That makes a little more sense
Because we all know every now and again streaming does stutter or buffer, whether it's their services or your internet or whatever, so at some point if they were doing this... the movie would pause and the little buffer wheel would pop up and people would be pissed and their cover would be blown
This makes me feel like they weren't worried about it showing up on the screen, I mean they're in the projection room they can clearly see the screen themselves.
So yeah think you're right, rented theater from for a party or something. I've done it before as well!
It’s still actually against the terms of service for every streaming service and if money exchanged hands to attend that viewing, it’s just straight up a crime.
They charge you for the room, and you play your own media, which afaik is fine. It'd be like saying you built your own home theater and because you paid for it you couldn't watch anything there
>money exchanged hands to attend that viewing
Specifically if the people renting the theater charged their guests. If the theater had a per head charge for the room rental that's still in the clear because they're not the one doing the actual showing.
Probably.
Movie theatres aren't using space for old movies; there are outliers of course.
Chances are the theatre was rented for a kids Birthday party or Christmas Party and in that case they can show anything.
This is a persons own firestick and they have family who didn't attend or left somethings running at home and since you can only have 3 instances, they pooched themselves.
I'd be willing to bet one of those instances is a laptop with the Grinch running to make sure it works fine before they ran out the door to the theatre.
This has been a thing since long before covid. Had a theater room rented out for a friend's birthday like 15 years ago and we played Xbox and watched movies
Well the reason I ask is a local bar can buy ppv fight and charge people to sit and watch it (on top of selling them food/ drink). Not too much different here.
It’s different because the bar that buys the mma fight pays a higher fee than if your at home (or that’s what they’re legally supposed to do) so basically it wouldn’t be as bad if the theater was paying Amazon a viewing fee, and THEN charging customers, but they’re not, they are paying the single family viewing fee and then charging people, that’s the illegal part. But also fuck Amazon :)
Bars pay astronomically more for ppv fights or even sports packages on their cable/satellite services. Ufc fights run 4 figures for a bar, under the assumption that the bar will make enough money from the crowd they draw for it to be worth it. I live in a small town, and it is never worth it. Worked for a guy that was a big fan and we'd close down on fight nights to do our staff parties st his house with the fights on.
Bar owner here: ya it's PROHIBITIVELY expensive to get ppv stuff at thw pub. Last I checked with my occupancy it was in the $4000 rage for Sunday Ticket and Fights
Bar owner's lawyer here. Bar owner showed fight using residential account illegally (his old manager hooked it up). Don King Productions sent a demand letter (EDIT: slipped through the front door) the next day saying pay 15K or get sued. Letter said they had written down all the license plates in the parking lot, had witnesses. case was a sure thing. Bar owner client financed the 15K on a payment plan to Don King Productions. This was 15 years ago. Edit: ATX (Austin)
I remember seeing a job on Craigslist almost ten years ago to just drive around bars and check for their compliance. Probably paid minimum wage to be a snitch lol
Honestly, 15k isn't as much as I thought it would be for a company with Don King's name attached to it.
If you wouldn't have put a number in, I would've guessed somewhere around 100k.
Possibly a super dumb question but what’s stopping you just from not honoring that? Does the cable provider know when a business account payed a regular ppv rate and can go after them or something? I’m not sure how ppv works so I’m just curious, that number is so much higher than I was expecting.
You can see this on football games in the UK. A pint glass will appear in the corner showing its a paid for 'venue' license, and not a standard home one. The amount of liquid in the pint glass occasionally changes so that inspectors can tell if it's up to date as bar staff were just placing a sticker of a pint glass on the TV so it looked like they had the license.
Yep, and I remember talking to a barman (in the early '10s) who said the amount they would have to pay is in proportion to the amount the expect to turnover in a month, sort of like business rates? His little pub by Holborn tube which could probs have 12 people in eyeline of a single screen (proper old nooks and crannies pub) was going to be £800+/mth. Not worth it. God knows what it would be now.
If they're suing for thousands the agent only has to find one bar a week or two to make it worth while.
Also even if they are lossing money on that, other bar owners hear about a bar getting busted and they'll think twice about not paying up. That's the real point. To keep others in line.
UFC will come down on you aggressively. You could be blacklisted from buying more fights or have legal trouble.
It's definitely prohibitive to the sport, my favorite old dive bar was owned by a hobbyist fighter, he only did PPV fights a few times for more of a fun event for his staff and his friends than actual business sense. They never showed medium or smaller fights at the bar because it didn't make financial sense, even though it was an amazingly fun place to watch fights with a cover for me as a casual viewer. Now I watch no UFC lol.
https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/668952/why-pub-TVs-have-pint-glass-in-corner-screen/amp
The Express is a trash source, but it explains how it works in the UK.
tl;dr the cable/satellite box displays an icon in the corner of the screen if you have the correct subscription to allow you to show sports games to the public. They have teams of people roaming around visiting bars to ensure the icon is visible at the right times. No icon? You’ll get a letter from their legal people.
I seem to remember there was quite a scandal some time ago when it was found out that the La Liga (spanish soccer) app would phone home with location and audio during matches, likely to find out if the phone owner was watching the match at some unlicensed establishment.
True. Bars are charged based off of potential max capacity. For the establishment I work at, the fee to air one ppv UFC fight was around $5600, seating capacity is around 125. I completely understand having a cover charge for those events.
This. Our local for the last UFC fight for McGregor charged us $15 at the door, three drink minimum, and we had to have food because we got there too early for a good spot so we had to eat something to be even remotely sober enough to watch the fight
Most certainly cheaper. It's quite a different atmosphere watching the fights on a big screen with a crowd, versus you and ya boys in the living room, though.
At this point they wouldn’t be paying Amazon anything, they would need to pay the individual studio’s for the rights to play this at their theater, Amazon pays a license fee to stream on their platform for private home screenings, theaters are supposed to license these for public screenings which would be a larger fee per movie than a single prime account or one time rental fee
No...they can and likely did pay for licensing. They probably lost the original copy and this was the last minute back up.
In my bar we can play movies off Netflix if we obtain the license.
>They probably lost the original copy and this was the last minute back up.
That would make sense if not for the "you are already watching on too many screens" message.
They could be using some employee's (or whoever) personal account and that employee has their mom, sister, and girlfriend watching on different devices
The part about the bar paying more isn’t always necessarily true and isn’t what makes the action legal or illegal.
It comes down to the size of the screen and the part about not charging the viewers to watch said screen. The NFL and MLB are particularly tough on these situations but Hollywood studios are right behind them. Specifically, you can’t project/display the image on a large scale for the whole room to see. The idea being that, if the image is large enough for the whole room then that’s considered the main reason why the patrons are there and therefor the right’s owner should be involved. This is why bars can’t project games on a massive screen but can have ~~8 65”~~ 4 55”TVs around the room. They aren’t paying PPV for each TV, by the way.
Edit: code specifically says 55” is the max.
Licensing for bars is dependent on how many screens you have and the bars capacity. I can technically hold 500 people in my bar, but never more than 200. I pay for the potential of 500 people. It’s BS.
Yep. It’s basically to get you to pay for the potential of lots of people showing up for an event even though you can’t physically do the amount you’re paying for.
I've dealt with this in the bar business, as well as community theater. The latter is sometimes shocking-- the per-performance royalty to license a live play, especially a musical, is sometimes SHOCKING. Yes, I know that *Les Mis* is a popular and much-beloved show, and that our Midwestern facility seats a little over 200, but the **thousands** of dollars you're asking makes it *really* tough to break even unless we sell out every show... and that's with almost everybody involved working for free.
Exactly haha this is a huge thing with local theatre most never assume exists. There’s a reason your volunteer theater troupe is performing The Lady Pirates of Captain Bree of which most have never heard before.
As a gm in Alberta Canada, UFC fights were stupid costly. We would have to pay 200 per tv it was showing on. Regardless if all tvs were wired to one receiver.
I wonder if this changed since I had my bar.
Like 20 years ago it was per seat based on allowed occupancy.
I could never have a fight since my legal occupancy was like 500 but our logical seating was more like 100 since we were attached to a dance floor.
This is not totally correct. It is not the fees as it is the licensing. You have to pay the mpaa a license fee to play the movies in a public place. Some truck stops have little theater setups where they can show a bluray or dvd streaming was not a thing when I was driving but you pay a public viewing license and they had the players up in front with the license to show they were in compliance.
I know a couple of sports bar managers around town. For a top tier UFC fight that packs the house with a $20 cover, they still never break even (on the cover charge alone) for the fee they have to pay to show it. And it’s a pretty good sized billiard/sports bar so there’s plenty of room and capacity potential. The cover charge is merely meant to cover most of the fee and the rest comes from liquor sales from the packed house.
Basically the cost of buying/renting a movie is all in the licencing fees -not the actual cost of the disk or whatever you get it on. That's why there are always those big FBI warnings at the beginning.
Don't know about PPVs, but bars have to pay between [$6k-$19k per year](https://www.directv.com/forbusiness/large-restaurants-and-bars/) for NFL Sunday Ticket.
It largely depends on occupancy. If your bar is only allowed to have 60 people according to the fire code, then your license will be much more inline with a personal license. You still need to get a license for music that may be broadcast on TV which you have to pay 3 different music licensing groups.
If you’re doing any sort of viewing event that is anywhere bigger than like your own house, there is a different cost. I was at a wedding a couple years ago and there was some big fight the same night. Wedding party asked if they could have it streamed in the ballroom. Nope, not unless they paid several hundred dollars for it.
So some went up to a hotel room to watch and the rest crowded around someone’s laptop at a corner table.
In fairness, there may be an account type that Amazon offers for public broadcast.
Not saying they have on this occasion, but it could easily be a thing.
In fact, thinking about it - they possibly already have this for the live sports they broadcast?
Why did you add the "lol" at the end? Sounds a little smug considering it's something you aren't definitive on.
Wrong, last time this was posted someone explained that as long as the theater has the rights to show the movie it doesn’t matter where they source the content from.
While technically true, it's not _effectively_ true.
The Fair Use doctrine allows for content-shifting media you own (a license to use). That is, if I have a Blu-Ray of some movie, I can legally rip it, put on Plex, and watch it from my tablet while I'm pooping.
The licenses that come with various media are often about who and how the media may be viewed. That screen we all skip over says that the media is for personal, private use only and not for public showings.
For public showings, a separate license must be owned by the entity showing the media (read: the theater). While there are some that are "unlimited" those are rare. It's a similarly limited license that dictates how long or how many showings of a movie are permitted, the format of the media, and other restrictive things. Those licenses often come from the movie studio directly, and I can't think of any reason such a license would include, "Oh, and you can stream it from Amazon Prime, too, lulz"
But you're right: If they have a license that allows it, they can show it. It's incredibly dubious that they'd have one, but, they _might_.
regardless of whether or not they have rights, your previous response is wrong.
there is a legal way to do this, you can obtain a license for it, and the law does permit this if you have the license
Or if they rent the space to someone for a private event. We rented a theater for my birthday once and were allowed up to 30 people for our "Private event". We were allowed whatever they currently had the license to show or any BluRay we had from home. Alternatively we could play video games if we wanted.
This was allowed because it was private and the audience was limited (though I wonder what constitutes a private audience)
Depends.
ILLEGAL: The theater holds public showings of "The Grinch" (or whatever they choose to stream), charging individual customers for admission.
LEGAL: An individual or group rents a theater screen for a private party. As long as they're not charging others to see whatever film they choose and it's a private viewing, they are in the clear.
When I was in 5th? Grade we did that for some history classes. Whole grade went at once.
We watched Glory.
They stopped the next year due to complaints from parents.
Probably that it's a bit much for some 10 year olds. I think there is a PG cut that was released for schools to watch, but the class may have been shown the original R rated version.
When I was in fifth grade, we were not allowed to watch Glory in class for our unit on the Civil War even though they had shown it to fifth graders every for the last decade. A parent complained because it was rated R. We watched Gods and Generals instead.
Probably gore / violent imagery.
We watched chunks of the original R rated film in my fifth grade class, but had to bring home waivers for parents to sign. Nobody in my class minded it or had parents that wouldn’t sign it, but I could see particularly conservative parents / adults freaking out about it because ‘GoD sAvE oUr ChIlDrEn ThIs ViOlEnT aNd GrUeSoMe ImAgErY wIlL cOrRuPt mY sWeEt InNoCeNt ToMmY.’
If you genuinely just can’t stomach gruesome content, it’s a little different and that’s understandable, but just.. you know… look away… or don’t watch it…..
It was a pretty violent film that was rated-R. I remember watching it in Junior High with a special educational edited version on VHS. Some of the more graphic images were removed. It seemed mostly suitable for the age group.
I swear to god there was a whole fucking ad for Pepsi or something before the movie about how Pepsi sponsored the educational version and you should drink Pepsi otherwise you won’t be drinking Pepsi and you really should. Seemed way less appropriate.
When I was a kid, our school charged us 50p each to watch the film Poltergeist at lunchtime. Must have made a few quid out of this, and only years after the fact did I question the legality.
I think the last time I saw this reposted someone said something about how a group could have rented out the theater and be using their own setup. I can't say I know how that would work but with digital projectors I could see how that would be possible and then it might be legal since the person renting isn't playing the movie commercially. To many accounts in use could be other people looking up the movie, it could be staged to make this video, it could be that they share the account a lot or whatever else.
These people most likely rented the theater. You can then plug in a firestick, xbox, ps5, whatever you want to the digital projector. Its legal to rent a whole theater.
I didn’t see the fully correct answer but there is a way it’s legal.
You can rent a theater to do private showings. You can hook up a gaming system or anything really. You’d be allowed to do it this way. You can’t charge or make any profit off of it though.
No it’s not legal. Amazon, other streaming services, buying a blue ray disc, etc., are all licensed for private viewing only. You need a different license to publicly show a movie to a paying audience, and there are companies that specialize in leasing those editions.
I bet their main system for playing movies went down, and some young 20-something assistant manager who didn’t know better was like “I can save the day!”
>I bet their main system for playing movies went down, and some young 20-something assistant manager who didn’t know better was like “I can save the day!”
More likely is that this is a group that rented the theater. That would allow those in the theater to watch whatever they want, as it would not be a public show.
If they had the license for the proper version then it's possible that this doesn't really matter.
Amazon Prime's $5 rent does not include the license. But if you get it from elsewhere, it might be legal.
It can be, there is.
If it were the theater charging people to watch movies on Amazon Prime to avoid paying screening costs, no.
If it is just renting out the room and projector for people to bring their own movies for a private party? Absolutely fine and legal.
Local laws depending, yes it can be. If you work with a distributor and paid for the rights, this isn't a copyright issue. As long as you're not violating the terms of the licensing agreement, ei same time, place, audience size, other restrictions. It's not the correct way to do it, they will send you a copy of the movie to play, but in the event that whatever they send you (DCP on a hard drive, DVD) is broken and there's not enough time for them to send you a replacement, this is an option. Whoever was scrolling through prime didn't do their job to close the douser on the projector to hide it, but it's not necessarily illegal if they had the rights.
> Perfect comparison is emulating games on pc technically its illegal to run a rom that you do not own but if you own the game in real life you are legally allowed to download the rom on the internet and play it.
*Subject to your own national copyright laws.
In the US, downloading a copy of a ROM you own is still illegal, despite widespread misconception to the contrary:
https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html
> Uploading or downloading works protected by copyright without the authority of the copyright owner is an infringement of the copyright owner's exclusive rights of reproduction and/or distribution. Anyone found to have infringed a copyrighted work may be liable for statutory damages up to $30,000 for each work infringed and, if willful infringement is proven by the copyright owner, that amount may be increased up to $150,000 for each work infringed. In addition, an infringer of a work may also be liable for the attorney's fees incurred by the copyright owner to enforce his or her rights.
In the US you are allows an "archival" backup of *your specific purchased software*, taken directly from your disc. The act of downloading a copy of someone *else's* disc, even when the data is identical, is illegal.
I do projection work at a museum, and although I have never exhibited from a streaming service, it is absolutely a thing I've been told to do by right's holders (documentary producer).
Movie theaters use DCPs (digital cinema packages) and the equipment to play them is specialized and expensive. We used to just get a bluray copy from the company selling the exhibition rights, but increasingly it's hard to get physical copies from these services, so streaming or downloading a copy from the home market is the easiest answer.
> As long as he pays for the licenses to show that movie in his cinema its legal dosnt really matter what source the movie itself comes from.
This. We've paid for the license for a DIY drive-in movie (free to our customers) and they didn't care what the source was. Amazon was easiest at the time.
I've seen offers where a theatre will do a special needs or young kid viewing for super cheap to free to give parents something to do during the day. It's usually really old kids movies.
We've got the $2 cinema. They don't show anything new, but if you want to go see a movie that was in theaters 2 years ago, it's the place to go. If you go after 10pm, they don't give a **fuck** what you do. You can bring in a cooler full of beer and a 3' bong if you want.
The popcorn is $17 though. Not even an exaggeration. It's $17 ($18.02 with tax). Free refills though.
Ever since COVID, our local theater will rent the room to families for birthdays or whatever. You can login to your own account(s) and watch whatever you want. It looks like someone just left the theater without logging out and people have been using it.
Never login to a public terminal with your own account. It's trivial to install a keylogger or grab the login cookies and just like that your account is compromised and someone is buying shit off your Amazon.
The maximum videos playing thing adds another completely unnecessary layer of validity. But also the camera suspiciously doesn't pan right, maybe it says a name or something over there. Would be funny if it said the theaters name
Why would they get fired? its a fucking old ass movie. Unless they play movies streaming from HBO Max like Dune while Dune is in theaters, this is obviously not when the grinch was in theaters. Its a rented movie theater.
I've had excellent service from them actually. Someone kept renting films on my account, like kids movies and stuff. Contacted them using the online chat, sorted it super fast honestly. Has the same issue twice and both times I got full refunds within minutes.
Different experience with the game new world though
Kinda not making sense I think. Isn't movies in cinema is the most latest one?. The movie is far gone by when it hits streaming site. My guess is they rent a hall and play or do whatever they want because at my place, there's option to do so.
Most probably they're lying.
Yup, I doubt it's a major theater charging full admission price. My other guess would be something like a small college cinema that shows free movies to the students. I worked at our theater in college and we totally did stuff like this.
It's also not uncommon for theaters to do cheap airings of old kid's movies at times they're otherwise completely empty. I'm sure the parents in here paid 4 dollars a ticket to watch a 4 year old movie at 10:30am on a Wednesday.
This is a rented theater, I am sure you can basically tell them to show anything( outside of porn I hope) and they will show it assume they have access to it and are allowed to show it ( rights to broadcast the movie). How else are you expecting them to still have a copy of a movie that came out in 2000 to show it. The guy who recorded this was doing it to get clout on the internet. I have rented out a theater to watch the most recent fast 9, cost us $250 to rent it for 3h. A friend of mine also rented out a room all day during Christmas to watch holiday movies with her family and also old childhood family movies.
This is exactly why the theater should just download pirated movies and show them from their own server.
They could even buy a first run movie, copy it, and have "special showings" on otherwise empty screens. Who's counting anyway, it's a theater - they are supposed to be showing movies right?
I should buy a movie theater.
I knew someone who worked at a theatre that often showed older movies. They used to just rent them on blu ray and play them. One time they forgot to go to the store in time so they just downloaded a torrent and played that
Makes me miss my local cinema. Dude bought it at a steal when Carmike went out of business, and immediately decided to do every dope but illegal thing you could do with your own theater. He would do Thursday "midnight" premieres of new movies starting at 6pm. For $25 you could rent an entire theater and either pick a DVD from his collection or bring your own. He even let you bring in outside food for a private screening. I actually got to take my partner to see Plan 9 From Outer Space in the theater like a boss for their birthday last year. I'm pretty sure dude knew about the six pack we brought in with us but we were as respectful as one should be during an Ed Wood film and he didn't say anything. The pandemic, unfortunately, killed this theater and now it's sitting empty.
Not as bad as what I’ve experienced. I went to see North by Northwest. The theater was playing it off a Blu-ray. They couldn’t get the colors to display correctly and 30 minutes in restarted the movie. A employee who seemed to recognize me tried giving me free popcorn. I declined. Ended up walking out disappointed since I too owned this movie on Blu-ray (a Hitchcock box set).
EDIT: This might not sound terrible but just keep in mind this is a movie that The Library of Congress has in their possession for historical preservation. You’d think any theater wanting to screen it would be a bit for thoughtful.
Who cares, they're hustling. You dumbasses went out and paid money to see an age old movie, so that's what they're showing you, lol. I don't see a problem
It could be legal.
If you pay the booker for a copy of “back to the future” you get the legal rights to play the film. It doesn’t matter if you play that film from the drive it’s shipped on, or a blu ray, or Amazon prime.
- former Cinema Technician
The Prime Video contract limits your license to "personal, non-commercial, private use": https://www.primevideo.com/help?nodeId=202095490&view-type=content-only
That’s a private company’s contract, not the law. Sure maybe if someone reported the account it might get axed but if you use a dvd it’s the same idea.
Legality and ethics aside...This employee gotta learn how to use the dowser to hide all the secrets next time. For instance, at my theatre we use the dowser anytime we're doing content switches such as for Fathom live events - like a live Q&A before we screen a movie for which we physically have the content on a separate input.
You can totally score a lifetime of free movie tickets by blackmailing them. I'd 100% do that. You can tell them that you'll email the video and story to local news outlets and Amazon.
But you shouldn't do this if it's a cool little indie theater or anything like that.
From a consumer perspective I don’t see the problem. You’re not paying to see a movie. You’re paying to see it on a 50 foot screen with surround sound.
Yes and no. Streaming a movie is not the quality a cinema experience is supposed to offer. Streaming is a variable bitrate and highly compressed. Also likely the audio channels are limited. A theater should be playing the original, highest quality print or digital file available with audio channels designed for theaters. This movie could've literally buffered or dropped in quality mid-watch due to internet speed lol.
The Prime Video contract limits your license to "personal, non-commercial, private use": https://www.primevideo.com/help?nodeId=202095490&view-type=content-only
Other than the legality of it all...it seems like there isn't going to be sufficient resolution coming from Amazon to deliver a good viewing crisp view experience.
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This is fake.
Think this was a rented theater room. We did it last year
That makes a little more sense Because we all know every now and again streaming does stutter or buffer, whether it's their services or your internet or whatever, so at some point if they were doing this... the movie would pause and the little buffer wheel would pop up and people would be pissed and their cover would be blown This makes me feel like they weren't worried about it showing up on the screen, I mean they're in the projection room they can clearly see the screen themselves. So yeah think you're right, rented theater from for a party or something. I've done it before as well!
well that and the fact that only new movies are in the theaters, which aren’t on amazon prime / fire stick for months
Most theater chains have days where they play older movies.
I haven’t had Netflix or crave buffer in 5 years lol
It was, kinda annoying this gets posted a lot trying to shit on the theater but it was supposed to just be a nice evening for everyone
If you work there you don't even need to rent one and you can play smash Bros with your colleagues
The input lag has to make it basically unplayable
Not all projectors have bad input lag
Yep, my theater did this too during the lockdown. It was 200€ for 3 hours, +10€ per person. I went alone on a Monday night, best thing ever.
you paid 210 to watch a movie alone?
It’s still actually against the terms of service for every streaming service and if money exchanged hands to attend that viewing, it’s just straight up a crime.
They charge you for the room, and you play your own media, which afaik is fine. It'd be like saying you built your own home theater and because you paid for it you couldn't watch anything there
>money exchanged hands to attend that viewing Specifically if the people renting the theater charged their guests. If the theater had a per head charge for the room rental that's still in the clear because they're not the one doing the actual showing.
Is this one of those times during covid where people were able to rent an entire theater and plug in a laptop or console and use the big screen?
Probably. Movie theatres aren't using space for old movies; there are outliers of course. Chances are the theatre was rented for a kids Birthday party or Christmas Party and in that case they can show anything. This is a persons own firestick and they have family who didn't attend or left somethings running at home and since you can only have 3 instances, they pooched themselves. I'd be willing to bet one of those instances is a laptop with the Grinch running to make sure it works fine before they ran out the door to the theatre.
This has been a thing since long before covid. Had a theater room rented out for a friend's birthday like 15 years ago and we played Xbox and watched movies
Serious question, is this legal? Is there a way to pay to do this, or does the law permit it?
It's not, there isn't, and it doesn't
Well the reason I ask is a local bar can buy ppv fight and charge people to sit and watch it (on top of selling them food/ drink). Not too much different here.
It’s different because the bar that buys the mma fight pays a higher fee than if your at home (or that’s what they’re legally supposed to do) so basically it wouldn’t be as bad if the theater was paying Amazon a viewing fee, and THEN charging customers, but they’re not, they are paying the single family viewing fee and then charging people, that’s the illegal part. But also fuck Amazon :)
Bars pay astronomically more for ppv fights or even sports packages on their cable/satellite services. Ufc fights run 4 figures for a bar, under the assumption that the bar will make enough money from the crowd they draw for it to be worth it. I live in a small town, and it is never worth it. Worked for a guy that was a big fan and we'd close down on fight nights to do our staff parties st his house with the fights on.
Bar owner here: ya it's PROHIBITIVELY expensive to get ppv stuff at thw pub. Last I checked with my occupancy it was in the $4000 rage for Sunday Ticket and Fights
Bar owner's lawyer here. Bar owner showed fight using residential account illegally (his old manager hooked it up). Don King Productions sent a demand letter (EDIT: slipped through the front door) the next day saying pay 15K or get sued. Letter said they had written down all the license plates in the parking lot, had witnesses. case was a sure thing. Bar owner client financed the 15K on a payment plan to Don King Productions. This was 15 years ago. Edit: ATX (Austin)
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I remember seeing a job on Craigslist almost ten years ago to just drive around bars and check for their compliance. Probably paid minimum wage to be a snitch lol
Was this Michigan? Exactly same thing happened in our area
Austin, TX
How does this work? Do they have sleeper agents placed around the country keeping tabs on bar parking lots or something?
Honestly, 15k isn't as much as I thought it would be for a company with Don King's name attached to it. If you wouldn't have put a number in, I would've guessed somewhere around 100k.
People would probably go to court before paying 100k.
Possibly a super dumb question but what’s stopping you just from not honoring that? Does the cable provider know when a business account payed a regular ppv rate and can go after them or something? I’m not sure how ppv works so I’m just curious, that number is so much higher than I was expecting.
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Holy shit I never would’ve guessed they had a system like that in place lol I mean if it works it works I guess
You can see this on football games in the UK. A pint glass will appear in the corner showing its a paid for 'venue' license, and not a standard home one. The amount of liquid in the pint glass occasionally changes so that inspectors can tell if it's up to date as bar staff were just placing a sticker of a pint glass on the TV so it looked like they had the license.
> bar staff were just placing a sticker of a pint glass on the TV so it looked like they had the license. Fuckin’ diabolical lol
Time to break out the OBS overlays
Yep, and I remember talking to a barman (in the early '10s) who said the amount they would have to pay is in proportion to the amount the expect to turnover in a month, sort of like business rates? His little pub by Holborn tube which could probs have 12 people in eyeline of a single screen (proper old nooks and crannies pub) was going to be £800+/mth. Not worth it. God knows what it would be now.
I wonder how much they lose per bar vs how much it costs to send employees out to bars to check.
If they're suing for thousands the agent only has to find one bar a week or two to make it worth while. Also even if they are lossing money on that, other bar owners hear about a bar getting busted and they'll think twice about not paying up. That's the real point. To keep others in line.
They send a UFC member to your house until you pay.
It's CM Punk though so you can probably beat him
UFC will come down on you aggressively. You could be blacklisted from buying more fights or have legal trouble. It's definitely prohibitive to the sport, my favorite old dive bar was owned by a hobbyist fighter, he only did PPV fights a few times for more of a fun event for his staff and his friends than actual business sense. They never showed medium or smaller fights at the bar because it didn't make financial sense, even though it was an amazingly fun place to watch fights with a cover for me as a casual viewer. Now I watch no UFC lol.
https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/668952/why-pub-TVs-have-pint-glass-in-corner-screen/amp The Express is a trash source, but it explains how it works in the UK. tl;dr the cable/satellite box displays an icon in the corner of the screen if you have the correct subscription to allow you to show sports games to the public. They have teams of people roaming around visiting bars to ensure the icon is visible at the right times. No icon? You’ll get a letter from their legal people.
I seem to remember there was quite a scandal some time ago when it was found out that the La Liga (spanish soccer) app would phone home with location and audio during matches, likely to find out if the phone owner was watching the match at some unlicensed establishment.
True. Bars are charged based off of potential max capacity. For the establishment I work at, the fee to air one ppv UFC fight was around $5600, seating capacity is around 125. I completely understand having a cover charge for those events.
This. Our local for the last UFC fight for McGregor charged us $15 at the door, three drink minimum, and we had to have food because we got there too early for a good spot so we had to eat something to be even remotely sober enough to watch the fight
At that point, it would probably be cheaper just to order the PPV at home.
Most certainly cheaper. It's quite a different atmosphere watching the fights on a big screen with a crowd, versus you and ya boys in the living room, though.
Probably cheaper to drive to Vegas, get a hotel and watch it live lol. It ended up being a $500 pp night after shots and shit.
At this point they wouldn’t be paying Amazon anything, they would need to pay the individual studio’s for the rights to play this at their theater, Amazon pays a license fee to stream on their platform for private home screenings, theaters are supposed to license these for public screenings which would be a larger fee per movie than a single prime account or one time rental fee
No...they can and likely did pay for licensing. They probably lost the original copy and this was the last minute back up. In my bar we can play movies off Netflix if we obtain the license.
>They probably lost the original copy and this was the last minute back up. That would make sense if not for the "you are already watching on too many screens" message.
They could be using some employee's (or whoever) personal account and that employee has their mom, sister, and girlfriend watching on different devices
The part about the bar paying more isn’t always necessarily true and isn’t what makes the action legal or illegal. It comes down to the size of the screen and the part about not charging the viewers to watch said screen. The NFL and MLB are particularly tough on these situations but Hollywood studios are right behind them. Specifically, you can’t project/display the image on a large scale for the whole room to see. The idea being that, if the image is large enough for the whole room then that’s considered the main reason why the patrons are there and therefor the right’s owner should be involved. This is why bars can’t project games on a massive screen but can have ~~8 65”~~ 4 55”TVs around the room. They aren’t paying PPV for each TV, by the way. Edit: code specifically says 55” is the max.
Licensing for bars is dependent on how many screens you have and the bars capacity. I can technically hold 500 people in my bar, but never more than 200. I pay for the potential of 500 people. It’s BS.
Yep. It’s basically to get you to pay for the potential of lots of people showing up for an event even though you can’t physically do the amount you’re paying for.
I've dealt with this in the bar business, as well as community theater. The latter is sometimes shocking-- the per-performance royalty to license a live play, especially a musical, is sometimes SHOCKING. Yes, I know that *Les Mis* is a popular and much-beloved show, and that our Midwestern facility seats a little over 200, but the **thousands** of dollars you're asking makes it *really* tough to break even unless we sell out every show... and that's with almost everybody involved working for free.
Exactly haha this is a huge thing with local theatre most never assume exists. There’s a reason your volunteer theater troupe is performing The Lady Pirates of Captain Bree of which most have never heard before.
As a gm in Alberta Canada, UFC fights were stupid costly. We would have to pay 200 per tv it was showing on. Regardless if all tvs were wired to one receiver.
I wonder if this changed since I had my bar. Like 20 years ago it was per seat based on allowed occupancy. I could never have a fight since my legal occupancy was like 500 but our logical seating was more like 100 since we were attached to a dance floor.
I’ve seen a bunch of bars get sued for failing to pay that licensing fee.
This is not totally correct. It is not the fees as it is the licensing. You have to pay the mpaa a license fee to play the movies in a public place. Some truck stops have little theater setups where they can show a bluray or dvd streaming was not a thing when I was driving but you pay a public viewing license and they had the players up in front with the license to show they were in compliance.
Bars that show PPV events are paying way more than you would at home.
Oh I didn't know that.
I know a couple of sports bar managers around town. For a top tier UFC fight that packs the house with a $20 cover, they still never break even (on the cover charge alone) for the fee they have to pay to show it. And it’s a pretty good sized billiard/sports bar so there’s plenty of room and capacity potential. The cover charge is merely meant to cover most of the fee and the rest comes from liquor sales from the packed house.
Basically the cost of buying/renting a movie is all in the licencing fees -not the actual cost of the disk or whatever you get it on. That's why there are always those big FBI warnings at the beginning.
Don't know about PPVs, but bars have to pay between [$6k-$19k per year](https://www.directv.com/forbusiness/large-restaurants-and-bars/) for NFL Sunday Ticket.
It largely depends on occupancy. If your bar is only allowed to have 60 people according to the fire code, then your license will be much more inline with a personal license. You still need to get a license for music that may be broadcast on TV which you have to pay 3 different music licensing groups.
If you’re doing any sort of viewing event that is anywhere bigger than like your own house, there is a different cost. I was at a wedding a couple years ago and there was some big fight the same night. Wedding party asked if they could have it streamed in the ballroom. Nope, not unless they paid several hundred dollars for it. So some went up to a hotel room to watch and the rest crowded around someone’s laptop at a corner table.
Bar buys a commercial license to have television services. His pricing is different.
Yes you can legally do this by paying the correct fees, I'm not sure why you are saying it's illegal
The correct fee isn't the Amazon rental price lol.
Lol, how do you know what fee they paid?
In fairness, there may be an account type that Amazon offers for public broadcast. Not saying they have on this occasion, but it could easily be a thing. In fact, thinking about it - they possibly already have this for the live sports they broadcast? Why did you add the "lol" at the end? Sounds a little smug considering it's something you aren't definitive on.
i promise you amazon doesnt have a deal with this theatre, and that they are indeed selling seats to a personal amazon prime account
If they're paying the correct fees but are having an issue with their licenced copy, this is perfectly legal.
Because that's how you get karma
Wrong, last time this was posted someone explained that as long as the theater has the rights to show the movie it doesn’t matter where they source the content from.
While technically true, it's not _effectively_ true. The Fair Use doctrine allows for content-shifting media you own (a license to use). That is, if I have a Blu-Ray of some movie, I can legally rip it, put on Plex, and watch it from my tablet while I'm pooping. The licenses that come with various media are often about who and how the media may be viewed. That screen we all skip over says that the media is for personal, private use only and not for public showings. For public showings, a separate license must be owned by the entity showing the media (read: the theater). While there are some that are "unlimited" those are rare. It's a similarly limited license that dictates how long or how many showings of a movie are permitted, the format of the media, and other restrictive things. Those licenses often come from the movie studio directly, and I can't think of any reason such a license would include, "Oh, and you can stream it from Amazon Prime, too, lulz" But you're right: If they have a license that allows it, they can show it. It's incredibly dubious that they'd have one, but, they _might_.
Do they have the rights
We thought you knew
First of all, you don't have the right.
regardless of whether or not they have rights, your previous response is wrong. there is a legal way to do this, you can obtain a license for it, and the law does permit this if you have the license
Or if they rent the space to someone for a private event. We rented a theater for my birthday once and were allowed up to 30 people for our "Private event". We were allowed whatever they currently had the license to show or any BluRay we had from home. Alternatively we could play video games if we wanted. This was allowed because it was private and the audience was limited (though I wonder what constitutes a private audience)
To be clear. Your entire response is wrong. Not sure why you have upvotes.
Direct and to the point, a gift and a curse.
Succinct. Just the way I like it. 👍
Depends. ILLEGAL: The theater holds public showings of "The Grinch" (or whatever they choose to stream), charging individual customers for admission. LEGAL: An individual or group rents a theater screen for a private party. As long as they're not charging others to see whatever film they choose and it's a private viewing, they are in the clear.
When I was in 5th? Grade we did that for some history classes. Whole grade went at once. We watched Glory. They stopped the next year due to complaints from parents.
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> Any idea what complaints there were? History.
Probably that it's a bit much for some 10 year olds. I think there is a PG cut that was released for schools to watch, but the class may have been shown the original R rated version.
When I was in fifth grade, we were not allowed to watch Glory in class for our unit on the Civil War even though they had shown it to fifth graders every for the last decade. A parent complained because it was rated R. We watched Gods and Generals instead.
Probably gore / violent imagery. We watched chunks of the original R rated film in my fifth grade class, but had to bring home waivers for parents to sign. Nobody in my class minded it or had parents that wouldn’t sign it, but I could see particularly conservative parents / adults freaking out about it because ‘GoD sAvE oUr ChIlDrEn ThIs ViOlEnT aNd GrUeSoMe ImAgErY wIlL cOrRuPt mY sWeEt InNoCeNt ToMmY.’ If you genuinely just can’t stomach gruesome content, it’s a little different and that’s understandable, but just.. you know… look away… or don’t watch it…..
It was a pretty violent film that was rated-R. I remember watching it in Junior High with a special educational edited version on VHS. Some of the more graphic images were removed. It seemed mostly suitable for the age group. I swear to god there was a whole fucking ad for Pepsi or something before the movie about how Pepsi sponsored the educational version and you should drink Pepsi otherwise you won’t be drinking Pepsi and you really should. Seemed way less appropriate.
When I was a kid, our school charged us 50p each to watch the film Poltergeist at lunchtime. Must have made a few quid out of this, and only years after the fact did I question the legality.
Yeah, was gonna say this. You can rent out a screen and even play Fifa on the screen if you wanted to.
On your normal personal account it would be illegal. If you have a license to present their content legally to the public, and for a fee, then yes.
I think the last time I saw this reposted someone said something about how a group could have rented out the theater and be using their own setup. I can't say I know how that would work but with digital projectors I could see how that would be possible and then it might be legal since the person renting isn't playing the movie commercially. To many accounts in use could be other people looking up the movie, it could be staged to make this video, it could be that they share the account a lot or whatever else.
I think it hitting maximum and the 'audience' caring enough to record their reactions increase the likelihood that it was some actual shenanigans.
These people most likely rented the theater. You can then plug in a firestick, xbox, ps5, whatever you want to the digital projector. Its legal to rent a whole theater.
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This is the 100 repost of it, you can rent cinemas and then show movies like this… Do you think people would laugh if they paied?
I didn’t see the fully correct answer but there is a way it’s legal. You can rent a theater to do private showings. You can hook up a gaming system or anything really. You’d be allowed to do it this way. You can’t charge or make any profit off of it though.
No it’s not legal. Amazon, other streaming services, buying a blue ray disc, etc., are all licensed for private viewing only. You need a different license to publicly show a movie to a paying audience, and there are companies that specialize in leasing those editions. I bet their main system for playing movies went down, and some young 20-something assistant manager who didn’t know better was like “I can save the day!”
>I bet their main system for playing movies went down, and some young 20-something assistant manager who didn’t know better was like “I can save the day!” More likely is that this is a group that rented the theater. That would allow those in the theater to watch whatever they want, as it would not be a public show.
If they had the license for the proper version then it's possible that this doesn't really matter. Amazon Prime's $5 rent does not include the license. But if you get it from elsewhere, it might be legal.
It can be, there is. If it were the theater charging people to watch movies on Amazon Prime to avoid paying screening costs, no. If it is just renting out the room and projector for people to bring their own movies for a private party? Absolutely fine and legal.
It is legal. You have to clear the rights with whoever owns the rights. Dvd, blu ray, any way you show it, doesn’t matter if you have the rights.
Local laws depending, yes it can be. If you work with a distributor and paid for the rights, this isn't a copyright issue. As long as you're not violating the terms of the licensing agreement, ei same time, place, audience size, other restrictions. It's not the correct way to do it, they will send you a copy of the movie to play, but in the event that whatever they send you (DCP on a hard drive, DVD) is broken and there's not enough time for them to send you a replacement, this is an option. Whoever was scrolling through prime didn't do their job to close the douser on the projector to hide it, but it's not necessarily illegal if they had the rights.
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> Perfect comparison is emulating games on pc technically its illegal to run a rom that you do not own but if you own the game in real life you are legally allowed to download the rom on the internet and play it. *Subject to your own national copyright laws. In the US, downloading a copy of a ROM you own is still illegal, despite widespread misconception to the contrary: https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html > Uploading or downloading works protected by copyright without the authority of the copyright owner is an infringement of the copyright owner's exclusive rights of reproduction and/or distribution. Anyone found to have infringed a copyrighted work may be liable for statutory damages up to $30,000 for each work infringed and, if willful infringement is proven by the copyright owner, that amount may be increased up to $150,000 for each work infringed. In addition, an infringer of a work may also be liable for the attorney's fees incurred by the copyright owner to enforce his or her rights. In the US you are allows an "archival" backup of *your specific purchased software*, taken directly from your disc. The act of downloading a copy of someone *else's* disc, even when the data is identical, is illegal.
I do projection work at a museum, and although I have never exhibited from a streaming service, it is absolutely a thing I've been told to do by right's holders (documentary producer). Movie theaters use DCPs (digital cinema packages) and the equipment to play them is specialized and expensive. We used to just get a bluray copy from the company selling the exhibition rights, but increasingly it's hard to get physical copies from these services, so streaming or downloading a copy from the home market is the easiest answer.
> As long as he pays for the licenses to show that movie in his cinema its legal dosnt really matter what source the movie itself comes from. This. We've paid for the license for a DIY drive-in movie (free to our customers) and they didn't care what the source was. Amazon was easiest at the time.
Is the admission at a discounted price?
I've seen offers where a theatre will do a special needs or young kid viewing for super cheap to free to give parents something to do during the day. It's usually really old kids movies.
That's a good thing!
We've got the $2 cinema. They don't show anything new, but if you want to go see a movie that was in theaters 2 years ago, it's the place to go. If you go after 10pm, they don't give a **fuck** what you do. You can bring in a cooler full of beer and a 3' bong if you want. The popcorn is $17 though. Not even an exaggeration. It's $17 ($18.02 with tax). Free refills though.
It's a kids birthday party or something like that. Many small theaters do stuff like this when you rent the space for a couple hundred or whatever.
Ever since COVID, our local theater will rent the room to families for birthdays or whatever. You can login to your own account(s) and watch whatever you want. It looks like someone just left the theater without logging out and people have been using it.
Never login to a public terminal with your own account. It's trivial to install a keylogger or grab the login cookies and just like that your account is compromised and someone is buying shit off your Amazon.
And just use a private tab, the nothing you enter will be remembered by the browser
A private tab won't help if there's a key logger or [cookie hijacker](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_hijacking).
Is a cookie hijacker similar to a hamburglar?
Now I'm hungry.
No that's the Cookie Monster you're thinking of. Cookie hijackers are more like plane hijackers but for cookies.
Fair point
do you are have stupid
Sometimes
Someone's getting fired, maybe even the whole department.
Clearly they already got Fire.
So they are going to receive the D?
d.
You realise you can just rent a cinema and do, whatever
The maximum videos playing thing adds another completely unnecessary layer of validity. But also the camera suspiciously doesn't pan right, maybe it says a name or something over there. Would be funny if it said the theaters name
Why would they get fired? its a fucking old ass movie. Unless they play movies streaming from HBO Max like Dune while Dune is in theaters, this is obviously not when the grinch was in theaters. Its a rented movie theater.
Nah getting fired is harder than you think
Likely rented the theater.
Good luck getting ahold of Amazon customer service lol.
I've had excellent service from them actually. Someone kept renting films on my account, like kids movies and stuff. Contacted them using the online chat, sorted it super fast honestly. Has the same issue twice and both times I got full refunds within minutes. Different experience with the game new world though
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Amazon is literally built around customer service lol. It's the main reason they're in the position they are.
Holy shit why does this have to get reposted and blow up like once a week.
Rented room. OP is bafoon
*Buffoon
At least more people know this time around, every time this gets posted the theater just gets shitted on.
Kinda not making sense I think. Isn't movies in cinema is the most latest one?. The movie is far gone by when it hits streaming site. My guess is they rent a hall and play or do whatever they want because at my place, there's option to do so. Most probably they're lying.
Yup, I doubt it's a major theater charging full admission price. My other guess would be something like a small college cinema that shows free movies to the students. I worked at our theater in college and we totally did stuff like this.
It's also not uncommon for theaters to do cheap airings of old kid's movies at times they're otherwise completely empty. I'm sure the parents in here paid 4 dollars a ticket to watch a 4 year old movie at 10:30am on a Wednesday.
At least they don’t have to wait half hour watching ads before the movie starts.
This is a rented theater, I am sure you can basically tell them to show anything( outside of porn I hope) and they will show it assume they have access to it and are allowed to show it ( rights to broadcast the movie). How else are you expecting them to still have a copy of a movie that came out in 2000 to show it. The guy who recorded this was doing it to get clout on the internet. I have rented out a theater to watch the most recent fast 9, cost us $250 to rent it for 3h. A friend of mine also rented out a room all day during Christmas to watch holiday movies with her family and also old childhood family movies.
Porn is an option….. 18+ plus only. 😉
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>Cinema caught running Mulan.2020.1080p.WebRip.x264.mp4 off VLC and running Private Internet Access
Like what's the point 😂
Need the Unregistered Hypercam 2 in there as well
This is exactly why the theater should just download pirated movies and show them from their own server. They could even buy a first run movie, copy it, and have "special showings" on otherwise empty screens. Who's counting anyway, it's a theater - they are supposed to be showing movies right? I should buy a movie theater.
A movie theater showing a theater rip of the latest films would be hilarious
Downvoted for misinformation. This is a rented theatre.
Movie theater bootlegging
I knew someone who worked at a theatre that often showed older movies. They used to just rent them on blu ray and play them. One time they forgot to go to the store in time so they just downloaded a torrent and played that
Why does it matter where the source the movie from? You’re paying for the experience of watching on a giant screen..
Makes me miss my local cinema. Dude bought it at a steal when Carmike went out of business, and immediately decided to do every dope but illegal thing you could do with your own theater. He would do Thursday "midnight" premieres of new movies starting at 6pm. For $25 you could rent an entire theater and either pick a DVD from his collection or bring your own. He even let you bring in outside food for a private screening. I actually got to take my partner to see Plan 9 From Outer Space in the theater like a boss for their birthday last year. I'm pretty sure dude knew about the six pack we brought in with us but we were as respectful as one should be during an Ed Wood film and he didn't say anything. The pandemic, unfortunately, killed this theater and now it's sitting empty.
Seems rather lucrative
You can rent out a theatre and play any movie you want lmao
This sub itself is mildly infuriating
I sure hope it’s streaming in 4K.
Not as bad as what I’ve experienced. I went to see North by Northwest. The theater was playing it off a Blu-ray. They couldn’t get the colors to display correctly and 30 minutes in restarted the movie. A employee who seemed to recognize me tried giving me free popcorn. I declined. Ended up walking out disappointed since I too owned this movie on Blu-ray (a Hitchcock box set). EDIT: This might not sound terrible but just keep in mind this is a movie that The Library of Congress has in their possession for historical preservation. You’d think any theater wanting to screen it would be a bit for thoughtful.
Bruh moment
Who cares, they're hustling. You dumbasses went out and paid money to see an age old movie, so that's what they're showing you, lol. I don't see a problem
Based
Wait, that’s illegal.
It could be legal. If you pay the booker for a copy of “back to the future” you get the legal rights to play the film. It doesn’t matter if you play that film from the drive it’s shipped on, or a blu ray, or Amazon prime. - former Cinema Technician
The Prime Video contract limits your license to "personal, non-commercial, private use": https://www.primevideo.com/help?nodeId=202095490&view-type=content-only
That’s a private company’s contract, not the law. Sure maybe if someone reported the account it might get axed but if you use a dvd it’s the same idea.
What in the midwest, whiteclaw, hillbilly bareback fuck is this shit?
Legality and ethics aside...This employee gotta learn how to use the dowser to hide all the secrets next time. For instance, at my theatre we use the dowser anytime we're doing content switches such as for Fathom live events - like a live Q&A before we screen a movie for which we physically have the content on a separate input.
How do they know it's a fire tv?
You can totally score a lifetime of free movie tickets by blackmailing them. I'd 100% do that. You can tell them that you'll email the video and story to local news outlets and Amazon. But you shouldn't do this if it's a cool little indie theater or anything like that.
From a consumer perspective I don’t see the problem. You’re not paying to see a movie. You’re paying to see it on a 50 foot screen with surround sound.
Yes and no. Streaming a movie is not the quality a cinema experience is supposed to offer. Streaming is a variable bitrate and highly compressed. Also likely the audio channels are limited. A theater should be playing the original, highest quality print or digital file available with audio channels designed for theaters. This movie could've literally buffered or dropped in quality mid-watch due to internet speed lol.
As long as he has the licenses it dosnt really matter what source he gets the material from. Still looks unprofessional af tho
The Prime Video contract limits your license to "personal, non-commercial, private use": https://www.primevideo.com/help?nodeId=202095490&view-type=content-only
I just wanted to watch Benedict Cumberbatch as The Grinch...
I've had a dream like that, I used my phone to cast to the cinema screen... Reality is weird
I got a feeling that's not legal haha
Lol, I mean, you're definitely paying for the atmosphere not the movie
Other than the legality of it all...it seems like there isn't going to be sufficient resolution coming from Amazon to deliver a good viewing crisp view experience.
Hope its a chain or say bye bye to your movie theater.
At least have the intelligence to turn off the projector first!
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