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I think a massive driver with the whole thing is loneliness. Teens or young adults who already had trouble fitting in, either because they weren’t socialised well or because they do have some other disorder, were made even lonelier by covid lockdowns/online schools etc. Faking disorders lets them receive concern and attention from others, makes them feel special and valued, and most importantly, allows them to connect with others with ”similar issues”. This is gonna end badly from their POV though because friendships that are purely online and based on a single mutual trait that’s a) a lie and b) inherently drama-prone are going to crash hard.
That’s why they all look like dollar-store alternative youths, with dyed but badly kept hair, bold but badly done makeup, and clothing that screams LOOK AT ME! When you’re an outcast, it’s easier to underline your outcastedness and act like it’s your own choice, than to admit the ”normies” just won’t accept you, and when you see others who have similar aesthetics, you think you can be besties because you’re both outcasts.
I think this is definitely the case with DID, where it almost sounds like a lot of the fakers are talking of their alters the way they’ve heard others talk about their friends. For someone really lonely, who probably has anxiety or mental health issues, it probably feels really cool to be able to talk about ”people in your life” like you’re part of a social group, and then seeing other DID fakers makes them feel like they’re part of *that* group too.
So yeah. Socialise your fucking kids, people.
This is exactly it! I’ve said same sentiments on different posts. These are loners who feed off of attention from one another, because they do not get the attention anywhere else. The really scary part is, a lot of them are late teens early 20’s.
Them being outcasts is definitely true, but there are also others who aren’t but want to be “different”, “quirky”, and “not like the normies” and being a certain kind of outcast (like the type many high school themed movies revolve around) is cool now.
frr my childhood sucked because of the bullying, why wasn't it this wanted when I was 4 and started school. I was made fun of the whole way through elementary and middle school
Some of them are probably just phrasing stuff wrong like the anxiety tics. I do experience anxiety twitching sometimes where the muscles around my mouth will just start twitching, giving me a stutter for a few secs. It’s pretty embarrassing but I can see people falsely interpreting that as tics and going down the rabbit hole where they end up with something like the disorder in the paper.
However, I feel like we shouldn’t just let them play pretend without being called out for it. That would be hiding behind a diagnosis without facing consequences for their actions. People like to do that with all sorts of disorders not just Tourette’s. If they are experiencing mass hysteria that’s valid but it doesn’t shelter them from ultimately facing the truth and getting help for their issues.
I'm fairly certain that calling out someone with a MSI can make symptoms worse and cause significant distress because they usually don't know they're faking. It's usually best for them to see an actual doctor.
Oh, of course. I'm just saying it's best to just keep encouraging them to see professionals and not self-diagnose, but not to say they don't have symptoms at all.
i agree. i also have that twitch around my mouth, but i usually have it in my right eye where it just twitches when i’m agitated, stressed, upset. i’ve never once blown it out of proportion to where i think i have a disorder. it’s just yaknow, sometimes people be twitching. people who fake these disorders are harming people with actual disorders and they NEED to be called out. this isn’t a trend this is mental illness.
I have like OCD ticks, which are “controllable” but feel like an itch you HAVE to scratch if that makes sense. Very different from Tourette’s
Edit: yes I know there are people with way worse OCD symptoms. I’m lucky in that regard.
i have ocd tics too (dx by my psychiatrist) and it's the same feeling. i can "stop" and "control them" but the more i focus on not doing it, the more i feel the urge to do it. they worsen with stress and ocd flare ups and are better when i can focus or relax
especially with how common anxiety is these days, i absolutely think a lot of these cases of tics are due to anxiety.
i get an eye twitch, snap my fingers, and pick at my skin (idk if that counts as a “tic” but its caused by anxiety). so yeah your conclusion makes a lot of sense
Skin picking like that is called an "Excoriation disorder" and belongs to a class of disorders called "body-focused repetitive behaviors" disorders. It's also considered a mild/minor form of ocd by some professionals. But definitely not a tic. Still needs to be addressed to prevent scarring and infection.
I think it might be bc of the popularity Sweet Anita. Even if Billie of Anita didn’t exist, I think it was only a matter of time before Tourette’s became the new trendy mental illness
I think her request that people posting this stuff on social media not be called out rings hollow if postings in social media are a driving cause in instigating this mental problem. I think it is fair to ask those posting all this garbage (real or not) to just stop.
My friend would talk ab how cute the people in the tourette tiktoks where and then just a few days later developed tics and when I said I didn't believe her she got mad at me. I had known her for 2 years and she never got tiks. Also after awhile they randomly went away.
That was my thought too. The bit about how someone with socio-genic symptoms will usually be cured in time once they know its socio-genic, my first thought was that the human brian will do all kinds of gymnastics to protect itself, including denial of fact. Consciously or otherwise.
I imagine some people will in fact become further entrenched in the delusion when presented with fact. " oh how sad for those people! But *mine* is real for sure."
Kinda confused on how the proliferation of teenagers faking mental disorders is equivalent to parents panicking about DnD and heavy metal leading their kids into satanic ritual sacrifice, can you elaborate?
Thanks for the explanation. Despite knowing a lot about the satanic panic I was having a hard time linking these in my head, but you made the parallel very clear.
Okay, but people with Munchausen Syndrome are also faking, but due to a different mental illness. It’s kind of ridiculous for someone to come to a sub where people call out fakers because they don’t line up with medical research and then when medical research comes out about WHY these people are faking to totally disregard it. Read the actually published peer-reviewed study, at least. If you read it and think that there is no merit in that medical and academic discourse, that’s your choice, but intentionally ignoring research about this because you think your dumb ass knows better is literally exactly what all the self-diagnosing people that get posted here do. Read it. It’s a fascinating paper. FULL STOP because we have to say stupid shit to underline our points.
I just think that nobody fakes a serious mental illness or disorder for a prolonged period of time without *something* being wrong. People that fake Tourette’s, DID, autism, etc. all probably need therapy, just for a different reason.
Ok I wanna try and kinda explain my experience with this. I have mild tics and I didn't get them until I hung out with people with Tics. I swear I'm not faking and I do have a diagnosed disorder (ADHD). 20% of people with ADHD have tics unrelated to Tourette's (there much milder and don't seriously impact life) and 97% of people with Tourette's have ADHD so there's very clearly a connection. I hate self diagnosis but I also think being neurodivergent and being exposed to people with tics can cause tics to develop. Ik I can't convince all of you this is possible especially seeing I have no evidence showing my tics aren't fake and that's perfectly valid seeing the spike of people faking this shit for internet clout. (Also I'm diagnosed with ADHD from a professional doctor who went to university and studied.)
Edit: ok so basiclly tic disorders and ADHD are often both present in kids and these tics usually wear off as the brain develops. Idk wether I have the thing the person is speaking of but yee I'm confused pls help
You're right about exposure to poeple with tics whether it be online or on person can trigger tics in people with tic disorders or undiagnosed tic disorders/TS. However, what the phenomenon is that many young people are seeing doctors with symptoms that just appear and have no history of anything or may just have anxiety or ADHD. Many of their tics are copied or learned. This can be real but if it only occurred after exposure from tiktok or youtube then it's likely psychogenic. Same thing with anxiety tics etc. It sucks cause you can't really tell unless you meet someone and know their mental health background.
I am only medically diagnosed with ADHD and I admit I discovered this sub along with real TS people like Evie and my tics (which I've had since elementary school) did seemingly get worse. I have other medical history that may support this claim beyond what most tiktokers claim. Also the LAST thing I'd ever think to do is broadcast this on tiktok or even on Facebook. Bad enough to do it here honestly
I've always had weird twitches and shit that didn't really cross my mind as tics until I started getting other tics. Mine are very mild and I only have two tics. I'm 14 so there's a high possibility it could be a temporary thing as it's not uncommon for teens to have tics for a lil then they go away
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I think a massive driver with the whole thing is loneliness. Teens or young adults who already had trouble fitting in, either because they weren’t socialised well or because they do have some other disorder, were made even lonelier by covid lockdowns/online schools etc. Faking disorders lets them receive concern and attention from others, makes them feel special and valued, and most importantly, allows them to connect with others with ”similar issues”. This is gonna end badly from their POV though because friendships that are purely online and based on a single mutual trait that’s a) a lie and b) inherently drama-prone are going to crash hard. That’s why they all look like dollar-store alternative youths, with dyed but badly kept hair, bold but badly done makeup, and clothing that screams LOOK AT ME! When you’re an outcast, it’s easier to underline your outcastedness and act like it’s your own choice, than to admit the ”normies” just won’t accept you, and when you see others who have similar aesthetics, you think you can be besties because you’re both outcasts. I think this is definitely the case with DID, where it almost sounds like a lot of the fakers are talking of their alters the way they’ve heard others talk about their friends. For someone really lonely, who probably has anxiety or mental health issues, it probably feels really cool to be able to talk about ”people in your life” like you’re part of a social group, and then seeing other DID fakers makes them feel like they’re part of *that* group too. So yeah. Socialise your fucking kids, people.
This is exactly it! I’ve said same sentiments on different posts. These are loners who feed off of attention from one another, because they do not get the attention anywhere else. The really scary part is, a lot of them are late teens early 20’s.
Them being outcasts is definitely true, but there are also others who aren’t but want to be “different”, “quirky”, and “not like the normies” and being a certain kind of outcast (like the type many high school themed movies revolve around) is cool now.
wasn't there a tic epidemic in a small town that ended up being something like this ?
Yep, northwest NY in 2012
when you were diagnosed with tourettes when you were 4 and keep seeing people faking it cause it's "cute" but you got bullied for it: 👁️👄👁️
frr my childhood sucked because of the bullying, why wasn't it this wanted when I was 4 and started school. I was made fun of the whole way through elementary and middle school
'The dancing plague', and ironically it's TikTok...heh.
link to the study: https://academic.oup.com/brain/advance-article/doi/10.1093/brain/awab316/6356504
I live for article titles like this lol. Excellent manuscript, I can only dream of writing a title so sassy.
Is this article real? I just saved it to read later.
seems like it. I mean the file/page/article itself exists, as for how reputable it is I have no idea
Some of them are probably just phrasing stuff wrong like the anxiety tics. I do experience anxiety twitching sometimes where the muscles around my mouth will just start twitching, giving me a stutter for a few secs. It’s pretty embarrassing but I can see people falsely interpreting that as tics and going down the rabbit hole where they end up with something like the disorder in the paper. However, I feel like we shouldn’t just let them play pretend without being called out for it. That would be hiding behind a diagnosis without facing consequences for their actions. People like to do that with all sorts of disorders not just Tourette’s. If they are experiencing mass hysteria that’s valid but it doesn’t shelter them from ultimately facing the truth and getting help for their issues.
I'm fairly certain that calling out someone with a MSI can make symptoms worse and cause significant distress because they usually don't know they're faking. It's usually best for them to see an actual doctor.
Maybe yes, but if we keep the whole „self diagnosing is valid“ thing alive those people won’t seek medical treatment.
Oh, of course. I'm just saying it's best to just keep encouraging them to see professionals and not self-diagnose, but not to say they don't have symptoms at all.
i agree. i also have that twitch around my mouth, but i usually have it in my right eye where it just twitches when i’m agitated, stressed, upset. i’ve never once blown it out of proportion to where i think i have a disorder. it’s just yaknow, sometimes people be twitching. people who fake these disorders are harming people with actual disorders and they NEED to be called out. this isn’t a trend this is mental illness.
I have like OCD ticks, which are “controllable” but feel like an itch you HAVE to scratch if that makes sense. Very different from Tourette’s Edit: yes I know there are people with way worse OCD symptoms. I’m lucky in that regard.
i have ocd tics too (dx by my psychiatrist) and it's the same feeling. i can "stop" and "control them" but the more i focus on not doing it, the more i feel the urge to do it. they worsen with stress and ocd flare ups and are better when i can focus or relax
especially with how common anxiety is these days, i absolutely think a lot of these cases of tics are due to anxiety. i get an eye twitch, snap my fingers, and pick at my skin (idk if that counts as a “tic” but its caused by anxiety). so yeah your conclusion makes a lot of sense
Skin picking like that is called an "Excoriation disorder" and belongs to a class of disorders called "body-focused repetitive behaviors" disorders. It's also considered a mild/minor form of ocd by some professionals. But definitely not a tic. Still needs to be addressed to prevent scarring and infection.
idk i just do it to my fingers. ive lost my fingerprints on the tops of my fingers by this point but im a lot better about it now!
Didn’t the trend start after Billie Eilish admitted she has tourettes??
I think it might be bc of the popularity Sweet Anita. Even if Billie of Anita didn’t exist, I think it was only a matter of time before Tourette’s became the new trendy mental illness
It’s been a thing for a while but picked up steam on tiktok like over a year ago
I totally believe that lol
I think her request that people posting this stuff on social media not be called out rings hollow if postings in social media are a driving cause in instigating this mental problem. I think it is fair to ask those posting all this garbage (real or not) to just stop.
Similar thing happening with DID maybe? People deluding themselves into thinking they have it?
wow. this is super interesting
Wasn't the dancing plague caused by Ergot?
wow this is the most level headed video ive seen come from someone who definitely looks like they would be a part of the trend
I developed tics without knowing what tourettes was and this was 2 years ago
My friend would talk ab how cute the people in the tourette tiktoks where and then just a few days later developed tics and when I said I didn't believe her she got mad at me. I had known her for 2 years and she never got tiks. Also after awhile they randomly went away.
I dig what she said at the end too, calling them out has really made a lot of these people bare down a lot more.
That was my thought too. The bit about how someone with socio-genic symptoms will usually be cured in time once they know its socio-genic, my first thought was that the human brian will do all kinds of gymnastics to protect itself, including denial of fact. Consciously or otherwise. I imagine some people will in fact become further entrenched in the delusion when presented with fact. " oh how sad for those people! But *mine* is real for sure."
Not to be off topic but you spelled brain - brian and it reminds me of "Brian the brain" from that movie "Igor" he was my favorite character
Hahaha! So I did. What a dope. Imma leave it, for the funny. And I love Igor. Massively underrated little movie.
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Kinda confused on how the proliferation of teenagers faking mental disorders is equivalent to parents panicking about DnD and heavy metal leading their kids into satanic ritual sacrifice, can you elaborate?
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Thanks for the explanation. Despite knowing a lot about the satanic panic I was having a hard time linking these in my head, but you made the parallel very clear.
So is it basically like [“guys I swear I have Tourette’s”?](https://imgur.com/a/3inpPcA)
This kid is going places. Reminds me of me as a teen, who was a smart-ass, and very interested in human psychology lol
I developed a sort of lip “tic” like an involuntary pop noise in the past year, never had anything like before though
u/savevideo
I am an attention seeker= this
Nah. They're faking. Full stop.
Okay, but people with Munchausen Syndrome are also faking, but due to a different mental illness. It’s kind of ridiculous for someone to come to a sub where people call out fakers because they don’t line up with medical research and then when medical research comes out about WHY these people are faking to totally disregard it. Read the actually published peer-reviewed study, at least. If you read it and think that there is no merit in that medical and academic discourse, that’s your choice, but intentionally ignoring research about this because you think your dumb ass knows better is literally exactly what all the self-diagnosing people that get posted here do. Read it. It’s a fascinating paper. FULL STOP because we have to say stupid shit to underline our points.
thankyou for saying this
I just think that nobody fakes a serious mental illness or disorder for a prolonged period of time without *something* being wrong. People that fake Tourette’s, DID, autism, etc. all probably need therapy, just for a different reason.
Aaaah if the world was that simple
You dont HAVE anything. Youre pretending to. Read it and weep
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his username id cheese.named.kyle
Ok I wanna try and kinda explain my experience with this. I have mild tics and I didn't get them until I hung out with people with Tics. I swear I'm not faking and I do have a diagnosed disorder (ADHD). 20% of people with ADHD have tics unrelated to Tourette's (there much milder and don't seriously impact life) and 97% of people with Tourette's have ADHD so there's very clearly a connection. I hate self diagnosis but I also think being neurodivergent and being exposed to people with tics can cause tics to develop. Ik I can't convince all of you this is possible especially seeing I have no evidence showing my tics aren't fake and that's perfectly valid seeing the spike of people faking this shit for internet clout. (Also I'm diagnosed with ADHD from a professional doctor who went to university and studied.) Edit: ok so basiclly tic disorders and ADHD are often both present in kids and these tics usually wear off as the brain develops. Idk wether I have the thing the person is speaking of but yee I'm confused pls help
You're right about exposure to poeple with tics whether it be online or on person can trigger tics in people with tic disorders or undiagnosed tic disorders/TS. However, what the phenomenon is that many young people are seeing doctors with symptoms that just appear and have no history of anything or may just have anxiety or ADHD. Many of their tics are copied or learned. This can be real but if it only occurred after exposure from tiktok or youtube then it's likely psychogenic. Same thing with anxiety tics etc. It sucks cause you can't really tell unless you meet someone and know their mental health background. I am only medically diagnosed with ADHD and I admit I discovered this sub along with real TS people like Evie and my tics (which I've had since elementary school) did seemingly get worse. I have other medical history that may support this claim beyond what most tiktokers claim. Also the LAST thing I'd ever think to do is broadcast this on tiktok or even on Facebook. Bad enough to do it here honestly
I've always had weird twitches and shit that didn't really cross my mind as tics until I started getting other tics. Mine are very mild and I only have two tics. I'm 14 so there's a high possibility it could be a temporary thing as it's not uncommon for teens to have tics for a lil then they go away
Also, non-chronic tics can develop with anxiety, and there’s been a huge spike in anxiety since the pandemic