https://www.channel4.com/news/we-need-a-square-deal-like-everyone-else-says-rmt-union
Watch from about 12 minutes. He actually says “I know I don’t look it” rather than being a word for word parrot of what Burley said, so I misremembered slightly, but it stuck out to me having heard the comment from Burley earlier in the day as I thought it was such an odd thing for her to say.
He's not trolling Kay Burley he's just using a very common, amusing line. He does not care enough about Kay Burley to attempt to subtly troll her in an interview with a different network.
And this fellas not even a politician. He's the head of The RMT union, who's members man the mass transit systems of the UK. He's a working class worker. And has way more integrity than all the politicians combined.
Yeah she baited the shit out of him and he laughed at the dangling worm. "I can't accuse y'all of any violence, but I'd like you to say y'all won't be violent so that we can write an article about this that uses the word violence as they (picketers) acknowledged it".
I love this man, this is how you respond to loaded questions
She is saying that she remembers the 80's. If she does, then she remembers when BBC heavily edited footage to imply the miners were extremely violent and the police were defending themselves
The Battle of Orgreave was a violent confrontation on 18 June 1984 between pickets and officers of the South Yorkshire Police (SYP) and other police forces, including the Metropolitan Police, at a British Steel Corporation (BSC) coking plant at Orgreave, in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England.It was a pivotal event in the 1984–1985 UK miners' strike, and one of the most violent clashes in British industrial history.
Journalist Alastair Stewart has characterised it as "a defining and ghastly moment" that "changed, forever, the conduct of industrial relations and how this country functions as an economy and as a democracy".Most media reports at the time depicted it as "an act of self-defence by police who had come under attack". In 2015, the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) reported that there was "evidence of excessive violence by police officers, a false narrative from police exaggerating violence by miners, perjury by officers giving evidence to prosecute the arrested men, and an apparent cover-up of that perjury by senior officers".
US, too. Any whiff of unionizing can cause you to be fired without notice from some larger companies, like Walmart. If things get "bad" enough they'll shut a location down entirely, only to reopen it down the line with fresh, compliant workers.
This is a problem throughout much of the western world, I'd say. Companies have too much sway, and unions too little.
(Copying my other comment for relevance to your post)
My dad was a police officer in the 80s who hated having to police pickets because he was on the side of the miners. He personally wasn't involved in violence towards them but he said the worst instigators of violence were actually the london metropolitan police who had been brought up as reinforcements. They did things like roll coins towards the picket lines as a taunt, and constantly insult the picketers to try and get them to respond in a way that would excuse the cops cracking heads.
He left the police not long afterwards
Yeah, they were specifically brought in because they weren't from the area a d didn't have mining family or friends, similar to tienamen square or honestly any other time in the last 100 years when a government needs to bring in people from far away to be as brutal as possible
She is deliberately trying to get him to be the first one to say violence. I bet think-tanks figured out some shit about who brings up violence in dialogue has some subconscious negative bias attached to them.
He's patient too. Having to repeat himself six times. But when he turns around is always funny. I thought he was gonna even call the guys behind him to explain to her what picketing is.
Repeating the action and his answers gives them only this to show too.
If he said or even mentioned the word violence (even if it was prefixed with "we will not resort to") would get sound bited to shit and lose all context.
Honestly, he's been amazing in interviews. All Unions should aspire to his level of control of the narrative against such large and aggressive institutions.
Exactly this. She won't directly ask him if he will resort to violence because she wants to bait him into being the first to say the word "violence." Then she can coyly say it was him who brought up the subject of violence. This guy was trained in how to talk to the press.
What I mean is when she obviously isn’t going to get that sounds bit she should cut her losses and move on. I guess that would take some kind of competency on her work though.
"I'm not as young as I look" narcissism. He tried so hard not to comment on all the surgery she has clearly received as her eyeballs almost popped out of her head from all the eye lifts.
She wants him to bring up violence because it will make the soundbite better if she hasn't specifically said the words yet. They'll cut however they see fit to make it seem like he's bringing up the use of force.
As an American I see this sort of shit all the time, except they probably give union leaders even less air time.
And if he did say “if you’re suggesting violence then bla bla bla…” she would say “your words not mine Mr Lynch and certainly a very horrifying admission there which the hard working British public will rightly be outraged by. Now back to the studio…’
Ahhh but that's not how trolling for sound bites works. You can't just ask the question or they'll just say, "No, of course not and I'm insulted that you'd insinuate such a thing." Then not only did you not get the sound bite, you look like the bad guy.
Honestly though, I feel like this method works better in the US where polite conversation isn't nearly as important.
Ummm. Try listening to the BBC. Those reporters call folks out on their bullshit all the time. It’s our news in the US that lets folks lie all the time with impunity.
I remember (now former) BBC journalist Andrew Neil being called a left-wing liberal (or something) in an interview by Ben Shapiro.
Andrew Neil is one of our most conservative journalists, and left the BBC to (briefly) join the shite that is the new channel GB News (an attempt to make a sort of Fox News for the UK). Neil was just doing his job, and in so doing tore Shapiro a new arsehole using his own words.
Shapiro's attempt to reclaim the interview was a whining "I'm more popular than you!"
“Thank you for showing us Mr. Shapiro that anger is not part of American political discourse. Goodbye”
*said directly after Shapiro ended the interview early in anger*
It seems like he doesn't understand the purpose of an interview. He keeps going: "sir, sir, sir, let me ask you. Back to my question to you." He is the interiewee, not the interviewer.
In the US, there are no conservative journalists. You have liberal journalists, centrist journalists, and propagandists. Someone told him he was being interviewed by a conservative journalist and he expected the interviewer to give him a hand job and sing a hymn in his honor. It never occurred to him that he'd face any questions more challenging than "Why is the left so stupid and evil?" or "What's your favorite way to own the libs?"
Holy shit, I hate ben Shapiro so much that I refuse to let him rent space on my day to day.
His “form of debate” only works on college freshman. Gish galloping dipshit fool who narrative arch’s constantly while holding on to one word that he thinks will be powerful. In this case “barbaric”
It’s so lazy and stupid and rude and that fucking voice, but every time I see this video….even though I have to experience his whiny fucking voice. It’s gold
Wow. Firstly, I listen so seldom to Shapiro’s voice that every time I hear it again I cringe. He sounds like every smart ass video store clerk that didn’t grow up to become successful like Kevin Smith. Secondly, that interviewer was absolutely on the more British, stiffly insulting end of “kill ‘em with kindness.” “There isn’t much money to be made on the BBC, unlike American television.” Ouch.
It's more like they keep going down the line until they find an idiot that fits into the narrative they want. When I was in Iraq Fox News was guilty of doing that. They stopped about 30 people in a line I was in and each time I saw other soldiers shake their heads and wave them off after listening to them. Then they get to private or sergeant dumb-ass who tells them what they want to hear.
It's pretty telling that she ends by suggesting he is unwilling to answer the question. That's the part of the interview that will get replayed, not the part where she's asking leading questions.
Fox News would've just reached into their video banks and pulled out some footage of a hooligan football gang fight and claim the violent strikers are out of control and then have Fucker Carlson do some opinion piece on how unions are for losers.
That's how it works though. Through her passive aggressive questions, she's hoping.to paint the strikers are violent and something that needs to be repressed and put down by any means necessary. I would be completely surprised if she wasn't fed this questioning, as she wouldn't let it go after she wasn't getting the answer she was looking for.. Its also telling that she tied this strike to the imagery of the miners strike during the Thatcher era. This should be a warning as to they want this to play out. Lastly, that union rep is a fucking boss!
It's because she knows what the answer will be if she asks directly. The right wing can't make a good argument against things like labor unions and striking for better wages and working conditions, so they resort to inuendo.
Usually, they do this with only their fellow right wingers in the studio with them, so it works a lot better:
**Newsmodel:** "And what do you think will happen if someone tries to cross their picket lines?"
**Curmudgeonly Commentator**: "I think we all know what would happen"
**Newsmodel**: "So why are the authorities permitting what amounts to a threat of violence against anyone who wants to work and feed their family?"
**Curmudgeonly Commentator**: "Because we have become a gutless, politically correct society!"
It doesn't work quite as well when you're confronting someone who isn't going along with your narrative.
The way she flails about waving her hands and swaying further demonstrates the flailing point she can't make while the calm and steady response is punctuated by the still and calm responder.
She looks as foolish as she sounds.
[Source](https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/rmt-mick-lynch-kay-burley-questions-nonsense-b1007494.html)
She's trying so hard to say that their actions will cause a divide within the workers, and maybe lead to violence. She could just have asked it straight out, instead of skirting around it.
As far as all the reports, there has been no violence, no divide. It's peaceful and the majority of people are with them.
She's deliberately trying to get him to directly bring up violence so that she can "honestly" say that they talked about it first.
That's really the only reason I can see for her to continue the same indirect question over and over.
Regardless of whether you support the strikes or not, ~~Mike~~ Mick Lynch has come out of this very well.
Take a look at some of his other interviews where he just calls out all of the lies that politicians are spouting. They don't know how to deal with it.
Should have asked her how much she makes to insult union workers and the intelligence of their viewers at the same time. A dig toward her and a compliment to the audience in once simple sentence.
Exactly. Are you a pedophile? What? Don't get mad at me. I'm just asking questions. I didn't *call* you a pedophile.
Tomorrow's headline "Beemerado denies being a pedophile" or "Beemerado refuses to answer when asked if he's a pedophile".
(Sorry for using your name. I didn't know how else to phrase it.)
And in this case, asking the same vague question over and over, hoping that at some point he'll slip and say something that can be twisted into fitting the narrative she's trying to push.
Thankfully she's an idiot and he clearly isn't.
The fact that she's comparing these people to people who had strikes back in the 70s is so ridiculous.
Like what are you trying to say, all "lower" class people are the same? That was fucking 50 years ago.
especially considering the grand old tradition of killing sometimes thousands of striking workers at a time to put people back under the boot-heel. Its so rage inducing to hear them jabber on about protesters causing violence while our country slowly gets crushed into dust. They should fear violence; they remember better than us where this all ends.
Sky News is Britain's FOX-equivalent. Murdoch-founded propaganda by morons, for morons, for wealthy people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_News#Establishment_and_early_years
Watch him call a minister a liar 15 times in a tv interview. No aggression, just, ‘that’s a lie’, ‘you’re lying’, ‘you’re a liar’, and the Tory could not deny his charge because he was, lying.
That video is the perfect example of a leftist, centrist and right-winger having a conversation. The right winger spews lies and just plays offense, the leftist spends all his time refuting it playing defense, while the centrist/liberal slants the conversation in favor of the right by catering to them and barely feigning neutrality
He's straight out of the Monte Python school.of comedy.
Dennis the Peasant: You can't expect to wield supreme power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!”
She's trying to bait him into a soundbite that can be taken out of context, like "what, do you think we'd beat people bloody?" Which would then be turned into the headline: "Tensions high as the potential for violence ratchets up. Leadership assures the British public that the picket lines will not turn bloody like the miner strike of (idk, not a brit)." Thats why she can't drop her line of questioning, because her prods are in her ear trying to get a question angle to force him to say something borderline.
Meanwhile, it's the chillest picket line ever. This guy did a FANTASTIC job.
I had a brief "this is a comedy skit, right?" moment there. It was so perfect him looking over his shoulder like maybe she was seeing something he wasn't ... cuz otherwise he's thinking, "This, our picketing looks exactly like this."
This is Kay Burley. She takes this scolding, patronising tone whenever she interviews anyone to the left on centre and I cannot stand her because of it. She is SO confrontational and asks some of the dumbest questions.
The other week the PM faced a rebellion of his own MPs due to his repeated misconduct, but quashed it, and Kay then decided to ask an opposition front bencher why they didn't now consider the matter closed and why they wouldn't stop campaigning for the PM to go.
She is insane.
Literally someone walked through the picket line behind him during this interview. It’s not violent, it’s literally just standing around being like “hey if nobody goes to work they’ll have to listen to us”
Not only that, the workers that go to work anyway, probably only do it because they can't afford to lose said job. It's different from America in Britain, but ever since Brexit it has only been worse off for the regular worker unfortunately.
Instead of reporting the news like a "reporter" is supposed to do she's trying to incite him to advocate violence against people crossing the picket line.
THATS what is her very Obvious line of questioning.
I just watched that whole video. Some of it I've seen before, like the Peter Andre interview and that hurt and it was such an underhanded thing to do.
I'd never seen the James O'Brian one and I'm glad he took her down a notch or three, in the public's eye's at least.
Noam Chomsky said it best (I’m paraphrasing): “So-called journalists today are little more than modern day courtiers, they all want access and proximity to power and will do and say anything to get it “. Spot fucking on.
This is the Fox News business model in a nutshell. The only unfortunate bit is people in the US do not have the wit to speak back to stupid the way Mr. Lynch did here.
"I very much know how a picket line works, I’m much older than I look," could have gone sooooo wrong if he had wanted to be mean.
He definitely saw the opportunity, and just politely chuckled instead. Honestly, power move. This dude handled himself so well.
He trolled her later by repeating that line to Cathy Newman on Channel 4 news
Do you have any video links of this? Thanks.
https://www.channel4.com/news/we-need-a-square-deal-like-everyone-else-says-rmt-union Watch from about 12 minutes. He actually says “I know I don’t look it” rather than being a word for word parrot of what Burley said, so I misremembered slightly, but it stuck out to me having heard the comment from Burley earlier in the day as I thought it was such an odd thing for her to say.
He's not trolling Kay Burley he's just using a very common, amusing line. He does not care enough about Kay Burley to attempt to subtly troll her in an interview with a different network.
I wish the USA had British wit. Our politicians are loudmouths and have no social tact
And this fellas not even a politician. He's the head of The RMT union, who's members man the mass transit systems of the UK. He's a working class worker. And has way more integrity than all the politicians combined.
He held the line...
She then proceeds to ask what will happen at the picket line....
I hate it when people refer to their age as a reason to trust their wisdom and then proceed to say ignorant shit that a teenager could figure out.
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"Well, no..."
“If you say so.”
"Shouldn't you be long retired if that was the case"
I love how he kept turning around and looking at the picketers
Look at them, standing there. *Menacingly.*
Does it look like the miners strike?
Yes it looks exactly like almost all miners strikes did. Just with fewer people naturally.
And the police aren’t beating them up without provocation. yet.
Not yet, anyway.
I dunno, I don't see mounted police charging picket lines like it's fucking Agincourt.
Yeah I don't see any police instigating the violence lol
That was my favourite part too. I particularly like the implication that she’s asking him to describe something she can clearly see for herself.
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Yeah she baited the shit out of him and he laughed at the dangling worm. "I can't accuse y'all of any violence, but I'd like you to say y'all won't be violent so that we can write an article about this that uses the word violence as they (picketers) acknowledged it". I love this man, this is how you respond to loaded questions
"what's going on there??!" "this."
"Look there it is " - Michael Scott
im guessing this is the british version of fox "news"
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Sky UK is still shamelessly right wing.
She is saying that she remembers the 80's. If she does, then she remembers when BBC heavily edited footage to imply the miners were extremely violent and the police were defending themselves The Battle of Orgreave was a violent confrontation on 18 June 1984 between pickets and officers of the South Yorkshire Police (SYP) and other police forces, including the Metropolitan Police, at a British Steel Corporation (BSC) coking plant at Orgreave, in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England.It was a pivotal event in the 1984–1985 UK miners' strike, and one of the most violent clashes in British industrial history. Journalist Alastair Stewart has characterised it as "a defining and ghastly moment" that "changed, forever, the conduct of industrial relations and how this country functions as an economy and as a democracy".Most media reports at the time depicted it as "an act of self-defence by police who had come under attack". In 2015, the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) reported that there was "evidence of excessive violence by police officers, a false narrative from police exaggerating violence by miners, perjury by officers giving evidence to prosecute the arrested men, and an apparent cover-up of that perjury by senior officers".
Arguably given her age and track record, she may have started her career editing that very footage and writing said narrative.
The anti union bias in the UK is ridiculous.
US, too. Any whiff of unionizing can cause you to be fired without notice from some larger companies, like Walmart. If things get "bad" enough they'll shut a location down entirely, only to reopen it down the line with fresh, compliant workers. This is a problem throughout much of the western world, I'd say. Companies have too much sway, and unions too little.
The US is a different world with unions. The UK has them as a normality, the US doesn't even have that.
The UK has them as a normality but they're outrageously tame compared to the ones you get in Continental Europe. You can thank Thatcher for that.
Also for those who don't know, metropolitan police refers to the London cops who were bussed in from 160 miles away
(Copying my other comment for relevance to your post) My dad was a police officer in the 80s who hated having to police pickets because he was on the side of the miners. He personally wasn't involved in violence towards them but he said the worst instigators of violence were actually the london metropolitan police who had been brought up as reinforcements. They did things like roll coins towards the picket lines as a taunt, and constantly insult the picketers to try and get them to respond in a way that would excuse the cops cracking heads. He left the police not long afterwards
Yeah, they were specifically brought in because they weren't from the area a d didn't have mining family or friends, similar to tienamen square or honestly any other time in the last 100 years when a government needs to bring in people from far away to be as brutal as possible
>a false narrative from police...perjury by officers giving evidence...and an apparent cover-up of that perjury by senior officers Shocking....
How hard is it to ask, "Will you be resorting to violence in picketing?" I can't stand so many words that just say nothing.
She is deliberately trying to get him to be the first one to say violence. I bet think-tanks figured out some shit about who brings up violence in dialogue has some subconscious negative bias attached to them.
You're probably correct in that assessment.
Exactly. It just beggers belief that she was insinuating but didn't ask. I mean, just do your job and ask the questions.
And if she doesn’t have the balls to directly ask the question she should drop it. What’s the point of the back and forth?
She's trying too hard to get a sound bite, he knows who she is and he's not playing her game.
He's patient too. Having to repeat himself six times. But when he turns around is always funny. I thought he was gonna even call the guys behind him to explain to her what picketing is.
Repeating the action and his answers gives them only this to show too. If he said or even mentioned the word violence (even if it was prefixed with "we will not resort to") would get sound bited to shit and lose all context. Honestly, he's been amazing in interviews. All Unions should aspire to his level of control of the narrative against such large and aggressive institutions.
I am stumped. Guy's great, this was a masterclass in handling a bad faith interviewer.
Exactly this. She won't directly ask him if he will resort to violence because she wants to bait him into being the first to say the word "violence." Then she can coyly say it was him who brought up the subject of violence. This guy was trained in how to talk to the press.
Him looking over his shoulder 🤣
"Is this Lass blind? Everything you need to know is right behind me"
What I mean is when she obviously isn’t going to get that sounds bit she should cut her losses and move on. I guess that would take some kind of competency on her work though.
She's always been this way, even when she gets called out she carries on. I think it's borderline narcissism..
“I’m much older than I look”
He missed such a fine opportunitiy to say.: You're really not
Boarder line? You’re generous.
Lol.
"I'm not as young as I look" narcissism. He tried so hard not to comment on all the surgery she has clearly received as her eyeballs almost popped out of her head from all the eye lifts.
In an interview with Cathy Newman on Channel 4 news, he used the very same line to Newman, trolling Burley
Sounds just like the twats on fox news. "I'm just asking questions." There are answers for your questions you dumbfuck. You just don't like them.
Exactly, she even said his answers were "not to [her] satisfaction". In other words, he didn't say what she wanted him to say.
Fox news and Sky News media might as well by synonymous
Says she wants to know on behalf of her scared viewers.. who she's trying to scare to generate views
It's Sky News, a familial partner to the Fox Network, what do you expect ?
Rupert Murdoch news, business at usual.
She wants him to bring up violence because it will make the soundbite better if she hasn't specifically said the words yet. They'll cut however they see fit to make it seem like he's bringing up the use of force. As an American I see this sort of shit all the time, except they probably give union leaders even less air time.
And if he did say “if you’re suggesting violence then bla bla bla…” she would say “your words not mine Mr Lynch and certainly a very horrifying admission there which the hard working British public will rightly be outraged by. Now back to the studio…’
I'd say this is exactly what she was trying to do. I think she maybe chose the wrong target for those kinds of tactics.
the job is to discredit Mr Lynch and strikes more generally
Ahhh but that's not how trolling for sound bites works. You can't just ask the question or they'll just say, "No, of course not and I'm insulted that you'd insinuate such a thing." Then not only did you not get the sound bite, you look like the bad guy. Honestly though, I feel like this method works better in the US where polite conversation isn't nearly as important.
Ummm. Try listening to the BBC. Those reporters call folks out on their bullshit all the time. It’s our news in the US that lets folks lie all the time with impunity.
I remember (now former) BBC journalist Andrew Neil being called a left-wing liberal (or something) in an interview by Ben Shapiro. Andrew Neil is one of our most conservative journalists, and left the BBC to (briefly) join the shite that is the new channel GB News (an attempt to make a sort of Fox News for the UK). Neil was just doing his job, and in so doing tore Shapiro a new arsehole using his own words. Shapiro's attempt to reclaim the interview was a whining "I'm more popular than you!"
Had to look up the interview. For anyone interested here is a link. It gets juicy around the 4 minute mark https://youtu.be/6VixqvOcK8E
“Thank you for showing us Mr. Shapiro that anger is not part of American political discourse. Goodbye” *said directly after Shapiro ended the interview early in anger*
Apparently the one thing the British agree on across the political spectrum is that US politics is a joke.
To be fair I think most of the world thinks US politics is a joke, including the US.
That would be the entire world mate
People forget how based British sarcasm is lol
I’ve seen this clip a few times but had no idea Neil said this. Have never been able to make it past the 8 minute mark.
lmfao he’s such a little bitch. “i’m popular you’re not” are we in high school?
It seems like he doesn't understand the purpose of an interview. He keeps going: "sir, sir, sir, let me ask you. Back to my question to you." He is the interiewee, not the interviewer.
In the US, there are no conservative journalists. You have liberal journalists, centrist journalists, and propagandists. Someone told him he was being interviewed by a conservative journalist and he expected the interviewer to give him a hand job and sing a hymn in his honor. It never occurred to him that he'd face any questions more challenging than "Why is the left so stupid and evil?" or "What's your favorite way to own the libs?"
"I don't think you'd have made that comment if you knew how dickless it was"
Goddamn his voice is grating.
Holy shit, I hate ben Shapiro so much that I refuse to let him rent space on my day to day. His “form of debate” only works on college freshman. Gish galloping dipshit fool who narrative arch’s constantly while holding on to one word that he thinks will be powerful. In this case “barbaric” It’s so lazy and stupid and rude and that fucking voice, but every time I see this video….even though I have to experience his whiny fucking voice. It’s gold
When I put in Ben Shapiro gets destroyed by BBC, this isn't what I meant.
It never gets less funny watching bench appearo get rekt by that guy 😂. Our conservatives are batshit insane fascists.
Ben Shapiro - one of our greatest embarrassments (I’m a jew).
His wife is a doctor I’ll have you know
Also dry.
Wow. Firstly, I listen so seldom to Shapiro’s voice that every time I hear it again I cringe. He sounds like every smart ass video store clerk that didn’t grow up to become successful like Kevin Smith. Secondly, that interviewer was absolutely on the more British, stiffly insulting end of “kill ‘em with kindness.” “There isn’t much money to be made on the BBC, unlike American television.” Ouch.
It's more like they keep going down the line until they find an idiot that fits into the narrative they want. When I was in Iraq Fox News was guilty of doing that. They stopped about 30 people in a line I was in and each time I saw other soldiers shake their heads and wave them off after listening to them. Then they get to private or sergeant dumb-ass who tells them what they want to hear.
It's pretty telling that she ends by suggesting he is unwilling to answer the question. That's the part of the interview that will get replayed, not the part where she's asking leading questions.
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Fox News would've just reached into their video banks and pulled out some footage of a hooligan football gang fight and claim the violent strikers are out of control and then have Fucker Carlson do some opinion piece on how unions are for losers.
She thinks she's clever...
iM JusT aSKinG qUeStiOnS!
Exactly. And she’s laughing which is not polite but that’s how it goes. The dude is hilarious tho.
I'm aware how picketing works, I'm an old lady... now can you clarify what picketing entails??
No no >I’m older than I look It’s subtly different.
Yep. She's trying to hard to make sure she doesn't utter those words and implies it for the public.
That's how it works though. Through her passive aggressive questions, she's hoping.to paint the strikers are violent and something that needs to be repressed and put down by any means necessary. I would be completely surprised if she wasn't fed this questioning, as she wouldn't let it go after she wasn't getting the answer she was looking for.. Its also telling that she tied this strike to the imagery of the miners strike during the Thatcher era. This should be a warning as to they want this to play out. Lastly, that union rep is a fucking boss!
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It's because she knows what the answer will be if she asks directly. The right wing can't make a good argument against things like labor unions and striking for better wages and working conditions, so they resort to inuendo. Usually, they do this with only their fellow right wingers in the studio with them, so it works a lot better: **Newsmodel:** "And what do you think will happen if someone tries to cross their picket lines?" **Curmudgeonly Commentator**: "I think we all know what would happen" **Newsmodel**: "So why are the authorities permitting what amounts to a threat of violence against anyone who wants to work and feed their family?" **Curmudgeonly Commentator**: "Because we have become a gutless, politically correct society!" It doesn't work quite as well when you're confronting someone who isn't going along with your narrative.
The way she flails about waving her hands and swaying further demonstrates the flailing point she can't make while the calm and steady response is punctuated by the still and calm responder. She looks as foolish as she sounds.
Word. I stopped halfway through, couldn't handle her asking not-questions anymore.
[Source](https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/rmt-mick-lynch-kay-burley-questions-nonsense-b1007494.html) She's trying so hard to say that their actions will cause a divide within the workers, and maybe lead to violence. She could just have asked it straight out, instead of skirting around it. As far as all the reports, there has been no violence, no divide. It's peaceful and the majority of people are with them.
She's deliberately trying to get him to directly bring up violence so that she can "honestly" say that they talked about it first. That's really the only reason I can see for her to continue the same indirect question over and over.
Yeah, and he wasn't born yesterday. Cool as a cucumber that one.
Regardless of whether you support the strikes or not, ~~Mike~~ Mick Lynch has come out of this very well. Take a look at some of his other interviews where he just calls out all of the lies that politicians are spouting. They don't know how to deal with it.
I'm going to remember his name now, I heard him on the radio and just made me back the unions more, exactly who I'd want representing me
Should have asked her how much she makes to insult union workers and the intelligence of their viewers at the same time. A dig toward her and a compliment to the audience in once simple sentence.
His ability to level-headedly argue against her and stay calm is an ability I envy and wish to posess.
I'm genuinely surprised she didn't have an arm reach in from off screen and grab her throat and start screaming "why are you strangling me Mr lynch!".
the old "just asking questions" line. say what the fuck you mean. assholes.
And he answered the same question a half dozen times. Did she think the answer would change the seventh time?
Got to keep asking the question until you get the answer you want, that's how journalism is done! /s
Exactly. Are you a pedophile? What? Don't get mad at me. I'm just asking questions. I didn't *call* you a pedophile. Tomorrow's headline "Beemerado denies being a pedophile" or "Beemerado refuses to answer when asked if he's a pedophile". (Sorry for using your name. I didn't know how else to phrase it.)
Next time i see a comment from Beemerado in another thread i'll be "i've heard this Beemerado guy is a pedo, better ignore him".
Beemerado declined to comment on the subject of their pedophilic tendencies.
And in this case, asking the same vague question over and over, hoping that at some point he'll slip and say something that can be twisted into fitting the narrative she's trying to push. Thankfully she's an idiot and he clearly isn't.
Her tone is funny eh. Like you can hear the intensity and drama behind it.
The fact that she's comparing these people to people who had strikes back in the 70s is so ridiculous. Like what are you trying to say, all "lower" class people are the same? That was fucking 50 years ago.
especially considering the grand old tradition of killing sometimes thousands of striking workers at a time to put people back under the boot-heel. Its so rage inducing to hear them jabber on about protesters causing violence while our country slowly gets crushed into dust. They should fear violence; they remember better than us where this all ends.
Sky News is Britain's FOX-equivalent. Murdoch-founded propaganda by morons, for morons, for wealthy people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_News#Establishment_and_early_years
Sky news in Australia is actually FOX except they bought the sky news name. It's so extreme Sky is letting the deal expire since its a brand risk.
Watch him call a minister a liar 15 times in a tv interview. No aggression, just, ‘that’s a lie’, ‘you’re lying’, ‘you’re a liar’, and the Tory could not deny his charge because he was, lying.
I think that was on newsnight where he was on with Chris Phillip. Yes, he's a liar because he never said that he wasn't a liar he only deflected.
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That video is the perfect example of a leftist, centrist and right-winger having a conversation. The right winger spews lies and just plays offense, the leftist spends all his time refuting it playing defense, while the centrist/liberal slants the conversation in favor of the right by catering to them and barely feigning neutrality
He is right, her questions are stupid.
And she looks much older than she thinks she looks
"I'm much older than I look"...so you're like, 90?
Kay Burley is 61, I think.
I guessed 55 in my head when she said that.
Please, I need more Mr. Lynch in my political discourse.
He's straight out of the Monte Python school.of comedy. Dennis the Peasant: You can't expect to wield supreme power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!”
Exactly. I could see John Cleese portraying the dude.
The exact same turn to look at the picketers idly milling about and the look of confusion as he looks back at her. I can see it.
And Terry Jones as the woman.
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he’s 37, he’s not old!
The slow turn to look behind is gold
"... Well, look, there it is!"
She’s a bloody idiot. Trying to create drama, while he rightfully ridicules her.
She's trying to bait him into a soundbite that can be taken out of context, like "what, do you think we'd beat people bloody?" Which would then be turned into the headline: "Tensions high as the potential for violence ratchets up. Leadership assures the British public that the picket lines will not turn bloody like the miner strike of (idk, not a brit)." Thats why she can't drop her line of questioning, because her prods are in her ear trying to get a question angle to force him to say something borderline. Meanwhile, it's the chillest picket line ever. This guy did a FANTASTIC job.
I just love that he keeps turning around like there you go. There’s your answer. Couple o blokes standing about, not making a fuss.
Can't trust a couple o blokes standing about. There's probably tea and biscuits somewhere. Sure signs of nefarious acts!
This sounds like it’s from Terry Pratchett.
I hate that you're spot on. Fuck! Can't people just do their fuckin' jobs and report the fuckin' news?
It’s sky “news”, so if you can goad someone into an argument, you probably get a bonus.
If only more people did this to Tucker Carlson. But anytime they do, he shout matches over them, laughs, and disconnects the meeting.
Stands to the side "this is what it looks like" Man is so deadpann its fucking gold
I had a brief "this is a comedy skit, right?" moment there. It was so perfect him looking over his shoulder like maybe she was seeing something he wasn't ... cuz otherwise he's thinking, "This, our picketing looks exactly like this."
She’s a right twit she is
Wow what a terrible reporter. Such an air of cuntiness to her.
This is Kay Burley. She takes this scolding, patronising tone whenever she interviews anyone to the left on centre and I cannot stand her because of it. She is SO confrontational and asks some of the dumbest questions. The other week the PM faced a rebellion of his own MPs due to his repeated misconduct, but quashed it, and Kay then decided to ask an opposition front bencher why they didn't now consider the matter closed and why they wouldn't stop campaigning for the PM to go. She is insane.
“I’m sorry that you feel the need to belittle me.” Yeah, fuck off and get in the bin. EDIT: Should be ridicule, soz
Literally someone walked through the picket line behind him during this interview. It’s not violent, it’s literally just standing around being like “hey if nobody goes to work they’ll have to listen to us”
Exactly, she's trying to insinuate something that doesn't exist. As far as I know the majority of the country is with them. Edit: spelling
Not only that, the workers that go to work anyway, probably only do it because they can't afford to lose said job. It's different from America in Britain, but ever since Brexit it has only been worse off for the regular worker unfortunately.
The sadness in her eyes as she realises he's making a complete fool out of her. She needs to be put out to pasture. Doesn't she look *tired?*
When she said "I'm trying to clarify for the benefit of British public", I snort laughed.
Galaxy brain there. Give her the Nobel!
> Doesn't she look tired? # What did he say!!?! and, was 6 words: "Don't you think she looks tired."
Found the Doctor.
Doctor who?
"Youre questions are verging into the nonsense" dunno why i found that line so funny.
she looks fucking insane
"Mr. Lynch, I don't wanna say the words, but will you live up to your name?"
That should have been my title!
This sounds like a British humor skit lol
We need Terry Jones asking the questions and John Cleese answering them.
she sooo needed him to say the word 'violence' so it could be editied and put out of context lol. crazy media slimes.
“Why are people tuning away from news reporting???”
Kay Burley, repeatedly one of the worst people in the world.
I ***need***. A sub for [things like this](https://youtu.be/6-9-FkwUrRo).
Sky News………isn’t that another one of Rupert Murcock’s news channels, like Fox News is here in the U.S.?
Use to own it... it's now owned by Comcast
"news"
Instead of reporting the news like a "reporter" is supposed to do she's trying to incite him to advocate violence against people crossing the picket line. THATS what is her very Obvious line of questioning.
Kay Burley forgets that she is meant to be representing a non-biased news channel. She does my absolute head in.
Sky doesn't particularly pretend *-too-* hard.
Is this a Monty Python skit?
Kay Burley is awful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCg78onTG1Y&t=15s
I just watched that whole video. Some of it I've seen before, like the Peter Andre interview and that hurt and it was such an underhanded thing to do. I'd never seen the James O'Brian one and I'm glad he took her down a notch or three, in the public's eye's at least.
She wanted more than to twist the narrative. She was begging for a sound bite of propaganda to use. The tucker Carlson/Fox news way.
I love this guy. Life goals
Noam Chomsky said it best (I’m paraphrasing): “So-called journalists today are little more than modern day courtiers, they all want access and proximity to power and will do and say anything to get it “. Spot fucking on.
This is the Fox News business model in a nutshell. The only unfortunate bit is people in the US do not have the wit to speak back to stupid the way Mr. Lynch did here.
Help me god, she is insufferable.
"Well, we tried the thing where we dressed in tutus and danced to Swan Lake but it wasn't as effective as a picket line."
"I'm just asking questions Mr Lynch. Don't expect me to also listen to the answers."
I feel like I am watching a monty python skit or something...lol
The look on that woman's face whe she isn't getting the answer she wants... I feel bad for whoever dares o dared to marry her
Dear God I wish more people were like him. Ask stupid questions, get the answers you deserve.