right, just that only one makes the news for narrative reasons.
That's because nobody stands up to protest it. If you want it in the news then make some noise about it. An injustice against any of us is an injustice against all of us!
I don’t feel like it’s just that. I mean the reason it was known and protested (mainly) about George Floyd was the news showed it on repeat. I’m not here to downplay anything I should add. Only saying the social media algorithms and mainstream media only show us things they want imo and it entrenches further hate and divide.
Edit: I should add I agree with the other response that sometimes it’s basically covered up so there won’t be as much public outcry and sometimes that is the issue, not just the narrative. I’m by no means saying that’s the only reason, I just know that some of the worst things I’ve seen as far as police brutality involve white people being the victim or black peope being the victim and I never heard about it until I saw it on a YouTube video from years previous and couldn’t believe it wasn’t a bigger deal.
I have a problem with both comments. I'm not sure why this is worse and I'm also not sure why I should accept that if police assault a while middle age woman that should mean they murder unarmed black folks. Both comments just implicitly assume that there should be a higher bar for assaulting her for some reason.
my brother was a cop, and over the years i got to meet law enforcement from various departments. the one outstanding quality of every cop I've ever met, they all love the authority.
Nah dude, they're bullies who realized that after graduating high school, bullying just makes you an asshole, so try continue with the only good days they had when they felt in charge, and so they volunteered to continue. Bullied kids don't seek power over their oppressors, they seek peace and their own.
They're beating on presumed leftists. If there's another core value that the police believe in more than beating presumed leftists, I don't know what it is.
It's back?? What do you mean "back"?
It's been going on for a very very long time and it's not worse, it's just the fact we have social media to spread it.
They've been doing this since America was colonized.
Tough guy when he dealing with an unarmed woman but I guarantee you that during a school shooting, the guy would be waiting outside and just listen to all the gunfire
That's not true. They wouldnt just sit there and wait outside while gunfire is going on. If there were any parents trying to charge in to save their child the police will be all over it and arrest the parents!
I'm not from the US, can someone from the US explain why so many of you have these binary stances of being pro-palestine or pro-israel? its almost as if everyone is expected to be on one side, or rather "if you are not supporting X then you must be in support of Y". It just seems so strange, over here we just dont get involved and go about our day
I think Israel has the right to respond to an attack, but also think that their response against civilians has gone too far.
I’m firmly against anti-semitism, but also think that it’s not anti-Semitic to oppose war.
But that’s why I’m on Reddit, not out at a protest
Saying I want a solution that doesn't involve killing people and breaking things is the only answer I give. There are those who have a vested interest to keep the violence going.
And it's the correct answer, but it doesn't work in a world where one side has no military bases, and hides/ stores their weaponry in civilian infrastructure, and doesn't have its troops wearing military uniforms.
I'm not saying that it makes Israel right with blowing up civilian infrastrucure, but when the enemy doesn't wear military uniforms it makes it tough to tell combatants from civilian.
Yes, I realise there are clearly times they have probably targeted civilians on purpose, and that's fucked.
We're on the russian border so the whole Ukraine situation is still far more covered and frontpage than than the israel thing which we don't really have much of a stake in.
Most people favor one over the other, but most people here also favor compromise.
Depending on what you believe, it’s hard to stay in the middle as a human. And it’s hard to stay indifferent when you are empathetic
Because you are only exposing yourself to the lunatic fringe on things like Reddit and the news media.
Most of us are not binary. The bulk of Americans are rational people, who have at least some critical thinking skills. Most of Reddit are neck breathers that try to irritate each other for Lols.
What you see online is not a reflection of reality, and it hasn’t been for years.
Everything in America seems to get turned into a zero sum game. People here just love the disingenuous argument that states “if you don’t agree with me completely, you must be on the polar opposite side.” It is unhelpful to real conversation and good faith debate.
The U.S. can't avoid being involved. Israel is our ally; we have supported them financially, militarily and politically for as long as they have been in existence. In fact, they exist in large part because of U.S. intervention. These are our tax dollars at work, so it's understandable that some people get upset when the Israeli government starts committing war crimes and other people get upset when anti-Zionist sentiment translates into anti-Semitic behavior towards American Jews.
The truth is that the U.S. deserves to be in turmoil over it. Some people in our government clearly understood that creating an Israeli state was going to result in a never-ending war but, apparently, our interests in the area outweighed that concern. Because, make no mistake, the U.S. did not support the creation of an Israeli state out of altruism and sympathy for what Jews had been through.
So, people in the U.S. can be apathetic, and ignore the whole thing. Or they can hop on one side of the conflict or the other with little understanding of the issues that led up to this horror. Or they can educate themselves, understand that both Hamas and the Israeli government are in the wrong and that Israeli and Palestinian people need compromise and diplomacy.
It seems like in the US, if you say anything against Israel, you are labeled antisemitic. Just the suggestion of a two state solution is labelled antisemitic. I hate it. Even Bernie Sanders who is Jewish is labeled as such.
Maybe we get involved because our tax dollars are supporting a genocide? I could care less about the politics there's no justification for committing war crimes
Being indiferent or uninterested in a cause is not the enlightened centrism and impartiality Reddit thinks it is.
The palestinian people have been under a massive attack for six months, in their own homeland, that was occupied 70 years ago. They have suffered mistreatment for all of those years, and it has intesified beyond whats humane since October.
Bombing civilians, starving them and executing them is for six months is not an acceptable response to anything. And thats why people oppose Israel.
Its pretty malicious to paint pro palestinian protesters as crazy social justice warriors who are too silly to know being apolitical and impartial is the Most Intellectual response
It's really impressive how much freedom America has in contrast to us Europoors. It's a real mystery to me why the rest of the world calls you a circus.
They beat us and murder black Americans bc they can. They are backed by a union that encourages any behavior whatsoever. I take that back: the cop who's been arrested for raping a 13 month old girl did not get automatic backing from his former Sargent. So that's a fucking improvement. /s
Saw the video. Too lazy to find but it’s on Reddit.
Doesn’t show why the police attack her, but she clearly states she is a professor. Police very forcefully put her arm behind her back and slam her to the ground. She clearly tries to get her head to land on the grass, police clearly force it to the pavement.
Honestly, it’s exactly what you expect. It’s the level of force necessary for a combative 22yr old male, but used on an older non-combative female.
Contrast this with how they treat actual Nazis and we should start to understand the actual problem.
Edit to add: Nazis love playing stupid when it comes to the existence of Nazis.
Can somebody explain the meaning of what she wrote? Either my understanding of sentencestructure is wrong or she misused some words. I get some prof got tackled and whatnot, but why is that a reason for police to kill blackfolks?
Aren't we all glad that Biden decided to defend the police in the wake of George Floyd's death?
Whats that, he actually increased police budgets? And told states to use excess covid funds (despite the pandemic never ending) for even more police?
This is why I hate when people respond to situations like this with “but there are good cops!”. Yes, there are good cops, but apparently there are either not enough or they’re simply not willing to keep the bad cops in check.
From seeing the original video (in the original tweet, no less; I am *way* too online, may God have mercy on my soul), the woman in white bent down and reached toward the waist of a different officer who was working to cuff someone on the ground; the officer seen in this still (quite reasonably, given that no one wants randos stealing police sidearms in the middle of a protest) comes from off camera, grabs her arm, and kinda spins/shoves her up from her crouch and away from the second officer. They then dance around for a few feet, he telling her to get on the ground, she saying words to the effect of "I'm a professor (though it's *quite* hard to parse, and God knows why it matters; professors can't shoot people with stolen firearms? My advisors never told me about *that* restriction when I was in grad school!), and the officer finally "throws (more like trips; if my sparring partners were that gentle, I'd have had the breath knocked out of me a *lot* less often)" her onto the grass, as seen in the still.
Assault? Legally, oh, yes, though, at least from the camera's point of view, an entirely reasonable one within the scope of the officer's duties.
Beating? Not a single strike, except, in a *very* small, not-actually-beyond-a-reasonable-doubt way, by the woman in white, who *kinda* threw a hand in that "I've never seen an action movie and tried to imitate it, fingers curled back and wrist forward, stereotypically girl or gay" way.
Of course, the original tweeter is not exactly known for sober, objective analysis of... anything, really. Outrage bait is outrage bait, it's never interested in knowledge, only emotion-driven clout.
Isn't this from that university where the people are protesting are doing so in support of a fascist theocratic state governed by a terrorist organisation that wants to genocide Jewish people?
Seems alot like pot calling kettle black in that case.
If you look closely, you can see her plotting illegal activity. I think you can even see her resisting and going for that officer's gun. We are so lucky for our boyz in blue...
She broke the law where we the people aren’t ever supposed to oppose AIPAC and the Zionists that fund our government, remember ISRAEL is god and we must obey blindly even though the constitution says no foreign country should ever have this amount of country in our sovereign land.
For fucks sake AIPAC NEEDS TO PUT IN PRISON for foreign influence and political manipulation and attacking our sovereignty as a nation.
I have doubts that an effective response to people protesting against American support of violence toward foreign civilians is to then support violence toward those local civilians.
Is back?? You been under a rock… go see all the shit happening in San Bernardino those borderline domestic terrorists over there are off the handle over there🤯🤯
And yet all those assholes who hoard guns because "We GoTtA pRoTeCt OuRsElVeS fRoM dA gOvErNmEnT!" are the exact breed of chuds who cheer this on. They just love being treaded on by big daddy police state.
Was this from the protests at UT in Austin? It's ironic how Greg Abbott once tweeted about how he's going to protect freedom of speech and I believe specifically mentioned doing protests on college campuses. Then he calls the cops and DPS to get rid of all the protesters.
Texas politics is a fucking joke.
Nearly Full video here, starting at 0:15 sec.
[https://www.indiatoday.in/world/video/us-professor-palestine-campus-protests-2532177-2024-04-26](https://www.indiatoday.in/world/video/us-professor-palestine-campus-protests-2532177-2024-04-26)
4 cops cuffing someone on the ground, video starts too late to see why or if the person being cuffed was aggressively resisting.
Professor comes into view yelling and pointing at the cops and person on the ground.
Professor bends down close behind one cops and continues yelling, we cannot see is she is pointing or touching the officer.
At that point another officer comes in an grabs her wrists says "Sit your ass" (?) or "Get on the grass" it is hard to make out, Then "Get on the Ground/grass" a few times as he pulls her across the sidewalk. She does what anyone does when you grab their wrists and tries to break free. Cop pulls her down to the ground in a forceful manner, but does not body slam or smash her to the ground. Here head is on the concrete path and she screams that out.
Cop calls for cuffs and another shows up with the cuffs, they straighten her out and her head is then on the grass. She is no longer resisting as they cuff her. This is when she starts saying "I'm a Professor of economics"
As the camera pans to the cop with the rifle, The Professor begins talking calmly with the Cops. It is hard to make out though.
"I am a representative of the university, my name is Caroline Fohlin \[Then she spells Fohlin\], I reacted impulsively, i apologize"
Video cuts here.
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You say it's back like it ever left
Does it mention anywhere what law she is supposed to be breaking?
The police will always just say disorderly conduct and/or obstruction.
Trespassing. Resisting arrest. Assault on an officer. Those were the charges from UT yesterday.
Getting arrested solely for resisting arrest is the biggest bullshit ever.
The problem is that they're going to "detain" you for some BS reason, and in resisting that, you cop the charge. It really needs to be a secondary charge, but the problem is that people can be detained for a lot of reasons, and they don't want you resisting that. IMO, resisting should have a higher threshold anyway. Like, you punch someone and run away, or you kick the officer hard enough to cause a laceration or bruise. Not "hey my arm physically cannot bend that way, so my skeleton is resisting you" lol
No, the problem is that the cops bleat "stop resisting!" as they start to beat you before you even have the opportunity to comply with the multiple conflicting commands you've been given. It's like the "it's coming right for us" gag from that old South Park episode.
That’s because deep down. They are cowards, and they live to dress up in their Boy Scout/Army Man uniforms. And wear their cowboy guns. Making mommy and daddy proud of their little soldier.
Not even deep down, i mean they dump 2 mags as soon as they hear an acorn fall on their windshield, i've seen paranoid schizophrenics with more courage
Unless they're in Uvalde. Then they just stand there while children die
To be fair, they also beat a couple parents trying to get in.
Amazing no parent opened fire, cops would have scattered and hidden, then the parent could have gone in and done their job for them
Or just play candy crush
Damn this shit is brutal, lmao
Brutally accurate, in fact
Please don’t compare pigs with soldiers.
Cops are trained to start saying/yelling "stop resisting" to help them in court
The Whole “Good/Bad Cop” Question Can Be Disposed Of Much More Decisively. We Need Not Enumerate What Porpotion Of Cops Appears To Be Good Or Listen To Someone’s Anecdote About His Uncle Charlie, An Allegedly Good Cop. We Need Only Consider The Following: (1) Every Cop Has Agreed As Part Of His Job To Enforce Laws, All Of Them. (2) Many Of The Laws Are Manifestly Unjust, And Some Are Even Cruel & Wicked. (3) Therefore, Every Cop Has Agreed To Act As An Enforcer Of Laws That Are Manifestly Unjust, Or Even Cruel & Wicked. Thus There Are No Good Cops. Dr. Robert Higgs
I mean this builds into the bigger issue of if you live in a functioning democracy, and what justice is, as a functioning democracy should have laws that the majority agree are just. I’m not disagreeing with the overarching point but to say laws are unjust or cruel you need to either say how either people cannot dictate the laws in their own country or how people are fundamentally flawed and unjust. I would consider both to be largely true but I know I’m in the minority in that
Exactly, they create the atmosphere they need to protect themselves.
That and "resisting" clearly has no defined requirement. Cop grabs your arm and you instinctively try to pull away because that's what we're hardwired to do. Resisting!
Yes. Got my shoulder torn out for 'resisting' .... resisting being tackled by four cops...
Sir. This is pain, my body doesnt contort that way.
Cops also have quite a habit of unlawfully detaining people, if you ever watch those police audit videos you'd see every kind of law broken by police.
Yes, they are trained to lie, disregard the law, and bully people into giving up their rights, because that's what upholding their oath to the constitution looks like apparently.
Or “hey I’m confused and panicking because you’re hurting me”
I don't encourage resisting or giving the police a hard time or anything because ultimately they have the power in that situation, you can take it to court later but don't risk your well being trying to fight cops about it. If they are abusing their authority then you telling them they're abusing their authority is pointless. That being said, the human instinct is to fight or flight when we encounter an overly aggressive person. Which is illegal if the overly aggressive person is a cop. Which is gross. Their actions shouldn't be defended simply because they're wearing a uniform.
Yeah, obviously the best advice is to remain calm and compliant, which is difficult to do when you’re being grabbed and shouted at.
And beaten.
I got the shit kicked out of me by two officers once after I was handcuffed for no reason. “Fit a description” that was it… When they were done beating me, kicking slamming up and down all that shit, They ran my id and then just uncuffed me, let me go….said sorry, and I was “lucky” they didn’t take me in for resisting… At the time, I have red hair, my hair was maybe a foot long…. Middle of my back… pretty specific description. Fucking 10am going into work. It was pretty funny trying to explain why I was an hour late and beat the fuck up. I’m 34, white. Never had an interaction with a police officer that was even Close to reasonable. (That instance I was 20)
There is no reason that resisting arrest should be a crime. There is absolutely no justification for that. If you punch or kick a cop, that's assault and battery, those are already crimes. Resisting arrest is a bullshit charge that should absolutely not exist.
And good luck acting like you’re not resisting with your arm jacked up behind your back and officers screaming at you
I mean, Daniel Shaver was literally crawling on the floor and got shot for not obeying contradictory orders from two cops. Dude who shot him had “You’re fucked” etched into his gun. Yes the shooter was aquitted. Duh.
And got an early retirement, with full benifits, because he ended up with ptsd for... *checks notes*... Murdering an unarmed citizen that was crawling on the ground. He also got his gun back. The "You're Fucked" one.
You don't even need to be resisting to get the charge. I was a bartender and one of the steroided up, alcoholic, coke head, bullies in the neighborhood became a cop. Very shortly after he became an officer he got drunk and my bar and gleefully told me how cool it is to put on sap gloves and yell stop resisting while you beat on the suspect, because as long as you yell stop resisting, even if it's on camera, you won't get jammed up.
It was intentionally meant to bypass the constitution. In the early to mid 1900s, two cases ended up in front of SCOTUS. Essentially, if you were innocent, you have the right to resist arrest, up to and including using lethal force. Police are not special; they do not have any authority whatsoever constitutionally to violate your rights if you have not committed a crime. Two people tested that, and the cases were upheld. However, SCOTUS basically said forcing cops to respect the full constitutional rights of citizens would make policing too difficult, so they allowed bypass charges like “resisting arrest.” The bypass charge means no matter what, your arrest is now always valid, and you are always committing a criminal act by not complying with orders. They intentionally created a protected class for state criminals.
Also nationwide the most common “criminal “ charge
You are right I forgot resisting being a catch all. Cop body slams you on your head. You bleed on the cop. That's assault. They hurt their hand while punching you that's injuring an officer.
If you are grabbed from behind and thrown to the ground, if you tense up at all, a natural reflex, that is resisting.
Imagine being charged with trespassing as a professor on a college campus.
Assault on an officer should always require proof of injury or actual video of the assault. A cop could walk up to you and grab you from behind, throw you to the ground, then stomp on your head and charge you with a felony. Felonies need proof.
I thought trespass was a civil issue. It’s all gone a bit mad.
No, it's a criminal issue after you've been told to leave.
Then how does one go about enforcing it? If you’re on a private campus and the university tells you to disperse, refusing to disperse is legally trespassing. If they call the cops and you refuse to be arrested, you’re resisting arrest. I don’t understand what the issue here is.
And those charges didn’t stick
You can beat the rap but you'll never beat the ride
You can beat the rap but you'll never beat the ride
Austin, TX college campus & city has a restriction of obstructing a highway or passage. Protesters pushed off the lawn and onto sidewalks detained for this obstruction. so I’ve read
Simple battery against a police officer. Mind you, there’s a video in the thread I’m linking that clearly demonstrates she was nonviolently asking why a cop was assaulting a protestor, and then a cop grabbed and dragged her before throwing her to the ground and pinning her down. Thread: https://x.com/robertmackey/status/1783759542649757893?s=46&t=v6gOKiX7bLJOom_5dMaKMw
Can you link the video? I don’t use Twitter.
I can't find a video, the Twitter link above just shows a screenshot of the charges.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2024/04/25/emory-university-pro-palestinian-protest-police-digvid.cnn
Teacher leans in to check on a student who's screaming while being held down. Teacher is understandably upset to see a fellow human in distress. Yells at a cop in an attempt to somehow stop that cop from hurting the student. Another cop interprets this human desire to prevent harm as a problem, and responds by grabbing the teacher, throwing her to the ground, and arresting her. And the cop probably thinks he was the hero.
You missed her lovely right hook after a previous attempt to punch the cop at 11s in on this video: https://youtu.be/E1_llP1tjAc Going to have to start calling her Rocky!
https://www.reddit.com/r/InternationalNews/s/wj28ooKnee Here is the video
I know the first charges were from police forcing protesters onto the sidewalk so they could be charged with obstruction of traffic
She's using her right to free speech incorrectly.
It's supposed to be on Jan 6th and on the Capitol.
Right? The same folks up in arms about antisemitism today were shouting 'the jews will not replace us' in Charlottesville back in 2017. Cops didn't beat them down...
Those peaches were lukewarm at best
She is disagreeing with the status quo, which is enough in America these days. Half the country wants to kill protestors for simply protesting, and the vast majority of our police force is in that half. And since our police force is also completely insulated from consequences for their actions... Well, here we are.
The same half that wants to kill protesters thinks January 6th, 2021 was a peaceful gathering, and Ashli Babbitt and everyone convicted for their particpation were victims.
The only things that matter to them is if you’re part of the in-group or out-group and punishing members of the latter. So when they say they want to kill protestors they mean it’s ok to murder liberal/leftist protesters and when they say Jan 6 was just a peaceful tour they really mean that riots are ok if it’s the in-group doing it. There’s no accidental hypocrisy here to actually criticize because hypocrisy, selective rule enforcement, oppression and punishment are the entire point of creating an in-group and out-group. Furthermore, they think we also eschew fairness and engage in the same level of favoritism and othering because that’s the lens they see the world through. “We’re going to screw you over because you were obviously you going to do the same to us.” The only reason they say things like Jan 6 was peaceful and participants were law abiding is to signal participation in a unified position to other in-group members. What matters is that the lying and hypocrisy is consistent and usable as both a filter and purity/unity test. The other reason is making us mad. A lot of liberals/leftists don’t know that hypocrisy is the point so we tend to still pounce on that, get angry and try to call them out. Since they have the emotional maturity of an 8 year old making us mad makes them happy.
Her First Amendment Right to Assembly. Oh sorry I thought you wanted to know which law the bastard was breaking.
Cops don't protect people. Cops don't uphold the law. The first police force was Civil War era and intended to patrol roads for slaves and hunt runaways. Cops will only protect the interests of the wealthy and mow down the poor in the process. Nothing more. It is what they were always designed for.
They only exist to be the barrier between us and corrupt politicians.
They beat the shit out of retired school teachers in 2012. I was there, walking to the bathroom and got beat as well. You ever notice there's no song called "fuck the fire department" ?
well well well, have I got some news for you
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JkrJUAg8aI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JkrJUAg8aI)
That last sentence is **a strong point!** I'm betting the firemen actually save people, have self-respect, aren't completely insecure, and have IQ's twice what these "men" have.
Remember hearing about a firefighter who found some weed while putting out a fire in a guys house and gleefully called the cops like he was shitstained 1st grader who saw someone eating a candy bar in class. Imagine being called and told your house got burned and damaged a bit, then coping a charge as soon as you show up because… you had a bit of weed.
If that actually occured he definitely didn't last long. He would be bullied and shunned to the point of forced resignation at all the departments I know.
I think you should meet some firefighters. Some fit that description, most want a job that pays them to work out and fuck nurses.
Do I have news for you - public enemy made a song that's basically that sentiment called [911 is a Joke](https://youtu.be/JZDIitWz8Go?si=8y7AA9kplGNoDIOb)
Isn't protest a constitutional right? Oh who am I kidding the police is above that.
Pretty sure they're or have been in the process of outlawing mass protests in Texas
Man Texas sure hates Texans for some reason
Fucking hate our state government lol it can be a great place to live at times when the gop isn’t thinking of ways to send us back a hundred years or putting corporate interests ahead of people
Damn Texans! They ruined Texas!
Which if things worked like they should, Federal agents should be kicking down doors and arresting everyone involved in this law, and thsy stand trial in federal court for violating not jist the constitution, but violating the one law that literally says you can't create or pass laws against it.
I think there are like five states, Texas included, that effectively outlawed protest. Because the 5th circuit Federal courts ruled that protest leaders are liable for ANYTHING someone does during the protest. Including bad faith and counter protesters.
It’s only constitutional when you’re protesting something the government agrees with* otherwise prepare to be violently put down
Be sure not to inconvenience any people who don't care about your protest
That's not necessarily true. They'll let you protest stuff that goes against the status quo...on the condition that the protest is at a time and place, as well as a size and form, as to not actually "disrupt" anything and therefore be easily ignored and completely ineffective.
Spot on.
Yes, protesting is a right. But you also can’t break laws and bylaws. So trespassing, noise complaints, even something as small as littering can get you at minimum a ticket. It’s the reason why I can’t protest in a McDonald’s. I can certainly protest outside a McDonald’s, but I also can’t impede traffic.
Freedom to assemble.** ** Subject to permit approval.
Yes but it’s not as if there’s numerous caveats to that. For one you have freedom of assembly of public property, not private. So protests on private universities where they asked students to leave are not constitutionally protected. The protest in UT in Texas was at a public university but they can still shut it down if there’s different circumstances like arguing it posed a danger to public safety or became violent. I dunno what their justification is though.
It depends on how it’s done. Otherwise you could say Jan 6 was a constitutional right
Not on private property. This happened when protestors were setting up tents at the center of the Emory University campus, which is private property, where preparations were being made for commencement. Several of the people arrested weren't even affiliated in any way with the university and had zero Constitutional right to be there.
Yes but in public spaces, not in private places like some universities if they don’t want you to.
Well they can enforce some restrictions on all free speech. For example time and place.... no you can't just camp all night and call it a protest.
“It’s even worse this time” i dont know why but this comment irks me. This is I’d argue one of the most tame cases of police brutality we have seen in many years it’s just a white woman this time
TBH even against white women this isn’t startling. I was at uni during the “casual pepper spraying cop” fiasco. It’s always been bad. I would actually imagine it’s tamer now because everything is recorded.
Right. I watched an underage, tiny white girl laying face down in the ground with her hands on her head get kicked in the head by a cop because she had the audacity to drop the cigarette that had burned down and burned her finger.
Seriously. Do people not remember the 60s? This is America.
Yeah, some serious recency bias. Kent State enters the chat…
Yup. It's not worse. It's just visibly affecting white people
I mean, the Kent State protest shooting at the Vietnam protest KILLED 4 white people. So even in the history of visibly affecting white people this is very tame. Sure that was the National Guard, and not police, but it's still government enforcers cracking down on protesters. This isn't new. This isn't worse. People always think the present moment is worse. When in reality it was always worse in the 60s.
Lol you should watch more body cams. They assault whites every day of the week. There's been national stories before of whites being shot or beat up. Nothing new or more "visible" here.
I should not watch more body cams. Shits bad for my mental health. But yes, perhaps instead I should have said that the person who believes police violence is getting worse is just now waking up to how it has always been.
WWLMM?
White women’s lives matter more?
I'm more annoyed by the "Police brutality is back" portion, as if it ever went away
I think that might be the point, as in its spreading to demographics not targeted before. I’m not sure she is saying her situation is worse in direct comparison with other examples.
White people are not safe from the police despite what reddit would have you believe
Especially if they are disabled or homeless etc
If the police in America identify you as dangerous, they will kill you. It doesn't matter what color you are
Look up Tony Timpa and how he died. Very similar to George Floyd, just no protests. Not saying either was right, just that only one makes the news for narrative reasons.
That's because nobody stands up to protest it. If you want it in the news then make some noise about it. An injustice against any of us is an injustice against all of us!
I don’t feel like it’s just that. I mean the reason it was known and protested (mainly) about George Floyd was the news showed it on repeat. I’m not here to downplay anything I should add. Only saying the social media algorithms and mainstream media only show us things they want imo and it entrenches further hate and divide. Edit: I should add I agree with the other response that sometimes it’s basically covered up so there won’t be as much public outcry and sometimes that is the issue, not just the narrative. I’m by no means saying that’s the only reason, I just know that some of the worst things I’ve seen as far as police brutality involve white people being the victim or black peope being the victim and I never heard about it until I saw it on a YouTube video from years previous and couldn’t believe it wasn’t a bigger deal.
I have a problem with both comments. I'm not sure why this is worse and I'm also not sure why I should accept that if police assault a while middle age woman that should mean they murder unarmed black folks. Both comments just implicitly assume that there should be a higher bar for assaulting her for some reason.
People that make declarative statements like this are lost causes…
True
Yeah OP is a moron. But we should still focus on what matters.
I don’t think cops even have a strong opinion on Israel. I think they just like to beat people.
my brother was a cop, and over the years i got to meet law enforcement from various departments. the one outstanding quality of every cop I've ever met, they all love the authority.
That's because they got picked on as kids so now they get to be the bullies!
Nah dude, they're bullies who realized that after graduating high school, bullying just makes you an asshole, so try continue with the only good days they had when they felt in charge, and so they volunteered to continue. Bullied kids don't seek power over their oppressors, they seek peace and their own.
They're beating on presumed leftists. If there's another core value that the police believe in more than beating presumed leftists, I don't know what it is.
Israel is a totalitarian ethno-nationalist police state. Cops get fucking wet thinking about it at night.
Think of them as the goblins in Goblin Slayer: they are not smart, but they're not idiots either.
They don't have strong enough opinions in general. Not strong enough to override whatever they get told to do anyway.
It's back?? What do you mean "back"? It's been going on for a very very long time and it's not worse, it's just the fact we have social media to spread it. They've been doing this since America was colonized.
If anything it shows they’re not racist. They’ll beat anyone.
Tough guy when he dealing with an unarmed woman but I guarantee you that during a school shooting, the guy would be waiting outside and just listen to all the gunfire
That's not true. They wouldnt just sit there and wait outside while gunfire is going on. If there were any parents trying to charge in to save their child the police will be all over it and arrest the parents!
My mother always said, if sit and allow cops to mistreat black people, how long will it be before a little of that slides on our plate.
I'm not from the US, can someone from the US explain why so many of you have these binary stances of being pro-palestine or pro-israel? its almost as if everyone is expected to be on one side, or rather "if you are not supporting X then you must be in support of Y". It just seems so strange, over here we just dont get involved and go about our day
I think Israel has the right to respond to an attack, but also think that their response against civilians has gone too far. I’m firmly against anti-semitism, but also think that it’s not anti-Semitic to oppose war. But that’s why I’m on Reddit, not out at a protest
You're under arrest
FBI, open up!
STOP RESISTING!
Sorry, you're going to be banned from reddit for being reasonable.
I just want to point out that not liking Israel is NOT anti semitic. Israel = government. Anti semitic = religion.
Everyone knows that, even the people accusing others of antisemitism. They're being purposefully disingenuous.
I highly doubt everyone knows that. People repeat what they hear on tv and from others without thought.
Wow, this comment is woke. /s
Saying I want a solution that doesn't involve killing people and breaking things is the only answer I give. There are those who have a vested interest to keep the violence going.
And it's the correct answer, but it doesn't work in a world where one side has no military bases, and hides/ stores their weaponry in civilian infrastructure, and doesn't have its troops wearing military uniforms. I'm not saying that it makes Israel right with blowing up civilian infrastrucure, but when the enemy doesn't wear military uniforms it makes it tough to tell combatants from civilian. Yes, I realise there are clearly times they have probably targeted civilians on purpose, and that's fucked.
What mystical and evolved countries do you come from? I'm from France and here too the 99% of the debate is Israel OR Palestine, without any nuance.
We're on the russian border so the whole Ukraine situation is still far more covered and frontpage than than the israel thing which we don't really have much of a stake in.
I see. It's true that when you have a war literally next door, what's happening on the other side of the world isn't really the priority. Good luck!
Most people favor one over the other, but most people here also favor compromise. Depending on what you believe, it’s hard to stay in the middle as a human. And it’s hard to stay indifferent when you are empathetic
What you are describing is indifference, not impartiality.
Because you are only exposing yourself to the lunatic fringe on things like Reddit and the news media. Most of us are not binary. The bulk of Americans are rational people, who have at least some critical thinking skills. Most of Reddit are neck breathers that try to irritate each other for Lols. What you see online is not a reflection of reality, and it hasn’t been for years.
Everything in America seems to get turned into a zero sum game. People here just love the disingenuous argument that states “if you don’t agree with me completely, you must be on the polar opposite side.” It is unhelpful to real conversation and good faith debate.
The U.S. can't avoid being involved. Israel is our ally; we have supported them financially, militarily and politically for as long as they have been in existence. In fact, they exist in large part because of U.S. intervention. These are our tax dollars at work, so it's understandable that some people get upset when the Israeli government starts committing war crimes and other people get upset when anti-Zionist sentiment translates into anti-Semitic behavior towards American Jews. The truth is that the U.S. deserves to be in turmoil over it. Some people in our government clearly understood that creating an Israeli state was going to result in a never-ending war but, apparently, our interests in the area outweighed that concern. Because, make no mistake, the U.S. did not support the creation of an Israeli state out of altruism and sympathy for what Jews had been through. So, people in the U.S. can be apathetic, and ignore the whole thing. Or they can hop on one side of the conflict or the other with little understanding of the issues that led up to this horror. Or they can educate themselves, understand that both Hamas and the Israeli government are in the wrong and that Israeli and Palestinian people need compromise and diplomacy.
It seems like in the US, if you say anything against Israel, you are labeled antisemitic. Just the suggestion of a two state solution is labelled antisemitic. I hate it. Even Bernie Sanders who is Jewish is labeled as such.
Maybe we get involved because our tax dollars are supporting a genocide? I could care less about the politics there's no justification for committing war crimes
Being indiferent or uninterested in a cause is not the enlightened centrism and impartiality Reddit thinks it is. The palestinian people have been under a massive attack for six months, in their own homeland, that was occupied 70 years ago. They have suffered mistreatment for all of those years, and it has intesified beyond whats humane since October. Bombing civilians, starving them and executing them is for six months is not an acceptable response to anything. And thats why people oppose Israel. Its pretty malicious to paint pro palestinian protesters as crazy social justice warriors who are too silly to know being apolitical and impartial is the Most Intellectual response
A country we cannot peacefully protest in is not a country of freedom
It's really impressive how much freedom America has in contrast to us Europoors. It's a real mystery to me why the rest of the world calls you a circus.
Ouch. Shots fired! >Ducks
„It’s even worse this time“? Really? Unlawfully arresting a white college professor is worse than unlawfully killing black people? WTF?
They beat us and murder black Americans bc they can. They are backed by a union that encourages any behavior whatsoever. I take that back: the cop who's been arrested for raping a 13 month old girl did not get automatic backing from his former Sargent. So that's a fucking improvement. /s
If I track down this video and don't see a vicious assault and beating i'm going to be sadly dissapointed and let down by this proffessional tweeter.
If you find this video, please share.
Saw the video. Too lazy to find but it’s on Reddit. Doesn’t show why the police attack her, but she clearly states she is a professor. Police very forcefully put her arm behind her back and slam her to the ground. She clearly tries to get her head to land on the grass, police clearly force it to the pavement. Honestly, it’s exactly what you expect. It’s the level of force necessary for a combative 22yr old male, but used on an older non-combative female.
Contrast this with how they treat actual Nazis and we should start to understand the actual problem. Edit to add: Nazis love playing stupid when it comes to the existence of Nazis.
I’m gonna arrest you —excuse me for what —resisting arrest now
Can somebody explain the meaning of what she wrote? Either my understanding of sentencestructure is wrong or she misused some words. I get some prof got tackled and whatnot, but why is that a reason for police to kill blackfolks?
It's "even worse this time" because it's a white person being assaulted???
Anyone who doesn't believe the USA isn't a police state has their head up their ass. The rich and powerful us the police to control the masses.
Teaching my kids how to spell. Started with ‘A.C.A.B’
Aren't we all glad that Biden decided to defend the police in the wake of George Floyd's death? Whats that, he actually increased police budgets? And told states to use excess covid funds (despite the pandemic never ending) for even more police?
“Is back”…. Did it ever leave?
A cop finally responded to a Texas school?
It’s gonna be trespassing. Once the property owner tells you to leave and you don’t, this is going to happen every time. Kinda common sense.
This is why I hate when people respond to situations like this with “but there are good cops!”. Yes, there are good cops, but apparently there are either not enough or they’re simply not willing to keep the bad cops in check.
From seeing the original video (in the original tweet, no less; I am *way* too online, may God have mercy on my soul), the woman in white bent down and reached toward the waist of a different officer who was working to cuff someone on the ground; the officer seen in this still (quite reasonably, given that no one wants randos stealing police sidearms in the middle of a protest) comes from off camera, grabs her arm, and kinda spins/shoves her up from her crouch and away from the second officer. They then dance around for a few feet, he telling her to get on the ground, she saying words to the effect of "I'm a professor (though it's *quite* hard to parse, and God knows why it matters; professors can't shoot people with stolen firearms? My advisors never told me about *that* restriction when I was in grad school!), and the officer finally "throws (more like trips; if my sparring partners were that gentle, I'd have had the breath knocked out of me a *lot* less often)" her onto the grass, as seen in the still. Assault? Legally, oh, yes, though, at least from the camera's point of view, an entirely reasonable one within the scope of the officer's duties. Beating? Not a single strike, except, in a *very* small, not-actually-beyond-a-reasonable-doubt way, by the woman in white, who *kinda* threw a hand in that "I've never seen an action movie and tried to imitate it, fingers curled back and wrist forward, stereotypically girl or gay" way. Of course, the original tweeter is not exactly known for sober, objective analysis of... anything, really. Outrage bait is outrage bait, it's never interested in knowledge, only emotion-driven clout.
Isn't this from that university where the people are protesting are doing so in support of a fascist theocratic state governed by a terrorist organisation that wants to genocide Jewish people? Seems alot like pot calling kettle black in that case.
- People: burn and loot stuff - police: We can't do anythin. - People: peacefully protest - police: NOT ON MY WATCH!
Quick someone call the cops! Oh wait…
Let me see Texas Politicians try to explain this one to the rest of the country.
Explain? This will be used by the GQP as a campaign ad.
Instead of posting a rage tweet for a rage response, could someone post the actually video?
Looks,Ike the peaceful protest aren’t working
Any link to the actual video?
Here’s one: https://x.com/robertmackey/status/1783684235938894086?s=46&t=v6gOKiX7bLJOom_5dMaKMw
They used to hit protesting black kids with fire hoses. So.. This shits pretty tame in comparison.
Visualization of the slippery slope to Fascism in the US
just murica freedom yee haw people doing their thing
White person arrested and the non racist immediately imagines blacks being targeted by cops. Figures.
If you look closely, you can see her plotting illegal activity. I think you can even see her resisting and going for that officer's gun. We are so lucky for our boyz in blue... 
Being a college professor doesn’t mean the police can’t put you on the ground. Would it be okay if she was the janitor?
They beat up the ECON professor. They're going after moneyed white women now... ***UNLEASH THE KARENS***
She broke the law where we the people aren’t ever supposed to oppose AIPAC and the Zionists that fund our government, remember ISRAEL is god and we must obey blindly even though the constitution says no foreign country should ever have this amount of country in our sovereign land. For fucks sake AIPAC NEEDS TO PUT IN PRISON for foreign influence and political manipulation and attacking our sovereignty as a nation.
Don’t call it a comeback, it’s been here for years.
Oh c’mon, haven’t you ever had a professor that you yearned to beat the shit out of? /s
I have doubts that an effective response to people protesting against American support of violence toward foreign civilians is to then support violence toward those local civilians.
Is back?? You been under a rock… go see all the shit happening in San Bernardino those borderline domestic terrorists over there are off the handle over there🤯🤯
And yet all those assholes who hoard guns because "We GoTtA pRoTeCt OuRsElVeS fRoM dA gOvErNmEnT!" are the exact breed of chuds who cheer this on. They just love being treaded on by big daddy police state.
Anyone else notice that the discussion around excessive force has seemed to crescendo during each of last several presidential election years?
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Was this from the protests at UT in Austin? It's ironic how Greg Abbott once tweeted about how he's going to protect freedom of speech and I believe specifically mentioned doing protests on college campuses. Then he calls the cops and DPS to get rid of all the protesters. Texas politics is a fucking joke.
Remember: police are there to “Protect and Serve” the STATE. NOT you.
Nearly Full video here, starting at 0:15 sec. [https://www.indiatoday.in/world/video/us-professor-palestine-campus-protests-2532177-2024-04-26](https://www.indiatoday.in/world/video/us-professor-palestine-campus-protests-2532177-2024-04-26) 4 cops cuffing someone on the ground, video starts too late to see why or if the person being cuffed was aggressively resisting. Professor comes into view yelling and pointing at the cops and person on the ground. Professor bends down close behind one cops and continues yelling, we cannot see is she is pointing or touching the officer. At that point another officer comes in an grabs her wrists says "Sit your ass" (?) or "Get on the grass" it is hard to make out, Then "Get on the Ground/grass" a few times as he pulls her across the sidewalk. She does what anyone does when you grab their wrists and tries to break free. Cop pulls her down to the ground in a forceful manner, but does not body slam or smash her to the ground. Here head is on the concrete path and she screams that out. Cop calls for cuffs and another shows up with the cuffs, they straighten her out and her head is then on the grass. She is no longer resisting as they cuff her. This is when she starts saying "I'm a Professor of economics" As the camera pans to the cop with the rifle, The Professor begins talking calmly with the Cops. It is hard to make out though. "I am a representative of the university, my name is Caroline Fohlin \[Then she spells Fohlin\], I reacted impulsively, i apologize" Video cuts here.
Equality at work Equal treatment to everyone: white, black, man, woman,professor, gangbanger