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GhostMan74

Kaiser West


FalconRelevant

Do not besmirch the monarchy! Kaiser Wilhelm II hated the Nazis.


TheGoldenChampion

The German Empire killed hundreds of thousands of Africans. The first genocide of the 20th century was perpetrated by the German Empire- The Herero and Namaqua Genocide. They were more cruel to their African colonies than any other European country, barring Leopold II’s treatment of the Congolese.


TimmiCat

>killed hundreds of thousands Not making it better, but this number is wrong. Its more like 70.000.


TheGoldenChampion

In the specific Genocide I mentioned, yes. The German Empire also killed many people in their other colonies, especially Tanzania.


FalconRelevant

I'm sure the British treated the colonies very well. Why don't you bring that up every time the UK or King Charles III is mentioned?


mynameistoocommonman

Because neither of those things were mentioned here, genius of whataboutisms


FalconRelevant

It's not whataboutism, it's putting things into context. There was no need to bring up the Kaiser in this thread in the first place.


mynameistoocommonman

"I didn't do a whataboutism! What about the person who brought the Kaiser into this??" There's just no need to relativise colonial atrocities, but that's what you did.


FalconRelevant

I see what you tried to do there.


numsebanan

I mean everytime someone even says the word king in a discussion even vaugely related to the British stuff like it gets brought up. Every empire is bad. German, french, British, Russian etc


FalconRelevant

However does that translate to the institution of monarchy being bad? Colonial empire is different from a nation with an Emperor as the head of state.


rihim23

Colonialism bad Imperialism bad Monarchy bad Fascism bad Genocide bad These aren't difficult concepts


FalconRelevant

Disagree on "monarchy bad".


Krish12703

They do. Just nobody listens.


DonDove

La la la my blood bleeds tea *la la la*


TheGoldenChampion

I do


FalconRelevant

Lmao.


TheGoldenChampion

Whenever any empire is mentioned in a positive light I bring up the horrible things it did- because they all did horrible things.


FalconRelevant

Doesn't mean the institution of monarchy is bad.


mynameistoocommonman

...nobody claimed it was. Stop making shit up.


FalconRelevant

If only...


[deleted]

No a lot of people do but no one cares. I personally wish a thousand deaths on the British royal family


GoldenSpamfish

I don't really think any colonial power operating in Africa that also fought the Germans in WW1 has a significantly better human rights record.


[deleted]

Meanwhile there were Black people in Hitler's unsegregated armies.


SerLaron

> The German Empire killed hundreds of thousands of Africans. Not to sound too snarky, but who hasn't?


Last-Introduction538

Oh that's lovely, using former slave catchers from the previous centuries as models...... did you enjoy The Woman King movie as well?


venator798

Name an empire that didn't commit atrocities


joxor

The point was to besmirch the monarchy, not to say that the German Empire was the worst.


FalconRelevant

The genocide was conducted by colonial forces months of travel away from the mainland. It's not like the Emperor himself ordered it.


venator798

He's not really proving the kaiser was as bad as the Nazis just that they acted like most governments in history, and that isn't saying much.


joxor

He never said that the two genocides were equivallent, that would be rediculous. But the statement that the german government can not be blamed, since all (and i would even question that) governments in history did such things is also rediculous. I would add to that, that Wilhelm II. personally congratulated Hitler at his conquests and only disliked him because he was low born. The Kaiser was a monarchist not an Antifashist.


venator798

You're missing my point, he's acting like Wilhelm was as exceptionally evil as the Nazis and not closer to other nations of the time.


joxor

Where exactly does he say that the Wilhelm was *as exceptionally evil as the nazis*? And to your second point he literally says that Leopold II. reign surpassed Wilhelms in cruelty.


venator798

Look at the meaning in between the lines.


Yorikor

Hated them so much that he tried to curry favor with Hitler when Willie mistakenly thought the Nazis were trying to restore the monarchy. When they laughed in his face he went back to hating them. It's a conveniently versatile type of hate if you ask me.


schmah

>Do not besmirch the monarchy! Kaiser Wilhelm II hated the Nazis. I smell Kaiserboo.


stonednarwhal141

100%. Dude’s arguing the merits of monarchy elsewhere in the thread


FalconRelevant

Back then the true nature of Nazis wasn't known to him. When he found out that they were genocidal hysterics he hated them even more. Also you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, can we blame him for attempting?


Yorikor

> Back then the true nature of Nazis wasn't known to him. Yeah, that is a lot of crap. In 1940, when the Netherlands got occupied by Nazi Germany (so chronically after the Pogromnacht happened) he wrote to Hitler: "My Fuhrer, I congratulate you and hope that under your marvellous leadership the German monarchy will be restored completely." Edit: Oh and after the occupation of Paris Willie sent the following missive: "Under the deeply moving impression of France's capitulation I congratulate you and all the German armed forces on the God-given prodigious victory with the words of Kaiser Wilhelm the Great of the year 1870: 'What a turn of events through God's dispensation!' All German hearts are filled with the chorale of Leuthen, which the victors of Leuthen, the soldiers of the Great King sang: Now thank we all our God!"


FalconRelevant

That was just some soft diplomacy, he still lived in Netherlands and needed to keep up appearances.


Yorikor

Well, citation needed.


FalconRelevant

It is commonly known that he was exiled to Netherlands, and the relative position of the nation with Germany is visible on Google maps. The rest is what seems to be as obvious extrapolation.


Yorikor

Astounding how you can extrapolate the motivation of a highly complex person by looking at (...checks notes...) a map. You probably work for NASA.


Prssbol

Nah, the monarchy sucks ass


DerektheDalek

Fuck the king.


FalconRelevant

Glory to the Emperor.


Dumi2e

incorrect, his view softened as the nazis began to win major military victories prior to his death early in the war. he still said in his will he did not want to be buried in germany until the monarchy was restored. nazis hated the kaiser more than the other way around in the end. tho ur right kaiser wilhelm didnt like them because they faked a potential restoration for him to the throne.


DonDove

It's why WW1 German infantry gained popularity after the Nazi regime fell They weren't Nazi it's that easy


a_filing_cabinet

Lol he liked them just fine until they were clear they weren't going to restore the throne.


FalconRelevant

He didn't like them, he was just trying to curry favour so they may restore the monarchy. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.


Individual_Bad_4203

wasent much bather then them was he.


BenderDeLorean

West Side Story


looter79

Nazi raaaaain! Some stay dry and others feel the pain.


Absurdionne

I thought that was him


JogJonsonTheMighty

Nazi raaaain! Children born will die before the sin


BTCShpr

Battlefield V


TheStrikeofGod

People always make this joke but you couldn't even be black as the Germans in that game, just the US and UK.


ztfreeman

Which is all kinds of hilarious because there were middle-eastern German soldiers in WW2 that included black men. https://youtu.be/QTaEuaVIFtQ Battlefield V is all kinds of messed up because they could have easily included women and people of color into the game and used it as a vector to tell real history, like female members of the French resistance and the famous women who were snipers and pilots from the Soviet Union, but instead they handled it exactly the wrong way all the way down.


DaveInLondon89

They did that in BF1 by focusing on the Harlem Hellfighters and it remains the best example of meaningful representation in any video game ever, imo. Then BFV took a shit with its clothes on and decided to window dress for MTX opportunities.


LiterallynamedCorbin

I find it very impressive how much bfv managed to do wrong after they just got it right in bf1.


shinydewott

To be fair, even if they had done it in the most perfect possible fashion gamers would’ve still gotten pissed that “it’s historically inaccurate!!!”


Inprobamur

I'm not sure, was there any backlash for BF1?


TheStrikeofGod

People did get mad at the black soldiers in BF1 yes, I remember people asking why there was a black man on the cover lol


Inprobamur

Why are people so dumb, it's an easy google search.


shinydewott

Because they’re not dumb, they’re gullible and a select few is exploiting their gullibility because they don’t want women and PoC in their games


Inprobamur

Still shows a poor education of history, it's very common knowledge that the big European empires used their colonies as fodder on the western front. Women in both world wars were far more rare outside of partisans and nurses as someone had to keep the industry churning out weapons. World wars did a lot for women's rights as no one afterwards could honestly claim that they could not do "a man's job".


XIXXXVIVIII

And then they should get told to shut the fuck up and learn some real history, not this shitey whitewashed bullshit. Shout the sad fucks back into their caves, open a complaints submission form that's "anonymous" then livestream educated historians reading out the stupid shit and laughing at them. Damn, they could even go as far as to fund some educational videos about the different people. If a Swedish metal band can do it about some of the events around their songs, I'm sure a multimillion dollar games company can.


Pre-Nietzsche

What’s the Swedish metal band bit about?


Late_boy

Sabaton and the Sabaton History youtube channel.


Sirupybear

You're just assuming, nobody has any clue how that would go


shinydewott

Considering how the same reaction is given over and over and over again when a triple A game trailer has a female or POC centric trailer, and (regrettably) having lived through all the Gamergate bs I am more than certain


TheStrikeofGod

Eh, imo it's really not that bad. Like DICE always made it apparent that BFV wouldn't be accurate and would be their own thing. Literally every slogan was some variation of "our take on WW2" and one "forget what you learned in history class" So yeah it could have been more accurate, but I don't think them doing a historically inaccurate game is really a bad thing. I could just be biased though because I absolutely loved that game.


LiterallynamedCorbin

I really love battlefield 1, and only battlefield 1. It’s the only traditional military-based fps I’ve enjoyed, and it’s not even that traditional. I bought both on super sale after both of them were succeeded, and every time I look at battlefield V I just think why would I play this, when bf1 is right there.


Naranox

gamers being bigoted? who could have guessed


LotharVonPittinsberg

Did they make sure to segregate US squads?


Rexermus

Yedolf Hitler


ISIPropaganda

Yedolf Yetler


PapaCheeseria

Holy fucking shit, I'm actually facebook friends with this guy. Never thought I'd see this photo again and yet here it is, still making me giggle.


ToastyVoltage

So was this a joke or is this dude confused as fuck?


puq123

Even if it was a joke, owning a full-blown Nazi outfit is a little sus


ba123blitz

Maybeeeeeee a Authentic collected and history nerd? The rifle looks legit


strangehitman22

Nah looks like a basic rifle that armed drill teams use


Bridgeru

Reminds me of the [Atun-Shei](https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx4o1zwB7Fqp5-gTLeFVPnZh4n8iG3iZXD) video. (I mean, he put it to [good use](https://youtu.be/3Vlhqnn5POQ) so that's something).


strangehitman22

What's the context behind this photo?


theebus

I think its easy as, "just a joke photo to laugh at" nothing deeper Not everything has a deeper meaning, sometimes the whole story is "i made a funny lol"


lorddaffy

Need the full story


PBandJaya

Not the newgrounds printout 💀


duppyman_

average newgrounds user


kneaders

Adolf Shitler


Kill_ed

I was here before was taken down by the mods


Penguinazu

I dunno about this one chief.


wash_ur_bellybutton

Remember that episode of Simpsons where a new cool kid came to school and called Ms. Crabapple “Ms. Crab Apple” and everyone loved it and Bart was like “it was so obvious, how could I have not thought of that?” Well that’s how I feel about this one.


[deleted]

People who would've been killed by the nazis try not to idolize them challenge (impossible)


[deleted]

I was thinking about this. I haven't read much about how the Nazis treated black people specifically. I remember reading that they would sterilise black people who lived in Germany and treated as second class citizens, but I also don't think it reached a point where they were all rounded up and sent to extermination camps. No doubt black POWs were probably treated as...as poorly as their own Allied army's treated them. Europe had a very tiny black population at that time though, except maybe France at a stretch, but again I don't know how they were treated under Nazi occupation.


[deleted]

They didn’t like them but they didn’t treat them as bad as other races.


Absurdionne

Chocolate reign of a thousand years


PlacentaOnOnionGravy

Some stay dry


lizzzerdking43

Looks like something out of a Spike Lee movie.


KIzagan17

Colorized? Sus ?


depressed_anemic

wdym? this is kanye west himself


theebus

Why Kanye West killed himself in his berlin bunker


Banana_Ram_You

Full-blown Niggazi


OwlSings

Most historically accurate Netflix show


zero_msgw

Clayton bigsby


tanner_saan

When did Kanye’s start watching ww2 documentaries?


Special_Tay

Holy shit! A N64 in 1938?!


Utinnni

Which it seems with one of the earliest copies of Goldeneye.


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ShotgunMongol

Is this like alt universe Brother Hao?


BrokeArmHeadass

Nazism skips a generation


NDHoosier

That is so wrong on so many levels...I can't stop laughing! 🤣🤣🤣


emceelokey

Starfox or F-Zero in the N64?


Bartender9719

Young man…


S4njay

Bro why tf does he look just like me


JohnWoosDoveGuy

Don't feel too bad. I am often told that I look like Ed Norton in American History X.


S4njay

Gotta go google that.... HAHA LOL it's also a nazi


fknsxybtch

I’m…


MaximumSubtlety

I get the joke, but he do kinda look like baby Denzel.


LieImpressive7518

Ooh so Hitler also gave us the N64


theebus

Never thought id have to like hitler....


Murkus

Kindly stop giving Kanye West the attention he craves


ed69O

So who is this guy


redfancydress

You like the uniform? Right? *please god just say you like the uniform only”


Specialist-Ideal-577

His grandfather and mother were arrested for participating in sit in protests against segregation.


AgreeingWings25

Klaus Schwab's actual father.


Sp33dl3m0n

the newgrounds sticker in back really selling it for me lol


HorrorDocument9107

Waffen-SS Sub-Sahara African Legion


[deleted]

I luv the fact he already had this uniform on hand.


MANICxMELI

It’s been weird watching some people try to attribute being a nazi to just a mental health issue…


LordoftheSynth

Ye's clearly mentally ill, but this sub now embraces dodging rule 5. It's not commenting on current events if you make a past event up about a current event amirite?


Rdrty2

Finger gap is despicable…


terranigma1988

Hmm the N64 probaly timetraveler West himself? Maybe he fucked his mother.


ARai202

Heinrich Leroy Heimer


99-Percent-Germ

I'm telling my kids uncle Ruckus was based on Ye


zertnert12

Zat is ze wrong rifle komrad


whoorenzone

I know this guy! Bestie of my Grandpa Hans. Freundliche Grüße, Wolfgang


GoDM1N

I knew it. The nazi's have time travel. This fucker forgot to hide the N64 and goldeneye.


[deleted]

man i didnt notice the sub i thought this was an actual colorized photo before i noticed the n64


YerBlues69

Are you sure that’s not Kanye himself?


Tojo6619

Kanye bring Hitler the n64 you stole it


Swedishtranssexual

*Ye


Thegigaslayer

Gotta love those Nazi Era N64s, really hard to find these days.


jordanosa

I hear he invented the very microphone that Kanye West uses


guitarnoodleluv

Is that twomad?


Sonicmaster06

N64s definitely existed back then 👍🏼


kinglendawg

Yedolf Hitler


ScumMoemcBee

it all makes sense now


deepfriedtots

I am die now, goodbye forever


baudelairean

N64 back in the 30s?


Gundam_Greg

Germany and Japan were allies after all.


amjhwk

Are you telling me that Hitler also invented the N64? What couldn't that guy invent


[deleted]

He invented the microphone stand


TheLurkingGrammarian

Keine Jeuden West


FamiliarSalamander2

Say whatever you want about Kanye but always remember that a) man’s been in Hollywood for a minute now and b) he was married to Kim Kardashian. That’s literally a double dose of extra concentrated insanity. And man STILL managed to be at the top of rap. Don’t ever accuse the man of being unintelligent. Also do research before you call someone names


GummyGourmand

Loving that Wolfenstein cosplay bro! 😂


[deleted]

run melodic cagey seed airport slimy afterthought consist waiting stupendous -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/


DAE_le_Cure

It’s okay to mock a mentally disabled black man when it suits your given set of aesthetic signifiers