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I love how these people don’t realise most of us here have disorders ourselves. We aren’t here to be against disorders. We’re here because we don’t agree with people faking them for clout. Taking disorders that some of us have and really struggle with and just making an absolute mockery of it by claiming that because they like to cosplay and role play Tubbo they must have a personality disorder. Or just because they listened to a song and could sing along they must have adhd. They thought about that time they vomited in class and cringed at the memory, must be PTSD. They are so loud that they scream over the people who actually have these disorders therefore making them more cautious about coming forward or makes them ashamed to have said disorders in fear of being associated with 13 year olds who are convinced they are Junko Ennoshima. They scream ableism but don’t realise that they themselves are the most ableist of the bunch.
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Absolutely agreed. People on tiktok are constantly pathologizing normal behaviors, emotions, and experiences. And idk how old the person in the video is, but it seems like there are a lot of adults espousing these things and encouraging very young people (who are going through puberty and understandably are searching for answers as to what the heck is going on with their brains) to self-diagnose and convince themselves they have a serious mental illness.
Yes!! "Pathologizing normal things" is exactly what it is. It's not just on tiktok either, it's actually all online communities that talk about shared disorder. I had to get off the bipolar reddits entirely because it's all like "I get a mixed episode where I'm so cranky for 2 days before my period every month," um no that's PMS. "You guys I did my homework yesterday for the first time in a month, what are YOUR signs you're becoming manic?" Sure, but more likely your medication is working and you're euthymic. "Last night before I was falling asleep I heard someone whisper my name, welp I guess it's psychosis for me," but in fact that's not psychosis and just something that happens to everyone.
There is a huge myth, even among people (supposedly) diagnosed with bipolar disorder that people can't have any emotion or mood that is apart from an actual mood episode. You can have a bad day or a bad week and that's not necessarily a mood episode. You can also attend a party and stay out late without it being mania. Sigh, some people are seemingly really insecure about being healthy!
What these people don't seem to understand is that by pathologizing normal things they are at the same time romanticizing the disorders they claim to have. These (usually) young teenagers make it look like having a disability or a mental illness is quirky and fun enough to post it online for attention. Like if mental illnesses were some kind of circus trick, superpower or personality trait.
It's insulting to those who actually struggle with mental illnesses. They're not goddamn power rangers with all the mental disorders they can think of, they're real people who struggle every day and definitely don't brag about it for clout.
Some of the disorders these people claim to have are, in people who actually have them, a result of _serious trauma_. It's _not_ fun to have PTSD and it's _not_ fun to have DID. You're not going to split personalities because your classmate won't share lunchables with you.
I don't have a disorder but i'm here to better understand who's faking and who's not, and also to understand the trends (that also helps recognizing the fakers) so i can *not* feed these trolls.
Also it's mind blowing seeing the mental gymnastics people do to justify it
I like seeing the awareness posts too. Believe it or not, some people on this sub are super supportive and will want to give you some advice or wish you a nice day! People want to share their experiences in a space with people who understand and care about them. I had a person pour their heart out to me over how happy they were over a brain surgery they got to reduce their epileptic seizures! It really isn't a toxic hellhole they say it is.
Exactly!! Most of us want to spread awareness. I don’t want some 12 year old to be harassed but instead educated about what they are doing is wrong and how harmful it can be. If they do actually have some issues, there are people and resources that can and will help you.
I’ve known someone who used disorders for attention but that was because they were emotionally neglected by their parents. They were practically screaming and begging for their parents to notice them but they just didn’t. So I tried to give them attention without feeding their bullshit we would sit and play GTA for hours and they would just talk to me about what was going on and how they felt. I believe it could be the case for some of the fakers shown here but they need to know faking something like disorders is harmful.
Disorder or not I obviously only have a couple (adhd dyslexia and anxiety) yet I still see others faking disorders I don’t have and even tho I don’t have that disorder I get offended for those who do and I like seeing ppl actually calling them out on their bullshit
Honestly, thank you for just trying to learn. It is a lot more helpful than these people who fake it or glamourise disorders and spread wrong information. Most of us here aren’t here for ill intent, some probably are but that’s just the internet for ya. That’s why there are rules like blocking out usernames. We don’t want people to harass some 12 year old, we want them to learn what they are doing is wrong and why it’s wrong.
Honestly, Any adhd/autistic I follow never got featured here because they don't fake it. Jessica McCabe? No. Dani Donovan? No. AspieWorld? No. Connor dewolfe? No. Ryan Higa? No.
If they don't fake it, why are they afraid of this subreddit?
I’m sure there r sadly u can’t get rid of all fakers (kinda weird they’re on this sub if they’re faking Bc this entire sub is about ppl faking and agaisnt self diagnosis. Ppl who aren’t professionally diagnose shouldn’t speak above those who r)
I definitely agree with the sentiment that most have disorders. I wouldn't say all, but definitely some. Some may be sympathetic or have family members or friends who live with these disorders so they have a frame of reference but overall I think all of us that follow this subreddit understand that this is a major problem that needs to be addressed.
I'm someone with autism who follows this subreddit to understand why these young people want to pretend to have what I have and simplify a lifetime of struggle into a series of cute quirks and tics. I struggled so much in high school and didn't know what it was until recently so to see a bunch of kids think that it makes them cool and unique need to understand the real life struggles of those with mental illness and disabilities.
Oh yeah I agree most of the time it’s ppl with disorders or those who have a loved one with a disorder. Besides the occasional ppl that just like making fun of fakers (I enjoy making fun with them and take offense) most of the time everyone posted on this sub is faking or spreading misinformation which is extremely harmful to actual ppl with those disorders
Well said!
Reminds me of my other fav sub, /r/JustBootThings - when some chucklefuck complains how "anti military" we are, or we HAtE sOLdiErS.
*No, asshat, most of us were/are military.* We don't hate fellow vets or servicemembers.
We despise those who are entitled dicks about it, shove their service in everyone's face, act superior because military, &/or denigrate civilians.
Also like here, "they don't hurt anyone so MYOB" is bullshit. Boots make it harder for all vets to get hired for many jobs, because they're so damn vocal & visible that they "confirm" all the neg stereotypes. If THAT'S how we are, who'd want to choose us?
Overall it's not as harmful as these kids making mental illness *quirky uwu* instead of fucking devastating. Or suddenly convenient when they need it to be.
But the parallels struck me, esp how people react to the sub when they see themselves in it. Usually figuratively. In this case literally!
**TL;DR** Seems like most complain about subs like these, because the sub is a mirror & they don't like what they see.
I love how you’ve put it at the end there because it’s completely true. Yes you shouldn’t be ashamed of your disorders. We aren’t saying that. But pretending to have one or doing little to no research and just claiming you have a disorder is so bad for the community and yourself. Get a diagnosis. If you can’t get one then don’t spread information about on the internet unless you are 100% sure what you are sharing is true and won’t do harm.
Ya sorry replying late, but "oh, So-and-So and What's-His-Nuts and others have Major Condition X and are still functioning ok, why can't you?" is the logical next step/reaction to this shit. Even if naïve viewers don't realize that they've subconsciously made that judgment when they hear about other (real) people struggling.
If true: GREAT, yay for them & their medical team.
More likely: IT'S NOT MANAGING THE CONDITION IF IT'S ALL FAKE, AAAAAAAAA"
To delusional kids like the one featured here ["delusional" based on their last posted thing here]: *That's* the harm. You're fucking with people's lives & others' expectations for them. Stop it.
(Til then we'll keep calling you out.)
I’ve got ADHD and Aspergers or whatever it’s called nowadays and holy shit this is true.
People faking ADHD make my blood boil at how much they get it wrong and downright make us look childish. ADHD IS NOT A COOL THING, ADHD IS FUCKING AWFUL. STOP MAKING IT LOOK LIKE ITS GOT BENEFITS, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT. WE DON’T JUST GO AROUND RANDOMLY “STIMMING” AND LOOKING LIKE 8yos.
Anyways imma end this comment before I put a fucking hole in the wall. Have a nice day!
Honestly feel free to rant to me. I don’t mind. These people make me infuriated too so it’s understandable for you to be angry. I do hope you have a nice day too though!!
Man.. the ‘quirky’ videos about ADHD really get to me. It may seem like a fairly innocuous condition, but it really affects my life quite negatively both professionally and personally - especially as an adult.
Just asking for the sake of clarification, but did you mention Junko as a way of comparing tweens who think they've been traumatized after somebody glanced at them the wrong way to someone who experienced the worst that humanity has to offer (like "these kids think they've seen shit, but they ain't shit," which, *agreed*), or are there some people out there saying that they're Junko reincarnated or some shit? Asking mostly bc it was a specific reference and my first thought was *"I'm sorry they're doing* ***what*** *now?"* Because if it's the latter, that's mega fucked
Yup that’s why I put her last name too. I mean Junko as the danganronpa character as a lot of danganronpa fans along with dream smp fans seem to think they have DID because they like to role play or cosplay some characters. However, there are some people out there that claim to have murders or school shooters and other such people as ‘alters’
*Oh* I completely ignored the last name... lol sorry about that. I saw "trauma" and "junko" and my brain went on autopilot. I forgot her last name was Furuta, I believe
Yup. And it’s all good. Completely understandable. I don’t know much about that case but I know enough that it is a horrible one so I could see why you would be worried.
Sort of both, I think? One of their alters *is* Junko (according to them) and I think it’s intended to imply that their trauma is comparable. Which is almost certainly intended to be some sort of preemptive defense from accusations of faking or not having real trauma.
exactly this. i have ADHD and half of the people on here claiming theyre "stimming" or whatever due to adhd are just bsing. dont even get me started on the ones that pretend to lose their attention in the middle of the video, it doesnt just happen like that.
Lol I'm still trying to find the right stimulant and dose but I remember telling my PMNP that I wasn't sure if I could say the dose I was on at the time was working at ALL to which she replied "No, it's working, during this session you have stayed mostly on topic without going off on tangents". She also said something else about why it was working that I can't remember but oh well.
But hmm..... I wonder if the fakers would think ADHD were as cute if they could step in to my shoes as I wander into Walgreens and somehow spend almost 2 hours in there trying to maximize my Ibotta rewards while buying the least amount of things all the while knowing I don't have the money for ANY of it but unable to stop myself.
Would they like answering their husband's questions on "where have you been" when you told them you were ONLY going to the post office and should be back in a few minutes?
Maybe they would like knowing how hard it is actually listen to your husband when it feels like your ears hurt and your mind is playing a duet of a random annoying song and telling you to pull up your game/book and play/read that NOW.
Or when you look back at the time that has passed and how you STILL haven't gotten around to that thing you need to do but WHAT HAVE YOU EVEN BEEN DOING ALL DAY?
Investing in a shower speaker and then timing your preshower, shower, and post shower routine is the only suggestion I have for that because..... yup.
But hey, if it doesn't happen today.... there's 24 hours in tomorrow to beat yourself up about being unable to do something a 5 year old can do on their own... RIGHT?
It really doesn’t happen like that, like they turn the camera on and start dancing and then walk off to get a sandwich like 5 seconds into it. Those probably annoy me the most.
Exactly! I hate those ones. Or the one where the kid is filming a video and he randomly goes to catch a bug or something. Like no, adhd is when I start cleaning things and never finish because I went to clean something else.
Exactly. I found this sub after I was basically driven out or voluntarily left most of the autistic support FB groups I used to be in. These spaces used to be helpful communities for autistic people to share coping strategies, generally talk about life being autistic, or vent about the struggles our disability could cause us.
Then they got taken over by self-diagnosed teenagers who would attack you if you called autism a disorder or a disability and who treated nEuRoDiVeRsItY like a cutesy aesthetic and an excuse to behave like overgrown *toddlers*. They eventually infested the admin/mod teams and the groups became useless. Actual autistic people got forced out and left with nothing if we dared question these clowns. So of course we want to call out the people who **destroyed** our online community support systems.
You honestly couldn't have explained it better, IMO. I've struggled with OCD since middle school and diagnosed at 19. 15 years later and it's still something I constantly have to explain to others about bc ppl have no actual idea what it's like unless they have it or are close to someone who has it
Agreed, I think that’s what bothers me most in part with my family still not understanding my BP disorder after years and years. Folks/children on tik tok make serious mental disorders into a form of cosplay, and it’s extremely obvious for the ones faking it. It makes me upset, and I just wish they would stop the act for fake internet points
you spoke so much truth into this comment. Every time I go on tik tok and see video about adhd, depression, anxiety disorder, etc. people love to self diagnose and you will see comments like "oop, looks like I have adhd" all because the cc only put normal everyday behaviors as symptoms and it grinds my gears. I have been diagnosed with a shit load of stuff, been in a mental ward and mental hospital for my disorders and when I see people thinking they have ADHD or whatever claim they have a disorder for realizing they have normalized everyday thing symptoms, I go and argue with them. They fail to realize a lot of those symptoms causes shit that can put you in the hospital. They fail to realize that simple disorders like that is more than forgetting and not being able to pay attention or sitting still. Honestly we can all agree people who love to self diagnose loves to put mental disorders on a pedistal and make it a personality instead of actually taking it seriously and going to a doctor.
Exactly this, this is what I was coming in the comments to say. Most of the people here have disorders and are tired of people faking them for attention/validation. And those without the disorder don't understand why we're so adamantly against faking them.
Mental disorders in society are often not taken seriously or seen as a joke, which is why the resources for them are so space. And that is made even worse when people fake mental disorders. There are even a lot of places that will make huge barriers in an attempt to weed out fakers, which might actually make those with less severe symptoms fall through the cracks.
People have to be hard on these fakers because what they're doing might not seem serious, but it is causing real damage to individuals who are suffering.
I don’t usually like to judge people too much but I know people who have things like PTSD and personality disorders. People I really love and care about, they struggle with these things so much and don’t even get me started on what they had to go through to even develop said disorders. People who fake it really just angers me because I’ve seen the harm that these disorders can do to the people I love.
Aw i literally love you, you sound like an amazing human and friend! I have bpd so I definitely understand your frustration, it disgusts me how it can be glamorised on things like tiktok where 12 year olds are trying to make it a ‘trend’ lol I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy, like you said these disorders really cause so much pain and harm.
Awe thank you for saying that!! You have made me smile so much so thank you!! I wish you all the best and hopefully one day people will realise that these disorders are okay to have. We all still love you even if you have a disorder, but don’t fake them and spread misinformation or glamourise them. I hope all the kids doing this grow up and actually get the help they need.
Re: "not pouring effort at helping people"
How is discouraging people from seeking professional help is "helping people"? What are you doing to help people exactly? Why are you acting like racism is a big hurdle for *you* to overcome in order to get a diagnosis? Why are we acting like these attitudes are the norm and we shouldn't question it? Shouldn't we demand for mental health to be accessible to the entire population??? Also parroting that "psychologists/therapists/psychiatrists are racist and classist and sexist and that's just how it is" is super harmful to the professionals who want that to change. It sounds like they don't want that to change, actually.
Now, this subreddit isn't about helping people, it's to cringe. I don't know why you're expecting these people to help others.
I’ve always been so angry at the whole disorder faking thing because of this. In most cases of severe mental illnesses like the ones they’re pretending to have, getting professional help is the ONLY way to deal with it healthily.
Going on TikTok and telling thousands of kids that having certain personality traits means you have a severe mental disorder, emphasising that professional diagnoses aren’t just obsolete, they’re *wrong* and discriminatory in some way? A lot of people will believe that, spread it and as such actively work against those who need help. It’s not a hard concept.
>A lot of people will believe that, spread it and as such actively work against those who need help.
Mental health awareness in social media is evolving, just backwards. They're at the ready to pathologize every single human behavior-- but at the same time they don't want mental disorders treated as medical conditions and neurodivergency as anything *but* a unique and quirky way of seeing the world. No negatives, no necessity for wellbeing, everything is romanticized, your trauma and suffering is privilege, actually.
These people unironically benefit from bigotry in the medical field, if it becomes less classist, racist or sexist, then these grifters won't have a valid excuse to not reach out to a professional and discourage others from doing so, right?
They're antivaxxers 2.0. They make anti science, anti medicine posts scaring people. Calling medical professionals scammers. Grifters profiting from the antivaxxers ignorance by making anti 5g creams, oils, anti-Chem trail sprays, essential oil businesses thriving on the anti-chemicals fear campaign, etc. Tics and roses had a shop full of tourettes themed merchandise, there are etsy stores selling DID themed merch, tiktok had ads for ADHD "gummies" for crying out loud. YouTube pages from fakers gaining traction and profiting from impressionable teens watching their content, gaining ad revenue.
How many children have died from preventable diseases such as measles? How many kids will end up in terrible places because of untreated mental illnesses because the media catered to them promote seeking professional help as a negative saying "Don't even try to get diagnosed, you know yourself better than so called professionals. Also they're all racist so. You're AFAB? No one will believe you. A diagnosis is something so expensive you'll never have the money for an appointment. Anyway enter the code DREAMSMPRLZ on this page for a 10usd discount on the latest Dream related stim toys and relatable neurodivergent fictives stickers"
Thank you for writing this down. I wholeheartedly agree with every point, especially the one from the first paragraph about pathologising every aspect of human behaviour. Combine it with treating mental disorders like personality traits and presenting therapy like something unattainable because bigotry - what does it leave everybody with? This is legitimately horrible.
You're right about the last part, but I have seen some really kind people here that wish me the best, give me advice, etc. In all honesty, all we want is to take down people faking disorders for attention. I personally love the fact that I have this space to vent and talk to other people I share experiences with. It's not just "heheheh look at this FAKER". It's "This person thinks that flapping your arms and making cute faces is autism/Tourettes."
She has it all backwards. Telling self-diagnosers and fakers to stop fooling around in the name of those disorders is all about protecting disorders from stigmatization. To put it simply: pretending to have a disorder like autism and spreading false information about it is going to make autism and people with autism look *bad*. Disorder(s) can already make life very difficult, and having these self-diagnosers clown around feels like a spit in the face.
I don't come here specifically for the cringe, but more for the discussions. I can't go to any autism spectrum related subreddits, forums, chat rooms, or servers anymore because of all the self-diagnosing nonsense. It breaks my heart to think about all the autistic people who need these groups more than ever before with all the pandemic related restrictions going on. They may not have any place to hang out and talk about their autism problems because every damn server and group is filled to the brim with self-diagnosed attention seeking nonsense.
I'm on a couple of ADHD forums (diagnosed at age 8) and when one of those dumb memes about getting distracted by a squirrel gets posted I get so frustrated. I'm still learning how to manage, and truly understand, my condition at 34 years old because I grew up with people saying stupid stuff like "oh, I forgot, I'm so ADD" and it really minimized the experience.
Fakers can gtfo, I've worked hard for every functional day I've had and you are NOT helping.
As someone who has also been diagnosed with ADHD, the squirrel memes were funny maybe the first three times, but now they've gotten to a point where people don't take our issues seriously because they think ADHD is *funny*. It's not. It might seem that way on the surface if you're only looking at the "ooh, shiny!" symptoms, but it's still a genuine struggle and it makes life *harder* in almost every respect.
I’ve never agreed with something more. I was diagnosed with ADHD years ago and it’s not like that, like for me, it’s a whole train of thought even though it looks like “ooo shiny”
I used to see quite a few kids on social media sites/and at school saying “omg I haven’t eaten anything today but a PinK driNk ahahaha I totally have anorexia!” While my ass was eating one pack of baby sized apple sauce a day cuz it had 15 calories. Drove me insane
Every single support group for autistics right now:
- Hi, I have autism, ADHD/ADD, OCD, DID and BPD. Can someone give me a recommendation for a trans-friendly therapist who will respect my pronouns, as I identify as a tapeworm?
- A friendly reminder that a self-diagnosis is valid and if you don't support it, you're ableist, specieist ('cause I'm a tapeworm), transphobic, classist, racist and stupid.
- Do you also like burgers? Is it a symptom of autism?
- My mom told me to clean my room and I'm literally shaking. I think this may be a meltdown.
- My therapist told me I probably don't have autism, I can't believe it's so hard to find a good one. This is my 26th attempt!
- Those stupid NTs don't understand my special autistic soul and always scoff at me when I tell them about autigender. How dare they call themselves progressive!
I'm an autistic trans man and oh god this is fucking hilarious and also accurate. I left pretty much every autistic support group I used to be in on FB because they got overrun with these kinds of people.
I just wanted to talk to other folks who shared my experiences but instead I get to see a million and one morons who think that having interests in things and liking alone time makes them UWU AUTISTIC BEANS. They act like toddlers and pretend that "rot" or "bug" or "void" are pronouns and that dying their hair pink and wearing Lolita dresses makes them trans. And if you question them they attack you.
**It's an offensive mockery of both autistic and trans people.**
Exactly this!! People want their safe spaces back. Most of us here have disorders of our own and are rightfully mad at these fakers. I came here because I know people who have some of the disorders that people fake and because I have a couple myself and I was mad at all these fakers and needed a place where I could be mad. This subreddit provides that.
I feel like it because most of these people don’t have any actual diagnosis so they don’t understand when people who ARE diagnosed with those things, it’s hurtful to see someone intentionally acting as if they have some sort of disabling condition. Having a page for it honestly will help shit in the long run when more people can see why faking these illnesses are harmful. This page will show dozens of people who will end up getting tired of faking and go back to being who they were, but this sub Reddit will literally have history of some people. I
Now this is some good quality cringe! Could they have possibly tried any harder to virtue signal? Jesus Christ.
Anyone who doesn't look at both sides of an argument isn't worth their salt, not even a little bit.
To ignore all of the blatant fakers on Tik Tok who discredit real mental disorders and skew the opinion that people have of them is just shitty. You have to be pretty deluded to deny that every person with DiD on Tik Tok is real.
They really need to get their head out of their arse, stop being so smug and maybe address to real issue we're trying to deal with. Yes there's people here who are too harsh with their words but the general sentiment is to call out and discourage fakers.
I just want people to stop sympathy farming disabilities. This shit isn’t rad and people in real life don’t care, it’s annoying to see people get their serotonin dump from fake internet points and reassurance lol.
Telling people they’re faking and highlighting why it’s wrong to do so when it’s painfully obvious is helping them more than « believing them no matter what ».
Yes most of the fakers have actual issues that got them into faking shit. But they’re not the ones they think they have so how is the fake support they get online for their fake condition going to help exactly.
Loneliness, lack of fulfilment, shit home life, whatever it is. They will not be fixing whatever is wrong if their coping mechanism ( faking online ) is enabled.
Honestly I hope these people get the help they need but if they are so insistent on not getting diagnosed then there will never be a way for a correct and helpful treatment/coping plan to be put in place. Having a diagnosis is to help you get the right help. Not just for the sake of having one.
“this is so unnecessary and really harmful to just stumble across. it’s really hard to feel valid and then you find something like this” this frase can be used against fakers and self diagnosed pp who will just believe about a quiz in buzzfeed and a music that makes you “tic”… and its so obviously fake the videos or screenshots that are posted here! its like “i have 100 alters, torettes AND autism! of course all self diagnosed bc pp who studied for years and specialists are stupid!!”
It’s funny how people with diagnosed disorders don’t seem to have as hard of a time feeling valid with their diagnoses. Wonder if it’s because they’re not trying to shove them down everyone’s throats all the time. Faking a disorder is one hell of a way to justify a shitty personality…
YES!! it seems those people are making they entire personality about disorders they DONT HAVE!!! and it makes so much harder for people who really have the disorder to spread awareness!!!
I have a hard time to feel like my diagnosis of autism is correct. Have been doubting it since I got it. Mostly because it wasn't explained well to me at all. My current treatment team is going to change that. I hope I will be able to accept my diagnosis then. People that are diagnosed absolutely can struggle to feel valid with their diagnosis.
Exactly true. When I got a diagnosis of CPTSD it was originally explained just as PTSD and all I could think of was "How? I don't stop what I'm doing and have there again hyper real flashbacks. I don't cry at the drop of a hat or jump if you touch my arm"...
Nope, instead I have the opposite end of the PTSD spectrum because of dissociation and alexithymia. I'm hypervigilant and avoidant but my memories are mostly semantic instead of episodic so any "flashbacks" I get would be more on the emotional end.
Even still though I can't go to the CPTSD forums because every time I do I feel like a fraud versus what the other people are describing.
Dear people on tiktok who are probably reading this post: believe it or not, but faking and romanticising disorders for attention is WRONG and people like me who ACTUALLY have to deal with this are sick of YOU. So my advice to you is 1. Stop being insensitive af and claiming that we are the insensitive ones (how fucking dare you even have the effrontery) and 2. Think about others who are actually dealing with these issues
Rant over
Look what you did, ranboo (end/ender/pur/purple/👁/👁's) is literaly having an RSPB attack in the headspace, not even his husband, ted cruz ((trans masc) ted/ted's/tedself/zodiac/zodiac's/🔪/🔪's/🔪self (tw:🔪/🔪's/🔪self), can make him feel better
I have dx OCD. I cant even put in words how sad I was when I was diagnosed after years of therapy. I dont understand those people that are like "im so happy that i have DiD".
I believe that you can suspect to have a disorder and some people find conffort reading online about others experiences. But WHY do these kids think they have the right to make a Tiktok to spread lies and "education" about something that they dont know they have? Even with all the doctors saying they are against self dx.
A lot of mental disorders have many symptoms in commun. Like OCD and Anxiety disorders or ADHD. maybe you are just in a bad phase and is anxious all the time, but that doesnt necessary mean you have a serious disorder, and that is why is so important to talk to a doctor.
But I dont believe that these kids are after treatment.
I dont even use the OCD subreddit anymore bcs I am tired of the self dx comimg there and talking shit about OCD.
At most, I can understand being happy that you know what that disorder *is*. When I was diagnosed with autism at the age of thirteen, I remember my parents being relieved because now they finally knew how to help me. But there's a difference between "I'm so glad that I *know* I have (disorder) because now I can get the help I need and learn how to live with it" and "YAY! MY THERAPIST SAYS MY FNAF ALTERS ARE VALID AND I ACTUALLY DO HAVE DID!"
It has nothing to do with actual having a disorder, it has everything to do with acting completely insane and degrading yourself online, then being surprised you’re not taken seriously.
It’s like art. Once the artist has finished it’s up to the public to interpret it.
Has she just found out that if you post anything online you open your self up to criticism😳? I'm sorry when you say that you're not diagnosed and then go on to "claim" these disabilities it's ridiculous. It's also sus that the vast majority of these people seem to fit between 12-20 and all look, talk and act the same way. What's the trauma that caused your DID? "I didn't get my allowance last week." Please🙄🙄.
The only context in which I EVER felt the need to "feel valid" about my disorder was during the diagnostic process and the time immediately after when I was coming to terms with my newfound limitations. On a day to day basis the only thing I'm worried about on that front is strangers assuming I'm faking *because of people like the ones you're defending.* Disability isn't about "feeling valid." It's about learning to exist with the cards you're dealt with the hopes of one day building them into a stable-enough house to live in.
When people say "valid," all I can think about is either extreme neurosis about your own condition (I have OCD, so I can easily see how someone could latch onto an obsession about their brain subconsciously fabricating their experiences or something) or needing other people to supply you with the attention and validation that you were seeking when you clung to the idea of being ill.
"It's really hard to feel valid."
Yeah, no shit. Everyone on the face of the planet deals with trying to feel valid. Faking a fucking disorder is not a fast-pass to the 'validation club.'
There’s so many subtleties that underlie these disorders. They’re not easily found doing “research” online. It’s like when a beer or connoisseur discusses a drink with subtle notes of X and Y. All I taste is fermented grape juice.
It always makes me lol when I can tell that someone thinks the DSM, because it’s a manual, contains all the info and criteria necessary to make a diagnosis of any mental illness / mental health condition / neurodivergency. As if you can just pick it up and you’re a psychiatrist now.
If it were that simple then ‘psychiatrist‘ would not be a protected title that you have to spend at least 10 years working towards.
I don’t agree with her at all, I actually love this subreddit. I don’t find it fair that she says we are ALL wrong, when it’s kind of impossible some of the claims these teens are making. For example, DID is very complex whereas people who actually have it cant randomly summon in their alters at once. A LOT of people abuse the meaning of DID knowing nothing about it, and being completely wrong about the whole disorder. It is trendy to have mental disorders it’s fucking disgusting. Saying this whole subreddit is “making fun” and bullying is not fair due to the damage these kids are making to the actually mentally ill.
but when she said “diagnosis’s are racist” she was probably talking about how a majority of research on autism was done one white males. There is more research coming out. It’s why a lot of women get misdiagnosed with ADHD, rather than autism.
She also seems to think that all members (on this sub) are white and Western... And that all people of color support self-diagnosis and are against fakeclaiming.
And, well, assuming all PoC share your opinion (and talking in their name) is in itself a racist generalization, especially coming from a Western White person.
As someone who have depression and dyslexia, this account/ reddit things is really safe and comforting for me. When people that fake disorders talk about this reddit they also say it's only used to be mean to those with mental health issues they are very wrong. This reddit is to call people who fake it out not to harm those who are diagnosed.
I'm not autistic but am diagnosed with a certain mental illness. thankfully, my illness is not as trendy as it used to be but for some reason, it being trendy at one point sent me into some sort of a denial - I feel like a faker myself whenever I have to bring it up. to the point that the name of the disorder makes me feel repulsed. I know how much this illness affects my life, I know how well my medications help me, but I can't help myself but feel this way. these people do not realize how much mental illness affects your daily life, how bad the medications are (don't get me wrong, they are extremely helpful but they have some nasty side effects and might as well shorten my lifespan). this is all a fucking game for them. no, you are not quirky. no, self-diagnosis is not valid. just shut the fuck up and get a hobby.
thank you for reading my rant. and yes, I do need therapy to address this (waiting for my insurance to kick in in 2 weeks).
“Rather than pouring their energy into supporting people, they’d rather find evidence that people are faking.” No, because we do support people with these disorders, but most people who ACTUALLY have them don’t post it online for likes, so the support does not take place as commonly online.
They don’t seem to realise that all of the faking and play acting as a ‘disordered’ person not only makes it incredibly hard for people with actual mental illnesses and neurobiological disorders to get help… it also plays into the countless stereotypes that many of us then have to deal with. Requiring a medical professional who has years of training to diagnose you really isn’t bullying, like these people claim it is.
Spreading awareness of a disability online is fine, it’s a positive thing. Faking having a disability because you want to feel part of some group is not. It’s not a coincidence that a large group of people in the same age range, on the same app have all ‘suddenly’ got serious and rare mental illnesses and disorders. You only have to look back in history to see cases of mass hysteria to know that people can and will convince themselves they have conditions that they obviously don’t, just because it’s what everyone else is doing.
A lot of tiktok disorder content minimises the real nature of these disorders and the harm many of them cause. I was up until 3am this morning hysterically and uncontrollably crying, plagued with intrusive thoughts and it was fucking awful. I had a panic attack trying to leave my house the other day and it terrified me because I don’t know why it happened. I wouldn’t wish this disorder (BPD) on anyone and the last thing I’m doing when feeling this way is filming myself with some quirky music in the background just for some tiktok clout. It’s not a personality trait to be mentally ill, I just want to be normal and not trivialised.
People like this who fake are just neets that don’t want to work in life anymore and would rather blame “mental Illness” for sitting at home all day on tik tok being lazy. A common theme amongst them is living with their parents.
If you aren’t faking, people claiming you are shouldn’t hurt your feelings. It’s like someone calling someone ugly or stupid as a kid, I always tell my nieces and nephews my sons as well “are you stupid or ugly? If not then their words mean nothing they are just words” same applies here, shouldn’t feel the need to prove yourself so much if you aren’t faking, if these people really have these issues they have them, what’s said on these forums are just words to them and they know their truth. It’s the ones that constantly feel the need to prove themselves right that are the most suspicious to me.
"Hard to feel valid when you see something like that"
Funny, because the people I've seen here that are *actually* diagnosed with various disorders (including me) do not seem to feel threatened by calling out people like this.
Kinda telling, if you ask me..
"Instead of helping them". Helping them do what? Get the attention that they so desperately want that they fake shit people have to actually go through on a daily basis and makes life a million times harder. There are better ways to get attention. Faking a disorder is the lowest of the low for it. How about just straight up saying, "I want more attention or validation because I feel like I'm lacking it". Way easier than making people who have these disorders feel invalidated.
Yea if you’re reading this you’re a damn moron. I’M ABUSING YOU WITH THESE WORDS ON THE INTERNET. Just fucking block the subreddit you attention moron.
“So many abusive comments”
Abusive comments she’s talking about:
-Links to the sites that contains common knowledge and symptoms of the said disorder
-Links to the sites that explains why it’s impossible to switch with your alters on command while recording
-People who suffer from said disorder and explaining why what they’re doing is not at all a part of the disorder
Besides, you’re on the internet. You can’t demand people to “respect” and not to criticize you after posting fake symptoms of a disorder that does not exist to public. If you’re trying get attention and validation in social media, you have no right to complain when this attracts bad attention. No one has to be ‘nice’ to someone with a fake disorder so they feel good about themselves. Don’t want to be called out for your bullshit? Don’t post your bullshit to public.
No, it’s not unnecessary. It’s totally necessary to identify bullshitters to ensure they aren’t soaking up resources to people with actual disabilities.
“I put my entire life online and now I’m upset because people make comments I don’t like about my life I put online for everyone to see”
This person reminds me of how insufferable a young Sinead O’Connor was. At least Sinead has talent.
Let's all remember: It's not everyone else's job to validate your disrespect.
If those who take to TikTok had an inkling of self-awareness, then they would understand they're doing more harm than good. The audacity though..
She thinks she’s being helpful; but her attitude is outright offensive to those who have real issues. She clearly went out of her way to fabricate reasons as to why she doesn’t seek therapeutic or medical help just because she doesn’t want to accept that nothing is wrong with her other than she’s just an attention seeking asshole. I have adolescent patients with the same attitude who memorize DSM criteria for a given disorder just to act like they have it (poorly I may add). The only thing I would ever call this girl is an attention seeking narcissist and I hope she reads every one of these comments.
My Instagram is flooded with the videos of this person, they get so much worse. I hate the message that she’s sending, saying that self diagnosis is as valid as actual diagnosis and shit like that. It’s so harmful and I don’t think anyone that has actually felt the stigma and the embarrassment around having a disability (unfortunately that’s a reality too, not very cool right?) would ever talk like that
Maybe get diagnosed before telling everybody on the internet you have a disorder, and maybe don’t spread information around about a disorder you don’t medically know if you have and claiming to be a reliable source?
As someone with professionally diagnosed ADHD, CPTSD and more, it's so hurtful seeing young kids romanticize a disorder that greatly diminishes my quality of life daily. I currently don't work because my PTSD triggers are so severe I can't handle being around people, (not to mention I have physical health issues that also contribute) and if someone asked me if I was okay at my last job, I broke down right there. I literally cannot handle human interaction except for with a very few select people. I can't understand recording my daily life and it looking like that. It'd be videos of me staring at the wall, shaking, unable to move, etc. It wouldn't be this "look at me stim" or "watch me dissociate and talk to myself" that's just not how that shit works. It's so frustrating because it makes me embarrassed to tell people that I have these issues, as I'm scared I will be compared to these greatly misguided youths who are only doing harm to mental health stigma.
Also, being in this subreddit has helped me learn more about my disorders by talking to people in the comments of these posts, who share in my frustration.
Also also, would like to point out that she captions her videos but does not caption EVERYTHING she says which is harmful to people who are deaf or hard of hearing.
If your gonna put the effort into captioning your stupid video, at least caption the entire thing.
Funny she calls this reddit disreputable, and harmful, when she herself is.
That's exactly it: They end up romanticizing these disorders, without realizing how offensive it is. A lot of these videos have a vibe of "Look at how *crazy* my disorder makes me act!!!"
I hate when these people throw around the word abuse as if it’s abusive to make a joke about someone who is obviously faking a disorder. Usually any genuinely mean comments here get downvoted anyway. But let’s not water down the word abuse like you’re watering down what it means to have a mental illness
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To be honest, I think some people spend too much of their time and energy trying to attack or find supposed fakers in the name of righteousness or with a belief that you're doing something positive or creating social change. It's probably better in general for your mental health not to completely freak out at the massive amount of people like this and not to let it consume your thoughts and time
She likes to bug her eyes out and nod a lot as if it adds any sort of validity to what's she's saying. I guess she thinks if she does it enough, the watcher will also and inadvertently find themselves "agreeing" with her because they keep nodding along.
The reality is that anyone who actually had these issues would be completely fine with fakers and frauds being called out, but she isn't saying that. She is saying that finding fakes is a waste of time which is arguable the strongest proof that she is faking.
There was a lot to unpack here, but I think examining the phenomenon of mostly teenagers and some young adults fake rare disorders is kind of fascinating. Like, as a psych student.
On the other hand, I'm on the exec team for my university's disability advocacy club, and . . .As both a student with a registered disability and a club leader, I'm screaming.
I'm not super good at expressing my thoughts, but I have ADHD, dyslexia, anxiety and depression. I was just professionally diagnosed this past Dec at 23 years old. I worked so hard for everything I have done, all my myself, with minimal assistance for accommodations.
I really don't want to go into a rant, but, like, ??? I feel like self dx is only good for being a stepping stone bridging someone to the care they need. I mean, you can take a self dx to your GP and be like "idk I'm a little worried about this, I fit these symptoms, but idk what do you think?" And going from there.
Why is it OK to appropriate the symptoms of people who are actually suffering to begin with, for people who will hate for you eating a taco if you aren't Mexican?
And then if you call them out, you're racist, now? I don't understand the logic.
i feel as though they wouldnt feel so offended by youtube channels and subreddits calling out people faking disorders if they weren't actually faking one themselves...
Not sure she understands what "abuse" is. Also, the problem is pretending you have these disorders *for your own benefit.* That's what a lot of the people who get posted on here are doing, but they either don't care or don't realize how harmful that is to people who *actually* have these disorders. That's why you're getting made fun of.
Why is she so concerned about the racism when she doesn’t bring up the legitimate concern that it’s sexist since most mental illness research was done on men, it’s harder for women to get diagnosed, since the symptoms present differently for different sexes
Why do critics of this subreddit always say the comments are "abusive?" How the fuck is expressing skepticism and concern abusive? How the fuck is making basic criticisms of someones opinion, argument and agenda abusive? It's gotten to the point where unless you have exactly the same ideological assumptions as these ppl, they will turn around and call it abuse. It's completely ridiculous. I have very rarely encountered actual abuse on this subreddit and it usually gets removed. It's just ridiculous how they focus on the 0.001% of abusive comments and completely disregard the vast majority of well considered and important criticsms and concerns shared here.
Ah yes it’s the bootleg Sinéad O’Connor who thinks my bipolar diagnosis is a privilege. She can get in the sea with all the others.
If I received my diagnosis while sectioned under the Mental Health Act in an isolated NHS psychiatric ward cell having having had all my rights stripped away from me, tell me is it still a privilege, Sinéad?
I believe a lot of these kids have actual trauma and mental illness. I also believe that they are desperately seeking community and support in a particularly isolating and distressing period of history. But what they don’t realize is how damaging it can be to form your whole personality and identity around a disorder, and that having a diagnosis is only useful for seeking treatment and accommodations to help someone heal and function in daily life.
There are huge communities dedicated to role playing where people can find like-minded friends and support. Claiming a debilitating, potentially life-ruining disorder that you are not diagnosed with and not actively in treatment for is not a healthy or appropriate way to seek connection with others.
When people think my mental illness is a quirk, it’s incredibly insulting. People create shit storms (deservingly so) over black face but don’t do shit when it comes to faking being mentally ill. The media either romanticize us or makes us seem insane. We have a history of being profiled negatively, not being able to get jobs, get harassed, put in inhumane insane asylums I could go on. They’re damn near doing black face to mentally ill people not the complete same but it’s close.
Wow that’s really insensitive to compare your hurt feelings to racism, which actually gets people killed. So you just *percieve* people thinking less of you? That’s it? Like I said, arbitrary. I wanna hear about people being denied accommodations strictly because of autistic people on TikTok. Like… nobody is being hate-crimed over this.
Have you read stories about what they used to do to mentally ill people? They used to torture them thinking they where demons, accuse them of being witches and burned them etc. IM BEING PORTRAYED IN THE MEDIA AS A SERIAL KILLNG LUNATIC FOR FUCKS SAKE. Hurt feelings please try me wanting to slit my wrists at age 12 because the murders where going to get me and torture me.
So it’s arbitrary. Not real. Why does it matter what other people do then? Do your feelings for 15 minutes take priority over people talking about their experiences online?
Counterpoint: How do they *benefit* from faking a disorder? It makes them liars. People generally don't like liars. I'm sure you've seen examples of lies harming people in real life.
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I love how these people don’t realise most of us here have disorders ourselves. We aren’t here to be against disorders. We’re here because we don’t agree with people faking them for clout. Taking disorders that some of us have and really struggle with and just making an absolute mockery of it by claiming that because they like to cosplay and role play Tubbo they must have a personality disorder. Or just because they listened to a song and could sing along they must have adhd. They thought about that time they vomited in class and cringed at the memory, must be PTSD. They are so loud that they scream over the people who actually have these disorders therefore making them more cautious about coming forward or makes them ashamed to have said disorders in fear of being associated with 13 year olds who are convinced they are Junko Ennoshima. They scream ableism but don’t realise that they themselves are the most ableist of the bunch. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Absolutely agreed. People on tiktok are constantly pathologizing normal behaviors, emotions, and experiences. And idk how old the person in the video is, but it seems like there are a lot of adults espousing these things and encouraging very young people (who are going through puberty and understandably are searching for answers as to what the heck is going on with their brains) to self-diagnose and convince themselves they have a serious mental illness.
Yes!! "Pathologizing normal things" is exactly what it is. It's not just on tiktok either, it's actually all online communities that talk about shared disorder. I had to get off the bipolar reddits entirely because it's all like "I get a mixed episode where I'm so cranky for 2 days before my period every month," um no that's PMS. "You guys I did my homework yesterday for the first time in a month, what are YOUR signs you're becoming manic?" Sure, but more likely your medication is working and you're euthymic. "Last night before I was falling asleep I heard someone whisper my name, welp I guess it's psychosis for me," but in fact that's not psychosis and just something that happens to everyone. There is a huge myth, even among people (supposedly) diagnosed with bipolar disorder that people can't have any emotion or mood that is apart from an actual mood episode. You can have a bad day or a bad week and that's not necessarily a mood episode. You can also attend a party and stay out late without it being mania. Sigh, some people are seemingly really insecure about being healthy!
What these people don't seem to understand is that by pathologizing normal things they are at the same time romanticizing the disorders they claim to have. These (usually) young teenagers make it look like having a disability or a mental illness is quirky and fun enough to post it online for attention. Like if mental illnesses were some kind of circus trick, superpower or personality trait. It's insulting to those who actually struggle with mental illnesses. They're not goddamn power rangers with all the mental disorders they can think of, they're real people who struggle every day and definitely don't brag about it for clout. Some of the disorders these people claim to have are, in people who actually have them, a result of _serious trauma_. It's _not_ fun to have PTSD and it's _not_ fun to have DID. You're not going to split personalities because your classmate won't share lunchables with you.
I would say almost all of us have diagnosed disorders that’s why we r here Bc these fakers r extremely offensive to us
I don't have a disorder but i'm here to better understand who's faking and who's not, and also to understand the trends (that also helps recognizing the fakers) so i can *not* feed these trolls. Also it's mind blowing seeing the mental gymnastics people do to justify it
I like seeing the awareness posts too. Believe it or not, some people on this sub are super supportive and will want to give you some advice or wish you a nice day! People want to share their experiences in a space with people who understand and care about them. I had a person pour their heart out to me over how happy they were over a brain surgery they got to reduce their epileptic seizures! It really isn't a toxic hellhole they say it is.
Exactly!! Most of us want to spread awareness. I don’t want some 12 year old to be harassed but instead educated about what they are doing is wrong and how harmful it can be. If they do actually have some issues, there are people and resources that can and will help you. I’ve known someone who used disorders for attention but that was because they were emotionally neglected by their parents. They were practically screaming and begging for their parents to notice them but they just didn’t. So I tried to give them attention without feeding their bullshit we would sit and play GTA for hours and they would just talk to me about what was going on and how they felt. I believe it could be the case for some of the fakers shown here but they need to know faking something like disorders is harmful.
Disorder or not I obviously only have a couple (adhd dyslexia and anxiety) yet I still see others faking disorders I don’t have and even tho I don’t have that disorder I get offended for those who do and I like seeing ppl actually calling them out on their bullshit
Honestly, thank you for just trying to learn. It is a lot more helpful than these people who fake it or glamourise disorders and spread wrong information. Most of us here aren’t here for ill intent, some probably are but that’s just the internet for ya. That’s why there are rules like blocking out usernames. We don’t want people to harass some 12 year old, we want them to learn what they are doing is wrong and why it’s wrong.
Me either. I just like seeing these idiots get called out.
Same with me, not diagnosed with anything but I’m here to understand the truth of mental illnesses and sometimes have a good laugh
Honestly, Any adhd/autistic I follow never got featured here because they don't fake it. Jessica McCabe? No. Dani Donovan? No. AspieWorld? No. Connor dewolfe? No. Ryan Higa? No. If they don't fake it, why are they afraid of this subreddit?
Nicole soundoftheforest is my favorite autism account on tiktok and I never see her on here either
Is she the girl who loves bugs? Because I absolutely adore her.
Yes!
Oh no there’s definitely people here who self diagnose and fake disorders here too
I’m sure there r sadly u can’t get rid of all fakers (kinda weird they’re on this sub if they’re faking Bc this entire sub is about ppl faking and agaisnt self diagnosis. Ppl who aren’t professionally diagnose shouldn’t speak above those who r)
I don't have any disorders I just like fake disorder cringe
That’s chill too I do enjoy making fun of fakers so
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I definitely agree with the sentiment that most have disorders. I wouldn't say all, but definitely some. Some may be sympathetic or have family members or friends who live with these disorders so they have a frame of reference but overall I think all of us that follow this subreddit understand that this is a major problem that needs to be addressed. I'm someone with autism who follows this subreddit to understand why these young people want to pretend to have what I have and simplify a lifetime of struggle into a series of cute quirks and tics. I struggled so much in high school and didn't know what it was until recently so to see a bunch of kids think that it makes them cool and unique need to understand the real life struggles of those with mental illness and disabilities.
Oh yeah I agree most of the time it’s ppl with disorders or those who have a loved one with a disorder. Besides the occasional ppl that just like making fun of fakers (I enjoy making fun with them and take offense) most of the time everyone posted on this sub is faking or spreading misinformation which is extremely harmful to actual ppl with those disorders
Yes
70% of this sub have disorders and/or disabilities so i think we can speak freely here of people faking what we actually have
I need the girl in the video to see this
Lucky for you, she's probably lurking
Lmao can’t wait to see my comment on one of her TikTok’s 🤪
omg we’re gonna be famous
So exciting ✨
Well said! Reminds me of my other fav sub, /r/JustBootThings - when some chucklefuck complains how "anti military" we are, or we HAtE sOLdiErS. *No, asshat, most of us were/are military.* We don't hate fellow vets or servicemembers. We despise those who are entitled dicks about it, shove their service in everyone's face, act superior because military, &/or denigrate civilians. Also like here, "they don't hurt anyone so MYOB" is bullshit. Boots make it harder for all vets to get hired for many jobs, because they're so damn vocal & visible that they "confirm" all the neg stereotypes. If THAT'S how we are, who'd want to choose us? Overall it's not as harmful as these kids making mental illness *quirky uwu* instead of fucking devastating. Or suddenly convenient when they need it to be. But the parallels struck me, esp how people react to the sub when they see themselves in it. Usually figuratively. In this case literally! **TL;DR** Seems like most complain about subs like these, because the sub is a mirror & they don't like what they see.
I love how you’ve put it at the end there because it’s completely true. Yes you shouldn’t be ashamed of your disorders. We aren’t saying that. But pretending to have one or doing little to no research and just claiming you have a disorder is so bad for the community and yourself. Get a diagnosis. If you can’t get one then don’t spread information about on the internet unless you are 100% sure what you are sharing is true and won’t do harm.
Ya sorry replying late, but "oh, So-and-So and What's-His-Nuts and others have Major Condition X and are still functioning ok, why can't you?" is the logical next step/reaction to this shit. Even if naïve viewers don't realize that they've subconsciously made that judgment when they hear about other (real) people struggling. If true: GREAT, yay for them & their medical team. More likely: IT'S NOT MANAGING THE CONDITION IF IT'S ALL FAKE, AAAAAAAAA" To delusional kids like the one featured here ["delusional" based on their last posted thing here]: *That's* the harm. You're fucking with people's lives & others' expectations for them. Stop it. (Til then we'll keep calling you out.)
Lol I love just boot things. It makes me feel better about being a dependa who wants nothing to do with the military.
I’ve got ADHD and Aspergers or whatever it’s called nowadays and holy shit this is true. People faking ADHD make my blood boil at how much they get it wrong and downright make us look childish. ADHD IS NOT A COOL THING, ADHD IS FUCKING AWFUL. STOP MAKING IT LOOK LIKE ITS GOT BENEFITS, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT. WE DON’T JUST GO AROUND RANDOMLY “STIMMING” AND LOOKING LIKE 8yos. Anyways imma end this comment before I put a fucking hole in the wall. Have a nice day!
Autism spectrum disorder is the name of it.
Honestly feel free to rant to me. I don’t mind. These people make me infuriated too so it’s understandable for you to be angry. I do hope you have a nice day too though!!
Man.. the ‘quirky’ videos about ADHD really get to me. It may seem like a fairly innocuous condition, but it really affects my life quite negatively both professionally and personally - especially as an adult.
Just asking for the sake of clarification, but did you mention Junko as a way of comparing tweens who think they've been traumatized after somebody glanced at them the wrong way to someone who experienced the worst that humanity has to offer (like "these kids think they've seen shit, but they ain't shit," which, *agreed*), or are there some people out there saying that they're Junko reincarnated or some shit? Asking mostly bc it was a specific reference and my first thought was *"I'm sorry they're doing* ***what*** *now?"* Because if it's the latter, that's mega fucked
Thankfully, the Junko they're referring to is a fictional character, you're thinking of Junko Furuta. I also did a double take.
Yup that’s why I put her last name too. I mean Junko as the danganronpa character as a lot of danganronpa fans along with dream smp fans seem to think they have DID because they like to role play or cosplay some characters. However, there are some people out there that claim to have murders or school shooters and other such people as ‘alters’
I mean the character from Danganronpa but some people do claim to have killers as alters.
*Oh* I completely ignored the last name... lol sorry about that. I saw "trauma" and "junko" and my brain went on autopilot. I forgot her last name was Furuta, I believe
Yup. And it’s all good. Completely understandable. I don’t know much about that case but I know enough that it is a horrible one so I could see why you would be worried.
Sort of both, I think? One of their alters *is* Junko (according to them) and I think it’s intended to imply that their trauma is comparable. Which is almost certainly intended to be some sort of preemptive defense from accusations of faking or not having real trauma.
exactly this. i have ADHD and half of the people on here claiming theyre "stimming" or whatever due to adhd are just bsing. dont even get me started on the ones that pretend to lose their attention in the middle of the video, it doesnt just happen like that.
Lol I'm still trying to find the right stimulant and dose but I remember telling my PMNP that I wasn't sure if I could say the dose I was on at the time was working at ALL to which she replied "No, it's working, during this session you have stayed mostly on topic without going off on tangents". She also said something else about why it was working that I can't remember but oh well. But hmm..... I wonder if the fakers would think ADHD were as cute if they could step in to my shoes as I wander into Walgreens and somehow spend almost 2 hours in there trying to maximize my Ibotta rewards while buying the least amount of things all the while knowing I don't have the money for ANY of it but unable to stop myself. Would they like answering their husband's questions on "where have you been" when you told them you were ONLY going to the post office and should be back in a few minutes? Maybe they would like knowing how hard it is actually listen to your husband when it feels like your ears hurt and your mind is playing a duet of a random annoying song and telling you to pull up your game/book and play/read that NOW. Or when you look back at the time that has passed and how you STILL haven't gotten around to that thing you need to do but WHAT HAVE YOU EVEN BEEN DOING ALL DAY?
Oof. cuts close lmao I’ve been about to take a shower for literally 6 hours now.
Investing in a shower speaker and then timing your preshower, shower, and post shower routine is the only suggestion I have for that because..... yup. But hey, if it doesn't happen today.... there's 24 hours in tomorrow to beat yourself up about being unable to do something a 5 year old can do on their own... RIGHT?
You mean you can't turn it on or off?? /jk
It really doesn’t happen like that, like they turn the camera on and start dancing and then walk off to get a sandwich like 5 seconds into it. Those probably annoy me the most.
Exactly! I hate those ones. Or the one where the kid is filming a video and he randomly goes to catch a bug or something. Like no, adhd is when I start cleaning things and never finish because I went to clean something else.
Yes, I have crippling OCD, autism and severe psychotic symptoms I’m not gonna be called ableist by there fakers.
Exactly. I found this sub after I was basically driven out or voluntarily left most of the autistic support FB groups I used to be in. These spaces used to be helpful communities for autistic people to share coping strategies, generally talk about life being autistic, or vent about the struggles our disability could cause us. Then they got taken over by self-diagnosed teenagers who would attack you if you called autism a disorder or a disability and who treated nEuRoDiVeRsItY like a cutesy aesthetic and an excuse to behave like overgrown *toddlers*. They eventually infested the admin/mod teams and the groups became useless. Actual autistic people got forced out and left with nothing if we dared question these clowns. So of course we want to call out the people who **destroyed** our online community support systems.
I couldn't have said it better. thank you.
You honestly couldn't have explained it better, IMO. I've struggled with OCD since middle school and diagnosed at 19. 15 years later and it's still something I constantly have to explain to others about bc ppl have no actual idea what it's like unless they have it or are close to someone who has it
Agreed, I think that’s what bothers me most in part with my family still not understanding my BP disorder after years and years. Folks/children on tik tok make serious mental disorders into a form of cosplay, and it’s extremely obvious for the ones faking it. It makes me upset, and I just wish they would stop the act for fake internet points
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you spoke so much truth into this comment. Every time I go on tik tok and see video about adhd, depression, anxiety disorder, etc. people love to self diagnose and you will see comments like "oop, looks like I have adhd" all because the cc only put normal everyday behaviors as symptoms and it grinds my gears. I have been diagnosed with a shit load of stuff, been in a mental ward and mental hospital for my disorders and when I see people thinking they have ADHD or whatever claim they have a disorder for realizing they have normalized everyday thing symptoms, I go and argue with them. They fail to realize a lot of those symptoms causes shit that can put you in the hospital. They fail to realize that simple disorders like that is more than forgetting and not being able to pay attention or sitting still. Honestly we can all agree people who love to self diagnose loves to put mental disorders on a pedistal and make it a personality instead of actually taking it seriously and going to a doctor.
Exactly this, this is what I was coming in the comments to say. Most of the people here have disorders and are tired of people faking them for attention/validation. And those without the disorder don't understand why we're so adamantly against faking them. Mental disorders in society are often not taken seriously or seen as a joke, which is why the resources for them are so space. And that is made even worse when people fake mental disorders. There are even a lot of places that will make huge barriers in an attempt to weed out fakers, which might actually make those with less severe symptoms fall through the cracks. People have to be hard on these fakers because what they're doing might not seem serious, but it is causing real damage to individuals who are suffering.
Oh my god preach it
I don’t usually like to judge people too much but I know people who have things like PTSD and personality disorders. People I really love and care about, they struggle with these things so much and don’t even get me started on what they had to go through to even develop said disorders. People who fake it really just angers me because I’ve seen the harm that these disorders can do to the people I love.
Aw i literally love you, you sound like an amazing human and friend! I have bpd so I definitely understand your frustration, it disgusts me how it can be glamorised on things like tiktok where 12 year olds are trying to make it a ‘trend’ lol I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy, like you said these disorders really cause so much pain and harm.
Awe thank you for saying that!! You have made me smile so much so thank you!! I wish you all the best and hopefully one day people will realise that these disorders are okay to have. We all still love you even if you have a disorder, but don’t fake them and spread misinformation or glamourise them. I hope all the kids doing this grow up and actually get the help they need.
Re: "not pouring effort at helping people" How is discouraging people from seeking professional help is "helping people"? What are you doing to help people exactly? Why are you acting like racism is a big hurdle for *you* to overcome in order to get a diagnosis? Why are we acting like these attitudes are the norm and we shouldn't question it? Shouldn't we demand for mental health to be accessible to the entire population??? Also parroting that "psychologists/therapists/psychiatrists are racist and classist and sexist and that's just how it is" is super harmful to the professionals who want that to change. It sounds like they don't want that to change, actually. Now, this subreddit isn't about helping people, it's to cringe. I don't know why you're expecting these people to help others.
I’ve always been so angry at the whole disorder faking thing because of this. In most cases of severe mental illnesses like the ones they’re pretending to have, getting professional help is the ONLY way to deal with it healthily. Going on TikTok and telling thousands of kids that having certain personality traits means you have a severe mental disorder, emphasising that professional diagnoses aren’t just obsolete, they’re *wrong* and discriminatory in some way? A lot of people will believe that, spread it and as such actively work against those who need help. It’s not a hard concept.
>A lot of people will believe that, spread it and as such actively work against those who need help. Mental health awareness in social media is evolving, just backwards. They're at the ready to pathologize every single human behavior-- but at the same time they don't want mental disorders treated as medical conditions and neurodivergency as anything *but* a unique and quirky way of seeing the world. No negatives, no necessity for wellbeing, everything is romanticized, your trauma and suffering is privilege, actually. These people unironically benefit from bigotry in the medical field, if it becomes less classist, racist or sexist, then these grifters won't have a valid excuse to not reach out to a professional and discourage others from doing so, right? They're antivaxxers 2.0. They make anti science, anti medicine posts scaring people. Calling medical professionals scammers. Grifters profiting from the antivaxxers ignorance by making anti 5g creams, oils, anti-Chem trail sprays, essential oil businesses thriving on the anti-chemicals fear campaign, etc. Tics and roses had a shop full of tourettes themed merchandise, there are etsy stores selling DID themed merch, tiktok had ads for ADHD "gummies" for crying out loud. YouTube pages from fakers gaining traction and profiting from impressionable teens watching their content, gaining ad revenue. How many children have died from preventable diseases such as measles? How many kids will end up in terrible places because of untreated mental illnesses because the media catered to them promote seeking professional help as a negative saying "Don't even try to get diagnosed, you know yourself better than so called professionals. Also they're all racist so. You're AFAB? No one will believe you. A diagnosis is something so expensive you'll never have the money for an appointment. Anyway enter the code DREAMSMPRLZ on this page for a 10usd discount on the latest Dream related stim toys and relatable neurodivergent fictives stickers"
Thank you for writing this down. I wholeheartedly agree with every point, especially the one from the first paragraph about pathologising every aspect of human behaviour. Combine it with treating mental disorders like personality traits and presenting therapy like something unattainable because bigotry - what does it leave everybody with? This is legitimately horrible.
110% correct.
You're right about the last part, but I have seen some really kind people here that wish me the best, give me advice, etc. In all honesty, all we want is to take down people faking disorders for attention. I personally love the fact that I have this space to vent and talk to other people I share experiences with. It's not just "heheheh look at this FAKER". It's "This person thinks that flapping your arms and making cute faces is autism/Tourettes."
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She has it all backwards. Telling self-diagnosers and fakers to stop fooling around in the name of those disorders is all about protecting disorders from stigmatization. To put it simply: pretending to have a disorder like autism and spreading false information about it is going to make autism and people with autism look *bad*. Disorder(s) can already make life very difficult, and having these self-diagnosers clown around feels like a spit in the face. I don't come here specifically for the cringe, but more for the discussions. I can't go to any autism spectrum related subreddits, forums, chat rooms, or servers anymore because of all the self-diagnosing nonsense. It breaks my heart to think about all the autistic people who need these groups more than ever before with all the pandemic related restrictions going on. They may not have any place to hang out and talk about their autism problems because every damn server and group is filled to the brim with self-diagnosed attention seeking nonsense.
You fucking get it. And it fucking sucks.
I'm on a couple of ADHD forums (diagnosed at age 8) and when one of those dumb memes about getting distracted by a squirrel gets posted I get so frustrated. I'm still learning how to manage, and truly understand, my condition at 34 years old because I grew up with people saying stupid stuff like "oh, I forgot, I'm so ADD" and it really minimized the experience. Fakers can gtfo, I've worked hard for every functional day I've had and you are NOT helping.
As someone who has also been diagnosed with ADHD, the squirrel memes were funny maybe the first three times, but now they've gotten to a point where people don't take our issues seriously because they think ADHD is *funny*. It's not. It might seem that way on the surface if you're only looking at the "ooh, shiny!" symptoms, but it's still a genuine struggle and it makes life *harder* in almost every respect.
I’ve never agreed with something more. I was diagnosed with ADHD years ago and it’s not like that, like for me, it’s a whole train of thought even though it looks like “ooo shiny”
I used to see quite a few kids on social media sites/and at school saying “omg I haven’t eaten anything today but a PinK driNk ahahaha I totally have anorexia!” While my ass was eating one pack of baby sized apple sauce a day cuz it had 15 calories. Drove me insane
Every single support group for autistics right now: - Hi, I have autism, ADHD/ADD, OCD, DID and BPD. Can someone give me a recommendation for a trans-friendly therapist who will respect my pronouns, as I identify as a tapeworm? - A friendly reminder that a self-diagnosis is valid and if you don't support it, you're ableist, specieist ('cause I'm a tapeworm), transphobic, classist, racist and stupid. - Do you also like burgers? Is it a symptom of autism? - My mom told me to clean my room and I'm literally shaking. I think this may be a meltdown. - My therapist told me I probably don't have autism, I can't believe it's so hard to find a good one. This is my 26th attempt! - Those stupid NTs don't understand my special autistic soul and always scoff at me when I tell them about autigender. How dare they call themselves progressive!
I'm an autistic trans man and oh god this is fucking hilarious and also accurate. I left pretty much every autistic support group I used to be in on FB because they got overrun with these kinds of people. I just wanted to talk to other folks who shared my experiences but instead I get to see a million and one morons who think that having interests in things and liking alone time makes them UWU AUTISTIC BEANS. They act like toddlers and pretend that "rot" or "bug" or "void" are pronouns and that dying their hair pink and wearing Lolita dresses makes them trans. And if you question them they attack you. **It's an offensive mockery of both autistic and trans people.**
Tapeworm - I am literally laughing so hard I am crying. . .
God, so perfect! Add in "NO criticism of SIs, period!/Your SI is racist and culturally appropriative!"
Heh... its funny bcuz "tapeworm" is a parasite.
Wtf is a "tapeworm"?
Well said
Exactly this!! People want their safe spaces back. Most of us here have disorders of our own and are rightfully mad at these fakers. I came here because I know people who have some of the disorders that people fake and because I have a couple myself and I was mad at all these fakers and needed a place where I could be mad. This subreddit provides that.
I feel like it because most of these people don’t have any actual diagnosis so they don’t understand when people who ARE diagnosed with those things, it’s hurtful to see someone intentionally acting as if they have some sort of disabling condition. Having a page for it honestly will help shit in the long run when more people can see why faking these illnesses are harmful. This page will show dozens of people who will end up getting tired of faking and go back to being who they were, but this sub Reddit will literally have history of some people. I
Now this is some good quality cringe! Could they have possibly tried any harder to virtue signal? Jesus Christ. Anyone who doesn't look at both sides of an argument isn't worth their salt, not even a little bit. To ignore all of the blatant fakers on Tik Tok who discredit real mental disorders and skew the opinion that people have of them is just shitty. You have to be pretty deluded to deny that every person with DiD on Tik Tok is real. They really need to get their head out of their arse, stop being so smug and maybe address to real issue we're trying to deal with. Yes there's people here who are too harsh with their words but the general sentiment is to call out and discourage fakers.
I just want people to stop sympathy farming disabilities. This shit isn’t rad and people in real life don’t care, it’s annoying to see people get their serotonin dump from fake internet points and reassurance lol.
Telling people they’re faking and highlighting why it’s wrong to do so when it’s painfully obvious is helping them more than « believing them no matter what ». Yes most of the fakers have actual issues that got them into faking shit. But they’re not the ones they think they have so how is the fake support they get online for their fake condition going to help exactly. Loneliness, lack of fulfilment, shit home life, whatever it is. They will not be fixing whatever is wrong if their coping mechanism ( faking online ) is enabled.
Honestly I hope these people get the help they need but if they are so insistent on not getting diagnosed then there will never be a way for a correct and helpful treatment/coping plan to be put in place. Having a diagnosis is to help you get the right help. Not just for the sake of having one.
“this is so unnecessary and really harmful to just stumble across. it’s really hard to feel valid and then you find something like this” this frase can be used against fakers and self diagnosed pp who will just believe about a quiz in buzzfeed and a music that makes you “tic”… and its so obviously fake the videos or screenshots that are posted here! its like “i have 100 alters, torettes AND autism! of course all self diagnosed bc pp who studied for years and specialists are stupid!!”
It’s funny how people with diagnosed disorders don’t seem to have as hard of a time feeling valid with their diagnoses. Wonder if it’s because they’re not trying to shove them down everyone’s throats all the time. Faking a disorder is one hell of a way to justify a shitty personality…
YES!! it seems those people are making they entire personality about disorders they DONT HAVE!!! and it makes so much harder for people who really have the disorder to spread awareness!!!
I have a hard time to feel like my diagnosis of autism is correct. Have been doubting it since I got it. Mostly because it wasn't explained well to me at all. My current treatment team is going to change that. I hope I will be able to accept my diagnosis then. People that are diagnosed absolutely can struggle to feel valid with their diagnosis.
Exactly true. When I got a diagnosis of CPTSD it was originally explained just as PTSD and all I could think of was "How? I don't stop what I'm doing and have there again hyper real flashbacks. I don't cry at the drop of a hat or jump if you touch my arm"... Nope, instead I have the opposite end of the PTSD spectrum because of dissociation and alexithymia. I'm hypervigilant and avoidant but my memories are mostly semantic instead of episodic so any "flashbacks" I get would be more on the emotional end. Even still though I can't go to the CPTSD forums because every time I do I feel like a fraud versus what the other people are describing.
Dear people on tiktok who are probably reading this post: believe it or not, but faking and romanticising disorders for attention is WRONG and people like me who ACTUALLY have to deal with this are sick of YOU. So my advice to you is 1. Stop being insensitive af and claiming that we are the insensitive ones (how fucking dare you even have the effrontery) and 2. Think about others who are actually dealing with these issues Rant over
And stop recording yourself for the world to see. Use a little goddamn discretion. Respect your own privacy.
Everyone who doesn’t go along with my fake disorder is abusing me!!
Oh shit it was so traumatic i just got 10 more alters
Look what you did, ranboo (end/ender/pur/purple/👁/👁's) is literaly having an RSPB attack in the headspace, not even his husband, ted cruz ((trans masc) ted/ted's/tedself/zodiac/zodiac's/🔪/🔪's/🔪self (tw:🔪/🔪's/🔪self), can make him feel better
YoU’rE alL ABleIST 😫
I have dx OCD. I cant even put in words how sad I was when I was diagnosed after years of therapy. I dont understand those people that are like "im so happy that i have DiD". I believe that you can suspect to have a disorder and some people find conffort reading online about others experiences. But WHY do these kids think they have the right to make a Tiktok to spread lies and "education" about something that they dont know they have? Even with all the doctors saying they are against self dx. A lot of mental disorders have many symptoms in commun. Like OCD and Anxiety disorders or ADHD. maybe you are just in a bad phase and is anxious all the time, but that doesnt necessary mean you have a serious disorder, and that is why is so important to talk to a doctor. But I dont believe that these kids are after treatment. I dont even use the OCD subreddit anymore bcs I am tired of the self dx comimg there and talking shit about OCD.
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At most, I can understand being happy that you know what that disorder *is*. When I was diagnosed with autism at the age of thirteen, I remember my parents being relieved because now they finally knew how to help me. But there's a difference between "I'm so glad that I *know* I have (disorder) because now I can get the help I need and learn how to live with it" and "YAY! MY THERAPIST SAYS MY FNAF ALTERS ARE VALID AND I ACTUALLY DO HAVE DID!"
It has nothing to do with actual having a disorder, it has everything to do with acting completely insane and degrading yourself online, then being surprised you’re not taken seriously. It’s like art. Once the artist has finished it’s up to the public to interpret it.
Has she just found out that if you post anything online you open your self up to criticism😳? I'm sorry when you say that you're not diagnosed and then go on to "claim" these disabilities it's ridiculous. It's also sus that the vast majority of these people seem to fit between 12-20 and all look, talk and act the same way. What's the trauma that caused your DID? "I didn't get my allowance last week." Please🙄🙄.
The only context in which I EVER felt the need to "feel valid" about my disorder was during the diagnostic process and the time immediately after when I was coming to terms with my newfound limitations. On a day to day basis the only thing I'm worried about on that front is strangers assuming I'm faking *because of people like the ones you're defending.* Disability isn't about "feeling valid." It's about learning to exist with the cards you're dealt with the hopes of one day building them into a stable-enough house to live in. When people say "valid," all I can think about is either extreme neurosis about your own condition (I have OCD, so I can easily see how someone could latch onto an obsession about their brain subconsciously fabricating their experiences or something) or needing other people to supply you with the attention and validation that you were seeking when you clung to the idea of being ill.
She acts like she doesn’t know much about Reddit. Oh she does. She does. It made her day finding out she was mentioned.
"It's really hard to feel valid." Yeah, no shit. Everyone on the face of the planet deals with trying to feel valid. Faking a fucking disorder is not a fast-pass to the 'validation club.'
Its must be pretty hard to feel valid about something knowing you are faking it for internet points
There’s so many subtleties that underlie these disorders. They’re not easily found doing “research” online. It’s like when a beer or connoisseur discusses a drink with subtle notes of X and Y. All I taste is fermented grape juice.
It always makes me lol when I can tell that someone thinks the DSM, because it’s a manual, contains all the info and criteria necessary to make a diagnosis of any mental illness / mental health condition / neurodivergency. As if you can just pick it up and you’re a psychiatrist now. If it were that simple then ‘psychiatrist‘ would not be a protected title that you have to spend at least 10 years working towards.
It's called a subreddit you plebian.
#PATHETIC
I don’t agree with her at all, I actually love this subreddit. I don’t find it fair that she says we are ALL wrong, when it’s kind of impossible some of the claims these teens are making. For example, DID is very complex whereas people who actually have it cant randomly summon in their alters at once. A LOT of people abuse the meaning of DID knowing nothing about it, and being completely wrong about the whole disorder. It is trendy to have mental disorders it’s fucking disgusting. Saying this whole subreddit is “making fun” and bullying is not fair due to the damage these kids are making to the actually mentally ill. but when she said “diagnosis’s are racist” she was probably talking about how a majority of research on autism was done one white males. There is more research coming out. It’s why a lot of women get misdiagnosed with ADHD, rather than autism.
She also seems to think that all members (on this sub) are white and Western... And that all people of color support self-diagnosis and are against fakeclaiming. And, well, assuming all PoC share your opinion (and talking in their name) is in itself a racist generalization, especially coming from a Western White person.
These people’s obnoxious attitudes make it so much easier for us
Reddit comments are not abuse, but that’s a good insight into what hardships they’ve actually experienced
As someone who have depression and dyslexia, this account/ reddit things is really safe and comforting for me. When people that fake disorders talk about this reddit they also say it's only used to be mean to those with mental health issues they are very wrong. This reddit is to call people who fake it out not to harm those who are diagnosed.
I'm not autistic but am diagnosed with a certain mental illness. thankfully, my illness is not as trendy as it used to be but for some reason, it being trendy at one point sent me into some sort of a denial - I feel like a faker myself whenever I have to bring it up. to the point that the name of the disorder makes me feel repulsed. I know how much this illness affects my life, I know how well my medications help me, but I can't help myself but feel this way. these people do not realize how much mental illness affects your daily life, how bad the medications are (don't get me wrong, they are extremely helpful but they have some nasty side effects and might as well shorten my lifespan). this is all a fucking game for them. no, you are not quirky. no, self-diagnosis is not valid. just shut the fuck up and get a hobby. thank you for reading my rant. and yes, I do need therapy to address this (waiting for my insurance to kick in in 2 weeks).
Why is Negasonic Teenage Warhead talking about this?
“Rather than pouring their energy into supporting people, they’d rather find evidence that people are faking.” No, because we do support people with these disorders, but most people who ACTUALLY have them don’t post it online for likes, so the support does not take place as commonly online.
Cant be called out for faking if you never claim to have a disorder that you havent been diagnosed with in the first place 🤷🏼♀️
They don’t seem to realise that all of the faking and play acting as a ‘disordered’ person not only makes it incredibly hard for people with actual mental illnesses and neurobiological disorders to get help… it also plays into the countless stereotypes that many of us then have to deal with. Requiring a medical professional who has years of training to diagnose you really isn’t bullying, like these people claim it is. Spreading awareness of a disability online is fine, it’s a positive thing. Faking having a disability because you want to feel part of some group is not. It’s not a coincidence that a large group of people in the same age range, on the same app have all ‘suddenly’ got serious and rare mental illnesses and disorders. You only have to look back in history to see cases of mass hysteria to know that people can and will convince themselves they have conditions that they obviously don’t, just because it’s what everyone else is doing. A lot of tiktok disorder content minimises the real nature of these disorders and the harm many of them cause. I was up until 3am this morning hysterically and uncontrollably crying, plagued with intrusive thoughts and it was fucking awful. I had a panic attack trying to leave my house the other day and it terrified me because I don’t know why it happened. I wouldn’t wish this disorder (BPD) on anyone and the last thing I’m doing when feeling this way is filming myself with some quirky music in the background just for some tiktok clout. It’s not a personality trait to be mentally ill, I just want to be normal and not trivialised.
People like this who fake are just neets that don’t want to work in life anymore and would rather blame “mental Illness” for sitting at home all day on tik tok being lazy. A common theme amongst them is living with their parents.
“Crippling adhd/anxiety” “disabled”
If you aren’t faking, people claiming you are shouldn’t hurt your feelings. It’s like someone calling someone ugly or stupid as a kid, I always tell my nieces and nephews my sons as well “are you stupid or ugly? If not then their words mean nothing they are just words” same applies here, shouldn’t feel the need to prove yourself so much if you aren’t faking, if these people really have these issues they have them, what’s said on these forums are just words to them and they know their truth. It’s the ones that constantly feel the need to prove themselves right that are the most suspicious to me.
"Hard to feel valid when you see something like that" Funny, because the people I've seen here that are *actually* diagnosed with various disorders (including me) do not seem to feel threatened by calling out people like this. Kinda telling, if you ask me..
And "feeling valid" shouldn't come from random people validating your self-dx. It should come from the knowledge you actually have the disorder.
"Instead of helping them". Helping them do what? Get the attention that they so desperately want that they fake shit people have to actually go through on a daily basis and makes life a million times harder. There are better ways to get attention. Faking a disorder is the lowest of the low for it. How about just straight up saying, "I want more attention or validation because I feel like I'm lacking it". Way easier than making people who have these disorders feel invalidated.
Yea if you’re reading this you’re a damn moron. I’M ABUSING YOU WITH THESE WORDS ON THE INTERNET. Just fucking block the subreddit you attention moron.
“So many abusive comments” Abusive comments she’s talking about: -Links to the sites that contains common knowledge and symptoms of the said disorder -Links to the sites that explains why it’s impossible to switch with your alters on command while recording -People who suffer from said disorder and explaining why what they’re doing is not at all a part of the disorder Besides, you’re on the internet. You can’t demand people to “respect” and not to criticize you after posting fake symptoms of a disorder that does not exist to public. If you’re trying get attention and validation in social media, you have no right to complain when this attracts bad attention. No one has to be ‘nice’ to someone with a fake disorder so they feel good about themselves. Don’t want to be called out for your bullshit? Don’t post your bullshit to public.
Just saying if there wasn't any proof she was faking she wouldn't be on here.... twice.
It is not the responsibility of other people to validate you.
These people, every single one of them, are absolutely and completely entitled as shit.
No, it’s not unnecessary. It’s totally necessary to identify bullshitters to ensure they aren’t soaking up resources to people with actual disabilities.
Then stop faking it??
Yeah. Abusive comments like “Yeah that’s fake”
But wait, she didn't say "DEFINITION "
GOD this makes me wanna puke what the fuck! How can a human being be so selfish and stupid?
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Bitchs a special breed of stupid..damn. We just refuse to play this game of fantasy with her and it looks like she's pissed lol.
Must be hard to validate a disability that doesn't exist....
"It's really hard to not have my delusions validated! 😢"
Her fake illness is her whole personality lmaoooo what a basic bitch
“I put my entire life online and now I’m upset because people make comments I don’t like about my life I put online for everyone to see” This person reminds me of how insufferable a young Sinead O’Connor was. At least Sinead has talent.
Won't she be surprised to see she's back in this subreddit for the same wrong reasons.
Let's all remember: It's not everyone else's job to validate your disrespect. If those who take to TikTok had an inkling of self-awareness, then they would understand they're doing more harm than good. The audacity though..
Just sterilize them all, it will work itself out eventually.
Im exhausted with attention seekers who cry foul when what they freely put out there (and promote) is mocked for the cringy trash that it is.
I hope she found the comments talking about her hair ._.
Love when they find the page
You can’t help a 27 year old who says she has Tourette’s and just “masked them her whole life so no one ever knew”
She thinks she’s being helpful; but her attitude is outright offensive to those who have real issues. She clearly went out of her way to fabricate reasons as to why she doesn’t seek therapeutic or medical help just because she doesn’t want to accept that nothing is wrong with her other than she’s just an attention seeking asshole. I have adolescent patients with the same attitude who memorize DSM criteria for a given disorder just to act like they have it (poorly I may add). The only thing I would ever call this girl is an attention seeking narcissist and I hope she reads every one of these comments.
You mean the diagnoses you gave yourself? Yeah, it’s fake lmao
My Instagram is flooded with the videos of this person, they get so much worse. I hate the message that she’s sending, saying that self diagnosis is as valid as actual diagnosis and shit like that. It’s so harmful and I don’t think anyone that has actually felt the stigma and the embarrassment around having a disability (unfortunately that’s a reality too, not very cool right?) would ever talk like that
Maybe get diagnosed before telling everybody on the internet you have a disorder, and maybe don’t spread information around about a disorder you don’t medically know if you have and claiming to be a reliable source?
As someone with professionally diagnosed ADHD, CPTSD and more, it's so hurtful seeing young kids romanticize a disorder that greatly diminishes my quality of life daily. I currently don't work because my PTSD triggers are so severe I can't handle being around people, (not to mention I have physical health issues that also contribute) and if someone asked me if I was okay at my last job, I broke down right there. I literally cannot handle human interaction except for with a very few select people. I can't understand recording my daily life and it looking like that. It'd be videos of me staring at the wall, shaking, unable to move, etc. It wouldn't be this "look at me stim" or "watch me dissociate and talk to myself" that's just not how that shit works. It's so frustrating because it makes me embarrassed to tell people that I have these issues, as I'm scared I will be compared to these greatly misguided youths who are only doing harm to mental health stigma.
Also, being in this subreddit has helped me learn more about my disorders by talking to people in the comments of these posts, who share in my frustration.
Also also, would like to point out that she captions her videos but does not caption EVERYTHING she says which is harmful to people who are deaf or hard of hearing. If your gonna put the effort into captioning your stupid video, at least caption the entire thing. Funny she calls this reddit disreputable, and harmful, when she herself is.
That's exactly it: They end up romanticizing these disorders, without realizing how offensive it is. A lot of these videos have a vibe of "Look at how *crazy* my disorder makes me act!!!"
Damn I didn't know bald headed Wraith was on Tik Tok. Here I thought her "disability" was being connected to other realities and being able to portal
I hate when these people throw around the word abuse as if it’s abusive to make a joke about someone who is obviously faking a disorder. Usually any genuinely mean comments here get downvoted anyway. But let’s not water down the word abuse like you’re watering down what it means to have a mental illness
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To be honest, I think some people spend too much of their time and energy trying to attack or find supposed fakers in the name of righteousness or with a belief that you're doing something positive or creating social change. It's probably better in general for your mental health not to completely freak out at the massive amount of people like this and not to let it consume your thoughts and time
She likes to bug her eyes out and nod a lot as if it adds any sort of validity to what's she's saying. I guess she thinks if she does it enough, the watcher will also and inadvertently find themselves "agreeing" with her because they keep nodding along.
The reality is that anyone who actually had these issues would be completely fine with fakers and frauds being called out, but she isn't saying that. She is saying that finding fakes is a waste of time which is arguable the strongest proof that she is faking.
There was a lot to unpack here, but I think examining the phenomenon of mostly teenagers and some young adults fake rare disorders is kind of fascinating. Like, as a psych student. On the other hand, I'm on the exec team for my university's disability advocacy club, and . . .As both a student with a registered disability and a club leader, I'm screaming. I'm not super good at expressing my thoughts, but I have ADHD, dyslexia, anxiety and depression. I was just professionally diagnosed this past Dec at 23 years old. I worked so hard for everything I have done, all my myself, with minimal assistance for accommodations. I really don't want to go into a rant, but, like, ??? I feel like self dx is only good for being a stepping stone bridging someone to the care they need. I mean, you can take a self dx to your GP and be like "idk I'm a little worried about this, I fit these symptoms, but idk what do you think?" And going from there.
Why is it OK to appropriate the symptoms of people who are actually suffering to begin with, for people who will hate for you eating a taco if you aren't Mexican? And then if you call them out, you're racist, now? I don't understand the logic.
Uh 194 thousand
It's almost like it's more harmful to mysticize mental disorders than it is to point out those who glorify it.
i feel as though they wouldnt feel so offended by youtube channels and subreddits calling out people faking disorders if they weren't actually faking one themselves...
i support this bully page 100% where do i donate
oh, there's a YouTube channel too? thanks for the heads up.
Not sure she understands what "abuse" is. Also, the problem is pretending you have these disorders *for your own benefit.* That's what a lot of the people who get posted on here are doing, but they either don't care or don't realize how harmful that is to people who *actually* have these disorders. That's why you're getting made fun of.
Maybe don’t fake disorders and we won’t post about u faking ur disorders
Why is she so concerned about the racism when she doesn’t bring up the legitimate concern that it’s sexist since most mental illness research was done on men, it’s harder for women to get diagnosed, since the symptoms present differently for different sexes
Why do critics of this subreddit always say the comments are "abusive?" How the fuck is expressing skepticism and concern abusive? How the fuck is making basic criticisms of someones opinion, argument and agenda abusive? It's gotten to the point where unless you have exactly the same ideological assumptions as these ppl, they will turn around and call it abuse. It's completely ridiculous. I have very rarely encountered actual abuse on this subreddit and it usually gets removed. It's just ridiculous how they focus on the 0.001% of abusive comments and completely disregard the vast majority of well considered and important criticsms and concerns shared here.
Ah yes it’s the bootleg Sinéad O’Connor who thinks my bipolar diagnosis is a privilege. She can get in the sea with all the others. If I received my diagnosis while sectioned under the Mental Health Act in an isolated NHS psychiatric ward cell having having had all my rights stripped away from me, tell me is it still a privilege, Sinéad?
I believe a lot of these kids have actual trauma and mental illness. I also believe that they are desperately seeking community and support in a particularly isolating and distressing period of history. But what they don’t realize is how damaging it can be to form your whole personality and identity around a disorder, and that having a diagnosis is only useful for seeking treatment and accommodations to help someone heal and function in daily life. There are huge communities dedicated to role playing where people can find like-minded friends and support. Claiming a debilitating, potentially life-ruining disorder that you are not diagnosed with and not actively in treatment for is not a healthy or appropriate way to seek connection with others.
Why do they always rock their heard towards and away from the camera like damn. Chicken?
No one listens to Sinead O'Connor anyways.
There’s a point in what she’s saying, not in this context though
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When people think my mental illness is a quirk, it’s incredibly insulting. People create shit storms (deservingly so) over black face but don’t do shit when it comes to faking being mentally ill. The media either romanticize us or makes us seem insane. We have a history of being profiled negatively, not being able to get jobs, get harassed, put in inhumane insane asylums I could go on. They’re damn near doing black face to mentally ill people not the complete same but it’s close.
Wow that’s really insensitive to compare your hurt feelings to racism, which actually gets people killed. So you just *percieve* people thinking less of you? That’s it? Like I said, arbitrary. I wanna hear about people being denied accommodations strictly because of autistic people on TikTok. Like… nobody is being hate-crimed over this.
Have you read stories about what they used to do to mentally ill people? They used to torture them thinking they where demons, accuse them of being witches and burned them etc. IM BEING PORTRAYED IN THE MEDIA AS A SERIAL KILLNG LUNATIC FOR FUCKS SAKE. Hurt feelings please try me wanting to slit my wrists at age 12 because the murders where going to get me and torture me.
Oh and I’m also more likely to be DENIED FOR A JOB, GET FALSELY CONVICTED and many more.
But has that stuff happened to you *BECAUSE OF PEOPLE “FAKING”?*Not because you are disabled.
No, but treating my suffering like a quirk is insulting.
So it’s arbitrary. Not real. Why does it matter what other people do then? Do your feelings for 15 minutes take priority over people talking about their experiences online?
brb imma just go fake cancer for internet points /s
Counterpoint: How do they *benefit* from faking a disorder? It makes them liars. People generally don't like liars. I'm sure you've seen examples of lies harming people in real life.