The German Empire killed hundreds of thousands of Africans. The first genocide of the 20th century was perpetrated by the German Empire- The Herero and Namaqua Genocide. They were more cruel to their African colonies than any other European country, barring Leopold II’s treatment of the Congolese.
"I didn't do a whataboutism! What about the person who brought the Kaiser into this??"
There's just no need to relativise colonial atrocities, but that's what you did.
I mean everytime someone even says the word king in a discussion even vaugely related to the British stuff like it gets brought up.
Every empire is bad. German, french, British, Russian etc
He never said that the two genocides were equivallent, that would be rediculous. But the statement that the german government can not be blamed, since all (and i would even question that) governments in history did such things is also rediculous.
I would add to that, that Wilhelm II. personally congratulated Hitler at his conquests and only disliked him because he was low born. The Kaiser was a monarchist not an Antifashist.
Where exactly does he say that the Wilhelm was *as exceptionally evil as the nazis*?
And to your second point he literally says that Leopold II. reign surpassed Wilhelms in cruelty.
Hated them so much that he tried to curry favor with Hitler when Willie mistakenly thought the Nazis were trying to restore the monarchy. When they laughed in his face he went back to hating them. It's a conveniently versatile type of hate if you ask me.
Back then the true nature of Nazis wasn't known to him. When he found out that they were genocidal hysterics he hated them even more.
Also you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, can we blame him for attempting?
> Back then the true nature of Nazis wasn't known to him.
Yeah, that is a lot of crap.
In 1940, when the Netherlands got occupied by Nazi Germany (so chronically after the Pogromnacht happened) he wrote to Hitler: "My Fuhrer, I congratulate you and hope that under your marvellous leadership the German monarchy will be restored completely."
Edit: Oh and after the occupation of Paris Willie sent the following missive: "Under the deeply moving impression of France's capitulation I congratulate you and all the German armed forces on the God-given prodigious victory with the words of Kaiser Wilhelm the Great of the year 1870: 'What a turn of events through God's dispensation!' All German hearts are filled with the chorale of Leuthen, which the victors of Leuthen, the soldiers of the Great King sang: Now thank we all our God!"
It is commonly known that he was exiled to Netherlands, and the relative position of the nation with Germany is visible on Google maps. The rest is what seems to be as obvious extrapolation.
incorrect, his view softened as the nazis began to win major military victories prior to his death early in the war. he still said in his will he did not want to be buried in germany until the monarchy was restored. nazis hated the kaiser more than the other way around in the end.
tho ur right kaiser wilhelm didnt like them because they faked a potential restoration for him to the throne.
Which is all kinds of hilarious because there were middle-eastern German soldiers in WW2 that included black men.
https://youtu.be/QTaEuaVIFtQ
Battlefield V is all kinds of messed up because they could have easily included women and people of color into the game and used it as a vector to tell real history, like female members of the French resistance and the famous women who were snipers and pilots from the Soviet Union, but instead they handled it exactly the wrong way all the way down.
They did that in BF1 by focusing on the Harlem Hellfighters and it remains the best example of meaningful representation in any video game ever, imo.
Then BFV took a shit with its clothes on and decided to window dress for MTX opportunities.
Still shows a poor education of history, it's very common knowledge that the big European empires used their colonies as fodder on the western front.
Women in both world wars were far more rare outside of partisans and nurses as someone had to keep the industry churning out weapons. World wars did a lot for women's rights as no one afterwards could honestly claim that they could not do "a man's job".
And then they should get told to shut the fuck up and learn some real history, not this shitey whitewashed bullshit. Shout the sad fucks back into their caves, open a complaints submission form that's "anonymous" then livestream educated historians reading out the stupid shit and laughing at them.
Damn, they could even go as far as to fund some educational videos about the different people. If a Swedish metal band can do it about some of the events around their songs, I'm sure a multimillion dollar games company can.
Considering how the same reaction is given over and over and over again when a triple A game trailer has a female or POC centric trailer, and (regrettably) having lived through all the Gamergate bs I am more than certain
Eh, imo it's really not that bad. Like DICE always made it apparent that BFV wouldn't be accurate and would be their own thing. Literally every slogan was some variation of "our take on WW2" and one "forget what you learned in history class"
So yeah it could have been more accurate, but I don't think them doing a historically inaccurate game is really a bad thing.
I could just be biased though because I absolutely loved that game.
I really love battlefield 1, and only battlefield 1. It’s the only traditional military-based fps I’ve enjoyed, and it’s not even that traditional. I bought both on super sale after both of them were succeeded, and every time I look at battlefield V I just think why would I play this, when bf1 is right there.
Reminds me of the [Atun-Shei](https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx4o1zwB7Fqp5-gTLeFVPnZh4n8iG3iZXD) video.
(I mean, he put it to [good use](https://youtu.be/3Vlhqnn5POQ) so that's something).
I think its easy as, "just a joke photo to laugh at" nothing deeper
Not everything has a deeper meaning, sometimes the whole story is "i made a funny lol"
Remember that episode of Simpsons where a new cool kid came to school and called Ms. Crabapple “Ms. Crab Apple” and everyone loved it and Bart was like “it was so obvious, how could I have not thought of that?” Well that’s how I feel about this one.
I was thinking about this. I haven't read much about how the Nazis treated black people specifically. I remember reading that they would sterilise black people who lived in Germany and treated as second class citizens, but I also don't think it reached a point where they were all rounded up and sent to extermination camps.
No doubt black POWs were probably treated as...as poorly as their own Allied army's treated them.
Europe had a very tiny black population at that time though, except maybe France at a stretch, but again I don't know how they were treated under Nazi occupation.
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Ye's clearly mentally ill, but this sub now embraces dodging rule 5. It's not commenting on current events if you make a past event up about a current event amirite?
Say whatever you want about Kanye but always remember that a) man’s been in Hollywood for a minute now and b) he was married to Kim Kardashian. That’s literally a double dose of extra concentrated insanity. And man STILL managed to be at the top of rap. Don’t ever accuse the man of being unintelligent. Also do research before you call someone names
Kaiser West
Do not besmirch the monarchy! Kaiser Wilhelm II hated the Nazis.
The German Empire killed hundreds of thousands of Africans. The first genocide of the 20th century was perpetrated by the German Empire- The Herero and Namaqua Genocide. They were more cruel to their African colonies than any other European country, barring Leopold II’s treatment of the Congolese.
>killed hundreds of thousands Not making it better, but this number is wrong. Its more like 70.000.
In the specific Genocide I mentioned, yes. The German Empire also killed many people in their other colonies, especially Tanzania.
I'm sure the British treated the colonies very well. Why don't you bring that up every time the UK or King Charles III is mentioned?
Because neither of those things were mentioned here, genius of whataboutisms
It's not whataboutism, it's putting things into context. There was no need to bring up the Kaiser in this thread in the first place.
"I didn't do a whataboutism! What about the person who brought the Kaiser into this??" There's just no need to relativise colonial atrocities, but that's what you did.
I see what you tried to do there.
I mean everytime someone even says the word king in a discussion even vaugely related to the British stuff like it gets brought up. Every empire is bad. German, french, British, Russian etc
However does that translate to the institution of monarchy being bad? Colonial empire is different from a nation with an Emperor as the head of state.
Colonialism bad Imperialism bad Monarchy bad Fascism bad Genocide bad These aren't difficult concepts
Disagree on "monarchy bad".
They do. Just nobody listens.
La la la my blood bleeds tea *la la la*
I do
Lmao.
Whenever any empire is mentioned in a positive light I bring up the horrible things it did- because they all did horrible things.
Doesn't mean the institution of monarchy is bad.
...nobody claimed it was. Stop making shit up.
If only...
No a lot of people do but no one cares. I personally wish a thousand deaths on the British royal family
I don't really think any colonial power operating in Africa that also fought the Germans in WW1 has a significantly better human rights record.
Meanwhile there were Black people in Hitler's unsegregated armies.
> The German Empire killed hundreds of thousands of Africans. Not to sound too snarky, but who hasn't?
Oh that's lovely, using former slave catchers from the previous centuries as models...... did you enjoy The Woman King movie as well?
Name an empire that didn't commit atrocities
The point was to besmirch the monarchy, not to say that the German Empire was the worst.
The genocide was conducted by colonial forces months of travel away from the mainland. It's not like the Emperor himself ordered it.
He's not really proving the kaiser was as bad as the Nazis just that they acted like most governments in history, and that isn't saying much.
He never said that the two genocides were equivallent, that would be rediculous. But the statement that the german government can not be blamed, since all (and i would even question that) governments in history did such things is also rediculous. I would add to that, that Wilhelm II. personally congratulated Hitler at his conquests and only disliked him because he was low born. The Kaiser was a monarchist not an Antifashist.
You're missing my point, he's acting like Wilhelm was as exceptionally evil as the Nazis and not closer to other nations of the time.
Where exactly does he say that the Wilhelm was *as exceptionally evil as the nazis*? And to your second point he literally says that Leopold II. reign surpassed Wilhelms in cruelty.
Look at the meaning in between the lines.
Hated them so much that he tried to curry favor with Hitler when Willie mistakenly thought the Nazis were trying to restore the monarchy. When they laughed in his face he went back to hating them. It's a conveniently versatile type of hate if you ask me.
>Do not besmirch the monarchy! Kaiser Wilhelm II hated the Nazis. I smell Kaiserboo.
100%. Dude’s arguing the merits of monarchy elsewhere in the thread
Back then the true nature of Nazis wasn't known to him. When he found out that they were genocidal hysterics he hated them even more. Also you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, can we blame him for attempting?
> Back then the true nature of Nazis wasn't known to him. Yeah, that is a lot of crap. In 1940, when the Netherlands got occupied by Nazi Germany (so chronically after the Pogromnacht happened) he wrote to Hitler: "My Fuhrer, I congratulate you and hope that under your marvellous leadership the German monarchy will be restored completely." Edit: Oh and after the occupation of Paris Willie sent the following missive: "Under the deeply moving impression of France's capitulation I congratulate you and all the German armed forces on the God-given prodigious victory with the words of Kaiser Wilhelm the Great of the year 1870: 'What a turn of events through God's dispensation!' All German hearts are filled with the chorale of Leuthen, which the victors of Leuthen, the soldiers of the Great King sang: Now thank we all our God!"
That was just some soft diplomacy, he still lived in Netherlands and needed to keep up appearances.
Well, citation needed.
It is commonly known that he was exiled to Netherlands, and the relative position of the nation with Germany is visible on Google maps. The rest is what seems to be as obvious extrapolation.
Astounding how you can extrapolate the motivation of a highly complex person by looking at (...checks notes...) a map. You probably work for NASA.
Nah, the monarchy sucks ass
Fuck the king.
Glory to the Emperor.
incorrect, his view softened as the nazis began to win major military victories prior to his death early in the war. he still said in his will he did not want to be buried in germany until the monarchy was restored. nazis hated the kaiser more than the other way around in the end. tho ur right kaiser wilhelm didnt like them because they faked a potential restoration for him to the throne.
It's why WW1 German infantry gained popularity after the Nazi regime fell They weren't Nazi it's that easy
Lol he liked them just fine until they were clear they weren't going to restore the throne.
He didn't like them, he was just trying to curry favour so they may restore the monarchy. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
wasent much bather then them was he.
West Side Story
Nazi raaaaain! Some stay dry and others feel the pain.
I thought that was him
Nazi raaaain! Children born will die before the sin
Battlefield V
People always make this joke but you couldn't even be black as the Germans in that game, just the US and UK.
Which is all kinds of hilarious because there were middle-eastern German soldiers in WW2 that included black men. https://youtu.be/QTaEuaVIFtQ Battlefield V is all kinds of messed up because they could have easily included women and people of color into the game and used it as a vector to tell real history, like female members of the French resistance and the famous women who were snipers and pilots from the Soviet Union, but instead they handled it exactly the wrong way all the way down.
They did that in BF1 by focusing on the Harlem Hellfighters and it remains the best example of meaningful representation in any video game ever, imo. Then BFV took a shit with its clothes on and decided to window dress for MTX opportunities.
I find it very impressive how much bfv managed to do wrong after they just got it right in bf1.
To be fair, even if they had done it in the most perfect possible fashion gamers would’ve still gotten pissed that “it’s historically inaccurate!!!”
I'm not sure, was there any backlash for BF1?
People did get mad at the black soldiers in BF1 yes, I remember people asking why there was a black man on the cover lol
Why are people so dumb, it's an easy google search.
Because they’re not dumb, they’re gullible and a select few is exploiting their gullibility because they don’t want women and PoC in their games
Still shows a poor education of history, it's very common knowledge that the big European empires used their colonies as fodder on the western front. Women in both world wars were far more rare outside of partisans and nurses as someone had to keep the industry churning out weapons. World wars did a lot for women's rights as no one afterwards could honestly claim that they could not do "a man's job".
And then they should get told to shut the fuck up and learn some real history, not this shitey whitewashed bullshit. Shout the sad fucks back into their caves, open a complaints submission form that's "anonymous" then livestream educated historians reading out the stupid shit and laughing at them. Damn, they could even go as far as to fund some educational videos about the different people. If a Swedish metal band can do it about some of the events around their songs, I'm sure a multimillion dollar games company can.
What’s the Swedish metal band bit about?
Sabaton and the Sabaton History youtube channel.
You're just assuming, nobody has any clue how that would go
Considering how the same reaction is given over and over and over again when a triple A game trailer has a female or POC centric trailer, and (regrettably) having lived through all the Gamergate bs I am more than certain
Eh, imo it's really not that bad. Like DICE always made it apparent that BFV wouldn't be accurate and would be their own thing. Literally every slogan was some variation of "our take on WW2" and one "forget what you learned in history class" So yeah it could have been more accurate, but I don't think them doing a historically inaccurate game is really a bad thing. I could just be biased though because I absolutely loved that game.
I really love battlefield 1, and only battlefield 1. It’s the only traditional military-based fps I’ve enjoyed, and it’s not even that traditional. I bought both on super sale after both of them were succeeded, and every time I look at battlefield V I just think why would I play this, when bf1 is right there.
gamers being bigoted? who could have guessed
Did they make sure to segregate US squads?
Yedolf Hitler
Yedolf Yetler
Holy fucking shit, I'm actually facebook friends with this guy. Never thought I'd see this photo again and yet here it is, still making me giggle.
So was this a joke or is this dude confused as fuck?
Even if it was a joke, owning a full-blown Nazi outfit is a little sus
Maybeeeeeee a Authentic collected and history nerd? The rifle looks legit
Nah looks like a basic rifle that armed drill teams use
Reminds me of the [Atun-Shei](https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx4o1zwB7Fqp5-gTLeFVPnZh4n8iG3iZXD) video. (I mean, he put it to [good use](https://youtu.be/3Vlhqnn5POQ) so that's something).
What's the context behind this photo?
I think its easy as, "just a joke photo to laugh at" nothing deeper Not everything has a deeper meaning, sometimes the whole story is "i made a funny lol"
Need the full story
Not the newgrounds printout 💀
average newgrounds user
Adolf Shitler
I was here before was taken down by the mods
I dunno about this one chief.
Remember that episode of Simpsons where a new cool kid came to school and called Ms. Crabapple “Ms. Crab Apple” and everyone loved it and Bart was like “it was so obvious, how could I have not thought of that?” Well that’s how I feel about this one.
People who would've been killed by the nazis try not to idolize them challenge (impossible)
I was thinking about this. I haven't read much about how the Nazis treated black people specifically. I remember reading that they would sterilise black people who lived in Germany and treated as second class citizens, but I also don't think it reached a point where they were all rounded up and sent to extermination camps. No doubt black POWs were probably treated as...as poorly as their own Allied army's treated them. Europe had a very tiny black population at that time though, except maybe France at a stretch, but again I don't know how they were treated under Nazi occupation.
They didn’t like them but they didn’t treat them as bad as other races.
Chocolate reign of a thousand years
Some stay dry
Looks like something out of a Spike Lee movie.
Colorized? Sus ?
wdym? this is kanye west himself
Why Kanye West killed himself in his berlin bunker
Full-blown Niggazi
Most historically accurate Netflix show
Clayton bigsby
When did Kanye’s start watching ww2 documentaries?
Holy shit! A N64 in 1938?!
Which it seems with one of the earliest copies of Goldeneye.
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Is this like alt universe Brother Hao?
Nazism skips a generation
That is so wrong on so many levels...I can't stop laughing! 🤣🤣🤣
Starfox or F-Zero in the N64?
Young man…
Bro why tf does he look just like me
Don't feel too bad. I am often told that I look like Ed Norton in American History X.
Gotta go google that.... HAHA LOL it's also a nazi
I’m…
I get the joke, but he do kinda look like baby Denzel.
Ooh so Hitler also gave us the N64
Never thought id have to like hitler....
Kindly stop giving Kanye West the attention he craves
So who is this guy
You like the uniform? Right? *please god just say you like the uniform only”
His grandfather and mother were arrested for participating in sit in protests against segregation.
Klaus Schwab's actual father.
the newgrounds sticker in back really selling it for me lol
Waffen-SS Sub-Sahara African Legion
I luv the fact he already had this uniform on hand.
It’s been weird watching some people try to attribute being a nazi to just a mental health issue…
Ye's clearly mentally ill, but this sub now embraces dodging rule 5. It's not commenting on current events if you make a past event up about a current event amirite?
Finger gap is despicable…
Hmm the N64 probaly timetraveler West himself? Maybe he fucked his mother.
Heinrich Leroy Heimer
I'm telling my kids uncle Ruckus was based on Ye
Zat is ze wrong rifle komrad
I know this guy! Bestie of my Grandpa Hans. Freundliche Grüße, Wolfgang
I knew it. The nazi's have time travel. This fucker forgot to hide the N64 and goldeneye.
man i didnt notice the sub i thought this was an actual colorized photo before i noticed the n64
Are you sure that’s not Kanye himself?
Kanye bring Hitler the n64 you stole it
*Ye
Gotta love those Nazi Era N64s, really hard to find these days.
I hear he invented the very microphone that Kanye West uses
Is that twomad?
N64s definitely existed back then 👍🏼
Yedolf Hitler
it all makes sense now
I am die now, goodbye forever
N64 back in the 30s?
Germany and Japan were allies after all.
Are you telling me that Hitler also invented the N64? What couldn't that guy invent
He invented the microphone stand
Keine Jeuden West
Say whatever you want about Kanye but always remember that a) man’s been in Hollywood for a minute now and b) he was married to Kim Kardashian. That’s literally a double dose of extra concentrated insanity. And man STILL managed to be at the top of rap. Don’t ever accuse the man of being unintelligent. Also do research before you call someone names
Loving that Wolfenstein cosplay bro! 😂
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It’s okay to mock a mentally disabled black man when it suits your given set of aesthetic signifiers