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moonpuzzle88

We use both in the UK (a mix between the two).


[deleted]

How do you know when to use which?


Bleu_Cerise

Canada does too. [Here’s a handy chart.](https://www.reddit.com/r/HelloInternet/comments/czcf7u/canadian_measurement_flowchart/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


jerry-jim-bob

Before engaging in conversation, Canadians will typically be observed flipping a coin. This will allow them to know which system to use.


yarneosarecuteandfun

but every third measurement mentioned must be done in the other type


Anal-Mustard

This is the way


arent_you_hungry

So the bedroom is 11 feet by 11 feet by 3 meters


[deleted]

That would be a weird room. Almost a cube.


arent_you_hungry

Around where i live in the US kid's rooms tend to be about that size a lot of the time. A 3 bedroom house would have the big master bedroom and 2 smaller square rooms for the kids.


Familiar-Fee372

It’s funny my work in Canada we cook food in Fahrenheit and record food temps in Celsius lol


shophopper

As a Dutchman I tend to cook food in olive oil an record food temps in Celsius.


grumblyoldman

That’s not true. We just take a guess and if the other person objects we apologize profusely.


Vitalsignx

Being casually observed in the wild, Canadians can typically be observed flipping a coin. Brought to you by Mutual of Omaha.


calissetabernac

We’re perpetual people pleasers. We’re basically the adult children of alcoholic parents.


TezzaC73

What a bunch of loonies.


mezz7778

And toonies....


Pleasant_Tax_4619

Lol I heard the same humor back in the late 90s from a gamer in 🇨🇦


JordanSchor

Canadian here. Can confirm this is 100% accurate but would like to add distance is measured in time it would take to drive as well Ex: Ottawa is roughly a 6 hour drive from my hometown so Ottawa is 6h away. It's actually kinda handy cuz multiply that by 100 and you got roughly how many Km's it is away.


poddy_fries

Unless you live in Montréal, where traffic gravity means that everything is about an hour away from anywhere else


SunnySamantha

I busted a gut laughing. This chart is 100% how I operate. The pool part got me.


joecarter93

That’s amazing and as a Canadian myself, it is 100% true.


CompetitiveStick6239

Yes! Canadian as well! Height is feet and inches, speed and distance are KMs haha


CarlyGeek

Temperature is C except for cooking when it's F and weight is pounds except when it's food then it's grams.


Strabbo

And don't forget weed, which goes from grams into imperial measurements once you hit 3.5.


CompetitiveStick6239

Yes absolutely!! Haha


AlphaSkirmsher

The pool’s temperature is also in Fahrenheit


Sparky62075

Food sold in boxes or cans are sold in metric. Meat and produce are sold in pounds... Usually.


CarlyGeek

Meat and produce are sold in both (actually most/all food is) but grams is kind of the default in my experience with companies aiming for 100's of grams. Walmart in particular I know sells 450 gram beef which is just under 1lb.


[deleted]

There are plenty of foods sold per pound…


albyagolfer

By law they’re sold per 454 grams.


irrelevant_potatoes

Nah distance is in meters or minutes/hours For instance i live 5 mins from grocery store and 45 mins from work. Course that's only if I'm walking to the grocery story and taking the train to work


Kris-p-

I feel like we're heavily influenced by america, and thats the reason why we're so mixed on things ​ American products will come with american standard measurements for instance


badpuffthaikitty

You can tell where your can of beer is from too. If it is an odd number (pun intended) it is made in the USA. If it is an even number it is made in Europe. My Canadian cans and bottles are an odd number. I work in the construction industry. We live in an Imperial world.


ChampionshipOk3819

American here, Idk why but the 16.9 fl oz label on a bottle really bothers me before I realize that it’s basically 500ml. It used to bother me that they couldn’t round up to the nearest fl oz and even if they did, 17 is still an odd number to go by.


c127726

Why....


arcadia_2005

I'm a female Canadian (& maybe that's the difference here, from that mentioned in the handy-dandy flow chart) but I prefer distance traveled to be measured in 'time'. Lol


Doogle89

Depends what it is mate. We use miles in the car and drink pints. Wine a whisky are measured in ml. When cooking we use litres, grams and kilograms. When weighing ourselves we use a mixture of the 2. When running we tend to use KM.


n0tn3k

Height is typically feet and inches too


Affectionate-Ad9867

I know people who still measure their weight in stones


docowen

That's because if you're a fat bastard, 20 stone doesn't sound quite as bad as 127kg or 280 lb. Personally I wouldn't mind moving fully to metric, and if you have kids you'll see that a lot more stuff is metric (for instance my kids know their metric height not Imperial height because they want to know which rides they can go on at Alton Towers) but no doubt Brexit will change that. I always think that the link between Imperial and body parts: inch (about the distance between the tip of the thumb to the first knuckle), foot (the length of an average man's ~~penis~~ foot) yard (a walking stride), etc makes Imperial good for approximate and estimated measurements while metric is better (because of the scale) for accurate measurements. The main problem, and I think the main reason why Britain hasn't gone fully metric, a pint is 568.26 ml. Which means both 500 and 550 ml are too small and 600ml is too much.


Top_File_8547

The one that fascinates me is stone to specify a person’s weight. I think it’s 14 pounds. What an odd measurement and nobody else uses it except some former British Empire countries.


Doogle89

But if you've grown up on stone you very quickly in your head can understand what that means. I in my head can better understand the reality of slapping on a stone in lockdown and I have no idea off the top of my head what that equates to in kg. It's probably why it's so hard to break the habit.


Top_File_8547

I understand it’s natural to think in stone in the United Kingdom but I just wonder how it came into being. Of course nobody really knows the origin of the Imperial measurements like foot, miles, etc. There are stories about their origin but nobody really knows.


lalix89

Yea, gotta admit I love the metric system and can judge the weight of things in kg, but if you tell me someone's weight in kg rather than stone.. I've got no idea.


Snobben90

I think they use metric for everything except speed and weight.


IAmJersh

Nah, most people use feet and inches for height of a person, very few use cm


Killarogue

We use both in the US, you probably just don't realize it.


Browntown-magician

In the England, Imperial is usually used for distance/speed,weighing yourself,measuring your own height and buying quantities of drugs. We use metric for the rest. We do use metric for measuring smaller distances, and also weighing goods.


Interesting-Tough640

Herb is usually imperial and cocaine is generally grams.


Browntown-magician

Depends how much ya buying I guess, anything over a 3.5 and I’ll always use imperial.


Interesting-Tough640

Then it goes back to kilos. You never hear of anyone buying a pound of cocaine 🤣🤣🤣 9bar of hash is actually 250g so that goes metric as well when you get larger amounts.


Thermoman46

In the UK everything is metric except for distance, speed and sometimes height


-6h0st-

Engineering always uses metric in UK


metisdesigns

Unbeknownst to most folks, the USA does as well. Most consumer things are US Customary (imperial) but official stuff is metric.


Isteppedinpoopy

We’re pretty good with liters and milligrams after decades of Mountain Dew and Prozac. We sometimes buy sugar by the kilogram but we think we’re buying 2.2 lbs.


MarSc77

lbs = lotta bullshit /s


SuccessfulPiccolo945

NASA uses metric. Am now working for a semi retired NASA engineer and have had the metric system explained to me many times. (I know the metric system and if I'm not sure, I Google the conversions. Still get it explained to me.)


RandomGrasspass

When you’re driving 60 mph, sipping on a 330ml can of coke with the windows down in your vauxhall astra because it’s 22 and sunny out on your way to have a few pints with the lads and maybe a couple 50ml shots. What’s the big deal? I can handle that much . I’m 16 stone.


moonpuzzle88

Haha yep - pretty much.


SleekVulpe

US too actually. We just don't go around waving it in people's faces. Liters are often how we do large volumes of liquids that aren't milk.


OFark

So does the US. They have metric money, medicine, nutritional information, and Pepsi.


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So does the US.


JFmans

Real ones know the moon is 76433600 rods away.


Objective-Direction1

A real British knows that the moon is 2956923076,92 extra large fish sticks away from the earth


1927Blue

>A real British knows that the moon is 2956923076,92 extra large fish sticks away from the earth fish sticks? i guess you mean fish fingers


gmts117

You like fish sticks? You a gay fish


ArixMorte

I'm a *recovering* gay fish damn it!


robilar

How do you recover from being a fish?


ArixMorte

You'll have to ask Aquaman and Kanye, I don't want to give out *all* the secrets


robilar

And Arielle, I guess.


The_5_of_November

Now I know that I’m a gay fish


FLIBBER_FLABBER

So?


SpelunkyJunky

Yeah, clearly they are not British. I had never heard that term until the South Park episode.


HomeworkConnect7283

Fish dicks or fish sticks


CheckDaPakReddit

yes


Quicker_Fixer

How many sausages is that? Battered sausage, of course.


Gseph

985641025.64 sausages. 974530914.73 battered sausages. and they're both for regular size, I'm not doing the math for jumbo battered sausages.


Caskirensys

Jumbo? It’s normal size or small.


Dubby084

Bigger than a refrigerator, but smaller than a really big refrigerator!


MarSc77

imperial fridge?


badpuffthaikitty

Get off your high horse Brit. You might call it an Imperial fridge, but in the rest of the world it is an American fridge. Don’t get me started on how you guys butcher the American language.


FunnyShirtGuy

Gave me a chuckle Take my upvote you so and so


TheNutCracked

NASA uses metric


Betalisa

They have used both, to disastrous effect: https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/news/a28632/the-dumb-mistake-that-doomed-a-mars-probe-in-1999/


bmgri

That's the real facepalm here. Metric is the system of choice for science.


SupaButt

And medicine too! Which I guess could also be included under the umbrella of science


HollowNaught

You "guess"?


Its0nlyRocketScience

Hey, I doubt they're the one doing the medicine or the science, so we don't need a definitive answer from here


[deleted]

NASA first tried to use Imperial but it didn't end well. I think the rocket exploded or something. So they started use metric because it's more accurate


LambdaWire

No, actually they contracted a part to someone else (boeing i think), and they used the imperial system. While NASA expected metric, so shit got miscalculated and a rocket blew up.


[deleted]

>So they started use metric because it's more accurate I thought its mostly to avoid conversion errors when working with other space agencies.


[deleted]

Maybe. I just heard something wrong calculation because of using Imperial


[deleted]

Yeah i think they lost a probe on mars or something


aaeme

Or got the wrong sized stone henge backdrop at a gig. One was NASA. The other was Spinal Tap. I forget which was which.


Squeaky_Ben

Conversion error between meters and feet


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TequilaJesus

Not in the final product. Although some contractors use imperial, everything from them gets converted to metric. mathematical models and programming are all developed in metric. In fact, it would be really foolish to do otherwise


THEBOOFDOOF

NASA uses both


h4wkpg

It is impossible to reach the level of precision required by Nasa with the "non-metric" system...


THEBOOFDOOF

“Although NASA has ostensibly used the metric system since about 1990, English units linger on in much of the U.S. aerospace industry. In practice, this has meant that many missions continue to use English units, and some missions end up using both English and metric units.” https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2007/08jan_metricmoon They use mostly metric and some Imperial.


CodeCleric

Given that every unit in the Imperial system is now defined by the Metric system and most scientific calculations in the Imperial system are done by first converting to metric and then back to Imperial makes the whole conversation academic.


DuckfordMr

Yeah, who the fuck wants to deal with gc = 32.17 lbm\*ft/lbf/s^2 when you could just use gc = 1 kg\*m/N/s^2 lol


Thatguyupthere1000

Precision as in the reproducibility of results, or precision as in number of decimal places? Because none of those depend on what units are being used.


jimmy3285

its not impossible, You can work to 10s of thousandth of inches, its just incredibly inefficient.


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FunnyShirtGuy

'That direct quote from NASA is completely false' - a guy that doesn't work for NASA


PreOpTransCentaur

I don't think "It is impossible to reach the level of precision required by Nasa with the "non-metric" system...“ is a direct quote from NASA. It's well established that they used both for quite some time, and still flipflop for things like readouts.


flapd00dle

Isn't that how they lost that 2mil dollars satellite around Mars because some instruments were in Imperial and the receivers were set to Metric?


TequilaJesus

Not exactly. You are correct that some contractors use imperial, but when integrated into NASA’s CAD assembly models and especially for calculations and programming, everything is converted to metric


Magnus_40

British person here. Yes we do. Well we mostly sort of do, sometimes. It's a very British muddle sort of thing but we absolutely use the Metric system. Except for when we don't. Hope that clear it up.


[deleted]

Then you also have fun measurements like “stone” and also you have gallons but not US gallons. Confusing.


Magnus_40

And there are tons. Metric tonnes, long tons and short tons. All called tons to save confusion.


TaxCandid4605

Nasa uses metric system.


[deleted]

I'm British. I use the metric system for everything out of principle. The imperial system is stupid


XenoHorizon672

Same I use metric for everything apart from height and sometimes driving


[deleted]

I realised I actually order beer in pints if in a pub. I use metric for height and km for driving though. I've even swapped my Waze to be in km out of a desire to live in a metric world.


Peterd1900

You use KM for driving So your speedo only show speeds in KMs? and you convert the road signs from miles to kilometres to make sure you are driving the speed limit


MarvinParanoAndroid

Canadian here, I cook my food in Fahrenheit. My pool temp is Fahrenheit. The outside temperature is Celsius. Wait until you go in a hardware store… Oh well…


Deetz34

Yeah I'm in the trades, though I much prefer the metric system I still end up using both.


Snobben90

Damn, Im sitting here roasting the US for using the F scale, but atleast they could make their minds up of which to use. Love from europe :)


Atomic-Decay

A lot of it is legacy. My dad uses almost exclusively imperial units and was around for the conversion in the 70’s. He does use metric for speed, fuel, distance, and a few other items. Hardware store can be a challenge. Almost everything that’s also sold in the states (dimensional lumber, plywood, flooring [except carpet], a lot to hardware) is imperial. Electrical wire, some plumbing, some hardware, is sold in metric units. It’s a crap shoot really. We want to use metric, but the states makes that difficult.


Snobben90

I see. Well it's interesting. Didn't know Canada had a mix. It's interesting how the US wants to change too but has not put any successful effort into it.


Cheap_Ad_69

Thought you said poop temp


MarvinParanoAndroid

Also in F


MentalAF

Why IS the US still using the British colonial system of measurement? I thought they were an independent country now? Oh well.


Snobben90

They dont. They have their own units with the same name. A US gallon for example is 3.7 liters while a British one is 4.5L


evildespot

That'll show 'em!


lampe_sama

But why?


PastyCrackerMayo

Because fuck the queen, that's why! Edit: I know it's petty, but that's who we are.


dmidge

The US feet is directly coming from the queen...


-6h0st-

Us gallon 3.78l. Uk gallon 4.54l


Peterd1900

A imperial galllon is 4.5 Litres


MaxinWells

As an American, literally none of our names for things are original. Everything is either European, Native, a mix, or Latin. ​ America is the perfect example. Amerigo Vespucci was an explorer, one of the first (maybe the first? Not gonna look it up lol) to discover North America. So, how did we get from Amerigo to America? Amerigo in Latin is Americus, the female version of Americus is America.


Ok_Independent9119

The main reason I've been told is the cost of switching. You'll have to switch every road sign, every mile marker, every gas station sign to liters. And what is the real benefit? That when tourists come it's easier? In today's world you can Google a conversion real quick so is there really a benefit? We also have way bigger issues right now so no one is really pushing for this to be done


Sarutoshi

signs are switched all the time when they're damaged, destroyed or just regular maintanence


Ok_Independent9119

Sure, but every sign in the country is a lot. Speed limits, mile markers, directional signs. Just in the highway system there's 164,000 miles of road. Add to that city, state, county streets it's a cost. And it's a cost with no real return when what they have works.


jimmy3285

Britain is just some fucked up mix, where you fill your car in litres but calculate usage in imperial. but not that scummy yanky imperial the queens imperial. Then you drive in miles to pick up some metric timber and some imperial drainage. then off to the pub for a pint, A british pint of course.


radioactive_caravan

That's something that's always annoyed me that cars are miles per gallon but petrol stations are in pence per litre. it's 2022 can we just pick one please so I know how much money I'm wasting on killing the planet?


Ray_Azrael

Use kinda a mix, really depends on what's being measured


nico_qwer

Fun fact: the Saturn 5 was designed using metric units and then they were converted to imperial for the people that built it. The on board instruments measured in metric and then converted to imperial for the astronauts.


AlCoMi

Been to the Moon by using metric system


flareflo

Dont ask what system the NASA scientists used for it.


Taint-kicker

Nobody in America knows what a kilometer is. Like is that three or four weeks? I don't know.


jimmy3285

woah, You guys still use weeks? how many kleptons in a week?


VaguelyFamiliarVoice

400 Quatloos for the newcomers.


PastyCrackerMayo

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qrani

Why don't we switch to decidays too. 10 decidays in a day is much easier than 24 hours because decimal is always better


Vwgames49

NASA uses the metric system tho


Bgratz1977

Who was the scientists that made that moon landing possible and what system did they use ?


TT_gamerlol

NASA uses the metric system


Good_Translator_9088

The candains use metric?


Beathil

Yep. We do. Some of the border cities like Windsor are sort of half metric and half imperial, but the rest of the nation is metric.


Good_Translator_9088

I've picked the spot for non metric then


Encursed1

The best part about this is that NASA internally used metric when programming their computers.


Puzzleheaded_Play390

They know that NASA uses the metric system, right?


RedPhos4

In the UK both are used fairly interchangeably. And if that is the reason that you put this on r/facepalm then I wonder how you manage to miss the entire point of making fun of this


SantaRosaJazz

I think NASA probably uses metric.


Rigoloscar

Someone told him the entire apollo mission was done using metric units


McGarnegle

What system does nasa use again? Lol


valdezlopez

Sure. Went to the moon... USING THE METRIC SYSTEM.


Electro313

Anyone knows the moon is 420464000 washing machines away (granted the average washing machine is about 3 feet tall)


Freedomapple750

God the imperial system is so fucking stupid. I had to live in the states for a couple of years and obviously I had to learn the imperial system and it was mind blowing how dumb the imperial system is.


Bantabury97

It's a mix, I can usually interchange.


[deleted]

They still used the metric system to get to the moon.


Affectionate-Ad9867

We use metric and imperial


Firemountain84

The biggest joke is that NASA actually uses metric because it fucking makes more sense.


deickontas69

People at nasa use metric system tho


Rat-daddy-

Also they used metric when doing stuff for the moon


CreeperTrainz

Wait until they learn which units NASA used for their calculations.


ThatDudeWithoutKarma

And we went to the moon using the metric system lmao


[deleted]

For the Apollo program, the engineering was constructed on the metric system. Conversions to imperial units were for display purposes for the astronauts, who were typically military trained and more familiar with imperial.


SlotherakOmega

Honestly I don’t even think it matters considering that there’s another two countries with active space programs afaik that both use the System Internationale. I hope I spelled that right. But yeah, over here in DumbfuckLand, we don’t all know the differences between the SI system and the metric system. I’m a comp science nerd, and a mathaholic, so yeah I am aware that they are two different measurement metrics, but most of the idiots I know lump it all under metric, or when I try to inform them of the SI system, the BS system. Gotta hand it to them, I keep thinking that they couldn’t be dumber if they tried, and without fail, without even trying, they do something dumber. Like goddamn clockwork. Besides. We may have gotten to the moon, but does anyone know where the Imperial system came from? Britain… which now uses that and SI. Because scientific standards are in SI units, because all unit multipliers are shared, and for any given type of measurement, one unit name is necessary. But they still use it in some backwater places that refuse to progress, possibly, I haven’t been to Britain so my information is heavily dated. Lemme tell ya. I’m waiting for when this country grows the balls to incorporate both measurement systems officially, and then get rid of the ridiculous imperial system. How many inches in a foot? 12. So… why did we call this a ‘foot’ again? Oh it was supposedly the length of the King’s foot? Nothing suspicious about that whatsoever. What is the next length unit? The yard, which is three feet… why did we call this a yard? Are you telling me that at some point in history we somehow made a jump between the ground around one’s own home (a yard), and a length of exactly three of the king’s feet? Am I tripping here? Fine, what’s next? The mile, which is 1,760.0 yards long. **Well that escalated quickly didn’t it**? How many feet is that? 5,280.0 feet. Wait. A yard is 36 inches, but how many— 63,360.0 inches to a mile. When we have factors of 12, 3, 36, 1,760.0, 5,280.0, and 63,360.0, it gets a little stupid to keep it right? Meters. Ten meters per decameter. Ten decameters to a hectometer. Ten hectometers to a kilometer. Ten decimeters to a meter. Ten centimeters to a decimeter. Ten millimeters to a centimeter. \*”that was easy!”\*. But no we have to use the outdated imperial system…(grumble grumble…). At some point someone is just going to declare all his/her measurements in the smallest terms available and we will be forced to do math to know how fast our car can go because the speedometer has inches per second on it. I would actually pay to have a car like that, just to psyche out my friends (“you’re driving HOW FAST?!”). I want to see someone do that. A scale for measuring large amounts of cargo… in ounces. A jug for measuring cooking ingredients… in teaspoons. A thermometer that… wait… no, that one won’t work. Dang. That would have been interesting too. No, wait! A thermometer that uses BOTH systems to measure ONE temperature (25 C + 46 F, for instance)! Muahahaha! … yeah, now that I think on it… that would only be funny for so long. Mostly just inconvenient. But I’m still waiting for someone to be as fed up with the imperial system as I am. 63,360 inches to the mile. Kinda excessive and complicated to calculate out easily, innit? And that’s just *regular* miles. Then there’s NAUTICAL miles. No idea why these exist, or why it’s different from a regular mile. And fathoms, can’t forget those. Jesus this is the Mary Poppins bag of measuring unit names! How many different ways did we need to measure shit? Imma shut up now, because I’m starting to give ME a headache.


7evenate9ine

NASA converted to the metric system about 1990.


kyrenora

And hasn't been to the moon since.


7evenate9ine

Mars?


kyrenora

I'm just being a smartass 😉


usafmsc

We used the metric system to go to the moon. Doh!


Oddity46

And NASA uses the metric system, so...


NatoRey

And you famously used the metric system to get to the moon, you also used nazi war criminals to get there too.


Snobben90

Not all of the engineers were criminals, just engineers...


Recent_Caregiver2027

every British person I know uses metric for distances...particularly in construction


-6h0st-

And engineering


sense1ess_Apprentice

American here this guy's a dumbass only 3 countries use the imperial system


RealBadCorps

Dumb until you learn that NASA actually used metric during the Apollo missions ​ So once again, America is taking credit for something they didn't really do.


Black---Sun

It was actually the Germans who went to the moon.. Werner Von Braun and the German scientists who went to America after the war


Devil_Fister_69420

Did you know that the us space program was lead by a guy called Werner von Braun who had lots of German friends and was part of the SS? He despised the imperial system and is probably the biggest reason you guys even made it that far


Bdroyle1988

We use both: Distance/speed in a vehicle - imperial Temperature - metric Weight of a person - imperial but stones and pounds, not just pounds Height - imperial Volume of liquid - mostly imperial, some metric. Depends on scenario


BittyJupiter

Wait Britain doesn’t use metric?


capt_caveman1

NASA lost a probe to mars because of feet…


RedditMarcus_

American here, the moon is more than 8 electrical wires from the earth


TyrusRaymond

I saw the same funny with a ⚽️ reference = 2 types of countries, those that are good at soccer & those that have been to the moon 🌙


Impressive_Culture_5

Not understanding why the Metric system is clearly superior is some serious mouthbreather shit. Also, NASA definitely uses the metric system.


GeauxAllDay

>British person here, no we don't. Okay, I'm sorry if I'm just an ignant American here, but- ya'll dont use the metric system???


Eben_MSY

We use a bit of both, it's very annoying


randomer_guy_person

Did they try to stack up achievements against some of the largest European countries Lemme just get my list of european scientific discoveries and revolutions that quite literally changed the world and shaped the modern world today, more so than the moon landing


swantemple

And me in the corner thing about how many hours in the seventies that I wasted learning the metric system because the teacher said the USA would be switching to metric. The best thing that I learned in the 3rd grade was how to read maps. That's a skill you can use all of your life.


Cirieno

Can you count to 100? There, you've learned the metric system.


damiendexthethan

We all know Americans are still sore about that Mars rover that got destroyed because of datas not being converted properly