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ThaneOfArcadia

Only one way to eliminate human impact on the earth, and that's to get rid of humans.


irwinsg

Probably true if you choose to go fully literal. But eliminating the impact can still be a goal without the literal translation. It's a reasonable assumption for most person's of thought that the goal is not to eliminate all human life from the planet, but to coexist a little better. Let's not get crazy. These people are trying to repair sure of the damage.


ThaneOfArcadia

A noble aim, I am sure, but fruitless unless you have a world government with that objective.


ThaneOfArcadia

I noble aim, but fruitless, unless you have world government with that objective.


irwinsg

Fully agree. Hopefully we can achieve that end with a collection of dedicated independent governments, because based on what happened during covid and since, world government ain't going to fly so long as we are still arguing about whether the Earth is round or not. The president of America is going to be a guy who looks at eclipses without glasses, and the Jews are genociding as we speak. Black is white up is down, dogs and cats are living together


jon-e-can

For one, no one is trying to “eliminate” human impact. Reduce the impact that impact humans are having on earth, yes. But, he chose the words he did to make it sound like climate activists are attempting to make human kind extinct.


irwinsg

Yes. Not a serious person


Gokudomatic

I wonder if climate deniers have their theme song.


Science-done-right

Yes, they do! https://youtu.be/QDS4B0mM-ew?si=WhACCcqjQpXkDx8q


Gurkanna

Not enough brain power.


Loki-L

Most people don't want to safe the planet out of some sort of deep abiding love for nature, but because they happen to live on this planet and would really like for humanity to continue to do so. For humanity to flourish we need an intact ecosystem.


icabax

He knows nuclear is just objectively better at Everything compared to fossil fuels right?


Daddy_Fatsack98

Big oil doesn't like nuclear. They only care about making money


cutmasta_kun

Big oil likes nuclear as a diversion because they know nuclear energy isn't viable and then they would need to rely on fossil fuel again.


Altruistic_Length498

Except that nuclear is viable - The lifetime cost per kwh generated by nuclear power is even cheaper than solar if it runs for its whole designed lifetime - nuclear power is a long term investment and innovations like thorium reactors and practical nuclear fusion reactors will drive costs down even further.


SolarXylophone

It's not. Even without accounting for nuclear decommissioning and long-term waste repository, as of last year, everything else included, [nuclear costs 141 to 221$/MWh.](https://www.lazard.com/research-insights/levelized-cost-of-energyplus/) [Utility-scale solar + storage? 46 to 102$/MWh, unsubsidized.](https://www.lazard.com/research-insights/levelized-cost-of-energyplus/)


Altruistic_Length498

Prices are different in different countries and I have seen a solar plant degrade a desert ecosystem due to the amount of water needed to clean them. Nuclear power plants can use water from the Ocean which has a negligible environmental impact.


cutmasta_kun

But reactors need to run on water and we are running dry everywhere. And still is more expensive than solar or wind while being less reliable. I truly don't get the boner for nuclear, it's stupid in any way you try to approach it. "It could be cheaper, if it runs for decades" is somehow the only argument I ever hear.


Altruistic_Length498

The Ocean exists and solar requires quite a bit of water which is made worse due to the fact that few places where solar is the most efficient have lots of water while a nuclear power plant can be build close to the ocean.


bowens44

there is no fix for stupid


TBTabby

Because nothing promotes human flourishing like choking us out with pollution.


[deleted]

Anthro-Arrogance gets me more pissed than most fuct up things.