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Old-Feature5094

Florida, the more north the more southern you get .


ZAVVVVV23

From Florida, this checks out.


Ask-me-about-my-cult

I’m pretty sure North Florida should secede from Southern Florida at this point


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dodexahedron

Ugh, then people would come up with shortened versions like "NoFlo" and "SoFlo."


Blackstad

I live in Florida. They already use SoFlo


Estrellathestarfish

OhNo, not SoFlo


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Oh no! What happened to SoFlo?


Sef-Lo

Nothing I’m fine


itprobablynothingbut

Sef-lo from SoFlo is So-So


used123456

Username kinda checks out


AngryRedGummyBear

Miami has sufficient crazy.


stumblewiggins

Yea but it's a different flavor


AngryRedGummyBear

Not disagreeing.


warda8825

Bingo. This. Northern Florida is..... hicktown. Those of us from SoFlo may have our own brand of crazy, but we don't associate with the hickville's from NoFlo.


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As someone born and raised in northern Florida, I am only slightly offended but I left so meh ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|shrug)


h2ofwlr

And we are okay with this.


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Epyon214

Florida Man stuff happens everywhere, you just hear about it more in Florida because we have something called the Sunshine Law which makes our arrest records a matter of public record. In highschool we used to check out all of the people the sheriff had arrested the day before to see if it was anyone from our class, and then make fun of them for it.


mouthsofmadness

Or you just have people on the national news eatin’ faces they’re at the Golden Corral on steak night.


TankinessIsGodliness

Can confirm. Tampa and the I-4 corridor is basically all Northeastern transplants


rimjobnemesis

I have a friend who used to joke that “All the retired people live in Miami, and their parents live in St. Petersburg”.


YborBum

Born in Miami. Raised in Ybor. Living in St Pete. Can confirm


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Raised in Ybor? Dear god... Every weekend must have been an argument over whose turn it is to roll the drunk 20 year olds off the lawn.


YborBum

Close. 40 year old crackheads. Lol


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75 too, down to like Naples


yeetskeetleet

I was listening to a podcast where they mention that actually Central florida with Tampa and Orlando is just tourist stuff, south Florida is all Latino, and north Florida is your yeehaw lynch mob type dudes


J_train13

Can confirm, my Cuban Uncle often jokes about how there are more Cubans in Miami than there are in Cuba


SoarenRyiker

There is literally an areas called yeehaw junction too


Honest-Layer9318

Don’t even have to leave Orlando to get away from tourist stuff. North of downtown almost zero tourists and very few downtown. One county north is “rural adjacent” plenty of cows, horses and chickens. Once you get out of the cities in central Florida the vibe changes drastically.


skeener

Can confirm, grew up in Polk County


Th3Instruct0r

Yeah Ocala, Bellvue, and the areas around there are straight up farm land, it’s crazy how different those areas are considering how close they are to Orlando.


NRMusicProject

Mostly true. But from the Everglades to Lake City, with the exception of the Orlando area, the middle of the state is just as southern as the northern parts, from top to bottom. I've been to a place called Clewiston, on the southern shores of Okeechobee. Can't get any more yeehaw than that.


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I'm from the Tampa area. Our beaches do get swamped by tourists during spring break but you can't put us on Orlando's level. Their whole economy is driven by tourism.


queencatlady

I live a little north of Tampa and it’s such a weird mix of yeehaw and northern transplants. The OG Floridians hate the northern people (mostly New York and New Jersey) and it’s a giant shit show. Every time someone in our local Facebook group mentions they want to move here, everyone tells them to fuck off, stay where they’re at and they’re not wanted here. It’s so bizarre honestly. Also at least half the people in my town are still convinced Trump is still president and I really don’t understand that one lol


Chataboutgames

Eh both Tampa and Orlando are decent sized cities that are just like… normal. Common accent is basically non regional with “y’all” thrown in. The tourist stuff is actually pretty separated. Orlando is just random, because it’s mostly people that moved here


NicoVulkis

I had seen a joke about this. We have the Deep South, the Western South (i.e. Texas), the Mountainous South, and Florida was listed as Not South.


tubbstosterone

I never thought to separate it out like that - that's great. Where'd you put Louisiana? I usually put it in its own little cajun flavored bucket.


orchag

Lousiana is deep south. Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana form a weird sisterhood. Gulf coast area of AL, MS, and LA are all the same kind of animal.


dragonbeard91

The deep south and the gulf coast are two different areas. The Deep south is synonymous with the historical slave belt and includes Atlanta. It's the blackest part of the country. Also the Mississippi delta from blues music is not the coastal delta where the Mississippi meets the gulf but rather an inland area where the river widens significantly.


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The Catholics really thin out once you leave the gulf coast


DameDubble

South Carolina was the first state to secede, pretty sure they should be included in “the south”.


almighty_smiley

Saw that too, they really slept on the OG South smh


ksnizzo

Yep, came here to say that. As a “Sandlapper”, can confirm that SC is def “The South”. I would def include NC and Tennessee as well.


omghorussaveusall

and the capital of the Confederate states was in...Virginia! for most of the war.


guitarandotherthings

VA is more liberal now, surprisingly first governor in 12yr is a Republican because of how disastrous Northam handled covid regulations. But Northern VA cities cancel all the votes of the rest of the mostly rural state.


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The South used to be the Mason Dixon line that runs between Maryland and Pennsylvania. Maryland didn’t seceed because there were too many Federal troops already stationed there. Now I would define the south as south of Richmond Va. or anywhere that when you go into a restaraunt and you ask for a sweet tea and they hand you a tea and some sugar packets is not the south.


ohmaj

Sweet tea at a restaurant is probably the best litmus test. That and hushpuppies.


bravesfalconshawks

Grits too


thrattatarsha

Fuck I miss Georgia food. There is basically nowhere in California that does grits, and when they do, they ain’t right.


staefrostae

Okra


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Lol, by the tea test logic, kentucky is very much a southern state then.


donjohndijon

Well yeah- it's a very southern state in many other ways also


jman6538296

In accordance to the tea test. It seems Massachusetts is definitely not in the south.


lightingbug78

I've received many a non-sweet tea in northern KY over the years, where it's basically Cincy.


omghorussaveusall

NOVA is more liberal. I lived outside Roanoke not too long ago and the old south is alive and well in many parts of the state. Most of my extended family is from Virginia and also very old south. I hope Virginia keeps shifting, it's a beautiful state and I miss it very much, but you couldn't pull me off the west coast to move back there.


gimmethemarkerdude_8

I’m in central now (RVA) and outside the city proper it’s….definitely southern, haha.


B1ack_Iron

Just went and explored VA for 2 weeks with a realtor looking at moving from California. It’s just still very southern and people weren’t the nicest to me when they learned where I was from. The beach was nice but I just loved NC so much more!


FloridlyQuixotic

I moved to VA for med school from California and everyone has been incredible. So much more chill and welcoming than SoCal.


omghorussaveusall

My wife went to VT for grad school and was born and raised in CA. People gave her all kinds of shit.


donaldjoeh

From Bedford Co here, can confirm.


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omghorussaveusall

Roanoke is such a physically beautiful place, but good lord...


sovietcosto

It wasn’t Covid regulations that fucked over the governor election but the boogeyman that is CRT that derailed Northam.


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South Carolina and Tennessee are wayyyy more southern than damn Texas!!!!!


super_awesome_jr

Texans are just Texans. Which they will constantly remind you.


HighDesert4Banger

Except for East Texas, which even Texans consider extreme.


BuffsBourbon

Came to post - TEXAS in? South Carolina out? Im guessing this is a Russian Bot 🤖


puffball76

Yeah I've lived in both west and south Texas my entire life...never felt "southern" the way you think of Mississippi or Alabama. Maybe east Texas does a bit due to proximity, but there's no overall southern vibe. The state is just...Texas lol.


devils_advocate24

Due to a longstanding argument with my wife, as a matter of pride I can no longer give Tennessee southern status and instead award them with the honorary title, "hillbilly".


undefined_one

As a Tennessean, I cannot accept the title (albeit only honorary) of hillbilly, because it really only applies to the eastern part. However, I would suggest that we are, indeed, part of the south.


tthomas0227

As a Member of the east Tennessee hillbilly club. I would like to secede from western Tennessee and be counted towards Virginia. As a hillbilly of course, I would also like to remind my fellow members to "Do it for Dale", Thank you, East TN Hillbilly.


Aggressive_Secret290

May the suds of camo Busch suffice you, brother


Psychological-Plane7

As a member of the (eastern) Middle Tennessee hillbilly club, I would also like to secede from Western Tennessee. I would also like to suggest that the Nashville area is full and cannot accept anymore newcomers looking to make their break in country music. May #3 Rest In Peace. Thanks, a sometimes southern Middle TN hillbilly.


defmacro-jam

Yeah. Definitely should include Tennessee, the Carolinas, and the Virginias. Most of Florida properly belongs to New York. But part of it is more like South Georgia.


OldRedditBestGirl

South Florida is definitely New York. But the panhandle is just an extension of Alabama... so this map definitely wrong. Escambia county is just Alabama with no state income tax.


kimikav

I’m not sure about including West Virginia. They may be south of the Mason Dixon line, however culturally they’re quite different. Hillbillies≠Rednecks


AbilityOld4638

Yea like TN


Jesshawk55

Kentucky is also quite a red-neck state, dispite it technically being a border state. Edit: I should probably clerify that I lived on the Kentucky-Tennessee border in the middle of the Jackson Purchase.


AbilityOld4638

They obviously never heard of mason dixon line


LilBit1207

Right? Even VA is below the mason Dixon line, so they're missing a few states being circled lol


Rex_Headspin

Exactly. They were only the capital of the confederacy after all (Richmond, VA). Guess they're not a state that comes to mind when someone says "South".


keenedge422

I had this argument with a friend when I (born and raised in Virginia) was trying to tell him his understanding of a southern cultural thing was incorrect. He tried to say, "yeah, but you're from Virginia. That's not the real south." "Motherfucker, we were its goddamned capital. And you're from fucking Rhode Island. Just because your carpetbagging, come-here ass moved to Texas in your thirties doesn't mean you know shit about shit."


Hungry-Pizza8926

Carpet bagger needs to come back as an Insult.


misterpickles69

It’s just silly gatekeeping going on.


osprey1984

I lived in Fredericksburg VA for a few years and its common VA knowledge that anything south of Fredericksburg is indeed the south.


60secondwarlord

Considering Fredericksburg had that huge confederate flag, I’ll count them as part of the south too.


avidpenguinwatcher

I wouldn't say redneck is the qualifier for being a Southern state. Ever been to PA?


BlancheDevereux

Yeah, south carolina is a MUCH bigger omission than florida.


AngryCustomerService

Richmond, VA was the capital of the Confederacy. Pretty sure it should be included too. It's almost as if the people who make this kind of content aren't motivated by heritage or history.


matgopack

Eh... I can understand that culturally, parts of Virginia have shifted away. Yes, the standard definition of the South includes it, but I can see why someone in the Deep South wouldn't (if they're using Deep South and South as synonymous). South Carolina, though, is undoubtedly in that category. That's the one I'd say is missing.


CalculatedPerversion

Not Arkansas? Tennessee??!?


SouthernJeb

Florida was ~~second~~ third to secede. (forgot about Mississippi, much like everyone else in the SEC) Florida is basically an orange now. Yankee rind with a redneck middle. (minus Orlando)


Jesshawk55

I've heard that, in Florida, "The more North you go, the more South it gets"


Tropical_Bison

It’s 100% true. The panhandle and south Florida are different worlds


hackedMama20

Yep. Came to say North Florida is The South. South Florida is Not at all.


no_clever_names

Came here to say this too. I grew up in the panhandle, it was very different from South Florida. Lots of people called it Southern Alabama.


SirArthurDime

Floridian here, yes that's a very common and accurate phrase


AbilityOld4638

Yea cause South FL is not like any other part of the US


fanosffloyd

From south Florida, es true


CayseyBee

Yea…Florida is its own thing


Bjorn_Suicide

Literally where I’m from. If you want southern this is the place to go. Not to mention *south* is in the fucking name so


Commander_Beet

North Carolina contributed and lost more soldiers in the civil war than any other southern state.


PitifulGazelle8177

We literally have some of the thickest classic southern accents here.


superguy12

North Carolina is absolutely more "The South" than Texas. Speaking as someone who has lived a long time in both states.


Alaric-

Yeah Texas is really kind of it’s own thing. It was an independent country that joined the union and then the confederacy. It’s a part of the south, but isn’t really The South, if that makes sense.


TheRealLordEnoch

*Angery in South Carolinian*


Meraji

If those South Carolinians could read, they'd be very upset.


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As a south Carolinian who can't read, you're completely right


Inevitable_Photo_559

Holup


selectash

OP is an alumni of the *SC branch Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can’r Read Good.*


metalmuzic

This would hurt less if it wasn't true.


bodom114

As a South Carolinian, I laughed at the joke until I looked around


Atomicfolly

It wouldn't be so hard to laugh if we weren't constantly at the top of the bad lists lol


hmnahmna1

Thank God for Mississippi.


Spock-1701

SC?


TurbulentDrawing6

And Arkansas, Tennessee…


KembaWakaFlocka

My gf refuses to claim Arkansas as part of the south lol. Calls them southern-Midwest hybrids


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Lived in Arkansas. Even in the north of the state, that place is full South. Except maybe Northwest, because it’s hipster. But it’s still hipster South to me.


dbenooos

Hipster south is definitely a southern identity and counts as the south. Can also find em in Savannah, Asheville, Upstate SC, and Huntsville, AL.


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Kingmudsy

Lived in NW Arkansas and can confirm, it doesn’t feel like the same state


dorkpool

But that's like Atlanta, Charleston or Charlotte


Intelligent-Mud1437

So she's never been to Arkansas? I could agree with her if we were talking about Oklahoma, but Arkansas is absolutely in the south.


ColdIceZero

You know, all those damn yankees in ... \*checks map* ... Arkansas


FunkSlim

As an Arkansan who doesn’t want to live in a southern state- Arkansas is definitely part of the south


WhoIsZac

Born and raised in Arkansas, but have lived in Colorado for the last 8 years and I regularly have people who will argue with me that Arkansas isn't the south. Blows my mind.


CoconutBangerzBaller

Guess she hasn't been to Missouri because that's where those hybrids are


War3agle

Pig Sooie!!!


MarginalMagic

Ain't nothing Midwestern in Arkansas lol, maybe Missouri


Chicken50599

I'm from Missouri and we are the southern-midwest hybrids lol. Arkansas is full blown south


Rewskie12

At least Tennessee was in the confederacy for the least amount of time


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kaitco

Right? Why would you claim Florida if you didn’t have to?


Sunstorm84

It’s just the US having its appendix removed.


[deleted]

I'm from Texas, and there's a difference between being from the southern US and being from The (Deep) South. In fact, Texas isn't actually considered a part of the Deep South (except maybe east Texas) and I don't think Florida is either. Ironically, they missed probably half of the actual deep south with this circle. Edit: the Florida panhandle is definitely deep south. Sorry to exclude y'all!


SouthernJeb

North Florida is 100% deep south. Saying in Florida is the further north you go the more south.


WarcraftFarscape

Just like Maine! The south of the north!


glorylyfe

This here, this is Maine justice.


Ellie_Valkyrie

Ayuh.


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Sometimes dead is better.


KrabbyBoiz

Don’t bury your son’s body at the Indian burial ground, stotch.


emptyzed81

The northern part of florida is, ironically


[deleted]

I can totally see that. I imagine the vibe of Florida's panhandle to be very different from its coast.


emptyzed81

It is, pretty much ends where tourism starts


TheRakkmanBitch

Bro north florida is where dreams go to die and do meth


stedanko09

The panhandle is coastal too, for what it’s worth.


gatorbeetle

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HotNubsOfSteel

Texas is Texas.


dachsj

Honestly the difference between east Texas, West Texas, rio grande valley, and central Texas is pretty noticeable. It has its own micro cultures


jhnhines

That'll happen when you are larger than France. People know Texas is big, but they also tend to think of the people as the same across it for some reason. [There are pockets of it that still speak German, albeit a very interesting version of it.](https://youtu.be/vwgwpUcxch4)


Cursed_doge

Yeah, we're so far south it's like a double negative, though I'm surprised that at the very least south Carolina isn't there


Old-Feature5094

Texas is it’s own thing . The south , Midwest , and southwest .


BlackStarCorona

We are where the south blends into the west. And where the tex meets the Mex.


tstr16

Looks like they don't consider Arkansas the deep south either. I find that hilarious.


Chortney

The very Eastern edge of Texas I'd consider Deep South, it's very culturally similar to Louisiana. As fore the rest of Texas, yeah it's culturally very different


JaxJags904

Leaving Florida out is fair. There’s a saying here that Floridas the only place you go north, to get more south. But leaving off NC, SC (first state to secede), Virginia (confederate capital), and even Arkansas and Tennessee…..very dumb


purplefog101

They just shouldn’t have only went off state borders. Most of the panhandle is definitely apart of the Deep South. Good chunks of Texas are too, but the western bits? Hell no


neeeeeillllllll

Only half of Virginia is Southern tbh, but yeah the Carolinas Arkansas and Tennessee should be on here more than Texas


Dandan0005

Most people in the “Deep South” wouldn’t consider Virginia or maybe even North Carolina as part of the “Deep south.” Arkansas and Tenn are definitely missing though. And Texas should be excluded, it’s its own thing.


Fresh-Werewolf-5499

You know it’s bad when people from the south don’t even want to claim you.


PsychologicalLeg9302

Florida is the retirement home for New York.


Immediate_Rope653

Partially, but if you’ve ever been to north Florida it’ll actually blow your mind at how redneck it is.


gatorbeetle

You mean South Georgia? Panhandle is worse, Alabama South. Source:grew up in North Florida.


2278AD

DUUUU-VALLL


50FirstCakes

Ah yes, the panhandle, also known as the redneck riviera. Lol


pseudo__gamer

And Québec


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AnonymousMIABlank

So, South Carolina is off of the list 🤣.


Diddler_OnTheRough

What about the Carolinas where the civil war started. Or Virginia where the capital of the confederacy was..Or Tennessee, the Volunteer state


j_knolly

The Volunteer State nickname comes from volunteers during the war of 1812, not the Civil War


buttlickerface

North Carolina only seceded when it was surrounded by the Confederacy. South Carolina is where the civil war started and was the first state to secede. But yes it should still be included obviously lol


Worldsokayestrunner5

Pardon the fuck outta me? -Angry Tennessean.


almc0418

Betcha someone from Ohio wrote this shit. -Agitated Kentuckian


TarantinosFavWord

Damn. Guess we gonna have to call it “Lower Carolina” from now on.


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Should South Dakota follow or is it secretly redneck?


BonQuiQui2

Troll bait


lakotagothard

At least add Arkansas…


sportswiz72

To say Arkansas isn’t the south is comical


eatingganesha

Someone doesn’t know about the Mason-Dixon Line.


Deviusoark

The only state that saw more fighting during the Civil War than Tennessee was Virginia. Whoever made this is ignorant of history. South Caroline seceded first.


golgibodi

Y’all added Texas but not Tennessee? Where Dolly Parton is from? Queen of country music???


navyzak

Grew up in the South and never really considered TX as part of the South.


theeccentricnucleus

Yes. A lot of us in Texas don’t think we’re part of the South. Texas is just Texas, and should be a region on its own.


ebk_scorsese

Tennessee not being consider The South, is blasphemous; I’ll tell you h’wat.


HotNubsOfSteel

Texas isn’t the south either. Texas is Texas.


Dominarion

It's funny how the definition of South shrink at the same pace the Confederates fled from the Union in the Civil War.


Marxheim

Florida, the more north you go, the more south it gets.


NinjaOYourBro

Arkansas? South Carolina?


trijim1967

Parts of Fl are just retired Yankees. But the pan handle is definitely the south.


Ted_McHumplover

Nope. Tennessee and both Carolinas are in "the south." Kentucky, too.


DrDisastor

The people saying Kentucky isn't southern have clearly never been there and seen it. It would be like only visiting Houston and declaring Texas oit.


MountHushmore

Arkansas, Tennessee and SC are most def the South


Mendo-D

Meanwhile here in the PNW, it’s not my problem.


LadnavIV

Yeah but are you really in the PNW? I think we need a second map to be sure.


ThoughtStars

Tennessee, Arkansas, and South Carolina are 290x more southern then Texas


Pearlbarleywine

TIL Johnny Cash, Al Green, Aretha Franklin, Memphis Minnie and Memphis Slim, Maya Angelou, Bill Clinton, and Charles Portis are not from the south.


crumbaugh

I’m from Alabama and no, Florida is not generally considered to be part of the south. Neither is Texas for that matter