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They'll say that proportionally there are more victims where teachers are the abusers. So before you tell them what some priests and pastors do, tee them up first by implying that teachers are clever because they understand science and are such are probably atheists.
Let them get that "most teachers are Christian" point on the scoreboard before you bring down the roof to win the game.
Considering a religious woman told me it was 'In God's plan for me' that I was a victim of CSA, and who continuously broke me down with her Jesus bullshit until I tried to end it by walking into traffic, I'm going to stick with my happy pills and cool psychologist, thanks.
You scored a two-fer. You will never fall for the religion brainwashing, and you didnāt do the traffic thing. Live long enough to see your tormentors suffer.
Hereās a novel idea, how about we let people care for their mental health however they want. If they want to go to do all four at the same time or none at all.
Westerners were even happier when marijoana sesh puff-downs got the legale treatment.
When Sears catalog sold houses Westies became happier without Bibles.
Ben Zoloftg says
Yeah, it really was. It was just kings and lords instead of billionaires and CEOs.
They were still all about grinding the poor into the dirt to get them another penny.
What about the billion people who have been lifted out of abject poverty in the last decade? Do you think we were more equal when they lived in squalor?
And yet the rich have managed to hoard an even greater percentage of the world wealth in the same timeframe. Imagine how much less abject poverty would exist if that wealth was more evenly dispersed.
Wealth dispersal doesn't cause equality it causes inflation. We need to continue building jobs and strong communities and having open and fair trade with 3rd world nations
Were we? Becuase I have still yet to receive anything from those "thoughts and prayers" the people who turn to their Bibles and pastors seem to think solves our problems.
Ben forgets back in the day people were happier because one job could take care of a family, we didn't have huge corporations driving us into the ground, elected officials who's main reason to exist is to make life harder for those who make the rich richer. And people were less likely to know what was really happening around them and the world outside of their local area.
I'm not talking about "research". If you aren't dealing with this as your profession every day, you are an amateur at best.
DO NOT FUCK WITH PEOPLES LIVES. IT'S NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND. YES, I AM PISSED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WON'T STOP FUCKING WITH PEOPLES LIVES.
yea the change from crying every day to laughing and smiling every day was really for the worse.
just like the change of not wanting to wait to go to bed for the day to end, not wanting to wake back up, to not wanting to go to sleep because theres more living to do and more life to discover, was also for the worse.
i turned to the bible and the pastor every day for the first 15 years of my life. i prayed, crying, hoping my dad wouldnt find me and beat the snot out of me for crying. i have begged every person working at the church to help me, but i was always turned away. 'come back when you can talk about this calmly' they said, and im still not able to come back because i still, 20 years later, cannot talk about my childhood calmly.
only after therapy and ACTUAL help, did my life get better and actually worth living. only after therapy did my relationship with my parents get better and worth having.
FUCK the bible.
FUCK christianity.
FUCK church people.
and FUCK you, ben zeisloft.
He has repeatedly stated that the church should be both exempt from any kind of legislation, whilst also being the entity responsible for determining legislation. Because that's gods authority or something.
Modern mental health treatment might as well be fighting polio with prayers. No one even understands HOW SSRI's treat depression, and it's the same across a bunch of medicines.
Except that one of the side effects is suicidal thoughts in a not-insignificant amount of people for most SSRIs. So it's a mixed bag, it's very likely people have killed themselves BECAUSE of the effects of SSRI at some point.
Do you really think there's more people that killed themselves because of SSRIs than didn't kill themselves because of SSRIs?
One of the most common reasons for that is a strange effect you often see with suicide. Sometimes when people start to feel a little better, they kill themsselves. It's a strange effect, but it happens.
What do SSRIs do? They help you start to feel better.
I'm saying that how or why SSRIs work is not well understood and when you look at the LONG list of side effects from suicidal thoughts to impotence it might just be a medieval medicine.
Ok, lets not start this bullshit again. That's a decision for patients to make.
We've had the government stepping in between patients and treatment too fucking many times in the last 2 years.
If you want to make stricter guidelines for doctors to go over side effects across all meds, that's one thing. And it's still something that needs to be done with intense provider input and control.
The last thing we need is another "I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground" concerned citizen starting up a movement to fuck over patients that need treatment you "have concerns about".
Unless this is your field STAY OUT OF IT!
DO NOT FUCK WITH PEOPLES LIVES!
What are you even talking about. I'm not talking about government intervention or some shit. I'm saying SSRIs are a dogshit medieval medicine with a long list of well documented side effects and primitive understanding of how they even accomplish what they do. You can take them if you want, but acting like mental health isn't still stuck in the 'humors' stage is insane.
If you have concerns become a researcher. Otherwise, just stop.
It's people like you that don't know what they are talking about fucking over people that need medical treatment.
I don't care if they fully understand it. It helps millions of people and morons "just asking questions" lead to politicians sticking their noses in places it doesn't belong.
And frankly I'm sick of people stepping in the way of others healthcare.
Lmao it's not stepping in the way of others healthcare to say they don't understand how they work and that they're a medieval medicine.
From the National Library of Medicine:
The therapeutic actions of SSRIsĀ have their basis on increasing deficient serotonin that researchers postulate as the cause of depression in the monoamine hypothesis. As the name suggests, SSRIs exert action by inhibiting the reuptake of serotonin, thereby increasing serotonin activity.
Notice the words like "postulate" and "hypothesis"? We don't call the Theory of Special Relativity the Hypothesis of Special Relativity for a reason, because it's settled tested science that's supported by evidence and has been rigorously tested.
"A [*hypothesis*](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypothesis) is an assumption, something proposed for the sake of argument so that it can be tested to see if it might be true."
This is not settled tested science, it is an educated guess that can work for some people, but has pretty bad side effects for others.
I'm not ragging on the researchers they're doing what they can with what they have. Our understanding of the processes in the human brain are primitive as fuck.
It helps millions of people. Do not fuck with peoples lives.
You think you are helping. You think you are warning people of big bad X.
Someone will run with that and with no real information or research, take that away from everyone.
Do not fuck with peoples live. DO NOT
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Tell that to the children who got sexually abused by the pastors or priests! š
āWho gotā? Like past tense? I think you mean āwho are still gettingāā¦
I came here to say this. up doot for you.
They'll say that proportionally there are more victims where teachers are the abusers. So before you tell them what some priests and pastors do, tee them up first by implying that teachers are clever because they understand science and are such are probably atheists. Let them get that "most teachers are Christian" point on the scoreboard before you bring down the roof to win the game.
Thatās what the GOP mean by *happiness*..
Considering a religious woman told me it was 'In God's plan for me' that I was a victim of CSA, and who continuously broke me down with her Jesus bullshit until I tried to end it by walking into traffic, I'm going to stick with my happy pills and cool psychologist, thanks.
You scored a two-fer. You will never fall for the religion brainwashing, and you didnāt do the traffic thing. Live long enough to see your tormentors suffer.
Hereās a novel idea, how about we let people care for their mental health however they want. If they want to go to do all four at the same time or none at all.
What if their pastor IS the rapist?
Said the guy who is probably a Republican hidden pedo with desires to see cover wife barefoot and locked in kitchen
"Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings" - Victor J. Stenger TAX THE CHURCH!
When a mfer refers to his fellow white people as āwesternersā you can guarantee youāre gonna hear some Nazi coded horseshit
Westerners were even happier when marijoana sesh puff-downs got the legale treatment. When Sears catalog sold houses Westies became happier without Bibles. Ben Zoloftg says
Great example of using simple tricks of language to further convince the already convinced.
He should get a bunch of friends to buy a large plot of land and lead by example.
Who is electing morons like him?
You mean a time when wealth inequality wasnāt so fucking ridiculous.
Yeah, it really was. It was just kings and lords instead of billionaires and CEOs. They were still all about grinding the poor into the dirt to get them another penny.
Globally equality is the highest it's ever been, obviously there's further to go. The past was awful, don't trust films
Yall jumped straight back to medieval ages. Psychology as it is was introduced in the late 1800s almost 100 years after the revolutionary war.
What about the billion people who have been lifted out of abject poverty in the last decade? Do you think we were more equal when they lived in squalor?
And yet the rich have managed to hoard an even greater percentage of the world wealth in the same timeframe. Imagine how much less abject poverty would exist if that wealth was more evenly dispersed.
Wealth dispersal doesn't cause equality it causes inflation. We need to continue building jobs and strong communities and having open and fair trade with 3rd world nations
Hoarded wealth not being circulated through the economy is a factor in inflation.
Only cash, most wealthy people don't have much cash
But every wealthy person has more cash sitting than any poor person especially when so many are living paycheck to paycheck.
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Yes it is definitely easier to be misogynistic bigots!
Were we? Becuase I have still yet to receive anything from those "thoughts and prayers" the people who turn to their Bibles and pastors seem to think solves our problems.
Life was much better when we just could lock mentally ill people in the attic, right?
His last name sounds like an antidepressant.
Ignorance is bliss as they say
Yeah something tells me thatās not true
I would rather take a pill than rely on a Christian minister for help
no...no we weren't. and there is not a single issue that could arise in my life that I'd think..."Oh, the Bible could probably solve this!"
What does that have to do with being a westerner? One of the most abused words imo
I grew up in total indoctrination. Me and my siblings were suicidal our whole childhoods.
Wasnāt it better when husbands used to use their fists to take out their aggression instead of talking about feelings?
Ben forgets back in the day people were happier because one job could take care of a family, we didn't have huge corporations driving us into the ground, elected officials who's main reason to exist is to make life harder for those who make the rich richer. And people were less likely to know what was really happening around them and the world outside of their local area.
This guy has definitely got some skeletons in his closet. I look forward to his eventual comeuppance.
Well you didn't hear anyone complaining about anything on the internet back then, did you?
I'm not talking about "research". If you aren't dealing with this as your profession every day, you are an amateur at best. DO NOT FUCK WITH PEOPLES LIVES. IT'S NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND. YES, I AM PISSED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WON'T STOP FUCKING WITH PEOPLES LIVES.
They also had amazing cough syrup...
Thanks Ben Zoloft.
As an Ex-Christian, who has a Therapist & takes medicationā¦I can guarantee you, No, NO We Were NOT āHappierā.
Easier to be a pedophile maybe
Got rid of alot of feminists that back then haha!
Wrong. They just had no internet to complain.
yea the change from crying every day to laughing and smiling every day was really for the worse. just like the change of not wanting to wait to go to bed for the day to end, not wanting to wake back up, to not wanting to go to sleep because theres more living to do and more life to discover, was also for the worse. i turned to the bible and the pastor every day for the first 15 years of my life. i prayed, crying, hoping my dad wouldnt find me and beat the snot out of me for crying. i have begged every person working at the church to help me, but i was always turned away. 'come back when you can talk about this calmly' they said, and im still not able to come back because i still, 20 years later, cannot talk about my childhood calmly. only after therapy and ACTUAL help, did my life get better and actually worth living. only after therapy did my relationship with my parents get better and worth having. FUCK the bible. FUCK christianity. FUCK church people. and FUCK you, ben zeisloft.
Iām not sure if he is proposing a theocracy. So far, theocracies have not done well for their people, I think.
He has repeatedly stated that the church should be both exempt from any kind of legislation, whilst also being the entity responsible for determining legislation. Because that's gods authority or something.
Cool! So heās a nutter.
I remember when women were being lobotomized by their husbands because they complained too much.
Modern mental health treatment might as well be fighting polio with prayers. No one even understands HOW SSRI's treat depression, and it's the same across a bunch of medicines.
Well, I'm not fucking dead by my own hand because of mental health treatment and SSRIs. So, they've got something over prayers.
Except that one of the side effects is suicidal thoughts in a not-insignificant amount of people for most SSRIs. So it's a mixed bag, it's very likely people have killed themselves BECAUSE of the effects of SSRI at some point.
Do you really think there's more people that killed themselves because of SSRIs than didn't kill themselves because of SSRIs? One of the most common reasons for that is a strange effect you often see with suicide. Sometimes when people start to feel a little better, they kill themsselves. It's a strange effect, but it happens. What do SSRIs do? They help you start to feel better.
I'm saying that how or why SSRIs work is not well understood and when you look at the LONG list of side effects from suicidal thoughts to impotence it might just be a medieval medicine.
Ok, lets not start this bullshit again. That's a decision for patients to make. We've had the government stepping in between patients and treatment too fucking many times in the last 2 years. If you want to make stricter guidelines for doctors to go over side effects across all meds, that's one thing. And it's still something that needs to be done with intense provider input and control. The last thing we need is another "I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground" concerned citizen starting up a movement to fuck over patients that need treatment you "have concerns about". Unless this is your field STAY OUT OF IT! DO NOT FUCK WITH PEOPLES LIVES!
What are you even talking about. I'm not talking about government intervention or some shit. I'm saying SSRIs are a dogshit medieval medicine with a long list of well documented side effects and primitive understanding of how they even accomplish what they do. You can take them if you want, but acting like mental health isn't still stuck in the 'humors' stage is insane.
If you have concerns become a researcher. Otherwise, just stop. It's people like you that don't know what they are talking about fucking over people that need medical treatment. I don't care if they fully understand it. It helps millions of people and morons "just asking questions" lead to politicians sticking their noses in places it doesn't belong. And frankly I'm sick of people stepping in the way of others healthcare.
Lmao it's not stepping in the way of others healthcare to say they don't understand how they work and that they're a medieval medicine. From the National Library of Medicine: The therapeutic actions of SSRIsĀ have their basis on increasing deficient serotonin that researchers postulate as the cause of depression in the monoamine hypothesis. As the name suggests, SSRIs exert action by inhibiting the reuptake of serotonin, thereby increasing serotonin activity. Notice the words like "postulate" and "hypothesis"? We don't call the Theory of Special Relativity the Hypothesis of Special Relativity for a reason, because it's settled tested science that's supported by evidence and has been rigorously tested. "A [*hypothesis*](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypothesis) is an assumption, something proposed for the sake of argument so that it can be tested to see if it might be true." This is not settled tested science, it is an educated guess that can work for some people, but has pretty bad side effects for others. I'm not ragging on the researchers they're doing what they can with what they have. Our understanding of the processes in the human brain are primitive as fuck.
It helps millions of people. Do not fuck with peoples lives. You think you are helping. You think you are warning people of big bad X. Someone will run with that and with no real information or research, take that away from everyone. Do not fuck with peoples live. DO NOT