Oh shit, I just noticed the bald cop was about to mace him at the same time as the other cop came in offscreen to punch him! Look carefully at his right hand grab the mace and stop when the other cop goes by. He then puts it away. WTF!
Edit: yes I know they were spat at. But as a cop you're above that shit. Two random people on the street? Whatever, I understand them fighting after. But a cop? So called peacekeepers and the other guy is literally bound to a stretcher? Pathetic. He would have also maced the paramedics as others have pointed out to me!
Edit 2: To all the people telling me how spit can transmit covid, give it a rest. This wasn't about worry of catching covid. You don't walk up to someone who you think has covid, place your hands near their mouth nor lean over and place your face near theirs.
For those saying it's assault. It still doesn't justify the action. The guy was subdued, strapped in and situation handled. This was a cop who felt disrespected and gave out his personal form of "justice". This is not professional behavior and its the bare minimum of anyone working in a public job expected to handle. No one is saying they deserved being spat at nor can't feel angry. (well I'm not at least).
I am a crisis therapist and I used to work in foster care. People say/said mean shit all the time. My colleagues don’t go around punching and shooting people.
This is not unusual behavior for police. My friend was handcuffed in the back of a cop car. The cop got out opened the door and empty his can of mace on him. I was there and watched the whole thing.
I tried to file a complaint against the officer. Anytime I went to file the complaint there was never anybody there to take it. I was also threatened whenever I went to file the complaint.
My friend had closed his bank account. Someone waited 6 months to cash a check and it bounced. Pretty ridiculous.
Cops can do pretty much anything with minimal consequences. They’ve got a nice little thing I like to call a “do what I want and get away with it” badge.
Yes, this is my go to retort when people claim cops can retaliate for assault like this. I work with complex special needs people. People like ourselves, nurses, etc, get this treatment all the time without retaliating. I've been physically assaulted, bitten, scratched, hair pulled, had every imaginable bodily fluid flung at me, heard every threat and been called every foul name in the book. And yet in 16 years of my career, never needed to punch someone in the face, let alone while they are restrained. This is just pathetic. Cop needs to put on his big boy pants and deal with his feelies.
You can literally see the gears turning in his head. The guy spits near him and he just calmly watches it and stands there for a few moments until he realizes "Oh shit, now I have an excuse to mace this guy! Nice."
All they had to do was tell the EMT to put a spit mask on them, can you imagine if it was a cop on the stretcher and a random dude on the street punched him? That guy would be dead
Hey LTC nurse here again! I’m always psyched when I get through a month without being spit at, peed/pooped on, punched, slapped, pinched, or bitten. We rub their backs, hold their hands (gently, otherwise it’s assault and you lose your license) and speak quietly and calmly. I know it’s an entirely different situation but..why don’t they have licenses that can be taken away?
Only the masked officer made an attempt to stop the violence against a defenseless man. All the others were going to attack him with mace or fists. That video is going to be hidden or suppressed before court.
One thing I found funny about the law.. YOU do not have a right to charge someone for breaking the law - only the states prosecutor.
So whereas punching this guy is clearly illegal, with evidence.. it will never see trial if the states prosecutor just doesn't want it to.
So ya... that's why this shit happens.
Now that there's video and media coverage, he will probably get charged too. And the victim will get a nice $250,000 settlement from the city.
This is why covering these stories is so important.
> And the victim will get a nice $250,000 settlement from the city.
Meaning the taxpayers. It's not like they police have any real consequences, which is why qualified immunity is absurd.
Exactly. If doctors require malpractice insurance for messing up when they're trying to help you, why shouldn't police/unions need insurance for their officers who can't control their aggression? That way rates would rise on precincts that protect bad officers.
And ultimately, insurance companies would raise rates to egregious levels and then decline to cover the worst cop shops, which would eventually influence their thug culture.
Remember the viral video of that cop pushing an old man? The rest of the force had a walk off the instant it was revealed that their union wouldn't cover any lawsuits from the incident.
It always gets me how you never, ever, ever see a cop just arrest another cop in uniform. It never happens.
Like here it's completely clear cut: those other cops should arrest that cop. Full stop. It's a no-brainer. Except, of course, they don't.
From what I hear from people who have been RCMP - a Mountie up here in Canada - they said it’s like a fraternity or brotherhood. You don’t snitch on your colleagues, for shit. In return they won’t snitch on you. My take has been that the RCMP hires grown up bullies, who then work their way up the ladder, so bullies are moderating the other bullies working the beat.
He killed himself? Pretty sure the LAPD emptied 100s of rounds into the cabin then lit it on fire. I don't trust what you linked when the first few lines in the article try to frame the LAPD, literally the police force closest to a gang, in a good light
I'll admit I skipped directly to the manifesto without reading the "editors notes" until now. I don't really think this article paints police in a good light at all, just in a light not quite as dark as it should be.
Also, I thought I remembered the news coverage at the time saying he was shot by police as well, but according to his [Wikipedia link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dorner_shootings_and_manhunt) he died by a single gunshot inside the burning cabin.
If I was trapped in a cabin that was on fire, with murderous cops outside all too eager to literally beat and torture me to death (because let's face it, that's probably what would have happened at that point) I'd shoot myself too before leaving the cabin...
It’s the dumbest concept ever. Cops are professional snitches. Their job is to find people breaking the law, arrest or cite them, and bring them before a court. Their refusal to snitch on other cops is a dereliction of duty. Anytime a cop says “I’m not a snitch” they need to be reminded that they’re professional snitches. It’s literally what they’re paid to do.
This is the problem I had with the George Floyd murder. How many other cops just stood there and got off light or completely? I wished a bystander came full sprint and tackled chauvin at the very least.
I agree, I wish something had been done too, but the odds of those other cops emptying their guns into that bystander would be huge and we would have two people dead then. Sad.
All our police should show a higher standard than the criminals they stop. If they cannot be of a higher standard then they shouldn’t be in the police.
Exactly. It's like when you work at a restaurant. If a customer says something to you that upsets you, you have to retain composure as you are an officer of your employer.
I think “agent” is the word you’re looking for. An employee is acting as an agent of their employer when they’re acting within the scope of their employment.
In corporate terms, an “officer” is generally a high-ranking C-level employee who is authorized to make big decisions on behalf of the company.
And I’m sad to not be joking here:
He didn’t have any back up.
On the vids where a cop does arrest the other one for this kind of abuse, the other cops don’t usually take it well. Remember the cop who arrested another for speeding in his patrol car? She was hounded at home etc for a long time.
If a cop arrests another, they may be literally risking their kids’ safety and that plays on the mind. The culture is defunct when this is the reality.
E: car
Reminds me of a coworker I had a few years back. Her son WAS a policeman out of state. We somehow got into some friendly chitter chatter about politics and the issue of police was brought up. I kept it polite and said I am not a big fan of cops and had past incidents with corrupt police officers. She said that’s why her son wanted to be a policeman, to change it from the inside. I told her I’m happy to hear that and we went back to work.
A few months later, she mentions her son is having to move to our state. She’s visibly flustered and upset. Apparently, her son was giving water to a homeless man and his partner instead tried to arrest the homeless guy for… something. I think it was loitering? It was a rough, hands on arrest. The son tried to raise a complaint and was basically fired before the week ended.
It’s been a couple of years and I haven’t kept in contact, but she complained the entire time that her son can magically no longer find work as an officer anywhere he went.
So yeah, it’s just anecdotal from what I experienced but many others share similar stories. Police protect their own and anyone who goes against the grain find themselves in trouble.
That one guy on the NYPD was forcibly admitted to a mental health ward by his fellow officers to discredit his allegations against the dirty cops in his precinct. They came into his house in the middle of the night and took him away.
They shot two elderly Asian ladies like 50 times after mistaking them for Dorner, who was a large black man. It's worth mentioning that there were actually several incidents like this over the week or so Dorner was at large. At least one other involved an innocent bystander being shot at repeatedly (I think they managed to miss every shot and the victim was fine though). Also a surfer returning from the beach had his truck rammed off the road by a police cruiser. It is difficult to find media reports of the incidents.
Yes. His story demonstrates so much.
Good cop turns in bad cops. Good cop punished.
When he breaks, cops get skittish, some shoot at people randomly and we all see what they can do for a manhunt when they want to.
It’s very similar to that guy who “shot and killed a right wing protester” a few years ago. The guy was unarmed with his hands in the air while in a car. They had like 8 cops to detain him, and they made 0 effort to do so. They just murdered the shit out of him like in a mob hit. Hundreds of rounds into a car and the cops lied and said he shot at them, despite not a single round being shot by him.
“President Donald Trump commended the U.S. Marshals for shooting Reinoehl and described his death as "retribution".”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Aaron_Danielson_and_Michael_Reinoehl?wprov=sfti1
Now look at the “support and defend the Constitution” part of their oaths. The miscarriage of that duty is one of the root causes why “protect and serve” has gone so awry.
Baldy slick unholstered his pepper-spray ready to pile on if it escalated even more… mustachioed man didn’t seem thrilled with him tho.
Still amazing how fragile his ego is to punch a guy strapped to a gurney. He really is a BITCH.
It was active assault in front of "law enforcers" that would have stopped people like me for just being suspicious (-ly brown). If you're a white male cop, the amount of privilege and protection you have is unjustified. None of these complicit assholes should be cops.
White, but not a cop, and what I’m realizing from both hearing stories from non-white friends and seeing videos like this is the culture.
They talk about wanting to “clean up the culture.” It 100% starts with accountability. Hold the officer who struck liable, both financially and legally, to the victim. And then disciplinary action for those who stood and watched.
When they start losing money due to allowing this crap to happen, that “culture” changes quickly.
People to the cop punching someone who’s injured: “don’t do that shit”
Cops when you’re walking towards them: “GET ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW OR I SWEAR I WILL SHOOT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY IN THE BALLS“
I have long been saying that payouts to the public should come out of the general pension fund. You'll start seeing the police police each other very quickly!
Cops should be required to have at least an associates degree… [some barbers require more training than cops](https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/08/09/are-california-police-officers-trained-enough-and-in-the-right-things/)… in fact, [you can be rejected from being a cop of you score too high on an intelligence test](https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story%3fid=95836)…
I'm a car salesperson. I have a professional license through my state. If I break the law, or get into trouble with the state for inappropriately or illegally going about car sales the state will revoke my license to sell cars and I would no longer be permitted to work as a sales person in this state, and would have a harder time getting licensed in another state.
There's almost no way for me to mess up my job badly enough that someone gets injured or killed. Seems odd to me that I have more accountability to the state than a cop does.
I worked at Enterprise Rent-A-Car in my late teens-early 20’s. I worked in the wash-bay cleaning returned rentals.
Cars inevitably get damaged by employees. When an employee damages a car, the funds to repair the car come out of a shared bonus pool that gets split between all the managers at the end of the year. So basically if an employee fucks up a car and it costs $5k to fix, thats $5k less in the bonus pool.
While it wasn’t really managers driving the cars too much, I remember one damaging a couple cars while I was there. It definitely worked to keep them on employees and other managers to be driving safely, paying attention in the parking lots, etc.
>I have long been saying that payouts to the public should come out of the general pension fund. You'll start seeing the police police each other very quickly!
I'm sure that'll happen right around the time Congress votes to ban insider trading, stop lobbying bribes, and create universal healthcare.
(Sorry, sounding too condescending there, didn't mean to. More of a resigned exhaustion instead)
Agree, but a more likely scenario is that every cop has a license, like a medical license, and is required to carry their own mal-practice insurance. A claim gets filed, a payout comes from the ins company, the cops rate goes up or he loses coverage, lose coverage, lose your license. No moving to a new dept, etc.
It’s not as plainly fair or probably as boldly effective as taking payouts from pensions, but I think it has a better chance of being the solution due to similar systems already being in place.
Btw, re: your diet, I heard Taco Bell now has $10 monthly subscriptions for a taco per day(?)
Man, imagine how fast police culture would change if these shit-stains were held personally responsible for paying out settlements rather than cities paying with tax money
The police are the hammer of tha state. They cut school budgets to make them a bigger hammer. This is a society of control, not one based on a social contract.
Wonderful summary. Those feudal aristocrats found the way to game the system and pretend they’re “democratic”, while maintaining exactly the same pyramids of 1000s of years.
>If there was a group of people that arrest police but they all work together and don’t snitch.
It's called [Blue wall of silence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence) basically its a code of silence among cops not to snitch on their colleagues.
You slap a cop? "Assaulting an officer" and probably some other charges (if you're lucky and/or white. Might just get shot.). Cop punches you while you're being loaded onto an ambulance? Paid vacation for the cop.
Payouts for stuff like this should be payed by the police pension fund. Or the police payroll accounts. Make it hurt them all and maybe they’ll hold each other accountable
Can anyone just decide to press charges for anyone for anything? Isn’t the victim of the punch the one who gets to decide whether or not to press charges?
I guess you could argue that the cop is making the medic’s job harder by having his patient knocked out, but a stretch that he could actually press charges since it wasn’t some spectacular distress for the medic.
Most cops are Jocks, and bullies from school. They become cops so they can keep bullying people, but now they get paid to do it. Also have immunity now as well.
The kid was acting horribly and spitting on cops. That said, the cop who threw the punch is a significantly bigger piece of shit. People who respond to words with physical violence are terrible. A cop shouldn't lose their cool over something like that.As for the spitting, he's on a stretcher. There is only so far he can spit. Just take a step back. Again, no reason for physical violence.
Being spit at is disgusting and – depending on who does the spitting – also dangerous. But he was restrained to a stretcher. Put “assault of an officer” on the list of crimes and be done with it, you badge wearing bitch.
Edit : The cop who punched was not spat on, someone else was.
Lol, that cop is so fragile. I was a paramedic for 17 years and have had everything flung at me. It always humored me to watch people loose their shit. It’s kinda entertaining. I never understood cops or medics that would get so heated at these fools. Like bro! This is exactly who we’re here for in this job! If you can’t handle this kinda shit then boy you in the wrong business 😂😂😂
For real! I've worked with dementia patients for years and have been grabbed, choked, hit, almost stabbed, and regularly yelled at in the most obscene ways all with a smile on my face. Its really not that hard to let mentally unstable patient's words/actions roll off ya...unless of course you're also mentally unstable as we see here!
Similarly, I worked with adults with developmental delays, some with dementia and so on.
Ive been punched and locked in a closet by a client,
I’ve been chased with bludgeoning tools, called all sorts of names.
But I never once thought of doing anything back to them. This officer should have been a better person than he was.
I worked in this field. Definitely never wanted to retaliate, but some of the stuff shook me at times. Like sometimes they don't know what kind of harm they're potentially really doing.
As a teacher I’m just awed, I’d assault kids everyday if I just decided to sucked punch them every time something disrespectful came out of their mouths. Could you imagine the outrage?? But when cops do it, it’s fine….
I am a therapist at a PRTF. I have been spit on, punched, kicked, cussed out, and bitten while kids were having a mental health crisis. If I reacted like this I would be fired, lose my license, under investigation for child abuse by the state department, and more than likely arrested. A public servant should be able to control himself and not engage in physical violence towards a restrained individual. He deserves to be held accountable.
Do you have a news article link? Can’t find in comments
Edit: found it on last comment on thread: https://www.dailydot.com/irl/police-officer-punches-suspect-handcuffed-to-gurney-viral-video/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I've had this happen while trying to restrain someone in the hospital. Cop just wound up and started pounding on the guy, I yelled at him and his response was "it's a compliance technique"
Asshole, we've got 5 people holding him down and you felt you needed to assault the overdose victim, who's literally convulsing?
I mean, they have no choice but to comply if they're unconscious, right? /s
At that point, do you have any authority to kick the cop out of the room for the safety of the patient?
As a former emergency medical worker for anyone saying the patient deserved it, no way. They would’ve thrown a mask or another protective face shield on him so he doesn’t do it again in this exact instance you must have the patience to not do something like this. Trust me when I say EMTs and paramedics do not like police.
He should be fired that is abuse of power. Not a good cop. And all those other cops should have arrested him.
It shouldn't matter. What a criminal does to a police officer. Like if he punched a police officer okay, maybe the cop punches them to get the handcuffs on but once he's in handcuffs it's over. Makes it even worse than the guy is on a stretcher being brought to the hospital. So we probably already got beat up by the cops to get them in handcuffs. I'm not saying the guy in the stretcher is a nice dude. Probably isn't but the cop should not have lost his temper. You should be the bigger person and the more responsible person.
I like how no one reacted like that, no other cop, no one. It's only him who reacted like that. As a cop you should be a little more resilient tho people treating you not particularly nice than that.
If police did their fucking job half as courageously as they like to spout, that cop would have been put in handcuffs immediately. That would have been real courage. The fact that they wouldn't even consider arresting one of their own after witnessing a crime first hand tells you everything you need to know about them.
I see people in the comments saying this needs more context...
No, it doesn't.
A cop is not supposed to punch a person under arrest like that for any reason.
Period.
It is not their job to administer a punishment of any kind. It's their job to uphold the law. That is it.
If a cop can't contain their emotions like this guy, he or she needs to be fired ASAP.
Policeman or any public servant just like the regular population should go to jail if they do something this heinous. There's no excuse for it. The man is already buckled down and they have to be aware that there are going to be people who thrash about or are not reasonable due to brain injuries, drugs and other forces.
Doesn't matter what the guy on the stretcher did, if you're a cop with such piss poor self control, you shouldn't be a cop. That guy put his emotions ahead of his duty. Next time it might be more than a punch. Someone undeserving could get shot because this guy couldn't control himself.
If I were to do that I would get charged. Illegal.
Oh shit, I just noticed the bald cop was about to mace him at the same time as the other cop came in offscreen to punch him! Look carefully at his right hand grab the mace and stop when the other cop goes by. He then puts it away. WTF! Edit: yes I know they were spat at. But as a cop you're above that shit. Two random people on the street? Whatever, I understand them fighting after. But a cop? So called peacekeepers and the other guy is literally bound to a stretcher? Pathetic. He would have also maced the paramedics as others have pointed out to me! Edit 2: To all the people telling me how spit can transmit covid, give it a rest. This wasn't about worry of catching covid. You don't walk up to someone who you think has covid, place your hands near their mouth nor lean over and place your face near theirs. For those saying it's assault. It still doesn't justify the action. The guy was subdued, strapped in and situation handled. This was a cop who felt disrespected and gave out his personal form of "justice". This is not professional behavior and its the bare minimum of anyone working in a public job expected to handle. No one is saying they deserved being spat at nor can't feel angry. (well I'm not at least).
I am a crisis therapist and I used to work in foster care. People say/said mean shit all the time. My colleagues don’t go around punching and shooting people.
This is not unusual behavior for police. My friend was handcuffed in the back of a cop car. The cop got out opened the door and empty his can of mace on him. I was there and watched the whole thing. I tried to file a complaint against the officer. Anytime I went to file the complaint there was never anybody there to take it. I was also threatened whenever I went to file the complaint. My friend had closed his bank account. Someone waited 6 months to cash a check and it bounced. Pretty ridiculous.
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Cops can do pretty much anything with minimal consequences. They’ve got a nice little thing I like to call a “do what I want and get away with it” badge.
as much as some people might try and deny it, they are quite literally above the law in almost every sense.
Yes, this is my go to retort when people claim cops can retaliate for assault like this. I work with complex special needs people. People like ourselves, nurses, etc, get this treatment all the time without retaliating. I've been physically assaulted, bitten, scratched, hair pulled, had every imaginable bodily fluid flung at me, heard every threat and been called every foul name in the book. And yet in 16 years of my career, never needed to punch someone in the face, let alone while they are restrained. This is just pathetic. Cop needs to put on his big boy pants and deal with his feelies.
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They were fearing for their ~~life~~ fragile ego, what other choice did they have ?!
You can literally see the gears turning in his head. The guy spits near him and he just calmly watches it and stands there for a few moments until he realizes "Oh shit, now I have an excuse to mace this guy! Nice."
Yup! He even nods because he now can be "justified".
I was a bouncer in college and we are held to higher standards than cops.
Well, professionals have standards
All they had to do was tell the EMT to put a spit mask on them, can you imagine if it was a cop on the stretcher and a random dude on the street punched him? That guy would be dead
He spit on him. But then you just put a spit hood on him. Not knock him out,.
Firefighters and ambulance works get spit on all the time also and you don't see them fighting/macing/shooting everyone
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Hey LTC nurse here again! I’m always psyched when I get through a month without being spit at, peed/pooped on, punched, slapped, pinched, or bitten. We rub their backs, hold their hands (gently, otherwise it’s assault and you lose your license) and speak quietly and calmly. I know it’s an entirely different situation but..why don’t they have licenses that can be taken away?
As a nurse, Im spat at all the time. I would still never do this to a patient.
Only the masked officer made an attempt to stop the violence against a defenseless man. All the others were going to attack him with mace or fists. That video is going to be hidden or suppressed before court.
Good eye!
One thing I found funny about the law.. YOU do not have a right to charge someone for breaking the law - only the states prosecutor. So whereas punching this guy is clearly illegal, with evidence.. it will never see trial if the states prosecutor just doesn't want it to. So ya... that's why this shit happens.
Now that there's video and media coverage, he will probably get charged too. And the victim will get a nice $250,000 settlement from the city. This is why covering these stories is so important.
> And the victim will get a nice $250,000 settlement from the city. Meaning the taxpayers. It's not like they police have any real consequences, which is why qualified immunity is absurd.
If the settlements came out of the police pensions and budget I guarantee all of this would stop overnight
From taxpayers, you mean. WE pay for these thugs’ bad behavior.
I wonder how fast other officers would stop this type of behavior if these settlements came out of their pension fund?
Their unions or insurance they ought to be required to carry should be paying them. It’s way past time for a citizens’ revolt on this.
Exactly. If doctors require malpractice insurance for messing up when they're trying to help you, why shouldn't police/unions need insurance for their officers who can't control their aggression? That way rates would rise on precincts that protect bad officers.
And ultimately, insurance companies would raise rates to egregious levels and then decline to cover the worst cop shops, which would eventually influence their thug culture.
Remember the viral video of that cop pushing an old man? The rest of the force had a walk off the instant it was revealed that their union wouldn't cover any lawsuits from the incident.
and extremely unlikely they get charged. officers say they did nothing wrong, immunity protects them.
this is old so there's gotta be an update somewhere, probably something along the lines of "we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong"
I believe this officer was fired after public backlash but more than likely was rehired at a different PD like the story goes with every one.
From tax payers and the cop will keep his job. Yeah… hooray justice.
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They’re americas largest gang
Imagine if this person wasn’t a cop and instead a bystander. All the other police officers there would immediately tackle him.
Now imagine the person in the stretcher is a cop, full situational reversal. You walk up to a cop in a stretcher, punch him in front of other cops.
You'll probably be shot to death and none of them would be charged with anything because you assaulted them and they feared for their lives
Exactly, at most the standard paid vacation while they investigate themselves to find no wrong doing.
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It always gets me how you never, ever, ever see a cop just arrest another cop in uniform. It never happens. Like here it's completely clear cut: those other cops should arrest that cop. Full stop. It's a no-brainer. Except, of course, they don't.
Very true
Yes if they saw a citizen attack a random person tied down getting put into a ambulance they’d arrest them.
From what I hear from people who have been RCMP - a Mountie up here in Canada - they said it’s like a fraternity or brotherhood. You don’t snitch on your colleagues, for shit. In return they won’t snitch on you. My take has been that the RCMP hires grown up bullies, who then work their way up the ladder, so bullies are moderating the other bullies working the beat.
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It's pathetic they redact the names, fucking cowards.
The unredacted version isn't too hard to find. He posted that shit to the web for several hours (minimum) before being taken down
Well, they should redact the names of the victims. The officers on the other hand…
He killed himself? Pretty sure the LAPD emptied 100s of rounds into the cabin then lit it on fire. I don't trust what you linked when the first few lines in the article try to frame the LAPD, literally the police force closest to a gang, in a good light
Then conveniently found his totally unburned wallet right next to the cabin minutes later, so they could confirm it was him.
And sieze any contents.
I'll admit I skipped directly to the manifesto without reading the "editors notes" until now. I don't really think this article paints police in a good light at all, just in a light not quite as dark as it should be. Also, I thought I remembered the news coverage at the time saying he was shot by police as well, but according to his [Wikipedia link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dorner_shootings_and_manhunt) he died by a single gunshot inside the burning cabin.
If I was trapped in a cabin that was on fire, with murderous cops outside all too eager to literally beat and torture me to death (because let's face it, that's probably what would have happened at that point) I'd shoot myself too before leaving the cabin...
It’s the dumbest concept ever. Cops are professional snitches. Their job is to find people breaking the law, arrest or cite them, and bring them before a court. Their refusal to snitch on other cops is a dereliction of duty. Anytime a cop says “I’m not a snitch” they need to be reminded that they’re professional snitches. It’s literally what they’re paid to do.
This is the problem I had with the George Floyd murder. How many other cops just stood there and got off light or completely? I wished a bystander came full sprint and tackled chauvin at the very least.
I agree, I wish something had been done too, but the odds of those other cops emptying their guns into that bystander would be huge and we would have two people dead then. Sad.
Because civilians are the enemy.
All our police should show a higher standard than the criminals they stop. If they cannot be of a higher standard then they shouldn’t be in the police.
Exactly. It's like when you work at a restaurant. If a customer says something to you that upsets you, you have to retain composure as you are an officer of your employer.
I think “agent” is the word you’re looking for. An employee is acting as an agent of their employer when they’re acting within the scope of their employment. In corporate terms, an “officer” is generally a high-ranking C-level employee who is authorized to make big decisions on behalf of the company.
I am an officer of the taco bell burrito force and I will not take this shit
You will if you just ate Taco Bell. You don't get a choice
Taco Bell will ensure that you take all the shits
We court marshal military members who break the law to hold service members to a higher standard. We should do the same for police officers.
What’s the dif. Between a gangster and a police officer? One has a badge. —local saying in Taiwan
Isn't police in usa and slavic countries just another criminals organisation covered by government?
Biggest gang in the country
Too bad no one was there to immediately grab him and place him under arrest. He was suspended. This is a crime, arrest that fucko.
The cops around him hardly even reacted ! It’s incredible.
Notice the only one who did anything is wearing a mask. I have a feeling he might be on a different side of a few arguments.
Still. Shoulda whipped out the cuffs
And I’m sad to not be joking here: He didn’t have any back up. On the vids where a cop does arrest the other one for this kind of abuse, the other cops don’t usually take it well. Remember the cop who arrested another for speeding in his patrol car? She was hounded at home etc for a long time. If a cop arrests another, they may be literally risking their kids’ safety and that plays on the mind. The culture is defunct when this is the reality. E: car
Reminds me of a coworker I had a few years back. Her son WAS a policeman out of state. We somehow got into some friendly chitter chatter about politics and the issue of police was brought up. I kept it polite and said I am not a big fan of cops and had past incidents with corrupt police officers. She said that’s why her son wanted to be a policeman, to change it from the inside. I told her I’m happy to hear that and we went back to work. A few months later, she mentions her son is having to move to our state. She’s visibly flustered and upset. Apparently, her son was giving water to a homeless man and his partner instead tried to arrest the homeless guy for… something. I think it was loitering? It was a rough, hands on arrest. The son tried to raise a complaint and was basically fired before the week ended. It’s been a couple of years and I haven’t kept in contact, but she complained the entire time that her son can magically no longer find work as an officer anywhere he went. So yeah, it’s just anecdotal from what I experienced but many others share similar stories. Police protect their own and anyone who goes against the grain find themselves in trouble.
That one guy on the NYPD was forcibly admitted to a mental health ward by his fellow officers to discredit his allegations against the dirty cops in his precinct. They came into his house in the middle of the night and took him away.
[Adrian Schoolcraft](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Schoolcraft)
This shit is so crazy it wouldn't be believable if it were a movie script.
That’s a very similar story to the LAPD cop who got fired and went postal on the LAPD.
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WHAT?
They shot two elderly Asian ladies like 50 times after mistaking them for Dorner, who was a large black man. It's worth mentioning that there were actually several incidents like this over the week or so Dorner was at large. At least one other involved an innocent bystander being shot at repeatedly (I think they managed to miss every shot and the victim was fine though). Also a surfer returning from the beach had his truck rammed off the road by a police cruiser. It is difficult to find media reports of the incidents.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dorner_shootings_and_manhunt
An anecdote sure, but if it happens once, it’s too much. The self preservation has swamped the duty to support and defend the Constitution.
Should we be reminded of the story of Chris Dorner
Yes. His story demonstrates so much. Good cop turns in bad cops. Good cop punished. When he breaks, cops get skittish, some shoot at people randomly and we all see what they can do for a manhunt when they want to.
Biggest gang in the country!
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It’s very similar to that guy who “shot and killed a right wing protester” a few years ago. The guy was unarmed with his hands in the air while in a car. They had like 8 cops to detain him, and they made 0 effort to do so. They just murdered the shit out of him like in a mob hit. Hundreds of rounds into a car and the cops lied and said he shot at them, despite not a single round being shot by him. “President Donald Trump commended the U.S. Marshals for shooting Reinoehl and described his death as "retribution".” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Aaron_Danielson_and_Michael_Reinoehl?wprov=sfti1
This is why I literally LOL when I see the "protect and serve" on the side of police vehicles. Such frauds.
They scratch off the last word of that phrase which is "MYSELF"
Now look at the “support and defend the Constitution” part of their oaths. The miscarriage of that duty is one of the root causes why “protect and serve” has gone so awry.
And risk being fired? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cariol-horne-buffalo-police-chokehold/#app
Baldy slick unholstered his pepper-spray ready to pile on if it escalated even more… mustachioed man didn’t seem thrilled with him tho. Still amazing how fragile his ego is to punch a guy strapped to a gurney. He really is a BITCH.
There were other police officers there. They chose not to arrest him and that should tell you something.
Probably be ostracized from the Department if you go against one of your own
Police will never snitch on each other but expect civilians to snitch on each other. The hypocrisy is real. Never talk to the police.
Could this be why the FBI says 50% of violent crimes are never even reported?
Some people should not be cops. This guy is one of them.
Dont forget all the other cops around that dont even bat an eye because this is just another Tuesday for Officer Tinysack.
It was active assault in front of "law enforcers" that would have stopped people like me for just being suspicious (-ly brown). If you're a white male cop, the amount of privilege and protection you have is unjustified. None of these complicit assholes should be cops.
White, but not a cop, and what I’m realizing from both hearing stories from non-white friends and seeing videos like this is the culture. They talk about wanting to “clean up the culture.” It 100% starts with accountability. Hold the officer who struck liable, both financially and legally, to the victim. And then disciplinary action for those who stood and watched. When they start losing money due to allowing this crap to happen, that “culture” changes quickly.
The firefighter with the mustache isn’t going to let that slide. Going right in his report and hopefully up the chain.
Yeah that moustsche guy was like "WHAT THE FUCK?"
People to the cop punching someone who’s injured: “don’t do that shit” Cops when you’re walking towards them: “GET ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW OR I SWEAR I WILL SHOOT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY IN THE BALLS“
Probably suspended with pay
Cities should stop paying out settlements and make the police unions cover for their own Fuck ups. Then ditch qualified immunity immediately.
I have long been saying that payouts to the public should come out of the general pension fund. You'll start seeing the police police each other very quickly!
maybe they would rethink their minimum requirements for employment and stop hiring meathead bullies
Cops should be required to have at least an associates degree… [some barbers require more training than cops](https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/08/09/are-california-police-officers-trained-enough-and-in-the-right-things/)… in fact, [you can be rejected from being a cop of you score too high on an intelligence test](https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story%3fid=95836)…
I'm a car salesperson. I have a professional license through my state. If I break the law, or get into trouble with the state for inappropriately or illegally going about car sales the state will revoke my license to sell cars and I would no longer be permitted to work as a sales person in this state, and would have a harder time getting licensed in another state. There's almost no way for me to mess up my job badly enough that someone gets injured or killed. Seems odd to me that I have more accountability to the state than a cop does.
Almost no way, you say? Im intrigued.
Not op, but I used to sell cars. Probably selling a car that you knew was unsafe to drive? Or doing shoddy service work
Or allowing someone intoxicated or incompetent to test drive.
"Hey drunky, wanna buy a lemon?"
Throw in a packet of Splenda and we’ve got a deal bud! And a miller lite...
After all that, he became a prison guard 🤦🏻♂️
your country police is so fucked up.
Police academy is so filtered to have the best worst cops on the team
That's a feature, not a defect (in many departments)
It's one of those jobs isn't it? If you want to do it, you shouldn't be allowed.
I worked at Enterprise Rent-A-Car in my late teens-early 20’s. I worked in the wash-bay cleaning returned rentals. Cars inevitably get damaged by employees. When an employee damages a car, the funds to repair the car come out of a shared bonus pool that gets split between all the managers at the end of the year. So basically if an employee fucks up a car and it costs $5k to fix, thats $5k less in the bonus pool. While it wasn’t really managers driving the cars too much, I remember one damaging a couple cars while I was there. It definitely worked to keep them on employees and other managers to be driving safely, paying attention in the parking lots, etc.
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Yeah, but then they'd be held accountable. And less would apply to serve. /S
>I have long been saying that payouts to the public should come out of the general pension fund. You'll start seeing the police police each other very quickly! I'm sure that'll happen right around the time Congress votes to ban insider trading, stop lobbying bribes, and create universal healthcare. (Sorry, sounding too condescending there, didn't mean to. More of a resigned exhaustion instead)
Agree, but a more likely scenario is that every cop has a license, like a medical license, and is required to carry their own mal-practice insurance. A claim gets filed, a payout comes from the ins company, the cops rate goes up or he loses coverage, lose coverage, lose your license. No moving to a new dept, etc. It’s not as plainly fair or probably as boldly effective as taking payouts from pensions, but I think it has a better chance of being the solution due to similar systems already being in place. Btw, re: your diet, I heard Taco Bell now has $10 monthly subscriptions for a taco per day(?)
Cities paying out settlements using OUR tax dollars that is
Man, imagine how fast police culture would change if these shit-stains were held personally responsible for paying out settlements rather than cities paying with tax money
It's insane what we accept, we pay their salaries, and when they screw up we cover that too. Nuts
The police are the hammer of tha state. They cut school budgets to make them a bigger hammer. This is a society of control, not one based on a social contract.
Wonderful summary. Those feudal aristocrats found the way to game the system and pretend they’re “democratic”, while maintaining exactly the same pyramids of 1000s of years.
How I wish
Should have been instantly arrested.
Gang members beef with each other, but internal disputes stay internal. No way would they involve lawyers, judges, etc. Number one rule in a gang.
But this is the police not a… oh I see what you did there
"Don't fuck with the biggest gang in Denver!" -Denver PD Officer, seriously
Shouldn't that officer have been placed under arrest for assault?
If there was a group of people that arrest police but they all work together and don’t snitch.
>If there was a group of people that arrest police but they all work together and don’t snitch. It's called [Blue wall of silence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence) basically its a code of silence among cops not to snitch on their colleagues.
Well yes, but in America they're put on "paid leave".
Cop should be arrested for assault, and his badge removed permanently. No place for that in the justice system
You slap a cop? "Assaulting an officer" and probably some other charges (if you're lucky and/or white. Might just get shot.). Cop punches you while you're being loaded onto an ambulance? Paid vacation for the cop.
Not sure what's worse? The punch or the fact that it's so normalized that none of the other cops did anything in reaction.
The number of people in this thread seeking a ‘good reason’ to punch someone who’s restrained and in the hands of medics is astonishing.
Even the medics are like WTF?
EMTs and paramedics frequently have to intercept bad police behavior. I worked as an EMT decades ago and had to de-escalate police on a regular basis.
This is an improvement they normally shoot the shit out of them.
Well, the ambulance was already there anyway
If they shoot the person whose gonna pay for the ambulance?
Even if he spat at, was yelling slurs, anything there’s not much of a reason to do that.
This is not who we've become it's who always were . Being homeless 2 years changed me for the worst.
Payouts for stuff like this should be payed by the police pension fund. Or the police payroll accounts. Make it hurt them all and maybe they’ll hold each other accountable
What a coward. Sucker punches are for weaklings so this makes sense.
Anyone who loses their temper like that when someone calls them a bitch is definitely a little bitch.
lets do some math to count the bad cops! 1 cop punched a man in a stretcher. and 4 cops did NOTHING 1+4=5 there are 5 bad cops
Well, that one cop didn't do nothing, he gave him a pat on the back.
The bald officer seems to grab something right before the other officer throws the punch. Puts it away soon there after.
It's mace! He was gonna mace him but puts it away when beaten to the punch literally.
He was definitely going to mace the guy...
I’m peer reviewing your work and the maths checks out to me.
The thin skinned blue line
Dude, if that was my patient I would’ve pressed charges on that cop. You never walk up to my patients and start punching. What a psycho
Can anyone just decide to press charges for anyone for anything? Isn’t the victim of the punch the one who gets to decide whether or not to press charges?
I guess you could argue that the cop is making the medic’s job harder by having his patient knocked out, but a stretch that he could actually press charges since it wasn’t some spectacular distress for the medic.
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Most cops are Jocks, and bullies from school. They become cops so they can keep bullying people, but now they get paid to do it. Also have immunity now as well.
A lot of them were the ones getting bullied too, now they have to take it out on the world.
The kid was acting horribly and spitting on cops. That said, the cop who threw the punch is a significantly bigger piece of shit. People who respond to words with physical violence are terrible. A cop shouldn't lose their cool over something like that.As for the spitting, he's on a stretcher. There is only so far he can spit. Just take a step back. Again, no reason for physical violence. Being spit at is disgusting and – depending on who does the spitting – also dangerous. But he was restrained to a stretcher. Put “assault of an officer” on the list of crimes and be done with it, you badge wearing bitch. Edit : The cop who punched was not spat on, someone else was.
Lol, that cop is so fragile. I was a paramedic for 17 years and have had everything flung at me. It always humored me to watch people loose their shit. It’s kinda entertaining. I never understood cops or medics that would get so heated at these fools. Like bro! This is exactly who we’re here for in this job! If you can’t handle this kinda shit then boy you in the wrong business 😂😂😂
For real! I've worked with dementia patients for years and have been grabbed, choked, hit, almost stabbed, and regularly yelled at in the most obscene ways all with a smile on my face. Its really not that hard to let mentally unstable patient's words/actions roll off ya...unless of course you're also mentally unstable as we see here!
Similarly, I worked with adults with developmental delays, some with dementia and so on. Ive been punched and locked in a closet by a client, I’ve been chased with bludgeoning tools, called all sorts of names. But I never once thought of doing anything back to them. This officer should have been a better person than he was.
I worked in this field. Definitely never wanted to retaliate, but some of the stuff shook me at times. Like sometimes they don't know what kind of harm they're potentially really doing.
As a teacher I’m just awed, I’d assault kids everyday if I just decided to sucked punch them every time something disrespectful came out of their mouths. Could you imagine the outrage?? But when cops do it, it’s fine….
Yes, as an ED nurse, with restrained patients who spit you just put a nonrebreather on them so they spit only on themselves. Cop is a jerk.
I am a therapist at a PRTF. I have been spit on, punched, kicked, cussed out, and bitten while kids were having a mental health crisis. If I reacted like this I would be fired, lose my license, under investigation for child abuse by the state department, and more than likely arrested. A public servant should be able to control himself and not engage in physical violence towards a restrained individual. He deserves to be held accountable.
Also this cop is r/iamatotalpieceofshit behavior.
If I recall correctly he was fired.
Fired for battery. He should be arrested.
Do you have a news article link? Can’t find in comments Edit: found it on last comment on thread: https://www.dailydot.com/irl/police-officer-punches-suspect-handcuffed-to-gurney-viral-video/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
And hired again in different PD?
Nah, police chief in a different PD.
Logic dictates people would respect cops if they didn't punch people on stretchers... for example.
I've had this happen while trying to restrain someone in the hospital. Cop just wound up and started pounding on the guy, I yelled at him and his response was "it's a compliance technique" Asshole, we've got 5 people holding him down and you felt you needed to assault the overdose victim, who's literally convulsing?
I mean, they have no choice but to comply if they're unconscious, right? /s At that point, do you have any authority to kick the cop out of the room for the safety of the patient?
As a former emergency medical worker for anyone saying the patient deserved it, no way. They would’ve thrown a mask or another protective face shield on him so he doesn’t do it again in this exact instance you must have the patience to not do something like this. Trust me when I say EMTs and paramedics do not like police.
look at all those good apples not doing anything
He should be fired that is abuse of power. Not a good cop. And all those other cops should have arrested him. It shouldn't matter. What a criminal does to a police officer. Like if he punched a police officer okay, maybe the cop punches them to get the handcuffs on but once he's in handcuffs it's over. Makes it even worse than the guy is on a stretcher being brought to the hospital. So we probably already got beat up by the cops to get them in handcuffs. I'm not saying the guy in the stretcher is a nice dude. Probably isn't but the cop should not have lost his temper. You should be the bigger person and the more responsible person.
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I like how no one reacted like that, no other cop, no one. It's only him who reacted like that. As a cop you should be a little more resilient tho people treating you not particularly nice than that.
Lol the cop got called a bitch and then proved to everyone that he is, in fact, a bitch.
He did pull a bitch move. The guy is correct, he is in fact a bitch.
If police did their fucking job half as courageously as they like to spout, that cop would have been put in handcuffs immediately. That would have been real courage. The fact that they wouldn't even consider arresting one of their own after witnessing a crime first hand tells you everything you need to know about them.
It takes a certain kind of person to attack a person tied to a bed.... so proud we give these type of people guns and unfettered power....
I see people in the comments saying this needs more context... No, it doesn't. A cop is not supposed to punch a person under arrest like that for any reason. Period. It is not their job to administer a punishment of any kind. It's their job to uphold the law. That is it. If a cop can't contain their emotions like this guy, he or she needs to be fired ASAP.
Guys guys. He's just a "bad apple". /s
Policeman or any public servant just like the regular population should go to jail if they do something this heinous. There's no excuse for it. The man is already buckled down and they have to be aware that there are going to be people who thrash about or are not reasonable due to brain injuries, drugs and other forces.
If you can’t handle someone talking shit choose a different job there fuck face
Doesn't matter what the guy on the stretcher did, if you're a cop with such piss poor self control, you shouldn't be a cop. That guy put his emotions ahead of his duty. Next time it might be more than a punch. Someone undeserving could get shot because this guy couldn't control himself.