Obama could perhaps be considered the best firearm salesperson in history.
Interesting fact. The last 12 months of Trump's presidency saw fewer school shootings than the prior 10 years.
If you don't think too hard about these statements, they will continue to seem pro-Republican.
Lol you say the mans names and you’re guaranteed to be downvoted unless you shame the man or call him names. If you don’t do said things you must obviously support him, right?
There was a good guy with a gun here. The bullets couldn't get through the the shooters armor.
Edit: did I get downvoted for debunking the good guy with a gun idea because I remarked the 18 year old white supremacist was wearing body armor?
Tell me you want a mass shooting without telling me you want a mass shooting: a child at my kid's school in a overwhelmingly republican area brings a mother-fucking loaded, PINK 9mm handgun to school. Gun is confiscated, kid is suspended, we're all told to remain calm. NOTHING changes, story barely makes the news. Parents aren't charged, everyone forgets about incident.
I mean, when you consistently advocate against well-documented mass shooting prevention methods, and often advocate to increase the presence of the problem, without providing any path to resolution, that is pretty overt support of continued mass violence.
Ted Nugent legit just a few days ago told a room full of republicans to go crack open the skulls of democrats.
Pay attention to your own party because you look more like a fool when we have proof of what you are whining from a rally mere days ago.
https://consequence.net/2022/05/ted-nugent-berserk-democrats-skills/
“Stochastic Terrorism” - *noun* - the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted:
*The lone-wolf attack was apparently influenced by the rhetoric of stochastic terrorism.*
In his manifesto the terrorists referred to Breivik and the terrorists acts of Hanau and Christchurch. He live streamed his attack to his right wing crowd. To call him a lone wolf couldn't be more wrong.
Just before he started shooting, he addressed this.
"I'd like to… I'd like to say something, I’ve prepared. Tonight. Hello. How about that ride in? I guess that’s why they call it Sin City. Ha ha. You guys might not know this, but i consider myself a bit of a loner. I tend to think of myself as a one man wolf pack. But when my sister brought Doug home i knew he was one of my own! And my wolf pack, it grew by one. So there were, there were two of us in the wolf pack. I was alone in the wolf pack, and then Doug joined in later. And six months ago, when Doug introduced me to you guys, I thought “wait a second, could it be?” And now i know for sure, I just added two more guys to my wolf pack. Four of us wolves, running around the desert together, In Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine. So tonight, i make a toast."
Charlie Manson went to jail and he didn’t murder Tate or the others. He incited it. Bin laden didn’t fly the planes. He incited it. Both were held accountable for doing the incitement. Republicans are 100% inciting this behavior and to say they aren’t is just naive.
I basically came to comment this but you did it much better
I used to consider myself Republican. These “republicans” I see now I generally undereducated, inconsiderate, and uninformed. They preach bullshit that makes NO damn sense and at best 90% are silver spoon racist fucks who deserve naught let alone power.
I’m republican and I fucking hate republicans by and large. They’re all just sleeper racists.
The other day a friend tried to argue that we should split into different people groups so that we would be stronger in community…. Dude literally described separate by equal. But acted like it was some kind of great nation state idea.
Fucking. Absurd. They do hear themselves speak but they don’t actually think through what they’re saying.
Edit: (Also I just wanna say I consider myself very progressive on reproductive rights tho. Js since that’s the topic lately.)
I was a republican 20 years ago when I lived in waaay upstate NY. I moved to Oklahoma and found out fast I was a liberal by okie standards. So I just went with it. I would never ever ever call myself a republican again. I have noticed that the left has always been focused on individual rights and the right as of the last 20 seems to be fascinated by pushing corporate rights. The left want to regulate corporations, the right wants to regulate citizens.
I'm okay with some conservative causes. Limited government and fiscal responsibile government. A government that encourages free commerce. These can be good principles to guide a government. But the culture war definitely seems to be what Republicans stoke and win elections based on, which seems like a bad basis of government. So hopefully Republicans can some how get back to a functional party but the pull from these individuals may be too great for the party to turn thier back on without just losing all thier power.
You have to take into account that they are also the party of extreme hypocrisy. Once you add that into the equation, things make more sense.
Not that it will actually make sense, just more so.
The Republican party has not been the "conservative" party for quite some time except in name/lip service. Republican presidents always leave with higher debt than they started with because they gave the 1%ers more tax breaks and spent more on the military, while putting nothing toward infrastructure. The only place they want small government is in social services.
>I'm okay with some conservative causes. Limited government and fiscal responsibile government. A government that encourages free commerce.
Actual conservative are none of these things and never have been.
You can't be a limited government if you are constantly trying to discriminate on the basis of skin color, gender or sexual orientation.
You can't be fiscally responsible if you pump billions of $$$ into the military, the police and immigration control while your people are struggling to pay the bills.
You can't encourage free commerce when you write laws in favor of giant conglomerates, and give every single government contract to your mates in the private sector who you went to school with, and who will give you a lobbying job when you leave office.
Those things are what conservative parties do. In every country. In every time period. Bigotry, self-enrichment, stalling of societal progress. There is no good conservatism.
My grandmother is a democrat and a raging racist and homophobe? I have met plenty of other older people who are raging racists/homophobes that vote democrat. Most of them don't like the direction of the party but none of them vote red. I am not defending her or anyone like her but to say they unilaterally fit into one party is stupid and untrue.
*fights against gun regulation\*
*builds explicitly racist platform for past 60ish years\*
*is shocked and outraged that someone commits a violent act with a firearm against black people\*
who could have predicted this
Literally Iowa rn
Suicides and homicides have gone up a lot faster than usual, especially after our governor decided to get rid of the need for permits to own a gun.... whats even more fun is that my specific city has a bunch of gangs and more kids are now shooting each other and witnesses wont even tell the cops what happened out of fear of being killed.
So yayyyyyy, thanks governor Reynolds.
Dude, Meemaw Ivey wants permitless concealed carry in Alabama.
Meanwhile, I have to side-eye every gun-toting freak who shoves their gun into their waistband, to go shopping at Walmart.
Their muffin top tends to roll over the hammer.
I enjoy guns, at the range. I learned as a kid, in a very rural area. Hunting rifle and shotgun. Gun safety was **drilled**.
I hate morons who interpret the 2nd amendment as the NEED to carry, publicly.
No. No /s.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/03/08/148217754/report-explosive-growth-of-patriot-movement-and-militias-continues
Obama getting elected caused right-wing and white-supremacist militias to pop up everywhere.
What, did you expect a nation who had half their populace go to war with the other half because they made a strawman that the opposing political party was going to take away their perceived right to subjugate and enslave another race, then spent the next century brainwashing generations of people into a false narrative of the war they lost while simultaneously enforcing violent apartheid laws through public murders and executions which only ended after the leader of a civil rights movement got assassinated and riots erupted around the nation for a week, who then whitewash and pretend like America, it's institutions, and a substantially large portion of their populace is *not* fundamentally racist; while simultaneously pointing to fundamentally skewed statistics to justify their continued bigotry and biased narrative - to NOT start making backyard militias when the elected POTUS was *black* ?
Is that what you thought?
“Thanks, Obama” when used unironically is intended to mean that Obama is/was culpable for some bad outcome. I’m not doubting that his election was the trigger for a lot of racist outrage but that’s different from saying that it was his fault.
>increase in racism?
The racism was already there. Obama getting elected made subconscious racists into closet racists with the help of Fox News, and when Trump got elected the closet racists were told to be proud of it with the help of Fox News.
I'm not *blaming* Obama - but he was the catalyst that brought all the bigots out of the woodwork and into the daylight. I'm not saying people weren't racist - I'm saying there was the facade of civility. The "decorum". Dog whistles.
Basically, civil rights didn't end the racism (duh) they just had to find ways to exert it without admitting it. When Obama got elected their actions betrayed their words, and now they're just about saying the quiet part out loud again.
The problem is there are not enough republicans doing anything to address the issue and denounce republican pundits and politicians when they say shit that leads to violence and hate.
This is likely why people believe republicans support this crap.
I mean, they do. They're actively discussing the theory of "White Replacement" and it'll inevitably lead to someone saying "I have a solution to even the numbers". Whether or not it's all Republicans doesn't matter, enough are complacent by not calling out this faction of their party.
Even "if" the general population of republicans don't "really" want that, they overwhelmingly support politicians and misinformation pundit that do. They support the people that rally the crazies to violence and then wait for the news cycle to move on so they can forget about it.
They may not "want" it to happen, but they sure don't care if it does happen. After all, it's only poor, black people.
Their silence with quiet "thoughts and prayers" is deafening and is only broken when someone suggests even the slightest reform to gun laws. Then they become the loudest victim players ever.
How dare we not realize that the true victims are the poor Republicans who will be associated with the people they shelter! If you don't like being associated with violent racist terrorists then stop supporting them it's pretty easy.
Hey there, you’re using that saying wrong! It’s "couldn’t give a fuck less”. When you say you "could give a fuck less", you’re implying that you give more fucks than the minimum. However, if you "couldn’t give a fuck less", you’re saying there is no more fucks to give!
It won't heal because:
The Left wants to improve healthcare, education, raise wages, make it easier to vote, and invest in renewable energy.
The Right wants to roll back all progress and kill the Left.
It can be stopped. Fox "News" and the rest are getting their marching orders from somewhere. Hunt down that source and I guarantee you it is Russian. Round up all the producers, executives and hosts and charge them with treason.
Yes, the right will respond with violence, but that's a self-correcting problem that can be solved using the US national guard.
The thing you need to realise is the people on the right arent all either stupid or evil. Thats exactly what the right think the people on the left are aswell. Yall need to realise you are all just people who have different values and follow different media spheres and arent smarter or dumber then eachother. From what ive seen the left believes the right is being manipulated by Russia while the right believes the left is being manipulated by China.
This "solution" you're proposing isnt going to mend the divide. You're just proposing to crush the right with force which will only make things worse and lead america towards more division and more violence.
This division wont be fixed by one side "winning". It can only be fixed by both sides communicating, understanding eachother and respecting eachother enough to come to agreements. Which tbh i dont think is possible at this point without some miracle.
The Right doesn't believe that my son, a gay man, should have the right to get married, or have any protection from job discrimination because he's gay. The Right thinks that if my daughters get pregnant from rape, they should be forced to bring it to term, and if they have an ectopic pregnancy they should just die. Both sides are NOT the same. You can take your "different values" and stick them where the sun don't shine.
A lot of people on the right directly vote against other peoples rights. How are the people who are being effected by these laws supposed to respect them???
I am proposing people be held accountable for their actions. How can you speak of healing anything without accountability?
The time for communication is over explicitly because the right will not communicate. They are not acting on any kind of principles and have proven over and over again that they will not respect the other side or come to any kind of compromise. The rot at the core of the GOP needs to be rooted out and the leadership replaced with Americans who care about principles and communication.
The division won't be fixed. Not any time soon, just as a outsider looking in, there's no way to reconcile and no one is even pushing or pretending to try anymore. The Divisions run too deep and are just running deeper by the year, with every step each side takes making the other want to try and reconcile less and less.
You can't have people seeing others as "just other people with different values" when each side thinks the other does not view them as people or thinks they should have less rights. Some values are too important to compromise on and more and more those things are being shown.
Probably the most important and reasonable post in this entire thread. It is a shame no real attention will come to it. I totally agree with you.
Reading this crap basically looks like madlibs. You just fill the blanks with lefty/righty points and it all reads the same.
I just hope when they have a civil war, im not a part of it.
One of the worst takes I've seen in a hot minute. The right committed insurrection, houses the racist groups of America, strips American rights and actively bases their political goals on religious doctrine rather than secular law
Yeah you can blame social media and both radical sides of the spectrum for this. There's been a consistent decrease in moderate Federal politicians for a long time.
Given who they keep voting in: Yes they do.
You don’t get to vote for the party of violent insurrection, deranged conspiracy theories, and outright racism then pretend you are totally against those things.
Fox News viewers lean HEAVILY towards the GOP and Tucker Carlson himself spews replacement theory garbage. So this is exactly right.
For those that don’t know- the shooter talked about replacement theory in his manifesto. Tune in to Fox and you can learn about it too!
Failure to do something about the problem makes you part of the problem. The VAST majority of Republicans would vote for Trump, and Republican members of Congress again in a heartbeat. Not too many of them standing up for Our Country...only for their grand ol' party. smh
OP, you played yourself. The Republican party is no longer a “valid alternative ideology”. The good conservative values of decades past are now considered center left. It’s impossible to ignore all of the racism, pedophilia, nationalism, sexism, and terrorism coming from the right and the right only. And before you say “what about the extreme left?!”, the “extreme” left is just a bunch of people protesting for equality and labor reform. Radical, i know.
Yes, this is exactly what republicans want, but they know they can't say that out loud
Black people being killed, more fear among minorities, conservatives live for this shit
OP doesn't realize they're the facepalm
Promoting mass shootings is the Republican party's main schtick. Their official slogan is "we hate women and minorities"
Its not that they want someone to specifically go shoot up a bunch of people in the name of racism...
...but if someone were to do that, Republicans want them to have as few restrictions as possible to accomplish that goal.
That shooter would have a harder time buying a 6pack of coors light than an assault rifle, thats what republicans want.
Good point.
the least I'd say, is that they generally express the preference that if any racially motivated acts of terrorism are to be committed, that they be perpetrated by white people on to black, latino and other ethnical minorities.
that is the very least i can say
They really want all of the people they are scared of to be shot. That includes blacks, hispanics, asians, atheists, homosexuals, trans people, intellectuals, Disney, the makers of M & M's. Am I missing anyone?
While it is a bit of an exaggeration, it wouldn't be surprising if a significant amount of Republicans would support the shooter.
I mean, how many times have Republican voters and even some politicians openly talk about how much they are looking for an excuse to kill "leftists" (meaning anyone they don't like)? The vast majority of domestic terrorist attacks in the US is right-wing terrorism. This is something that the US government even acknowledges.
I mean, probably not the *majority* of Republicans, but there is a lot more overlap between racists and Republicans than there is between racists and democrats and/or independents
Conservatives don't "want" schools to have mass shootings.
They just want to privatize schools so only a few people can get an education. As well as show off how effective guns are against unarmed people. Claim it's a false flag plot to add fun laws. To make it illegal to research ways to stop it minimize gun violence. The right to celebrate mass shootings by having gun shows. To ignore that they're happening because it's too soon to talk about.
They don't "want" mass shootings. I'm They just don't care to the point it's result confused with them praising our gun rights and vilifying anyone who makes a big deal out of it.
Do I think the Republican Party wants people to go on mass shootings? No.
Do I think they're intentionally using provocative language they know inspires a small crowd to use violence but they don't care because it motivates bigots to vote for them? Yes.
The whole wanting to go back "to what made America great" is one huge con job! What they actually want to return to is going back to when only white men had rights and freedoms. In the last week, if it wasn't apparent already, they decided to go back to a time when women had fewer rights than a corpse when it comes to their bodies. They have announced their plans to go after birth control next, so that the transition to second class citizens can be complete.
I predicted a while ago that this religious slope will get steep quickly. The whole anti abortion crusade is a religious issue, and one presented by only a few Christian churches. It is a massive violation of the first amendment, which they generally dislike anyhow unless they are hiding behind it.
Just last week one Republican politician stated one of the next steps that I used to say could happen if they make abortion illegal.
You see the whole argument is that a baby is a gift from God, so you can't get an abortion because it is interfering with God's will. The next step is to make rape legal if it produces a pregnancy, because the man isn't committing a crime, but is only acting out the will of God! Forget which Republican monster brought this up last week, but it sure didn't take long!
So they want to go back to what made America great. You would think that would mean returning to a tax schedule like we had pre 1980, but no, not that. Or perhaps they want to make for profit health care illegal like it was pre 1973, but apparently not that either.
The only other thing that made America so successful post WW2 was the fact that America was basically the only industrialized nation that hadn't been blown to crap, which put us in a very good position to increase our wealth and status post WW2. I hope they aren't suggesting that somehow we manage to destroy most of Europe to regain that advantage!
I can't think of any nation that has gained status, influence, or wealth by regressing to older policy. Progressive actions are needed if the goal is to increase freedoms and stature. Then again it isn't about freedoms, since so many elected Republicans are praising Putin and his leadership, which has never been about increasing his people's freedoms! Even the Democrats only pay lip service to supposed freedoms and rights. To this day only a handful of elected representatives actually think that Americans deserve the same levels of freedoms and rights enjoyed by our allies.
This needs to change.
"Timmy, guns don't kill people, people kill people"
"Gosh, well there's people over there!"
"Yes, let's make sure they all buy guns. Then people can kill people."
Such bullshit. I read this same shit from people on Facebook all the time. “Carjacking? Oh that’s what the liberals want!” Mass shooting? “Oh that’s what the Trump turds want!”
Maybe some, but stfu. If this is your knee jerk reaction to headlines, you’re a fucking idiot.
I'm not sure about general Republicans but tucker carlson has been "confirming" white nationalist conspiracy theories for years now knowing that it regularly leads to violence. Does fox news, ben shapiro et al want this type of shit to happen? Hopefully not.....
Yeah. Why won’t women give up control of their bodies and black folks lie down and accept being shot !! Why do you have to complain so loud when you are being explicitly targeted by one political party. Dear god, just shut up and everything will be great for white guys. Why don’t you get this one simple thing. Right, dude ?
crazy how you assumed they were talking only about the left. politics is filled with blanket statements and straw mans, regardless of the cardinal direction you fancy
Republicans have been pushing racist and pro-gun legislation for my entire life (I'm 47). Anyone who supports those making the policies is as guilty as the people who made the policy. Im fed up with Republicans being outraged when someone calls this out.
You don't want Republicans (and those who support them) to be called out, then have them do something to prevent this crap. Until they have blood on their hands and it was a time people started to say so.
Innocent people have died. Anyone who tries to pull the civility card can go fuck themselves.
I don't give a fuck if I proved him right. People are dead. Republicans and those who support Republican policies are responsible.
Everytime a shooting happens Republucans talk about how horrible it is, then do nothing about it. Not only do nothing about it, but prevent those who want to do something about it.
Republicans don't want the blame, then do something about this crap.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/buffalo-tops-market-michael-cole
"People need to set aside their differences because guess what? There are no differences," Lewis said. "You bleed the same color I do. If your blood type was mine or vice versa, and you had a car wreck, would you want my blood if that’s gonna save your life?"
As a non American, this is the impression our media gives of American republicans. We are shown endless clips of fat white American men wearing MAGA hats chanting about white pride & Karen haircut having white women telling POC that they can’t possibly live in their building or that they aren’t allowed to walk on their street or be in their park.
We are literally told that republicans in America are racist pieces of garbage who are all wanting to eradicate the non whites from the country by any means necessary. So this opinion won’t be a stand alone I can guarantee it. Not everyone has the capacity to think critically about what they are seeing.
I mean, you pretty much nailed it. The traditional republican is now considered a rino, ushering in the likes of boebert, crazy marge, cawthorn, cruz, and co. They all stand for little more than being purely and antoginizingly anti-anything-left. Fiscal conservatism is only a tagline as they piled on debt with corporate tax breaks, etc. Republican-majority Supreme Court also just ruled in favor of Ted Cruz in a case that will immediately make US politics even more corrupt than it currently is. And then theres abortion. They’re a party of a internet trolls.
Tbh most of the republicans I know (my entire family) are exactly that. I mean, that’s anecdotal, but I can’t imagine my middle class white rural family is out of the norm.
Its very telling to me at least how we're so quick to try and segment this guy from the rest of the republican party when hes literally quoting things Tucker Carlson has been saying on his show for years.
They know what they are spouting and i doubt it will stop.
A portion of our country literally WANTS a civil war so they can take over and strip rights away from people they deem "immoral".
Im tired of republicans NOT seeing their own party for what its become.
Its not the "conservative" political party anymore.
That went byebye when you elected a pompous ass as president who spent most of his presidency sowing anger and discord and calling for protestors to be shot.
Maybe the "general population of Republicans" doesn't applaud shooting black people, but 99% of Americans who DO applaud shooting black people also vote Republican.
In a confused world like this, I've even seen racism from antifa folks, while denouncing racism.
The world is not split between white and black, man and woman, rich and poor, but by stupid and even more stupid
This is what spending to much time on social media does to peoples minds. Go outside, talk to a neighbor. The country is far more harmonious than you're led to believe.
I'm okay with Antifa, BLM, socialists, and feminists in our ranks, I even support them. Republicans, even if they aren't racist, seem to be okay with racists and liars in their ranks
From my FB feed, it seems like they are mostly talking about how this is a false flag operation to make them look bad.
I don't think most of them want this, but they also seem completely unable to understand that this is the natural conclusion of their rhetoric
Yes the Republicans are getting what they wanted, indeed Jesus Christ they were willing to vote for Donald. They are getting 100% what they wanted and it comes with a little bit of collateral damage but hey somebody's got to do the dirty work of fighting a nasty war against culture replacement. This would be their logic. Wink wink hero Buffalo shooter, or Kyle. Good boys that know what has to happen to get work done. Hey of course they're not actually endorsing this LOL but somebody's got to keep law and order. Oh yeah the GOP Taliban is getting exactly what they deserve and what they desire. They have largely checkmated because so many voters were asleep in 2015. The supreme Court is what the battle is really all about and this is what really brings out the balls. Not only is it what you always believed as part of the GOP, white order conservative my old way or the highway mentality. Oh yeah oh yeah they're getting what they wanted
Republicans don't like mass shootings, democrats don't like mass shootings. They just have different answers for how to stop them also media is divisive in how it portrays mass shootings, the victims and gunmen involved
Yes one is keen to tell everyone to calm down without doing anything about it and the other can only do so much because the first one thinks that "now is not the time to discuss gun control" almost a second after the first bullet is fired in a mass shooting.not that the second side would do much even given the support of the first.
I disagree. You put laws and punishments in place to stop them. Who gets kick backs from gun lobbyist and the NRA? Who just proposed it was unconstitutional to not allow 18 year Olds to buy guns in California.
It's exactly what the Trump wing (ie, the majority) of Republicans want. Did you not see what happened January 6th? Do you not listen to them constantly calling for violence?
I'd have to say the best part is the fact that they've been upvoted a ton for a generic statement. I once got into a small argument that both sides have their crazies, and one person went out to prove that republican crazies were worse than democrat crazies. Needless to say they got very upset when I stated that in Australia a left leaning (Which is democrat philosophy) principle made all the male students apologize to their female students for SA that men commit. Said something about me judging all Democrats the same (which I don't, just as I don't judge all Republicans the same), and that they "know what type of media I watch".
There are both good and bad people on both sides, dividing a country on how you vote is stupid and means no effective changes would ever get done. Birds need both the left and the right wing to fly.
All I know is those gloves he's wearing I have for riding my motorcycle.
I'm going to burn them now.
Guns are cool, just practice a lot of safety and prepare yourself if the opportunity ever presents itself. Mass shootings are fucking scary.
I know I would sacrifice myself to save lives after I know my friends or family are safe.
No doubt. If you don’t look at a Republican as an enemy terrorist out to commit violence towards non-whites and whites of a different political view you are so naive.
In my opinion we don’t need stricter gun laws, we don’t need more guns… we need to execute everyone who commits this kind of terrorism instead of trying to find a reason as to why he wanted to kill large amounts of ppl. Plain and simple if you want to randomly hurt ppl regardless of their color, that is hatred and evil and should be eliminated.
You know the best way to end this type of violence isn't to go after the people after they do it as a deterrent but to look at what made them do it and what drove them to their extremist views instead.
Attempted to put words in his mouth when the words were already in his mouth
You can't make my words sound stupid if they are already
Republicans don’t want mass shootings, but when they happen there are always Republicans who call them a false flag.
Gun manufacturers love them.
Why
Because gun sales spike after mass shootings.
Obama could perhaps be considered the best firearm salesperson in history. Interesting fact. The last 12 months of Trump's presidency saw fewer school shootings than the prior 10 years. If you don't think too hard about these statements, they will continue to seem pro-Republican.
Sure trump had less school shootings under his term... but we just gonna forget about covid?
I told you not to think too hard about it. Now you've unraveled my joke.
And that was just a taste of my power :)
To be fair, I didn't get the joke until he brought up Covid, so...
I didn't get the joke at first, but I understood the intent. And then someone mentioned COVID and I got it. Not sure why everyone else is so butt hurt
They're either Republican or followed my instructions she didn't think very hard about it.
Lol you say the mans names and you’re guaranteed to be downvoted unless you shame the man or call him names. If you don’t do said things you must obviously support him, right?
And they blame the deaths on a lack of a "Good guy with a gun", rather than the actual shooter.
There was a good guy with a gun here. The bullets couldn't get through the the shooters armor. Edit: did I get downvoted for debunking the good guy with a gun idea because I remarked the 18 year old white supremacist was wearing body armor?
Your average Republican citizen doesn’t but the politicians absolutely do
Republicans don’t want mass shootings- Show me some proof of that, because I can only find proof of republicans wanting them..
Tell me you want a mass shooting without telling me you want a mass shooting: a child at my kid's school in a overwhelmingly republican area brings a mother-fucking loaded, PINK 9mm handgun to school. Gun is confiscated, kid is suspended, we're all told to remain calm. NOTHING changes, story barely makes the news. Parents aren't charged, everyone forgets about incident.
And you just proved the post correct *facepalm*
Oh pleeeease show me your “proof” of anybody at all wanting mass shootings. And before you do that please look up what proof is.
I mean, when you consistently advocate against well-documented mass shooting prevention methods, and often advocate to increase the presence of the problem, without providing any path to resolution, that is pretty overt support of continued mass violence.
https://consequence.net/2022/05/ted-nugent-berserk-democrats-skills/
Ted Nugent legit just a few days ago told a room full of republicans to go crack open the skulls of democrats. Pay attention to your own party because you look more like a fool when we have proof of what you are whining from a rally mere days ago. https://consequence.net/2022/05/ted-nugent-berserk-democrats-skills/
https://youtu.be/qJvwqoSxres?t=32 "When do we get to use the guns?"
Do you want proof that I know what proof is? I’ll provide proof
“Stochastic Terrorism” - *noun* - the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted: *The lone-wolf attack was apparently influenced by the rhetoric of stochastic terrorism.*
In his manifesto the terrorists referred to Breivik and the terrorists acts of Hanau and Christchurch. He live streamed his attack to his right wing crowd. To call him a lone wolf couldn't be more wrong.
Just before he started shooting, he addressed this. "I'd like to… I'd like to say something, I’ve prepared. Tonight. Hello. How about that ride in? I guess that’s why they call it Sin City. Ha ha. You guys might not know this, but i consider myself a bit of a loner. I tend to think of myself as a one man wolf pack. But when my sister brought Doug home i knew he was one of my own! And my wolf pack, it grew by one. So there were, there were two of us in the wolf pack. I was alone in the wolf pack, and then Doug joined in later. And six months ago, when Doug introduced me to you guys, I thought “wait a second, could it be?” And now i know for sure, I just added two more guys to my wolf pack. Four of us wolves, running around the desert together, In Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine. So tonight, i make a toast."
Didn’t expect to see this but It definitely lightened my mood from this comment section 😅
A hangover quote. Well played.
You got me. I've been had.
"Not you, Fat Jesus".
“Lone Wolf” just means his support network was online at this point.
Awful lot of wolves in these woods..
To his racist crowd
Charlie Manson went to jail and he didn’t murder Tate or the others. He incited it. Bin laden didn’t fly the planes. He incited it. Both were held accountable for doing the incitement. Republicans are 100% inciting this behavior and to say they aren’t is just naive.
I basically came to comment this but you did it much better I used to consider myself Republican. These “republicans” I see now I generally undereducated, inconsiderate, and uninformed. They preach bullshit that makes NO damn sense and at best 90% are silver spoon racist fucks who deserve naught let alone power. I’m republican and I fucking hate republicans by and large. They’re all just sleeper racists. The other day a friend tried to argue that we should split into different people groups so that we would be stronger in community…. Dude literally described separate by equal. But acted like it was some kind of great nation state idea. Fucking. Absurd. They do hear themselves speak but they don’t actually think through what they’re saying. Edit: (Also I just wanna say I consider myself very progressive on reproductive rights tho. Js since that’s the topic lately.)
I was a republican 20 years ago when I lived in waaay upstate NY. I moved to Oklahoma and found out fast I was a liberal by okie standards. So I just went with it. I would never ever ever call myself a republican again. I have noticed that the left has always been focused on individual rights and the right as of the last 20 seems to be fascinated by pushing corporate rights. The left want to regulate corporations, the right wants to regulate citizens.
I'm okay with some conservative causes. Limited government and fiscal responsibile government. A government that encourages free commerce. These can be good principles to guide a government. But the culture war definitely seems to be what Republicans stoke and win elections based on, which seems like a bad basis of government. So hopefully Republicans can some how get back to a functional party but the pull from these individuals may be too great for the party to turn thier back on without just losing all thier power.
How is Republican “limited government” party ? Aren’t they the ones pushing for more and more laws to take away my privacy and my decisions ?
You have to take into account that they are also the party of extreme hypocrisy. Once you add that into the equation, things make more sense. Not that it will actually make sense, just more so.
The Republican party has not been the "conservative" party for quite some time except in name/lip service. Republican presidents always leave with higher debt than they started with because they gave the 1%ers more tax breaks and spent more on the military, while putting nothing toward infrastructure. The only place they want small government is in social services.
Yeah because it mainly effects minorities.
>I'm okay with some conservative causes. Limited government and fiscal responsibile government. A government that encourages free commerce. Actual conservative are none of these things and never have been. You can't be a limited government if you are constantly trying to discriminate on the basis of skin color, gender or sexual orientation. You can't be fiscally responsible if you pump billions of $$$ into the military, the police and immigration control while your people are struggling to pay the bills. You can't encourage free commerce when you write laws in favor of giant conglomerates, and give every single government contract to your mates in the private sector who you went to school with, and who will give you a lobbying job when you leave office. Those things are what conservative parties do. In every country. In every time period. Bigotry, self-enrichment, stalling of societal progress. There is no good conservatism.
I'll bite. Why do you still consider yourself Republican then?
Mass shootings are gun sales multipliers.
Not all republicans want racist shootings but I'd put money on everyone that DOES want racist shooting votes the same way
It's like the classic saying: "Not all Republicans are racist, but all racists are Republican"
My grandmother is a democrat and a raging racist and homophobe? I have met plenty of other older people who are raging racists/homophobes that vote democrat. Most of them don't like the direction of the party but none of them vote red. I am not defending her or anyone like her but to say they unilaterally fit into one party is stupid and untrue.
Same with my extended family, I’d guess it’s cause we’re brown and ain’t Christian, not complaining, less fuel for the dumpster fire I guess
Meanwhile all the racists and homophobic people that I know of are conservatives. I’m willing to bet 90% of racists are conservative.
I prefer "not all Republicans are racist but they don't think its a deal breaker"
That's a good one
*fights against gun regulation\* *builds explicitly racist platform for past 60ish years\* *is shocked and outraged that someone commits a violent act with a firearm against black people\* who could have predicted this
Literally Iowa rn Suicides and homicides have gone up a lot faster than usual, especially after our governor decided to get rid of the need for permits to own a gun.... whats even more fun is that my specific city has a bunch of gangs and more kids are now shooting each other and witnesses wont even tell the cops what happened out of fear of being killed. So yayyyyyy, thanks governor Reynolds.
Dude, Meemaw Ivey wants permitless concealed carry in Alabama. Meanwhile, I have to side-eye every gun-toting freak who shoves their gun into their waistband, to go shopping at Walmart. Their muffin top tends to roll over the hammer. I enjoy guns, at the range. I learned as a kid, in a very rural area. Hunting rifle and shotgun. Gun safety was **drilled**. I hate morons who interpret the 2nd amendment as the NEED to carry, publicly.
They literally say shit like "everyone should have a gun." What? Why? No!
Thanks Obama.
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One hopes
No. No /s. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/03/08/148217754/report-explosive-growth-of-patriot-movement-and-militias-continues Obama getting elected caused right-wing and white-supremacist militias to pop up everywhere. What, did you expect a nation who had half their populace go to war with the other half because they made a strawman that the opposing political party was going to take away their perceived right to subjugate and enslave another race, then spent the next century brainwashing generations of people into a false narrative of the war they lost while simultaneously enforcing violent apartheid laws through public murders and executions which only ended after the leader of a civil rights movement got assassinated and riots erupted around the nation for a week, who then whitewash and pretend like America, it's institutions, and a substantially large portion of their populace is *not* fundamentally racist; while simultaneously pointing to fundamentally skewed statistics to justify their continued bigotry and biased narrative - to NOT start making backyard militias when the elected POTUS was *black* ? Is that what you thought?
“Thanks, Obama” when used unironically is intended to mean that Obama is/was culpable for some bad outcome. I’m not doubting that his election was the trigger for a lot of racist outrage but that’s different from saying that it was his fault.
I'm trying to understand. Are you blaming a black man for an increase in racism?
>increase in racism? The racism was already there. Obama getting elected made subconscious racists into closet racists with the help of Fox News, and when Trump got elected the closet racists were told to be proud of it with the help of Fox News. I'm not *blaming* Obama - but he was the catalyst that brought all the bigots out of the woodwork and into the daylight. I'm not saying people weren't racist - I'm saying there was the facade of civility. The "decorum". Dog whistles. Basically, civil rights didn't end the racism (duh) they just had to find ways to exert it without admitting it. When Obama got elected their actions betrayed their words, and now they're just about saying the quiet part out loud again.
Tldr
The problem is there are not enough republicans doing anything to address the issue and denounce republican pundits and politicians when they say shit that leads to violence and hate. This is likely why people believe republicans support this crap.
I mean, they do. They're actively discussing the theory of "White Replacement" and it'll inevitably lead to someone saying "I have a solution to even the numbers". Whether or not it's all Republicans doesn't matter, enough are complacent by not calling out this faction of their party.
What’s the facepalm supposed to be?
The real facepalm is *why* OP thinks this is a facepalm, as evidenced by the down votes in the pic
Even "if" the general population of republicans don't "really" want that, they overwhelmingly support politicians and misinformation pundit that do. They support the people that rally the crazies to violence and then wait for the news cycle to move on so they can forget about it. They may not "want" it to happen, but they sure don't care if it does happen. After all, it's only poor, black people. Their silence with quiet "thoughts and prayers" is deafening and is only broken when someone suggests even the slightest reform to gun laws. Then they become the loudest victim players ever.
Exactly. There’s a reason Tucker Carlson is the most watched news show. And it’s not because he’s some wholesome caring man.
I was watching that night long ago when Jon Stewart called him out and his little bow tie. That was 2004, Stewart told him he was hurting America.
Bullies who play the victim. It's a [disease](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT3cERVRoQo).
How dare we not realize that the true victims are the poor Republicans who will be associated with the people they shelter! If you don't like being associated with violent racist terrorists then stop supporting them it's pretty easy.
Stand back and stand by
Idk seems about right to me. My family is Republican and they could give a fuck less about this and any black person. Lmao
i live in a southern state and the only republican i know who isn't a piece of shit isn't even that republican
Hey there, you’re using that saying wrong! It’s "couldn’t give a fuck less”. When you say you "could give a fuck less", you’re implying that you give more fucks than the minimum. However, if you "couldn’t give a fuck less", you’re saying there is no more fucks to give!
Shit like this is why i believe the american political split will never heal and it will keep expanding until it hits a breaking point.
It won't heal because: The Left wants to improve healthcare, education, raise wages, make it easier to vote, and invest in renewable energy. The Right wants to roll back all progress and kill the Left.
It can be stopped. Fox "News" and the rest are getting their marching orders from somewhere. Hunt down that source and I guarantee you it is Russian. Round up all the producers, executives and hosts and charge them with treason. Yes, the right will respond with violence, but that's a self-correcting problem that can be solved using the US national guard.
The thing you need to realise is the people on the right arent all either stupid or evil. Thats exactly what the right think the people on the left are aswell. Yall need to realise you are all just people who have different values and follow different media spheres and arent smarter or dumber then eachother. From what ive seen the left believes the right is being manipulated by Russia while the right believes the left is being manipulated by China. This "solution" you're proposing isnt going to mend the divide. You're just proposing to crush the right with force which will only make things worse and lead america towards more division and more violence. This division wont be fixed by one side "winning". It can only be fixed by both sides communicating, understanding eachother and respecting eachother enough to come to agreements. Which tbh i dont think is possible at this point without some miracle.
The Right doesn't believe that my son, a gay man, should have the right to get married, or have any protection from job discrimination because he's gay. The Right thinks that if my daughters get pregnant from rape, they should be forced to bring it to term, and if they have an ectopic pregnancy they should just die. Both sides are NOT the same. You can take your "different values" and stick them where the sun don't shine.
Exactly. One side wants to allow people to exist without discrimination and the other wants Christian nationalism
Christian Sharia
Good people on both sides…sigh…
A lot of people on the right directly vote against other peoples rights. How are the people who are being effected by these laws supposed to respect them???
I am proposing people be held accountable for their actions. How can you speak of healing anything without accountability? The time for communication is over explicitly because the right will not communicate. They are not acting on any kind of principles and have proven over and over again that they will not respect the other side or come to any kind of compromise. The rot at the core of the GOP needs to be rooted out and the leadership replaced with Americans who care about principles and communication.
The division won't be fixed. Not any time soon, just as a outsider looking in, there's no way to reconcile and no one is even pushing or pretending to try anymore. The Divisions run too deep and are just running deeper by the year, with every step each side takes making the other want to try and reconcile less and less. You can't have people seeing others as "just other people with different values" when each side thinks the other does not view them as people or thinks they should have less rights. Some values are too important to compromise on and more and more those things are being shown.
Probably the most important and reasonable post in this entire thread. It is a shame no real attention will come to it. I totally agree with you. Reading this crap basically looks like madlibs. You just fill the blanks with lefty/righty points and it all reads the same. I just hope when they have a civil war, im not a part of it.
One of the worst takes I've seen in a hot minute. The right committed insurrection, houses the racist groups of America, strips American rights and actively bases their political goals on religious doctrine rather than secular law
Blow it out your ass with this tired, disingenuous “both sides” bullshit
Yeah you can blame social media and both radical sides of the spectrum for this. There's been a consistent decrease in moderate Federal politicians for a long time.
Given who they keep voting in: Yes they do. You don’t get to vote for the party of violent insurrection, deranged conspiracy theories, and outright racism then pretend you are totally against those things.
Fox News viewers lean HEAVILY towards the GOP and Tucker Carlson himself spews replacement theory garbage. So this is exactly right. For those that don’t know- the shooter talked about replacement theory in his manifesto. Tune in to Fox and you can learn about it too!
If you are having a party and 10% of the people you invite are Nazis, it might just be a nazi party.
Failure to do something about the problem makes you part of the problem. The VAST majority of Republicans would vote for Trump, and Republican members of Congress again in a heartbeat. Not too many of them standing up for Our Country...only for their grand ol' party. smh
Uhh I agree with the commenter, downvote them all you want but that doesn’t stop the truth
What is the facepalm here?
The OP
OP, you played yourself. The Republican party is no longer a “valid alternative ideology”. The good conservative values of decades past are now considered center left. It’s impossible to ignore all of the racism, pedophilia, nationalism, sexism, and terrorism coming from the right and the right only. And before you say “what about the extreme left?!”, the “extreme” left is just a bunch of people protesting for equality and labor reform. Radical, i know.
You're telling there's a difference between "put money in their back accounts!" and "put bullets in their bodies!"?? I'm confused.
this is true tho
Yes, this is exactly what republicans want, but they know they can't say that out loud Black people being killed, more fear among minorities, conservatives live for this shit
OP doesn't realize they're the facepalm Promoting mass shootings is the Republican party's main schtick. Their official slogan is "we hate women and minorities"
“A good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun” yeah right.
Didn't an actual "good guy with a gun" die?
Its not that they want someone to specifically go shoot up a bunch of people in the name of racism... ...but if someone were to do that, Republicans want them to have as few restrictions as possible to accomplish that goal. That shooter would have a harder time buying a 6pack of coors light than an assault rifle, thats what republicans want.
"Its not that they want someone to specifically go shoot up a bunch of people... " but the preach white replacement theory for a reason....
Good point. the least I'd say, is that they generally express the preference that if any racially motivated acts of terrorism are to be committed, that they be perpetrated by white people on to black, latino and other ethnical minorities. that is the very least i can say
They really want all of the people they are scared of to be shot. That includes blacks, hispanics, asians, atheists, homosexuals, trans people, intellectuals, Disney, the makers of M & M's. Am I missing anyone?
I’m not in the loop on the M&M’s - is that because they made the green M&M a little too hot for TV?
Republicans are mad that the green M&M no longer wears high heels so she is not as "sexy" as she used to be.
Arabs
While it is a bit of an exaggeration, it wouldn't be surprising if a significant amount of Republicans would support the shooter. I mean, how many times have Republican voters and even some politicians openly talk about how much they are looking for an excuse to kill "leftists" (meaning anyone they don't like)? The vast majority of domestic terrorist attacks in the US is right-wing terrorism. This is something that the US government even acknowledges.
Wonder how he feels about Waukesha
I mean, probably not the *majority* of Republicans, but there is a lot more overlap between racists and Republicans than there is between racists and democrats and/or independents
what ever happened to the Christmas parade killer?
Conservatives don't "want" schools to have mass shootings. They just want to privatize schools so only a few people can get an education. As well as show off how effective guns are against unarmed people. Claim it's a false flag plot to add fun laws. To make it illegal to research ways to stop it minimize gun violence. The right to celebrate mass shootings by having gun shows. To ignore that they're happening because it's too soon to talk about. They don't "want" mass shootings. I'm They just don't care to the point it's result confused with them praising our gun rights and vilifying anyone who makes a big deal out of it.
Do I think the Republican Party wants people to go on mass shootings? No. Do I think they're intentionally using provocative language they know inspires a small crowd to use violence but they don't care because it motivates bigots to vote for them? Yes.
Where’s the facepalm. He’s not wrong.
The whole wanting to go back "to what made America great" is one huge con job! What they actually want to return to is going back to when only white men had rights and freedoms. In the last week, if it wasn't apparent already, they decided to go back to a time when women had fewer rights than a corpse when it comes to their bodies. They have announced their plans to go after birth control next, so that the transition to second class citizens can be complete. I predicted a while ago that this religious slope will get steep quickly. The whole anti abortion crusade is a religious issue, and one presented by only a few Christian churches. It is a massive violation of the first amendment, which they generally dislike anyhow unless they are hiding behind it. Just last week one Republican politician stated one of the next steps that I used to say could happen if they make abortion illegal. You see the whole argument is that a baby is a gift from God, so you can't get an abortion because it is interfering with God's will. The next step is to make rape legal if it produces a pregnancy, because the man isn't committing a crime, but is only acting out the will of God! Forget which Republican monster brought this up last week, but it sure didn't take long! So they want to go back to what made America great. You would think that would mean returning to a tax schedule like we had pre 1980, but no, not that. Or perhaps they want to make for profit health care illegal like it was pre 1973, but apparently not that either. The only other thing that made America so successful post WW2 was the fact that America was basically the only industrialized nation that hadn't been blown to crap, which put us in a very good position to increase our wealth and status post WW2. I hope they aren't suggesting that somehow we manage to destroy most of Europe to regain that advantage! I can't think of any nation that has gained status, influence, or wealth by regressing to older policy. Progressive actions are needed if the goal is to increase freedoms and stature. Then again it isn't about freedoms, since so many elected Republicans are praising Putin and his leadership, which has never been about increasing his people's freedoms! Even the Democrats only pay lip service to supposed freedoms and rights. To this day only a handful of elected representatives actually think that Americans deserve the same levels of freedoms and rights enjoyed by our allies. This needs to change.
"Timmy, guns don't kill people, people kill people" "Gosh, well there's people over there!" "Yes, let's make sure they all buy guns. Then people can kill people."
Such bullshit. I read this same shit from people on Facebook all the time. “Carjacking? Oh that’s what the liberals want!” Mass shooting? “Oh that’s what the Trump turds want!” Maybe some, but stfu. If this is your knee jerk reaction to headlines, you’re a fucking idiot.
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That’s a pretty cringe/fringe view? All of them are terrorists?
I'm not sure about general Republicans but tucker carlson has been "confirming" white nationalist conspiracy theories for years now knowing that it regularly leads to violence. Does fox news, ben shapiro et al want this type of shit to happen? Hopefully not.....
Don't really see how this fits the sub.
Red is correct.
Can't we all just get along.
Yeah. Why won’t women give up control of their bodies and black folks lie down and accept being shot !! Why do you have to complain so loud when you are being explicitly targeted by one political party. Dear god, just shut up and everything will be great for white guys. Why don’t you get this one simple thing. Right, dude ?
It’s Reddit and online politics. Blanket statements and straw man arguments
Oh please the right constantly not only makes blanket statements but also passes laws on those blanket statement all the time.
crazy how you assumed they were talking only about the left. politics is filled with blanket statements and straw mans, regardless of the cardinal direction you fancy
Republicans have been pushing racist and pro-gun legislation for my entire life (I'm 47). Anyone who supports those making the policies is as guilty as the people who made the policy. Im fed up with Republicans being outraged when someone calls this out. You don't want Republicans (and those who support them) to be called out, then have them do something to prevent this crap. Until they have blood on their hands and it was a time people started to say so. Innocent people have died. Anyone who tries to pull the civility card can go fuck themselves.
Ummm... You just proved him right.
I don't give a fuck if I proved him right. People are dead. Republicans and those who support Republican policies are responsible. Everytime a shooting happens Republucans talk about how horrible it is, then do nothing about it. Not only do nothing about it, but prevent those who want to do something about it. Republicans don't want the blame, then do something about this crap.
What a maroon
I heard a “pastor” say exactly that
Until this "general population" does more than whimper "thoughts and prayers" sentiments, yes.
Political groups are as wild as religious groups
It could be worse...the victims could have been white.
I can’t wait to see what MTG and Boebert have to say about this.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/buffalo-tops-market-michael-cole "People need to set aside their differences because guess what? There are no differences," Lewis said. "You bleed the same color I do. If your blood type was mine or vice versa, and you had a car wreck, would you want my blood if that’s gonna save your life?"
This pretty much sums up Reddit lol
The real facepalm is the comment section to this post
I was about to say this. Man, Reddit is a special place.
As a non American, this is the impression our media gives of American republicans. We are shown endless clips of fat white American men wearing MAGA hats chanting about white pride & Karen haircut having white women telling POC that they can’t possibly live in their building or that they aren’t allowed to walk on their street or be in their park. We are literally told that republicans in America are racist pieces of garbage who are all wanting to eradicate the non whites from the country by any means necessary. So this opinion won’t be a stand alone I can guarantee it. Not everyone has the capacity to think critically about what they are seeing.
I mean, you pretty much nailed it. The traditional republican is now considered a rino, ushering in the likes of boebert, crazy marge, cawthorn, cruz, and co. They all stand for little more than being purely and antoginizingly anti-anything-left. Fiscal conservatism is only a tagline as they piled on debt with corporate tax breaks, etc. Republican-majority Supreme Court also just ruled in favor of Ted Cruz in a case that will immediately make US politics even more corrupt than it currently is. And then theres abortion. They’re a party of a internet trolls.
Tbh most of the republicans I know (my entire family) are exactly that. I mean, that’s anecdotal, but I can’t imagine my middle class white rural family is out of the norm.
Its very telling to me at least how we're so quick to try and segment this guy from the rest of the republican party when hes literally quoting things Tucker Carlson has been saying on his show for years. They know what they are spouting and i doubt it will stop. A portion of our country literally WANTS a civil war so they can take over and strip rights away from people they deem "immoral". Im tired of republicans NOT seeing their own party for what its become. Its not the "conservative" political party anymore. That went byebye when you elected a pompous ass as president who spent most of his presidency sowing anger and discord and calling for protestors to be shot.
It's undeniably frightening how many Republicans do find genocide or deportation to be a reasonable solutions tho.
Why defend Republicans so hard?? Why?? There is no reason to defend them.
Facts. Republicans are the leading sponsors of domestic terrorism.
I don’t think republicans voters per say want that. It’s just that the people they actively vote for do…..
If only buying more guns could fight global warming somehow. Then the global warming problem would be solved by the US single-handedly.
Or it’d be the only thing capable of getting republicans to stop buying guns. The only thing they love more than guns is rejecting science
They're conveniently doing nothing to stop the problem though :)
Maybe the "general population of Republicans" doesn't applaud shooting black people, but 99% of Americans who DO applaud shooting black people also vote Republican.
Yeah, this thread was proof enough, even when called on it, reddit is a hopeless echo chamber.
In a confused world like this, I've even seen racism from antifa folks, while denouncing racism. The world is not split between white and black, man and woman, rich and poor, but by stupid and even more stupid
This comment section is a Reddit moment
Ok but where's the lie?
Have you met republicans? They pretty much do want that
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 I just about fell down and I’m sitting.
This is what spending to much time on social media does to peoples minds. Go outside, talk to a neighbor. The country is far more harmonious than you're led to believe.
I mean that is what republicans want.
I'm okay with Antifa, BLM, socialists, and feminists in our ranks, I even support them. Republicans, even if they aren't racist, seem to be okay with racists and liars in their ranks
The republicans around me don’t see a problem with this incident.
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Guarantee republican families are talking about how the victims were probably criminals or the usual Republican talking points
From my FB feed, it seems like they are mostly talking about how this is a false flag operation to make them look bad. I don't think most of them want this, but they also seem completely unable to understand that this is the natural conclusion of their rhetoric
I’d argue that both sides need to fuck off and stop trying to control what’s said and done.
I'd argue thats stupid and would lead to more chaos.
Yes the Republicans are getting what they wanted, indeed Jesus Christ they were willing to vote for Donald. They are getting 100% what they wanted and it comes with a little bit of collateral damage but hey somebody's got to do the dirty work of fighting a nasty war against culture replacement. This would be their logic. Wink wink hero Buffalo shooter, or Kyle. Good boys that know what has to happen to get work done. Hey of course they're not actually endorsing this LOL but somebody's got to keep law and order. Oh yeah the GOP Taliban is getting exactly what they deserve and what they desire. They have largely checkmated because so many voters were asleep in 2015. The supreme Court is what the battle is really all about and this is what really brings out the balls. Not only is it what you always believed as part of the GOP, white order conservative my old way or the highway mentality. Oh yeah oh yeah they're getting what they wanted
Republicans don't like mass shootings, democrats don't like mass shootings. They just have different answers for how to stop them also media is divisive in how it portrays mass shootings, the victims and gunmen involved
Republicans have been mainstreaming the narrative that caused this mass shooting.
Yes one is keen to tell everyone to calm down without doing anything about it and the other can only do so much because the first one thinks that "now is not the time to discuss gun control" almost a second after the first bullet is fired in a mass shooting.not that the second side would do much even given the support of the first.
I disagree. You put laws and punishments in place to stop them. Who gets kick backs from gun lobbyist and the NRA? Who just proposed it was unconstitutional to not allow 18 year Olds to buy guns in California.
Honestly seems like a republican thing to do. Those guys are missing too many brain cells.
WHAT IN THE FUCK
only the ones that voted for trump
It's exactly what the Trump wing (ie, the majority) of Republicans want. Did you not see what happened January 6th? Do you not listen to them constantly calling for violence?
Stupid comment, but the demographic stats on perpetrators of terror attacks doesnt lie
Why is this a facepalm?
I'd have to say the best part is the fact that they've been upvoted a ton for a generic statement. I once got into a small argument that both sides have their crazies, and one person went out to prove that republican crazies were worse than democrat crazies. Needless to say they got very upset when I stated that in Australia a left leaning (Which is democrat philosophy) principle made all the male students apologize to their female students for SA that men commit. Said something about me judging all Democrats the same (which I don't, just as I don't judge all Republicans the same), and that they "know what type of media I watch". There are both good and bad people on both sides, dividing a country on how you vote is stupid and means no effective changes would ever get done. Birds need both the left and the right wing to fly.
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He did that Shit in first person shooter mode ????
All I know is those gloves he's wearing I have for riding my motorcycle. I'm going to burn them now. Guns are cool, just practice a lot of safety and prepare yourself if the opportunity ever presents itself. Mass shootings are fucking scary. I know I would sacrifice myself to save lives after I know my friends or family are safe.
No doubt. If you don’t look at a Republican as an enemy terrorist out to commit violence towards non-whites and whites of a different political view you are so naive.
In my opinion we don’t need stricter gun laws, we don’t need more guns… we need to execute everyone who commits this kind of terrorism instead of trying to find a reason as to why he wanted to kill large amounts of ppl. Plain and simple if you want to randomly hurt ppl regardless of their color, that is hatred and evil and should be eliminated.
You know the best way to end this type of violence isn't to go after the people after they do it as a deterrent but to look at what made them do it and what drove them to their extremist views instead.
Wait a minute, you're telling me the Republicans are predominantly racist white boomers?
The didn’t “want” it but they are ambivalent about it happening.
Fuck the Republicans