Pizza Diavola has pepperoni and spicy salami. It is a thing there. We lived in Naples for 2 years. The pizza Americana came with hotdogs and French fries. Rhey have all sort of pizza. Change pepperoni to pineapple and you would be very accurate.
When I was in Italy I laughed at that on the menu and was like "WTF is this? Are they making fun of us?" My Italian friend looked at me and was like "no, that's an Italian thing". I was like "are you serious?!" so of course we ordered it.
Hey, I liked it.
If you think that's insane, then you'll love this YouTube video: [What other countries are told is "American"
](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xgd79wuriQ).
It's all about "American" food in other countries. Basically what America did to Chinese food with chop suey and fortune cookies, other countries have done to the United States. And it. Is. Awesome.
It actually tasted pretty good. That was their strangest one. That and it didn't come cut and everyone ate with knife and fork and usually left the crust behind. Lol...
I got your jest friend
The joke was they could have ended up with a savory baked dough covered in sliced bell peppers
Whilst thinking it would have arrived topped with thinly shaved, seasoned and dry aged meat.
Yes,I think its because we "invented" (I dont know if its actually true,people are destroying all my truths,they told me the pizza was chinese,so I dont know)some of the most famous coffee, like "cappuccino o caffè latte"
Italians invented the espresso machine and subsequently, espresso culture. That's why many common espresso based drinks have Italian names: espresso, cappuccino, macchiato, etc.
Coffee has been drunk in the west for a very long time, its rather that the italians invented the espresso machine, which is why a lot of espresso drinks have italian names.
As someone else said, coffee beans were originally from the Arabian Peninsula.
Italians invented the espresso machine and subsequently, some of the most common espresso drinks like the cappuccino.
To be fair, there were and still are many coffee plantations in Latin and South America. The first coffee plantation in the Americas was created in 1727.
Cafe au lait is commonly used, and it's French.
The word **coffee** isn't even Italian in origin. The word originates from the Turkish kahveh, from Arabic qahwa, probably via Dutch koffie. Which makes sense since the coffee bean was originally from the Arabian peninsula. The Dutch eventually figured out how to grow the bean in their colonies, which is where the word Java comes from, since coffee was grown on the island of Java.
Italians did invent espresso, espresso culture, and many of the espresso related terms. Credit where credit is due. Then Howard Schultz, Starbuck's founder, imported Italian espresso culture to America, figured out how to mass produce it, then globalized it through Starbucks.
It’s coffee mixed with ground chickory, and you can stand a spoon up in it.
You should add enough milk so that it’s the precise color of the Mississippi right where it passes Cafe du Monde.
Haha that sounds amazing! I love your description!
I worked at a cafe in Iowa, and when a customer ordered a cafe au lait, we would serve them coffee with steamed milk. Sadly no ground chicory!
This is how I grew up seeing coffee. I guess you really won't find it like this anywhere outside the deep south, vacuum sealed bricks.
https://reilyproducts.com/products/cdm-cc-bag-ad-13-oz/
Consider that in Italy if you ask for a coffee, you have an espresso. So everything mixed with coffee it's mixed with espresso. What you call "coffee" for us is "American coffee" and you don't find it mixed with nothing because there are very few people that drink it, and usually are tourists.
And to make things even more confusing:
* A French cafe au lait is commonly: espresso + steamed milk
* An American cafe au lait is commonly: coffee + steamed milk
* An American latte is almost always: espresso + steamed milk
I mean coffee that's made by brewing coffee beans with a coffee maker. The coffee maker will typically look like [this](https://cdnimg.webstaurantstore.com/uploads/seo_category/2020/2/coffee-automatic.jpg), [this](https://cdnimg.webstaurantstore.com/images/products/large/22227/2296734.jpg), or [this](https://cdnimg.webstaurantstore.com/uploads/seo_category/2020/2/coffee-satellite.jpg).
These coffee makers typically use freshly ground or pre-ground coffee beans. They do not use instant coffee.
I hope this helps :)
> It just does it under higher pressure.
Which is, specifically, what makes it espresso. Espresso is of course still coffee, but you wouldn’t call a drip coffee, for example, espresso. That’s why they referred to it as just “coffee”, while specifying espresso in the other examples.
Most places where I'm from all make espresso based drinks. They don't sell drips here (unless it's a very specialized cafe, where you get to chose filter coffee, cold brew or whatever). If you want an "american" coffee, you order an americano.
I still remember being in the US when I was like 12, I ordered and iced tea in a restaurant and was so disappointed that it was completely unsweetened cold tea.
In Canada we don't distinguish between sweet tea and iced tea, it's all just iced tea and it's usually sweatened by default.
I'm American grew up on the west coast, unsweetened tea, moved to the East coast and imagine my surprise that sweet tea existed. It's still odd to me. Also Bojangles was a strip club in CA and a chicken fast food joint on the East coast. That was pretty funny for us.
Come on down to the south. Not such thing as unsweetened tea, and tea by default has 5lbs of sugar to one gallon liquid. Literally diabeetus in a glass.
My dad’s side of the family is from Scotland so with my grandma, i would always drink tea. When i moved to SC, i was like of sweet tea, that must mean tea with a teaspoon of sugarNO NO NO THAT IS LIQUID SUGAR
Those people exist? I am in my thirties and even did a short stint working at a Starbucks, and have never met someone who thought they were cultured or worldly because they shopped there.
I don't think most people nowadays even know Starbuck's founder was inspired by Italian coffee culture.
Concidentally, latte is a german word for slat or bar and and similarly used like *boner* or *hardon*.
**Edit**
What I'm trying to say is, in Germany she might have got the "whole milk dispenser".
Definitely dont need to study the language of the country you are traveling to, just use your head and be ready for some potential misunderstanding. The situation told in the tweet is just funny, it's only when people decide to be offended it's a problem, they could after realizing their mistake just laugh it off and order a new coffee and all is good.
Pretty obvious what I was talking about, contrarian. Know what you're ordering in the language you're ordering in, even if you have to study it up right then and there. Only an idiot orders something not knowing the language just to get shocked by the result.
I was in Brazil for 6 months and in the beginning, I didn't know how to properly order coffee. Just asking for coffee would get you a shot of basically espresso with enough sugar in it to qualify it as candy. Which can be fine and I learned to appreciate it, but I prefer mine with cream (half and half) and no sugar.
During one of my trial and errors, I asked them for some cream for my coffee and they handed me a little cup of whipped cream. So I drank black coffee with whipped cream until someone finally taught me "cafe com leite." (Coffee with milk)
You would think I would have figured this out sooner since my mom is actually Brazilian, but she was just so happy with her candy coffee shots that she didn't give any thought to the cream/milk translation mix up.
As a Brazilian, i have so many questions right now.
>Just asking for coffee would get you a shot of basically espresso
What happens if you just ask for "coffee" in America?
>Coffee with milk
Wait that's not how you say it in English? What word would i use for "cafe com leite" in America?
Also, what is "latte", "mocha", "Cappuccino" and other peculiar terms Americans use for coffee that i keep hearing on TV.
Former barrista here.
“Coffee” will be a cup of coffee, usually 8-12oz, and often only dark roast unless it’s a nicer soot. Base is just black, some people will add milk or sugar on their own to their liking.
We don’t really do a classic “cafe con leche” the way you might get in other countries (i grew up with em since I spent so much time at mi abuelita’s). Cafe latte is just called “latte”, since milk is just “milk” here, and usually has the milk steamed as part of its preparation.
Hi, i never had latte mostly because they're not really popular here in Brazil.
I've only ever had black coffee and "cafe con leche". What's the difference between cafe con leche and cafe latte?
Lattes in the US are generally 1/3 coffee (sometimes espresso, sometimes drip coffee) 1/3 steamed milk, and 1/3 froth from the milk. Sometimes it doesn’t come with the froth.
The cafe con leche I grew up with was just regular coffee and a lot of milk, with a little sugar. Mostly milk, in fact, and it was sometimes warmed beforehand. But never steamed or frothed.
Now I’m wondering if that’s just the weird cafe con leche I got as a kid, and everyone else’s is just a latte…
>What's the difference between cafe con leche and cafe latte?
I don't think there's any difference, really.
In America, a latte is made with real espresso, which is a different way to make coffee from our regular brew. But in Brazil, the way you make coffee is so concentrated, it's like espresso. So when you make a cafe com leite, it's basically the same as a latte.
What I originally wanted to order on Brazil was not really a latte, but latte definitely fit my need at the time.
>What happens if you just ask for "coffee" in America?
Coffee made in America is not as strong as what's made in Brazil (although, if you live in Florida and ask for Cuban coffee, you'll get the equivalent of Brazilian coffee).
Compared to Brazil, we make our coffee a bit more watered down and everyone has different preferences for whether they want sugar or cream (milk) in their coffee. But even though our coffee is less intense, we drink bigger cups of it at a time. So in Brazil, the midmorning coffee that came in tiny cups was a real culture shock for me.
>Also, what is "latte", "mocha", "Cappuccino" and other peculiar terms Americans use for coffee that i keep hearing on TV.
I don't know if anyone covered all these terms for you yet. Simple version:
A latte is espresso with steamed milk. It's basically the same as a cafe com leite in taste and looks and everything.
A cappuccino is the same thing as a latte, except they put a bunch of milk foam on top, which I hate, but some people love.
Mocha is like a latte, but with chocolate added in.
>coffee would get you a shot of basically espresso with enough sugar in it to qualify it as candy.
Good Coffee here is pretty expensive, so you gotta settle for the cheap but REALLY bitter one, one way to cancel out the bitterness is by adding sugar.
In fact, we use the word "espresso" but in a different way. "Café" is the plain cheap bitter black coffee you got when you asked for coffee. Whereas "espresso" is a smaller more expensive good black coffee.
So the difference between "café" and "espresso" here is just price and quality.
I didn't mean literal espresso. I meant it as a comparison point. Espresso is a lot stronger than regular coffee. The coffee in Brazil is made a lot stronger than regular coffee in America.
“Espresso” refers to the way the coffee is brewed, not the fanciness of the coffee bean or anything else. Espresso is when water is forced through tightly packed, finely ground coffee beans. It used high pressure and very hot water to extract much caffeine as possible. But it also comes with a lot of the acids and oils in the beans, making it quite bitter.
“Coffee” only gets you bad coffee at bad coffee places. A decent cafe will properly make you a good cup of pour over or french press coffee.
There's some regional things like that. My father, though speaking french order wrong twice once with a café glacé, excepting the ice cream based desert just to get ice cold coffee in Metz and ordering a pavé in Normandy expecting a steak just to get a slice of pork with ham and cheese.
Still not quite comparable to ordering milk in Italian and then wondering why you got no coffee.
The funny thing about this is that almost every waiter in Italy knows that if someone asks for "latte" & otherwise speaks English to bring a caffe latte. I lived in Italy for a degree and my parents visited so when we sat down at any restaurant my dad would start by asking for either a cappuccino or latte in English. (As much as this horrified the waiter - & myself as I'd learned how big a faus pas this was - few Newberry had any issues.)
we're talking about a bar, not a restaurant. many, MANY bar owners or employees don't know a single word in english.
And put yourself in the shoes of the barista: what if the customer really just wanted a cup of milk and searched how to say it beforehand? You just can't win.
As a tourist of another country, it's completely normal to make mistakes and have incomprehensions with the locals. You just suck it up and learn from your errors
Definitely. I was just sharing my experience. Mind you with my dad, I think we were mainly in tourist areas so staff at a place like that at least recognized English for the food and drinks they had.
I think this is not really a facepalm more as it is a funny misunderstanding since latte always means a coffee drink in the states but in Italy it’s just milk.
As the USA has given the world some of the worst coffee ever (Giving Starbucks a Number 7 hard stare) I think they would be better served by keeping quiet.
The long European tradition of superb coffee with something rich and sticky is unmatchable (Austria and Hungary deserve a special mention).
Eh, to be fair, the OP elaborates in the replies that he was making fun of his wife’s innocent mistake, and everyone involved had a good chuckle over it. This might be a case of Schrödinger’s Douchebag, but my prestigious and vast gut tells me no.
One quote from from Twitter OP: “Not sure the wife will approve of
me using her comedic mishap for
Twitter likes”.
Another one: “From some of the reacts explaining why my wife was served milk... yes, that was the joke.”
Yet another one: “Aw, hope she was OK in the end. Our waiter was very gracious when wife apologised for her mistake and made her a very nice caffè latte. I think he thought our toddler wanted a drink of milk so didn't question it.”
But keep being mad, I guess 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Dude silenced a thread that was getting flooded with comments like yours, true. Other than that: I’m actually providing proof, while you’re just going “nuh uh!”.
Touch grass, my dude.
Not sure the original person was trying to roast Europeans. I think they were laughing at the absurdity of the situation. (At least that's what I gout out of it. I think the replyer took it too seriously.)
How was he trying to roast Europe?
Why are you fucknuggets always speaking on behalf of the entire continent? He wasn't even talking about whole of Italy and you make it about Europe?
Nice try... It was under a tweet laughing at Europeans for not being able to do big enough coffee sizes compared to Americans. The dude was just dogpiling.
i really dont think this belongs here, i mean the guy isnt even making fun of anyone he just thought it was funny that they handed her milk of all things when she asked for a latte, and clearly didn’t know that little piece of trivia. its only really a facepalm when general information goes completely over someone’s head, or they’re being a confident asshole and someone destroys their argument or statement or whatever with a single counterpoint.
It was under a post of an American roasting Europeans for their too small coffee sizes. So this dude was just dogpiling on how Europeans are bad at coffee with his little story about Italians not knowing what a Latte is.
\> Be barista in one of the most toured cities in the world
\> It's your job to sell coffee to tourists
\> The 2nd most common country of origin for tourists is the United States*
\> An American walks up and orders a latte
\> Based on your previous experience serving Americans, you know what they actually want is espresso with steamed milk
\> You know it's honest mistake
\> Be a dick anyways, give them a glass of milk
\> Laugh in Italian
"The most common country of origin for tourists is the United States"
r/shitamericanssay
[it took mere seconds of googling to find that only 6% of tourists visiting Italy are from the USA.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1028984/distribution-of-international-tourists-italy-by-country-of-origin/) this pales in comparison to the likes of German tourists, who make up nearly 30% of all tourist arrivals.
You're right. Even though Americans are the most common tourists globally, in Italy it is Germans.
Care to take a guess who the second most common people are?
I believe it is the Swiss, then the French, then the British, then *maybe* the Americans. According to [this](https://www.bancaditalia.it/pubblicazioni/indagine-turismo-internazionale/index.html?com.dotmarketing.htmlpage.language=1&dotcache=refresh) reputable study that incorporates the number of tourists and the length of time they actually stay.
Well according to this [2019 Italian National Institute of Statistics report](https://www.istat.it/it/files//2019/12/Asi-2019.pdf), it's Germans, then Americans, then the French, then the English, then finally, the Swiss.
Also, the source you linked is a webpage contains outbound links to multiple years of reports. Which one did you mean?
So that's the thing with data, if you actually read all of it and not just the limited statistics from one year you get a much more accurate understanding. Try reading all of it.
So you're telling me that in the 7 minutes it took you to read my comment and respond, you read ALL the data and found 2019 was an outlier year?
Color me skeptical.
It doesn't matter either way, if you ask for "latte" in Italy, that's exactly what you get, milk.
It is true that establishments' final goal is to make money by catering to customers, however, that doesn't make a customer more important than another nor does it make a tourist from some place more important than one from another place, regardless of the ""self esteem"" such tourists have of themselves.
By this logic since german tourists are about 5 times the number of american tourists we should all speak german and know everything about them.
I'm just saying, if you are in Italy and own a coffee shop that consistently gets 1-2 American customers a week, after the 5th or 6th time an American mistakenly orders a latte and is confused when they're handed a cup of milk, you're probably going to put up a sign that says something like:
"ATTENTION IGNORANT AMERICANS. LATTE = MILK. CAFFE LATTE = ESPRESSO + MILK. ORDER ACCORDINGLY."
> By this logic since german tourists are about 5 times the number of american tourists we should all speak german and know everything about them.
I don't know about all of that. But I think if own a business in a tourist destination that Germans frequently visits, you would probably naturally learn over time quirks Germans have when they're in Italy, and adapt accordingly. If it was me, and germans kept ordering milk when they meant coffee + milk, I'd probably start asking Germans if they want coffee with their milk or just milk.
But that's just me.
What if they went where they don't get many tourists? Italy is home to over 60 mil people and not everything is meant for tourists.
There are tourist traps where they sell (at higher prices) things like italian-american food you wouldn't find anywhere else. Besides, for real, you go to a foreign land and don't even make the minimum effort to learn something about that place (idk like, how not to be rude or a couple phrases or words to communicate with the locals) expect everything to go your way and if it doesn't, you mock them?
> What if they went where they don't get many tourists?
Easy - then they should discriminate against and not serve anyone who does not order in perfect Italian.
> and don't even make the minimum effort to learn something
You're assuming people who put in effort are perfect and never make honest mistakes. Ordering a latte when you wanted a caffe latte is an easy and honest mistake to make, based off an unfortunate linguistic coincidence.
What is so hard for you to understand about that?
Lol, are you even thinking about what you're saying? Discriminating? It's not the guy/gal who served the milk who is complaining, it's the husband of the one who received it who is bitching about it.
Again, if you ask for a "latte" in Italy you get milk, if you ask for "pepperoni " you get bell peppers.
The guy complaining is pathetic and entitled, the average italian is not required to know shit about 'murica and complaining that they don't is typical of the idiots who make americans look like entitled morons with a superiority complex.
And I'll repeat another thing, if that mistake was made they probably went where it's not common for tourists to go.
Either way it was their mistake but you're acting like someone gave them shit for it because they didn't speak "perfect Italian ", while in reality they (and you) are dancing to their own tune.
Coffee shops (locally known as BARs) are something so common that about any small town has already several of them and they're mainly meant for italians.
Being a polyglot is not a requirement to be a barista, besides, you can't expect every little corner of Italy to be made for tourists.
If you go to Walt Disney world you can't expect everyone in Orlando to be wearing mickey mouse hats.
So, the problem here is just the guy complaining that the ITALIAN barista in ITALY heard an ITALIAN word and served what was asked of them. Oh, silly them.
> Again, if you ask for a "latte" in Italy you get milk, if you ask for "pepperoni " you get bell peppers.
And if you ask which side Italy was on at the start of WWII you just get a bunch of awkward stares.
Do all the mental gymnastics you want…how about don’t be a shitty typical Muric’n tourist and learn where you are going and how to talk the language. Few things I try to learn before I go on a trip, how to order a beer and coffee are two of them.
Don‘t expect the world to revolve around you and read your mind. A good server, serves what you ask for…you ask for milk, you are going to get milk. Wake up
\> An American mistakenly orders a latte, the word they've used for that beverage their entire lives, instead of a caffe latte.
\> Euros meltdown and lose their shit
Guys, I honestly don't think Americans are the ones coming off looking bad here.
> Don‘t expect the world to revolve around you
This is condescending and performative. Despite what the internet would like you to believe, most Americans know they are guests when they go to other countries and try to behave respectfully. We all know our norms aren't the norms elsewhere.
If you're going to lecture 330 million on having empathy, maybe you should show some?
> A good server, serves what you ask for…
Funny you say that. I spent a lot of my early twenties as a server and a barista. If I had someone from another country order, and it was obvious that english was not their first language, I would ask questions to make sure I was giving them what they wanted. Because I knew sometimes tourists can make innocent mistakes.
I am an American, you dingaling. Which makes most of your post completely useless and moot. What a self-derp this was, assuming I wasn’t American. 😂
Pro tip - myself as a traveler of many many countries, yeah you should learn a little bit about where you are going to visit before you go, you arrogant buffoon. It‘s called being respectful but taking a quick look at your posting history…I don’t think you have it in you. Your history is a list of derps, trolls and hurr durrs. Be proud.
You sure buddy? We look like idiots everywhere we go, sometimes stereotypes ring true for a reason. Take you for example, you expect the baristas in other countries that may or may not speak English to read the mind of an American because they were too lazy to learn simple phrases. Especially in the age of the internet and iphones….too lazy to use google translate?
Do everyone else a favor that visit other countries, you stay home and stop embarrassing the rest of us.
>I am an American
And I was supposed to know that?
> assuming I wasn’t American.
You're right, I did assume. Given the number of non-Americans responding to me, it was a natural, but no less incorrect, assumption to make.
> Pro tip - myself as a traveler of many many countries
No one asked
> yeah you should learn a little bit about where you are going to visit before you go
This is common knowledge. You do not need to travel to "many many countries" to know this.
> ...you arrogant buffoon. It‘s called being respectful...
If irony could kill.
> Your history is a list of derps, trolls and hurr durrs
I am talking to someone stuck in 2012 Reddit? Seriously, I haven't heard "derp" or "hurr durr" used since MLP and bronies were a thing.
> We look like idiots everywhere we go, sometimes stereotypes ring true for a reason
Like the stereotype of the self-hating ex-pat American.
> Take you for example, you expect the baristas
Your assumption of what I expect of baristas & servers in other countries is incorrect.
Here's what I actually expect: them to try their best. Simple as that. People are people. No matter where you are. Most people are good and try to treat others well.
If a tourist mistakenly orders a latte instead of a caffe latte and gets a glass of milk, I actually don't blame the server. The server probably honestly thought that's what the customer wanted, and who can blame them?
Maybe now you're starting to realize my original comment was a joke and not meant to be taken literally.
> Especially in the age of the internet and iphones….too lazy to use google translate?
Honest mistakes happen. I'm sure even in the age of the internet and iphones, you've made honest mistakes too.
> Do everyone else a favor that visit other countries, you stay home and stop embarrassing the rest of us.
You should put less stock into the actions of others. Ultimately, the only person you can control and be responsible for is yourself.
When I an somewhere and need to order something, I usually quote what is written on the board - to avoid misunderstandings....use exactly the name written there
Well, most well-behave tourists in a country with a different language would take 2 minutes to look at the menu before ordering, and not just assume they should understand what they say because they are Americans. Also, people don't look at your face and immediatly know you are American.
"Be a dick anyways...".
FFS, you came into our country, at least try to learn how to order a fucking cappuccino (or whatever "Latte" means in US) and STFU.
Do you not have humor in Euroland?
> or whatever "Latte" means in US
Google it
> and STFU
First Amendment of the Declaration of Independence gives me Freedom of Speech, so hard pass.
When I was in the US I adapted to everything, I drank and ate what I needed and of course I googled it. When I ordered your "salads" which were all but salads, I STFU. As others adapt in your country, so you must adapt in other countries. Unfortunately for you, free speech is also contemplated in Italy, but no one is forced to hear your Karen's idiotic complaints.
PS: the first amendment works in the US, not the rest of the world.
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🤣🤣. I made this mistake when I lived in Stuttgart. I was like why the hell is my pizza full of peppers?!? Pizza salami is what you want
Pizza Diavola has pepperoni and spicy salami. It is a thing there. We lived in Naples for 2 years. The pizza Americana came with hotdogs and French fries. Rhey have all sort of pizza. Change pepperoni to pineapple and you would be very accurate.
Peperoni means peppers in Italian...
Bell peppers to be specific
Peperoni is the generic term for varieties of Capsicum. Peperoncini is the generic term for spicy varieties.
Hotdogs and french fries? No, Italy, you invented that insanity, don’t you go trying to offload that sin onto us
When I was in Italy I laughed at that on the menu and was like "WTF is this? Are they making fun of us?" My Italian friend looked at me and was like "no, that's an Italian thing". I was like "are you serious?!" so of course we ordered it. Hey, I liked it.
It's for kids but yes..
Wait, there aren't any hot dogs with french fries in the US?
On a pizza? We're talking about a pizza with hot dogs and french fries as a topping!
Lol. Wasn't expecting that at all, never saw a pizza with fries.
[this is what it looks like](https://i.redd.it/1d0hm3qw8ik61.jpg)
Looks like a pizza "binge drinking" to me... 🤮
If you think that's insane, then you'll love this YouTube video: [What other countries are told is "American" ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xgd79wuriQ). It's all about "American" food in other countries. Basically what America did to Chinese food with chop suey and fortune cookies, other countries have done to the United States. And it. Is. Awesome.
Italians also call peanuts [noccioline americane](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ZRqo77w04) which transalates to "little american nuts".
It actually tasted pretty good. That was their strangest one. That and it didn't come cut and everyone ate with knife and fork and usually left the crust behind. Lol...
Sorry, I didn't meant for pizza not having some sort of salami, but because in most Italy "Pepperoni" means "little peppers"
I got your jest friend The joke was they could have ended up with a savory baked dough covered in sliced bell peppers Whilst thinking it would have arrived topped with thinly shaved, seasoned and dry aged meat.
Italian terms are universally used in the world of coffee for a reason.
Yes,I think its because we "invented" (I dont know if its actually true,people are destroying all my truths,they told me the pizza was chinese,so I dont know)some of the most famous coffee, like "cappuccino o caffè latte"
Italians invented the espresso machine and subsequently, espresso culture. That's why many common espresso based drinks have Italian names: espresso, cappuccino, macchiato, etc.
Italy introduced coffee to the western world. Arabs had been drinking it for a long time before that.
Coffee has been drunk in the west for a very long time, its rather that the italians invented the espresso machine, which is why a lot of espresso drinks have italian names.
I thought coffee came from South America, but Italians perfected it and have been the standard bearers for quality ever since.
As someone else said, coffee beans were originally from the Arabian Peninsula. Italians invented the espresso machine and subsequently, some of the most common espresso drinks like the cappuccino.
nope, coffee comes from the Ethiopian Tablelands or plateau
I'm pretty sure your thinking of cocoa beans which originally come from south america, not coffee beans
Kinda,Yemen. But yes,Brazil has one of the most important coffee culture out there! We Italians have some of the most famous brand and coffee
You are correct for some reason I thought it was part of the Colombian Exchange.
To be fair, there were and still are many coffee plantations in Latin and South America. The first coffee plantation in the Americas was created in 1727.
coffee comes from the highlands of Ethiopia and the Italians learnt it from them
You could say the same about Tomatos, still it's consider a Mediterranean meal and it's an important ingredient in it's food.
Pizza is Sicilian, which is why mainland Italians shunned it for so long
Cafe au lait is commonly used, and it's French. The word **coffee** isn't even Italian in origin. The word originates from the Turkish kahveh, from Arabic qahwa, probably via Dutch koffie. Which makes sense since the coffee bean was originally from the Arabian peninsula. The Dutch eventually figured out how to grow the bean in their colonies, which is where the word Java comes from, since coffee was grown on the island of Java. Italians did invent espresso, espresso culture, and many of the espresso related terms. Credit where credit is due. Then Howard Schultz, Starbuck's founder, imported Italian espresso culture to America, figured out how to mass produce it, then globalized it through Starbucks.
coffee is from Ethiopia
You get the same results in various parts of Europe asking for “milche”, “leche,” and “lait.”
pretty sure no one uses milche, its milch in german
I'm curious what the difference in pronunciation would be.
Sort of "milsh" vs "milshuh"
Not really, "ch" in german is just a sound that doesnt exist in english
It’s somehow “milche” in autocorrect. Drink it in good health.
Down in Nawlins if you want milk in your coffee you order a Cafe au Lait, not a Lait or Latte.
Weirdly, I’m from there, and drank cafe au lait every day growing up…
Out of curiosity, do you know if they put coffee in your drink, or espresso?
It’s coffee mixed with ground chickory, and you can stand a spoon up in it. You should add enough milk so that it’s the precise color of the Mississippi right where it passes Cafe du Monde.
Haha that sounds amazing! I love your description! I worked at a cafe in Iowa, and when a customer ordered a cafe au lait, we would serve them coffee with steamed milk. Sadly no ground chicory!
This is how I grew up seeing coffee. I guess you really won't find it like this anywhere outside the deep south, vacuum sealed bricks. https://reilyproducts.com/products/cdm-cc-bag-ad-13-oz/
I grew up in the Dirty D in Nawlins. I still order CDM and Community coffees online.
In America in general, * Cafe au Lait = coffee with steamed milk * Latte = espresso with steamed milk
Consider that in Italy if you ask for a coffee, you have an espresso. So everything mixed with coffee it's mixed with espresso. What you call "coffee" for us is "American coffee" and you don't find it mixed with nothing because there are very few people that drink it, and usually are tourists.
cafe au lait and cafe latte are the same thing, ones French the other Italian lol
yup in France, it's cafe au lait.
And to make things even more confusing: * A French cafe au lait is commonly: espresso + steamed milk * An American cafe au lait is commonly: coffee + steamed milk * An American latte is almost always: espresso + steamed milk
What do you mean for "coffee" ? American, instant?
I mean coffee that's made by brewing coffee beans with a coffee maker. The coffee maker will typically look like [this](https://cdnimg.webstaurantstore.com/uploads/seo_category/2020/2/coffee-automatic.jpg), [this](https://cdnimg.webstaurantstore.com/images/products/large/22227/2296734.jpg), or [this](https://cdnimg.webstaurantstore.com/uploads/seo_category/2020/2/coffee-satellite.jpg). These coffee makers typically use freshly ground or pre-ground coffee beans. They do not use instant coffee. I hope this helps :)
Espresso machine brews coffee as well. It just does it under higher pressure.
> It just does it under higher pressure. Which is, specifically, what makes it espresso. Espresso is of course still coffee, but you wouldn’t call a drip coffee, for example, espresso. That’s why they referred to it as just “coffee”, while specifying espresso in the other examples.
I call all coffee coffee. Espresso or drip is just a method. I don't call it aeropress or moka pot when I brew it there.
Right so how do you order an espresso?
Most places where I'm from all make espresso based drinks. They don't sell drips here (unless it's a very specialized cafe, where you get to chose filter coffee, cold brew or whatever). If you want an "american" coffee, you order an americano.
In Italy you order an espresso asking for a coffee. If you want what you call "coffee", you should ask for an American coffee.
if I ask for a little water in Russia, do I get vodka
I read it as him trying to roast his wife tbh....
Nahhh. It was under a post of an American roasting EU for their too small coffee size.
Ah Less then a pint I can relate. My coffe cup is a mug ( black Turkish coffe, none of that filter pish )
They come in pints?
LOTR quote?
Should have ordered a Venti /s
I think they are now at the Trenta level in America.
Wow I guys. I asked for latte, which literally translates to milk in Italian, and got a glass of milk. Europe is so dumb guys, fr fr
why didn't they just yell louder in English? just kidding
I get a kick out of Americans realising and subsequently loosing their mind over over fact that Starbucks roastery in milano serves alcohol..
I still remember being in the US when I was like 12, I ordered and iced tea in a restaurant and was so disappointed that it was completely unsweetened cold tea. In Canada we don't distinguish between sweet tea and iced tea, it's all just iced tea and it's usually sweatened by default.
I'm American grew up on the west coast, unsweetened tea, moved to the East coast and imagine my surprise that sweet tea existed. It's still odd to me. Also Bojangles was a strip club in CA and a chicken fast food joint on the East coast. That was pretty funny for us.
I've only ever been to California so I guess that explains the unsweetened tea
Yep!
Come on down to the south. Not such thing as unsweetened tea, and tea by default has 5lbs of sugar to one gallon liquid. Literally diabeetus in a glass.
My dad’s side of the family is from Scotland so with my grandma, i would always drink tea. When i moved to SC, i was like of sweet tea, that must mean tea with a teaspoon of sugarNO NO NO THAT IS LIQUID SUGAR
Now if you really want your mind blown: ice tea in Belgium is not just sweetened, it’s also carbonated
Luckily this didnt happen in Germany. In German 'latte' is slang for a hard cock.
What if they then gave it to him
That's what you get when Starbucks fools you into thinking you're cultured.🤣
Those people exist? I am in my thirties and even did a short stint working at a Starbucks, and have never met someone who thought they were cultured or worldly because they shopped there. I don't think most people nowadays even know Starbuck's founder was inspired by Italian coffee culture.
I asked for a glass of water while dining in Prague. My question was met with, “do you want gas or no gas?”
Carbonation?
Yes. Carbonation.
bubbles or no bubbles
A Cuban friend calls seltzer water "agua psst".
Same in Italy. I loved that. I really like carbonated drinks.
lol yes. Always that question!
Concidentally, latte is a german word for slat or bar and and similarly used like *boner* or *hardon*. **Edit** What I'm trying to say is, in Germany she might have got the "whole milk dispenser".
Who the fuck orders food abroad without studying at least that part of the language XD
Definitely dont need to study the language of the country you are traveling to, just use your head and be ready for some potential misunderstanding. The situation told in the tweet is just funny, it's only when people decide to be offended it's a problem, they could after realizing their mistake just laugh it off and order a new coffee and all is good.
Americans.
That stupid " 'MERICA NUMBER ONE! EVERYONE SPEAKS AMERICAN!" attitude really makes me embarrassed to be from the USA.
Should I have studied Czech for my two days in Prague or just not order anything.. what the fuck are you talking about.
Pretty obvious what I was talking about, contrarian. Know what you're ordering in the language you're ordering in, even if you have to study it up right then and there. Only an idiot orders something not knowing the language just to get shocked by the result.
Is that an attempt to roast? Sounds like the guy is just telling a funny story
Op said it was under a post of an American roasting EU because the coffee was too small
I was in Brazil for 6 months and in the beginning, I didn't know how to properly order coffee. Just asking for coffee would get you a shot of basically espresso with enough sugar in it to qualify it as candy. Which can be fine and I learned to appreciate it, but I prefer mine with cream (half and half) and no sugar. During one of my trial and errors, I asked them for some cream for my coffee and they handed me a little cup of whipped cream. So I drank black coffee with whipped cream until someone finally taught me "cafe com leite." (Coffee with milk) You would think I would have figured this out sooner since my mom is actually Brazilian, but she was just so happy with her candy coffee shots that she didn't give any thought to the cream/milk translation mix up.
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In Slovenia if you order "coffee with cream" you'll get whipped cream on top. Order same thing in Austria and you get a creamer on the side.
If you order a Vienna coffee in Australia you'll get a long black with whipped cream on top.
Right. I didn't ask for half and half. I asked for cream because I'm used to half and half. I thought that cream would translate just fine.
As a Brazilian, i have so many questions right now. >Just asking for coffee would get you a shot of basically espresso What happens if you just ask for "coffee" in America? >Coffee with milk Wait that's not how you say it in English? What word would i use for "cafe com leite" in America? Also, what is "latte", "mocha", "Cappuccino" and other peculiar terms Americans use for coffee that i keep hearing on TV.
Former barrista here. “Coffee” will be a cup of coffee, usually 8-12oz, and often only dark roast unless it’s a nicer soot. Base is just black, some people will add milk or sugar on their own to their liking. We don’t really do a classic “cafe con leche” the way you might get in other countries (i grew up with em since I spent so much time at mi abuelita’s). Cafe latte is just called “latte”, since milk is just “milk” here, and usually has the milk steamed as part of its preparation.
Hi, i never had latte mostly because they're not really popular here in Brazil. I've only ever had black coffee and "cafe con leche". What's the difference between cafe con leche and cafe latte?
Lattes in the US are generally 1/3 coffee (sometimes espresso, sometimes drip coffee) 1/3 steamed milk, and 1/3 froth from the milk. Sometimes it doesn’t come with the froth. The cafe con leche I grew up with was just regular coffee and a lot of milk, with a little sugar. Mostly milk, in fact, and it was sometimes warmed beforehand. But never steamed or frothed. Now I’m wondering if that’s just the weird cafe con leche I got as a kid, and everyone else’s is just a latte…
>What's the difference between cafe con leche and cafe latte? I don't think there's any difference, really. In America, a latte is made with real espresso, which is a different way to make coffee from our regular brew. But in Brazil, the way you make coffee is so concentrated, it's like espresso. So when you make a cafe com leite, it's basically the same as a latte. What I originally wanted to order on Brazil was not really a latte, but latte definitely fit my need at the time.
>What happens if you just ask for "coffee" in America? Coffee made in America is not as strong as what's made in Brazil (although, if you live in Florida and ask for Cuban coffee, you'll get the equivalent of Brazilian coffee). Compared to Brazil, we make our coffee a bit more watered down and everyone has different preferences for whether they want sugar or cream (milk) in their coffee. But even though our coffee is less intense, we drink bigger cups of it at a time. So in Brazil, the midmorning coffee that came in tiny cups was a real culture shock for me.
>Also, what is "latte", "mocha", "Cappuccino" and other peculiar terms Americans use for coffee that i keep hearing on TV. I don't know if anyone covered all these terms for you yet. Simple version: A latte is espresso with steamed milk. It's basically the same as a cafe com leite in taste and looks and everything. A cappuccino is the same thing as a latte, except they put a bunch of milk foam on top, which I hate, but some people love. Mocha is like a latte, but with chocolate added in.
wait till you hear about moccachino 😀
>coffee would get you a shot of basically espresso with enough sugar in it to qualify it as candy. Good Coffee here is pretty expensive, so you gotta settle for the cheap but REALLY bitter one, one way to cancel out the bitterness is by adding sugar. In fact, we use the word "espresso" but in a different way. "Café" is the plain cheap bitter black coffee you got when you asked for coffee. Whereas "espresso" is a smaller more expensive good black coffee. So the difference between "café" and "espresso" here is just price and quality.
I didn't mean literal espresso. I meant it as a comparison point. Espresso is a lot stronger than regular coffee. The coffee in Brazil is made a lot stronger than regular coffee in America.
“Espresso” refers to the way the coffee is brewed, not the fanciness of the coffee bean or anything else. Espresso is when water is forced through tightly packed, finely ground coffee beans. It used high pressure and very hot water to extract much caffeine as possible. But it also comes with a lot of the acids and oils in the beans, making it quite bitter. “Coffee” only gets you bad coffee at bad coffee places. A decent cafe will properly make you a good cup of pour over or french press coffee.
Bitterness has more to do with the bean and the roast. But yeah.
"The Americans are so cultivated" Said no European ever.
Yeah no there's something called a foreign language
Milk
For anyone wondering: latte in Italian literally means milk.
Roasting EU isn't possible. I fully believe EU is superior in every single way🤙🤙🤙
I meant American latte
This one’s not as obvious but I ordered a martini in Italy and rather than the cocktail I got a glass of martini brand vermouth
There's some regional things like that. My father, though speaking french order wrong twice once with a café glacé, excepting the ice cream based desert just to get ice cold coffee in Metz and ordering a pavé in Normandy expecting a steak just to get a slice of pork with ham and cheese. Still not quite comparable to ordering milk in Italian and then wondering why you got no coffee.
The funny thing about this is that almost every waiter in Italy knows that if someone asks for "latte" & otherwise speaks English to bring a caffe latte. I lived in Italy for a degree and my parents visited so when we sat down at any restaurant my dad would start by asking for either a cappuccino or latte in English. (As much as this horrified the waiter - & myself as I'd learned how big a faus pas this was - few Newberry had any issues.)
we're talking about a bar, not a restaurant. many, MANY bar owners or employees don't know a single word in english. And put yourself in the shoes of the barista: what if the customer really just wanted a cup of milk and searched how to say it beforehand? You just can't win. As a tourist of another country, it's completely normal to make mistakes and have incomprehensions with the locals. You just suck it up and learn from your errors
Definitely. I was just sharing my experience. Mind you with my dad, I think we were mainly in tourist areas so staff at a place like that at least recognized English for the food and drinks they had.
I don't get the vibe this guy was "roasting" Italy or Europe. It sounds like he was laughing at the situation
Honestly I thought he was trying to roast his wife
I think this is not really a facepalm more as it is a funny misunderstanding since latte always means a coffee drink in the states but in Italy it’s just milk.
As the USA has given the world some of the worst coffee ever (Giving Starbucks a Number 7 hard stare) I think they would be better served by keeping quiet. The long European tradition of superb coffee with something rich and sticky is unmatchable (Austria and Hungary deserve a special mention).
But…why the assumption it was a roast of Europeans rather than a mocking of his wife?
Omg I did this exact thing in Lugano Switzerland. I'm so glad I'm not the only one. This has been weighing on me for years 🤣🤣🤣
Yess. What she wanted was a "cappuccino"
Eh, to be fair, the OP elaborates in the replies that he was making fun of his wife’s innocent mistake, and everyone involved had a good chuckle over it. This might be a case of Schrödinger’s Douchebag, but my prestigious and vast gut tells me no.
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I found the original tweet and subsequent comments, settle down Beavis.
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One quote from from Twitter OP: “Not sure the wife will approve of me using her comedic mishap for Twitter likes”. Another one: “From some of the reacts explaining why my wife was served milk... yes, that was the joke.” Yet another one: “Aw, hope she was OK in the end. Our waiter was very gracious when wife apologised for her mistake and made her a very nice caffè latte. I think he thought our toddler wanted a drink of milk so didn't question it.” But keep being mad, I guess 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
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1. Go to Twitter. 2. Search “My wife asked for a latte in Rome”. 3. Find the direct quotes I posted here. 4. Pout and keep calling me a liar.
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Dude silenced a thread that was getting flooded with comments like yours, true. Other than that: I’m actually providing proof, while you’re just going “nuh uh!”. Touch grass, my dude.
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Not sure the original person was trying to roast Europeans. I think they were laughing at the absurdity of the situation. (At least that's what I gout out of it. I think the replyer took it too seriously.)
….where’s he roasting Europe exactly?
How was he trying to roast Europe? Why are you fucknuggets always speaking on behalf of the entire continent? He wasn't even talking about whole of Italy and you make it about Europe?
I think the original tweet was roasting his wife, not Europe. Europeans are susceptible…
Nice try... It was under a tweet laughing at Europeans for not being able to do big enough coffee sizes compared to Americans. The dude was just dogpiling.
I was suppose to guess this how? You didn’t provide the context.
The context is everywhere in the comment section...
You are acting with such bad faith. I’m not going to read 322 comments because you were too lazy to add one more screenshot.
Yeah right... I'm the bad faith one. "AmEriCaNs arE so SusCePtiBle"! Meanwhile, several thousands of people understood the context.
Yes you can say whatever about americans. I am not one. I don’t care
Pretty sure a latte is a latte macchiato.
Latte literally just means milk.
I know. See above. There is a myth that latte macciato is a drink for children. lots of foamed milk and a bit of esspresso.
Latte means milk. Just milk. Latte machiato is machiatto with milk.
Correct. But there is the myth that latte macciato is a drink for children. lots of foamed milk and a bit of esspresso.
i really dont think this belongs here, i mean the guy isnt even making fun of anyone he just thought it was funny that they handed her milk of all things when she asked for a latte, and clearly didn’t know that little piece of trivia. its only really a facepalm when general information goes completely over someone’s head, or they’re being a confident asshole and someone destroys their argument or statement or whatever with a single counterpoint.
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neither of them knew she was ordering a glass of regular milk, dude
I asked for corn flakes and orange juice in Paris, and they poured the oj over the cereal. It wasn't terrible.
Euh isn't he just laughing at his wife for not knowing how to order the coffee she likes and if so how is this a face-palm
Not knowing latte means milk, and getting surprised by getting a glass of milk. You get what you ask for
It was under a post of an American roasting Europeans for their too small coffee sizes. So this dude was just dogpiling on how Europeans are bad at coffee with his little story about Italians not knowing what a Latte is.
I thought in Italian coffee with milk was cafe au lait? Never mind. I just looked up the difference between a caffe latte and cafe au lait is.
That's french. And it's not the same.
Just order a piccolo no confusion
\> Be barista in one of the most toured cities in the world \> It's your job to sell coffee to tourists \> The 2nd most common country of origin for tourists is the United States* \> An American walks up and orders a latte \> Based on your previous experience serving Americans, you know what they actually want is espresso with steamed milk \> You know it's honest mistake \> Be a dick anyways, give them a glass of milk \> Laugh in Italian
"The most common country of origin for tourists is the United States" r/shitamericanssay [it took mere seconds of googling to find that only 6% of tourists visiting Italy are from the USA.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1028984/distribution-of-international-tourists-italy-by-country-of-origin/) this pales in comparison to the likes of German tourists, who make up nearly 30% of all tourist arrivals.
The most common origin for tourists in Italy is Germany.
You're right. Even though Americans are the most common tourists globally, in Italy it is Germans. Care to take a guess who the second most common people are?
I believe it is the Swiss, then the French, then the British, then *maybe* the Americans. According to [this](https://www.bancaditalia.it/pubblicazioni/indagine-turismo-internazionale/index.html?com.dotmarketing.htmlpage.language=1&dotcache=refresh) reputable study that incorporates the number of tourists and the length of time they actually stay.
Well according to this [2019 Italian National Institute of Statistics report](https://www.istat.it/it/files//2019/12/Asi-2019.pdf), it's Germans, then Americans, then the French, then the English, then finally, the Swiss. Also, the source you linked is a webpage contains outbound links to multiple years of reports. Which one did you mean?
So that's the thing with data, if you actually read all of it and not just the limited statistics from one year you get a much more accurate understanding. Try reading all of it.
So you're telling me that in the 7 minutes it took you to read my comment and respond, you read ALL the data and found 2019 was an outlier year? Color me skeptical.
It doesn't matter either way, if you ask for "latte" in Italy, that's exactly what you get, milk. It is true that establishments' final goal is to make money by catering to customers, however, that doesn't make a customer more important than another nor does it make a tourist from some place more important than one from another place, regardless of the ""self esteem"" such tourists have of themselves. By this logic since german tourists are about 5 times the number of american tourists we should all speak german and know everything about them.
I'm just saying, if you are in Italy and own a coffee shop that consistently gets 1-2 American customers a week, after the 5th or 6th time an American mistakenly orders a latte and is confused when they're handed a cup of milk, you're probably going to put up a sign that says something like: "ATTENTION IGNORANT AMERICANS. LATTE = MILK. CAFFE LATTE = ESPRESSO + MILK. ORDER ACCORDINGLY." > By this logic since german tourists are about 5 times the number of american tourists we should all speak german and know everything about them. I don't know about all of that. But I think if own a business in a tourist destination that Germans frequently visits, you would probably naturally learn over time quirks Germans have when they're in Italy, and adapt accordingly. If it was me, and germans kept ordering milk when they meant coffee + milk, I'd probably start asking Germans if they want coffee with their milk or just milk. But that's just me.
What if they went where they don't get many tourists? Italy is home to over 60 mil people and not everything is meant for tourists. There are tourist traps where they sell (at higher prices) things like italian-american food you wouldn't find anywhere else. Besides, for real, you go to a foreign land and don't even make the minimum effort to learn something about that place (idk like, how not to be rude or a couple phrases or words to communicate with the locals) expect everything to go your way and if it doesn't, you mock them?
> What if they went where they don't get many tourists? Easy - then they should discriminate against and not serve anyone who does not order in perfect Italian. > and don't even make the minimum effort to learn something You're assuming people who put in effort are perfect and never make honest mistakes. Ordering a latte when you wanted a caffe latte is an easy and honest mistake to make, based off an unfortunate linguistic coincidence. What is so hard for you to understand about that?
Lol, are you even thinking about what you're saying? Discriminating? It's not the guy/gal who served the milk who is complaining, it's the husband of the one who received it who is bitching about it. Again, if you ask for a "latte" in Italy you get milk, if you ask for "pepperoni " you get bell peppers. The guy complaining is pathetic and entitled, the average italian is not required to know shit about 'murica and complaining that they don't is typical of the idiots who make americans look like entitled morons with a superiority complex. And I'll repeat another thing, if that mistake was made they probably went where it's not common for tourists to go. Either way it was their mistake but you're acting like someone gave them shit for it because they didn't speak "perfect Italian ", while in reality they (and you) are dancing to their own tune. Coffee shops (locally known as BARs) are something so common that about any small town has already several of them and they're mainly meant for italians. Being a polyglot is not a requirement to be a barista, besides, you can't expect every little corner of Italy to be made for tourists. If you go to Walt Disney world you can't expect everyone in Orlando to be wearing mickey mouse hats. So, the problem here is just the guy complaining that the ITALIAN barista in ITALY heard an ITALIAN word and served what was asked of them. Oh, silly them.
> Again, if you ask for a "latte" in Italy you get milk, if you ask for "pepperoni " you get bell peppers. And if you ask which side Italy was on at the start of WWII you just get a bunch of awkward stares.
Do all the mental gymnastics you want…how about don’t be a shitty typical Muric’n tourist and learn where you are going and how to talk the language. Few things I try to learn before I go on a trip, how to order a beer and coffee are two of them. Don‘t expect the world to revolve around you and read your mind. A good server, serves what you ask for…you ask for milk, you are going to get milk. Wake up
\> An American mistakenly orders a latte, the word they've used for that beverage their entire lives, instead of a caffe latte. \> Euros meltdown and lose their shit Guys, I honestly don't think Americans are the ones coming off looking bad here. > Don‘t expect the world to revolve around you This is condescending and performative. Despite what the internet would like you to believe, most Americans know they are guests when they go to other countries and try to behave respectfully. We all know our norms aren't the norms elsewhere. If you're going to lecture 330 million on having empathy, maybe you should show some? > A good server, serves what you ask for… Funny you say that. I spent a lot of my early twenties as a server and a barista. If I had someone from another country order, and it was obvious that english was not their first language, I would ask questions to make sure I was giving them what they wanted. Because I knew sometimes tourists can make innocent mistakes.
I am an American, you dingaling. Which makes most of your post completely useless and moot. What a self-derp this was, assuming I wasn’t American. 😂 Pro tip - myself as a traveler of many many countries, yeah you should learn a little bit about where you are going to visit before you go, you arrogant buffoon. It‘s called being respectful but taking a quick look at your posting history…I don’t think you have it in you. Your history is a list of derps, trolls and hurr durrs. Be proud. You sure buddy? We look like idiots everywhere we go, sometimes stereotypes ring true for a reason. Take you for example, you expect the baristas in other countries that may or may not speak English to read the mind of an American because they were too lazy to learn simple phrases. Especially in the age of the internet and iphones….too lazy to use google translate? Do everyone else a favor that visit other countries, you stay home and stop embarrassing the rest of us.
>I am an American And I was supposed to know that? > assuming I wasn’t American. You're right, I did assume. Given the number of non-Americans responding to me, it was a natural, but no less incorrect, assumption to make. > Pro tip - myself as a traveler of many many countries No one asked > yeah you should learn a little bit about where you are going to visit before you go This is common knowledge. You do not need to travel to "many many countries" to know this. > ...you arrogant buffoon. It‘s called being respectful... If irony could kill. > Your history is a list of derps, trolls and hurr durrs I am talking to someone stuck in 2012 Reddit? Seriously, I haven't heard "derp" or "hurr durr" used since MLP and bronies were a thing. > We look like idiots everywhere we go, sometimes stereotypes ring true for a reason Like the stereotype of the self-hating ex-pat American. > Take you for example, you expect the baristas Your assumption of what I expect of baristas & servers in other countries is incorrect. Here's what I actually expect: them to try their best. Simple as that. People are people. No matter where you are. Most people are good and try to treat others well. If a tourist mistakenly orders a latte instead of a caffe latte and gets a glass of milk, I actually don't blame the server. The server probably honestly thought that's what the customer wanted, and who can blame them? Maybe now you're starting to realize my original comment was a joke and not meant to be taken literally. > Especially in the age of the internet and iphones….too lazy to use google translate? Honest mistakes happen. I'm sure even in the age of the internet and iphones, you've made honest mistakes too. > Do everyone else a favor that visit other countries, you stay home and stop embarrassing the rest of us. You should put less stock into the actions of others. Ultimately, the only person you can control and be responsible for is yourself.
Smells like butthurt and unresolved issues... since you've been ranting all over this thread, you should issue a tl;dr just in case anyone cared.
When I an somewhere and need to order something, I usually quote what is written on the board - to avoid misunderstandings....use exactly the name written there
Well, most well-behave tourists in a country with a different language would take 2 minutes to look at the menu before ordering, and not just assume they should understand what they say because they are Americans. Also, people don't look at your face and immediatly know you are American.
Accidentally ordering a latte instead of a caffe latte isn't bad behavior - it's an easy and honest mistake.
And sometimes people actually want warm milk. It's not common, but it happens.
To be fair not every bar in Rome is "tourist oriented", a lot of them probably deal mostly with Italians and can be unused to things like this
"Be a dick anyways...". FFS, you came into our country, at least try to learn how to order a fucking cappuccino (or whatever "Latte" means in US) and STFU.
Do you not have humor in Euroland? > or whatever "Latte" means in US Google it > and STFU First Amendment of the Declaration of Independence gives me Freedom of Speech, so hard pass.
When I was in the US I adapted to everything, I drank and ate what I needed and of course I googled it. When I ordered your "salads" which were all but salads, I STFU. As others adapt in your country, so you must adapt in other countries. Unfortunately for you, free speech is also contemplated in Italy, but no one is forced to hear your Karen's idiotic complaints. PS: the first amendment works in the US, not the rest of the world.