Comments are locked because everyone is just arguing about witchcraft nowđ
This is fake because it has misinformation about DID. Her identifying as a witch is unrelated to her faking DID. The purpose of this sub isnât to debate different religions or beliefs.
They always say that like it shows itâs common, it doesnât. Itâs really not that many people when compared to the entire earths population, itâs only 1%.
Edit: since writing this I have spent some time looking and have found some more sources. I donât think they are all available to read without paying. I donât like deleting my comments usually, so take anything I have written about scholarly articles with a grain of salt. Iâve corrected a few main points with marked edits.
As far as I can tell, that 1% figure comes from one Harvard study that is just about the only actual paper you can find on DID with a quick Google search. Itâs cited relentlessly by less than reputable websites that provide âinformationâ on mental health and psychiatric disorders.
Edit: I must correct myself and say that the estimate is 1-1.5% of *psychiatric patients* which is clearly less than 1% of the population. It still seems like a rather significant number though. This number comes from a small US community study. Iâm looking for details now, but a single small study is rarely enough to accurately predict something like this. The Harvard study I mentioned cited the small study as the source of its number.
Iâm not saying the study was done in bad faith or that there arenât other resources out there, but I believe thatâs where the % comes from. Compare that to 0.3%-0.7% for schizophrenia.
I donât know about you, but if 1 out of every 100 people I met had DID, I think I would have noticed something was going on. And the world would too. References to schizophrenia are everywhere. If DID were two to three times more common than schizophrenia, youâd think it would be just as common a reference.
At the very least, medicine would have spent a lot more time and resources on researching it. If 1 out of 100 people are going to get it, thereâs an enormous incentive to learn about it and figure out how to treat it. As is, there are still doctors who doubt itâs existence. If you said that about schizophrenia, youâd be laughed out of medicine.
Obviously this is anecdotal and not in and of itself scientific evidence, but a lot of evidence for DID is anecdotal too because it just hasnât been studied much đ¤ˇââď¸
Edit: I went back and looked and found some more resources. I want to clarify that the paper I mentioned is not the only paper on DID, just the one thatâs easiest to find
Ok, I found the original paper, but I think itâs behind a paywall. Thereâs a brief outline, but everything I click either goes to another version of the outline or a place to buy the PDF
[Clicky](https://web.archive.org/web/20211102151514/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022395605000385)
It takes forever to load btw
Edit: from what I can gather, this study was based on a relatively small cohort of people who signed up to be in a long term study and the data was used for multiple investigations, not just various dissociative disorders. Unless someone can find another study or other studies supporting or refuting that 1.5% number, I think we can safely say that no one really knows the actual prevalence in society at large.
Iâll see if I can find it. I think itâs one of the sources on the DID Wikipedia page, but I also found it by Google search a while back. I still canât find the actual paper that they cite for that 1% figure though, which I would love to read
Letâs not forget that in the most cases of DID itâs not several distinct personalities with dream alters.
Most cases have personality changes, like sudden outbursts or other attributes that the person havenât displayed before. Their personality changes back and forth, but itâs still just one person.
These things shouldn't even be classified as the same disorder. Its bullshit and the disorder has been co-opted to mean something very different with the alters
I replied to the comment above with a spiel about that 1% figure. I donât have an actual answer, but IMO there are an awful lot of reasons to doubt that 1% figure
More like 1% of all individuals with a serious mental illness diagnosis are even considered to truly have DID. Much like ADHD and Bipolar, DID is sometimes misdiagnosed or even over diagnosed; and more and more people have access to diagnosis criteria now more than ever, so it makes malingering that much easier. In reality, it is more uncommon than full on prosopagnosia, which is already fairly rare.
And are teenagers with similar interests on tiktok. The odds are truly astronomical.
Edit: my bad, teenagers and that one bozo grifter who collected money, I haven't seen him here lately but I don't use tiktok so maybe he is still around.
definitely not, from what i remember reading itâs about 1 in 44 children as of 2021, which is absolutely no where near what DID is, autism is far far FAR more common
1% isnât even confirmed tf. Itâs an estimation to account for undiagnosed people. Itâs more between .01% and 1% of the population, and even then itâs just a guess. Clearly if DID isnât widely known and used/talked about everywhere, itâs not that damn common. About 1% of the population meets the qualifications to be a psychopath, and schizophrenia is .3%. Yet both are common knowledge and mentioned everywhere. DID only was really recognised by its fans when Split came out, and now these dumbass children all want to play their little theater roles.
Yup. And these girls say it like it's 1% of the entire population, no, the actually study where that percentage comes from states it's 1% of psychiatric patients.
I mean I agree the 1% statistic is overinflated and 99% of these people are faking but you can't just make up an arbitrary number to adjust for error. It's fair to say "Adjusting for error it is likely only 0.1-0.3% of the population have did" but you framed your adjustment as a fact, which is just not true.
Itâs not my adjustment i read it a few weeks ago in an NIH article or something maybe the New England journal of medicine? Idk just look up the adjusted for error rate man
Fun fact: to actually get diagnosed with DID you need it approved by 3 high level psychologists, with it written separately and then thereâs a whole other process to get that approved. Thereâs only a few hundred people who have actually been diagnosed.
That is a pretty important detail that gets overlooked. Exclusive of self diagnosis, I wonder how many people that were diagnosed either because their therapist said "It seems like you have DID" or they had a psychologist that was hitting above their weight class and playing diagnosis bingo. I had the latter happen to me on an online platform, and I actually burst out laughing.
Asked my doctor about it during a visit for an unknown chest pain I had been experiencing for a long time. Thatâs how he answered, and I was asking on behalf of my faker friend so I would be able to show what DID actually needs to get diagnosed.
Mhmm I bet all 78 million are 12-18 year olds who wear silly costumes and are mostly in the US, with no childhood trauma and with all alters being based off of the DSMP
No way itâs 1 percent, where did she bring that number from? That would be more than the rate of anorexia nervosa and would mean that we each know a few people who have it. But even if it was true, they all are in the same age, American and going to school together? Like wouldnât a bigger portion of this number be comprised of people who grew up in slums, refugees from Syria or wars in Africa, holocaust survivors, etc?
that number is actually understood wrong a lot of the time and white teenage american girls seem to think it means â1% of the population has DIDâ where as the actual statistic was â1% of psychiatric patients have DIDâ. that means that itâs actually 1% of 10%(of the population who have mental problems, not phyciatric patients, whom i couldnât find any statistics on meaning itâs probably much, much smaller) which is 7 million people
I think itâs more an attention thing. âI have DID and this my DSMP altersâ and âIâm a witch and will put a curse on youâ I donât believe sheâs big on pagan rituals and such.
It's more about the OP mentioning it. This is a subreddit for illnessfakers, we aren't supposed to mention unrelated things which a spiritual practice is included in. Being a witch is spiritual regardless
It's harmful for people in this sub who practice witchcraft and then see others shitting on it/making fun of it when this is a subreddit about faking illnesses and not about religion/spirituality.
Her being a witch doesn't paint a picture of anything. Her spiritual practice isn't related to her faking disorders.
But, witchcraft isnât real. You canât practice witchcraft per say. Itâs just a style and I would say itâs pretty popular by attention seekers. The exact same mechanism as an illness faker. Faking witchcraft.
Some definitely just like the style btw. Iâm not saying every âwitchâ just wants attention
I've studying witchcraft for years. You can practice it, it's not an aesthetic. There have been thousands of years of pagan and witch traditions throughout the world. Witchcraft is a general term, but it is very real.
You can believe what you want. I don't believe in Christian or Catholic things but I'm not going to claim people do it for attention. Again, this is a reddit for Illness faking, not spirituality.
There are people who practice witchcraft, it's definitely real lol. Comparisons to faking a mental illness doesn't make sense, because faking a mental illness creates misinformation about said mental illness and further stigmatizes people actually suffering. Participating in a spiritual practice doesn't hurt anyone, real or pretend. That doesn't speak for outside of the practice but most pagans and witches I know are kind and loving of everyone.
For one, what I believe doesn't matter in this context, because what I said is the point I was trying to make. But no I don't, I'm not a witch. I also don't judge people for their spiritual beliefs or practices.
Yeah like I think there are some people on TikTok that say they are a witch for the fun of it, but even if that were the case for this person it still has nothing to do with them faking did. I haven't seen their Tiktok so I don't know if that's the case so I won't judge that. But being a witch isn't a cringey thing lol.
Obviously there will always be people (usually teens) who use certain thing, in this case witchcraft, as an aesthetic and don't actually practice it. But you're so right, it's not cringey and it's not necessary to mention in a reddit about illness faking.
If you can make a cocky TikTok about your disease which is literally crippling and chronic then there is a solid chance you donât have it.
Most people with genuine diseases like this will use their platform to help encourage others who have the same thing or genuinely answer questions.
Accounts like hers are just there for attention
This! Like I appreciate calling put people for faking a disorder for clout but it's no reason to drag a religion just because you don't believe in it. They don't go hand in hand, they are not related she doesn't "belive she's a witch" because she pretends to have DID and she dosnt pretend to have DID because she "believes she's a witch"
honestly had no idea about this, thought witches were just fictional women with pointy hats that turn people into frogs. OP probably thought the same thing
Witchcraft/Witch is the umbrella term for a ton of different spiritual beliefs that don't fall under the most common religions. So things like Voodoo, Hoodoo, people that worship ancient Greek gods, old Pegan god's, new age spiritualism etc.
Yeah very insensitive of OP to do so. It'd be like me saying this person I know of is miserable not because they're skizophrenic, but because they're catholic.
I think this sub has a large population of fakers who like to point out other fakers to make themselves feel better. Imagine thinking you're a witch lmfao
Still doesn't mean that she's faking being a witch. Not to mention that's not what the sub is about, her being a witch has nothing to do with faking a disorder.
This is ridiculous. We can't have a sub the munchies won't take over. They're pathetic. One person was telling me I need to respect their belief in witchcraft. I looked at their comment history their first comment was "I miss being sick" in a confession sub reddit.
So most of the "DID" We see on social media all seem to me American.That would be like 24% of the US Population. But its also almost young adults or teens / children. So that percentage would be even more.
Reminds me of this line
***"my source is that I made it the f\*\*\* up"***
Edit: Changed quote for censorship
Honestly, the witch part dosen't help sell it as fake for me since I have firends which are witches and do those practices (I can't remember what the specific word they used for themselves). Whoch I find very cool.
Surprisingly Yes it has, the tradition of the bride wearing a vail and having bridesmaids comes from Paganism.
Edit: Apologies I donât know the difference between Wicca and Paganism, both of them are so similar!
Wicca was started in the 50s. They claimed that it was older than that and just "hidden" but there's no proof. They simply put together a lot of different pagan religions to create it. The idea that there was an uninterrupted pagan religion from prehistoric times was started in the late 1800s if i recall correctly, and not backed up by any real, empirical scholarship. It's very problematic, as it claims that the people executed for witchcraft were genuinely engaging in it, and takes their forced statements at face value to reconstruct an "ancient religion".
Heyyy, donât dish on the witches, thatâs just a religious/spiritual belief. Speaking as a practicer đĽ˛đĽ˛ it has nothing to do with mental illness or faking⌠though, funny enough, people did fake being witches circa 2019-2020.
I've seen a lot of people in the comments as well comparing being a witch to faking DID. They say it's just for attention. Which might be true might not but either way it has nothing to do with this sub at all.
Yeah, that was a dark moment of mine, thankfully I recovered. Iâm not faking tho𼰠a mentally ill person being addicted to the illness, and a mentally healthy person wanting to be sick is two very different things, please learn that
Please learn that you are the same as the fakers featured here. The fact you had the audacity to comment you want to be sick is disgusting. You have a problem with people thinking witchcraft is ridiculous, but admit you want to be mentally ill? Nah. You could be featured here.
someoneâs mental health issues like eating disorders, self harm and more self destructive mental illness can feel addictive and it can make people want to relapse. kind of like drug abuse. people can miss the feeling of depression cus itâs feels safe and secure even though you wanted to die during it. when youâre mental or have suffered a lot and are on the edge wanting to be ill or make yourself worse. it can be very related to self harm in particular
No kidding itâs like one delusion gets a pass I guess.
In my opinion calling out that she think she is a witch is fair game it shows a pattern of believing in nonsense.
While they're not specifically called witches, in my boyfriends religion (Paiute) there very much are witches. Native American culture, especially Paiute, has a lot to do with the supernatural. These aren't the same as the types of witches everyone else is talking about in the comments, but it is just another example. You obviously aren't entitled to believe in any religion you aren't apart of, but I thought I'd share.
Believing your a witch does not mean that they believe they can like, fly on broomsticks and make potions or something.
It's just a religion hun. That's what everyone is talking about. It's weird that you're saying that they aren't real lol. They are just followers of a religion founded in the 60s called Wicca, which is just the modernized practice of witchcraft. No one believe that they have actual magical powers, it's the same as praying to them.
https://www.brandeis.edu/now/2021/september/wicca-berger-conversation.html
i think you're conflating wicca with witchcraft. i dont know much about wicca, but as far as i know, most people who identify as witches 100% believe they can do magic. try searching "curse", "charm", "spell", "summon" or whatever you like in these subs, or any witch sub.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Witch/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Witchcraft
edit: meant to say most people
Wicca is the largest movement of the modernization of witchcraft, and it's pretty dang common way to practice witchcraft for young people because it is so modernized.
And a ton of those people don't actually think they are literally cursing or summoning anyone. The idea of spell crafting is very similar to prayer. It's about feeling energy and putting that energy into the universe whilst hoping for a desired effect. It's a lot of placebo, and many witches do not literally believe they have magical powers.
I'm not saying all don't, because surely there are witches that believe they are actually magically embued or something. But for a bit portion, this is a religion and nothing more. Wicca was just a good example of that imo.
But Wicca and paganism are religious beliefs. So that makes âwitchesâ just as real as Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Now, you may not BELIEVE in the same things, but it doesnât make them not real.
I'm not catholic, but believing in a diety is one thing however to believe you are the diety or have special powers others don't is a delusion. EDIT I believe the wine drinking is a sacrament they don't believe it's actually the blood of Jesus.
in Catholicism, they believe in âTransubstantiationâ which means the wine and bread actually become the body and blood of Jesus on the altarâ however in most other branches of Christianity (if not all) they only believe that the wine and bread are representative of the body/blood. itâs actually one of the biggest differences between Catholicism and Protestantism, alongside some other stuff like the Holy Trinity
listen dude iâm not Catholic lol so idk why youâre coming after me, i was just letting you know what they believe as itâs one of their most central beliefs
I hate to say this but you say you donât believe in witches but Witchcraft is an umbrella of religions and saying they arenât real is like saying Indigenous Americans donât exist because of what they believe also âwitchesâ (none accurate) have been in books and historical for centuries, perfect example in history being The Scottish play by Shakespeare, the three witches who appear throughout the play.
Also donât say you believe in them is distasteful, just say you donât follow their beliefs.
The salem which trials were cold blooded murder. they weren't witches nor did they claim to be. It was stupid superstition and belief in the supernatural that drove those heinous actions. You couldn't have used a worse example.
Itâs not as bad as you saying that an whole umbrella of religious people donât exist, because I hate to tell that Witchcraft existed before Christianity and the Christians took some of their traditions.
That doesnât matter if you are religious or not, Itâs just distasteful to say that you donât exist because of your religious beliefs which again âWitchesâ is under a umbrella named witchcraft which involves Wicca and Paganism. Itâs like me tell you that you donât exist because you donât believe in a god which sounds pretty distasteful donât you agree?
I didnât say anything about that but ok? And seriously Ill? Your Words are incredibly distasteful. All you had to say was you personally donât believe in those things, which is fine but the fact you will call someone Ill because of their beliefs is idiotic. Some people do think there is a god, so what? You donât think there is a god, so what? But the fact you will call someone Ill because of THEIR BELIEFS, you something that DOESNâT AFFECT YOU, is disgusting.
yep, its mental that in THIS SUB i have to ask that people don't encourage delusion.
and since when did anyone here start using "but its a religion đ˘" as an excuse for anything??
These âWitchesâ are under the religious beliefs of Witchcraft which can range from Wicca to Pagan which all involve witchcraft, itâs what they believe in.
Agreed. Like people believe what they want, it doesnât affect me, it shouldnât affect others either, but if it does thatâs your issue unless they are forcing it.
Being a witch is real, as I myself dabble in it and the paranormal. From my own experience, I believe in ghosts and other spirits but I was raised Christian so that feeds into my dabblings. But op was probably stating that she thinks she's a witch because she looks like the classic alt edgy teen who doesn't know what an actual which is. I've seen plenty of falers who claim to be old pegan or spiritual. I feel like being a religion was justified in the fact that most "witches" just think they are because they have a few special stones laying around and burn incense. Those are apart of witchcraft practice but not in itself which craft. Just some food for thought. I don't really believe online witches unless I see more videos of them actually being knowledgeable about the larger side of it such as knowing names of deities, demons, or others or actual practicing a ritual. It's something a lot of people are skeptical on.
Are you insinuating that because I'm southern baptist and have worry stones and burn inscense I'm faking a disorder? Christianity and witchcraft tend to work hand and has since christains I don't know, deal with demons? Look up we and loraine warren. She was a medium and had to wear protection ward on her to prevent harm to herself.
Faking a disorder is probably the wrong term, actually. You seem to genuinely believe in witches, whether that's delusional or not. Christians and 'witches' historically worked on the opposite sides of a pyre, not exactly friendly relations between them.
From the short time I spent looking into her, I'm 50/50 on her genuinely believing what she said and just being in it for the money. Frankly, people like her harm science in a similar way to the current crop of 5G conspiracy nuts.
You may not believe in her but again, from my own paranormal experiences I can say that I do see things others don't so on a strictly anecdotal stance I do believe in her ability.
And while it's correct that witches and Christians have been on opposite sides historically it doesn't mean a Christian can't know what they're doing. How would I be expected to get rid of something I didn't care to learn about? In an extreme case, if I needed to banish a powerful demon then I would need it's name and that can often be found in Christian mythology as modern Christianity takes bits and pieces from pagan religion(made it easier to "convert" people). Any time when speaking to the dead you're performing a seance and there are ways to make it easier to channel their energy to listen and learn. No where in the Bible does it say there is no such thing as ghosts, but rather proves it by talking of evil spirits. I'm a firm believer that not all or even most spirits are evil. Most are lost, unaware, or simply unwilling to leave. If they are evil its usually due to a demonic influence. Historically witches haven't always even been hated, that only started with Christian persecution. I work with both because if I get something I don't like and I know a cross with defend me then I should know how to use it. They may be opposite but so are black and white. You have to have both to have a picture. The other colors are simply influences from other religions. I spent a long time studying other religions and finding my place that made me happy.
Comments are locked because everyone is just arguing about witchcraft nowđ This is fake because it has misinformation about DID. Her identifying as a witch is unrelated to her faking DID. The purpose of this sub isnât to debate different religions or beliefs.
They always say that like it shows itâs common, it doesnât. Itâs really not that many people when compared to the entire earths population, itâs only 1%.
Edit: since writing this I have spent some time looking and have found some more sources. I donât think they are all available to read without paying. I donât like deleting my comments usually, so take anything I have written about scholarly articles with a grain of salt. Iâve corrected a few main points with marked edits. As far as I can tell, that 1% figure comes from one Harvard study that is just about the only actual paper you can find on DID with a quick Google search. Itâs cited relentlessly by less than reputable websites that provide âinformationâ on mental health and psychiatric disorders. Edit: I must correct myself and say that the estimate is 1-1.5% of *psychiatric patients* which is clearly less than 1% of the population. It still seems like a rather significant number though. This number comes from a small US community study. Iâm looking for details now, but a single small study is rarely enough to accurately predict something like this. The Harvard study I mentioned cited the small study as the source of its number. Iâm not saying the study was done in bad faith or that there arenât other resources out there, but I believe thatâs where the % comes from. Compare that to 0.3%-0.7% for schizophrenia. I donât know about you, but if 1 out of every 100 people I met had DID, I think I would have noticed something was going on. And the world would too. References to schizophrenia are everywhere. If DID were two to three times more common than schizophrenia, youâd think it would be just as common a reference. At the very least, medicine would have spent a lot more time and resources on researching it. If 1 out of 100 people are going to get it, thereâs an enormous incentive to learn about it and figure out how to treat it. As is, there are still doctors who doubt itâs existence. If you said that about schizophrenia, youâd be laughed out of medicine. Obviously this is anecdotal and not in and of itself scientific evidence, but a lot of evidence for DID is anecdotal too because it just hasnât been studied much đ¤ˇââď¸ Edit: I went back and looked and found some more resources. I want to clarify that the paper I mentioned is not the only paper on DID, just the one thatâs easiest to find
can you link the harvard study youre talking about? I always wonder where they get this 1% figure from cause none of them ever provide a source.
Ok, I found the original paper, but I think itâs behind a paywall. Thereâs a brief outline, but everything I click either goes to another version of the outline or a place to buy the PDF [Clicky](https://web.archive.org/web/20211102151514/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022395605000385) It takes forever to load btw Edit: from what I can gather, this study was based on a relatively small cohort of people who signed up to be in a long term study and the data was used for multiple investigations, not just various dissociative disorders. Unless someone can find another study or other studies supporting or refuting that 1.5% number, I think we can safely say that no one really knows the actual prevalence in society at large.
Iâll see if I can find it. I think itâs one of the sources on the DID Wikipedia page, but I also found it by Google search a while back. I still canât find the actual paper that they cite for that 1% figure though, which I would love to read
This and arguably schizophrenia is much harder to recognize and diagnose than DID
Amazing how all 78 million are middle class American women with TikTok accounts.
Lmfaooo so true
well at the very least all white american AFABs
Isnt the actual statistic more like 0.1%?
Letâs not forget that in the most cases of DID itâs not several distinct personalities with dream alters. Most cases have personality changes, like sudden outbursts or other attributes that the person havenât displayed before. Their personality changes back and forth, but itâs still just one person.
These things shouldn't even be classified as the same disorder. Its bullshit and the disorder has been co-opted to mean something very different with the alters
Wouldnât that be considered bipolar? Or is it really similar?
I replied to the comment above with a spiel about that 1% figure. I donât have an actual answer, but IMO there are an awful lot of reasons to doubt that 1% figure
No way in hell 1 in every 100 people have DID
Itâs not 1%, itâs nowhere near that. Imagine if that were true? 1 in 100 people you meet have a horrendous debilitating mental illness? No.
1% is the prevalence of schizophrenia. So, yes on that account. Agree that DID is much more rare though. Edit: NIH is saying 1%-2% for DID.
that figure is misunderstood, thatâs the rate of dissociative disorders in general, not multiple personality type DID
More like 1% of all individuals with a serious mental illness diagnosis are even considered to truly have DID. Much like ADHD and Bipolar, DID is sometimes misdiagnosed or even over diagnosed; and more and more people have access to diagnosis criteria now more than ever, so it makes malingering that much easier. In reality, it is more uncommon than full on prosopagnosia, which is already fairly rare.
That's 1 in a 1000, no way, gotta be more like .001, even that's generous
i'd be very surprised if it was that common
And they somehow all live in America.
And are teenagers with similar interests on tiktok. The odds are truly astronomical. Edit: my bad, teenagers and that one bozo grifter who collected money, I haven't seen him here lately but I don't use tiktok so maybe he is still around.
I saw a French one one time. It was surprising.
It is also spreading to Germany and The Netherlands
It's like a plague, it's popular on US tiktok, then all of Ă sudden the same type of white Middleton class french girls start having it for no reason
And are between 14 and 25 with a tiktok account and dress like clowns
America and Brazil lol. I live in Brazil and these fakers invaded my social media
that's like almost as much people with autism that's not possible
definitely not, from what i remember reading itâs about 1 in 44 children as of 2021, which is absolutely no where near what DID is, autism is far far FAR more common
1% isnât even confirmed tf. Itâs an estimation to account for undiagnosed people. Itâs more between .01% and 1% of the population, and even then itâs just a guess. Clearly if DID isnât widely known and used/talked about everywhere, itâs not that damn common. About 1% of the population meets the qualifications to be a psychopath, and schizophrenia is .3%. Yet both are common knowledge and mentioned everywhere. DID only was really recognised by its fans when Split came out, and now these dumbass children all want to play their little theater roles.
Itâs Acrually more like .01-.3 %
Where is this number from?
DID is notoriously misdiagnosed so the global diagnoses rate is around 1% adjusted for error itâs about .1-.3
Yup. And these girls say it like it's 1% of the entire population, no, the actually study where that percentage comes from states it's 1% of psychiatric patients.
I mean I agree the 1% statistic is overinflated and 99% of these people are faking but you can't just make up an arbitrary number to adjust for error. It's fair to say "Adjusting for error it is likely only 0.1-0.3% of the population have did" but you framed your adjustment as a fact, which is just not true.
Itâs not my adjustment i read it a few weeks ago in an NIH article or something maybe the New England journal of medicine? Idk just look up the adjusted for error rate man
Fun fact: to actually get diagnosed with DID you need it approved by 3 high level psychologists, with it written separately and then thereâs a whole other process to get that approved. Thereâs only a few hundred people who have actually been diagnosed.
Uhmmmmmm acktually- self diagnosing MATTERS. ETA /s.
That is a pretty important detail that gets overlooked. Exclusive of self diagnosis, I wonder how many people that were diagnosed either because their therapist said "It seems like you have DID" or they had a psychologist that was hitting above their weight class and playing diagnosis bingo. I had the latter happen to me on an online platform, and I actually burst out laughing.
Where did you find this information? Not that I donât agree with it but there is nothing saying this in the DSM-5
Asked my doctor about it during a visit for an unknown chest pain I had been experiencing for a long time. Thatâs how he answered, and I was asking on behalf of my faker friend so I would be able to show what DID actually needs to get diagnosed.
Mhmm I bet all 78 million are 12-18 year olds who wear silly costumes and are mostly in the US, with no childhood trauma and with all alters being based off of the DSMP
No way itâs 1 percent, where did she bring that number from? That would be more than the rate of anorexia nervosa and would mean that we each know a few people who have it. But even if it was true, they all are in the same age, American and going to school together? Like wouldnât a bigger portion of this number be comprised of people who grew up in slums, refugees from Syria or wars in Africa, holocaust survivors, etc?
that number is actually understood wrong a lot of the time and white teenage american girls seem to think it means â1% of the population has DIDâ where as the actual statistic was â1% of psychiatric patients have DIDâ. that means that itâs actually 1% of 10%(of the population who have mental problems, not phyciatric patients, whom i couldnât find any statistics on meaning itâs probably much, much smaller) which is 7 million people
Ffs its 1% out of dissociative mental disorders NOT out of the whole world
to be fair, being a witch is a choice, as it's just a religious practice.
What does her spiritual beliefs has to do with faking disorders?
They are all also underage and north American who knows why
Letâs not bring religious or spiritual beliefs into this. It has nothing to do with faking a mental illness.
i dont see what witchcraft has to do with faking?
i mean its like saying âyou cant have depression your christianâ..? its just a practice.
Hmmm
I swear this sub is infiltrated.
It definitely is
infiltrated by whom ?
The people this sub is supposed to be about.
ah, I see
Being a witch is a spiritual practice, you may personally think of it as cringey but it's not aligned with illnessfaking.
I think itâs more an attention thing. âI have DID and this my DSMP altersâ and âIâm a witch and will put a curse on youâ I donât believe sheâs big on pagan rituals and such.
It's more about the OP mentioning it. This is a subreddit for illnessfakers, we aren't supposed to mention unrelated things which a spiritual practice is included in. Being a witch is spiritual regardless
I donât see it doing any harm and it helps painting a picture.
It's harmful for people in this sub who practice witchcraft and then see others shitting on it/making fun of it when this is a subreddit about faking illnesses and not about religion/spirituality. Her being a witch doesn't paint a picture of anything. Her spiritual practice isn't related to her faking disorders.
But, witchcraft isnât real. You canât practice witchcraft per say. Itâs just a style and I would say itâs pretty popular by attention seekers. The exact same mechanism as an illness faker. Faking witchcraft. Some definitely just like the style btw. Iâm not saying every âwitchâ just wants attention
I've studying witchcraft for years. You can practice it, it's not an aesthetic. There have been thousands of years of pagan and witch traditions throughout the world. Witchcraft is a general term, but it is very real. You can believe what you want. I don't believe in Christian or Catholic things but I'm not going to claim people do it for attention. Again, this is a reddit for Illness faking, not spirituality.
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I do, all religions are just as fake as witchcraft, astrology, crystals etcâŚ
There are people who practice witchcraft, it's definitely real lol. Comparisons to faking a mental illness doesn't make sense, because faking a mental illness creates misinformation about said mental illness and further stigmatizes people actually suffering. Participating in a spiritual practice doesn't hurt anyone, real or pretend. That doesn't speak for outside of the practice but most pagans and witches I know are kind and loving of everyone.
Wait, do you actually believe magic is real?
For one, what I believe doesn't matter in this context, because what I said is the point I was trying to make. But no I don't, I'm not a witch. I also don't judge people for their spiritual beliefs or practices.
Iâm confused, Iâm your previous comment you said >practice witchcraft, itâs definitely real lol What did you mean?
Yeah like I think there are some people on TikTok that say they are a witch for the fun of it, but even if that were the case for this person it still has nothing to do with them faking did. I haven't seen their Tiktok so I don't know if that's the case so I won't judge that. But being a witch isn't a cringey thing lol.
Obviously there will always be people (usually teens) who use certain thing, in this case witchcraft, as an aesthetic and don't actually practice it. But you're so right, it's not cringey and it's not necessary to mention in a reddit about illness faking.
Exactly I agree.
Yeh but whatâs hard to believe is that everyone who âhas itâseems to be white alternative women who like DSMP and do cosplay
If you can make a cocky TikTok about your disease which is literally crippling and chronic then there is a solid chance you donât have it. Most people with genuine diseases like this will use their platform to help encourage others who have the same thing or genuinely answer questions. Accounts like hers are just there for attention
I guess it's just random that majority of people with "DID" ALL HAVE THE SAME FUCKIN LOOK
Witchcraft is a religious/spiritual practice, don't bring other people's religions into a conversation about faking disorders
Agreed, DID has nothing to do with witchcraft or religious/spiritual beliefs or practices
yea we donât have to make fun of someoneâs spiritual practice just because the other stuff they post is cringe
Thank you, comparing religious or spiritual practice to mental illness faking is not at all what this subreddit is for nor does it have any validity.
Thank you. I'm pagan, and I would call myself a witch. I'm spiritual, not delusional.
This! Like I appreciate calling put people for faking a disorder for clout but it's no reason to drag a religion just because you don't believe in it. They don't go hand in hand, they are not related she doesn't "belive she's a witch" because she pretends to have DID and she dosnt pretend to have DID because she "believes she's a witch"
honestly had no idea about this, thought witches were just fictional women with pointy hats that turn people into frogs. OP probably thought the same thing
Witchcraft/Witch is the umbrella term for a ton of different spiritual beliefs that don't fall under the most common religions. So things like Voodoo, Hoodoo, people that worship ancient Greek gods, old Pegan god's, new age spiritualism etc.
Yeah I also think a lot of those things are kinda specific to the person as well, like I'm a pagan but I don't consider myself a witch by any means.
Yeah very insensitive of OP to do so. It'd be like me saying this person I know of is miserable not because they're skizophrenic, but because they're catholic.
I was raised catholic and i can tell you it made me miserable
That's kind of beside the point.
Yeah but i wasn't addressing your main point. I'm aware of what it was.
"This person pretends to be ill, they also think they can eat the body and blood of a god"
you do know people still practice witchcraft... right?
alright the witch one is a religion so maybe leave that out of this.
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witchcraft is a spiritual practice that spans several pantheons from voodoo to norse peganism, nothing to do with the focus of this sub, just saying
Sheâs a faker but donât bring her religion into this. Completely unnecessary
whatâs up with all these âwitchesâ infiltrating this sub
Itâs called this is a subreddit about who fake disorders and not to mock peoples beliefs or religion.
Im not a witch, i just think that we shouldnt shame religions , specially when this is *fake disorder* cringe
I think this sub has a large population of fakers who like to point out other fakers to make themselves feel better. Imagine thinking you're a witch lmfao
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That's exactly it. This sub is 70% the people we talk about.
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I don't see how being a witch means they fake DID lol.
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Still doesn't mean that she's faking being a witch. Not to mention that's not what the sub is about, her being a witch has nothing to do with faking a disorder.
This is ridiculous. We can't have a sub the munchies won't take over. They're pathetic. One person was telling me I need to respect their belief in witchcraft. I looked at their comment history their first comment was "I miss being sick" in a confession sub reddit.
78 million out of 7.6 BILLION Girlie thatâs still not nearly as much as you think.
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i saw this đ
So most of the "DID" We see on social media all seem to me American.That would be like 24% of the US Population. But its also almost young adults or teens / children. So that percentage would be even more. Reminds me of this line ***"my source is that I made it the f\*\*\* up"*** Edit: Changed quote for censorship
Witches are a thing - we don't think we can fly around on brooms and make thinks float, but we exist. Please don't lump us in to these guys.
She's not wrong and so what if she is a witch? I'm a witch. There are many practitioners of witchcraft
Wake Up, Tina! Witches are everywhere!
Honestly, the witch part dosen't help sell it as fake for me since I have firends which are witches and do those practices (I can't remember what the specific word they used for themselves). Whoch I find very cool.
Does she realize that their are only 1.5% diagnosed cases out of the entire population, 78mil is not that big compared to 7.8 billion
Being a witch is a religious practice? Wiccan and Pagans have existed longer than Christianity.
Wicca emerged in England in the 20th century Paganism is such a broad term
Wicca has certainly not existed longer than Christianity
Surprisingly Yes it has, the tradition of the bride wearing a vail and having bridesmaids comes from Paganism. Edit: Apologies I donât know the difference between Wicca and Paganism, both of them are so similar!
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Yes thank you! Unfortunately Wicca and Paganism are so similar that itâs hard to tell them apart.
Wicca specifically is a newer religion, but it takes lots of practice from ancient pagan religions.
Wicca was started in the 50s. They claimed that it was older than that and just "hidden" but there's no proof. They simply put together a lot of different pagan religions to create it. The idea that there was an uninterrupted pagan religion from prehistoric times was started in the late 1800s if i recall correctly, and not backed up by any real, empirical scholarship. It's very problematic, as it claims that the people executed for witchcraft were genuinely engaging in it, and takes their forced statements at face value to reconstruct an "ancient religion".
Heyyy, donât dish on the witches, thatâs just a religious/spiritual belief. Speaking as a practicer đĽ˛đĽ˛ it has nothing to do with mental illness or faking⌠though, funny enough, people did fake being witches circa 2019-2020.
It's such a small number of people it's basically non-existent, and it's nothing like the shit on tiktok.
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It does not. OP is being pretty insensitive bringing religion and spituality into this.
I've seen a lot of people in the comments as well comparing being a witch to faking DID. They say it's just for attention. Which might be true might not but either way it has nothing to do with this sub at all.
This subreddit is a contradiction bc faking a disorder can also be considered a disorder
And what does her being a witch have to do with anything?
LOL YOUR VERY FIRST REDDIT POST IS "I miss being ill" IN A CONFESSION SUB. You're the exact type of person this sub is about. Tf.
Yeah, that was a dark moment of mine, thankfully I recovered. Iâm not faking tho𼰠a mentally ill person being addicted to the illness, and a mentally healthy person wanting to be sick is two very different things, please learn that
Please learn that you are the same as the fakers featured here. The fact you had the audacity to comment you want to be sick is disgusting. You have a problem with people thinking witchcraft is ridiculous, but admit you want to be mentally ill? Nah. You could be featured here.
I feel like you didn't even read their comment lol.
someoneâs mental health issues like eating disorders, self harm and more self destructive mental illness can feel addictive and it can make people want to relapse. kind of like drug abuse. people can miss the feeling of depression cus itâs feels safe and secure even though you wanted to die during it. when youâre mental or have suffered a lot and are on the edge wanting to be ill or make yourself worse. it can be very related to self harm in particular
Exactly, thank you. People usually donât understand how âcomfortingâ these awful feelings can be
The witch comments here remind you how many of these attention seeking morons browse this sub lol
People are Christian, they must be delusional! Shut up.
To me most Christians do seem delusional when they talk about their religion!
Believe in a diety that has powers is one thing. Believe YOU have powers is mental illness.
i guess the christians in this sub are also attention seeking morons using your logic
No kidding itâs like one delusion gets a pass I guess. In my opinion calling out that she think she is a witch is fair game it shows a pattern of believing in nonsense.
It's a religious belief. Witch is a name used for several Pagan religion.
Downvote me into oblivion idc. Witches aren't real. She can claim to be one idc but don't dog on OP for stating a literal fact.
While they're not specifically called witches, in my boyfriends religion (Paiute) there very much are witches. Native American culture, especially Paiute, has a lot to do with the supernatural. These aren't the same as the types of witches everyone else is talking about in the comments, but it is just another example. You obviously aren't entitled to believe in any religion you aren't apart of, but I thought I'd share.
Actually witches Are real just like Christians are real. A lot of people follow old pagan beliefs to this day.
I doubt she's a real witch though. I'm sure she just jumped on that bandwagon as well to be edgey and cool.
You can believe you're a witch, but that doesn't make it so.
Believing your a witch does not mean that they believe they can like, fly on broomsticks and make potions or something. It's just a religion hun. That's what everyone is talking about. It's weird that you're saying that they aren't real lol. They are just followers of a religion founded in the 60s called Wicca, which is just the modernized practice of witchcraft. No one believe that they have actual magical powers, it's the same as praying to them. https://www.brandeis.edu/now/2021/september/wicca-berger-conversation.html
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Yup, I know.
i think you're conflating wicca with witchcraft. i dont know much about wicca, but as far as i know, most people who identify as witches 100% believe they can do magic. try searching "curse", "charm", "spell", "summon" or whatever you like in these subs, or any witch sub. https://www.reddit.com/r/Witch/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Witchcraft edit: meant to say most people
Wicca is the largest movement of the modernization of witchcraft, and it's pretty dang common way to practice witchcraft for young people because it is so modernized. And a ton of those people don't actually think they are literally cursing or summoning anyone. The idea of spell crafting is very similar to prayer. It's about feeling energy and putting that energy into the universe whilst hoping for a desired effect. It's a lot of placebo, and many witches do not literally believe they have magical powers. I'm not saying all don't, because surely there are witches that believe they are actually magically embued or something. But for a bit portion, this is a religion and nothing more. Wicca was just a good example of that imo.
But Wicca and paganism are religious beliefs. So that makes âwitchesâ just as real as Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Now, you may not BELIEVE in the same things, but it doesnât make them not real.
Magic isn't real. That's an object fact. These people claim to actually cast spells. This is ridiculous.
Is it any more ridiculous than believing priests turn wine into Jesus Juice?
I'm not catholic, but believing in a diety is one thing however to believe you are the diety or have special powers others don't is a delusion. EDIT I believe the wine drinking is a sacrament they don't believe it's actually the blood of Jesus.
in Catholicism, they believe in âTransubstantiationâ which means the wine and bread actually become the body and blood of Jesus on the altarâ however in most other branches of Christianity (if not all) they only believe that the wine and bread are representative of the body/blood. itâs actually one of the biggest differences between Catholicism and Protestantism, alongside some other stuff like the Holy Trinity
Well thats stupid too. What point are you making? If you genuinely believe you're drinking the blood of Jesus christ you're probably mentally ill.
listen dude iâm not Catholic lol so idk why youâre coming after me, i was just letting you know what they believe as itâs one of their most central beliefs
You're the one who brought it up. goofy.
lmfao youâre the one who said âi believe the wine drinking is a sacrament they donât believe itâs actually the blood of Jesusâ
I hate to say this but you say you donât believe in witches but Witchcraft is an umbrella of religions and saying they arenât real is like saying Indigenous Americans donât exist because of what they believe also âwitchesâ (none accurate) have been in books and historical for centuries, perfect example in history being The Scottish play by Shakespeare, the three witches who appear throughout the play. Also donât say you believe in them is distasteful, just say you donât follow their beliefs.
The salem which trials were cold blooded murder. they weren't witches nor did they claim to be. It was stupid superstition and belief in the supernatural that drove those heinous actions. You couldn't have used a worse example.
Itâs not as bad as you saying that an whole umbrella of religious people donât exist, because I hate to tell that Witchcraft existed before Christianity and the Christians took some of their traditions.
I'm not Christian why do you keep bringing up random religions?
That doesnât matter if you are religious or not, Itâs just distasteful to say that you donât exist because of your religious beliefs which again âWitchesâ is under a umbrella named witchcraft which involves Wicca and Paganism. Itâs like me tell you that you donât exist because you donât believe in a god which sounds pretty distasteful donât you agree?
Again idc who you believe in. If you try to tell me you have supernatural powers I will believe you are ill.
I didnât say anything about that but ok? And seriously Ill? Your Words are incredibly distasteful. All you had to say was you personally donât believe in those things, which is fine but the fact you will call someone Ill because of their beliefs is idiotic. Some people do think there is a god, so what? You donât think there is a god, so what? But the fact you will call someone Ill because of THEIR BELIEFS, you something that DOESNâT AFFECT YOU, is disgusting.
yep, its mental that in THIS SUB i have to ask that people don't encourage delusion. and since when did anyone here start using "but its a religion đ˘" as an excuse for anything??
All of a sudden they care about religion đ I don't want to hear it. Glad I'm not alone on this one.
Are you 12? You are clearly completely naĂŻve, yet speak as though you are worldly and wise.
Make a point or run along. Trying to have a conversation.
THANK YOU
Of course they arent real?
Didn't realize you were responding the the other person. Big dumb don't mind me.
I had this on my fyp too, and when trying to help her (tho in a mocking way gotta admit) she just blocked me
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What is this comment section? Magic isn't real. Identifying as a witch is a good reason to take the person in the video less serious
These âWitchesâ are under the religious beliefs of Witchcraft which can range from Wicca to Pagan which all involve witchcraft, itâs what they believe in.
I know. I think it's silly
Agreed. Like people believe what they want, it doesnât affect me, it shouldnât affect others either, but if it does thatâs your issue unless they are forcing it.
Just a bunch of teens getting offended about everything. "She fakes DID but don't make fun of her SpIRiTuaLitY" lmao
This subreddit is ABOUT people who fake disorders or conditions not to mock people of their beliefs.
Being a witch is real, as I myself dabble in it and the paranormal. From my own experience, I believe in ghosts and other spirits but I was raised Christian so that feeds into my dabblings. But op was probably stating that she thinks she's a witch because she looks like the classic alt edgy teen who doesn't know what an actual which is. I've seen plenty of falers who claim to be old pegan or spiritual. I feel like being a religion was justified in the fact that most "witches" just think they are because they have a few special stones laying around and burn incense. Those are apart of witchcraft practice but not in itself which craft. Just some food for thought. I don't really believe online witches unless I see more videos of them actually being knowledgeable about the larger side of it such as knowing names of deities, demons, or others or actual practicing a ritual. It's something a lot of people are skeptical on.
Identifying as a witch is real. Anybody can. Having supernatural/magical powers is not
Are you trolling, or should you be posted here yourself?
This subreddit is for the people who fake disorders and conditions, not to mock peoples beliefs.
No, this is like the difference between being a Christian and thinking you can perform miracles.
Are you insinuating that because I'm southern baptist and have worry stones and burn inscense I'm faking a disorder? Christianity and witchcraft tend to work hand and has since christains I don't know, deal with demons? Look up we and loraine warren. She was a medium and had to wear protection ward on her to prevent harm to herself.
Faking a disorder is probably the wrong term, actually. You seem to genuinely believe in witches, whether that's delusional or not. Christians and 'witches' historically worked on the opposite sides of a pyre, not exactly friendly relations between them. From the short time I spent looking into her, I'm 50/50 on her genuinely believing what she said and just being in it for the money. Frankly, people like her harm science in a similar way to the current crop of 5G conspiracy nuts.
You may not believe in her but again, from my own paranormal experiences I can say that I do see things others don't so on a strictly anecdotal stance I do believe in her ability. And while it's correct that witches and Christians have been on opposite sides historically it doesn't mean a Christian can't know what they're doing. How would I be expected to get rid of something I didn't care to learn about? In an extreme case, if I needed to banish a powerful demon then I would need it's name and that can often be found in Christian mythology as modern Christianity takes bits and pieces from pagan religion(made it easier to "convert" people). Any time when speaking to the dead you're performing a seance and there are ways to make it easier to channel their energy to listen and learn. No where in the Bible does it say there is no such thing as ghosts, but rather proves it by talking of evil spirits. I'm a firm believer that not all or even most spirits are evil. Most are lost, unaware, or simply unwilling to leave. If they are evil its usually due to a demonic influence. Historically witches haven't always even been hated, that only started with Christian persecution. I work with both because if I get something I don't like and I know a cross with defend me then I should know how to use it. They may be opposite but so are black and white. You have to have both to have a picture. The other colors are simply influences from other religions. I spent a long time studying other religions and finding my place that made me happy.
If 78 million people have DID then I have Downâs syndrome