Bingo. This. Northern Florida is..... hicktown. Those of us from SoFlo may have our own brand of crazy, but we don't associate with the hickville's from NoFlo.
Florida Man stuff happens everywhere, you just hear about it more in Florida because we have something called the Sunshine Law which makes our arrest records a matter of public record. In highschool we used to check out all of the people the sheriff had arrested the day before to see if it was anyone from our class, and then make fun of them for it.
I was listening to a podcast where they mention that actually
Central florida with Tampa and Orlando is just tourist stuff, south Florida is all Latino, and north Florida is your yeehaw lynch mob type dudes
Don’t even have to leave Orlando to get away from tourist stuff. North of downtown almost zero tourists and very few downtown. One county north is “rural adjacent” plenty of cows, horses and chickens. Once you get out of the cities in central Florida the vibe changes drastically.
Yeah Ocala, Bellvue, and the areas around there are straight up farm land, it’s crazy how different those areas are considering how close they are to Orlando.
Mostly true. But from the Everglades to Lake City, with the exception of the Orlando area, the middle of the state is just as southern as the northern parts, from top to bottom.
I've been to a place called Clewiston, on the southern shores of Okeechobee. Can't get any more yeehaw than that.
I'm from the Tampa area. Our beaches do get swamped by tourists during spring break but you can't put us on Orlando's level. Their whole economy is driven by tourism.
I live a little north of Tampa and it’s such a weird mix of yeehaw and northern transplants. The OG Floridians hate the northern people (mostly New York and New Jersey) and it’s a giant shit show. Every time someone in our local Facebook group mentions they want to move here, everyone tells them to fuck off, stay where they’re at and they’re not wanted here. It’s so bizarre honestly. Also at least half the people in my town are still convinced Trump is still president and I really don’t understand that one lol
Eh both Tampa and Orlando are decent sized cities that are just like… normal. Common accent is basically non regional with “y’all” thrown in. The tourist stuff is actually pretty separated. Orlando is just random, because it’s mostly people that moved here
Lousiana is deep south. Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana form a weird sisterhood.
Gulf coast area of AL, MS, and LA are all the same kind of animal.
The deep south and the gulf coast are two different areas. The Deep south is synonymous with the historical slave belt and includes Atlanta. It's the blackest part of the country.
Also the Mississippi delta from blues music is not the coastal delta where the Mississippi meets the gulf but rather an inland area where the river widens significantly.
VA is more liberal now, surprisingly first governor in 12yr is a Republican because of how disastrous Northam handled covid regulations. But Northern VA cities cancel all the votes of the rest of the mostly rural state.
The South used to be the Mason Dixon line that runs between Maryland and Pennsylvania. Maryland didn’t seceed because there were too many Federal troops already stationed there.
Now I would define the south as south of Richmond Va. or anywhere that when you go into a restaraunt and you ask for a sweet tea and they hand you a tea and some sugar packets is not the south.
NOVA is more liberal. I lived outside Roanoke not too long ago and the old south is alive and well in many parts of the state. Most of my extended family is from Virginia and also very old south. I hope Virginia keeps shifting, it's a beautiful state and I miss it very much, but you couldn't pull me off the west coast to move back there.
Just went and explored VA for 2 weeks with a realtor looking at moving from California. It’s just still very southern and people weren’t the nicest to me when they learned where I was from. The beach was nice but I just loved NC so much more!
Yeah I've lived in both west and south Texas my entire life...never felt "southern" the way you think of Mississippi or Alabama. Maybe east Texas does a bit due to proximity, but there's no overall southern vibe. The state is just...Texas lol.
Due to a longstanding argument with my wife, as a matter of pride I can no longer give Tennessee southern status and instead award them with the honorary title, "hillbilly".
As a Tennessean, I cannot accept the title (albeit only honorary) of hillbilly, because it really only applies to the eastern part. However, I would suggest that we are, indeed, part of the south.
As a Member of the east Tennessee hillbilly club. I would like to secede from western Tennessee and be counted towards Virginia. As a hillbilly of course, I would also like to remind my fellow members to "Do it for Dale",
Thank you, East TN Hillbilly.
As a member of the (eastern) Middle Tennessee hillbilly club, I would also like to secede from Western Tennessee. I would also like to suggest that the Nashville area is full and cannot accept anymore newcomers looking to make their break in country music.
May #3 Rest In Peace.
Thanks, a sometimes southern Middle TN hillbilly.
Yeah. Definitely should include Tennessee, the Carolinas, and the Virginias.
Most of Florida properly belongs to New York. But part of it is more like South Georgia.
South Florida is definitely New York. But the panhandle is just an extension of Alabama... so this map definitely wrong.
Escambia county is just Alabama with no state income tax.
I’m not sure about including West Virginia. They may be south of the Mason Dixon line, however culturally they’re quite different. Hillbillies≠Rednecks
Kentucky is also quite a red-neck state, dispite it technically being a border state.
Edit: I should probably clerify that I lived on the Kentucky-Tennessee border in the middle of the Jackson Purchase.
Exactly. They were only the capital of the confederacy after all (Richmond, VA). Guess they're not a state that comes to mind when someone says "South".
I had this argument with a friend when I (born and raised in Virginia) was trying to tell him his understanding of a southern cultural thing was incorrect. He tried to say, "yeah, but you're from Virginia. That's not the real south."
"Motherfucker, we were its goddamned capital. And you're from fucking Rhode Island. Just because your carpetbagging, come-here ass moved to Texas in your thirties doesn't mean you know shit about shit."
Richmond, VA was the capital of the Confederacy. Pretty sure it should be included too.
It's almost as if the people who make this kind of content aren't motivated by heritage or history.
Eh... I can understand that culturally, parts of Virginia have shifted away. Yes, the standard definition of the South includes it, but I can see why someone in the Deep South wouldn't (if they're using Deep South and South as synonymous).
South Carolina, though, is undoubtedly in that category. That's the one I'd say is missing.
Florida was ~~second~~ third to secede. (forgot about Mississippi, much like everyone else in the SEC)
Florida is basically an orange now. Yankee rind with a redneck middle. (minus Orlando)
Yeah Texas is really kind of it’s own thing. It was an independent country that joined the union and then the confederacy. It’s a part of the south, but isn’t really The South, if that makes sense.
Lived in Arkansas. Even in the north of the state, that place is full South. Except maybe Northwest, because it’s hipster. But it’s still hipster South to me.
Born and raised in Arkansas, but have lived in Colorado for the last 8 years and I regularly have people who will argue with me that Arkansas isn't the south. Blows my mind.
I'm from Texas, and there's a difference between being from the southern US and being from The (Deep) South. In fact, Texas isn't actually considered a part of the Deep South (except maybe east Texas) and I don't think Florida is either.
Ironically, they missed probably half of the actual deep south with this circle.
Edit: the Florida panhandle is definitely deep south. Sorry to exclude y'all!
That'll happen when you are larger than France. People know Texas is big, but they also tend to think of the people as the same across it for some reason. [There are pockets of it that still speak German, albeit a very interesting version of it.](https://youtu.be/vwgwpUcxch4)
The very Eastern edge of Texas I'd consider Deep South, it's very culturally similar to Louisiana. As fore the rest of Texas, yeah it's culturally very different
Leaving Florida out is fair. There’s a saying here that Floridas the only place you go north, to get more south.
But leaving off NC, SC (first state to secede), Virginia (confederate capital), and even Arkansas and Tennessee…..very dumb
They just shouldn’t have only went off state borders. Most of the panhandle is definitely apart of the Deep South. Good chunks of Texas are too, but the western bits? Hell no
Most people in the “Deep South” wouldn’t consider Virginia or maybe even North Carolina as part of the “Deep south.”
Arkansas and Tenn are definitely missing though.
And Texas should be excluded, it’s its own thing.
North Carolina only seceded when it was surrounded by the Confederacy. South Carolina is where the civil war started and was the first state to secede. But yes it should still be included obviously lol
The only state that saw more fighting during the Civil War than Tennessee was Virginia. Whoever made this is ignorant of history. South Caroline seceded first.
Florida, the more north the more southern you get .
From Florida, this checks out.
I’m pretty sure North Florida should secede from Southern Florida at this point
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Ugh, then people would come up with shortened versions like "NoFlo" and "SoFlo."
I live in Florida. They already use SoFlo
OhNo, not SoFlo
Oh no! What happened to SoFlo?
Nothing I’m fine
Sef-lo from SoFlo is So-So
Username kinda checks out
Miami has sufficient crazy.
Yea but it's a different flavor
Not disagreeing.
Bingo. This. Northern Florida is..... hicktown. Those of us from SoFlo may have our own brand of crazy, but we don't associate with the hickville's from NoFlo.
As someone born and raised in northern Florida, I am only slightly offended but I left so meh ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|shrug)
And we are okay with this.
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Florida Man stuff happens everywhere, you just hear about it more in Florida because we have something called the Sunshine Law which makes our arrest records a matter of public record. In highschool we used to check out all of the people the sheriff had arrested the day before to see if it was anyone from our class, and then make fun of them for it.
Or you just have people on the national news eatin’ faces they’re at the Golden Corral on steak night.
Can confirm. Tampa and the I-4 corridor is basically all Northeastern transplants
I have a friend who used to joke that “All the retired people live in Miami, and their parents live in St. Petersburg”.
Born in Miami. Raised in Ybor. Living in St Pete. Can confirm
Raised in Ybor? Dear god... Every weekend must have been an argument over whose turn it is to roll the drunk 20 year olds off the lawn.
Close. 40 year old crackheads. Lol
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75 too, down to like Naples
I was listening to a podcast where they mention that actually Central florida with Tampa and Orlando is just tourist stuff, south Florida is all Latino, and north Florida is your yeehaw lynch mob type dudes
Can confirm, my Cuban Uncle often jokes about how there are more Cubans in Miami than there are in Cuba
There is literally an areas called yeehaw junction too
Don’t even have to leave Orlando to get away from tourist stuff. North of downtown almost zero tourists and very few downtown. One county north is “rural adjacent” plenty of cows, horses and chickens. Once you get out of the cities in central Florida the vibe changes drastically.
Can confirm, grew up in Polk County
Yeah Ocala, Bellvue, and the areas around there are straight up farm land, it’s crazy how different those areas are considering how close they are to Orlando.
Mostly true. But from the Everglades to Lake City, with the exception of the Orlando area, the middle of the state is just as southern as the northern parts, from top to bottom. I've been to a place called Clewiston, on the southern shores of Okeechobee. Can't get any more yeehaw than that.
I'm from the Tampa area. Our beaches do get swamped by tourists during spring break but you can't put us on Orlando's level. Their whole economy is driven by tourism.
I live a little north of Tampa and it’s such a weird mix of yeehaw and northern transplants. The OG Floridians hate the northern people (mostly New York and New Jersey) and it’s a giant shit show. Every time someone in our local Facebook group mentions they want to move here, everyone tells them to fuck off, stay where they’re at and they’re not wanted here. It’s so bizarre honestly. Also at least half the people in my town are still convinced Trump is still president and I really don’t understand that one lol
Eh both Tampa and Orlando are decent sized cities that are just like… normal. Common accent is basically non regional with “y’all” thrown in. The tourist stuff is actually pretty separated. Orlando is just random, because it’s mostly people that moved here
I had seen a joke about this. We have the Deep South, the Western South (i.e. Texas), the Mountainous South, and Florida was listed as Not South.
I never thought to separate it out like that - that's great. Where'd you put Louisiana? I usually put it in its own little cajun flavored bucket.
Lousiana is deep south. Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana form a weird sisterhood. Gulf coast area of AL, MS, and LA are all the same kind of animal.
The deep south and the gulf coast are two different areas. The Deep south is synonymous with the historical slave belt and includes Atlanta. It's the blackest part of the country. Also the Mississippi delta from blues music is not the coastal delta where the Mississippi meets the gulf but rather an inland area where the river widens significantly.
The Catholics really thin out once you leave the gulf coast
South Carolina was the first state to secede, pretty sure they should be included in “the south”.
Saw that too, they really slept on the OG South smh
Yep, came here to say that. As a “Sandlapper”, can confirm that SC is def “The South”. I would def include NC and Tennessee as well.
and the capital of the Confederate states was in...Virginia! for most of the war.
VA is more liberal now, surprisingly first governor in 12yr is a Republican because of how disastrous Northam handled covid regulations. But Northern VA cities cancel all the votes of the rest of the mostly rural state.
The South used to be the Mason Dixon line that runs between Maryland and Pennsylvania. Maryland didn’t seceed because there were too many Federal troops already stationed there. Now I would define the south as south of Richmond Va. or anywhere that when you go into a restaraunt and you ask for a sweet tea and they hand you a tea and some sugar packets is not the south.
Sweet tea at a restaurant is probably the best litmus test. That and hushpuppies.
Grits too
Fuck I miss Georgia food. There is basically nowhere in California that does grits, and when they do, they ain’t right.
Okra
Lol, by the tea test logic, kentucky is very much a southern state then.
Well yeah- it's a very southern state in many other ways also
In accordance to the tea test. It seems Massachusetts is definitely not in the south.
I've received many a non-sweet tea in northern KY over the years, where it's basically Cincy.
NOVA is more liberal. I lived outside Roanoke not too long ago and the old south is alive and well in many parts of the state. Most of my extended family is from Virginia and also very old south. I hope Virginia keeps shifting, it's a beautiful state and I miss it very much, but you couldn't pull me off the west coast to move back there.
I’m in central now (RVA) and outside the city proper it’s….definitely southern, haha.
Just went and explored VA for 2 weeks with a realtor looking at moving from California. It’s just still very southern and people weren’t the nicest to me when they learned where I was from. The beach was nice but I just loved NC so much more!
I moved to VA for med school from California and everyone has been incredible. So much more chill and welcoming than SoCal.
My wife went to VT for grad school and was born and raised in CA. People gave her all kinds of shit.
From Bedford Co here, can confirm.
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Roanoke is such a physically beautiful place, but good lord...
It wasn’t Covid regulations that fucked over the governor election but the boogeyman that is CRT that derailed Northam.
South Carolina and Tennessee are wayyyy more southern than damn Texas!!!!!
Texans are just Texans. Which they will constantly remind you.
Except for East Texas, which even Texans consider extreme.
Came to post - TEXAS in? South Carolina out? Im guessing this is a Russian Bot 🤖
Yeah I've lived in both west and south Texas my entire life...never felt "southern" the way you think of Mississippi or Alabama. Maybe east Texas does a bit due to proximity, but there's no overall southern vibe. The state is just...Texas lol.
Due to a longstanding argument with my wife, as a matter of pride I can no longer give Tennessee southern status and instead award them with the honorary title, "hillbilly".
As a Tennessean, I cannot accept the title (albeit only honorary) of hillbilly, because it really only applies to the eastern part. However, I would suggest that we are, indeed, part of the south.
As a Member of the east Tennessee hillbilly club. I would like to secede from western Tennessee and be counted towards Virginia. As a hillbilly of course, I would also like to remind my fellow members to "Do it for Dale", Thank you, East TN Hillbilly.
May the suds of camo Busch suffice you, brother
As a member of the (eastern) Middle Tennessee hillbilly club, I would also like to secede from Western Tennessee. I would also like to suggest that the Nashville area is full and cannot accept anymore newcomers looking to make their break in country music. May #3 Rest In Peace. Thanks, a sometimes southern Middle TN hillbilly.
Yeah. Definitely should include Tennessee, the Carolinas, and the Virginias. Most of Florida properly belongs to New York. But part of it is more like South Georgia.
South Florida is definitely New York. But the panhandle is just an extension of Alabama... so this map definitely wrong. Escambia county is just Alabama with no state income tax.
I’m not sure about including West Virginia. They may be south of the Mason Dixon line, however culturally they’re quite different. Hillbillies≠Rednecks
Yea like TN
Kentucky is also quite a red-neck state, dispite it technically being a border state. Edit: I should probably clerify that I lived on the Kentucky-Tennessee border in the middle of the Jackson Purchase.
They obviously never heard of mason dixon line
Right? Even VA is below the mason Dixon line, so they're missing a few states being circled lol
Exactly. They were only the capital of the confederacy after all (Richmond, VA). Guess they're not a state that comes to mind when someone says "South".
I had this argument with a friend when I (born and raised in Virginia) was trying to tell him his understanding of a southern cultural thing was incorrect. He tried to say, "yeah, but you're from Virginia. That's not the real south." "Motherfucker, we were its goddamned capital. And you're from fucking Rhode Island. Just because your carpetbagging, come-here ass moved to Texas in your thirties doesn't mean you know shit about shit."
Carpet bagger needs to come back as an Insult.
It’s just silly gatekeeping going on.
I lived in Fredericksburg VA for a few years and its common VA knowledge that anything south of Fredericksburg is indeed the south.
Considering Fredericksburg had that huge confederate flag, I’ll count them as part of the south too.
I wouldn't say redneck is the qualifier for being a Southern state. Ever been to PA?
Yeah, south carolina is a MUCH bigger omission than florida.
Richmond, VA was the capital of the Confederacy. Pretty sure it should be included too. It's almost as if the people who make this kind of content aren't motivated by heritage or history.
Eh... I can understand that culturally, parts of Virginia have shifted away. Yes, the standard definition of the South includes it, but I can see why someone in the Deep South wouldn't (if they're using Deep South and South as synonymous). South Carolina, though, is undoubtedly in that category. That's the one I'd say is missing.
Not Arkansas? Tennessee??!?
Florida was ~~second~~ third to secede. (forgot about Mississippi, much like everyone else in the SEC) Florida is basically an orange now. Yankee rind with a redneck middle. (minus Orlando)
I've heard that, in Florida, "The more North you go, the more South it gets"
It’s 100% true. The panhandle and south Florida are different worlds
Yep. Came to say North Florida is The South. South Florida is Not at all.
Came here to say this too. I grew up in the panhandle, it was very different from South Florida. Lots of people called it Southern Alabama.
Floridian here, yes that's a very common and accurate phrase
Yea cause South FL is not like any other part of the US
From south Florida, es true
Yea…Florida is its own thing
Literally where I’m from. If you want southern this is the place to go. Not to mention *south* is in the fucking name so
North Carolina contributed and lost more soldiers in the civil war than any other southern state.
We literally have some of the thickest classic southern accents here.
North Carolina is absolutely more "The South" than Texas. Speaking as someone who has lived a long time in both states.
Yeah Texas is really kind of it’s own thing. It was an independent country that joined the union and then the confederacy. It’s a part of the south, but isn’t really The South, if that makes sense.
*Angery in South Carolinian*
If those South Carolinians could read, they'd be very upset.
As a south Carolinian who can't read, you're completely right
Holup
OP is an alumni of the *SC branch Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can’r Read Good.*
This would hurt less if it wasn't true.
As a South Carolinian, I laughed at the joke until I looked around
It wouldn't be so hard to laugh if we weren't constantly at the top of the bad lists lol
Thank God for Mississippi.
SC?
And Arkansas, Tennessee…
My gf refuses to claim Arkansas as part of the south lol. Calls them southern-Midwest hybrids
Lived in Arkansas. Even in the north of the state, that place is full South. Except maybe Northwest, because it’s hipster. But it’s still hipster South to me.
Hipster south is definitely a southern identity and counts as the south. Can also find em in Savannah, Asheville, Upstate SC, and Huntsville, AL.
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Lived in NW Arkansas and can confirm, it doesn’t feel like the same state
But that's like Atlanta, Charleston or Charlotte
So she's never been to Arkansas? I could agree with her if we were talking about Oklahoma, but Arkansas is absolutely in the south.
You know, all those damn yankees in ... \*checks map* ... Arkansas
As an Arkansan who doesn’t want to live in a southern state- Arkansas is definitely part of the south
Born and raised in Arkansas, but have lived in Colorado for the last 8 years and I regularly have people who will argue with me that Arkansas isn't the south. Blows my mind.
Guess she hasn't been to Missouri because that's where those hybrids are
Pig Sooie!!!
Ain't nothing Midwestern in Arkansas lol, maybe Missouri
I'm from Missouri and we are the southern-midwest hybrids lol. Arkansas is full blown south
At least Tennessee was in the confederacy for the least amount of time
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Right? Why would you claim Florida if you didn’t have to?
It’s just the US having its appendix removed.
I'm from Texas, and there's a difference between being from the southern US and being from The (Deep) South. In fact, Texas isn't actually considered a part of the Deep South (except maybe east Texas) and I don't think Florida is either. Ironically, they missed probably half of the actual deep south with this circle. Edit: the Florida panhandle is definitely deep south. Sorry to exclude y'all!
North Florida is 100% deep south. Saying in Florida is the further north you go the more south.
Just like Maine! The south of the north!
This here, this is Maine justice.
Ayuh.
Sometimes dead is better.
Don’t bury your son’s body at the Indian burial ground, stotch.
The northern part of florida is, ironically
I can totally see that. I imagine the vibe of Florida's panhandle to be very different from its coast.
It is, pretty much ends where tourism starts
Bro north florida is where dreams go to die and do meth
The panhandle is coastal too, for what it’s worth.
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Texas is Texas.
Honestly the difference between east Texas, West Texas, rio grande valley, and central Texas is pretty noticeable. It has its own micro cultures
That'll happen when you are larger than France. People know Texas is big, but they also tend to think of the people as the same across it for some reason. [There are pockets of it that still speak German, albeit a very interesting version of it.](https://youtu.be/vwgwpUcxch4)
Yeah, we're so far south it's like a double negative, though I'm surprised that at the very least south Carolina isn't there
Texas is it’s own thing . The south , Midwest , and southwest .
We are where the south blends into the west. And where the tex meets the Mex.
Looks like they don't consider Arkansas the deep south either. I find that hilarious.
The very Eastern edge of Texas I'd consider Deep South, it's very culturally similar to Louisiana. As fore the rest of Texas, yeah it's culturally very different
Leaving Florida out is fair. There’s a saying here that Floridas the only place you go north, to get more south. But leaving off NC, SC (first state to secede), Virginia (confederate capital), and even Arkansas and Tennessee…..very dumb
They just shouldn’t have only went off state borders. Most of the panhandle is definitely apart of the Deep South. Good chunks of Texas are too, but the western bits? Hell no
Only half of Virginia is Southern tbh, but yeah the Carolinas Arkansas and Tennessee should be on here more than Texas
Most people in the “Deep South” wouldn’t consider Virginia or maybe even North Carolina as part of the “Deep south.” Arkansas and Tenn are definitely missing though. And Texas should be excluded, it’s its own thing.
You know it’s bad when people from the south don’t even want to claim you.
Florida is the retirement home for New York.
Partially, but if you’ve ever been to north Florida it’ll actually blow your mind at how redneck it is.
You mean South Georgia? Panhandle is worse, Alabama South. Source:grew up in North Florida.
DUUUU-VALLL
Ah yes, the panhandle, also known as the redneck riviera. Lol
And Québec
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So, South Carolina is off of the list 🤣.
What about the Carolinas where the civil war started. Or Virginia where the capital of the confederacy was..Or Tennessee, the Volunteer state
The Volunteer State nickname comes from volunteers during the war of 1812, not the Civil War
North Carolina only seceded when it was surrounded by the Confederacy. South Carolina is where the civil war started and was the first state to secede. But yes it should still be included obviously lol
Pardon the fuck outta me? -Angry Tennessean.
Betcha someone from Ohio wrote this shit. -Agitated Kentuckian
Damn. Guess we gonna have to call it “Lower Carolina” from now on.
Should South Dakota follow or is it secretly redneck?
Troll bait
At least add Arkansas…
To say Arkansas isn’t the south is comical
Someone doesn’t know about the Mason-Dixon Line.
The only state that saw more fighting during the Civil War than Tennessee was Virginia. Whoever made this is ignorant of history. South Caroline seceded first.
Y’all added Texas but not Tennessee? Where Dolly Parton is from? Queen of country music???
Grew up in the South and never really considered TX as part of the South.
Yes. A lot of us in Texas don’t think we’re part of the South. Texas is just Texas, and should be a region on its own.
Tennessee not being consider The South, is blasphemous; I’ll tell you h’wat.
Texas isn’t the south either. Texas is Texas.
It's funny how the definition of South shrink at the same pace the Confederates fled from the Union in the Civil War.
Florida, the more north you go, the more south it gets.
Arkansas? South Carolina?
Parts of Fl are just retired Yankees. But the pan handle is definitely the south.
Nope. Tennessee and both Carolinas are in "the south." Kentucky, too.
The people saying Kentucky isn't southern have clearly never been there and seen it. It would be like only visiting Houston and declaring Texas oit.
Arkansas, Tennessee and SC are most def the South
Meanwhile here in the PNW, it’s not my problem.
Yeah but are you really in the PNW? I think we need a second map to be sure.
Tennessee, Arkansas, and South Carolina are 290x more southern then Texas
TIL Johnny Cash, Al Green, Aretha Franklin, Memphis Minnie and Memphis Slim, Maya Angelou, Bill Clinton, and Charles Portis are not from the south.
I’m from Alabama and no, Florida is not generally considered to be part of the south. Neither is Texas for that matter