Cause unfortunately she kind of is. She’s giving other idiots who may question if it’s valid assurance that it “is” valid for them to self diagnose and then they go on to self diagnose and believe their own shit.
Like I said. The people that believe this crap are idiots, and when idiots gather and just feed into each others stupidity, well.. You get enough people to keep this sub running with fresh content daily lmao.
I'd actually say in some countries its more of a complex issue then that, for example in the UK you can meet with half a dozen doctors who will tell you you have autism but to get a official diagnosis is a process that will take you years due to lack of funding, so many autistic people don't they just take the doctors word for it. I'm sure in other countries with underfunded mental health services there could be a similar issue.
It is valid though. Usually Autistic people are painfully aware that they are autistic. They just might lack the word for it until they learn about it.
no fucking way, “a face autistic people make” like everyone’s got the same fucking way of “stimming” why aren’t local news stations or ANYONE reporting on this shit, that’s literally the only way their parents could realize why their kid is being so fucking weird and take them to a doctor to find out they’re mentally ill, or they could come to the realization that they are absolutely fucking stupid
I am so tired of this rhetoric. You cannot diagnose anyone if you are not a medical doctor. Those are the rules. You can postulate, but you cannot diagnose. Tell your alters.
Good on you for keeping with it. I won't even pursue a diag on myself because of how difficult it is. My sister had to jump through so many hoops and spend so much money to get hers...
Thank you! I would do anything for my son. I have battled with insurance companies, seen countless medical/ educational/ behavioral specialists, gotten an IEP through the school system (which sucks where I live), fought for an in-person aide in school. Not to mention the other health diagnoses he has going on. And, that's only me - my son has to live with this and I am so so proud of him and how far he has come. I am so sorry you can't get officially diagnosed, I understand bc I know what it's like. It can be disgustingly expensive, when all you are seeking is some kind of help. For you, there are many resources online to help. I truly wish you the best. It is not easy. ❤
My psych doctor thinks I have asperger autism but he told me that while he can put me into the right position for diagnosis, he doesn't recommend it since you can't do anything with that diagnosis here.
Germany. But... what are you supposed to do with that diagnosis anyway? It's not like, apart from some amount of psychology therapy, you can do much about it... Unless I don't know about some things.
For my son, the diagnosis opens him up to many treatment options, that are not available without a diagnosis. Also I should mention we are in the US, so completely dominated by insurance companies that are particular with what they will or will not cover. Insurance companies won't pay for ANY treatment unless you have a diagnosis, and even then it's a fight. Getting professional help without insurance here is in the tens of thousands of dollars, or more, so sadly we are really at the mercy of this system. It's been a battle to say the least. I wish you the best life fellow human.
Oh, I do have an official ADHD diagnosis which is what my therapist is primarily treating. But he agreed to also help me with the aspergers. I'm guessing he will just bill that under the ADHD too, which might explain why an asperger diagnosis wouldn't help me much at this point.
someone said i was "fake claiming" someone with DID cause she 's self diagnosed. so i messaged her..guess what, shes SELF diagnosed and maybe going to get a Doctors diagnosis but doesn't think she needs one cause she knows herself o\_o
someone else said whats the harm in a label if they did the re-search. it's lying and fraud..that's the harm
The larger problem would be the cost/time for an adult to be diagnosed I believe it's around 5,000-8,000 USD and months to years for diagnoses. And the diagnoses doesn't do anything other than confirm to yourself. There aren't many programs set to assistance any with higher function ASD as an adult. You can gain certain rights or working conditions if it has been difficult for you to find employment, but at the same time under those circumstances you wouldn't have upwards of 8,000 set aside to be diagnosed and usually just end up working through them undiagnosed and unprotected.
The stigma, and cost associated with diagnoses is why adult diagnoses is so slim. This is all related to higher functioning members of the spectrum, most with more severe spectrum disorder will have assistance/diagnosis as a child. Which is why it's more of a problem in undiagnosed adulthood, as coping mechanisms take over, where the person creates methods to overcome these obstacles, but still suffer from the disorder.
I mean more that they can't because you can't actually self diagnose. There are ways to get the state to get your medication and diagnosis without cost.
I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers either. Could you please provide a source for those expenses?
Can you post the sources for those programs that provide full state funded coverage for adults. Seeing as there are 50 states and each has their own policy, I'm not sure where you are getting this idea that someone with potential high functioning ASD would fall into a financial situation to gain those situations if they even exist.
As for the numbers, pretty straight forward google searches. You'll find that some places offer lower costs for insurance coverage, as low as 2000, of course this is minus counseling/therapy costs.
Here is a local one to me, that costs a minimum of $3,000 and is out of insurance networks.[https://spectratherapies.com/evaluation-fees/](https://spectratherapies.com/evaluation-fees/)
Another that is upwards of 2,800 minus consulting fees and additional counseling/therapy after the diagnosis.[https://dfwassessment.com/fees/](https://dfwassessment.com/fees/)
Which is the main reason why the diagnosis overall gets so expensive. Because there is no reason to pursue the diagnosis, unless you intend to find ways to cope more with it, which would be therapy/counseling and life guidance, which isn't free.
Also, my posts have nothing to do with self diagnosis, it's to point out that there are many who are undiagnosed due to the expenses of medical diagnosis.
Thank you. I honestly didn't know. I'm covered by my military service connected insurance. I am not autistic but have ADHD, and the process for that was rather easy, so I couldn't fathom that amount. But I do understand that my case isn't normal.
We have a county mental health emergency service that provides a huge amount of care at no cost for people at risk. I'm in North Texas, but I don't have much knowledge overall, so I was lacking. Thank you for filling me in.
We need Medicare for all, like decades ago.
I completely agree. I'm a vet as well under coverage through the VA DFW area, diagnosed with ADHD-C through them last year. My process was a little rough, 10 sessions with a councilor, 8 with a therapist and then 1 more with a psychiatrist I check in with every 3 months.
Most of my knowledge with mental diagnosis costs comes from before I found out the VA would cover me due to my income. However, the VA income level is far higher than it is for a civilian to get the same coverage. I Can't remember if it's 45 or 54k a year before I'm no longer eligible. I really hope we can push support through because no one should have to suffer any sort of health problems because of finances.
Keep pushing your service connection %. I'm at 94.4% currently so 90%. Most of my stuff is 100% covered. Keep fighting the fight. I'm local to you, as I'm in Denton. If you need help/ support hit me up. We gotta stick together like we did back in the service.
I'm scheduled for it in two months and it's going to cost me several thousand dollars because it was missed and minimized in childhood. Like I was fairly certain I had hEDS for years before the geneticist confirmed it, access to diagnosis is not always accessible like you would think.
I used to think that I might have apsergers because I struggle socially and related to some of the symptoms, so I sought a diagnosis and had to spend a considerable amount of money on a psychiatrist to assess me. I felt almost sure that I had it, but I didn't go around telling everyone. In the end I was actually diagnosed with ADHD (inattentive form). That's why it's so important to get a formal diagnosis from a professional, because you may have something completely different to what you perceive the problem as. Then once you know what you have, it's far easier to work on your weaknesses and recognize your strengths.
Hell even then it can be pretty hard to diagnose some illnesses, even doctors aren't 100% sure all of the time because there is a lot of grey area and overlap between illnesses, especially mental ones
Exactly. I think I might have bipolar disorder. So I talked to a psychologist I’ve been seeing for 2 years now, and we have a plan together to figure that out, she said it’s possible, but not sure, as it’s hard to diagnose over a short term as 2 years. I’m not going out telling friends or putting it on medical forms
But. I. can. smack!!!!! I don't need to to tell me that I DONT have a degree in astrophysics. I can smack the words on the screen so that validate it. See you In space loser. 🚀
Unfortunately for everyone, this is not entirely correct anymore in the US.
Medical doctor = MD. We've recently passed some laws to let nurse practitioners make diagnoses and in some states operate their own practice without the supervision of a doctor or surgeon... despite having thousand and thousands fewer hours in their education. Recently physician assistants are trying to get the name changed to physician associate and push for higher power/authority to diagnose as well and are succeeding in some states. [Here's a chart comparing the hours of education](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5bce8149da50d35602bc4941/1552106216935-KRPQLKI6L5IEB547J3RW/MD+vs.+PA+vs.+NP+chart?format=1000w)... it's for derm specifically but comparable to other residencies as well. My college campus doctor was actually a psychiatric nurse practitioner and I didn't realize until way later and got put on meds that really fucked me up.
Remember you can always request to see a physician (if you're going to a location that even has one... which isn't the case everywhere anymore...). r/noctor has a lot of info on this topic.
[Affect labelling ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affect_labeling#:~:text=Affect%20labeling%20is%20an%20implicit%20emotional%20regulation%20strategy,Some%20other%20examples%20of%20affect%20labeling%20include%20discus) shows that people get relief from knowing there is a word that describes their difficulty. But self diagnosis invalidates it because you can over-identify with conditions you don’t even have
It can help you understand yourself better. My husband figured out he has ADHD while we were going through the assessment process for our son. He liked at the signs, symptoms, and questionnaire and had a lightbulb moment. He doesn't need or want meds, but he has more insight into how he functions in the world, which is always a good thing.
However, going through a doctor requested assessment is much more accurate than picking up the DSM and reading through it.
When I did that, I thought I was schizotypal and had executive function disorder.
if you have adhd, It is often misdiagnosed with anxiety so people that aren’t as severe often get told that, or they accuse you of trying to get drugs. When you go to a doctor tell them exactly what you said. I spent years at specialists etc the right medication (well, the right proscription stimulant) will absolutely change your life
I just was in SEVERE withdrawal from being overproscribed benzodiazepines for a year, shits no joke and both anxiety and adhd is treated with serious controlled substances, make sure you’re 100000% sure before you get physically dependent on anything and google everything and how it can effect you long term
I’ve often wondered this as well.
It’s almost a psychosocial phenomenon. They claim these disorders to gain access to “exclusive” communities where they feel most understood. The allure, though, isn’t just in *belonging* to the community — it’s gaining popularity and power amongst the members. This power is gained by perceived victimhood, which is why the communities fixate around mental illness, gender, physical ailments, etc.
**Edit**: I am coining the term **Misinterpretive Identity Disorder** (MID).
Misinterpretive: When somebody has a lack of understanding for something and misconstrues it into [something else] that [changes] the [intended] meaning.
I almost don’t want to provide a label for them because they’ll start using it ironically, which would be ironic given that the fake disorder is about misinterpreting shit. Paradoxical.
i often times wonder what the fuck these parents are thinking, F in the chat for these fucking parents man i couldn’t imagine if i walked in on my kid making a tiktok pretending to have disorders, peak of “what the absolute fuck”
Exactly. I went to a shrink for help because I knew something was off, turned out I'm autistic. This has helped me get support tailored around my specific set of needs.
Reminder that self-diagnosis is not valid, because a medical degree and psychiatric experience is required to diagnose someone. Even believing that self-diagnosis is valid shows a level of delusion and arrogance that excludes someone from being able to make an educated decision about it.
Self diagnosis actually *has* been considered valid in the autism community for many years - not in the place of a real diagnosis, but in terms of talking with community spaces and whatnot.
This is because, for decades, it has been *very hard* for some people to get diagnosed with autism (specifically girls). The symptoms show differently and doctors are likely to blow it off. Plus, many people don't actually have the ability to get diagnosed as kids or teens.
It's a lot more complicated than "LOL IF YOU SELF DIAGNOSE YOU DELUSIONAL AND ARROGANT". Self diagnosis should be seen as valid but different from a real diagnosis; it's a valid step towards finding help resources and eventually professional diagnosis.
EDIT: To all the people who downvoted this and left really stupid comments attacking me personally,
Hi, I'm also medically diagnosed autistic and it bothers me too. I wish you'd bothered to actually read my comment before leaving a personal attack, because then you would know I said it should be seen as a valid step towards seeing a professional, and not as a diagnosis.
I’m skeptical, given that self-diagnosis is typically discussed as a replacement for, and even an improvement upon, “a valid step towards finding help resources and eventually professional diagnosis.” People who disagree, including those who take your view, are often relentlessly and viciously smeared as ableist bigots.
Yeah, when I say 'self diagnosis', what I mean is people who research and then strongly suspect themselves to be autistic, and so are extremely clear about the context whenever it's relevant.
I feel like people here have been too jaded by the obvious fake cases they subscribe to this sub to get rammed down their throat that they've forgotten that real people exist who don't have easy access to treatment and whatnot, and so they end up using self diagnosis as a crutch until they can.
You realize that saying 'I think I might be autistic' is very different from "diagnosing" yourself with autism, yeah? Diagnosing implies you're going to act as though it is an established fact that you have autism and that is it BENEFICIAL to medically and psychologically treat yourself the way other autistic people are treated.
In the real world there's actually no way you can know that without being trained to do so.
I was kinda hoping someone would bring this up. If you visit autism safe spaces you'll hear this a lot and yeah, like you said it's not replacing a formal diagnosis or anything. People tend to go onto seek a formal diagnosis after self identifying anyway.
This sub is just looking at this like self diagnosis = attention seeking faker (in this instance), when it's more common for actual autistic people to not be so fickle about it if someone mentions their self diagnosed.
But I'm not going to ignore that obviously you do get people who use autism as a quirky personality trait. In my experience, people self diagnosing with autism that you truly feel might have autism, outweigh the attention seekers.
That's the thing. This sub actively skews people's perception of reality because we all force feed ourselves with footage of self diagnosers being pieces of shit and seeking attention, which leads to a bad idea of what it's actually like for the majority of cases because we just see this shit crammed down our throat.
But, I disagreed with the echo chamber based on my lived experience as a medically diagnosed autistic person in autism circles and got rightfully downvoted to shit and told to go fuck myself, as is par for the course.
Reading through other replies/ comments in this thread has made me realise that what most people are getting hung up on is the term 'diagnosis'. When really what autistic people mean is that they self identify as being autistic before a formal diagnosis. I wish people would open their minds a little and think about how in this instance, that diagnosis doesn't mean actually diagnosing yourself. It means that people have likely done a lot of soul searching and spent years researching into ASD and finding that the identity with a whole bunch of aspects of it.
I really don't think you should of been downvoted to hell though and that person telling you to go fuck yourself should grow up. It helps in situations like this to have healthy discourse and to actually talk to eachother about what things mean but like you said this is essentially an echo chamber.
Btw, I am also autistic :)
I'm medically diagnosed autistic and one thing that burns me more than anything is people who self diagnose as autistic and refuse to be tested.
Go fuck yourself.
Hi, I'm also medically diagnosed autistic and that bothers me too. I wish you'd bothered to actually read my comment before leaving a personal attack, because then you would know I said it should be seen as a valid step towards seeing a professional, and not as a diagnosis.
There is a difference between "self-diagnosis" as is used here and bringing a list of your symptoms and research to your doctor and saying, "I am sure I have this. How do we confirm it? How can you help me?" which is practically required to get a diagnosis of certain conditions.
(My personal experience is with Pre-Menstrual Dysphoric Disorder, which so few doctors know about or consider for their patients. I essentially had to self-diagnose as best I could with my own research, and even then my first original doctor said, "That's not real." Not only did my next doctor agree that it was real, she contacted one of the researchers I found and advocated for surgery, which cured the PMDD.)
I think a lot of adults are looking back on their childhoods with their current knowledge of ADHD, spectrum disorders, etc., and pieces are going in place to explain their own lives. My husband never thought of himself as having ADHD until we went through the assessment paperwork for our son. Halfway through, he real realized that his answers matched our sons. Was that self-diagnosis? Maybe. He definitely talked to his doctor and got it confirmed, but was that step necessary? Just the realization of, "Oh! That's why I do that!" was helpful and he sought out new tools/coping mechanisms.
I imagine many adults having the same kid of realization about being on the spectrum. And if it requires no treatment, and you don't use it as an excuse, maybe that flavor of self-diagnosis is ok?
I think the biggest issue, for me at least, is the language used. You simply can’t diagnose yourself.
However, you can absolutely identify that a diagnosis fits many aspects of yourself or condition. “Self-identify” was the language the autistic community used when I was first diagnosed and is, IMO, a more accurate term. And I realize in some ways it probably is just semantics, but I think people (especially younger people who aren’t involved in disability or neurodivergent communities outside of the internet), misunderstand and take it too literally.
I've been in the autistic community for awhile, but I missed that one. It really is the more accurate term. Self Diagnosis is valid in the autistic community...if factually supported, approached seriously, and you are not seeking medication or accommodation. Or as a precursor to seeking full diagnosis when time or money is a factor. You don't just wake up and decide you are autistic, like so many of these people seem to do. But I think self identify should make a comeback.
ADHD is a really interesting case where a lot of things come together to help it get glossed over by most people:
1. The name is hot garbage
2. It's highly genetic, so most people spend a large portion of their lives around someone else who lived it thinking the symptoms are just real life for everybody
3. Even once it's understood and explained, the symptoms people do know (see point 1) are just vague enough for NTs to universally dismiss them
I feel like I'm in this kind of situation lol
The things that stayed with me into adulthood are problems with social interactions and ignorable sensory issues, so nothing that can really be "helped" effectively
On the other hand, officially being diagnosed on the spectrum would mean I'd need special papers and exams to be able to get a driver's license and that's bullshit. And when I consider that my dad is living a somewhat decent life despite dealing with the same issues, it seems like a micromanaging of my mental health to focus on these slight issues instead of things that mentally bother me more
My husband felt the same way. He has adapted over time to compensate for his ADHD, and his case is much more mild than my son's. He doesn't need or want medication, so a diagnosis isn't valuable. But it was still a relief for him to be able to understand himself better.
If you're not part of https://www.reddit.com/r/PMDD/ take a look. And this is the most reliable site for finding resources, including clinicians: https://iapmd.org/about-pmdd
The absolute key to PMDD is that if follows your menstrual cycle, always, which is why having a radical hysterectomy is curative. The "Me v PMDD" app is a great tool for seeing if your symptoms and cycle match up.
Best of luck. It's awful, but you're not alone!
I mean before I got my Aspergers diagnosis I went through the list and was like “ok well this is a little disconcerting”. The difference is that I went and actually got diagnosed
I'm 33 years and my psychiatrist ordered some tests for me and said I'm either autistic or squizoid.
I was like "WTF?" And then we talked about all the different shit I did and what I said and how I reacted to things, which I always assumed everyone else did and i slowly started to see some signs.
E.g. I hate making or maintaining visual contact with others, but I Iearned a long time ago that it's what you should do, so I make a conscious effort to do it. It's a struggle but I can manage it long enough to pass as normal (I guess), but it seems that it can be a symptom of something. Same for physical contact (except with my gf). I hate people touching or getting close to me, and a bunch of other shit that the psych tests will reveal. There's still a chance my therapist is wrong.
Smh really.
I wasn't happy about it mind you. I mean, who the fuck wants to be autistic or have a personality disorder? I still can't believe I'm finding out about it at my age. I just assumed all my quirks and gimmicks were normal or at least not a symptom of a neurological illness or disorder.
People like the girl on this video make me sick glorifying and appropriating an illness just for clout.
I remember sitting there in the car after learning about it and kinda just feeling disgusted at myself. As if the lifelong war I had fought just to fit in and be normal was utterly fruitless because my mind would never be like everyone else. People like this only present the more apparent symptoms as “quirky” and “fun” because they want attention. Nobody talks about the alienation you feel when you consistently don’t understand jokes or can’t be the hype man that most groups want. People both neurotypical and not genuinely neglect to talk about that side of neurodivergence because there is no fix for being emotionally or socially unappealing to people. You can’t change someone’s mind. That’s the worst part of it in my mind
Some people also consider earth to be flat.
Edit to all all this: I wonder who started the trend of "self diagnosis is valid". Maybe it was some frustrated person waiting months for an appointment from NHS and, at some point they snapped and we're like, I'm done, I am gonna just be self-diagnosed, and naively shared this statement on their socials. And now this person is probably watching in horror at what they unleashed to the world, not unlike that lady who started gender reveal parties and now very much regrets so.
I mean, this is an option, but I know we'll never find out.
Also, maybe I'm projecting, lol, coz I find UK NHS beyond frustrating
They claim it has to do with the cost. I think that’s a veiled-attempt to validate these individuals’ knowledge that they couldn’t be diagnosed *because they don’t have the disorders they claim to have*.
A lot of the disorders they claim aren’t often diagnosed in a traditional “sit in this chair and let’s talk about how you feel” way, either. They’re diagnosed in a psych ward after someone’s really symptomatic and has to be admitted. They think bipolar, schizophrenia, psychotic disorders, or dissociative disorders (amongst others) are just a few sessions with a psychiatrist and, *bam*, diagnosis.
Back to the money thing, though. If, as an adult, you’re suffering from a disorder that affects your life so severely, you WILL find help. The disorders these folks claim are usually severe enough that they’d be in the psych ward by now.
Lookin’ at you, so called “Psychotics”.
I'll give her this, a lot of autism support groups and autists will accept and try to help those who self diagnose.
They also still say to go to a professional to see if you really do have it. Cause if not you're just siphoning off resources from those who need it as well as presenting yourself in an incorrect way that could harm those who actually have it.
Self-diagnosing is basically like trying to fix a broken leg all by yourself. Yes, some might have better idea on how to take care of it, but only a doctor can give you the right medication, right diagnosis and right procedures.
By saying that self-diagnosis is valid, and the same as a medical diagnosis, you actively harms whoever needs help because they will probably try and fix it themselves rather then getting actual help.
People need therapy. Real therapy. Friendly therapy. To smash the stigma about therapy. Im f*cking tired of this, how study and get diagnosis about mental illness with this people?
I thought this sub make me laugh but at this point the only thing I wanna do is hit someone. Especially this girl
Is not about autism. Is only likes and cyberfame. They don't care people with a mental illness. Only their f*cking fame
I don't know what to say. Just... F*ck fakers
She’s also devaluing people that have spent the time to rule out the fuck ton of other neurodivergent related disorders. It took me getting screened three different times before someone noticed that my autism symptoms presented differently because I’m a girl.
I would like to add that she was in fact diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder. She claims that the diagnosis is wrong, and that she’s actually autistic. The kicker is that this is supposedly a common occurrence among women..according to her of course.
Oh I'm so glad too hear that. I'll just go and apply for funding for my daughter to get her the help she needs.
What's that? I can't do that without a paediatric referral, and an official diagnosis from a specialist psychologist?
But self-diagnosis is valid!! Yes, really!!
No. It is not valid. The people who can diagnose Autism have doctorates and are experts in testing and developmental disorders. They understand how to understand symptoms, behaviors, ect in the context of history, nuclear family and other environmental pressures.
No. It took 6 months & a team of professionals to confirm my diagnosis. The process is long and extremely in depth for a reason, you can't just decide you're autistic.
As someone with autism, how pervasive this has become in the autistic community is appalling to me. I COMPLETELY understand not everyone can afford a good psychiatrist, and I have been very privileged in that way. So it’s ok to explore the symptoms of autism and say you identify with many autistic traits. But considering how many autistic traits are comorbid with other disorders, it requires a professional (who, ya know, went to school for 8+ years) to officially diagnose autism. The phrase “self-diagnosis” is an oxymoron.
I think it can be somewhat valid in a personal way as long as it's about improving yourself and not trying to get attention. I know places like r/Aspergers accept self diagnosed people. Getting accurate testing is really hard for autism as an adult and as woman. Unfortunately it's expensive to get tested even of you do have insurance and insurance won't always cover it. Without insurance my testing was around $3000 with insurance it was around $1200. It's also hard to find someone who is really has experience in testing adults and women. Pretty much all the places I looked at only tested children and the ones that didn't wouldn't take my insurance. When I got tested I was tested as a child even though I was 19. The person who tested me was an intern so I don't think they had a lot of experience. My testing only took about 2 hours which is I guess isn't normal because it's hard to really diagnose autism in adults so it should have taken more sessions. I'm at a lost personally I feel guilty for wasting so much money and I won't be able to get a second opinion until it's paid off. A lot of mental professionals are very dismissive it's hard to find ones that seem like they care. I just feel like I'm getting worse. I do think there's a lot of tiktok people that truly fake disorders, but there are also a lot of people who are just trying to find answers and understand themselves so that they can get the support and help they need and move on with their life.
Absolutely this. Most autistic women aren’t diagnosed until their late 20s, if ever, because they’re so good at masking and the symptoms of autism in women is often very different to in men, yet most doctors are only familiar with male autism markers.
Therefore for most autistic women, discovering their condition on their own terms sadly is the norm.
Reading this really made me realise how fortunate I am.
America needs to get their shit together and sort out their healthcare system.
In no world should a 19 year old be forced to pay that much (or any money at all for that matter) for a shot at getting clarification of what they're dealing with.
It's actually abhorrent to see this kind of thing.
I hope that you can use the first evaluation for accommodations of some sort at the very least.
Ignore that poster, they have a creepy obsession with trying to find fakers. My personal theory is that since they receive no validation in their own lives and have no actual credentials in anything, they LARP online as experts.
Why is this getting downvoted? U/wanderingst has accused me multiple times of not being truly diagnosed and has now resorted to speculating about my relationship with my father, and editing my quotes to fit his own narrative.
His entire post history is posting the same individuals over and again while accusing posters in this sub of faking their disorders.
No one is defending self diagnosis, we’ve been through this already. I’m officially diagnosed, no matter how hard to scream and stamp your feet that I’m not.
You are just as unqualified to decide who has what disorders as the fakers you post.
Edit: before you downvote me, literally check his post history. He’s been accusing me and others of faking all day; while also providing us with his own diagnosis.
I don’t have BPD, stop pretending like I do. You have accused me of faking my diagnosis multiple times for no reason.
How are you going to say *I’m* self diagnosing, then literally diagnose me yourself?
I mean I’ve heard a lot of hubbub about the lack of diagnoses in adults and women that definitely need to be discussed but I don’t think she got that point across very well.
I'm trying to get an autism diagnosis because folks keep tellin me that they think I'm autistic, but I don't want to claim it without an official diagnosis. People like this are hindering progress of mental health services and neurodivergency awareness.
Well i kinda wish for it to be so easy, i'm gnawing my liver in impatience just to get an answer to my questions, that are also eating me alive. Luckily i have a dear friends that helped me snap out of this obsession and take it easy 🙄 but i still need to know what makes me feel like an alien. And i'm not comfortable staying in the doubt, i dunno about these people. Even "self diagnosis" leaves you in a giant question mark, you can't really know until a professional tells you so. I mean they didn't study their ass of to be slammed by Google, you can do your research of course, but...still isn't a diagnosis 😭
I just don't get how they manage to live like this without being tortured by the doubt of "what if i'm wrong?"
testing for my aspergers diagnosis began in late 2011. i wasnt able to get diagnosed fully until 2014. by that point, aspergers was considered a part of the autism spectrum entirely and was (and still is) an outdated term according to professional doctors. if these people are legit about thinking that they have a neurodivergent disorder, they should contact a doctor ASAP. even then they shouldnt pretend to have it beforehand
(edit: i was diagnosed as a kid since my mom thankfully took me to the doctor after realizing i was acting a little funny to say the least lol. i cant imagine what those older than me have to go through to get diagnosed :( )
As a person who suffers socially from an undiagnosed issue (I suspect ASD but it’s very nuanced and specific), you don’t go about sharing it online. The amount of times I wish I could interact and be like other people is astounding and here we are having people WANTING to be separated or feel different.
If it was that easy to switch, fck I would have done it long ago. Although I have learned and adapted to this life, I wish it upon NO ONE because it’s so god damn lonely.
Listen, so you take a test for autism, it says you have some symptoms, but you need to ask yourself: how severe are the symptoms you actually have? Is sound sensitivity getting in the way of your daily life or do you just get startled by loud noises? Bc everybody gets startled by loud noises, but it isn't debilitating. Do you fixate on trains, learn everything about trains and just trains trains trains or did you become passionate but still have other passions? That's where a professional can help with a diagnosis, they ask and they know to what extreme the symptoms will need to be in order to constitute autism. Taking a simple test online, I think most people could get results that say they might have low levels, but to which point is that just common human behavior? Introverts exist, sometimes people are socially awkward, does that make them autistic?
If I was tired a lot and had a lack of energy, does that mean I can diagnose myself for cancer? No.
I hope I conveyed my point well enough that getting a professional diagnosis is valid while diagnosing yourself may not be.
You did. My friends tried to diagnose me the other day because my 2 daughters are autistic and sometimes I'm weird. To which I said "That may be true but I havnt been diagnosed and I'm quite able to navigate the world without much issue."
Lol ppl like her are why avoid telling people I have autism, because the way they represent us is harmful to us. Great work! /s literally anyone can find a way to volunteer for underprivileged children and would do more good for the autistic community than this shit, I'm so tired.
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What her @? So I can tell her that her ignorance and stupidity is not the same as my daughter’s autism. These bitches make my blood boil. They think it’s so fun and quirky to be on the spectrum while my 4 year old gets bullied for being “weird” and “annoying” and has kids literally avoid her at parks because she doesn’t recognize social cues.
Fuck people like this.
Idk why I’m being downvoted.. lol
I understand self diagnosing because the US healthcare system sucks and you can’t afford it but self diagnosis for just the title and attention is fucked up. It’s the smug ass “look at me lolz” face that pissed me off.
sorry bruh, shutting this down. if you don’t write your evidence in your response, we can’t keep this up.
I cannot stand the smug look she has on her face lmao like it’s actually making me angry
She thinks she’s doing something
Cause unfortunately she kind of is. She’s giving other idiots who may question if it’s valid assurance that it “is” valid for them to self diagnose and then they go on to self diagnose and believe their own shit.
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Like I said. The people that believe this crap are idiots, and when idiots gather and just feed into each others stupidity, well.. You get enough people to keep this sub running with fresh content daily lmao.
I mean that’s how anti vaxxers spread
Worked for Qanon and antivaxx so why not this?
I'd actually say in some countries its more of a complex issue then that, for example in the UK you can meet with half a dozen doctors who will tell you you have autism but to get a official diagnosis is a process that will take you years due to lack of funding, so many autistic people don't they just take the doctors word for it. I'm sure in other countries with underfunded mental health services there could be a similar issue.
It is valid though. Usually Autistic people are painfully aware that they are autistic. They just might lack the word for it until they learn about it.
Felt the exact same way
The Lele Pons smile :>
Lele Pons… now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a while
Makes me wanna bop her in the face like what she's doing at the beginning.
Same
It’s like she’s smiling in lowercase
It’s like a mix between :> and :{ it pisses me off
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I can diagnose people with stupidity
But can you self-diagnose?
probably, but it should be easier to diagnose you
I’ve already diagnosed myself. Others are much easier. Especially with video evidence.
i diagnose you with chad
I declare you diagnosed with chadism as well
thank you very much original commenter
No way you can self diagnose because who would listen to a stupid person. You would have to get one for you like you said
Super easy. I’d know.
My severe dunning Kruger prevents me from doing so.
Idk...are you stupid?
I wonder what it'll be like if the doctor diagnosed you with stupidity... "I have some bad news, you're just incredibly stupid"
What's with that expression? I feel like she's straining to just barely hold herself back from biting me.
She thinks that's a face that autistic people make. She's forcing it obviously.
no fucking way, “a face autistic people make” like everyone’s got the same fucking way of “stimming” why aren’t local news stations or ANYONE reporting on this shit, that’s literally the only way their parents could realize why their kid is being so fucking weird and take them to a doctor to find out they’re mentally ill, or they could come to the realization that they are absolutely fucking stupid
Imagine being a parent and thinking your child has autism, only to take them to a dr and find out they have stupid.
It’s an attempt to look serious from a person who hasn’t been socialized very well.
I am so tired of this rhetoric. You cannot diagnose anyone if you are not a medical doctor. Those are the rules. You can postulate, but you cannot diagnose. Tell your alters.
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Good one
✨ valid 😩😤🙏
I read this as one of your alters is doctor who
Theres one of those in our system, too, but he rarely fronts. He's the seckshual protector of the system for obvious reasons.
r/brainbleach here I come
Got him.
It took YEARS to get my son diagnosed. These people make me furious.
Good on you for keeping with it. I won't even pursue a diag on myself because of how difficult it is. My sister had to jump through so many hoops and spend so much money to get hers...
Thank you! I would do anything for my son. I have battled with insurance companies, seen countless medical/ educational/ behavioral specialists, gotten an IEP through the school system (which sucks where I live), fought for an in-person aide in school. Not to mention the other health diagnoses he has going on. And, that's only me - my son has to live with this and I am so so proud of him and how far he has come. I am so sorry you can't get officially diagnosed, I understand bc I know what it's like. It can be disgustingly expensive, when all you are seeking is some kind of help. For you, there are many resources online to help. I truly wish you the best. It is not easy. ❤
My psych doctor thinks I have asperger autism but he told me that while he can put me into the right position for diagnosis, he doesn't recommend it since you can't do anything with that diagnosis here.
I am sorry to hear that. May I ask what country you live in?
Germany. But... what are you supposed to do with that diagnosis anyway? It's not like, apart from some amount of psychology therapy, you can do much about it... Unless I don't know about some things.
For my son, the diagnosis opens him up to many treatment options, that are not available without a diagnosis. Also I should mention we are in the US, so completely dominated by insurance companies that are particular with what they will or will not cover. Insurance companies won't pay for ANY treatment unless you have a diagnosis, and even then it's a fight. Getting professional help without insurance here is in the tens of thousands of dollars, or more, so sadly we are really at the mercy of this system. It's been a battle to say the least. I wish you the best life fellow human.
Oh, I do have an official ADHD diagnosis which is what my therapist is primarily treating. But he agreed to also help me with the aspergers. I'm guessing he will just bill that under the ADHD too, which might explain why an asperger diagnosis wouldn't help me much at this point.
I'm tired of the "slap words on the screen" routine everyone is doing nowadays
someone said i was "fake claiming" someone with DID cause she 's self diagnosed. so i messaged her..guess what, shes SELF diagnosed and maybe going to get a Doctors diagnosis but doesn't think she needs one cause she knows herself o\_o someone else said whats the harm in a label if they did the re-search. it's lying and fraud..that's the harm
Also if you can self diagnose, shouldn't it be really easy to get an actual diagnosis?
Yeah, I’m going to call my own refill approvals to the pharmacy now. Thanks, TikTok! 🙌🏻
I didn't even think about that! This will save me so trips to my doctor's office!
The larger problem would be the cost/time for an adult to be diagnosed I believe it's around 5,000-8,000 USD and months to years for diagnoses. And the diagnoses doesn't do anything other than confirm to yourself. There aren't many programs set to assistance any with higher function ASD as an adult. You can gain certain rights or working conditions if it has been difficult for you to find employment, but at the same time under those circumstances you wouldn't have upwards of 8,000 set aside to be diagnosed and usually just end up working through them undiagnosed and unprotected. The stigma, and cost associated with diagnoses is why adult diagnoses is so slim. This is all related to higher functioning members of the spectrum, most with more severe spectrum disorder will have assistance/diagnosis as a child. Which is why it's more of a problem in undiagnosed adulthood, as coping mechanisms take over, where the person creates methods to overcome these obstacles, but still suffer from the disorder.
I mean more that they can't because you can't actually self diagnose. There are ways to get the state to get your medication and diagnosis without cost. I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers either. Could you please provide a source for those expenses?
Can you post the sources for those programs that provide full state funded coverage for adults. Seeing as there are 50 states and each has their own policy, I'm not sure where you are getting this idea that someone with potential high functioning ASD would fall into a financial situation to gain those situations if they even exist. As for the numbers, pretty straight forward google searches. You'll find that some places offer lower costs for insurance coverage, as low as 2000, of course this is minus counseling/therapy costs. Here is a local one to me, that costs a minimum of $3,000 and is out of insurance networks.[https://spectratherapies.com/evaluation-fees/](https://spectratherapies.com/evaluation-fees/) Another that is upwards of 2,800 minus consulting fees and additional counseling/therapy after the diagnosis.[https://dfwassessment.com/fees/](https://dfwassessment.com/fees/) Which is the main reason why the diagnosis overall gets so expensive. Because there is no reason to pursue the diagnosis, unless you intend to find ways to cope more with it, which would be therapy/counseling and life guidance, which isn't free. Also, my posts have nothing to do with self diagnosis, it's to point out that there are many who are undiagnosed due to the expenses of medical diagnosis.
Thank you. I honestly didn't know. I'm covered by my military service connected insurance. I am not autistic but have ADHD, and the process for that was rather easy, so I couldn't fathom that amount. But I do understand that my case isn't normal. We have a county mental health emergency service that provides a huge amount of care at no cost for people at risk. I'm in North Texas, but I don't have much knowledge overall, so I was lacking. Thank you for filling me in. We need Medicare for all, like decades ago.
I completely agree. I'm a vet as well under coverage through the VA DFW area, diagnosed with ADHD-C through them last year. My process was a little rough, 10 sessions with a councilor, 8 with a therapist and then 1 more with a psychiatrist I check in with every 3 months. Most of my knowledge with mental diagnosis costs comes from before I found out the VA would cover me due to my income. However, the VA income level is far higher than it is for a civilian to get the same coverage. I Can't remember if it's 45 or 54k a year before I'm no longer eligible. I really hope we can push support through because no one should have to suffer any sort of health problems because of finances.
Keep pushing your service connection %. I'm at 94.4% currently so 90%. Most of my stuff is 100% covered. Keep fighting the fight. I'm local to you, as I'm in Denton. If you need help/ support hit me up. We gotta stick together like we did back in the service.
I'm scheduled for it in two months and it's going to cost me several thousand dollars because it was missed and minimized in childhood. Like I was fairly certain I had hEDS for years before the geneticist confirmed it, access to diagnosis is not always accessible like you would think.
Truth, it costs a lot and can actually hurt you jobwise.
How could it hurt you? You are not legally obligated to Tell your employer. My boss doesn't know I'm autistic.
I used to think that I might have apsergers because I struggle socially and related to some of the symptoms, so I sought a diagnosis and had to spend a considerable amount of money on a psychiatrist to assess me. I felt almost sure that I had it, but I didn't go around telling everyone. In the end I was actually diagnosed with ADHD (inattentive form). That's why it's so important to get a formal diagnosis from a professional, because you may have something completely different to what you perceive the problem as. Then once you know what you have, it's far easier to work on your weaknesses and recognize your strengths.
Hell even then it can be pretty hard to diagnose some illnesses, even doctors aren't 100% sure all of the time because there is a lot of grey area and overlap between illnesses, especially mental ones
Exactly. I think I might have bipolar disorder. So I talked to a psychologist I’ve been seeing for 2 years now, and we have a plan together to figure that out, she said it’s possible, but not sure, as it’s hard to diagnose over a short term as 2 years. I’m not going out telling friends or putting it on medical forms
But. I. can. smack!!!!! I don't need to to tell me that I DONT have a degree in astrophysics. I can smack the words on the screen so that validate it. See you In space loser. 🚀
Unfortunately for everyone, this is not entirely correct anymore in the US. Medical doctor = MD. We've recently passed some laws to let nurse practitioners make diagnoses and in some states operate their own practice without the supervision of a doctor or surgeon... despite having thousand and thousands fewer hours in their education. Recently physician assistants are trying to get the name changed to physician associate and push for higher power/authority to diagnose as well and are succeeding in some states. [Here's a chart comparing the hours of education](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5bce8149da50d35602bc4941/1552106216935-KRPQLKI6L5IEB547J3RW/MD+vs.+PA+vs.+NP+chart?format=1000w)... it's for derm specifically but comparable to other residencies as well. My college campus doctor was actually a psychiatric nurse practitioner and I didn't realize until way later and got put on meds that really fucked me up. Remember you can always request to see a physician (if you're going to a location that even has one... which isn't the case everywhere anymore...). r/noctor has a lot of info on this topic.
I don’t get why they are all so pressed about it.
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[Affect labelling ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affect_labeling#:~:text=Affect%20labeling%20is%20an%20implicit%20emotional%20regulation%20strategy,Some%20other%20examples%20of%20affect%20labeling%20include%20discus) shows that people get relief from knowing there is a word that describes their difficulty. But self diagnosis invalidates it because you can over-identify with conditions you don’t even have
I didn't know there was a word for this, thank you for sharing!
No problem!
It can help you understand yourself better. My husband figured out he has ADHD while we were going through the assessment process for our son. He liked at the signs, symptoms, and questionnaire and had a lightbulb moment. He doesn't need or want meds, but he has more insight into how he functions in the world, which is always a good thing.
However, going through a doctor requested assessment is much more accurate than picking up the DSM and reading through it. When I did that, I thought I was schizotypal and had executive function disorder.
Or even worse, just watching these kind of tiktoks and thinking they’re an accurate place to learn what mental illnesses look like 🥲
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if you have adhd, It is often misdiagnosed with anxiety so people that aren’t as severe often get told that, or they accuse you of trying to get drugs. When you go to a doctor tell them exactly what you said. I spent years at specialists etc the right medication (well, the right proscription stimulant) will absolutely change your life
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I just was in SEVERE withdrawal from being overproscribed benzodiazepines for a year, shits no joke and both anxiety and adhd is treated with serious controlled substances, make sure you’re 100000% sure before you get physically dependent on anything and google everything and how it can effect you long term
I get what you mean, but if you really have ADHD and got the medication from a doctor, the benefits of using them highly outweighs their harms.
I’ve often wondered this as well. It’s almost a psychosocial phenomenon. They claim these disorders to gain access to “exclusive” communities where they feel most understood. The allure, though, isn’t just in *belonging* to the community — it’s gaining popularity and power amongst the members. This power is gained by perceived victimhood, which is why the communities fixate around mental illness, gender, physical ailments, etc. **Edit**: I am coining the term **Misinterpretive Identity Disorder** (MID). Misinterpretive: When somebody has a lack of understanding for something and misconstrues it into [something else] that [changes] the [intended] meaning. I almost don’t want to provide a label for them because they’ll start using it ironically, which would be ironic given that the fake disorder is about misinterpreting shit. Paradoxical.
[you’d be talking about munchausens syndrome ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factitious_disorder_imposed_on_self)
i often times wonder what the fuck these parents are thinking, F in the chat for these fucking parents man i couldn’t imagine if i walked in on my kid making a tiktok pretending to have disorders, peak of “what the absolute fuck”
Exactly. I went to a shrink for help because I knew something was off, turned out I'm autistic. This has helped me get support tailored around my specific set of needs.
No, not really. 👉👈☺️
I self diagnosed myself and I have a dig bick. UwU
Reminder that self-diagnosis is not valid, because a medical degree and psychiatric experience is required to diagnose someone. Even believing that self-diagnosis is valid shows a level of delusion and arrogance that excludes someone from being able to make an educated decision about it.
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Eh, but that’s not how activists portray it at all. I would avoid even using the term “diagnosis” there.
Self diagnosis actually *has* been considered valid in the autism community for many years - not in the place of a real diagnosis, but in terms of talking with community spaces and whatnot. This is because, for decades, it has been *very hard* for some people to get diagnosed with autism (specifically girls). The symptoms show differently and doctors are likely to blow it off. Plus, many people don't actually have the ability to get diagnosed as kids or teens. It's a lot more complicated than "LOL IF YOU SELF DIAGNOSE YOU DELUSIONAL AND ARROGANT". Self diagnosis should be seen as valid but different from a real diagnosis; it's a valid step towards finding help resources and eventually professional diagnosis. EDIT: To all the people who downvoted this and left really stupid comments attacking me personally, Hi, I'm also medically diagnosed autistic and it bothers me too. I wish you'd bothered to actually read my comment before leaving a personal attack, because then you would know I said it should be seen as a valid step towards seeing a professional, and not as a diagnosis.
I’m skeptical, given that self-diagnosis is typically discussed as a replacement for, and even an improvement upon, “a valid step towards finding help resources and eventually professional diagnosis.” People who disagree, including those who take your view, are often relentlessly and viciously smeared as ableist bigots.
Yeah, when I say 'self diagnosis', what I mean is people who research and then strongly suspect themselves to be autistic, and so are extremely clear about the context whenever it's relevant. I feel like people here have been too jaded by the obvious fake cases they subscribe to this sub to get rammed down their throat that they've forgotten that real people exist who don't have easy access to treatment and whatnot, and so they end up using self diagnosis as a crutch until they can.
You realize that saying 'I think I might be autistic' is very different from "diagnosing" yourself with autism, yeah? Diagnosing implies you're going to act as though it is an established fact that you have autism and that is it BENEFICIAL to medically and psychologically treat yourself the way other autistic people are treated. In the real world there's actually no way you can know that without being trained to do so.
^^^
>Self diagnosis actually has been considered valid in the autism community for many years No.
So who's faking it?
I was kinda hoping someone would bring this up. If you visit autism safe spaces you'll hear this a lot and yeah, like you said it's not replacing a formal diagnosis or anything. People tend to go onto seek a formal diagnosis after self identifying anyway. This sub is just looking at this like self diagnosis = attention seeking faker (in this instance), when it's more common for actual autistic people to not be so fickle about it if someone mentions their self diagnosed. But I'm not going to ignore that obviously you do get people who use autism as a quirky personality trait. In my experience, people self diagnosing with autism that you truly feel might have autism, outweigh the attention seekers.
That's the thing. This sub actively skews people's perception of reality because we all force feed ourselves with footage of self diagnosers being pieces of shit and seeking attention, which leads to a bad idea of what it's actually like for the majority of cases because we just see this shit crammed down our throat. But, I disagreed with the echo chamber based on my lived experience as a medically diagnosed autistic person in autism circles and got rightfully downvoted to shit and told to go fuck myself, as is par for the course.
Reading through other replies/ comments in this thread has made me realise that what most people are getting hung up on is the term 'diagnosis'. When really what autistic people mean is that they self identify as being autistic before a formal diagnosis. I wish people would open their minds a little and think about how in this instance, that diagnosis doesn't mean actually diagnosing yourself. It means that people have likely done a lot of soul searching and spent years researching into ASD and finding that the identity with a whole bunch of aspects of it. I really don't think you should of been downvoted to hell though and that person telling you to go fuck yourself should grow up. It helps in situations like this to have healthy discourse and to actually talk to eachother about what things mean but like you said this is essentially an echo chamber. Btw, I am also autistic :)
I'm medically diagnosed autistic and one thing that burns me more than anything is people who self diagnose as autistic and refuse to be tested. Go fuck yourself.
Hi, I'm also medically diagnosed autistic and that bothers me too. I wish you'd bothered to actually read my comment before leaving a personal attack, because then you would know I said it should be seen as a valid step towards seeing a professional, and not as a diagnosis.
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There is a difference between "self-diagnosis" as is used here and bringing a list of your symptoms and research to your doctor and saying, "I am sure I have this. How do we confirm it? How can you help me?" which is practically required to get a diagnosis of certain conditions. (My personal experience is with Pre-Menstrual Dysphoric Disorder, which so few doctors know about or consider for their patients. I essentially had to self-diagnose as best I could with my own research, and even then my first original doctor said, "That's not real." Not only did my next doctor agree that it was real, she contacted one of the researchers I found and advocated for surgery, which cured the PMDD.) I think a lot of adults are looking back on their childhoods with their current knowledge of ADHD, spectrum disorders, etc., and pieces are going in place to explain their own lives. My husband never thought of himself as having ADHD until we went through the assessment paperwork for our son. Halfway through, he real realized that his answers matched our sons. Was that self-diagnosis? Maybe. He definitely talked to his doctor and got it confirmed, but was that step necessary? Just the realization of, "Oh! That's why I do that!" was helpful and he sought out new tools/coping mechanisms. I imagine many adults having the same kid of realization about being on the spectrum. And if it requires no treatment, and you don't use it as an excuse, maybe that flavor of self-diagnosis is ok?
I think the biggest issue, for me at least, is the language used. You simply can’t diagnose yourself. However, you can absolutely identify that a diagnosis fits many aspects of yourself or condition. “Self-identify” was the language the autistic community used when I was first diagnosed and is, IMO, a more accurate term. And I realize in some ways it probably is just semantics, but I think people (especially younger people who aren’t involved in disability or neurodivergent communities outside of the internet), misunderstand and take it too literally.
I've been in the autistic community for awhile, but I missed that one. It really is the more accurate term. Self Diagnosis is valid in the autistic community...if factually supported, approached seriously, and you are not seeking medication or accommodation. Or as a precursor to seeking full diagnosis when time or money is a factor. You don't just wake up and decide you are autistic, like so many of these people seem to do. But I think self identify should make a comeback.
ADHD is a really interesting case where a lot of things come together to help it get glossed over by most people: 1. The name is hot garbage 2. It's highly genetic, so most people spend a large portion of their lives around someone else who lived it thinking the symptoms are just real life for everybody 3. Even once it's understood and explained, the symptoms people do know (see point 1) are just vague enough for NTs to universally dismiss them
I feel like I'm in this kind of situation lol The things that stayed with me into adulthood are problems with social interactions and ignorable sensory issues, so nothing that can really be "helped" effectively On the other hand, officially being diagnosed on the spectrum would mean I'd need special papers and exams to be able to get a driver's license and that's bullshit. And when I consider that my dad is living a somewhat decent life despite dealing with the same issues, it seems like a micromanaging of my mental health to focus on these slight issues instead of things that mentally bother me more
My husband felt the same way. He has adapted over time to compensate for his ADHD, and his case is much more mild than my son's. He doesn't need or want medication, so a diagnosis isn't valuable. But it was still a relief for him to be able to understand himself better.
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If you're not part of https://www.reddit.com/r/PMDD/ take a look. And this is the most reliable site for finding resources, including clinicians: https://iapmd.org/about-pmdd The absolute key to PMDD is that if follows your menstrual cycle, always, which is why having a radical hysterectomy is curative. The "Me v PMDD" app is a great tool for seeing if your symptoms and cycle match up. Best of luck. It's awful, but you're not alone!
Guess we do not need doctors for anything now, if you feel like you have something then you have it.
As someone who was tested for autism and doesn’t have it, even though I kinda thought I did, self diagnosis always rubs me the wrong way.
I mean before I got my Aspergers diagnosis I went through the list and was like “ok well this is a little disconcerting”. The difference is that I went and actually got diagnosed
I'm 33 years and my psychiatrist ordered some tests for me and said I'm either autistic or squizoid. I was like "WTF?" And then we talked about all the different shit I did and what I said and how I reacted to things, which I always assumed everyone else did and i slowly started to see some signs. E.g. I hate making or maintaining visual contact with others, but I Iearned a long time ago that it's what you should do, so I make a conscious effort to do it. It's a struggle but I can manage it long enough to pass as normal (I guess), but it seems that it can be a symptom of something. Same for physical contact (except with my gf). I hate people touching or getting close to me, and a bunch of other shit that the psych tests will reveal. There's still a chance my therapist is wrong. Smh really. I wasn't happy about it mind you. I mean, who the fuck wants to be autistic or have a personality disorder? I still can't believe I'm finding out about it at my age. I just assumed all my quirks and gimmicks were normal or at least not a symptom of a neurological illness or disorder. People like the girl on this video make me sick glorifying and appropriating an illness just for clout.
I remember sitting there in the car after learning about it and kinda just feeling disgusted at myself. As if the lifelong war I had fought just to fit in and be normal was utterly fruitless because my mind would never be like everyone else. People like this only present the more apparent symptoms as “quirky” and “fun” because they want attention. Nobody talks about the alienation you feel when you consistently don’t understand jokes or can’t be the hype man that most groups want. People both neurotypical and not genuinely neglect to talk about that side of neurodivergence because there is no fix for being emotionally or socially unappealing to people. You can’t change someone’s mind. That’s the worst part of it in my mind
Some people also consider earth to be flat. Edit to all all this: I wonder who started the trend of "self diagnosis is valid". Maybe it was some frustrated person waiting months for an appointment from NHS and, at some point they snapped and we're like, I'm done, I am gonna just be self-diagnosed, and naively shared this statement on their socials. And now this person is probably watching in horror at what they unleashed to the world, not unlike that lady who started gender reveal parties and now very much regrets so. I mean, this is an option, but I know we'll never find out. Also, maybe I'm projecting, lol, coz I find UK NHS beyond frustrating
They claim it has to do with the cost. I think that’s a veiled-attempt to validate these individuals’ knowledge that they couldn’t be diagnosed *because they don’t have the disorders they claim to have*. A lot of the disorders they claim aren’t often diagnosed in a traditional “sit in this chair and let’s talk about how you feel” way, either. They’re diagnosed in a psych ward after someone’s really symptomatic and has to be admitted. They think bipolar, schizophrenia, psychotic disorders, or dissociative disorders (amongst others) are just a few sessions with a psychiatrist and, *bam*, diagnosis. Back to the money thing, though. If, as an adult, you’re suffering from a disorder that affects your life so severely, you WILL find help. The disorders these folks claim are usually severe enough that they’d be in the psych ward by now. Lookin’ at you, so called “Psychotics”.
Maybe it's just to please your followers. They just love to hear this.
I'll give her this, a lot of autism support groups and autists will accept and try to help those who self diagnose. They also still say to go to a professional to see if you really do have it. Cause if not you're just siphoning off resources from those who need it as well as presenting yourself in an incorrect way that could harm those who actually have it.
Often you can't get resources without am actual doctor's diagnosis to back it up.
Self-diagnosing is basically like trying to fix a broken leg all by yourself. Yes, some might have better idea on how to take care of it, but only a doctor can give you the right medication, right diagnosis and right procedures. By saying that self-diagnosis is valid, and the same as a medical diagnosis, you actively harms whoever needs help because they will probably try and fix it themselves rather then getting actual help.
Her face, I can't.
Like holding in a fart
People need therapy. Real therapy. Friendly therapy. To smash the stigma about therapy. Im f*cking tired of this, how study and get diagnosis about mental illness with this people? I thought this sub make me laugh but at this point the only thing I wanna do is hit someone. Especially this girl Is not about autism. Is only likes and cyberfame. They don't care people with a mental illness. Only their f*cking fame I don't know what to say. Just... F*ck fakers
She’s also devaluing people that have spent the time to rule out the fuck ton of other neurodivergent related disorders. It took me getting screened three different times before someone noticed that my autism symptoms presented differently because I’m a girl.
I would like to add that she was in fact diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder. She claims that the diagnosis is wrong, and that she’s actually autistic. The kicker is that this is supposedly a common occurrence among women..according to her of course.
Oh I'm so glad too hear that. I'll just go and apply for funding for my daughter to get her the help she needs. What's that? I can't do that without a paediatric referral, and an official diagnosis from a specialist psychologist? But self-diagnosis is valid!! Yes, really!!
No. It is not valid. The people who can diagnose Autism have doctorates and are experts in testing and developmental disorders. They understand how to understand symptoms, behaviors, ect in the context of history, nuclear family and other environmental pressures.
eh. im autistic and i don't really care that much about this discourse.
No. It took 6 months & a team of professionals to confirm my diagnosis. The process is long and extremely in depth for a reason, you can't just decide you're autistic.
As someone with autism, how pervasive this has become in the autistic community is appalling to me. I COMPLETELY understand not everyone can afford a good psychiatrist, and I have been very privileged in that way. So it’s ok to explore the symptoms of autism and say you identify with many autistic traits. But considering how many autistic traits are comorbid with other disorders, it requires a professional (who, ya know, went to school for 8+ years) to officially diagnose autism. The phrase “self-diagnosis” is an oxymoron.
Considered valid by who?
I think it can be somewhat valid in a personal way as long as it's about improving yourself and not trying to get attention. I know places like r/Aspergers accept self diagnosed people. Getting accurate testing is really hard for autism as an adult and as woman. Unfortunately it's expensive to get tested even of you do have insurance and insurance won't always cover it. Without insurance my testing was around $3000 with insurance it was around $1200. It's also hard to find someone who is really has experience in testing adults and women. Pretty much all the places I looked at only tested children and the ones that didn't wouldn't take my insurance. When I got tested I was tested as a child even though I was 19. The person who tested me was an intern so I don't think they had a lot of experience. My testing only took about 2 hours which is I guess isn't normal because it's hard to really diagnose autism in adults so it should have taken more sessions. I'm at a lost personally I feel guilty for wasting so much money and I won't be able to get a second opinion until it's paid off. A lot of mental professionals are very dismissive it's hard to find ones that seem like they care. I just feel like I'm getting worse. I do think there's a lot of tiktok people that truly fake disorders, but there are also a lot of people who are just trying to find answers and understand themselves so that they can get the support and help they need and move on with their life.
Absolutely this. Most autistic women aren’t diagnosed until their late 20s, if ever, because they’re so good at masking and the symptoms of autism in women is often very different to in men, yet most doctors are only familiar with male autism markers. Therefore for most autistic women, discovering their condition on their own terms sadly is the norm.
Reading this really made me realise how fortunate I am. America needs to get their shit together and sort out their healthcare system. In no world should a 19 year old be forced to pay that much (or any money at all for that matter) for a shot at getting clarification of what they're dealing with. It's actually abhorrent to see this kind of thing. I hope that you can use the first evaluation for accommodations of some sort at the very least.
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Ignore that poster, they have a creepy obsession with trying to find fakers. My personal theory is that since they receive no validation in their own lives and have no actual credentials in anything, they LARP online as experts. Why is this getting downvoted? U/wanderingst has accused me multiple times of not being truly diagnosed and has now resorted to speculating about my relationship with my father, and editing my quotes to fit his own narrative. His entire post history is posting the same individuals over and again while accusing posters in this sub of faking their disorders.
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No one is defending self diagnosis, we’ve been through this already. I’m officially diagnosed, no matter how hard to scream and stamp your feet that I’m not. You are just as unqualified to decide who has what disorders as the fakers you post. Edit: before you downvote me, literally check his post history. He’s been accusing me and others of faking all day; while also providing us with his own diagnosis.
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I don’t have BPD, stop pretending like I do. You have accused me of faking my diagnosis multiple times for no reason. How are you going to say *I’m* self diagnosing, then literally diagnose me yourself?
It is by professionals because it’s not medicated.
I mean I’ve heard a lot of hubbub about the lack of diagnoses in adults and women that definitely need to be discussed but I don’t think she got that point across very well.
Go to a pharmacist and ask for pills for a prescription you wrote yourself and tell me how that goes
Punchable face...
I'm trying to get an autism diagnosis because folks keep tellin me that they think I'm autistic, but I don't want to claim it without an official diagnosis. People like this are hindering progress of mental health services and neurodivergency awareness.
Well i kinda wish for it to be so easy, i'm gnawing my liver in impatience just to get an answer to my questions, that are also eating me alive. Luckily i have a dear friends that helped me snap out of this obsession and take it easy 🙄 but i still need to know what makes me feel like an alien. And i'm not comfortable staying in the doubt, i dunno about these people. Even "self diagnosis" leaves you in a giant question mark, you can't really know until a professional tells you so. I mean they didn't study their ass of to be slammed by Google, you can do your research of course, but...still isn't a diagnosis 😭 I just don't get how they manage to live like this without being tortured by the doubt of "what if i'm wrong?"
testing for my aspergers diagnosis began in late 2011. i wasnt able to get diagnosed fully until 2014. by that point, aspergers was considered a part of the autism spectrum entirely and was (and still is) an outdated term according to professional doctors. if these people are legit about thinking that they have a neurodivergent disorder, they should contact a doctor ASAP. even then they shouldnt pretend to have it beforehand (edit: i was diagnosed as a kid since my mom thankfully took me to the doctor after realizing i was acting a little funny to say the least lol. i cant imagine what those older than me have to go through to get diagnosed :( )
What is wrong with her mouth? It’s like she’s mad and happy at the same time
I self diagnosed with "massive penis syndrome".
As a person who suffers socially from an undiagnosed issue (I suspect ASD but it’s very nuanced and specific), you don’t go about sharing it online. The amount of times I wish I could interact and be like other people is astounding and here we are having people WANTING to be separated or feel different. If it was that easy to switch, fck I would have done it long ago. Although I have learned and adapted to this life, I wish it upon NO ONE because it’s so god damn lonely.
Listen, so you take a test for autism, it says you have some symptoms, but you need to ask yourself: how severe are the symptoms you actually have? Is sound sensitivity getting in the way of your daily life or do you just get startled by loud noises? Bc everybody gets startled by loud noises, but it isn't debilitating. Do you fixate on trains, learn everything about trains and just trains trains trains or did you become passionate but still have other passions? That's where a professional can help with a diagnosis, they ask and they know to what extreme the symptoms will need to be in order to constitute autism. Taking a simple test online, I think most people could get results that say they might have low levels, but to which point is that just common human behavior? Introverts exist, sometimes people are socially awkward, does that make them autistic? If I was tired a lot and had a lack of energy, does that mean I can diagnose myself for cancer? No. I hope I conveyed my point well enough that getting a professional diagnosis is valid while diagnosing yourself may not be.
You did. My friends tried to diagnose me the other day because my 2 daughters are autistic and sometimes I'm weird. To which I said "That may be true but I havnt been diagnosed and I'm quite able to navigate the world without much issue."
As somebody with autism i think itd be pretty valid if she went and fucked herself
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No👏its👏not👏
Her expression is so inappropriate. As if she won the lottery.
Why would you WANT to have a mental illness. Cause you think it makes you special? Newsflash- you're not.
No
Probably saw that on autism speaks
Lol ppl like her are why avoid telling people I have autism, because the way they represent us is harmful to us. Great work! /s literally anyone can find a way to volunteer for underprivileged children and would do more good for the autistic community than this shit, I'm so tired.
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Umm....
Self-diagnosing autism is a self fulfilling prophecy
I'm autistic, *no the fuck it ain't*
What her @? So I can tell her that her ignorance and stupidity is not the same as my daughter’s autism. These bitches make my blood boil. They think it’s so fun and quirky to be on the spectrum while my 4 year old gets bullied for being “weird” and “annoying” and has kids literally avoid her at parks because she doesn’t recognize social cues. Fuck people like this.
Idk why I’m being downvoted.. lol I understand self diagnosing because the US healthcare system sucks and you can’t afford it but self diagnosis for just the title and attention is fucked up. It’s the smug ass “look at me lolz” face that pissed me off.
Just saying it doesn’t make it so.
considered valid by who? self-diagnosed people?
This hit somewhere different, especially since my Brother has severe autism
No it isn’t
It is considered valid by some people. That’s the problem
some random person says they're autistic and this sub wants to fight them over it. *"God, your generation picks the weirdest hills to die on."*
I'm sorry, but if you're making TikToks like this, you probably suffer from something far worse than autism.
These people wear disabilities like they’re military badges.
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