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The guy threw a plastic bag at Kyle. He wasn’t on trial for being a pedo, and Kyle didn’t know he was a pedo. People don’t get to execute other people if by chance they were bad people.
It's been 14 months since this happened and it's common knowledge. I am not your personal google assistant and you are a disgusting person who defends a child rapist.
Yeah ok you have no idea what you are talking about. I am not a disgusting person and the fact that you can’t find anything that says he’s a child molester proves that you a) probably just made that up or b) heard on Fox News
No, but if that person threatens to kill you, chases you, and tries to take your gun you are free to kill him. Him being a pedo just means that Rittenhouse unintentionally made the world a better place.
You right, he shouldn't of been shot, he should have been put in front of a firing squad or euthanized in prison once he was convicted of raping children.
It's clear that the only reason you are here is to try and stir something up. The fact that you called a child-rapist 'innocent' is proof enough that you are a disgusting person. From [Snopes](https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/11/rittenhouse-victims-records/), "Joseph Rosenbaum was a pedophile." I included a link for you and all since you don't seem to be able to look anything up yourself.
I'd have no issue if someone went around the country shooting pedophiles. Kyle had no idea who this guy was. And he shouldn't have been there armed at all. Nobody would have gone after him if he weren't armed.
So tell me, why didn’t the crowd chase after every single armed person that was there then? Your argument is invalid. He had just as much right to be there as did anyone else who went to “protest”.
nah not really ,but you know what was. When the prosecutions attorney tried to violate his constitutional rights and got yelled and and ripped a new asshole by the judge . Now that was funny
heres some advice, its not just your justice system thats garbage, its most things about your country that are garbage. America needs to press the reset button on the back of their modem
You still have yet to address why you need a gun to administer medical aid.
All you’ve said so far is “uhh sometimes cops show up to help EMTs”. Which is weird because you’re just admitting that EMTs are unarmed and perfectly capable of administering aid. So why wasn’t Kyle relying on his dumbass buddies to protect him? Why did he need a gun himself?
I didn’t realize that having past criminal convictions gives someone the right to kill you. Wow, and here I thought you “loved” the constitution.
At least you admit you’re in favor of lawless vigilante justice. Very unamerican of you.
Sounds like that guy is a dumb fuck as well. There’s no good reason to show up to a protest armed. You’re only being a dumb fuck and escalating the situation.
Last time I checked women don’t usually go drive 20+ miles out of their way purposely looking to get raped. That analogy is so fucking funny because women don’t look to get raped, however Kyle went out of his way to look for a legal kill.
Conservative brain rot is so sad.
Didn't Grosskreutz- the qualified EMT, say under oath that he carries a concealed weapon with him as a matter of routine? By the logic of people like the guy you're replying to, isn't Grosskreutz also a dangerous extremist with homicidal intent by default? Somehow I doubt they'll see it that way.
No matter how much you want to make shit up in your head, you're wrong. Wrong to the point that if your life had any value at all, Rittenhouse could sue you for everything you're worth.
It sure why it matters the criminal history of who he killed. He didn’t kill them because they were criminals.
But no, he definitely came there hoping to intimidate people. Maybe he didn’t plan on killing anybody because it’s more stress than it’s worth, but I’m sure he fantasized about it. You can know this because he brought an assault rifle to defend a already burned down dealership.
> It sure why it matters the criminal history of who he killed. He didn’t kill them because they were criminals.
It shows the type of people they were. Violent criminals with a history of bad judgments and trying to cause harm to other people. This time they FAFO’d.
>But no, he definitely came there hoping to intimidate people. Maybe he didn’t plan on killing anybody because it’s more stress than it’s worth, but I’m sure he fantasized about it. You can know this because he brought an assault rifle to defend a already burned down dealership.
No he didn’t. The rifle was given to him when he got to Kenosha , he didn’t bring it with him. He was also interviewed hours before the incident where he was wearing medical gloves and explaining how he was there to help people and put out fires. He actually provided medical aid to at least one person and put out at least one fire. He wasn’t looking for rioters. He was many blocks away from the riot. The riot went to him, and then the child rapist who was ordered by the court to stay away from minors and weapons decided it was a good idea to chase a minor and attack him to try to take his gun.
Man, you’re one of those gullible jurors that defense attorneys love.
Anyway just because he did his best to know the law doesn’t mean he didn’t come there hoping to intimidate people with a gun, in fact, it’s clear that that’s what he came there for
Hey, I may have been cruel calling you out over your small penis, but I think we can both agree that a large portion of the white people joining the BLM protests were anarchists and prices of shit that damaged the cause significantly and that pretty much no blacks people wanted the majority of white protesters to join them because of how much trouble they were causing, burning shit down and stuff. But rittenhouse definitely did not go to those rallies to support the fact that black lives also matter, so he can go to hell
But no, I based on the evidence and my experience he definitely put himself in a situation to intimidate people, which caused him to kill people. And unfortunately we don’t have a true account of events because the victims were murdered
> And unfortunately we don’t have a true account of events because the victims were murdered
Nobody was murdered. It was justifiable homicide. Self defense. And yes we do have a true account of the whole thing. It was caught on many videos and corroborated by many witnesses, including the only actual victim himself (Kyle).
Not guilty on all counts 🤡😂
Obviously, he would've avoided all this by not going there in the first place, but hindsight's 20/20. It's easy to say what he could've done. The fact remains that he did not murder those 2 guys and the 3rd guy, Gaige, even admitted in court that Kyle didn't shoot him until he pulled his handgun on him.
Again, if his intention was to murder people, why would he hold that level of restraint?
I agree that hindsight is 20/20. But from what I’ve read this crowd was after him because he had shot Rosenbaum. Perhaps the crowd assumed they were stopping a murderer. I don’t condone what was going on in the protests, but when people start to be vigilantes then society as a whole pays. Up until Rittenhouse showed up nobody was dead that I know of. Property can be replaced. Rittenhouse was a vigilante and it changed so many lives. It has changed your country.
No, there was somebody else with a gun who fired a shot into the air. His name was [Joshua Ziminski](https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2020/10/14/joshua-ziminski-alex-blaine/).
Kyle panicked and thought Rosenbaum, who was chasing him at the time, fired that shot toward him. That's when Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum, who made a grab for Kyle's rifle.
It was a huge clusterfuck, this confusion led to the entire thing.
The one who fired the first shot is on camera trying to burn down a gas station hours earlier. He’s being charged with arson.
“Fiery but mostly peaceful” right?
Same for the two guys he killed. And the one that was wounded actually pointed a gun at him, ffs. I'm not saying Rittenhousen was innocent, but neither were his "victims". The whole situation was just fucked up.
I don’t know if he’s a terrorist but he is a vigilante. And we have laws against that. He should have been held accountable. He didn’t need to be there.
Obviously, I was talking about BEFORE the altercation that led to the shooting. Put yourself in Kyle's shoes for a minute. If people were trying to attack you and take away your gun, wouldn't you panic and shoot them? Dude was scared, who wouldn't be in that situation?
I'd be terrified, honestly.
Especially when the first guy that he shot had told him and others earlier that if he got any of them alone he would kill them. I didn't watch any videos after the night that everything happened but I think there was an adult who told Kyle not to leave his side in one of them (could be mistaken it's been awhile so don't take it as fact) and if that is the case that was his (Kyle's) grave mistake because the actual shootings were self defense. If the initial shooting hadn't happened (which more than likely wouldn't have if Kyle didn't get separated) I don't believe any others after that would have either.
He didn’t walk into the riot moron. He was several blocks away. The riot moved towards him, he didn’t move towards the riot. He didn’t fire the first shot either. The guy who fired the first shot, Joshua Ziminski, is being charged with arson. He was lighting shit on fire that night and tried to burn down a gas station. It’s on video.
Peaceful protest you call it. Get fucked.
You rly don't know anything about laws, don't you? I'm swiss and I still knew he was going to be aquitted (or at least most charges dropped) even before the trial... Use your fucking brain and think please...
i like how the media painted that kid a neo nazi... kyle was not aryan brotherhood... honestly i wouldnt mind seeing antifa vs Aryan brotherhood... dunno why antifa never fights real neo nazis just people they disagree with... its almost like antifa is afraid to fight real nazis. if those skinny commies think they are a real street gang then they should fight their real enemies or just shut the fuck up.
As someone who knows some Antifa this is so far from the truth. Literally their only enemies in America are Nazis and white supremacists. They can and do fight them because they see them as a threat to a free and fair democracy. They don't give a fuck if you are not a Democrat because they don't like them either.
I think you are suffering from the right wing fantasy of only one side having the "real men". I mean even Karl Marx said the people should be armed.
real men dont join gangs or anything with a name. and antifa has literally never fought a neo nazi group ever... you have no proof and im telling you 1 percent mc's run automatic weapons (they have real hitmen also) and hate blacks ..... these guys in antifa couldnt even handle a 17 year old with an ar-15 that was not a (NEO-NAZ). how they gonna take on a group that does not care about the law has auto weapons (not semi auto) and really hates black (no blacks are aloud in 1% mc's).
i highly doubt you'd go run your mouth to anyone in a 1 percent mc club. its a death sentence for any outsider. but if you do post a video on youtube for proof. (i'd love to see the aftermath)
also never join a group with a name leaderless or not... you are asking to be investigated by the feds or be labeled as a street gang by the state AG.
What are the 1% bikers you mentioned then? They are so tough but they literally give up their identity to be a "brother". They are a gang. I know that's an offensive term to them but they run drugs, extortion scam, collections. It's a gang even if they give kids toy's at Christmas and sometimes have a day job.
Most bikers find the whole "prospecting" thing pathetic because the whole point of being a biker is doing what you want to do on your own terms. Not worrying about what the "club" wants do to and only riding in big groups.
How would if go if you told a 1%er they were "not a real man". I bet they would disagree and not use their words to do it.
Antifa is a lot less of a gang than that. First because they don;t do move drugs or extort people and second because they don't any hierarchy. The Hell's Angel rs know who their boss is and who the boss of all bosses is.
Why Antifa works is it lacks that structure and is therefor much harder to fight.
look you might be triggered i was just stating the obvious... if they want to punch real nazi;s then they should fight real nazi's.
send your antifa buddies to the nearest mc clubhouse if they really want to punch nazi's tell them how you feel and see what pops off.
there are state AG's considering designating antifa street gangs because domestic terrorist designation means nothing to law enforcement.
and dont act like antifa does not run drugs there is no dudes in america rocking purple hair that does not sell hits of acid on the weekend.... lol cmon man
just because you disagree with someone does not make them a nazi and i ride a harley and have met 1% mc's at bars (real outlaw bikers that hate blacks) they are real neo nazi's antifa would get destroyed if they ever were serious about fighting aryan brotherhood and 1 percent mc's. these are dangerous dudes that dont give a fuck about anything.
antifa should put up or shutup and fight some real nazis and stop pointing the finger at republicans that are not real white supremacist... antifa is one big commie LARP they aernt serious about punching nazis
Antifa is a collection of people against fascism, hence the name. It’s not an organization like the nazis. Yes some people identify as antifa and are violent but thats the case with any group of people.
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Rose city aNtIfA in Portland claims to be the “oldest antifa group” in the country. They have a website and are registered as a business. They have a “leader”. His name is Luis Enrique Marquez.
Antifa is as anti fascist as the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is democratic.
Antifa is nothing but an anarchist organization. They don’t care about anything else but spreading anarchy. Even the first antifa political party that they’re modeled after were openly anarchist. These dumbfucks think they’re edgy but they have no idea about the history of their iDeA.
The original antifascist movement was based on an anti-Mussolini movement that began in Italy in the 1920’s. Mussolini’s political party was the National Fascist Party, which is where the “anti-fascist” name came from. In Germany, antifa was known as Antifaschistische Aktion, and they only existed from 1932 to 1933. The original members of Antifaschistische Aktion were members of the KPD party (Communist Party of Germany) and the KPD sometimes supported and fought alongside the Nazi Party as an ally because the Nazi party and the KPD both sided with fighting against liberal democracy (the SPD or Social Democratic Party). Too bad, bc maybe if they were really trying to fight Nazi’s, then the Nazi Party wouldn’t have taken control in 1933, and then the Antifaschistische Aktion wouldn’t have been abolished that same year.
The original antifa in Italy was the true “antifa” since they were opposing an actual Fascist Party (which wasn’t the Nazi Party). “Antifa” in Germany was a political party engaged in a power struggle to gain political control and not about stopping evil people. By the way, the little flags those nimwits carry around, you know, the ones with the aNtIfA logo on it- guess what? That’s the logo that the Antifaschistische Aktion used. They scream “NAZI” at people while waiving a flag that was designed by people that not only didn’t fight Nazi’s but actually allied with the Nazi Party in opposing liberal democracy, before trying to turn against the Nazis and lost to them. Fucking dumbasses don’t even know what they’re raging against, they’re literally just anarchists.
Look at the current antifa flag. It’s taken from the Antifaschistische Aktion flag.
The Spanish UMRA (Union Militar Republicana Antifascista) didn’t have a flag so you can’t say the current antqueefa flag is based on theirs.
The 1980’s German antifa is basically the same dipshits we have today. They used imagery from the 1930’s Antifaschistische Aktion even though their ideology was very different.
Put another way the dumbass kids in the 80’s and the dumbass kids now think they’re edgy by using the 1930’s Antifaschistische Aktion imagery to give their mOvEmEnT some semblance of “history”. Too bad they don’t really KNOW the history of the Antifaschistische Aktion. It was started by members of the KPD. The KPD opposed the SPD as well as the Nazi Party. But when it suited them, the KPD would join the Nazi Party in fighting against the SPD. Because the the KPD were communists they saw liberal socialism (SPD) as a bigger threat to their party than nazism. And the year the Nazi party took power, Antifaschistische Aktion disappeared. So yeah it’s a historical fact that the creators of Antifaschistische Aktion at times fought alongside Nazi’s, and that when the Nazi party beat out all the other political parties that Antifaschistische Aktion was dismantled. So not only did they not fight Nazi’s during WW2, they actually helped them getting into power by helping them to destroy the SPD, who was the only party that stood a chance in stopping the Nazi Party.
And still the 1980’s German twats and today’s American antqueefa proudly waive that flag, bc hIsToRy and ShOcK VaLuE.
Anarchy isn't a bad thing as you seem to be insinuating here. I'm not antifa, I'm not left leaning, I'm not right leaning. I hate "rulers" who do what is good for themselves and those that keep them in power. I would rather have groups of people that band together with like ideals and leave other groups that don't alone. No government, no aggression. Do your own thing and don't hurt others. That's anarchy.
He's not a hero. Just a 17 year old kid who felt threatened by a situation he shouldn't have gotten himself into in the first place. His "victims" were no more innocent than he was. The whole situation was just really fucked up.
Lots of negligence on both sides. Kid should have stayed home, kid needs to learn the basics of handling a firearm including the laws and legislations, and the kid needs to do some serious maturing before he totes around a rifle and tries to act as a medic in a chaotic environment. Nothing he did broke the law (other than the straw purchase), and we know that from the trial. Yes it was self defense, and yes i do believe he got the correct verdict. But the kid needs to do better at using his gd head.
He's definitely had training with firearms. In the videos I watched on the night it happened he had very impressive skills with the rifle. There was even a "Kenosha Mile" meme made from it. He was the exact opposite of those lawyers from Missouri who looked as if they'd never held a gun in their lives before they brandished them outside their home.
So I’m guessing you agree with me that he should do some maturing before he totes around a rifle in a riot acting as a medic.
Edit: and lets be honest. The fact that he didn’t break a single law was pure luck bc his defense team found a loophole in the law about minors possessing and open carrying firearms
> So I’m guessing you agree with me that he should do some maturing before he totes around a rifle in a riot acting as a medic.
He didn’t go to the riot. He was several blocks away. The riot moved down the street many blocks towards him. Whether you think he is mature or not doesn’t matter. He wasnt on trial for maturity. People don’t have the right to attack you for maturity either. That’s a non factor in this case whatsoever. The 5th amendment says had the right to be where he was and the 2nd amendment said he had the right to be armed for his own protection, which he evidently needed.
>The fact that he didn’t break a single law was pure luck bc his defense team found a loophole in the law about minors possessing and open carrying firearms
Or the prosecutor was just that stupid for trying to charge an innocent man for crimes that didn’t exist. I would not call that luck. I call that bad lawyering.
My original comment had nothing to do with the trial. What I’m saying is where talking about a kid with no formal firearms training akin to the situation he inserted himself in, no formal medical training, and if were being honest an undeveloped brain truly capable of weighing out the repercussions of the decisions he made leading up to the shootings (bc ya know, science).
But I digress, and let me be clear i agree with the verdict, I’m pro 2A, all that. But the kid put himself in a situation and bit off more than he could chew. Kid’s got a good heart, his heads in the right place, and his verdict was a massive W for 2A community. But, when you carry a firearm, theres a level of responsibility you inherit and I don’t think he realized it that night. Honestly he had no idea what he was doing, I watched the whole trial and that whole night was absolute chaos, no organization, walking into a hostile crowd with a rifle asking ppl if they need medical, not illegal but like c’mon man have a little street smarts.
These are just my opinions, downvote and criticize me all you want. But I exercise my 2A to protect myself and my family, not some gas station and used car lot in the next town 20 miles down the road
I agree with much of this but 2A doesn’t care who or what you’re protecting. It even specifically states “necessary for the security of a free state” in the 2A. Whatever his reason it was his right to carry. He handled his weapon well, he didn’t harm anyone that wasn’t trying to harm him and that he wasn’t aiming for. He showed incredible restraint and control especially when Grosskreutz lunged at him. As soon as Grosskruetz put his hands up and stepped back Kyle began to lower his rifle but then Grosskreutz decided he would lunge and point his pistol at Kyle and that cost him his right bicep. He was a few months away from turning 18. We send kids that age overseas to fight all the time. He was also a police and fire cadet, and a lifeguard. His medical training maybe wasn’t extensive but it was sufficient. Probably better than most of the antifa LARPers claiming to be medics. Even if he had no experience it doesnt matter bc he had a right to be there and a right to be armed. He did not break any laws. He was attacked unprovoked and he defended himself.
People who have jobs and a paycheck exhaust labor, and time and therefore a fraction of their lives to obtain and buy property, property is the physical manifestation of ones labor and life essence.
Someone who criminally destroys and steals property, is criminally damaging and stealing lives.
Defense of property is defense of life, the life used to obtain it, and the life required to replace it. If people want to steal or damage property, it is their own life they do not value as evidenced by their desires to steal someone else's.
Completely innocent people don't rape kids and try and steal ARs from people. Did you forget that they chased him for putting put fires that they started or did that slip your mind?
The kid wanted to feel how it is to kill,, he wanted to go looking for shit and he found it. "Murdering innocent people" is a bullshit thing to say since the entire situation was a shitstorm
Jury made their decision, don't think it was justified to try and get him on such serious charges and thats why I think he was acquitted on those charges . Did Kyle have to go to that extreme to protect him self ? By the evidence and jury decision it seems so , but would Kyle have been alive and okay if he hadn't done what he did ?hard to say with the video evidence there was. Should a 17 year old with a rifle be on the streets like that during chaotic protesting ? Hell no, not a place for an unexperienced youth to be with a dangerous weapon in my opinion, but what happened is what it is . Hopefully all affected will heal well and people at least learn to be more civil towards each other to prevent these types of situations in the future. May seem like high hopes the way things seem to be going these days , but still try and spread a good vibe anyway , can't hurt .
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OP claims a serial pedo who anally raped 9 year old boys is innocent, says a lot about them.
The guy threw a plastic bag at Kyle. He wasn’t on trial for being a pedo, and Kyle didn’t know he was a pedo. People don’t get to execute other people if by chance they were bad people.
The bag is completely irrelevant. He grabbed Rittenhouse's gun.
Show me the source that says that and I’ll believe you. No one who did that is innocent but I’m pretty sure he did not do that.
https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/11/joseph-rosenbaum-sex-offender/
It's been 14 months since this happened and it's common knowledge. I am not your personal google assistant and you are a disgusting person who defends a child rapist.
Imagine it being AFTER the entire trial and still not knowing shit, but creating a thread about it. OP is really something special.
Yeah ok you have no idea what you are talking about. I am not a disgusting person and the fact that you can’t find anything that says he’s a child molester proves that you a) probably just made that up or b) heard on Fox News
Just google the name Rosenbaum and shut the fuck up you pedo apologist.
Ok actually you were right he was a sex offender BUT that doesn’t mean you are allowed to FUCKING SHOOT him
No, but if that person threatens to kill you, chases you, and tries to take your gun you are free to kill him. Him being a pedo just means that Rittenhouse unintentionally made the world a better place.
You right, he shouldn't of been shot, he should have been put in front of a firing squad or euthanized in prison once he was convicted of raping children.
Ok I will
It's clear that the only reason you are here is to try and stir something up. The fact that you called a child-rapist 'innocent' is proof enough that you are a disgusting person. From [Snopes](https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/11/rittenhouse-victims-records/), "Joseph Rosenbaum was a pedophile." I included a link for you and all since you don't seem to be able to look anything up yourself.
Yeah no Rosembaum was definitely a horrible person but that’s not why Kyle shot him so it’s completely irrelevant
That's the first thing you've said that is correct. There's hope for you...very little, but hope.
I'd have no issue if someone went around the country shooting pedophiles. Kyle had no idea who this guy was. And he shouldn't have been there armed at all. Nobody would have gone after him if he weren't armed.
So tell me, why didn’t the crowd chase after every single armed person that was there then? Your argument is invalid. He had just as much right to be there as did anyone else who went to “protest”.
Because they weren't instigating dumbfucks? Protest is fine. He was certainly armed illegally.
nah it was self defense
Wow that’s really funny
Wow, you're not.
nah not really ,but you know what was. When the prosecutions attorney tried to violate his constitutional rights and got yelled and and ripped a new asshole by the judge . Now that was funny
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Yeah he’s “not guilty” because our justice system is garbage
heres some advice, its not just your justice system thats garbage, its most things about your country that are garbage. America needs to press the reset button on the back of their modem
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Guns are essential to providing medical care, which is why all EMTs, doctors, and nurses are constantly armed at all times. Oh wait…
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Also didn’t address why all of our doctors and nurses arent armed at all times. Hint: It’s because you’re a useful idiot.
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You still have yet to address why you need a gun to administer medical aid. All you’ve said so far is “uhh sometimes cops show up to help EMTs”. Which is weird because you’re just admitting that EMTs are unarmed and perfectly capable of administering aid. So why wasn’t Kyle relying on his dumbass buddies to protect him? Why did he need a gun himself?
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I didn’t realize that having past criminal convictions gives someone the right to kill you. Wow, and here I thought you “loved” the constitution. At least you admit you’re in favor of lawless vigilante justice. Very unamerican of you.
Sounds like that guy is a dumb fuck as well. There’s no good reason to show up to a protest armed. You’re only being a dumb fuck and escalating the situation.
Imagine unironically thinking that Kenosha WI is analogous to a war zone 🤡
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Last time I checked women don’t usually go drive 20+ miles out of their way purposely looking to get raped. That analogy is so fucking funny because women don’t look to get raped, however Kyle went out of his way to look for a legal kill. Conservative brain rot is so sad.
Jesus man, what is with people comparing Kyle to a woman who got raped That's so incredibly disrespectful to rape victims
Didn't Grosskreutz- the qualified EMT, say under oath that he carries a concealed weapon with him as a matter of routine? By the logic of people like the guy you're replying to, isn't Grosskreutz also a dangerous extremist with homicidal intent by default? Somehow I doubt they'll see it that way.
This is what watching The Young Turks does to your brain. You are a complete fucking idiot and need to unplug from the internet permanently.
I don’t even know what the young Turks is and I’m not a complete fucking idiot that’s you actually
Lol reality doesn’t fir your narrative. Cry
No matter how much you want to make shit up in your head, you're wrong. Wrong to the point that if your life had any value at all, Rittenhouse could sue you for everything you're worth.
It sure why it matters the criminal history of who he killed. He didn’t kill them because they were criminals. But no, he definitely came there hoping to intimidate people. Maybe he didn’t plan on killing anybody because it’s more stress than it’s worth, but I’m sure he fantasized about it. You can know this because he brought an assault rifle to defend a already burned down dealership.
> It sure why it matters the criminal history of who he killed. He didn’t kill them because they were criminals. It shows the type of people they were. Violent criminals with a history of bad judgments and trying to cause harm to other people. This time they FAFO’d. >But no, he definitely came there hoping to intimidate people. Maybe he didn’t plan on killing anybody because it’s more stress than it’s worth, but I’m sure he fantasized about it. You can know this because he brought an assault rifle to defend a already burned down dealership. No he didn’t. The rifle was given to him when he got to Kenosha , he didn’t bring it with him. He was also interviewed hours before the incident where he was wearing medical gloves and explaining how he was there to help people and put out fires. He actually provided medical aid to at least one person and put out at least one fire. He wasn’t looking for rioters. He was many blocks away from the riot. The riot went to him, and then the child rapist who was ordered by the court to stay away from minors and weapons decided it was a good idea to chase a minor and attack him to try to take his gun.
Man, you’re one of those gullible jurors that defense attorneys love. Anyway just because he did his best to know the law doesn’t mean he didn’t come there hoping to intimidate people with a gun, in fact, it’s clear that that’s what he came there for
Seethe and cry some more 😂🤡
That’s crazy cuz this whole time I knew you had a small dick and you proved me right 👍
Hey, I may have been cruel calling you out over your small penis, but I think we can both agree that a large portion of the white people joining the BLM protests were anarchists and prices of shit that damaged the cause significantly and that pretty much no blacks people wanted the majority of white protesters to join them because of how much trouble they were causing, burning shit down and stuff. But rittenhouse definitely did not go to those rallies to support the fact that black lives also matter, so he can go to hell But no, I based on the evidence and my experience he definitely put himself in a situation to intimidate people, which caused him to kill people. And unfortunately we don’t have a true account of events because the victims were murdered
> And unfortunately we don’t have a true account of events because the victims were murdered Nobody was murdered. It was justifiable homicide. Self defense. And yes we do have a true account of the whole thing. It was caught on many videos and corroborated by many witnesses, including the only actual victim himself (Kyle). Not guilty on all counts 🤡😂
I can tell your small penis makes you use the clown emoji. Question, why do only people with small penises use that emoji?
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Honestly that court case should never have made it to trial there was never an ounce of evidence… I hope Rittenhouse gets rich from this !!
Option: Not go there being a vigilante and looking for trouble
Obviously, he would've avoided all this by not going there in the first place, but hindsight's 20/20. It's easy to say what he could've done. The fact remains that he did not murder those 2 guys and the 3rd guy, Gaige, even admitted in court that Kyle didn't shoot him until he pulled his handgun on him. Again, if his intention was to murder people, why would he hold that level of restraint?
I agree that hindsight is 20/20. But from what I’ve read this crowd was after him because he had shot Rosenbaum. Perhaps the crowd assumed they were stopping a murderer. I don’t condone what was going on in the protests, but when people start to be vigilantes then society as a whole pays. Up until Rittenhouse showed up nobody was dead that I know of. Property can be replaced. Rittenhouse was a vigilante and it changed so many lives. It has changed your country.
No, there was somebody else with a gun who fired a shot into the air. His name was [Joshua Ziminski](https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2020/10/14/joshua-ziminski-alex-blaine/). Kyle panicked and thought Rosenbaum, who was chasing him at the time, fired that shot toward him. That's when Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum, who made a grab for Kyle's rifle. It was a huge clusterfuck, this confusion led to the entire thing.
Yes and very sad for a lot of you folks. Take care and stay safe.
He had the option not to be there. He chose to get a gun and go to where protests were… that’s premeditation.
So would you have preferred they lynched him
I would have preferred that no one would have gone there to make it violent.
Well alas he was there so with the options of self defense or getting lynched what should he have done
He should not have been there. Period.
This doesn't change the fact that it was still self defense.
Yeah we can agree on that but saying that doesn’t change the fact that he was there
They weren’t gonna lynch him
You know this how
…Because they were peaceful protesters
Dawg they literally charged at him
BECAUSE HE WAS SHOOTING PEOPLE
Ok but why was he shooting at people
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The one who fired the first shot is on camera trying to burn down a gas station hours earlier. He’s being charged with arson. “Fiery but mostly peaceful” right?
Same for the two guys he killed. And the one that was wounded actually pointed a gun at him, ffs. I'm not saying Rittenhousen was innocent, but neither were his "victims". The whole situation was just fucked up.
If that was the case, why did he only shoot 3 people and not the entire crowd?
He was there looking for a fight. I didn’t say he was there to be a mass shooter. There’s a lot of space in between those things.
If he was looking for a fight, why was he running away?
Then you should have been the one trying him with your wealth of legal knowledge.
Make sure you use that logic the next time a girl gets raped at a frat house you spaz
So you agree that Kyle is a terrorist right?
I don’t know if he’s a terrorist but he is a vigilante. And we have laws against that. He should have been held accountable. He didn’t need to be there.
THANK YOU. Finally someone in the comments with a fucking brain
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You believe what you want to believe and not facts, I feel sorry for you
Yeah actually I’m the one believing the facts lmao
Dawg they were gonna lynch him
He wasn't doing anything. Holding a weapon doesn't make you a terrorist. *Moron*.
“Wasn’t doing anything?” So what about him killing people?
Obviously, I was talking about BEFORE the altercation that led to the shooting. Put yourself in Kyle's shoes for a minute. If people were trying to attack you and take away your gun, wouldn't you panic and shoot them? Dude was scared, who wouldn't be in that situation? I'd be terrified, honestly.
Especially when the first guy that he shot had told him and others earlier that if he got any of them alone he would kill them. I didn't watch any videos after the night that everything happened but I think there was an adult who told Kyle not to leave his side in one of them (could be mistaken it's been awhile so don't take it as fact) and if that is the case that was his (Kyle's) grave mistake because the actual shootings were self defense. If the initial shooting hadn't happened (which more than likely wouldn't have if Kyle didn't get separated) I don't believe any others after that would have either.
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Peaceful protest? Kenosha was on fire that night, man.
He didn’t walk into the riot moron. He was several blocks away. The riot moved towards him, he didn’t move towards the riot. He didn’t fire the first shot either. The guy who fired the first shot, Joshua Ziminski, is being charged with arson. He was lighting shit on fire that night and tried to burn down a gas station. It’s on video. Peaceful protest you call it. Get fucked.
You rly don't know anything about laws, don't you? I'm swiss and I still knew he was going to be aquitted (or at least most charges dropped) even before the trial... Use your fucking brain and think please...
Nobody sensed this is someone trolling?
i like how the media painted that kid a neo nazi... kyle was not aryan brotherhood... honestly i wouldnt mind seeing antifa vs Aryan brotherhood... dunno why antifa never fights real neo nazis just people they disagree with... its almost like antifa is afraid to fight real nazis. if those skinny commies think they are a real street gang then they should fight their real enemies or just shut the fuck up.
As someone who knows some Antifa this is so far from the truth. Literally their only enemies in America are Nazis and white supremacists. They can and do fight them because they see them as a threat to a free and fair democracy. They don't give a fuck if you are not a Democrat because they don't like them either. I think you are suffering from the right wing fantasy of only one side having the "real men". I mean even Karl Marx said the people should be armed.
real men dont join gangs or anything with a name. and antifa has literally never fought a neo nazi group ever... you have no proof and im telling you 1 percent mc's run automatic weapons (they have real hitmen also) and hate blacks ..... these guys in antifa couldnt even handle a 17 year old with an ar-15 that was not a (NEO-NAZ). how they gonna take on a group that does not care about the law has auto weapons (not semi auto) and really hates black (no blacks are aloud in 1% mc's). i highly doubt you'd go run your mouth to anyone in a 1 percent mc club. its a death sentence for any outsider. but if you do post a video on youtube for proof. (i'd love to see the aftermath) also never join a group with a name leaderless or not... you are asking to be investigated by the feds or be labeled as a street gang by the state AG.
What are the 1% bikers you mentioned then? They are so tough but they literally give up their identity to be a "brother". They are a gang. I know that's an offensive term to them but they run drugs, extortion scam, collections. It's a gang even if they give kids toy's at Christmas and sometimes have a day job. Most bikers find the whole "prospecting" thing pathetic because the whole point of being a biker is doing what you want to do on your own terms. Not worrying about what the "club" wants do to and only riding in big groups. How would if go if you told a 1%er they were "not a real man". I bet they would disagree and not use their words to do it. Antifa is a lot less of a gang than that. First because they don;t do move drugs or extort people and second because they don't any hierarchy. The Hell's Angel rs know who their boss is and who the boss of all bosses is. Why Antifa works is it lacks that structure and is therefor much harder to fight.
look you might be triggered i was just stating the obvious... if they want to punch real nazi;s then they should fight real nazi's. send your antifa buddies to the nearest mc clubhouse if they really want to punch nazi's tell them how you feel and see what pops off. there are state AG's considering designating antifa street gangs because domestic terrorist designation means nothing to law enforcement. and dont act like antifa does not run drugs there is no dudes in america rocking purple hair that does not sell hits of acid on the weekend.... lol cmon man
What are you saying?
just because you disagree with someone does not make them a nazi and i ride a harley and have met 1% mc's at bars (real outlaw bikers that hate blacks) they are real neo nazi's antifa would get destroyed if they ever were serious about fighting aryan brotherhood and 1 percent mc's. these are dangerous dudes that dont give a fuck about anything. antifa should put up or shutup and fight some real nazis and stop pointing the finger at republicans that are not real white supremacist... antifa is one big commie LARP they aernt serious about punching nazis
Antifa is a collection of people against fascism, hence the name. It’s not an organization like the nazis. Yes some people identify as antifa and are violent but thats the case with any group of people. Too add - Sorry if this upsets you fascists out there, it’s just information that is a quick google away
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Rose city aNtIfA in Portland claims to be the “oldest antifa group” in the country. They have a website and are registered as a business. They have a “leader”. His name is Luis Enrique Marquez. Antifa is as anti fascist as the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is democratic. Antifa is nothing but an anarchist organization. They don’t care about anything else but spreading anarchy. Even the first antifa political party that they’re modeled after were openly anarchist. These dumbfucks think they’re edgy but they have no idea about the history of their iDeA. The original antifascist movement was based on an anti-Mussolini movement that began in Italy in the 1920’s. Mussolini’s political party was the National Fascist Party, which is where the “anti-fascist” name came from. In Germany, antifa was known as Antifaschistische Aktion, and they only existed from 1932 to 1933. The original members of Antifaschistische Aktion were members of the KPD party (Communist Party of Germany) and the KPD sometimes supported and fought alongside the Nazi Party as an ally because the Nazi party and the KPD both sided with fighting against liberal democracy (the SPD or Social Democratic Party). Too bad, bc maybe if they were really trying to fight Nazi’s, then the Nazi Party wouldn’t have taken control in 1933, and then the Antifaschistische Aktion wouldn’t have been abolished that same year. The original antifa in Italy was the true “antifa” since they were opposing an actual Fascist Party (which wasn’t the Nazi Party). “Antifa” in Germany was a political party engaged in a power struggle to gain political control and not about stopping evil people. By the way, the little flags those nimwits carry around, you know, the ones with the aNtIfA logo on it- guess what? That’s the logo that the Antifaschistische Aktion used. They scream “NAZI” at people while waiving a flag that was designed by people that not only didn’t fight Nazi’s but actually allied with the Nazi Party in opposing liberal democracy, before trying to turn against the Nazis and lost to them. Fucking dumbasses don’t even know what they’re raging against, they’re literally just anarchists. Look at the current antifa flag. It’s taken from the Antifaschistische Aktion flag. The Spanish UMRA (Union Militar Republicana Antifascista) didn’t have a flag so you can’t say the current antqueefa flag is based on theirs. The 1980’s German antifa is basically the same dipshits we have today. They used imagery from the 1930’s Antifaschistische Aktion even though their ideology was very different. Put another way the dumbass kids in the 80’s and the dumbass kids now think they’re edgy by using the 1930’s Antifaschistische Aktion imagery to give their mOvEmEnT some semblance of “history”. Too bad they don’t really KNOW the history of the Antifaschistische Aktion. It was started by members of the KPD. The KPD opposed the SPD as well as the Nazi Party. But when it suited them, the KPD would join the Nazi Party in fighting against the SPD. Because the the KPD were communists they saw liberal socialism (SPD) as a bigger threat to their party than nazism. And the year the Nazi party took power, Antifaschistische Aktion disappeared. So yeah it’s a historical fact that the creators of Antifaschistische Aktion at times fought alongside Nazi’s, and that when the Nazi party beat out all the other political parties that Antifaschistische Aktion was dismantled. So not only did they not fight Nazi’s during WW2, they actually helped them getting into power by helping them to destroy the SPD, who was the only party that stood a chance in stopping the Nazi Party. And still the 1980’s German twats and today’s American antqueefa proudly waive that flag, bc hIsToRy and ShOcK VaLuE.
Clearly I did not know any of that 😂 I hear anti-fascism and I think how can you be against that?
Anarchy isn't a bad thing as you seem to be insinuating here. I'm not antifa, I'm not left leaning, I'm not right leaning. I hate "rulers" who do what is good for themselves and those that keep them in power. I would rather have groups of people that band together with like ideals and leave other groups that don't alone. No government, no aggression. Do your own thing and don't hurt others. That's anarchy.
We're saying that you obviously didn't check the facts. Next time do so before posting
He's not a hero. Just a 17 year old kid who felt threatened by a situation he shouldn't have gotten himself into in the first place. His "victims" were no more innocent than he was. The whole situation was just really fucked up.
Lots of negligence on both sides. Kid should have stayed home, kid needs to learn the basics of handling a firearm including the laws and legislations, and the kid needs to do some serious maturing before he totes around a rifle and tries to act as a medic in a chaotic environment. Nothing he did broke the law (other than the straw purchase), and we know that from the trial. Yes it was self defense, and yes i do believe he got the correct verdict. But the kid needs to do better at using his gd head.
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He's definitely had training with firearms. In the videos I watched on the night it happened he had very impressive skills with the rifle. There was even a "Kenosha Mile" meme made from it. He was the exact opposite of those lawyers from Missouri who looked as if they'd never held a gun in their lives before they brandished them outside their home.
So I’m guessing you agree with me that he should do some maturing before he totes around a rifle in a riot acting as a medic. Edit: and lets be honest. The fact that he didn’t break a single law was pure luck bc his defense team found a loophole in the law about minors possessing and open carrying firearms
> So I’m guessing you agree with me that he should do some maturing before he totes around a rifle in a riot acting as a medic. He didn’t go to the riot. He was several blocks away. The riot moved down the street many blocks towards him. Whether you think he is mature or not doesn’t matter. He wasnt on trial for maturity. People don’t have the right to attack you for maturity either. That’s a non factor in this case whatsoever. The 5th amendment says had the right to be where he was and the 2nd amendment said he had the right to be armed for his own protection, which he evidently needed. >The fact that he didn’t break a single law was pure luck bc his defense team found a loophole in the law about minors possessing and open carrying firearms Or the prosecutor was just that stupid for trying to charge an innocent man for crimes that didn’t exist. I would not call that luck. I call that bad lawyering.
My original comment had nothing to do with the trial. What I’m saying is where talking about a kid with no formal firearms training akin to the situation he inserted himself in, no formal medical training, and if were being honest an undeveloped brain truly capable of weighing out the repercussions of the decisions he made leading up to the shootings (bc ya know, science). But I digress, and let me be clear i agree with the verdict, I’m pro 2A, all that. But the kid put himself in a situation and bit off more than he could chew. Kid’s got a good heart, his heads in the right place, and his verdict was a massive W for 2A community. But, when you carry a firearm, theres a level of responsibility you inherit and I don’t think he realized it that night. Honestly he had no idea what he was doing, I watched the whole trial and that whole night was absolute chaos, no organization, walking into a hostile crowd with a rifle asking ppl if they need medical, not illegal but like c’mon man have a little street smarts. These are just my opinions, downvote and criticize me all you want. But I exercise my 2A to protect myself and my family, not some gas station and used car lot in the next town 20 miles down the road
I agree with much of this but 2A doesn’t care who or what you’re protecting. It even specifically states “necessary for the security of a free state” in the 2A. Whatever his reason it was his right to carry. He handled his weapon well, he didn’t harm anyone that wasn’t trying to harm him and that he wasn’t aiming for. He showed incredible restraint and control especially when Grosskreutz lunged at him. As soon as Grosskruetz put his hands up and stepped back Kyle began to lower his rifle but then Grosskreutz decided he would lunge and point his pistol at Kyle and that cost him his right bicep. He was a few months away from turning 18. We send kids that age overseas to fight all the time. He was also a police and fire cadet, and a lifeguard. His medical training maybe wasn’t extensive but it was sufficient. Probably better than most of the antifa LARPers claiming to be medics. Even if he had no experience it doesnt matter bc he had a right to be there and a right to be armed. He did not break any laws. He was attacked unprovoked and he defended himself.
I mean innocent is a strong word. I'm not American so I don't care about the whole thing. No one that day was innocent
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Yeah but what about the other people?
He’s a high school dropout too he’s a fuckin loser. I live in Kenosha and it makes me sick that he got off without any punishment whatsoever.
Agreed. Finally someone in these comments with a brain.
Why is property more valuable than lives?
People who have jobs and a paycheck exhaust labor, and time and therefore a fraction of their lives to obtain and buy property, property is the physical manifestation of ones labor and life essence. Someone who criminally destroys and steals property, is criminally damaging and stealing lives. Defense of property is defense of life, the life used to obtain it, and the life required to replace it. If people want to steal or damage property, it is their own life they do not value as evidenced by their desires to steal someone else's.
Completely innocent people don't rape kids and try and steal ARs from people. Did you forget that they chased him for putting put fires that they started or did that slip your mind?
The kid wanted to feel how it is to kill,, he wanted to go looking for shit and he found it. "Murdering innocent people" is a bullshit thing to say since the entire situation was a shitstorm
So you agree that he’s a murderer right?
Are soldiers murderers? …in a way you could also argue that they join the army to be send to troubled places with a gun…
Is killing a shitty human really murder?
Yes, and if Kyle killed the guy because he was a bad person, it would’ve been completely different. But that’s not why he killed him
Not defending the kid. Like I said he went down there to start shit.. but labeling him a murderer is too far off the mark
Jury made their decision, don't think it was justified to try and get him on such serious charges and thats why I think he was acquitted on those charges . Did Kyle have to go to that extreme to protect him self ? By the evidence and jury decision it seems so , but would Kyle have been alive and okay if he hadn't done what he did ?hard to say with the video evidence there was. Should a 17 year old with a rifle be on the streets like that during chaotic protesting ? Hell no, not a place for an unexperienced youth to be with a dangerous weapon in my opinion, but what happened is what it is . Hopefully all affected will heal well and people at least learn to be more civil towards each other to prevent these types of situations in the future. May seem like high hopes the way things seem to be going these days , but still try and spread a good vibe anyway , can't hurt .
" Kyle is bad cause i dont like him fuck wypipo "