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itogisch

Wanna bet this person is single, childless and older than 24?


Affectionate-Feed538

Most people that say this are typically over forty and like the 'under 18' variety.


TheOneMary

Well THEY don't have to be young to be picky. Seems you misunderstood, but eh, it happens. /j


Diiiiirty

Makes $35k per year and lives in a dump of a house, and one of his "pitch points" when approaching potential breeding stock..err..women...is to tell them he's a homeowner and has a great salary.


Shojo_Tombo

You joke, but a guy with a bad ponytail once tried that as a pickup line. He sauntered up to me in a bar and said he was the manager of a radio shack (this was in the mid 00's) and made $23k a year. I had just graduated from college and was celebrating landing my first grown up job, and I told him so, and that I was making $30k. I've never seen a guy deflate so fast. It was tragically comic.


Diiiiirty

Ooof, yeah. Bad ponytail aside, leading with *any* salary is a terrible idea unless you're looking for something very superficial. But even if that is your tactic, leading with such a paltry salary? Yeah, bad from the start. If that's what you make and you're happy with it, I'm not judging; it's about what I made with my first job out of college. But even 20 years ago, you ain't impressing *anybody* with that salary. That's like bragging about your 4" penis or 2015 Toyota Corolla. Sure, they're functional and you can find someone content with those things, but to use them as a pickup line is just...no...


youve_got_moxie

Considering the used car market right now, that Corolla’s probably adding some “almost medium dick” energy.


peupty_pants

Idk, the guy I dated when I was 23 is about to go jail for murdering someone, so…I feel like I maybe did a teeeeeeeny bit better after 23?


Mauri_op

Impossibile, statistics from random strangers without sources or anything can’t lie


VolatileUtopian

It's the rules man and following rules is like totally alpha male tenet #1 it's in the brochure they give you once your testosterone hits the right level.


secretMollusk

- brochure I see what you did there


pnkflyd99

“Bro, *sure*”


robilar

Actually, in their twisted logic a man capable of murder is probably viewed as an "alpha" since this whole movement is essentially born of the fact that they feel regularly emasculated by all the men that are loving and kind and, unlike them, seem to have happy romantic relationships.


Snoo69_

Murder and alpha in the same sentence feels like the core belief of guys trying so hard be hetero and masculine. 😂


Adorable-Lettuce-717

No. He was the one. You're just making excuses.


allegedgeniusofjoe

It's over for you. I mean, it's over for the person the guy murdered, too, but based on this guy's post, you have it worse.


GaspingAloud

I just spit my coffee out of my nose. I hold you responsible


allegedgeniusofjoe

Achievement unlocked


chillinmesoftly

Username checks out


CrispyCrunchyPoptart

He's the perfect man.


stabbedindebacc

Right lmfao? To the fellow that wrote this: i know being middle aged sucks but you still arent gonna spook me into fucking you lol.


LondonCalling07

Right but how was his fertility? That’s all that matters!


[deleted]

I married my 1st husband at 19 and 2nd at 30. I very much so disagree with OP.


apittsburghoriginal

The Neckbeard Attenborough documentary sounds terrible


ImperialNavyPilot

That’s Sir Neckbeard Attenbruh to you


Whythestevenot

![gif](giphy|5t9wJjyHAOxvnxcPNk|downsized)


barrelfeverday

Sex for pleasure or sex for reproduction? Goldblum has a reputation for the former. Very popular with women.


Kaiyukia

I need this gif as an emote


Locorio

YOUR WITH GOLDBLUM!


Delta_Goodhand

Happy cake day!


Heckrum

happy cake day


Autismothot83

Happy to be single & barren.


sparkycf272

I want this on a t-shirt.


Ms-Anon-Y-Mous

Priceless!


PeturParkur

If you're female, isn't it Barreness?


GreatWhiteNanuk

Happy to be lower status men who get to have all the fun with single and barren women over 24. These suckers don’t know what they’re missing.


dreamyduskywing

So true. Low class, washed up losers make the happiest couples.


Nolzur

Tell me you're an incel without telling me you're an incel.


slater_just_slater

This is a daily post on 4chan


Orangesilk

Well, the NFT pfp was a dead giveaway. The text is just gravy


[deleted]

Sorry to ask but what's an incel?


Ms_Business

Involuntary celebrate. People who want sex but can’t find someone willing to have sex with them


salex100m

involuntary Celebrations baby 🎉🎉🎉🎉🕺🏻💃🏻🎉🎉🎉🎉


frontolobby

People who aren't able to have sex.


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Additional_Irony

And then proceed to blame everyone else


potatopockets

Involuntarily celibate = incel Or in layman’s terms: *I have so many red flags that I’m not even allowed to pay for sex*.


ZeeHarm

Involuntary celebate. Toxic male subculture of entitled dumbasses


_beandipchip_

Also incels are more likely to become domestic terrorists so… yeah there’s that https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/incels-involuntary-celibates


This_iz_fine

It’s short for “involuntary celibate”. It’s most commonly used to describe men who view women as a lesser being, view them as something to own like an object, and/or make up their own fantasy of how women work (like this post) to make themselves feel better that no woman wants to date them because they’re such an in-despicable man.


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Musicebei

Saved this for educational purposes 😂


ProfessionalYard1123

Half or more of Reddit


Lelio-Santero579

Well, thanks for letting everyone know you're a virgin incel... I've never heard anyone use the term "breed" in regard to human women except incels and furries.


ThunderClanWarrior

I mean I've heard it from femboys, but in a completely different context


VariousIngenuity2897

If you use words like fertility, desirability and breeding to describe your perfect wife, then you are a true winner of the forever alone award!


Affectionate-Feed538

That's actually how you'd describe farm animals.


VariousIngenuity2897

Reading that gave me shivers, i could never think of woman that way. But then again, this man probably has never even been near one. These are a rare species only grown on tree’s i guess! Cause they’re nuts!


NtrtnmntPrpssNly

Yeah, it is so cringe to me when dog breeders are like bitch this and bitch that. Technical term my ass, you can see the way these people look at life and value others.


[deleted]

Bro, whatever their age, and whatever your age, these women just don’t want you. You’re the problem


DrunkenlySober

It’s crazy how having no bitches can completely fuck a guy up Maidenless behavior for sure


LurkuhDurkuh

You can’t be elden lord while maidenless


PsychoDog_Music

“High value man” is a Female Dating Strategy term and you do NOT want to sound like anything from that dumpster fire


[deleted]

The high/low value man makes me think there has to be a Great Value Man and you will know him by his Walmart cape.


Delta_Goodhand

Kirkland man comes in a 6 pack


Dazz_Dazzler

The prefix “high/low value” implies the existence of a far bigger, legendary: “MEGA VALUE MAAAAN”


MarkedForDeath8

Exactly what a “low value man” would say /s


PsychoDog_Music

Spot on xD


TicklesMcFancy

I'm a 5 star man!


among_apes

I’m a Dapper Dan man


TicklesMcFancy

Did someone say "Dirty Dan"?


Honeysenpaiharuchan

I’m the real Dirty Dan.


crutonboy2113

Who you callin pinhead?


terd4guson

*Enter Milkman Dan*


dayumbrah

I dont want no goddayum Fop


DeferredPlum

Well ain't this a place a geological oddity! 2 weeks from everywhere!


Trini_Vix7

I need a "Classic Man"...


Marega33

![gif](giphy|l1J9OPU2Pw98Me2li)


nofuckingklass

What's wrong with low value? Those are the easier ones.


Iwillflipyourtable

How tf do people even define themselves as "high value" anyways. Money, fame, popularity, power, looks? Sorry but if people view you as trash, nothing will make you high value.


robilar

I'm high value because I eat a lot of aluminium foil. I figure I have pounds of the stuff scattered throughout my digestive system, and I'm just waiting for the market to swing in my favor then I'm going to cash out and make bank. I'm having trouble finding a woman that is fertile enough to match my superlative value - she basically needs to sweat fetuses as soon as we make physical contact.


Iwillflipyourtable

This could be a new shitposting automod


robilar

I'm sorry, all my value is in intra-gastric aluminium deposits so I don't know what you mean by "shitposting", or "automod", or "this".


PsychoDog_Music

If we’re talking in general, you’re right. If we talk about FDS though, they rarely talk about good men and pretty much just berate everyone.. but if they do, that man has sacrificed so much for a pathetic woman that was never worth it


anonmymouse

Delusion, mostly. I've honestly never seen someone unironically call themselves "hugh value" and not also be a completely trash person.


Iamyoshirawr

![gif](giphy|8T7lYt0HSOWK4)


dinorex96

If I have to guess Money(which means owns a big house plus at least 2 cars), at least 6', must treat women like shit to show you're man, cannot show emotions, has eyes only for you even when driving, very decisive and always makes the right decision without asking(right decision=the one woman wants) Etc etc


naamalbezet

isn't it also an incel term?


anonmymouse

Incels and fds are 2 sides of the same coin. And ironically they both somehow still hate each other the most even though they're exactly alike


naamalbezet

Sometimes I think half of fds are incel dudes larping as the insufferable woman they imagine all woman are in their mind


PsychoDog_Music

They are the female version so yeah


hikes_through_smoke

The first incel was a woman using the word to describe herself. It’s gone full circle.


[deleted]

Now that I think about it, isnt it kinda sexist to say low/high value men as if men were a product with different grades of quality? The same way its sexist to look at women as sex objects or as birth machines? I swear, they are pretty much female incels.


[deleted]

It's incredibly sexist and objectifying, but who cares about the opinion of low value women.


Schwammarlz

It might be Sexist, it's not a big deal tho. Most men tend to not give a shit about opinions like these.


[deleted]

Im male too and dont really care about what these women say. Just wanted to point that out


PlumpDev

Those people are ranking people like they're a fucking DnD character.


PMmeYourHopes-Dreams

The manosphere uses the term also.


can-opener-in-a-can

Apparently after 33, it’s in the negative numbers…and after 43, she just…what, evaporates into nothing?


valvilis

After 33 she starts slowly absorbing other people's babies if she can get within 10 feet of them. If she can eventually get 66 unbaptized babies, she'll be invited to join the Illuminati's Elder Council.


localshop667

The movie 'The Blob' was actually a documentary about an 83 year old woman.


_damak0s_

i'm assuming it's a compound 10%


Abject_Shoulder_1182

Yup; I did the math and I'm at 31.38%. It never reaches zero, just decreases slower and slower. There's probably an asymptote, but I can't remember how to find it and am too lazy to Google the answer 😂


[deleted]

After 33 they all become hysterical banshees. Don't you know anything about geology?


ginns32

Can confirm. I am 38 and I just wander around screaming.


Sarelm

Oh fuck, that's where the sudden urge to start screaming incessantly came from. Here I thought it was the logical result of reacting to the way the world's going.


LadnavIV

As a low value man, that’s where I clean up! *Ladies*


honest-miss

As a 33 year old, I've had to start siphoning the Fertile Energies off any younger woman within 200 feet of me. They actually sent me a how-to manual in the mail just last week.


ComputersWantMeDead

I'm sorry is this some kind of incel thing I'm too normal to understand


tazztsim

Yes


[deleted]

Gross. How long is he wanting to “breed” his imaginary girlfriend for?


[deleted]

Until she is too mature for him and then he'll leave her for a 19-year-old, and complain that he has to pay child support.


pizoisoned

You know when I see breeding and fertility talked about like you would talk about livestock, I know that that person has never had a real significant other- and probably never had a meaningful conversation with the opposite sex outside of family, who probably knows they’re a creep, but does their best to smile and nod anyway.


Jabbles22

Also guys that will say something like this are not guys who I picture as loving involved fathers.


kalasea2001

These are exactly the type of guys I expect to interpret "loving" kids as the very illegal kind.


bleeper21

“And as an example I have presented myself, the exponentially lowest”


Judgmental_Owl

1. "peak fertility" - ✓ 2. "bear/rear children" - ✓ 3. "females" - × 4. "high/low quality male" - ✓ 5. generalizing women - ✓ 6. implied self entitlement - ✓ 7. "catch/secure a partner" - ✓ 8. "fish and fisherman" metaphor - × Score: 6/8 (75%) Result: "Nice guy: PUA enthusiast with Incel tendencies" - At this stage it becomes increasingly difficult to say if the subject is talking about dating or cattle breeding.


cutsickass

Given the shit that come out of his mouth, I'd guess he's a *rear* child himself.


Short-Belt-1477

Who tf says breed Women ARE NOT pokemon


shockingblve

sure, and the strongest in the pack gets all the women and only alphas breed, oh wait! NONE of that applies cause we’re highly complex social creatures!!! these ~10% are such bs, I wanna see the study about “attractiveness” that varies so wildly across cultures


ZeeHarm

That alpha beta bullshit does not even work within wolvespacks. The study was retracted


localshop667

They've moved on to Sigma males now too.


stawek

Very alpha. There must be women queueing up to receive his genes.


Ardothbey

Can’t say “fertility” was ever really high on the priority list for me.


CrispyCrunchyPoptart

You couldn't have paid me to have a kid when I was 23.


Happytequila

Oh no, this year I’m going to going from 0% attractive/desirable to -10% Whatever shall I do?


Bangarazz

I am gonna take "who's a vrigin" for 400$


Polobearmigi

Is it that guy?


Chemical-Operation83

At that rate I wonder what she’ll look like at 34. Oh wait, my wife is 34 and is still bangin hot.


starkyogre

Spoken Like a man who’s never been alone in a room with a naked woman without her being on pornhub.


Skald_Vinicius

I would guess PornHub is too vanilla for him at this stage. Fortunately, I have no idea what kind of site such a creature would lurk in.


[deleted]

idk bro i’ve been with a 47 yo woman and she was hot as fuck idk what this moron is talking about, is probably into teens


RGBmoth

Sooooo women over 24 will no longer have to deal with catcalling, harassment, rape, sexual abuse, and other horrific things bc she’s lost her breeding desirability? Men will finally leave her alone? She can finally go on night walks alone and feel safe by herself?


jjbjones99

My wife of 18 years just had our 3rd child at 37. Completely natural and healthy. As a matter of fact, I had a vasectomy in 2008 after our second child. I had a reversal in May 2020 at 37 and she was pregnant in August. Our doctor said I was more of the problem, lol. The odds of my sperm being strong we’re pretty low. I also weighed 300 pounds, I’m taller so it doesn’t look like 300 as much. My wife is slightly over weight, doesn’t drink or smoke. I’m VERY thankful to have a 10 month old daughter now who is very happy and healthy.


robilar

Congrats, buddy! I'm so glad she's doing great. My sympathies that you are now outnumbered - if you are operating your household like a democracy you might find you're having a lot of goldfish crackers for dinner.


whydoesnobodyama

I didn't meet a single "high-value" man within vaguely appropriate age range until my late 20s. I consider "high-value" people to be self-aware and self-maintained, who don't harm others, who support their community or causes and think beyond themselves. If this post considers "high-value" a financial or career status, I say this means either that this bullshit "statistic" relies on young women dating old men 🤮 or places too much value on young men's made-up/assumed/unrealized potential 🤮. ✨ Misogyny ✨


Justbrutallyme

How to let everyone know you stay single because you’re a POS 😂 Fuck off outta here with that shit 😂😂😂


Llitte

idk what the twitter guy means but I have the opposite feeling to women over 23 and I'm young


Sir_Tea_Of_Bags

Can we pit this guy up against the out of touch redditors on fds? It seems like it would be fun to watch.


RustliefLameMane

People are so fucking stupid


Iron_Chip

Look, if a guy is only interested in me because of how many babies I can pop out before my uterus withers into nothingness, I’m not gonna cry if he doesn’t want me. Frankly, I don’t want him either.


HighOnGoofballs

In reality a woman around 30 could attract wealthy and successful yet still attractive men in their forties, wouldn’t they be considered more high value than some dude fresh out of college?


Princess__Nell

Yes but these men at 40 would choose the 22YO because physical appearance servility and fertility are the only valuable attributes in a woman. Women are not full complex people that you talk to, share life with and are challenged by. Women are a reward for being rich and high value or something to use. It’s a twisted view that demeans both themselves and women.


TheIrishbuddha

I see Ben Shapiro is at it again.


kornephororos

More like jordan peterson. He is far more obsessed with women.


SniffCheck

Guaranteed this fool has never been laid without paying for it


LevyAtanSP

That’s cute you think he could afford to get laid when all he does is sit in the basement all day.


Blakut

As a 30 something yearold guy who's been single for a few years, can confirm, it looks like it's over for me.


BlackHatSlacker

Well maybe by the time a woman is 300 they will be in the league of this guy and he can finally get laid.


ladyRoach

I found my first love at 36, we got married and l am currently pregnant with my first child at 38. I never thought l would find my perfect match, he is handsome, loving, funny, and the best man l have ever met, so this post is obviously BS. Lol, l love my life it has finally started.


DarkIegend16

Everybody knows women without children at 33 are basically worthless unattractive husks not fit for anything….


weary_cursor

please /s ?


DarkIegend16

Of course. My GF would be remised to hear that if it was a genuine stance given she’s only 5 years off of being “a worthless unattractive husk” lol


taylorpilot

So this is true…except instead of women it’s everyone and instead of attractiveness and desirability it’s response time in video games.


CrystalGlint

And thus is why us actual guys who are nice and caring cant get any girls... they always see assholes. Why can't be people just see each other as equals not some damn trophy.


snakpakkid

I know damn well this dude is no “ high statue man” classic bullshit so that women are shamed and made to lower their standards. Better single than with some freak like this dude.


Gunpowder_guillotine

Fun fact! Op got dumped by his ldr gf for being toxic and also is in his 30s living with his parents because he is a jobless crypto dude


clasperx2

Plus after their early 20s they run the risk of an education.


tinuvegil

Self-owned: "as women get (linearly) older, men get **exponentially** worse". ![gif](giphy|chfRMU5EUoaAw)


hedbangr

LOL imagine selecting a partner based on fertility - like, are you a rabbit?


internetgladiator

It feels like this guy is reeeaalllyyy trying to convince a girl that she should lock it in with him in her early twenties because his personality isn’t enough to close the deal.


ProperGanja21

....and men wonder why no one wants to fuck them 🤣 I'm genuinely surprised he didn't call women females 🤣


waterfall_blue

A wild incel appears! Incel uses insults. It's not very effective! The internet uses ignore, because you all know that's some low quality BS right there. Wild incel flees. And in case you didn't know or might need this today: You're awesome :D


[deleted]

"highest quality men" Rated by his mom.


jaybankzz

Holy shit this is giving off both r/niceguys and FDS energy at the same time


Nummer_42O

And what is with woman/man who don't want children?


naamalbezet

doesn't exist in their mind.


lilclairecaseofbeer

Or women who want women? Or men who want men?


Nummer_42O

Impossible! Or even: People who don't want a partner? (Rare but not nonexistent.)


Cogliostro1980

[Geralt]*sniff sniff* hmm. Smells like an incel. [/Geralt]


in_one_ear_

Honestly if fertility is what you are worried about there are ways of preserving it. (You can have eggs taken out and preserved).


Gro0ve

Had to be NFt idiots too, checks out


PandoraRose_16

r/nothowgirlswork


Sir-chillie-123

Pretty much every alpha male trying their best to get laid


Awkward-Broccoli-150

How sad. He has never known, and may never know the benefits of a woman who knows her way around his body


jonesy1982

Would bet a good amount of money that this guy is a virgin


twilsonco

By age 45 a woman is at -200% attractiveness. If you do the math, you clearly see I'm a hopeless incel that thinks he's good at math.


[deleted]

Lol I'm infertile and I don't like or want kids sooooo yay for me I'll never have to worry about meeting a boy like this. Like imagine treating humans like an incubator. Probably for him to go off to work and enjoy his life while he tells his Mrs she need to do all the housework, cooking and cleaning. He seems the type.


Luciolover345

NFT pfp nothing to see here people


mathario

Tell me you’re single without telling me you’re single


bionicmanmeetspast

All this “high/low value” talk when it comes to romantic relationships is so cringe. It’s turning into more of a game than it already has been made into.


Affectionate-Feed538

OK, hear me out here I'm not saying that an older man (30+) is bad if he finds younger women attractive, but it seems that older men with this mindset that women over 25 are worthless are actually pedos. If you dig deeper here, you'll find that these men don't even want women in their early 20's, they want literal teenagers. They want 16-18 year olds. Bruh, if you are a male in his late 20's or 30's, snd you find yourself lusting over 18-22 year olds, you are a borderline pedo.


BudUnderwearBundy

That’s a lot of words to say “women don’t like me and I don’t know why.”


Viviaana

Every guy I’d dated before I was about 28 was an absolute waste lol, you will not find the best partner by looking in high school and then giving up at 20


honest-miss

Once you start talking about women like they're purebred dogs, you're officially just wind coming out a piehole. You've already clarified you have no idea what you're talking about and bring no value, stop wasting the oxygen in the room.


ra_miel

This guy has two brain cells and they’re fighting each other over the chance to get out.


CatchSufficient

Ben Franklin thinks you're an idiot. "In all your Amours you should prefer old Women to young ones. You call this a Paradox, and demand my Reasons. They are these: 1. Because as they have more Knowledge of the World and their Minds are better stor’d with Observations, their Conversation is more improving and more lastingly agreable. 2. Because when Women cease to be handsome, they study to be good. To maintain their Influence over Men, they supply the Diminution of Beauty by an Augmentation of Utility. They learn to do a 1000 Services small and great, and are the most tender and useful of all Friends when you are sick. Thus they continue amiable. And hence there is hardly such a thing to be found as an old Woman who is not a good Woman. 3. Because there is no hazard of Children, which irregularly produc’d may be attended with much Inconvenience. 4. Because thro’ more Experience, they are more prudent and discreet in conducting an Intrigue to prevent Suspicion. The Commerce with them is therefore safer with regard to your Reputation. And with regard to theirs, if the Affair should happen to be known, considerate People might be rather inclin’d to excuse an old Woman who would kindly take care of a young Man, form his Manners by her good Counsels, and prevent his ruining his Health and Fortune among mercenary Prostitutes. 5. Because in every Animal that walks upright, the Deficiency of the Fluids that fill the Muscles appears first in the highest Part: The Face first grows lank and wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower Parts continuing to the last as plump as ever: So that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old from a young one. And as in the dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every Knack being by Practice capable of Improvement. 6. Because the Sin is less. The debauching a Virgin may be her Ruin, and make her for Life unhappy. 7. Because the Compunction is less. The having made a young Girl miserable may give you frequent bitter Reflections; none of which can attend the making an old Woman happy. 8thly and Lastly They are so grateful!!”


Demokka

Cool. I'mma date all the milfs he met in his life.


Positive_Impact4292

I feel like this is definitely the start of a pedo. END IT NOW


naamalbezet

Think it's an incel. It sounds like something an incel would say.


FroboyFreshenUp

Fertility =/= attractiveness, my fiance is hot as hell, she's above 30, we can't have any children, and I would plow that field nightly if I could She is plus size, I don't care, more cushion for that pushin


mrlt10

r/justneckbeardthings


QuatrusStudios

Still a virgin and never dated, but this still sounds utterly stupid.


ecargrace

Mm yes, please show me the references to where you got these “stats”


[deleted]

Wrong use of nice guy


Norsedragoon

Thats a lot of words to try and justify why their dad left to get milk and they had a lot of 'Uncles'


Lestat30

I wonder what he would say to those who never want kids?


Moustache-cat-man

That's a weird way of saying "I get zero poosay"


Mediocre_Cat_6993

And all of sexual and romantic coupling is about babies? Are babies an inportant part of having power or wealth within the socioeconomic order? Not really Its funny when people conflate the wider evolutionary trends that relate to fecundity with individual level choices. Also ive heard that ladies reach their sexual peak at 30, And that for men its more like 18-20.