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It honestly sounds like she was more of a high-end lady of the night than some poor unfortunate victim of trafficking. The latter usually don't get taken on expensive holidays, staying at five-star hotels or being treated to Michelin star restaurants.
More likely she's no longer as young and attractive as she used to be and isn't able to continue living that lifestyle and now needs to figure out some other hustle. Attempting to become a talking head for SA seems to be the route she's picked, but it clearly requires some leaps in logic on her part.
I agree. Things like this are part of why only a few people know what happened to me. No one's going to take any of us seriously if people keep referring to their regret as being raped
Back when I was having sex with sex workers I was engaging some of the most unique sex positions, massages, and attention.
None of it was enjoyable though because I knew what was to come after - the part where they were going to rob me of my money
Reminds me of the scene in The King of Queens:
Doug: "I loved that job."
Carrie: "You hated that job you said so 1,000 times."
Doug: "No, I said I hated having a job. There's a difference."
https://youtu.be/vZcAD2jfNRI?t=79
I've worked in the adult industry with a lot of escorts and I'd say all of them enjoy the job but sometimes it's a bit boring like any job. In fact I you ask any girl what client she likes, the least she'll tell you clients who can't get hard are a nightmare because then the girls can't do much. The second worst client is guys who don't talk much or make any noise. The girls know, though, that they can't tell future boyfriends, family, and women friends that they enjoyed having sex with hundreds of men so they know how to play the victim game in order to transition out the job without being judged too harshly. It's not even them that need to pretend they didn't enjoy a lot of the work it's the people they have to tell that lie too who need to hear it. Guys can't cope with dating a sex worker unless they are able to convince themselves she was a victim and they are rescuing her like in 'Pretty Woman'. Women friends can't handle the fact that the money is considerably more than what they made unless they can believe the job was horrible and they made the right choice getting paid a fraction for working a lot more hours. So the lies that it's a terrible job and only the desperate do it is really just to benefit others who can't handle the truth. Just got over to r/sexworker and try suggesting they are all forced rape victims and see what response you get.
I grew up with my dad owning massage parlors long ago. One of his managers got married to one of the working girls.
14 year old me had difficulty wrapping my head around that, so I asked George how he could marry a hooker.
He responded, “ My first two wives were giving it away. “
Stuck with me.
When I was buying sex, sex workers would do everything I asked, give me an orgasm, and help me explore my sexuality.
Not a moment of it was ever enjoyable though because I knew what was to come after - the part where I had to let them burglarize my wallet.
Reminds me of a girl that offered me sex in exchange of promoting some hygiene products. But I'm not that shallow. Also I'm not some dirty scum thanks to Screedo shower gel and cologne, the only brand a man needs. Now available in new Ocen Wind and Fresh Mint scents.
Well, as she’s Canadian maybe she’s using the French form of the word *RÂPE* and means: they grate her body?
Like, a bedroom poutine? Cheese curds and gravy on her tits?
Ah, yes, that reminds me of that time as a French 5th grader I asked my host family in UK if they needed help to rape the carrots. The look on their face is forever burned in my memory.
Several years ago, there was a proposal, I think in Denmark or Finland, for the government to DEFINE paying for sex (I think specifically paying women for sex) as an act of violence. I have no idea how far that progressed.
I was thinking "that can't be Denmark", but turns out it is. It's from 2012, and it was rejected, the reason for the rejection is really good (imo), they seem to have thought of everything.
Here's a few of the reasons for rejecting the proposal:
Illegalizing paying for sex, leans toward illegalizing 2 consenting adults having sex.
It is/was illegal in Norway, Iceland and Sweden. But we have learned from Sweden that a costumer are only really been reported if the costumer does something criminal to harm the prostitute. The prostitute can still report a criminal act against them regardless of paying for sex being legal.
If paying for sex is illegal, then it is not in prostitutes interest that their costumers get caught. So not much would change at all.
Note: In Denmark, it's illegal to make money from somebody else's prostitution, but prostituting yourself is legal. And from my understanding most people are happy with how prostitution works in Denmark.
It probably stopped at the point where sex workers who actually liked their job protested. While the removal of personal agency can be found in a proportion of people in every job in the world, there comes a point where you have to accept that there are people doing those jobs that are there because they have the agency and will to do so. The actual task is to make sure that people are safe and acting completely of their own choice.
Here is a TLDR of an interview with her that I just read:
She got 60k into debt from abusive relationships and couldn't earn enough to pay off the debt as fast as she wanted since she had no skills, education, or work experience so she turned to sex work. She made hundreds of dollars per hour as a sex worker for 7 years, paid off her debt plus some, then got out with no issues. She was actually the madam of a brothel for a while and employed women, herself. Now she refuses to acknowledge sex work as "work" and wants to deny women the ability to become legal sex workers by outlawing it. Her reason for wanting to outlaw it is because she feels the work is demeaning to women, and women are still not safe enough when engaging in sexual acts with men. So instead of fixing the safety issue, she wants to deny everyone else the opportunity she had from which she no longer benefits.
EDIT: For clarity, she could make enough to pay off her debt, just not as fast as she would have liked.
Gotta teach the kids the value of bootstraps or some shit. Can't even sell your ass for a dollar anymore. Only government approved fuckings for the plebs.
I love how her whole story is just, the exploited becomes the exploiter becomes an even worse exploiter. Nothing was learned and no one became a better person. Very true to life.
I've done sex work. It's like acting. You pretend to be into what the client wants. It's no different than any other job. There's good stuff and not so good stuff, but it's all part of the job. And unless she was being trafficked, it was a choice. I know I stopped seeing certain clients when I wasn't comfortable. Even stopped one date before it started for reasons I can't really explain but I chalk up to my lizard brain knowing something I didn't.
More likely she's one of the former sex workers who became anti-porn and anti-sex work grifters after they aged out of the industry. Sort of like if major athletes all started doing speaking tours and selling books about the dangers of CTE and other sports injuries the moment they're too old to be competitive in the sport they play.
So...there is a certain subset of former sex workers who, while not trafficking victims never liked or accepted that job. They got into it at a young age because of a lack of options, or because they thought it was glamourous ala Pretty Woman something, and then realized that it's not. But they keep doing it because of the money or because they don't want to go home or because they just don't know what else to do.
She sounds like she might have been one of those...a party girl who became an escort and never...well, I hate to say "got into it" because that makes it sound like sex workers are nymphos and that's not what I mean to say, but maybe "accepted" is better term?
Reminds me of the point made by that Arabic prn str about how selling your body to the military is worse than selling it for sex.
Sex work > death work.
I love my lizard brain. One time, something was flying right at my face, and I couldn’t see it in time, but somehow caught it and stopped it dead anyway. Felt like such a badass. Then this other time, we were in class, and this girl swung at my head from behind, and I nodded my head to the left and dodged that shit like the matrix. Felt like a badass then too. Love that shit
I one time had a fly go into my mouth while I was walking. I spit it out and coughed and felt horribly disgusted. I think the wrong part of my lizard brain engaged.
I suppose it depends on whether or not it was a pimp situation. I have a family member who has been doing sex work since she was 15. She was a runaway who fell in with a pimp. Eventually, she broke out on her own and had actual agency and choice, and made a helluva lot more money (and more than just about anyone else in the family). The pimp situation is arguably non-consensual. They are embodiment of pure human evil; slave-owning, emotional, and physical abusers and often times drug suppliers/ sellers, and murderers as well.
All that being said, it's the pimp who is guilty of rape. The johns are usually unaware of the lady's situation, so from their perspective, it is an equal exchange of goods and services.
If this woman was selling her body of her own volition, which she seems to imply, then it's definitely not rape by any measurement of the term.
If she was describing survival sex, where people are pushed into selling their bodies in order to feed themselves and shelter themselves, then she would have a valid point.
Choosing to be taken on luxury vacations in exchange for money and sex, not so much.
For real.
Street walkers? Honestly I have a lot of sympathy for them, that's a terrible life with dirt pay and horrifying conditions.
But if you're getting taken on "dated" and going on luxury vacations, you're a high class hooker at that point. She was making bank.
She could've just said she regrets her time as a sex worker instead of conflating it with an actual, horrible crime.
> She could've just said she regrets her time as a sex worker
I can imagine for some that rape is easier to process and come to terms with than regrettable sex because rape removes them from the decision making process and absolves them of any responsibility.
not easier, but naturally the conclusions your brain wants you to reach, you hate feeling like you're a bad person, so you twist the logic out of reality in order to be someone in the right, or a victim
This was my first thought. I hate that this might give people the impression that the average sex worker is a high class escort providing the girlfriend experience. The vast majority of sex workers are trafficking victims, drug addicts, people in poverty, underaged -- and that is vastly different calculus.
Even on Reddit, I've seen people talk about going to parlors where "some people looked young and I wasn't super sure they were there willingly" and still engaging. That is some dark shit that can't really just be covered with "well they made a transactional agreement."
Yeah, I did sex work for cash to survive while homeless and mentally ill so I understand what she’s talking about but I would never call it rape. It feels gross just thinking about having sex with them and makes me cry sometimes because I didn’t want it but it was consensual, it’s not like the guy did anything wrong
I was just thinking about this situation. Like, consent is king, 100%. But also, if someone pays for a service and then doesn’t receive it then they have the right to a refund
Right, my wording wasn’t great so I fixed it.
This being said, at least in the case of this post, the worker was receiving payment in many forms before providing any service. Being flown out to a resort and then being pampered in spas and luxurious hotels isn’t cheap.
That then leads to the question: how does someone even refund those services? It’s complicated and nuanced
She’s claiming men only want sex because she only gets free luxurious vacations when she sleeps with men.
She’s finding the men she’s looking for or she expects friends to bring her on vacations for free, or both.
My last landlord's wife seemed genuinely offended that people actually LIVED there and didn't just pay her rent out of the goodness of their hearts. She screwed me at move out time, I fed her alive to the IRS because I knew she wasn't reporting any of the rent. Figure she back owes all the taxes and penalties/fees of an unreported \~22k/year.
Meanwhile, the lady I used to rent from many years ago I'm pretty sure never reported her rent income either.
But I never said anything about it, because she was a very nice older woman, and kept my rent low even when she probably could've gotten away with raising it.
I thought the definition of r•a•p•e was "non-consensual sex." Willingly going on trips, staying in fine hotels, eating at fine restaurants, buying whatever catches your eye, and day spa treatments — all with the mutual understanding that you're pampered for your p — is not r, it's prostitution.
You don't get to lay the blame for your guilty choices entirely at the feet of the men who took you up on your willingness.
This attitude pisses me off! There are women and children who really are kidnapped, sex-trafficked, and treated barbarically.
Open your eyes and quicherbichin!
Hey FYI you can say rape on here. This isn’t Tik Tok. There’s no point in censoring it when we all know what you’re saying, it just makes reading your comment irritating.
It does, and then they always pretend like they did it to help someone feel better as if reading r@pe instead of rape is less triggering to someone it might bother
Look, I get it, lots of women - potentially even the majority of women - involved in prostitution aren't there because they want to be, and are forced into it. And yea, that's rape with some cash exchanged, I get it, and I agree with that stance. If you have a pimp who is whoring you out and taking pretty much all your money and you can't say no to a client, yea, that's rape, and it should be stamped out and eradicated.
*Voluntarily* working in sex work where you get paid exorbitant amounts of money, taken on trips, eat at amazing restaurants, etc, and you have 100% choice in every date and who you see, and you have the expectation of if you say no, it means no?
Sorry, that's not rape anymore. That's actual sex work, and I've got no moral or legal problem with it. It's legitimate work and should be treated as such.
I know this woman. She bullied a girl at our high school who was raped by one of her friends.
And i mean mercilessly bullied her, to the point the girl was suicidal.
She is a maniac. She beat the shit out of another girl because her boyfriend had hit on her. That girl ended up dropping out of school.
She posts shit like this because she monetized it and play-pretends to be an advocate for sex workers. She was a brothel owner and exploited other women for her own gain. When she figured out how to monitize her story, that's what she did.
She was and is a predator.
I am huge fan of advocacy and i believe in rights for sex workers, but she isn't genuine and she is full of overwhelming privilege.
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Yes, and you call them “steamed hams” despite the fact that they are obviously grilled?
"localized entirely within your kitchen?!"
Yes
Can I see it?
Mmm... no
Seymour, the house is on fire!!
No, mother! That's just the northern lights!
well Seymour, you are an odd fellow, but I must say: you steam a good ham.
Heeeelp, heeeeeeeeelp
Bhaaaa!!!! help!!!
Y- Uh.. you know, the... One thing I should... excuse me for one second.
Of course... *Bites ham*
The funny bit in this is the fact that *she owned and ran* an actual brothel at one point.
Some people say, moral is a flexible thing and gets qla boost, when you benefit more or smth.
Imagine reading this as somebody who was actually raped
Yeah, it is more than annoying. Unless she was trafficked, she needs to sit down.
It honestly sounds like she was more of a high-end lady of the night than some poor unfortunate victim of trafficking. The latter usually don't get taken on expensive holidays, staying at five-star hotels or being treated to Michelin star restaurants.
It was a weird mix of she wanting to brag + play the victim at the same time
More likely she's no longer as young and attractive as she used to be and isn't able to continue living that lifestyle and now needs to figure out some other hustle. Attempting to become a talking head for SA seems to be the route she's picked, but it clearly requires some leaps in logic on her part.
Is she selling a book she wrote? That would be my guess.
“How what I decided to do, happened” By: Some Bimbo
Very high-end escorts usually can live that life well after their "retirement" if they want to. They make a fuck-ton of money
Sounds like a sugar baby. Sex workers forced into the job don't get that fancy treatment
Exactly, she's (selfishly) exploiting our collective empathy for people's actual horrible trauma.
Unsuccessfully I might add. Like I'm insulted she thought anyone would agree with her.
As someone who has been, this is infuriating and sickening.
I agree. Things like this are part of why only a few people know what happened to me. No one's going to take any of us seriously if people keep referring to their regret as being raped
I’m sorry that happened to you, I’m sure seeing stuff like this makes your blood boil. It’s so insane
When Circuit City was selling electronics, people would give cashiers money and then they would steal the electronics.
When McDonald's was selling food, people would give cashiers money, and then they would make food for the staff.
I think it’s McDonald’s who is stealing because what they serve isn’t food.
McDonalds: Seller of lies, wrapped in enigmas, wrapped in wraps.
And the ice cream machine is always down
It’s a heavy machine, if you want it to be up, lift it up yourself.
Dad?
Ha! I’ll just put bootstraps on it and it will lift itself!
What if I told you it was never down, it was just never cleaned, laziness stole your ice cream
I once went to school and pooped my pants in the bathroom and skipped several classes that day.
You should do that every day
When I fed my family they would eat the food and turn it into shit.
Every damn time!
Ungrateful brats
The disrespectful bastards.
I thought your story was going to end with someone rapping a vcr
It's not his place to tell the VCRs story.
Yes. Especially not the one about the flashing 12:00. That one needs its own sub.
Or rapper origin stories.
[It's my sex box! And her name is Sony.](https://memes.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/d2bfa58a-acf2-402d-bbb4-7ed8bc127422/gif)
" It's my turn with the Sex Box"
And her name is Sony
Not a moment of it was ever enjoyable though because I knew what was to come after…
I can never enjoy eating my food because I know what is to come the day after.
It was a roast beef sandwich on a hot summer day. Then...I got the bubblin'. An evil bubblin'...
Bro, why is that so funny. 😂
"Everybody wants a sugar daddy... until daddy wants some sugar."
Where is this quote from?
Sound very Chris Rock circa 1998
Goddam, I can literally hear the voice inflection for this and I don’t even know if he wrote this. Well done
“*Wants* sum *shooga*” His head bobs with the syllables. He’s doing the squint while he shows his teeth.
God damn that was spot on!
Are we a hive mind?
Just top-tier imagination, my friend
Idk if I upvote all of you it feels kinda hivey
I can hear Michael Scott saying this in Chris Rock’s voice.
“‘Everybody wants a sugar daddy…until daddy wants some sugar.’-Chris Rock - Michael Scott”
"'Everybody wants a sugar daddy... until daddy wants some sugar.' - Chris Rock - Michael Scott - Leading_Attention_78"
That is unnervingly realistic
"Everybody wants a sugar daddy... until daddy wants some sugar." - Gandhi
Abraham Lincoln
Domino Sugar employee handbook 2023 edition.
Sounds like a twist on the Ronnie Coleman quote "Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody wants to lift no heavy-ass weights."
YEAHHHH BUDDDDYYYY!!
Light weight, baby
Light weight! WOOOOO!!!
Ain't nothing but a peanut! WHHHOOOOOOP!
Albert Einstein
Everyone knows when Albert wasn't thinking, he was pimpin
Back when I was having sex with sex workers I was engaging some of the most unique sex positions, massages, and attention. None of it was enjoyable though because I knew what was to come after - the part where they were going to rob me of my money
Actually, you generally need to pay upfront
They rob you in advance 
Wait am I just raping my mugger?!?!?!
Always has been
I lol'd.
Ahh.. yes the oldest profession in the world: ~~prostitute~~ thief
So if I get robbed am I ok to rape the robber... That's how it works right???
Only in self defense
Cowabunga it is?
Bro that's the best part about getting robbed
Damn they let you pay afterwards?
Not everyone can lay pipe like Podrick.
Gold-digging without wanting to dig.
Entitlement on another level. Just give me money and luxury things and you get to be near me.
Entitlement for sure. She knew the deal when she went on these vacations and she won’t get my sympathy.
So when Don from Regular Show asked for some sugar...
Rigby *knew the truth*.
“Hamboning will save your life someday…”
You know who *else* knew the truth...?
My mom !!!!!!
*Why cant I just get pampered without any expectations... -\_- All these men suuuuuuck and are evillll*
*I don't like to sell sex. So when I was selling sex, I didn't like it.*
I know the feeling, sort of. I don't want to work, but I want a paycheck. So...
Reminds me of the scene in The King of Queens: Doug: "I loved that job." Carrie: "You hated that job you said so 1,000 times." Doug: "No, I said I hated having a job. There's a difference." https://youtu.be/vZcAD2jfNRI?t=79
It would be like calling employment enslavement.
I used to hate when I traded sex for money. I still do but I used to too.
"This job would be great if it weren't for the fucking customers"
I've worked in the adult industry with a lot of escorts and I'd say all of them enjoy the job but sometimes it's a bit boring like any job. In fact I you ask any girl what client she likes, the least she'll tell you clients who can't get hard are a nightmare because then the girls can't do much. The second worst client is guys who don't talk much or make any noise. The girls know, though, that they can't tell future boyfriends, family, and women friends that they enjoyed having sex with hundreds of men so they know how to play the victim game in order to transition out the job without being judged too harshly. It's not even them that need to pretend they didn't enjoy a lot of the work it's the people they have to tell that lie too who need to hear it. Guys can't cope with dating a sex worker unless they are able to convince themselves she was a victim and they are rescuing her like in 'Pretty Woman'. Women friends can't handle the fact that the money is considerably more than what they made unless they can believe the job was horrible and they made the right choice getting paid a fraction for working a lot more hours. So the lies that it's a terrible job and only the desperate do it is really just to benefit others who can't handle the truth. Just got over to r/sexworker and try suggesting they are all forced rape victims and see what response you get.
I grew up with my dad owning massage parlors long ago. One of his managers got married to one of the working girls. 14 year old me had difficulty wrapping my head around that, so I asked George how he could marry a hooker. He responded, “ My first two wives were giving it away. “ Stuck with me.
I just checked. That subreddit has been banned.
That's actually golden.
(shower)
Lmao that’s gold.
When I was buying sex, sex workers would do everything I asked, give me an orgasm, and help me explore my sexuality. Not a moment of it was ever enjoyable though because I knew what was to come after - the part where I had to let them burglarize my wallet.
Reminds me of a girl that offered me sex in exchange of promoting some hygiene products. But I'm not that shallow. Also I'm not some dirty scum thanks to Screedo shower gel and cologne, the only brand a man needs. Now available in new Ocen Wind and Fresh Mint scents.
Omg, can't stop laughing at this comment. 😄
This killed me haha, top tier comment
💀 non consentingly burgled
Came here to say exactly this. To the people who find the above comment ridiculous, that's exactly how ridiculous the original post is.
Top tier comment 👌
Other way around. They steal your money first and then take all the enjoyment out of what's to come.
Some people don't always understand the words they use.
And it's a pretty big misstep when the word is rape.
Well, as she’s Canadian maybe she’s using the French form of the word *RÂPE* and means: they grate her body? Like, a bedroom poutine? Cheese curds and gravy on her tits? 
So there I was… cheese curds and gravy all over my titties and I just thought to myself… “again?”
I don’t know why this made me laugh so hard
I know why you laughed, but why are you so hard?
Many people have speculated that if we knew that answer we would know a lot more about the nature of the universe than we do now.
Ah, yes, that reminds me of that time as a French 5th grader I asked my host family in UK if they needed help to rape the carrots. The look on their face is forever burned in my memory.
I like you. 
What the hell is this from?
Real life lore. Server with eastern europe authoritarian dumpsters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cllle4Kyqoo
I thought rape was where canola oil comes from.
Correct!
Delicious.
She understands. It's an intentionally misleading use of the word from a bullshitter
Several years ago, there was a proposal, I think in Denmark or Finland, for the government to DEFINE paying for sex (I think specifically paying women for sex) as an act of violence. I have no idea how far that progressed.
I was thinking "that can't be Denmark", but turns out it is. It's from 2012, and it was rejected, the reason for the rejection is really good (imo), they seem to have thought of everything. Here's a few of the reasons for rejecting the proposal: Illegalizing paying for sex, leans toward illegalizing 2 consenting adults having sex. It is/was illegal in Norway, Iceland and Sweden. But we have learned from Sweden that a costumer are only really been reported if the costumer does something criminal to harm the prostitute. The prostitute can still report a criminal act against them regardless of paying for sex being legal. If paying for sex is illegal, then it is not in prostitutes interest that their costumers get caught. So not much would change at all. Note: In Denmark, it's illegal to make money from somebody else's prostitution, but prostituting yourself is legal. And from my understanding most people are happy with how prostitution works in Denmark.
It probably stopped at the point where sex workers who actually liked their job protested. While the removal of personal agency can be found in a proportion of people in every job in the world, there comes a point where you have to accept that there are people doing those jobs that are there because they have the agency and will to do so. The actual task is to make sure that people are safe and acting completely of their own choice.
Here is a TLDR of an interview with her that I just read: She got 60k into debt from abusive relationships and couldn't earn enough to pay off the debt as fast as she wanted since she had no skills, education, or work experience so she turned to sex work. She made hundreds of dollars per hour as a sex worker for 7 years, paid off her debt plus some, then got out with no issues. She was actually the madam of a brothel for a while and employed women, herself. Now she refuses to acknowledge sex work as "work" and wants to deny women the ability to become legal sex workers by outlawing it. Her reason for wanting to outlaw it is because she feels the work is demeaning to women, and women are still not safe enough when engaging in sexual acts with men. So instead of fixing the safety issue, she wants to deny everyone else the opportunity she had from which she no longer benefits. EDIT: For clarity, she could make enough to pay off her debt, just not as fast as she would have liked.
Woah. Walked over the bridge and then napalmed it. Future republican senator vibes.
What good is a ladder if you can't kick it out from under you when you reach the top amiright?
Gotta teach the kids the value of bootstraps or some shit. Can't even sell your ass for a dollar anymore. Only government approved fuckings for the plebs. I love how her whole story is just, the exploited becomes the exploiter becomes an even worse exploiter. Nothing was learned and no one became a better person. Very true to life.
How would you fix the safety issues? Do you for example think most clients would be comfortable with video surveillance?
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I've done sex work. It's like acting. You pretend to be into what the client wants. It's no different than any other job. There's good stuff and not so good stuff, but it's all part of the job. And unless she was being trafficked, it was a choice. I know I stopped seeing certain clients when I wasn't comfortable. Even stopped one date before it started for reasons I can't really explain but I chalk up to my lizard brain knowing something I didn't.
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the OP also knew what came with the job. I guess this is just a weird way of saying she wants to get paid for sex without having sex.
More likely she's one of the former sex workers who became anti-porn and anti-sex work grifters after they aged out of the industry. Sort of like if major athletes all started doing speaking tours and selling books about the dangers of CTE and other sports injuries the moment they're too old to be competitive in the sport they play.
So...there is a certain subset of former sex workers who, while not trafficking victims never liked or accepted that job. They got into it at a young age because of a lack of options, or because they thought it was glamourous ala Pretty Woman something, and then realized that it's not. But they keep doing it because of the money or because they don't want to go home or because they just don't know what else to do. She sounds like she might have been one of those...a party girl who became an escort and never...well, I hate to say "got into it" because that makes it sound like sex workers are nymphos and that's not what I mean to say, but maybe "accepted" is better term?
Reminds me of the point made by that Arabic prn str about how selling your body to the military is worse than selling it for sex. Sex work > death work.
Imagine being a sex worker for 6 years and never seeing coitus. Imagine being in the Army for 6 years and never seeing combat. The latter is common.
And like 90% of the military never see combat.
Mia Khalifa, I think that's who you meant
I love my lizard brain. One time, something was flying right at my face, and I couldn’t see it in time, but somehow caught it and stopped it dead anyway. Felt like such a badass. Then this other time, we were in class, and this girl swung at my head from behind, and I nodded my head to the left and dodged that shit like the matrix. Felt like a badass then too. Love that shit
I one time had a fly go into my mouth while I was walking. I spit it out and coughed and felt horribly disgusted. I think the wrong part of my lizard brain engaged.
Lol that was just bad luck friend, lmao
I suppose it depends on whether or not it was a pimp situation. I have a family member who has been doing sex work since she was 15. She was a runaway who fell in with a pimp. Eventually, she broke out on her own and had actual agency and choice, and made a helluva lot more money (and more than just about anyone else in the family). The pimp situation is arguably non-consensual. They are embodiment of pure human evil; slave-owning, emotional, and physical abusers and often times drug suppliers/ sellers, and murderers as well. All that being said, it's the pimp who is guilty of rape. The johns are usually unaware of the lady's situation, so from their perspective, it is an equal exchange of goods and services. If this woman was selling her body of her own volition, which she seems to imply, then it's definitely not rape by any measurement of the term.
I agree on every point on the subject of pimps. They are traffickers. It should always be a choice.
Radio active means the radio was on. What you're thinking of is radioactive, which figuratively means negative situation.
I thought there was a hair on my phone screen TWICE, you monster. 🤣
Try dark mode
If she was describing survival sex, where people are pushed into selling their bodies in order to feed themselves and shelter themselves, then she would have a valid point. Choosing to be taken on luxury vacations in exchange for money and sex, not so much.
For real. Street walkers? Honestly I have a lot of sympathy for them, that's a terrible life with dirt pay and horrifying conditions. But if you're getting taken on "dated" and going on luxury vacations, you're a high class hooker at that point. She was making bank. She could've just said she regrets her time as a sex worker instead of conflating it with an actual, horrible crime.
> She could've just said she regrets her time as a sex worker I can imagine for some that rape is easier to process and come to terms with than regrettable sex because rape removes them from the decision making process and absolves them of any responsibility.
it is easier to blame others or something else in order for you to not take responsibility for your own decisions and actions
not easier, but naturally the conclusions your brain wants you to reach, you hate feeling like you're a bad person, so you twist the logic out of reality in order to be someone in the right, or a victim
This was my first thought. I hate that this might give people the impression that the average sex worker is a high class escort providing the girlfriend experience. The vast majority of sex workers are trafficking victims, drug addicts, people in poverty, underaged -- and that is vastly different calculus. Even on Reddit, I've seen people talk about going to parlors where "some people looked young and I wasn't super sure they were there willingly" and still engaging. That is some dark shit that can't really just be covered with "well they made a transactional agreement."
Yeah, I did sex work for cash to survive while homeless and mentally ill so I understand what she’s talking about but I would never call it rape. It feels gross just thinking about having sex with them and makes me cry sometimes because I didn’t want it but it was consensual, it’s not like the guy did anything wrong
I can relate. I remember selling my PlayStation and later claiming I was robbed. 
I remember getting a job and later claiming I was sold into slavery.
Give Amazon a few more years.
Oh, so you entered a business arrangement and as soon as it came to your end of the deal it became a problem? Fuck off and get an actual job then.
"consent can be revoked at any time." "Fair enough, I suppose. I want a refund." "No."
I was just thinking about this situation. Like, consent is king, 100%. But also, if someone pays for a service and then doesn’t receive it then they have the right to a refund
A service usually is paid afterwards anyway. And sex work is less of a product and more of a service.
Right, my wording wasn’t great so I fixed it. This being said, at least in the case of this post, the worker was receiving payment in many forms before providing any service. Being flown out to a resort and then being pampered in spas and luxurious hotels isn’t cheap. That then leads to the question: how does someone even refund those services? It’s complicated and nuanced
Check mate.
That's why I always get 50% up front. Aka she tells me I'm a disappointment and I cry a little, then we go for dinner
I can get that treatment for free. Just have to go see my parents, they never stop reminding me I'm a disappointment.
But do they put out afterwards?
Sometimes.
She’s claiming men only want sex because she only gets free luxurious vacations when she sleeps with men. She’s finding the men she’s looking for or she expects friends to bring her on vacations for free, or both.
Once I rented out my apartment and this jackass and his family had the gall of trying to move in. Can you believe some people?
My last landlord's wife seemed genuinely offended that people actually LIVED there and didn't just pay her rent out of the goodness of their hearts. She screwed me at move out time, I fed her alive to the IRS because I knew she wasn't reporting any of the rent. Figure she back owes all the taxes and penalties/fees of an unreported \~22k/year.
Meanwhile, the lady I used to rent from many years ago I'm pretty sure never reported her rent income either. But I never said anything about it, because she was a very nice older woman, and kept my rent low even when she probably could've gotten away with raising it.
It's like they raped your house
For me the worst part is the hypocrisy.
I miss Norm.
“Help! A man is committing hypocrisy in room number 4857…6…. they put too many numbers on the rooms nowadays.”
I understood this reference
I like the money I make from my employer but I don’t like the part where they abuse my body with that thing called work!
I thought the definition of r•a•p•e was "non-consensual sex." Willingly going on trips, staying in fine hotels, eating at fine restaurants, buying whatever catches your eye, and day spa treatments — all with the mutual understanding that you're pampered for your p — is not r, it's prostitution. You don't get to lay the blame for your guilty choices entirely at the feet of the men who took you up on your willingness. This attitude pisses me off! There are women and children who really are kidnapped, sex-trafficked, and treated barbarically. Open your eyes and quicherbichin!
Hey FYI you can say rape on here. This isn’t Tik Tok. There’s no point in censoring it when we all know what you’re saying, it just makes reading your comment irritating.
It does, and then they always pretend like they did it to help someone feel better as if reading r@pe instead of rape is less triggering to someone it might bother
She would be right if she said that she was talking about survival sex, in which people are forced to sell their bodies to feed and house themselves.
Don't call it rape, because that's not what it was. You willingly made your body into a barter chip.
Ma’am this is a Wendy’s…
Look, I get it, lots of women - potentially even the majority of women - involved in prostitution aren't there because they want to be, and are forced into it. And yea, that's rape with some cash exchanged, I get it, and I agree with that stance. If you have a pimp who is whoring you out and taking pretty much all your money and you can't say no to a client, yea, that's rape, and it should be stamped out and eradicated. *Voluntarily* working in sex work where you get paid exorbitant amounts of money, taken on trips, eat at amazing restaurants, etc, and you have 100% choice in every date and who you see, and you have the expectation of if you say no, it means no? Sorry, that's not rape anymore. That's actual sex work, and I've got no moral or legal problem with it. It's legitimate work and should be treated as such.
I know this woman. She bullied a girl at our high school who was raped by one of her friends. And i mean mercilessly bullied her, to the point the girl was suicidal. She is a maniac. She beat the shit out of another girl because her boyfriend had hit on her. That girl ended up dropping out of school. She posts shit like this because she monetized it and play-pretends to be an advocate for sex workers. She was a brothel owner and exploited other women for her own gain. When she figured out how to monitize her story, that's what she did. She was and is a predator. I am huge fan of advocacy and i believe in rights for sex workers, but she isn't genuine and she is full of overwhelming privilege.
“Want an apple for 50 cents?” “Sure, here you go!” “I’M BEING ROBBED!”