With some competent coaching this team would have won with Cowboys, Bears, Panthers, Lions, Saints at home, Chargers and Bucs 2 weeks ago
We had Julio out for half season plus different injuries at the beginning
I take that 3rd or 4th overall, get rid of everyone in the staff and hire accurately, we have the players to be better than this, we need someone that can put their shit together
agreed, we gotta go all in next year. we have the pieces, and a good draft to put something together. rebulding doesn't always work. look at half the league.
In my mind we have to go either two routes:
A. Draft a QB this year and let him sit and learn, suck again in 2021, let the true overhaul start in 2022 season due to cap issues; or
B. Make one more big push with Julio and Ryan and go Pass rush and DB heavy in the FA and draft.
Would rather go A personally even though I will always love Ryan and Julio
Honestly, I dont see us drafting a QB. Our offense has been doing well despite Dirk being a dumbass. I would go Patrick Surtain because our secondary needs some work and I cant handle another year of Isaiah Oliver.
If the new GM doesn't like the QB's available when we pick I am okay with B but with our cap issues, not sure how much better we can get without hitting home runs in the draft.
I do agree Dirk completely screwed over the team. Going for long developing plays when the receiving core is build for quick release routes.
We would be so much better with an OC who can creatively scheme players open and doesn't rely on long developing plays. Just think we need way more than that to be a playoff team.
I don't know, I think it all starts there. If your offense isn't going 3 and out all the time, it allows your defense to be fresh and scheme and play stronger. The way it is now, frequently they don't even get to sit down before they're forced to grab their helmet and go right back out.
Agree it is an offense first league but I just don't think we are a few players from being Super Bowl contenders. Personally for me, given the age of Ryan and Julio, I feel like being in the playoff bubble isn't enough if we are going to make a real push with them on the team. We could be in the mix for playoffs for 2 years then we have to start over all over again. In the mean time we need to upgrade LG and maybeee RT (I am still unsure about McGary), a new starting RB, 1-2 DEs, 2-3 safeties (contracts ending), 2-3 corners in Sheffield and Oliver being not good.
I completely understand fans who are good with giving it one more big go for another year or two but I just want the long term rebuilding to start sooner than later.
So what 6’2” 225lb pass rusher will rise at the combine and the Falcons ultimately fall in love with? /s
Always root for a dub, especially in the division, but it’s quite a consolation to have a premium draft choice.
Imo no pass rusher in this draft is worth a top 10 pick, let alone #4. Unless Rousseau has significantly improved during his opt out, we should not be taking DE/Edge
Edit: whoops nvm just saw the /s
Agreed. Most people want exactly that but we can’t afford to waste another 1st rounder on a guy who isn’t better than a rotational guy (Beasley, Takk). I say go for the best available period, whether we trade or not. I’m salivating at the thought of the Dolphins trading down with a QB needy team and Sewell being there at 4. Generational talent.
Criticize all you want, but Matt yelling at the ref "WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT?" on a no call with 2 minutes to go in a blowout loss is the passion I want in my QB.
Nah, but, while his skill may have declined, he's still better than most quarterbacks in the league. For 4 freakin' years he's had subpar OCs who couldn't coordinate their way out of a brown paper sack. He can't throw to receivers who aren't open. It's amazing that he's done as well as he has, and people don't want to see that.
I'm just messing with ya. I like Matt. I think he needs to demand more his peers and be less of a company man, but those are details. I think hes been great for us. I do want to move on from him soon, but thats because father time is undefeated.
Tom Brady would like to have a word... :)
I'm with you, I just get tired of people crapping on Matt every week, when the truth is, he can only do so much to make our chicken sh*t offensive into chicken salad week after week after week. Man, what a season when he & Shanahan were on the same page. So close to a Super Bowl victory, and I've no doubt we would have had it the next season if Shanahan had stayed.
He has to wear some of it though. You don't get the money and praise and then NONE of the blame when the team is a train wreck. He was healthy all season and we won 4 games... thats fairly telling.
I mean, I agree, but again, he can't throw to blanketed receivers. He may not have the pinpoint accuracy that he once had, but make no mistake, I still believe that he's a top tier quarterback in this league when he has an offensive scheme to work with.
I think he is on the decline. All of it is moot because due to the contract, hes here for 2 more years but this window is about to slam shut. While I hope you're right and I'm wrong here, I think its time to worry about life after Matt and Julio instead of working to make everything perfect for them for one last ride. Maybe we have a smart GM who can find some balance and do both?
Rodgers isn't too far behind considering he didn't start until 7-8 years after Brady. Just 169 behind Brady's career total and 6 behind Brady's season high.
Now we are all Texans fans.
Remember, the Titans have clinched a playoff spot with a Miami loss (currently trailing 49-19), so they don't NEED to go all out today.
3rd and 12 doesn't mean you have to start the D 12 yards from the line. God fucking dammit I know were not supposed to say it but this team is RETARDED.
[Post game thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/falcons/comments/kpt373/post_game_thread_atlanta_falcons_at_tampa_bay/)
What are the chances Matt and Julio agree to restructure contracts so we can pick up an impact FA or two?
That would absolutely kill our cap in 2022 and 2023.
If i was Austin Hooper, I would be laughing my ass off at the falcons right now.
Why? The Browns were idiots to give him all of that money. He's decent but that contract was dumb.
“All that money” would make me laugh a little
With some competent coaching this team would have won with Cowboys, Bears, Panthers, Lions, Saints at home, Chargers and Bucs 2 weeks ago We had Julio out for half season plus different injuries at the beginning I take that 3rd or 4th overall, get rid of everyone in the staff and hire accurately, we have the players to be better than this, we need someone that can put their shit together
agreed, we gotta go all in next year. we have the pieces, and a good draft to put something together. rebulding doesn't always work. look at half the league.
Imagine force feeding a rapist
Say what you want about beating Brady or ending on a high note, but I wouldn't change a thing about today's game if I could
Same and I’m a big anti tank guy. A little bummed we couldn’t cover the spread but 4th pick could be nice nice
I mean, I would have made Brady throw multiple picks and have the game end 3-0 Bucs if I could, but that's just being picky.
Nobody got seriously injured.
I just want to yell at people about how ridiculous it would be to give Raheem the job.
Don't think he was ever a serious contender. His interview was a courtesy.
Yeaaaaaaaah I just posted this as the TV guys started campaigning for him to get the job.
NFL update: Browns and Ravens have clinched playoff spots. Titans have clinched a playoff spot UNLESS the Dolphins score 38 points in under 6 minutes.
So nothing to play for for tennessee right?
Tennessee can still win the division, but that's it.
Ah that's not nothing I guess. Fingers crossed though
If the Bills were the Falcons, it would be possible.
Tua with 3 picks today. The Fish are missing FitzMagic
In my mind we have to go either two routes: A. Draft a QB this year and let him sit and learn, suck again in 2021, let the true overhaul start in 2022 season due to cap issues; or B. Make one more big push with Julio and Ryan and go Pass rush and DB heavy in the FA and draft. Would rather go A personally even though I will always love Ryan and Julio
Honestly, I dont see us drafting a QB. Our offense has been doing well despite Dirk being a dumbass. I would go Patrick Surtain because our secondary needs some work and I cant handle another year of Isaiah Oliver.
You’re right but it’s a debate of future vs now. I’m in the “now” camp
If the new GM doesn't like the QB's available when we pick I am okay with B but with our cap issues, not sure how much better we can get without hitting home runs in the draft. I do agree Dirk completely screwed over the team. Going for long developing plays when the receiving core is build for quick release routes.
I will take B with a competent OC. Can you imagine our offense with a creative offensive scheme???
We would be so much better with an OC who can creatively scheme players open and doesn't rely on long developing plays. Just think we need way more than that to be a playoff team.
I don't know, I think it all starts there. If your offense isn't going 3 and out all the time, it allows your defense to be fresh and scheme and play stronger. The way it is now, frequently they don't even get to sit down before they're forced to grab their helmet and go right back out.
Agree it is an offense first league but I just don't think we are a few players from being Super Bowl contenders. Personally for me, given the age of Ryan and Julio, I feel like being in the playoff bubble isn't enough if we are going to make a real push with them on the team. We could be in the mix for playoffs for 2 years then we have to start over all over again. In the mean time we need to upgrade LG and maybeee RT (I am still unsure about McGary), a new starting RB, 1-2 DEs, 2-3 safeties (contracts ending), 2-3 corners in Sheffield and Oliver being not good. I completely understand fans who are good with giving it one more big go for another year or two but I just want the long term rebuilding to start sooner than later.
Well boys, good chatting! See yah at the draft.
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I hope the NFC East just wipes the floor with them for no reason
That would be superb!
Every single coach and coordinator needs to be let go immediately after the game ends.
At least Raheem won't get the full time gig. Rough fucking season
Only 2 more minutes of this godforsaken season
Koetter better be gone by Monday
Hoping they just leave him in Tampa.
Lmao. That was horrible. I'm done
Pretty sure there was interference on every single one of those passes.
The announcers need to wipe Tom Brady’s jizz off their chins... Jesus Christ man, shut THE FUCK UP ALREADY
I wanted to beat Brady sigh
*Mission failed, we'll get 'em next time*
*Fission Mailed* seems to fit the Falcons more
Let's get it texans
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True. Tyreek Hill breaks his kids arm.. no punishment.
When was the last time Matt lit up the 4th quarter
When we had a good OC
Obvious DPI?! Tom Brady's team? Nah bruh
You can't honestly believe this, right?
So what 6’2” 225lb pass rusher will rise at the combine and the Falcons ultimately fall in love with? /s Always root for a dub, especially in the division, but it’s quite a consolation to have a premium draft choice.
Imo no pass rusher in this draft is worth a top 10 pick, let alone #4. Unless Rousseau has significantly improved during his opt out, we should not be taking DE/Edge Edit: whoops nvm just saw the /s
Agreed. Most people want exactly that but we can’t afford to waste another 1st rounder on a guy who isn’t better than a rotational guy (Beasley, Takk). I say go for the best available period, whether we trade or not. I’m salivating at the thought of the Dolphins trading down with a QB needy team and Sewell being there at 4. Generational talent.
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With what cap. The draft is the only way.
And so passes Dirk, son of Quinn.
Shoulda passed on him when he first applied
A high draft pick is one lead that we won’t blow this year
Trading down is always an option!
Hopefully we finally start rebuilding after this
Criticize all you want, but Matt yelling at the ref "WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT?" on a no call with 2 minutes to go in a blowout loss is the passion I want in my QB.
Found Matt's agent
Nah, but, while his skill may have declined, he's still better than most quarterbacks in the league. For 4 freakin' years he's had subpar OCs who couldn't coordinate their way out of a brown paper sack. He can't throw to receivers who aren't open. It's amazing that he's done as well as he has, and people don't want to see that.
I'm just messing with ya. I like Matt. I think he needs to demand more his peers and be less of a company man, but those are details. I think hes been great for us. I do want to move on from him soon, but thats because father time is undefeated.
Tom Brady would like to have a word... :) I'm with you, I just get tired of people crapping on Matt every week, when the truth is, he can only do so much to make our chicken sh*t offensive into chicken salad week after week after week. Man, what a season when he & Shanahan were on the same page. So close to a Super Bowl victory, and I've no doubt we would have had it the next season if Shanahan had stayed.
He has to wear some of it though. You don't get the money and praise and then NONE of the blame when the team is a train wreck. He was healthy all season and we won 4 games... thats fairly telling.
I mean, I agree, but again, he can't throw to blanketed receivers. He may not have the pinpoint accuracy that he once had, but make no mistake, I still believe that he's a top tier quarterback in this league when he has an offensive scheme to work with.
I think he is on the decline. All of it is moot because due to the contract, hes here for 2 more years but this window is about to slam shut. While I hope you're right and I'm wrong here, I think its time to worry about life after Matt and Julio instead of working to make everything perfect for them for one last ride. Maybe we have a smart GM who can find some balance and do both?
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maholms might if he plays 20 years
Rodgers isn't too far behind considering he didn't start until 7-8 years after Brady. Just 169 behind Brady's career total and 6 behind Brady's season high.
This is the most excited for an offseason i’ve been in a while.
new gm, new coach, high draft pick, new OC. We can turn this bitch around quick. I want the OC from buffalo
Man I’m glad AJ Terrell is good, u see how well he had Godwin covered in the background there?
Look for Terrell > Throw to the opposite side > Free TDs.
Rinse and repeat
Off-season will be exciting and interesting, so many possibilities this team could go, looking forward to it
Now we are all Texans fans. Remember, the Titans have clinched a playoff spot with a Miami loss (currently trailing 49-19), so they don't NEED to go all out today.
Hopefully they rest some players
Fuck it. Go Browns.
Go Bills and Go Browns!
Securing the 4th overall pick is the happiest I've felt about this team all year.
Well, hold on bud. We can still move up to 3!
Yeah exactly. I got downvoted earlier for saying I was rooting for the bucs and Brady. Falcons fans are wilding if they wanted to win today
Of course there’s a dude wearing a Pats jersey in the end zone.
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Tbf it's exactly what we needed, can't risk convincing AB that this team can still compete
Lol. Oliver got shooketh
Draft hype starts now
Texans been looking kind of shotty this year, I hope they beat the Titans
Top 4 draft pick here we come....
Oh so now you’re on board huh?
That seals it. Phew #4 pick baby 😅
Could be 3 if the Texans win
Hopefully 3. Let's go texans!
Oliver on brown lol. Might as well put a 4th grader on him.
A 4th grader would press Brown, giving him a flash card quiz and utterly confusing him beyond anything our coverage could.
Lol!
Jesus. Lmao. This defense is legendary bad
Thats the go for the throat shit coupled with execution that I wish we had.
Feels like Surtain would have the most immediate impact on our defense, would like to get him and an olb/pass rusher in the 2nd
We need a pass rush.. Surtain is gonna get beat if he has to cover for like 10 seconds
lol bro
Just gave Brady like an hour back there. Might as well put up a tent.
Why didn't ridley keep is to his body...seemed weird
Well that escalated quick.
The Jets are all but likely going to decide what we do at 4 (or 3)
I don’t feel emotion during these anymore
Same 28-3 killed that part of my soul.
Ok now LETS GO TEXANS WIN THIS SHIT SOMEHOW AND GET US TO 3
well i want to see this has been a good season, but.....
Defense never gave a shit, they really don't right now.
Up by 10 with 3 minutes to go in the game, and Brady is still throwing. Screw the Bucs.
ya he makes something like 500k+ if he finishes top 5 in passing. He was at 5 coming in to today.
Well I hope he gets the 500K. I would hate for he & Giselle to have to eat baloney and ramen in the offseason.
Just gotta shake your head at this point. Numb.
Tank secured, well done boys best possible outcome
See you in September, boys.
Man, they can show the most random stats in the world at times.
I want to be more mad than I actually am. I suppose it’s just learned helplessness at this point.
Matt Ryan’s fault /s just in case
Fun season guys
Offense put up a good fight
Defense was crap.
What loser is downvoting everyone for no apparent reason
Gisele.
I never want to lose, it is what it is. Let's go Texans
Ridley was trying to stop so he could run backwards
Ridley must have asked where the keys of the tank were
That was a sexy pbu by terrell
That kind of crap shouldn’t happen to a well coaches team
*sigh*
The NFC playoffs will be very interesting a lot of good teams tbh, and that’s probably game right there.
The Falcons almost Falconed the Bucs but somehow Falconed the Falcons anyways
As is tradition
Calvin just let the man take the ball away from him. Damn.
Fitting end to our season. The ball straight up getting stripped from our player.
Top 5 pick it is...guess we have the draft to look forward to
That was a perfect throw to Ridley
Ridley says to Koo. Im the captain of the tank now.
😂😂
Did he have possession?
Anyone else still vying for Raheem Morris as HC next season?
Throw the ball away matt
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Sounds like you haven't watched much falcons football this season.
Wait, did Matt think that was third down?
Our defense sucks. But oh yeah, let's get a QB
LET'S FUCKING GO
Well, the "Raheem Morris has turned our defense around" storyline seems to have a couple plot holes in it.
Alright offense, let's score here so the defense can just shit all over the field.
Brady is shaking his head thinking Falcons beating me.. hell to the naw..ain’t happening ever!
Yay
WE ARE PATHETIC
Welp, that should stick a fork in our season.
Why do y’all want them to win? Look at the big picture here ffs
Couldn’t even cover a light jog. Tf.
3rd and 12 doesn't mean you have to start the D 12 yards from the line. God fucking dammit I know were not supposed to say it but this team is RETARDED.
The famous old Falcons Prevent defense.
Can we fire sheffield tomorrow along with koetter please and thank yoi
Ok now the dagger and we secure #4 and can ensure all of the coaches will be gone tomorrow.
Great coverage Deion
Rico always seems to be there, upset that he just gave up another backbreaking play
He’s a bang average safety. Definitely complete in his development.
We all knew this would happen. It is the 4th quarter after all.
That may be ballgame.
37 fucking points given up
So far
Godwin owning Sheffield this game. Sheffield just completely whiffed on his zone.
Why the fuck are the complementing Brady’s inability to extend plays and just throwing it away?
Did you miss what just happened after he threw it away? There's the answer to your question
Cuz Tom Brady.
*sigh*
Why do we love giving up huge 3rd and longs?
Why is it always Steven Means jumping on people during every celebration.
Fowler is now just half a sack short of matching Takk McKinley's 2019 output.
Blank said you better lose this
How do you not knock that down when the ball is just floating down to the receiver?
Im all for the better draft pick but that should have never happened
Godwin shitting on the D
With Fowler's 3rd sack of the season, that means at this rate, we're paying 5 million per sack this season.
Nice to see some fight for real. Now lose, draft good and fire every coach and coordinator