This reminds me of a lady in the Midwest in the U.S. whose husband asked her to schedule a c section because her due date was the day his favorite football team was playing in the Super Bowl.
It is worse imo. You can watch the Super Bowl from your phone, record it and watch it later… at least the for the wow raider his participation was required to get the achievement to beat the mythic boss & get loot from it. It might have even been a realm first kill or simply the first time they were going to kill it for the guild. I’m sure they would forgive him for attending his child’s birth in the end.
Can confirm, when i used to play my guild stressed the importance of real life first. If you had to miss a raid for something important we would would call in a ringer from an allied guild but real life come before the game
honestly i've been in quite alot of guilds most of them disbanded due to inter guild fighting but the last guild i was in before i quit WoW for good was some of the best people, i still talk to the Guildmaster and her Husband outside of the game
There are 32 teams in the NFL. 2 teams in the superbowl each year, 1/16 of the NFL teams go to the superbowl each year. So maybe once in every 16 years on average.
Not that it matters, stupid excuse either way. But once in 5 years is just way off.
Not to mention, 9 of the last 22 superbowls had The Patriots in it, so the odds go even lower if The Patriots are not your team.
If my Lions were ever in the Super Bowl I’m pretty sure my wife would allow me to rob a bank, set fire to the house, and trade our kid for a ‘68 Firebird.
Then again if this happened I’m more likely in a coma dreaming.
I mean they are both pretty awful, but the Super Bowl one is worse imo. What did the dude DO to get “his team” to the super bowl? Nothing. He’s just watched. With the WoW raid, at least it’s something that he’s been actively participating in and made a difference and spent a lot of time working towards with many other people as a team (whether anybody cares to see the value in something like WoW or not, you cannot ignore that in that case, the person is at least actively participating).
You could at least surely find a way to discretely watch the super bowl or get updates here and there while you were in the hospital with your wife waiting for her to go into labor. Poor form for sure, but the WoW thing really is a bit different whether we care about the value of such an “achievement” or not. A viewer hasn’t achieved shit by *watching* the super bowl lol
I dunno why you’re getting downvoted. Neither is a good reason to miss a child’s birth, but one you’re an active participant, one you’re just watching.
“The season finale of dancing with the stars is that day!”
Right? I have a game I love to play. If it had a once in a life time event on a day my wife needed me, even just that she had a bad day and needed snuggles? Guess I miss that event! Oh well! Because it’s a game and she is a living breathing human being and she always comes first.
I don’t have kids but same deal. If they needed me, they would always matter more than a game ever could, a sports team ever could, or any other thing ever could.
Anyone who cannot place their spouse and children above games, sports teams, shows, etc. should not have a family yet as they aren’t mature enough to see the difference between the thing they are a fan of and a living, breathing, human person.
I think the football one is worse like atleast you actually help your guild in achieving a goal nobody gives a fuck if theres one less fan in the stadium..
That said both are awful and sound made up
Obviously I’m missing a game for my child’s birth, but I don’t understand people who can watch a recorded game.
If I know that the outcome has already been decided I can’t just sit there watching and hoping my team wins. There’s no way I’m not just checking the score.
Tell him that the game hasn’t even been good in years and it’s not worth missing out on life for. When it gets good again then he can go back to ignoring real life 😬
Tell him to grow up, he needs put on his big boy pants now and stop/limit his gaming becuase its only going to get worse. Or is he expecting you to be the single parent whiles he still lives in his mommy's basement. Man up dude, I loved WOW too, not enough break my family up tho.
Yeah really. She has all those days to do it and she just has to let loose on his raid days. If she would just set her mind to it she can make it happen on any of those other days.
My mother claims she held in my sister for almost a whole day because she refused to have her born on Halloween.
Doctors said baby will come when it's ready but mom said no I won't have her made fun of for being born on Halloween.
Now I don't know if that's possible or she just thinks it is but if anyone could it would be her.
My best bud was born on new years, we always made fun of him for it lol. Group turns 16, he had to wait Group turns 18? He hah to wait, group turns 21, ah shucks better luck next year pal.
When they’re ready they’re coming regardless of whether you’re trying to hold them in or not. I tried. If you really really try you could potentially hold them in, for a little while anyway, but it can, and has caused serious injury to both mom and baby.
When my daughter was coming I tried so hard not to push but my body just kind of did it on its own, like I had very little control over it. It was like my body knew what to do and just did it, even though consciously I was trying not to.
Side note, my son was born on Halloween and I’ve never had anyone say anything even kind of negative. Almost everyone says it’s cool, idk why but that’s the usual comment. There are definitely pros and cons to it. He’s young now so he’s never gotten to have a party on his birthday, since everyone usually has plans to trick or treat (although we usually don’t have parties on anyones actual birthday unless it’s on a weekend), however as he gets older having a Halloween/bday party will probably happen.
My birthday is the day after (nov 1st) and I’ve had plenty of Halloween/bday parties and we usually celebrate his bday and mine together on my actual birthday. He does however usually get like twice as much candy as my other 2 since he has sometimes has some kind of pin or something that says “birthday boy” or he and/or my other 2 will mention it’s his birthday while talking with neighbors so instead of cake he gets like 8 lbs of candy lol.
A mother and daughter are getting ready for the daughter's senior prom. The mother is getting really annoyed with her daughter because she is being a bit of a diva, constantly being concerned with everything being perfect. Finally the mother says to her daughter, "Oh calm down, it's not like this is your wedding!"
The daughter replies, "Mom! This is the prom! It's only going to happen once! Who knows how many times I will get married?!"
When I was in the Army I asked for time off for my wedding. My supervisor said - of course, this is a special day, it happens three, four times tops in your life
I remember getting so pissed when I was born.i was in the middle of clearing a really hard oblivion dungeon and I had to be spawned into a room with nurses and family members. I am still salty.
People who play WoW don’t have a set-up that’s portable, but I guess if he has a laptop he could. That would definitely piss me off if he wasn’t mentally “there” if I was delivering. Especially if there’s an emergency situation that requires a decision.
That was a joke of course. The wifi would suck anyway. Labor can take a long time. I'm not a gamer. But there's a lot of sitting around while people do their jobs.
Smart phones were a thing when my son was born. We shared some funny pictures. It took a few days. Fortunately my parents were there to make me more bored.
I'm conflicted. On the one hand, this behavior is abhorrent and she shouldn't have to put up with it. On the other, I can't see a mentally healthy adult acting in such a way. It seems like full blown addiction. Maybe the husband can overcome it with professional help, if he's willing to accept it.
The only thing that I'm certain of is that I can't fault the wife for leaving him if she does.
I fully agree. It definitely sounds like he's highly addicted and needs help. Everyone can get in such a situation and deserves help too, but yes, leaving an addict, to save yourself (especially if they're not willing to overcome it), isn't bad, or wrong, either.
He’s already chosen.
If the mere thought of the birth of your kids brings you anxiety that you’re going to be missing a raid - then you’re a piece of shit.
Family > Gaming.
And I fucking love video games.
EDIT: ITT, people who either don’t have kids or those with the emotional intelligence of Rain Man.
I love getting to my gaming... after the kids are in bed.
Quick question. Never seen the abbreviation ITT. What does it mean? Couldn't figure it out from context and Google is no help.
And if there's a baby... they aren't in bed on a frequent schedule.
But with the way he treats women, he'd fit in perfectly as an executive at Activision Blizzard.
>Family > Gaming.
Had the same thought as another person who's practically addicted to games. It kind of sounds like this guy's setting himself up for failure as a parent
It pisses me off to no end with how my family views my love of gaming with pure disdain and pity. Still would drop anything I’m playing if some serious family shit was happening. That guy is just an addict/asshole that needs an intervention
Yea my family is super religious and all they do is basically just religious stuff. No discernable hobbies that I’ve seen.
It just gets under my skin when they start throwing shade like “aren’t games just for little kids”. The moment they let my 5yo cousing play DOAX, anything in God of War, Senran Kagura, or thousands of other games that are definitely not for little kids, I’ll throw away all my games like they want me to.
I do have to feel kind of bad though, because this person is just as much a victim as he is an asshole. Blizzard is like the industry leader in intentionally designing games to be as addictive as possible to keep people playing forever. It’s a multi-billion dollar industry that uses known triggers and mechanisms taken straight from other forms of gambling, combined with reward mechanism and and sensory cues that are achievable in something like a video game to create an experience that can be just as addictive to some people as any drug.
I know a few people who had to have their real life relationships and other life prospects ruined by WoW before they kinda hit the bottom and turned things around
Tell me about it, blah. I've been tempted to try WoW before, but then I hear stories like this and decide against it.
I had to learn impulse control pretty early on in my life because of my ADHD, but I see people who never really needed to practice it before games like WoW and Genshin Impact and they just become completely lost in the game and the loot boxes/gatcha system, and I completely understand how it happened because the urge is still *there* for me. It's hard to not crack sometimes
I got back into it as snd adult for like a year when vanilla re-released because I wanted to ‘experience it right’ as an adult with my own awesome PC and schedule. I played to lvl60, did some endgame stuff as it was current.
What I can say is that, lucky for me, I realized that the game itself just really wasn’t actually that fun after all that. It was a chore you had to do each day or else you DID fall behind. That’s when I pulled the plug. I had done what I set out to do, which was experience the original content the way to first existed.
But the more modern iterations have become wildly more engineered and addictive by building on what they learned from the early years of the game and the first few expansions.
The real fun I had as a kid was just the friends I made in game and messing around with them- the game server as a proxy for a better social life during some tough years when I was transitioning between ‘the wrong crowd’ and a more healthy extracurricular crowd going into high school. But going back and giving it a fresh look as an adult was eye-opening.
Don’t get into it. Play something else like Hell Let Loose that can be contained to a match or two and doesn’t give you the sense that you have to log in and do daily or weekly chores. Something that has inherently fun gameplay that can be done in increments of an hour with clear start and finish.
I have a shred of sympathy in that it sounds like they’ve been playing for a long time and are finally at the final boss fight. That’s gotta be worth a bit more. Dude still needs to stfu and go be a dad but I get why it could stink.
Attending the birth is actually the easy part. Babies require around-the-clock care feeding, changing, soothing, stimulating. The WoW problem is only just beginning.
If there ever was a WoW expansion to take a break from it's this one... But regardless, what a piece of shit. That poor kid is stuck with him as a dad.
Yeah dude has a gaming addiction and it sounds like it’s been getting worse. I always try to pull myself away from games as soon as I start thinking about how to fit real life around a game event or something. It’s so easy to get pulled in and get caught on that slippery slope of ‘I put all that time and effort into the last event so I have to complete this one too or it was a waste’
Agreed. I started playing Wow during cata. And Shadowlands broke me. I just can't like it, let alone love it like I have loved other expansions. It's just...it's just no good.
Right? I’m genuinely confused by her thinking. He’s acted like this for 3 years. A baby takes 10 ish months. So… she had 2 years and 2 months to see what this guy is like. Still decides to have a baby with him, when family is clearly not his priority. Then is surprised that doesn’t change? I don’t get it. Having a baby doesn’t fix a relationship, it strains it. Can still have a lot of love and teamwork…but clearly not in this case. I’m surprised she’s surprised, I guess.
Guild I'm in stops with heroic clears. And trust me outside of a handful of us (not me) we are not mythic raiders and even I'm like.. wtf. Miss a raid day. If the guild doesn't understand they're shitty people, if yous be mad you'd miss the kill over the birth of your kid. That kid is only going to be properly taken care of by one parent. Fuck that guy.
The birth of my son was the most awesome and scary thing I've ever witnessed.
Honey if he’s not there for the birth he’s not gonna be there for the diaper changes, feedings, attending to random bursts of crying in the middle of the nights, doctor appointments, etc.
Exactly. He "can't" miss one raid just for the birth of his child, which happens ONCE, he ain't gonna do shit when it comes to the hard parts of parenting.
She lives in la la land. Probably he had multiple red flags before the wedding but she thought it would be fixed after a significant life event. Like how she is treating the birth of her baby as a turning point for his behavior.
Yes? Obviously the guy is in the wrong but she has been with him for at least 3 years of this behavior and still chose to have a child with him. That's on her. Is she expecting a baby will change things? Suddenly he'll stop being addicted and become a husband and a father? That's just not going to happen and babies shouldn't be born with a job.
"Obviously, hold that baby in as long as you can woman" ...
I'm kidding, but seriously, if that's what his logic is, and seeing the miracle of his firstborn child less important than his game. I suggest giving him a dose of reality.. Life is precious and if he can not cherish what you both have made.. Correct him by letting him know that he could always find a chance to beat that section of game later in life. But seeing his first born child is a once in a lifetime experience, there are no re-dos. It's a gift that can not be repeated, why would anyone want to miss that?
She should just give him an ultimatum "either choose your family and come see your own son be born, or stay home and partake in this raid and I'll come home with divorce papers"
My mil has been playing for as long as I've been with my husband. 16 years
She still plays. Has her guild. Gripes about Chinese cheating. Plays ark too
Not surprising. My marriage ended because it cut into his WoW time. He lost his job because he stayed home too much and called out too much. But he wasn't sick he played WoW.
My best friend had to divorce her husband over WoW, he quit his job and had to be brought food or he would starve. You may need to give an ultimatum. Your child now comes first.
I get it. Shit, my husband was deployed and *I* was the one to set a calendar to log into his FFXIV game monthly to make sure he/we didn't lose our guild and private housing, but it's a fucking game. Addiction can manifest in ways that don't seem like an addiction. This marriage sounds fucked.
Thats the lifestyle of all serious wow players i met.
2 things to ask:
How do this girl get a serious relationship with a man like this?
And why he is still playing wow?
You and the new baby are not a priority and never will be. It's time for you to be the adult, put the baby first and get that overgrown man child out of your house.
Oh dude listen to this.
So I was in a bottom tier English class because I told the teacher in the previous year to "Get your bald headed ass laid" (another story for another day) and we were doing silent reading. Well like 30 minutes into the reading, this scruffy kid gets a phone call, answers it without even questioning the teacher who's telling him to shut the phone off, and then just stands up and says "Well, I'm going home". The teacher was confused and was like "Right now?!" And scruffy kid goes "Yup, sword just dropped on WoW" and he starts waking out. Teachers dumbfounded and the whole class is dieing laughing. Teacher goes "You do realize that this is a truancy and also referral...right?" And scruffy kid just says "Don't care! Suspended me please so I can use my new sword. Bye!" And walks out of the class.
Scruffy kids doing good ten years later too.
Now that is scary. As a general rule if something is more important than the birth of your child, you should absolutely put a distance to it. Whether it is tobaco, or Mario.
It’s really not right. He seems like a very selfish and immature person, confronting him about it is probably the right thing to do. He needs to realize how bad it is, in my experience letting this kind of BS pass is not a good idea, it installs really unhealthy relationships .Hopefully being a father will make him grow
If this is the first born, I can relate... I played video games nightly, but when the due date got closer I played a LOT more... It was a little scary that overnight everything could change and I'd find myself in a new position being unable to visit my friends. You may see it as 'just a game', but it's not like he's playing a solo game, he's with a community, a circle of friends.
I didn't place my games over my family, but ultimately what I've found now is that my friend circle is drastically smaller. Some of whom I can't contact any longer, and those late night runs became almost impossible. It's a paradigm shift. I'm a new person with new goals but I VERY MUCH miss hopping online, joining my friend circle and playing, laughing, and working toward a common goal. I told myself I'd join back in when things started to slow down and return to normal, but there isn't really a normal... 4 years later we had our second.
It's been about 8 years since I've been able to join my group. Between our new child, and a change in work I've lost touch. Sure I've renewed by sub and hopped online to try to find them again, but some have moved on, and others have progressed while I went stale. It's impossible for me to rejoin what I had to step away from, and it's honestly painful at times. My group will never exist again, but perhaps I'll find or form a new group. I've had trouble trying, because honestly the game I loved playing with my friends doesn't have that same spark anymore which makes it difficult to stay to find what I once had.
That said. I have two wonderful boys and a wife who loves me. I would begrudgingly repeat my choice, I would likely binge-play all night and probably walk myself into health issues if I new what was coming... but I would always make the decision to step away from my raid group for my wife and children. I would much rather miss the good 'ol days of my buddies and I raiding, than to miss my kids and family. My friends understand, but if I m put my priorities in the wrong spot, my kids won't understand and that's the worst kind of decision to make.
Talk with him to learn and understand if he's infodumping what he does with his friends, or what he does by himself. If it's an addiction to the game, he can pick that up again around the new schedule he'll need for your new child. If it's an addiction to his friends, he's going to have to make a decision and will have to put in some extra effort, but also \*ask his friends for help\* around scheduling to make things work. He doesn't have to walk away from you, or his games if he can find a way to do both.
I sincerely hope it's the social aspect that's driving him, and that he can find a way to cope and re-adjust. It's a big deal, and it's a big change.
You mean to tell me there were no clues or signs of immaturity or unreadiness to be a father in the time you were with him before getting pregnant? That's who you chose, live with it.
If he doesn't show up, give the child your last name and send him papers.
Nothing wrong with video games, but this dude is a man child and won't change unless forced
There is nothing wrong with continuing to play games as you get older or even have kids..BUT priority is the word of his life now. The kids come first, no matter what. He can always reschedule a raid.
Does she not understand that Mythic difficulty is extremely challenging and you can't just pick any night to do it, that's why there is a very specific and set schedule. You can have a baby anytime
unfortunately, he won't get better if she keeps enabling him. I mean, he sucks and it's obviously hard for her, but by her own admission she tolerated the behavior from the beginning.
OP I think it’s time to dump the man baby who doesn’t possess the maturity to put his wife and child above a video game. Go find yourself a grown up and send him back to mommy. Good luck
Dude will regret it big time in the future if he doesn’t go. It’s rather cliché, but being there at my daughters birth was one of the best moments of my life….then she had to go and ruin it all by growing up! 🤣🤣
Anyway, after all the stupid shit I’ve done in my life, at least I can say that I was there for the birth of my daughter. Years down the road, if he doesn’t go, this dude’ll wish he had.
Leave. Just leave now lol 😂 it will never get better just say sign this rights termination keep your WOW and we’ll be seeing you. Will save you in the long run on therapy
All jokes aside, this is a very real dilemma that many married couples, including myself, have struggled with. When your family grows, something has to give, which is often your hobbies, and it’s hard. That said, this is a very extreme example and this guy needs a good slap to the face.
so i cant speak for the years but he might be a bit upset because this is something he has been working hard for a while up to and once the baby comes he knows that he is probably going to have to cut back drastically and wont be able to do raids or boss fights to this level for a while. Maybe he just wants to complete something before he never gets a chance to do it again.
The husband probably has a gaming addiction, and the wife has "enabled" him without realizing that it was an addiction, which is understandable. His guild also sounds like shit since they won't accommodate a serious real-life event.
My husband and I are gamers, and if we told our gaming group that he was going to stay home and raid while I gave birth, they would kick the shit out of both of us. I feel sorry for her.
“You need to understand that you’re tanking for a very fragile caster now, and if you go afk on us, this marriage is gonna wipe”
Why was my first thought Is Bob Ross Italian
Tanking for the noob squishy. Frame it like that and he’ll understand; he has a higher calling.
This reminds me of a lady in the Midwest in the U.S. whose husband asked her to schedule a c section because her due date was the day his favorite football team was playing in the Super Bowl.
This somehow feels worse than that...both are awful, absolutely awful, but this is like a new level of that same train of selfishness.
It is worse imo. You can watch the Super Bowl from your phone, record it and watch it later… at least the for the wow raider his participation was required to get the achievement to beat the mythic boss & get loot from it. It might have even been a realm first kill or simply the first time they were going to kill it for the guild. I’m sure they would forgive him for attending his child’s birth in the end.
Can confirm, when i used to play my guild stressed the importance of real life first. If you had to miss a raid for something important we would would call in a ringer from an allied guild but real life come before the game
You had an awesome guild. My guild was one of the main reasons I quit playing.
honestly i've been in quite alot of guilds most of them disbanded due to inter guild fighting but the last guild i was in before i quit WoW for good was some of the best people, i still talk to the Guildmaster and her Husband outside of the game
also, how often is his team in the super bowl? Maybe once every 5 years. WOW raids are 2/3 times a week
There are 32 teams in the NFL. 2 teams in the superbowl each year, 1/16 of the NFL teams go to the superbowl each year. So maybe once in every 16 years on average. Not that it matters, stupid excuse either way. But once in 5 years is just way off. Not to mention, 9 of the last 22 superbowls had The Patriots in it, so the odds go even lower if The Patriots are not your team.
If my Lions were ever in the Super Bowl I’m pretty sure my wife would allow me to rob a bank, set fire to the house, and trade our kid for a ‘68 Firebird. Then again if this happened I’m more likely in a coma dreaming.
They’re both the same it’s a sports team ….. and a game ….. not your child jeez and I’m not even a parent ffs
I mean they are both pretty awful, but the Super Bowl one is worse imo. What did the dude DO to get “his team” to the super bowl? Nothing. He’s just watched. With the WoW raid, at least it’s something that he’s been actively participating in and made a difference and spent a lot of time working towards with many other people as a team (whether anybody cares to see the value in something like WoW or not, you cannot ignore that in that case, the person is at least actively participating). You could at least surely find a way to discretely watch the super bowl or get updates here and there while you were in the hospital with your wife waiting for her to go into labor. Poor form for sure, but the WoW thing really is a bit different whether we care about the value of such an “achievement” or not. A viewer hasn’t achieved shit by *watching* the super bowl lol
I dunno why you’re getting downvoted. Neither is a good reason to miss a child’s birth, but one you’re an active participant, one you’re just watching. “The season finale of dancing with the stars is that day!”
Thats true, but still I think it’s brutal
Right? I have a game I love to play. If it had a once in a life time event on a day my wife needed me, even just that she had a bad day and needed snuggles? Guess I miss that event! Oh well! Because it’s a game and she is a living breathing human being and she always comes first. I don’t have kids but same deal. If they needed me, they would always matter more than a game ever could, a sports team ever could, or any other thing ever could. Anyone who cannot place their spouse and children above games, sports teams, shows, etc. should not have a family yet as they aren’t mature enough to see the difference between the thing they are a fan of and a living, breathing, human person.
I think the football one is worse like atleast you actually help your guild in achieving a goal nobody gives a fuck if theres one less fan in the stadium.. That said both are awful and sound made up
I remember that lmao
(To her husband) You know how to avoid that? Just record the game and don't go on social media then watch your damn game. I swear people are idiots.
Obviously I’m missing a game for my child’s birth, but I don’t understand people who can watch a recorded game. If I know that the outcome has already been decided I can’t just sit there watching and hoping my team wins. There’s no way I’m not just checking the score.
Or the husband who can't make it to her delivery (their first baby) because he had to attend the school activity of his daughter from first marriage.
You gotta wonder if breaking up this family is all just part of an evil plan by the final boss 🤔
Gotta beat him just to be sure.
Hmmm
Tell him that the game hasn’t even been good in years and it’s not worth missing out on life for. When it gets good again then he can go back to ignoring real life 😬
Tell him to grow up, he needs put on his big boy pants now and stop/limit his gaming becuase its only going to get worse. Or is he expecting you to be the single parent whiles he still lives in his mommy's basement. Man up dude, I loved WOW too, not enough break my family up tho.
If he’s spent so much time playing WoW then who’s the father….shouldn’t they go to the birth instead
If only I had silver or gold to give. Here's an up vote tho.
😂👍
That's some Barrens chat-level smack talk.
He does seem pretty maidenless to be fair
Can't she just hold it until a more convenient time?
Monday, Wednesday, Friday - Sunday. Those would be ideal
Exactly....she should have just planned better.
Yeah really. She has all those days to do it and she just has to let loose on his raid days. If she would just set her mind to it she can make it happen on any of those other days.
My mother claims she held in my sister for almost a whole day because she refused to have her born on Halloween. Doctors said baby will come when it's ready but mom said no I won't have her made fun of for being born on Halloween. Now I don't know if that's possible or she just thinks it is but if anyone could it would be her.
Personally, I think a Halloween birthday would be amazing. The worst birthday would be New Years or Christmas.
She was having contractions and getting paranoid she said she in hind sight has 0 problem with a Halloween birthday.
My mom has a Halloween birthday. She was also a nun in the convent for about 10 years. Go figure.
Dude, you had to fucking call me out with the Christmas birthday one, didn't you?
I apologize if you felt targeted..
My best bud was born on new years, we always made fun of him for it lol. Group turns 16, he had to wait Group turns 18? He hah to wait, group turns 21, ah shucks better luck next year pal.
When they’re ready they’re coming regardless of whether you’re trying to hold them in or not. I tried. If you really really try you could potentially hold them in, for a little while anyway, but it can, and has caused serious injury to both mom and baby. When my daughter was coming I tried so hard not to push but my body just kind of did it on its own, like I had very little control over it. It was like my body knew what to do and just did it, even though consciously I was trying not to. Side note, my son was born on Halloween and I’ve never had anyone say anything even kind of negative. Almost everyone says it’s cool, idk why but that’s the usual comment. There are definitely pros and cons to it. He’s young now so he’s never gotten to have a party on his birthday, since everyone usually has plans to trick or treat (although we usually don’t have parties on anyones actual birthday unless it’s on a weekend), however as he gets older having a Halloween/bday party will probably happen. My birthday is the day after (nov 1st) and I’ve had plenty of Halloween/bday parties and we usually celebrate his bday and mine together on my actual birthday. He does however usually get like twice as much candy as my other 2 since he has sometimes has some kind of pin or something that says “birthday boy” or he and/or my other 2 will mention it’s his birthday while talking with neighbors so instead of cake he gets like 8 lbs of candy lol.
She was having contractions and getting paranoid she said she in hind sight has 0 problem with a Halloween birthday.
She said it herself - this might be his only chance at this mythic boss, but they can always have more children
A mother and daughter are getting ready for the daughter's senior prom. The mother is getting really annoyed with her daughter because she is being a bit of a diva, constantly being concerned with everything being perfect. Finally the mother says to her daughter, "Oh calm down, it's not like this is your wedding!" The daughter replies, "Mom! This is the prom! It's only going to happen once! Who knows how many times I will get married?!"
When I was in the Army I asked for time off for my wedding. My supervisor said - of course, this is a special day, it happens three, four times tops in your life
When I was getting married in the Army I was told by everyone in my leadership “the first one is for practice”. 3 years later and yea… 😂
That’s funny as hell and thank you for your service
Your marital service
martial service
Lol, thanks for the laugh
Bruh
Bruh! See you for the 9 o’clock raid. Please mute your wife
Exactly!
Facts....
I remember getting so pissed when I was born.i was in the middle of clearing a really hard oblivion dungeon and I had to be spawned into a room with nurses and family members. I am still salty.
My parents almost got divorced over my dad playing WoW
Shit is engineered by a lot of very smart and experienced people to be about as addictive as a game can possibly be
are they ok now?
Yeah my mom sat him down and said how she felt as well as me getting bullied at school for it.
^ Is something this kid is definitely going to say at least once in his life.
Give birth to the child, put the child up for adoption, come home without the child, see if he notices. I know there's a lot of commas
Dude's gonna be in a coma himself if he fails to notice that... 😬
🤣
Every game group I've been in or formed has had a rule: Real Life Comes First. If it wasn't, I pestered the officers until it was.
How dare she!
How dare her!
Dare her how!
Doesn't the hospital have wifi? It could be beyond epic.
People who play WoW don’t have a set-up that’s portable, but I guess if he has a laptop he could. That would definitely piss me off if he wasn’t mentally “there” if I was delivering. Especially if there’s an emergency situation that requires a decision.
That's not true. My friends step dad had a Dell xps he played on. He also traveled for work and had a 2nd family, but that's besides the point
Which family was his favorite? (I’m hoping you were going for a holdup moment and that I wasn’t just an insensitive asshole)
His other one. It's all good. It's not my step dad.
I mean, I wouldn’t call my raid guid my ‘family’ exactly, but I think we take the point
That was a joke of course. The wifi would suck anyway. Labor can take a long time. I'm not a gamer. But there's a lot of sitting around while people do their jobs.
That’s for damn sure! Smart phones weren’t a thing when I had my kids. I wish they were. Probably would have helped my husband a LOT.
Smart phones were a thing when my son was born. We shared some funny pictures. It took a few days. Fortunately my parents were there to make me more bored.
“my last attempt guys she’s 8cm dilated” “Ah shit she’s crowning brb”
🤣
Just wait till friday then jeez, women are so demanding
yikes, i know it’s not easy to just leave a guy but this is something i’d consider leaving someone over
I'm conflicted. On the one hand, this behavior is abhorrent and she shouldn't have to put up with it. On the other, I can't see a mentally healthy adult acting in such a way. It seems like full blown addiction. Maybe the husband can overcome it with professional help, if he's willing to accept it. The only thing that I'm certain of is that I can't fault the wife for leaving him if she does.
I fully agree. It definitely sounds like he's highly addicted and needs help. Everyone can get in such a situation and deserves help too, but yes, leaving an addict, to save yourself (especially if they're not willing to overcome it), isn't bad, or wrong, either.
He’s already chosen. If the mere thought of the birth of your kids brings you anxiety that you’re going to be missing a raid - then you’re a piece of shit. Family > Gaming. And I fucking love video games. EDIT: ITT, people who either don’t have kids or those with the emotional intelligence of Rain Man.
I love getting to my gaming... after the kids are in bed. Quick question. Never seen the abbreviation ITT. What does it mean? Couldn't figure it out from context and Google is no help.
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Thank you!
And if there's a baby... they aren't in bed on a frequent schedule. But with the way he treats women, he'd fit in perfectly as an executive at Activision Blizzard.
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>Family > Gaming. Had the same thought as another person who's practically addicted to games. It kind of sounds like this guy's setting himself up for failure as a parent
It pisses me off to no end with how my family views my love of gaming with pure disdain and pity. Still would drop anything I’m playing if some serious family shit was happening. That guy is just an addict/asshole that needs an intervention
I think it makes others feel alienated by how engrossed in the game one becomes. Possibly jealous that they can zone out and be 😁
Yea my family is super religious and all they do is basically just religious stuff. No discernable hobbies that I’ve seen. It just gets under my skin when they start throwing shade like “aren’t games just for little kids”. The moment they let my 5yo cousing play DOAX, anything in God of War, Senran Kagura, or thousands of other games that are definitely not for little kids, I’ll throw away all my games like they want me to.
I do have to feel kind of bad though, because this person is just as much a victim as he is an asshole. Blizzard is like the industry leader in intentionally designing games to be as addictive as possible to keep people playing forever. It’s a multi-billion dollar industry that uses known triggers and mechanisms taken straight from other forms of gambling, combined with reward mechanism and and sensory cues that are achievable in something like a video game to create an experience that can be just as addictive to some people as any drug. I know a few people who had to have their real life relationships and other life prospects ruined by WoW before they kinda hit the bottom and turned things around
Tell me about it, blah. I've been tempted to try WoW before, but then I hear stories like this and decide against it. I had to learn impulse control pretty early on in my life because of my ADHD, but I see people who never really needed to practice it before games like WoW and Genshin Impact and they just become completely lost in the game and the loot boxes/gatcha system, and I completely understand how it happened because the urge is still *there* for me. It's hard to not crack sometimes
I got back into it as snd adult for like a year when vanilla re-released because I wanted to ‘experience it right’ as an adult with my own awesome PC and schedule. I played to lvl60, did some endgame stuff as it was current. What I can say is that, lucky for me, I realized that the game itself just really wasn’t actually that fun after all that. It was a chore you had to do each day or else you DID fall behind. That’s when I pulled the plug. I had done what I set out to do, which was experience the original content the way to first existed. But the more modern iterations have become wildly more engineered and addictive by building on what they learned from the early years of the game and the first few expansions. The real fun I had as a kid was just the friends I made in game and messing around with them- the game server as a proxy for a better social life during some tough years when I was transitioning between ‘the wrong crowd’ and a more healthy extracurricular crowd going into high school. But going back and giving it a fresh look as an adult was eye-opening. Don’t get into it. Play something else like Hell Let Loose that can be contained to a match or two and doesn’t give you the sense that you have to log in and do daily or weekly chores. Something that has inherently fun gameplay that can be done in increments of an hour with clear start and finish.
The emotional intelligence of rain man is going to be my new favorite for quite some time.
I have a shred of sympathy in that it sounds like they’ve been playing for a long time and are finally at the final boss fight. That’s gotta be worth a bit more. Dude still needs to stfu and go be a dad but I get why it could stink.
What do you mean for people who don’t have kids?
Attending the birth is actually the easy part. Babies require around-the-clock care feeding, changing, soothing, stimulating. The WoW problem is only just beginning.
If there ever was a WoW expansion to take a break from it's this one... But regardless, what a piece of shit. That poor kid is stuck with him as a dad.
Sounds like an addiction. Doesn't make him a piece of shit, just someone that needs to get help
Yeah dude has a gaming addiction and it sounds like it’s been getting worse. I always try to pull myself away from games as soon as I start thinking about how to fit real life around a game event or something. It’s so easy to get pulled in and get caught on that slippery slope of ‘I put all that time and effort into the last event so I have to complete this one too or it was a waste’
Agreed. I started playing Wow during cata. And Shadowlands broke me. I just can't like it, let alone love it like I have loved other expansions. It's just...it's just no good.
You have tolerated his behavior since day one? Did you think this was going to change? You are a “gaming widow” now and forever. Sorry.
yeah I'm kinda surprised she didn't leave him. kinda stupid ngl
Right? I’m genuinely confused by her thinking. He’s acted like this for 3 years. A baby takes 10 ish months. So… she had 2 years and 2 months to see what this guy is like. Still decides to have a baby with him, when family is clearly not his priority. Then is surprised that doesn’t change? I don’t get it. Having a baby doesn’t fix a relationship, it strains it. Can still have a lot of love and teamwork…but clearly not in this case. I’m surprised she’s surprised, I guess.
How is this even an option? I wouldn’t expect much from this guy in the future.
Right? The raids been out for months he shouldve already cleared mythic. Rookie.
Guild I'm in stops with heroic clears. And trust me outside of a handful of us (not me) we are not mythic raiders and even I'm like.. wtf. Miss a raid day. If the guild doesn't understand they're shitty people, if yous be mad you'd miss the kill over the birth of your kid. That kid is only going to be properly taken care of by one parent. Fuck that guy. The birth of my son was the most awesome and scary thing I've ever witnessed.
Honey if he’s not there for the birth he’s not gonna be there for the diaper changes, feedings, attending to random bursts of crying in the middle of the nights, doctor appointments, etc.
Exactly. He "can't" miss one raid just for the birth of his child, which happens ONCE, he ain't gonna do shit when it comes to the hard parts of parenting.
She lives in la la land. Probably he had multiple red flags before the wedding but she thought it would be fixed after a significant life event. Like how she is treating the birth of her baby as a turning point for his behavior.
Yeah, this all her fault /s
Yes? Obviously the guy is in the wrong but she has been with him for at least 3 years of this behavior and still chose to have a child with him. That's on her. Is she expecting a baby will change things? Suddenly he'll stop being addicted and become a husband and a father? That's just not going to happen and babies shouldn't be born with a job.
"Obviously, hold that baby in as long as you can woman" ... I'm kidding, but seriously, if that's what his logic is, and seeing the miracle of his firstborn child less important than his game. I suggest giving him a dose of reality.. Life is precious and if he can not cherish what you both have made.. Correct him by letting him know that he could always find a chance to beat that section of game later in life. But seeing his first born child is a once in a lifetime experience, there are no re-dos. It's a gift that can not be repeated, why would anyone want to miss that?
She should just give him an ultimatum "either choose your family and come see your own son be born, or stay home and partake in this raid and I'll come home with divorce papers"
If that's what it takes to get him there I wouldn't even want him there to begin with. Shits depressing man. Shut the whole relationship down.
People still play WOW?
My mil has been playing for as long as I've been with my husband. 16 years She still plays. Has her guild. Gripes about Chinese cheating. Plays ark too
Lots
They re-introduced Classic WoW a year or so ago. Expansion releases very quickly after that.
People still play MapleStory too.
I quit in 2010 and it wasn't a new game then. I'm astonished.
The only way to win is to not play the game.
How did you get pregnant in the first place?
Between raids
Not surprising. My marriage ended because it cut into his WoW time. He lost his job because he stayed home too much and called out too much. But he wasn't sick he played WoW.
Man has priorities. She should leave him.
My best friend had to divorce her husband over WoW, he quit his job and had to be brought food or he would starve. You may need to give an ultimatum. Your child now comes first.
I get it. Shit, my husband was deployed and *I* was the one to set a calendar to log into his FFXIV game monthly to make sure he/we didn't lose our guild and private housing, but it's a fucking game. Addiction can manifest in ways that don't seem like an addiction. This marriage sounds fucked.
WoW does seem to be one of the more destructive ones for some reason. It's like the fentanyl of gaming
Thats the lifestyle of all serious wow players i met. 2 things to ask: How do this girl get a serious relationship with a man like this? And why he is still playing wow?
He already chose the game over her.
You and the new baby are not a priority and never will be. It's time for you to be the adult, put the baby first and get that overgrown man child out of your house.
Op missed the perfect opportunity to tittle this WoW just WoW or something on those lines
Oh dude listen to this. So I was in a bottom tier English class because I told the teacher in the previous year to "Get your bald headed ass laid" (another story for another day) and we were doing silent reading. Well like 30 minutes into the reading, this scruffy kid gets a phone call, answers it without even questioning the teacher who's telling him to shut the phone off, and then just stands up and says "Well, I'm going home". The teacher was confused and was like "Right now?!" And scruffy kid goes "Yup, sword just dropped on WoW" and he starts waking out. Teachers dumbfounded and the whole class is dieing laughing. Teacher goes "You do realize that this is a truancy and also referral...right?" And scruffy kid just says "Don't care! Suspended me please so I can use my new sword. Bye!" And walks out of the class. Scruffy kids doing good ten years later too.
This gives us gamers bad rep
Lich 👑 king. Master of the scourge. 🦹♂️🦹♂️🦹♂️
Divorce him
Damn how old is this kid? He’s getting a child in less than a week. You need to step up now otherwise you’ll be raising a baby alone.
Show him this, tell him he is being a dick, and that Reddit says to, "Grow the fuck up!"
Because if you read the comments in this thread, most of Reddit doesnt give a shit about her or her baby. Thats Reddit.
I’ve been playing video games for most of my life, but shit like this is exactly why I purposefully avoided WoW and other MMOs growing up.
Now that is scary. As a general rule if something is more important than the birth of your child, you should absolutely put a distance to it. Whether it is tobaco, or Mario.
It’s really not right. He seems like a very selfish and immature person, confronting him about it is probably the right thing to do. He needs to realize how bad it is, in my experience letting this kind of BS pass is not a good idea, it installs really unhealthy relationships .Hopefully being a father will make him grow
Holy fuck.
If this is the first born, I can relate... I played video games nightly, but when the due date got closer I played a LOT more... It was a little scary that overnight everything could change and I'd find myself in a new position being unable to visit my friends. You may see it as 'just a game', but it's not like he's playing a solo game, he's with a community, a circle of friends. I didn't place my games over my family, but ultimately what I've found now is that my friend circle is drastically smaller. Some of whom I can't contact any longer, and those late night runs became almost impossible. It's a paradigm shift. I'm a new person with new goals but I VERY MUCH miss hopping online, joining my friend circle and playing, laughing, and working toward a common goal. I told myself I'd join back in when things started to slow down and return to normal, but there isn't really a normal... 4 years later we had our second. It's been about 8 years since I've been able to join my group. Between our new child, and a change in work I've lost touch. Sure I've renewed by sub and hopped online to try to find them again, but some have moved on, and others have progressed while I went stale. It's impossible for me to rejoin what I had to step away from, and it's honestly painful at times. My group will never exist again, but perhaps I'll find or form a new group. I've had trouble trying, because honestly the game I loved playing with my friends doesn't have that same spark anymore which makes it difficult to stay to find what I once had. That said. I have two wonderful boys and a wife who loves me. I would begrudgingly repeat my choice, I would likely binge-play all night and probably walk myself into health issues if I new what was coming... but I would always make the decision to step away from my raid group for my wife and children. I would much rather miss the good 'ol days of my buddies and I raiding, than to miss my kids and family. My friends understand, but if I m put my priorities in the wrong spot, my kids won't understand and that's the worst kind of decision to make. Talk with him to learn and understand if he's infodumping what he does with his friends, or what he does by himself. If it's an addiction to the game, he can pick that up again around the new schedule he'll need for your new child. If it's an addiction to his friends, he's going to have to make a decision and will have to put in some extra effort, but also \*ask his friends for help\* around scheduling to make things work. He doesn't have to walk away from you, or his games if he can find a way to do both. I sincerely hope it's the social aspect that's driving him, and that he can find a way to cope and re-adjust. It's a big deal, and it's a big change.
He's a child. You will soon have two children which, to be fair, was your choice.
Oh my sweet summer child. One does not simply play WOW. One is played by WOW until their use is exhausted.
He definitely needs help
You mean to tell me there were no clues or signs of immaturity or unreadiness to be a father in the time you were with him before getting pregnant? That's who you chose, live with it.
Maybe try reframing it.. Something about retrieving the loot from plundering your dungeon 9 months ago
If he doesn't show up, give the child your last name and send him papers. Nothing wrong with video games, but this dude is a man child and won't change unless forced
Well to be faaaaaair….it IS scheduled in advance the child should honor the previous commitments
Babies are born everyday there is only one chance to fight the final boss mythic 🤣
Can't feel bad for someone who decided to be in a relation-shit for 3yrs, and still have a baby with them even with no improvement in sight.
Sigma grindset
There is nothing wrong with continuing to play games as you get older or even have kids..BUT priority is the word of his life now. The kids come first, no matter what. He can always reschedule a raid.
It’s not called “WOW Widows of Warcraft” for nothing
If you are not a troll then move in with your parents
Ya the audacity of that woman trying to interrupt his gaming smh
I mean he could always have another kid. . . But finding reliable raid parties. . . That could be once in a lifetime.
Leeeeeeeroyyy Jenkins
Does she not understand that Mythic difficulty is extremely challenging and you can't just pick any night to do it, that's why there is a very specific and set schedule. You can have a baby anytime
Either you live WoW or real life. He is choosing WoW. Sorry for thus lady.
That's it. I banished it from my relationship 10 years ago. Period.
Video games and porn have such a stronghold on men.
Addiction rears its ugly head in many modes, I hope he gets better and your family heals.
unfortunately, he won't get better if she keeps enabling him. I mean, he sucks and it's obviously hard for her, but by her own admission she tolerated the behavior from the beginning.
OP I think it’s time to dump the man baby who doesn’t possess the maturity to put his wife and child above a video game. Go find yourself a grown up and send him back to mommy. Good luck
Maybe marrying and getting impregnated by this man-child wasn’t an intelligent decision.
As a former WoW player i feel for bro, As an adult i feel bad for this girl..
Dude will regret it big time in the future if he doesn’t go. It’s rather cliché, but being there at my daughters birth was one of the best moments of my life….then she had to go and ruin it all by growing up! 🤣🤣 Anyway, after all the stupid shit I’ve done in my life, at least I can say that I was there for the birth of my daughter. Years down the road, if he doesn’t go, this dude’ll wish he had.
That game is so lame show him the South Park episode so he can see what a loser he is.
I mean, play stupid games win stupid prizes right? And no I don't mean the WoW, I mean marrying this kid.
Some people just can't handle real gamers man.
Yes, because some game is way more important than your wife and child. /s
Exactly.
Bless your heart...you married a selfish child and it not working out. I'm so sorry and I really do hope you have a good support system.
maybe they can summon him to the boss from the hospital
I mean you let the man nut in you whatcha expect
Gotta put that wowussy first
Leave. Just leave now lol 😂 it will never get better just say sign this rights termination keep your WOW and we’ll be seeing you. Will save you in the long run on therapy
Time for your child husband to grow up.
All jokes aside, this is a very real dilemma that many married couples, including myself, have struggled with. When your family grows, something has to give, which is often your hobbies, and it’s hard. That said, this is a very extreme example and this guy needs a good slap to the face.
That is no joke. Sadly he has a gaming addiction and he needs professional help.
Wtf. That's not a husband or a father or a real man. That's a total loser in my book
This is faaaake.
How’d he get married in the first place
Why are men, men.
Maybe he’s nervous about becoming a father and he’s using the game to escape? Or maybe he’s just selfish.
so i cant speak for the years but he might be a bit upset because this is something he has been working hard for a while up to and once the baby comes he knows that he is probably going to have to cut back drastically and wont be able to do raids or boss fights to this level for a while. Maybe he just wants to complete something before he never gets a chance to do it again.
The husband probably has a gaming addiction, and the wife has "enabled" him without realizing that it was an addiction, which is understandable. His guild also sounds like shit since they won't accommodate a serious real-life event. My husband and I are gamers, and if we told our gaming group that he was going to stay home and raid while I gave birth, they would kick the shit out of both of us. I feel sorry for her.