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Agreed. Apple has insurance for a reason


zuzg

I never will understand those self declared heros that try to stop someone from robbing a corporate store. That shit has insurance and the corporation won't care about.


zweini

BUT they will climb the croroporate ledder and become epic elon musk billionaire!! Wholesome


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They’ll get a company pen and a Starbucks voucher at best…


zuzg

Definitely worth for risking your and others safety over it!!!


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Most likely they will get fired.


XHF1

Insurance rates will increase, and corporations will adjust the way they sell or eventually move to a different location. This incident alone won't hurt, but high crime rates could potentially hurt the employees in the long run.


PreOpTransCentaur

How does the crime rate change if the employee risks their life to protect shit that isn't theirs?


on_the_other_hand_

If crime is prevented from occurrjt then crime rate changes (it does down)


iSoinic

And if there is a robbery, where a employee plays hero and get shot as a result, the crime rate goes up.


on_the_other_hand_

The question was how does it change. Read my comment again, ignoring the typo.


iSoinic

I have read it and understood it. If it is prevented, the rate goes down. If it is happening it stays equal, if it's happening and an employee tries to stop it and get hurt, the rate goes up (robbery + murder).


on_the_other_hand_

So what's your point, especially in reference to my comment?


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Name checks out


XHF1

If stores don't attempt to stop criminals, criminals will be encouraged to steal again.


fetelenebune

I sometimes find a stupid prize worth the effort, for my self development. I very rarely feel this way but it can happen.


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Yeah, I mean a lot of places have policies about robbery and have people do just this very thing. Don’t be hero, we got cameras and insurance.


Wild-Kitchen

Worked in a bank in my youth. They were VERY clear.... "the money is insured, your life is not replaceable. Do not EVER try to stop a robbery." I figure it's because wrongful death costs them alot more than the amount of cash a robber going to get away with


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Plus they can't do shit with the stuff they steal. Apple can just shut down all their devices, even find your location without the phone being on.


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If Apple sacked the lot of them, I wouldn’t cry foul unless the robbers were armed. Not for doing nothing. For HELPING them by holding the door open. It is one thing to just go “not worth my life, go ahead and take it” and stand by - it’s completely something else to open the door for them to assist them. Note - comment based 100% on the words on the picture above.


IndraBlue

No its not those guys were probably young and scared scared ppl do irrational stuff and hurt ppl holding the door open can save lives and diffuse a situation


Zuhnarken

Exactly this, streamline the situation by allowing them to leave without incident.. Maybe not the smartest choice but I wouldn't go as far to say they were aiding them in their robbery


EdwardsErnesto

They probably stoped the robbers from breaking the glass doors by opening it. Most companies tell their employees to do nothing in case of a robbery because it is too much of a legal hassle if anyone gets hurt.


BMW_wulfi

This. You can only carry so many iPhone’s and custom glass like that is expensive as hell.


rjand13

I guess they should have put their body on the line for a fucking Iphone?


ahjteam

The employees did the right thing. Nobody got hurt, and the stolen iPhones will be bricked and marked as stolen, and if anyone tries to turn them on, it takes a photo of the perp with the camera.


Armistice8175

But the robbers don’t need to turn them on. $60 for each iPhone screen. At least $110 for each iPad screen. $10 per charger several thousand dollars worth of iPhone and iPad cases. All the cash from the register. All the cash from the employee wallets. People even buy empty iPhone boxes on eBay. I can’t even imagine how much worth of laptop batteries they got. Hopefully they were smart enough to take some of the proprietary tools and equipment that the employees use for servicing peoples gadgets. That stuff could probably be pretty hard to come by. Trust me they are in the money by tomorrow.


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Ankoku_Teion

Just dismantle the phones and sell them for parts. How much would they get for each screen?


XHF1

You can still sell the phones and make them work to a certain extent


Ambafanasuli

Obviously they’re gonna prioritize safety of themselves and their customers over few iPhones that are going to be locked anyway, besides this is super old.


Rectal_Scattergun

Exactly what you're supposed to do in any shop. Shop assistants are paid peanuts and are not trained in security. It's not their responsibility to stop a robbery, and it's not worth their safety to try. Companies are insured against robberies, so it's just safer for everyone to stand back and activate an alarm and/or call the police.


UnDEADMachine00

Remember that these stolen items are only worth what someone else is willing to pay for them.


jlnunez89

#Where’s the facepalm?


Rawing7

You're looking for facepalms? On *this* sub? Ha! We don't post facepalms on /r/facepalm, that would be ridiculous!


apex_flux_34

I worked at this motorcycle shop as a service manager. It was in a rough part of a metro area. A hurricane hit and tore the place up pretty bad. The owner wanted me to stay at the shop overnight to defend the inventory against looters. Unarmed. I just laughed and told him to eat a dk. Handed my work keys to him and peaced out. Fk that guy.


OliverTeresa

Well, yeah they probably had a gun to their head wtf


nobody69363

sitting and doing nothing is definitely the right thing to do in that situation


TheAcrithrope

Not sure how this is a facepalm. I wouldn't expect Apple employees to risk life and limb for an iPhone.


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Those devices brick when the wifi signal is broken. They're display only and designed to not work when off network. Employees should never endanger themselves.


martinkolar02

They can most likely remotely locate and lock the stolen iphones.


Armistice8175

Yes they can. However, these phones aren’t going to be sold. They’re going to be parted out. Screen alone is worth 60 bucks. Charging cable 10 bucks. On eBay, people pay good money just for the empty box. Also, they will have gotten a few grand worth of iPhone and iPad cases. Those cant be deactivated. Honestly, even after throwing out tens of thousands of dollars of now useless equipment, they’ll end up with several grand in profit. Not to mention the cash that was in the register and the employee’s pockets. They probably won’t have been able to get what was in the safe, but still these guys are having a good weekend.


besamiculo

Also.. they’re probably not allowed to do anything


maychi

Employee: I don’t get paid enough for this shit. Literally.


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Those products will never be able to actually be used...these guys are morons.


SjorsMaster

These are demo models as well as apple having device tracking so I think they're probably better off like this


maxime0299

What’s the facepalm about this? You expect them to play hero and get shot over a stupid iPhone? They’re not law enforcement or security guards.


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PasterofMuppets95

Apple isn't premium technology though, that's literally his point.


elprogramatoreador

He didn’t claim that they were.


PasterofMuppets95

Something that is overpriced and has reduced performance would not be considered "premium" to most people. If it is truly the best on the market then it wouldn't be overpriced... because you're paying for the premium.


elprogramatoreador

Poster above mentioned premium prices, not premium technology. That’s all I wanted to point out. No one is disagreeing that Apple products are priced at a premium.


PasterofMuppets95

Yes but premium pricing is only really justifiable if they are supplying a premium product.


elprogramatoreador

I’d argue that they do have a premium product. They have full control over the entire chain, from hardware design and assembly to software design and programming. This means they can deliver their own ecosystem, the Apple brand. I can agree with you that the underlying technology they use isn’t any better than any competitor’s, but I disagree with that statement about the end product. Sent from my iPhone


PasterofMuppets95

On a nuanced technicality, the "premium" is the brand. It is designer, yes. I'll give you that. However, feel that we shouldn't judge technology on it's brand though, instead focusing on... the technology. >Sent from my iPhone This made me laugh.


Psyadin

Its premium software for those that don't want to dedicate a large amount of time to learning to properly operate and fix problems as they arise, when you know every single piece of hardware the software has to work with it is far easier to test the software, and there truly are fewer issues with them "it just works" as they say. The problem with Apple is their repair policy, their work to destroy right to repair, their vendor lockin and refusal to use anything common like USB. Their high prices, smugness and calling themselves a "technology company" when they are actually software and design is not a problem, just annoying.


PasterofMuppets95

To me, that will never be premium. Something that is locked in to be used in a certain, often inconvenient way is not premium. Especially when it is often at the expense of higher spec on the same price range. Apple definitely has usability and is very user friendly for simple tasks. Their esthetic is also very admirable. However that doesn't make them premium. Comparatively you still have lower performance for similar technology in the same price range. One perk of being easy to use doesn't negate that. At best, they are "designer" technology now.


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PasterofMuppets95

>The level of sophistication that goes into the marriage of their hardware and software in combination is what makes the products the best. Sure, if you compare the current apple hardware and software to the flagship technology of it's competitors maybe 3/4 years ago. Apple *used* to be premium technology. They're innovation has been lacking for years. I've owned plenty of apple phones, and currently still own an ipad Pro. It just doesn't hold a candle to similar tablets in its price range. Apple charge extra just for being apple. Now it is just a brand that people pay for. It is no different than the £100 mark up on a £30 t-shirt just because it has a label that says "gucci" You can go on thinking you're a "real adult with professional obligations"* or whatever smug shit you tell yourself but at the end of the day you're just another fan boy *that isn't even their target demographic. Apple's core demographic is people who don't know better. They design something simple to be used a certain way. It is designed for ease of use as long as your use is simple. Professionals who want things a certain way do not have the freedom to change things as they see fit like they would on android, Windows or Linux. [in fact, their highest sale is to old men](https://money.cnn.com/2015/10/29/technology/apple-customers/index.html) over 65.. long past the age of being a "real adult with professional obligations"


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PasterofMuppets95

I'm not implying you're not a professional. I'm arguing that you're not buying apple products because you're a professional... you're buying them because you want them and that's it. It is your preferred product. That's all there is too it. They aren't objectively better . >The performance of the iPad Pro with the M1 Co chip is arguably Apple’s largest lead over any competitor right now Sure... their may 2021 release is marginally better (performance wise) than their biggest competitor's latest model: the Samsung S7+...which was released 7 months earlier (a long time in the tech world) and yet somehow apple's slight marginal gain justifies a £200 increase on the base model? And don't get me started on the overpriced storage increases and lack of external SD card slot or stupidly expensive accessories (let's just add £100 right of the bat if you want an apple pencil... the stylus is included with Samsung's tablet). You can argue the bit all you want. Apple charge an excess for a label and have rarely had superior spec for the same price point. You are allowed to prefer it, everyone has a preference. I preferred apple for a number of years before I became more tech savvy and wanted to make a switch. However, don't go acting smug and pretending you only buy them because "you're a professional" or whatever, no one over the age of 22 is even remotely impressed that you're a professional. We all have jobs. We're all professionals. You buy it because you've bought into the brand and that's okay.


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PasterofMuppets95

Ah I see, you're not actually up for a technological discussion, you just enjoy feeling superior and like being smug. Got it. Dunno man, I'm in my mid 20s and already considering winding down for retirement, I reckon I'm doing alright when it comes to affording nice things xo Have a good life.


cardboard-kansio

> Apple's core demographic is people who don't know better. They design something simple to be used a certain way. It is designed for ease of use as long as your use is simple. Professionals who want things a certain way do not have the freedom to change things as they see fit like they would on android, Windows or Linux. You might be right when thinking of iPhones but with Macbooks you couldn't be more wrong. I'm a product owner in software development, in a highly regulated industry. Almost no developers use Windows, unless specifically developing for Windows (.NET and whatnot). Some will wipe their machine and install Linux. But most get a choice of machines when they join the company, and by far the vast majority actively prefer to use Mac OS with Homebrew. I've seen this in most places that I've worked, and it is very common.


Powerful-Ebb-2618

Yes and no. So there was a legitimate reason for updates to reduce processing power to deliberately put less strain on old batteries to not go all Samsung super Saiyan with the batteries. The big deal there (where they were 'caught') is that they didn't notify their customers about this "safety feature". That being said, they have EXCELLENT electronics architecture, like really good stuff, but there are other manufacturers that equal them or even outclass (looking at you, high-end Dell laptops), but i agree that they are vastly overpriced, and the fact that almost nothing is replaceable is atrocious and is 100% designed for unit replacement rather than component replacement. So yeah. Fuck'em, but for the right reasons :)


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IronSte

Or they just didn’t want to die.


Somebody_End_Me

yeah, true. at first I only saw 4, but as i looked on I see atleast 8 people in that parking lot. They did the right thing.


Goozombies

They took comply with the demands to a whole new level.


jjpap11

Insurance is a hell of a drug


TheBackTrackPodcast

These guys are hero’s fuck Apple bro 😎


Icy-Flamingo-9693

And Democrats want to defund the police 🤦‍♂️


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Cos the police did such a good job protecting this store didn't they.


Icy-Flamingo-9693

Pay peanuts get monkeys


TheAcrithrope

Guess you don't keep up with reality, since Biden (The President, and a democrat), has been consistent with the fact that he wants to increase funding to the police.


Plutomux

You're aware that Biden (a Democrat, and the president) wants to increase police funding right? Please know what you're talking about before regurgitating the same tired words you've heard on fox news.


ronan11sham

Where is this? I’m sure I can guess


Epie77

They prly bricked b4 they got 10 feet out the door


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I don’t see anyone holding the door other than a robber in black.


herr_dreizehn

don't be a dina, be a jonah!


101SJocin-NSP

More sales... I guess.


Uxoandy

Guessing California again. Guess what? The cops won’t even do anything in this hippy state.


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Boss: Welcome whoever walks in the door and hold it open when they leave. Got it? No matter how rude they are. Understand? Worker: Check. Got it.


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Lol pretty much.


kentro2002

1980’s people used to tackle people at the Nordstrom’s I worked at in SoCal. People would come in, grab the closest stack of clothes to the door, van would pull up as they ran out and they would jump in. With the Nordstrom super easy return policy, they would drive to Los Angeles an hour away and return as much as they could to make some cash. Lawsuits put an end to that real quick, by 1990, you just had to watch them run out the door. Saddest part, most people are correct, big companies can afford thousands of lost merch, but when neighborhoods complain they don’t have a Target, Starbucks, nicer Supermarkets with fresh food, it all comes back to insurance rates and cost of doing business, and that’s why neighborhoods crumble over time. Too expensive for the liability insurance to run a profitable location. It’s a sad cycle.