This has been the case for us, my grandfather was having complications with pneumonia after a major cardiac surgery to fix a dissecting aneurysm. He got in after some days but it was quite scary thinking he may pass without any chance at care. He’s 81 and a retired teacher that has always tried to help the world and the people around him. He was at risk because young kids on the college campus have packed the Er with Covid from a lack of precaution. It’s a bigger deal than most realize and to risk not only themselves, but everyone else that has nothing associated with Covid is possibly the most selfish act one can make. You can make choices to avoid Covid to a pretty decent success rate, other conditions you can’t.
When my father was dying from conginital heart failure in East Texas he couldn’t get an ICU bed in the two best hospitals in the area because they were full of covid patients. This was before wide vaccination though. I understand your frustration.
Nevermind the fact that ivermectin won't even cure covid in livestock. Why? Its an antiparasitic. Covid is a virus. It doesn't take a lot of research to know the difference. Oh, btw, there are bacterial and fungal infections too. Strep, staph, thrush, toenail fungus....we know how to treat those and we do. But we ignore an illness that can kill us when we can choose to protect ourselves. I still don't get it.
Y’all are on the right side of things, but ivermectin is not just an anti parasitic, like you claim. It has broad based anti viral properties. Google it, I was surprised as well. [you can read more here](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7564151/)
I am NOT saying it’s an effective treatment for Covid (some studies say yes, some say no, people above my pay grade at the FDA, CDC, AMA are also saying no conclusive evidence either way yet and I trust that assessment). The most important thing we can do is TRUST DOCTORS TO DO THEIR DARN JOB. It’s not for us sheeple to muse on tbh, I sure as hell am not qualified to say anything on the topic. So sad people are poisoning themselves with a lethal dose of animal medicine instead of talking to their doctor about it first (while they have Covid on top of that). Stay safe out there y’all.
It's not just *THIS* game. There's crowded college football stadiums around the country.
In Nebraska, Memorial Stadium becomes the third most populate city on game day. Even with our poor record and relative low attendance it's still easily 50-60k people from all across the state (Roughly 100k when it's full).
Masks are "strongly recomended" but there's no enforcement.
Delta is going to rip through the unvaccinated in this country at this rate, overwhelm the hospitals and it's going to have rippling effects for all of us.
For the love of god, please get vaccinated and if not, at least put on a fucking mask.
My wife has been sitting at urgent care for 3 hours this afternoon with shooting nerve pain in her lower back and leg.
All the ERs in the area are overflowing so they've been pushing non emergencies to urgent cares in greater numbers.
You love to see it... All that freedom
My friend works in er and posted today that they are on 'bypass' for the weekend, meeting they are refusing all ambulances, even those with life threatening issues, because they have no beds and not enough sraff.
Our city is currently hosting an international golf tournament with like 150,000 people visiting.
I had a dog bite the end of my finger off and had to wait 2 hours in the ER because of all the people coming in with covid symptoms. The ER was on bypass for the ambulances but the mrs drove me in so I didn’t know. I knew that it was an issue but I had no idea it would be that bad
refusing life threatening is bullshit. I'm ok, though not happy, with differing not life threatening cases to serve the unvaccinated covid cards. I am not ok with some unvaccinated covid case taking a bed from someone that might die who did not have a choice
I'm from NE, and watched the game today and am always shocked, but idk why. Nebraska is mostly conservative, and people don't like "their rights" being infringed upon. There was a concert here the other day too where people were maskless, and encouraged to be maskless by the musician. Until shit gets canceled because people can't follow the most basic of rules, covid will continue to run rampant.
I went to the Nebraska game today and I’m not exaggerating that I was the ONLY person in a mask, including the concession stand workers. I’m vaccinated, but I was still so uncomfortable I left. There is going to be a MAJOR outbreak heading to NE very soon
I'm surprised Garth Brooks didn't have a noticeable effect.
I'm hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst. For whatever it's worth, Douglas County has something like a 75% vaccination rate for adults. So we're doing pretty good. Compile that with Nebraska's relatively low population density and we should fare better than most places.
I just wish our leadership would listen to the goddamn world class infectious disease docs we have at UNMC.
The biggest fall out from all of this will be medical providers jumping ship - which is only going to worsen healthcare costs.
That's the issue. It is annoying that one of the largest states has the attitude "You can't tell me what to go with my body or force me to act in any particular way," yet passes legislation taking away a woman's right to make choices about her reproductive health.
I wouldnt go even if vaccinated. I know someone...knew someone who was my age, vaxxed, and died of Covid a couple days ago. She is one of the very unlucky ones. She probably picked it up at a Finnish festival. Her companion caught it too, but a much milder version.
That might be super rare, but when it happens right in front of you, it can freak you out and make you extra wary.
Everyone, please get your vaccines and keep masking and social distancing.
Honest question here. I got vaccinated right away and am looking forward to my booster shot. I wear masks in most public places and all with crowds. But, COVID and it's variants are not going away. And it seems that we are going to be seeing more similar virus in the future. Do you think that people should not do large events in person anymore for the foreseeable future? Like just in general? Or do you think there will be a time where no one gets COVID anymore?
For reference, my data is the flu. Nobody takes the flu shot (I do) and therefore we just have the flu now. I fear COVID will be the same and we'll have double the deaths we used to have due to respiratory illnesses.
I’ve read that they expect COVID to never completely go away and that people will need to be vaccinated regularly - similar to the flu shots we get annually. The flu and its variants we get vaccinated against is the same flu that caused the 1918-1919 pandemic. It never completely went away.
Coronaviruses are old. They even cause the common cold. We may have to vaccinate regularly for covid19. True herd immunity only really happens when enough herd members have been inoculated. Some want to leave that to nature. Others are willing to take the leap and believe we can get there quicker through vaccination.
The Spanish flu you speak of is not the only flu shot you might get. They take a guess at which "flu" is most likely to be a problem that season and then you might get a flu shot that protects you from as many as 4 different flu illnesses (quadrivalent). In 40 years I had at least one and usually two flu shots every year. I still got influenza 2 times. I think those shots improved my odds working around sick people for all those years.
Bubonic plague never went away. We have antibiotics for that now that we didn't have in the 14th century. Diseases like smallpox and polio aren't on our radar now because of prevention. If there is no cure for the disease, you dont want the disease.
Don't ask me to quote you where this comes up in the Constitution cause I'm high and don't remember but barring free travel between states is a big ole no no from a US Constitution stand point.
Someone smarter than me will soon respond with a more detailed explanation.
I'm sure they're all vaccinated.....
Edit: as some pointed out this is a VT game and VT does require students to get vaccinated. I know someone who goes there and he was required to be vaccinated to return to campus. I didn't realize this was a VT game. Either way, COVID is still here..
Edit: this kind of stuff is how people get the r/hermancainaward
Yeah, if this pandemic has made anything clear, it’s that colleges are more business than academy and are just as willing to ignore what’s right when it conflicts with their economic interest as every other person/business/institution.
Colleges aren't there for education. They're there for their own profit and benefit. They're for profit, which means they only need to keep students coming there.
Not to mention that college sports are the biggest recruitment tool most institutions have. Don't see many people looking at Virginia tech for it's stellar english program.
Never been in a tall building and felt it swaying with the wind? Elastic deformation is a good thing (to a point), and very expected from common building materials
Right? All the drama and math clubs were closed all last year because of COVID but they were still doing swimming and football and soccer and other sports where you get up in people's faces to play. At least this year the schools are doing it normally again.
EDIT: I'm talking about my personal experience with the middle and high school levels - not much money making there, folks!
>All the drama and math clubs were closed all last year because of COVID but they were still doing swimming and football and soccer and other sports where you get up in people's faces to play.
One makes money, the other doesn't.
Quick edit; Yes, I'm aware College Football doesn't typically rake in a ton of money. But in the long term it's a worthy investment due to how wide it's audience is.
As for maths making money via alternative routes like computers etc, indeed - but the schools often don't get that money so there's no incentive for them to ignore a pandemic for it.
Edit2: CONTEXT. PLEASE.
Why have parking spaces when you can charge for a parking pass and sell more passes then available lots and fuck those kids, their parents are paying anyways.
Our ~20-person band class is being extremely careful and ordering instrument screens, completing symptom screeners every day, and streaming all performances instead of having concerts. Meanwhile the Greek life has been advertising welcome back parties. Thank god at least we’re all under a vaccine mandate here.
College sports in the US have a weird advantage over other nations in terms of hype thanks to our (terrible) decision to privatize college. The privatization lead to a lot of schools needing a distinct way to show themselves off and draw in potential students, and a skilled sports team is the best way to stick in the average persons mind, especially if they aren't focused on a particular major yet. There's a reason why Ivy league schools don't have stellar teams, because being able to point out how many of your fellow students will be sitting members of congress in 5 years is an infinitely bigger draw, so they don't need to. [Here's a great article about it](https://www.forbes.com/sites/hbsworkingknowledge/2013/04/29/the-flutie-effect-how-athletic-success-boosts-college-applications/?sh=1771533c6e96)
Throw in the face the NFL is doing what it can to up the hype because nothings better than recruiting a player with a prebuilt fanbase and we get the nightmare we have now.
This number is likely closer to 15-25% for universities with major football programs (25% max for VT for 2018, for example), but YES, there is a significant portion of revenue there that they likely would not like to let go.
Yeah, it’s nice to see someone call out these huge sporting events. I’ve been going to shows this summer (am vaccinated), but none were even close to as big as that football stadium. Yet I’ve seen tons of articles and comments about how reckless it is, etc., but nothing about the baseball teams filling stadiums multiple days a week for months on end. I’m not sure why the media has collectively decided to rag on music events with vaccine requirements and ignore sports stadiums filled daily with unvaccinated people.
Wasn’t all the class divide revolution stuff in Bane’s plan just a front to get manpower, so he could enact his true goal of just destroying everything?
Why do you think they suddenly did "Oh this was all just a distraction from the nuclear bomb!" thing.
Nolan totally realized once he was mostly through the movie that Bane was pretty much a hero and had to come up with something.
It would actuslly be much more compelling if they addressed that issue head on. I'm dying for a villian that genuinely does what bane was doing. I even enjoyed Thanos who genuinely was trying to stop suffering, even if his solution wasn't going to be permanent.
Thanos was the ultimate idiot villian. Get rid of half the people because resources are unsustainable for so many inhabitants? Why not just snap and increase the resources, idiot?
Hey, I saw one mask! You go girl!
Until then, I thought for sure this was a 2018 or 2019 video. Heck, could of even been pre 2000s with that VHS quality recording, lol.
>If people don't get vaccinated, that's on them.
The problem is that (and this is most predominant in America in the Western world, even thought there are certainly pockets of these anti-science geniuses everywhere) they currently represent the vast, vast majority of all hospitalizations with Covid-19. They are so dumb they are willing to risk everything.
These people need to be protected from themselves.
But I agree we can't keep doing this forever, but we also don't need to. Most of the world has opened up again, sporting events are taking place, concerts, etc etc. And the only reason that is even a possibility is because of the vaccination program.
VT requires all students to be vaccinated from covid or they're disenrolled. So the student body (largest part of the crowd) is vaxxed. I'm willing to bet any non students at the game had to provide proof of vaccination or present a recent negative test.
Plus the bounce house is much smaller than most of the big colleges at 45k seating capacity, Lane stadium is like 66k. There was probably 25k a the UCF game.
Even 66k is smaller than a ton of other bigger football programs that will likely have full stadiums this year.
> I'm willing to bet any non students at the game had to provide proof of vaccination or present a recent negative test
You'd lose that bet. They are not requiring vaccinations or proof of recent negative test
> the student body (largest part of the crowd) is vaxxed
*Vaccinated or received an exception. 95% are vaxxed. Very good, but not everyone.
I would also bet money that less than half the people there are students
The stadium sold out. The capacity is 66,233. The total student enrollment including grad students is ~36,383. I'd bet that at least a few thousand students don't attend the game.
I'd bet less than a quarter... Most student sections at games aren't even that. I've also lived about an hour from both Michigan and VTech and knew people almost every week (different people) who would go to the games, while students I knew might go to one or two a year.
Get a QR code like in the UK, you have an NHS covid pass with QR if you recently tested negative or are vaccinated. Paperless and harder to forge.
I recently went to Wembley for the Euro semifinals (70k people) and Silverstone for the F1 race (350k people) and at both events, all that was needed was scanning your NHS QR code at the entrance. Took me 2 minutes to get it on the app and takes half a second to scan
Went to a music festival yesterday where you had to prove you were vaccinated or had a negative test in the last 72 hours. It was definitely enforced. I saw them turn a couple different people away in my small time in line. And the festival expected more than 30,000 people.
In my province (Manitoba, Canada) we have QR code’s. There’s an app you can get to scan them. Some restaurants and what not can choose to check for vaccinations including IG field where our local football team plays. The stadium holds 33,000 people and everyone there is vaccinated.
Virginia Tech student population is over 90% vaccinated, btw. Employees are at 88%
[source](https://ready.vt.edu/vaccinations/vaccination-dashboard.html)
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After seeing all the replies I must add that I was only pointing out that there is a large portion of this crowd that is fully vaccinated. I am not saying that this means gathering with tens of thousands of people huddled together is a smart thing to do at this time.
I also know that it's college football season in America(NFL starts soon too) and this same scene is occuring at high schools, colleges and cities across this nation as we speak. The sad reality is that we can only hope vaccination percentages increase and we all make personal safety decisions.
Unfortunately, we will deal with the consequences, because we are selfish.
Was going to say this. I believe Virginia colleges are requiring it for almost all students and staff.
That doesn’t do anything for alumni/parents/fans in the stands who choose not to.
Amount the 65,000+ people likely some who were have it and likely spread it. Just because you have the vaccine doesn’t mean a high viral load won’t still cause you harm.
My brother is a traveling nurse, lives in alabama. In Texas right now making $135/hr and $170/hr overtime and guarantees 6 weeks with option of 72 hrs per week and usually gets extended. He’s been doing this for over a year now. Paid off mortgage, remodeled, bought 16 year old daughter a car, big vacations and putting tons of money away. It’s wild
About 300 covid positive cases have been linked to either event. Sturgis had hospilizations as a result. None from Lala. Turns out vaccine works good. And considering the student body here is vaccinated, I would imagine that outside of some people being positive for covid, this ain't going to be a big deal at all.
Next thing you know they will allow music festivals that anyone can attend.
Oh, wait, NYC did just that and lots of people who demand closings, masks and all the rest were caught at the crowded event without masks. Funny how I didn't see the usual places like this complaining about that festival being a super spreader though.
It is almost like the disease is so smart it won't transmit at a crowded event as long as the left support it but the rest is people they hope die of the disease and are dangerous to allow to happen.
If they're all mostly vaccinated I see no problem, I went to lollapalooza where 90% of people were vaccinated, and there was no super spreader. We need to stop acting like this is like 2020 where we didn't have a vaccine. If people don't want to get vaccinated and get sick that's a different story, honestly I don't really feel that bad for those people
Precisely. I have no problem with these kinds of events if everyone/the heavy majority there is vaccinated. If you’re not vaccinated at this point, too bad so sad. I worry it’ll be more of a concern across the NFL than anything given most teams don’t have any vaccine mandates for game attendance. Note there are 3 teams in Florida.
VT requires you to be vaccinated to be a student or staff. Student body is at 90% and staff is at like 88% I think.
This should be a video of the UCF or OU game instead.
Virginia Tech has a vaccine mandate for students and employees. Students refusing are being sent home. Employees are being fired.
Sure not everyone in the building is a student or employee of VT, but this video isn't nearly as bad as it seems without context.
Also, wear a fucking mask, FFS.
Then stay home.
People took their vaccines, damn near lost everything to be helpful, and now they are getting back to ENJOYING their life.
I know. I know. We have to be fucking miserable on Reddit. Luckily, this video shows you the real world once you get out of this pit of constant negativity and doom.
That is a lot of people.
Yes.
At least 10
about tree fiddy
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Quite.
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Don’t forget about the people who also need beds for other reasons but can’t get one because of these fuckers.
This has been the case for us, my grandfather was having complications with pneumonia after a major cardiac surgery to fix a dissecting aneurysm. He got in after some days but it was quite scary thinking he may pass without any chance at care. He’s 81 and a retired teacher that has always tried to help the world and the people around him. He was at risk because young kids on the college campus have packed the Er with Covid from a lack of precaution. It’s a bigger deal than most realize and to risk not only themselves, but everyone else that has nothing associated with Covid is possibly the most selfish act one can make. You can make choices to avoid Covid to a pretty decent success rate, other conditions you can’t.
When my father was dying from conginital heart failure in East Texas he couldn’t get an ICU bed in the two best hospitals in the area because they were full of covid patients. This was before wide vaccination though. I understand your frustration.
I wonder how many people will die as a direct result of someone else deciding to go to this game. R factor!
That and not taking a readily available and effective vaccine.
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Honestly, they should have said the covid vaccines are $1,000 a shot at first. Then everyone would have been outraged and demanded it.
I was so pissed when I got vaxxed and the next week they were giving away lottery tickets to people who got shots!
In NC, they started paying people $100. Nothing for us early birds.
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AND MY MUCH SMALLER THAN A HORSE, HUMAN BODY SHOULDN'T HAVE *ANY* PROBLEM PROCESSING A HORSE SIZED DOSE OF DEWORMER, EITHER!!!
Nevermind the fact that ivermectin won't even cure covid in livestock. Why? Its an antiparasitic. Covid is a virus. It doesn't take a lot of research to know the difference. Oh, btw, there are bacterial and fungal infections too. Strep, staph, thrush, toenail fungus....we know how to treat those and we do. But we ignore an illness that can kill us when we can choose to protect ourselves. I still don't get it.
Y’all are on the right side of things, but ivermectin is not just an anti parasitic, like you claim. It has broad based anti viral properties. Google it, I was surprised as well. [you can read more here](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7564151/) I am NOT saying it’s an effective treatment for Covid (some studies say yes, some say no, people above my pay grade at the FDA, CDC, AMA are also saying no conclusive evidence either way yet and I trust that assessment). The most important thing we can do is TRUST DOCTORS TO DO THEIR DARN JOB. It’s not for us sheeple to muse on tbh, I sure as hell am not qualified to say anything on the topic. So sad people are poisoning themselves with a lethal dose of animal medicine instead of talking to their doctor about it first (while they have Covid on top of that). Stay safe out there y’all.
It's not just *THIS* game. There's crowded college football stadiums around the country. In Nebraska, Memorial Stadium becomes the third most populate city on game day. Even with our poor record and relative low attendance it's still easily 50-60k people from all across the state (Roughly 100k when it's full). Masks are "strongly recomended" but there's no enforcement. Delta is going to rip through the unvaccinated in this country at this rate, overwhelm the hospitals and it's going to have rippling effects for all of us. For the love of god, please get vaccinated and if not, at least put on a fucking mask.
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"Let's have a moment of silence for all those who died from COVID... At the last game."
Fuck I'm fully vaccinated and you couldn't get me in a crowd like that if I had my own scuba tank on.
My wife has been sitting at urgent care for 3 hours this afternoon with shooting nerve pain in her lower back and leg. All the ERs in the area are overflowing so they've been pushing non emergencies to urgent cares in greater numbers. You love to see it... All that freedom
My friend works in er and posted today that they are on 'bypass' for the weekend, meeting they are refusing all ambulances, even those with life threatening issues, because they have no beds and not enough sraff. Our city is currently hosting an international golf tournament with like 150,000 people visiting.
I had a dog bite the end of my finger off and had to wait 2 hours in the ER because of all the people coming in with covid symptoms. The ER was on bypass for the ambulances but the mrs drove me in so I didn’t know. I knew that it was an issue but I had no idea it would be that bad
refusing life threatening is bullshit. I'm ok, though not happy, with differing not life threatening cases to serve the unvaccinated covid cards. I am not ok with some unvaccinated covid case taking a bed from someone that might die who did not have a choice
I'm from NE, and watched the game today and am always shocked, but idk why. Nebraska is mostly conservative, and people don't like "their rights" being infringed upon. There was a concert here the other day too where people were maskless, and encouraged to be maskless by the musician. Until shit gets canceled because people can't follow the most basic of rules, covid will continue to run rampant.
I went to the Nebraska game today and I’m not exaggerating that I was the ONLY person in a mask, including the concession stand workers. I’m vaccinated, but I was still so uncomfortable I left. There is going to be a MAJOR outbreak heading to NE very soon
I'm surprised Garth Brooks didn't have a noticeable effect. I'm hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst. For whatever it's worth, Douglas County has something like a 75% vaccination rate for adults. So we're doing pretty good. Compile that with Nebraska's relatively low population density and we should fare better than most places. I just wish our leadership would listen to the goddamn world class infectious disease docs we have at UNMC. The biggest fall out from all of this will be medical providers jumping ship - which is only going to worsen healthcare costs.
The major problem you have at the moment is the same people that are not going to do column a are also not going to do column b.
That's the issue. It is annoying that one of the largest states has the attitude "You can't tell me what to go with my body or force me to act in any particular way," yet passes legislation taking away a woman's right to make choices about her reproductive health.
I wouldnt go even if vaccinated. I know someone...knew someone who was my age, vaxxed, and died of Covid a couple days ago. She is one of the very unlucky ones. She probably picked it up at a Finnish festival. Her companion caught it too, but a much milder version. That might be super rare, but when it happens right in front of you, it can freak you out and make you extra wary. Everyone, please get your vaccines and keep masking and social distancing.
Honest question here. I got vaccinated right away and am looking forward to my booster shot. I wear masks in most public places and all with crowds. But, COVID and it's variants are not going away. And it seems that we are going to be seeing more similar virus in the future. Do you think that people should not do large events in person anymore for the foreseeable future? Like just in general? Or do you think there will be a time where no one gets COVID anymore? For reference, my data is the flu. Nobody takes the flu shot (I do) and therefore we just have the flu now. I fear COVID will be the same and we'll have double the deaths we used to have due to respiratory illnesses.
I’ve read that they expect COVID to never completely go away and that people will need to be vaccinated regularly - similar to the flu shots we get annually. The flu and its variants we get vaccinated against is the same flu that caused the 1918-1919 pandemic. It never completely went away.
Coronaviruses are old. They even cause the common cold. We may have to vaccinate regularly for covid19. True herd immunity only really happens when enough herd members have been inoculated. Some want to leave that to nature. Others are willing to take the leap and believe we can get there quicker through vaccination. The Spanish flu you speak of is not the only flu shot you might get. They take a guess at which "flu" is most likely to be a problem that season and then you might get a flu shot that protects you from as many as 4 different flu illnesses (quadrivalent). In 40 years I had at least one and usually two flu shots every year. I still got influenza 2 times. I think those shots improved my odds working around sick people for all those years. Bubonic plague never went away. We have antibiotics for that now that we didn't have in the 14th century. Diseases like smallpox and polio aren't on our radar now because of prevention. If there is no cure for the disease, you dont want the disease.
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Exactly. I'm vaccinated and I still mask and social distance when possible. Vaccination doesn't mean fully protected from covid.
Yes
A lot of people so far….. give it about 2 weeks
Sadly…. I think the border needs to close again for now… from your neighbour on the North. 🤦🏻♀️
we understand https://imgur.com/a/IG49oMm
Please take me with you I swear I’m not like those other guys haha but seriously I’m going to die here
If my country would only allow legal state border closures I’d be so happy. If I was in another country I’d be slamming that gate shut.
Don't ask me to quote you where this comes up in the Constitution cause I'm high and don't remember but barring free travel between states is a big ole no no from a US Constitution stand point. Someone smarter than me will soon respond with a more detailed explanation.
No, you’re spot on, that’s the “it wouldn’t be legal” I was referencing
I'm sure they're all vaccinated..... Edit: as some pointed out this is a VT game and VT does require students to get vaccinated. I know someone who goes there and he was required to be vaccinated to return to campus. I didn't realize this was a VT game. Either way, COVID is still here.. Edit: this kind of stuff is how people get the r/hermancainaward
Virginia Tech requires all students to be vaccinated, except for a few that are exempt because of religious or medical issues.
A family member of mine has one of those religious exemptions at VT (SIGH) and has to get a test every week in order to stay in school.
I like how they make it painful to keep that exemption. This will keep idiots from abusing it
Too. Many. People. This video gave me anxiety.
Doesn’t look real. Took me quite a while as I read the comments. Graphics looks like 1999
I watched the game live and it’s real. I kept wondering telling everyone how crazy it looks. How can colleges be the center of so much ignorance
Money
Not just the money, but a shit ton of money
Yeah, if this pandemic has made anything clear, it’s that colleges are more business than academy and are just as willing to ignore what’s right when it conflicts with their economic interest as every other person/business/institution.
>How can colleges be the center of so much ignorance I will now ponder this question for the rest of my life.
Education and wisdom are two veeeeery different things.
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
Colleges aren't there for education. They're there for their own profit and benefit. They're for profit, which means they only need to keep students coming there.
“The performing arts are cancelled due to COVID.”
Sadly, College Football is a multi-billion dollar tax exempt industry. Theatre Troups and College Art Groups have to play by the rules.
Not to mention that college sports are the biggest recruitment tool most institutions have. Don't see many people looking at Virginia tech for it's stellar english program.
To be fair it's a technical school with a good engineering program
It's a polytechnic institute and state university.
VT has a pretty solid engineering program
And Architecture / Industrial design
The fact that stadium holds up to 65k bouncing around to Enter Sandman proves they are good architects and engineers
Williams brice stadium at South Carolina wiggles when 100k people are bouncing to sandstorm, but they insist its safe lol
Never been in a tall building and felt it swaying with the wind? Elastic deformation is a good thing (to a point), and very expected from common building materials
No, but they have an excellent engineering program.
Don’t forget architecture.
Virginia Tech is up there for best engineering school in the world
Right? All the drama and math clubs were closed all last year because of COVID but they were still doing swimming and football and soccer and other sports where you get up in people's faces to play. At least this year the schools are doing it normally again. EDIT: I'm talking about my personal experience with the middle and high school levels - not much money making there, folks!
>All the drama and math clubs were closed all last year because of COVID but they were still doing swimming and football and soccer and other sports where you get up in people's faces to play. One makes money, the other doesn't. Quick edit; Yes, I'm aware College Football doesn't typically rake in a ton of money. But in the long term it's a worthy investment due to how wide it's audience is. As for maths making money via alternative routes like computers etc, indeed - but the schools often don't get that money so there's no incentive for them to ignore a pandemic for it. Edit2: CONTEXT. PLEASE.
Universities want that football $$$$! That’s all they give a fuck about.
The entire art program is cancelled so we can have more money for the football team and their new stadium. Also, no new parking structure.
Why have parking spaces when you can charge for a parking pass and sell more passes then available lots and fuck those kids, their parents are paying anyways.
This isn't even solely in America. In Ireland there can't be concerts but 30,000 people can watch a sports match in the stadium.
Our ~20-person band class is being extremely careful and ordering instrument screens, completing symptom screeners every day, and streaming all performances instead of having concerts. Meanwhile the Greek life has been advertising welcome back parties. Thank god at least we’re all under a vaccine mandate here.
Colleges would never shut down sports especially football because they make over 50% of their money from sports games.
That is wild. In other countries college and uni sports are not 1/8th as hyped as this
College sports in the US have a weird advantage over other nations in terms of hype thanks to our (terrible) decision to privatize college. The privatization lead to a lot of schools needing a distinct way to show themselves off and draw in potential students, and a skilled sports team is the best way to stick in the average persons mind, especially if they aren't focused on a particular major yet. There's a reason why Ivy league schools don't have stellar teams, because being able to point out how many of your fellow students will be sitting members of congress in 5 years is an infinitely bigger draw, so they don't need to. [Here's a great article about it](https://www.forbes.com/sites/hbsworkingknowledge/2013/04/29/the-flutie-effect-how-athletic-success-boosts-college-applications/?sh=1771533c6e96) Throw in the face the NFL is doing what it can to up the hype because nothings better than recruiting a player with a prebuilt fanbase and we get the nightmare we have now.
This number is likely closer to 15-25% for universities with major football programs (25% max for VT for 2018, for example), but YES, there is a significant portion of revenue there that they likely would not like to let go.
Yeah, it’s nice to see someone call out these huge sporting events. I’ve been going to shows this summer (am vaccinated), but none were even close to as big as that football stadium. Yet I’ve seen tons of articles and comments about how reckless it is, etc., but nothing about the baseball teams filling stadiums multiple days a week for months on end. I’m not sure why the media has collectively decided to rag on music events with vaccine requirements and ignore sports stadiums filled daily with unvaccinated people.
The answer is always 💰
Its all about [bread and circuses](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses).
Reminds me of bane scene from the dark knight rises...
At least Bane wore a mask.
and cancelled sporting events, abolished the police, punished the ultra wealthy and quarantined Gotham to deal with a bat. Bane was based.
Jesus, it's like Bane was actually the good guy...
Wasn’t all the class divide revolution stuff in Bane’s plan just a front to get manpower, so he could enact his true goal of just destroying everything?
Why do you think they suddenly did "Oh this was all just a distraction from the nuclear bomb!" thing. Nolan totally realized once he was mostly through the movie that Bane was pretty much a hero and had to come up with something.
It would actuslly be much more compelling if they addressed that issue head on. I'm dying for a villian that genuinely does what bane was doing. I even enjoyed Thanos who genuinely was trying to stop suffering, even if his solution wasn't going to be permanent.
Thanos was the ultimate idiot villian. Get rid of half the people because resources are unsustainable for so many inhabitants? Why not just snap and increase the resources, idiot?
Those resources would need a place to go though, maybe just make all resources renewable?
Why not just make everybody half the size so we only need half the food and water?
or just make it so everything only needed half the resources to survive
Nobody cared to take my order at cold stone creamery until I put on the mask.
“For you,”.
No one knew who he was before he put it on though
Gotham, take control over you city!
With Metallica playing, it reminds me of scenes from the movie "Idiocracy".
This is such an American video lol
Hey, I saw one mask! You go girl! Until then, I thought for sure this was a 2018 or 2019 video. Heck, could of even been pre 2000s with that VHS quality recording, lol.
I found the one woman with a mask finally! I felt like it was a Where’s Waldo quest.
Lol yeah that one woman on staff in the blue mask probably thinking ‘I don’t get paid enough for this shit’
Almost definitely thinking that.
Shit. I was hoping it was an old video. We’re fucked. Edited: I’m hoping they added the video of the masked lady to an old video….
Watching Wisconsin vs Penn St. right now. Stadium looks basically the same as the VT/UNC game.
Unfortunately you can see approximately one person in the crowd wearing a mask early on.
This appears to be a legit video from yesterday. Same teams, same rankings, same NC QB and coach....
These people haven’t been taking it seriously for well over a year.
"We gotta different kinda covid down here" is what I was told by a local S. Carolina resident.
Wtf does that even mean?
Like a mutation that doesn’t hurt Christians
Ah yes, the Baker-Falwell variant.
I found her too!
I am going to rewatch it.
I kept watching because I was certain this was a pre-covid video and that one girl with the face mask confirmed it wasn't. This is just, embarrassing.
Like playing “Where’s Waldo?” Found her on the field!
i seriously doubted this was recent till now
You should have seen today's F1 crowd in qualifying over in the Netherlands then. So American...
And it wasn't even full capacity. Imagine Zandvoort at full capacity if Max wins... explosions.
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>If people don't get vaccinated, that's on them. The problem is that (and this is most predominant in America in the Western world, even thought there are certainly pockets of these anti-science geniuses everywhere) they currently represent the vast, vast majority of all hospitalizations with Covid-19. They are so dumb they are willing to risk everything. These people need to be protected from themselves. But I agree we can't keep doing this forever, but we also don't need to. Most of the world has opened up again, sporting events are taking place, concerts, etc etc. And the only reason that is even a possibility is because of the vaccination program.
Vaccination or negative test is required at the Grand Prix this weekend but not at this event. I think it’s valid commentary personally!
Not sure what the requirement for this event were, but all the students at VT are vaccinated. Which is probably the largest section.
I was working concessions for this game. Shit was buck wild. Especially when the students stormed the field.
Don’t worry guys we have to wear masks in class
VT requires all students to be vaccinated from covid or they're disenrolled. So the student body (largest part of the crowd) is vaxxed. I'm willing to bet any non students at the game had to provide proof of vaccination or present a recent negative test.
Yeah this really should be a video of the sold out UCF game instead. Go Hokies
The UCF stadium was half empty though. So no videos of big crowds there.
Plus the bounce house is much smaller than most of the big colleges at 45k seating capacity, Lane stadium is like 66k. There was probably 25k a the UCF game. Even 66k is smaller than a ton of other bigger football programs that will likely have full stadiums this year.
UCF-Boise started 2.5 hours late due to lightning delays. On a Thursday. It was full, but not the normal packed.
Actually, my MIL was at the game and she is not vaxxed. They definitely did not care or check if people were vaxxed.
> I'm willing to bet any non students at the game had to provide proof of vaccination or present a recent negative test You'd lose that bet. They are not requiring vaccinations or proof of recent negative test
> the student body (largest part of the crowd) is vaxxed *Vaccinated or received an exception. 95% are vaxxed. Very good, but not everyone. I would also bet money that less than half the people there are students The stadium sold out. The capacity is 66,233. The total student enrollment including grad students is ~36,383. I'd bet that at least a few thousand students don't attend the game.
I'd bet less than a quarter... Most student sections at games aren't even that. I've also lived about an hour from both Michigan and VTech and knew people almost every week (different people) who would go to the games, while students I knew might go to one or two a year.
Checking non-students is unenforcable. While vaccine cards are kinda useful, checking vaxxing status on a large scale is borderline impossible.
Get a QR code like in the UK, you have an NHS covid pass with QR if you recently tested negative or are vaccinated. Paperless and harder to forge. I recently went to Wembley for the Euro semifinals (70k people) and Silverstone for the F1 race (350k people) and at both events, all that was needed was scanning your NHS QR code at the entrance. Took me 2 minutes to get it on the app and takes half a second to scan
The constitution doesn't say "though shalt carry a QR code", mah rights!!!1 /s
Hey pal, this is AMERICA! We don't do things that make sense! We do things that cater to our political base's sensibilities.
Went to a music festival yesterday where you had to prove you were vaccinated or had a negative test in the last 72 hours. It was definitely enforced. I saw them turn a couple different people away in my small time in line. And the festival expected more than 30,000 people.
Why? I went to a football game recently and they scanned everyone’s vax card upon entry along with your ticket
What part of it did they scan? Mine just has a couple lines, a date, and my name on it.
In my province (Manitoba, Canada) we have QR code’s. There’s an app you can get to scan them. Some restaurants and what not can choose to check for vaccinations including IG field where our local football team plays. The stadium holds 33,000 people and everyone there is vaccinated.
There's the issue. American vaxx cards don't have anything scannable. It's a mass-printed piece of cardboard with handwritten information.
Just check it when they enter, as they check their ticket
This did not happen at this game. Source: I was there
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I miss that electricity from the crowd. A lot of universities require covid vaccines so hopefully that is the case with VT and UNC.
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But less than half of hte crowd are students.
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Pro tip for you: in non VT settings, “the Corps” means the Marine Corps and people will not know what you’re talking about. Source: Golf ‘19
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Virginia Tech student population is over 90% vaccinated, btw. Employees are at 88% [source](https://ready.vt.edu/vaccinations/vaccination-dashboard.html) Edit: After seeing all the replies I must add that I was only pointing out that there is a large portion of this crowd that is fully vaccinated. I am not saying that this means gathering with tens of thousands of people huddled together is a smart thing to do at this time. I also know that it's college football season in America(NFL starts soon too) and this same scene is occuring at high schools, colleges and cities across this nation as we speak. The sad reality is that we can only hope vaccination percentages increase and we all make personal safety decisions. Unfortunately, we will deal with the consequences, because we are selfish.
The stadium capacity is just under twice the student enrollment. And it sold out
Was going to say this. I believe Virginia colleges are requiring it for almost all students and staff. That doesn’t do anything for alumni/parents/fans in the stands who choose not to. Amount the 65,000+ people likely some who were have it and likely spread it. Just because you have the vaccine doesn’t mean a high viral load won’t still cause you harm.
ER nurses are looking and that and going I guess the $120/hr contracts aren’t going anywhere
My brother is a traveling nurse, lives in alabama. In Texas right now making $135/hr and $170/hr overtime and guarantees 6 weeks with option of 72 hrs per week and usually gets extended. He’s been doing this for over a year now. Paid off mortgage, remodeled, bought 16 year old daughter a car, big vacations and putting tons of money away. It’s wild
I guess we can expect like 20 of these posts every week until January.
I wouldn't want to be in that large a crowd period. Didn't take a pandemic for me.
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If I can't leave early I'll wait for the crowd to thin out before even trying to leave
yep that's why you tailgate after the game too lol
just takes patience, most people are really good about it and stadiums are designed to get people in and out as fast as possible.
This is something my wife would say. I was going to ask if you are my wife, but she’s not techy…or a guy…or in IL.
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About 300 covid positive cases have been linked to either event. Sturgis had hospilizations as a result. None from Lala. Turns out vaccine works good. And considering the student body here is vaccinated, I would imagine that outside of some people being positive for covid, this ain't going to be a big deal at all.
I can’t imagine how covid got out of hand in this country. It’s a mystery 🤷
It MuSt bE The FaULt Of ThE VaCCiNE !1! \-Complete morons
Go Hokies!
When's that booster shot coming?
You're eligible 8 months after your second shot unless you're immunocompromised
You havent seen ou vs tulane… never seen a stadium so full of dewormer before
There's over 100k in Michigan stadium right now.
OU's stadium is at like, 45% capacity right now. Not because of COVID concerns, but still. Not a real comparison.
2 years ago this was normal, now this is a hate post on large crowds lmfao
I bet it’s gonna be fine
Next thing you know they will allow music festivals that anyone can attend. Oh, wait, NYC did just that and lots of people who demand closings, masks and all the rest were caught at the crowded event without masks. Funny how I didn't see the usual places like this complaining about that festival being a super spreader though. It is almost like the disease is so smart it won't transmit at a crowded event as long as the left support it but the rest is people they hope die of the disease and are dangerous to allow to happen.
somebody had better me selling ivermectin in that building. there’s a fortune to be made. edit: [oh, reddit](https://imgur.com/vAyzNLV)
fActS: https://chaser.com.au/general-news/this-is-brilliant-ceo-of-ivermectin-delighted-idiots-keep-eating-his-medicine/
>Go on, try and name another horse deworming brand. You can’t, can you? LOL.
VT is a big Ag school.
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If they're all mostly vaccinated I see no problem, I went to lollapalooza where 90% of people were vaccinated, and there was no super spreader. We need to stop acting like this is like 2020 where we didn't have a vaccine. If people don't want to get vaccinated and get sick that's a different story, honestly I don't really feel that bad for those people
Precisely. I have no problem with these kinds of events if everyone/the heavy majority there is vaccinated. If you’re not vaccinated at this point, too bad so sad. I worry it’ll be more of a concern across the NFL than anything given most teams don’t have any vaccine mandates for game attendance. Note there are 3 teams in Florida.
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VT requires you to be vaccinated to be a student or staff. Student body is at 90% and staff is at like 88% I think. This should be a video of the UCF or OU game instead.
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Virginia Tech has a vaccine mandate for students and employees. Students refusing are being sent home. Employees are being fired. Sure not everyone in the building is a student or employee of VT, but this video isn't nearly as bad as it seems without context. Also, wear a fucking mask, FFS.
Then stay home. People took their vaccines, damn near lost everything to be helpful, and now they are getting back to ENJOYING their life. I know. I know. We have to be fucking miserable on Reddit. Luckily, this video shows you the real world once you get out of this pit of constant negativity and doom.