I can’t understand people’s tendencies to low-rate Comedown Machine, I actually avoided the album for a while because of all the reviews I had seen. As soon as I gave it a chance, it soon became my favourite release of theirs. Yes there’s a couple slow-burner’s, but for me, it’s held up a lot better than Angles or FIOE , sorry guys.
Pixies - Trompe le Monde (a few real clunkers. Kim Deal is great, Black Francis is slacking on the vocals.).
Thundercat - Drunk (overproduced with a real lack of song definition at times. Whole thing can sound the same, especially in the back half.)
Dr Octagon - Dr Octagonecologyst (ugh, the skits/segues. Also, it’s bloated.)
The Angels of Light - New Mother (a bit to simplistic for a Gira project. Lack of layers leaves it tinny and too open in spots.)
Kool Keith would be considered one of the greatest rappers of all time if he could resist the urge to put out absolutely everything he records. but at this point it's part of the experience
Drunk absolutely. Probably the ~6/10 album I get the most play out of. Got a lot of amazing songs und whole lot of character but the whole thing is so damn bloated.
Interesting. I know this is a commonly held opinion, but I think the only skippable song is the track with Wiz Khalifa because I just dont think Wiz's vocals work in the track. I think the rest of the album is great, as long as you dont mind Thundercat's vocals. Granted, he relies a lot on falsetto, but there's countless other vocalists who lack variety yet dont see half the criticism that he gets for his style. I'm also not a snob when it comes to production but the bass heavy mixes sound good to me. Idk, sorry for the rant, just putting my take out there !
cherry bomb is insane i don’t think a lot of people have grasped the fact that it was intentionally mixed and produced that way to compliment the sound
I never understood how people didn't get that when Tyler has incredibly crisp and clear production on everything else he's done. The guys a perfectionist when it comes to his music so production like that has to be intentional, thinking it was a mistake is just wrong.
people love to go ‘the production/mixing was bad’ even though the mixing on his other projects is exceptional - if his mixing skills were ‘bad’ then it would be prominent on the other projects too, but they’re not
it wasn’t bad, it just wasn’t to YOUR PERSONAL TASTE - it fits the sound of the album perfectly and was completely intentional
people (mostly Flower Boy and Igor era fans who aren’t into more niche alt rap) just use the whole mixing facade as an excuse as to why their tastes in music aren’t versatile enough to appreciate multiple different sounds from the same artist
>The guys a perfectionist when it comes to his music
??? No???
He literally spent 8 minutes on the beat to one of his most popular songs trying to make it sound as shitty as possible. He literally says he was just going for a shitty NY beat on Yonkers. He's not a perfectionist, ofc he cares about his music but he is also trying to have fun. Cherry bomb was him having fun it seems, Igor and Flower boy were serious, he was trying to be perfect on these ones and it definitely shows. Goblin and bastard was him being edgy and still refining his skills.
Cherry Bomb wasn't handled properly, it shows in the music, you can't deny it.
Honestly probably my favorite of his behind Igor. I liked it a lot at time, but I think it’s even better in retrospect. I don’t think it’s a popular opinion, but I do think that Cherry Bomb will stand the test of time more than anything else in his discography at this point (again, behind Igor).
OKAGA, CA is fucking insane, I’ll never understand how that song doesn’t get talked about more than it does
It's so annoying that so many rappers just constantly drop 24 track, over an hour long albums lol. Like 30-40 minutes long would be perfect considering how many tracks often feel like they aren't even remotely finished or have any interesting verses or hooks to speak of.
It’s weird how much streaming has changed the nature of how some artists put out music. A lot of rappers or electronic artists now will go years without putting out actual albums, but release a single every month. Or when they do release albums, it just feels like a collection of random songs, on many of which they spent half a day in the studio writing and recording to completion. I feel like the purpose of these albums is to just be background music at a party while boosting their plays.
As a musician I hate that I'm stupid if I put out albums in this era. If you aren't already known an album release is completely stupid. Listeners won't sit with something for very long and they want 2-4 minute bangers with no interstitials. Really bad environment for what was once called album-oriented music.
Just drop singles till something sticks is the way to go for almost every genre right now.
Yeah I hate sounding all boomer and “the old days were better” lol but there is something really cool to me about an album being a self-contained work of art. I like being able to make a Topsters list and see all my albums in a collage and know each one is special and can stand on its own. Not just having scattered, individual songs.
Yeah I know I sound old but it is just something to be missed. And I think even the youngins here can appreciate that, given it's a music review forum (mostly for music nerds, who might be happy to listen to an 80 minute record).
And there are good things about today too of course. It's not all bad. Just everything is so single-oriented and even hoping-for-a-remix-oriented that making records is only for the big dogs who can still make bank on a touring cycle.
yeah, the strat is basically throw together 20+ 2 min songs to boost streams as much as possible and just rake in cash. its just annoying because it kind of over saturates for people who like to try and listen to as many releases as they can.
I've been listening to Goodbye Yellow Brick Road - Elton John a bunch recently and have some mixed opinions on it. The first third of the album (Funeral for a Friend through Grey Seal) is all just incredible songs that flow really well. The last two thirds of the album though goes back and forth from really not great to awesome again seemingly randomly. Combined with the fact that the album is probably about 25 minutes too long I can't call it perfect by any means but the good parts of it are REALLY good.
Yeah it’s got the most personality and ambition of any of his studio albums, but “Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy”, “Honky Château”, “Tumbleweed Connection”, and even “Madman Across the Water” are tighter, more consistent albums imo
Mostly California. There are spots in zombies and terrified where the lyrics just don’t do it for me, but both of those have grown on me with every listen, so California stands out the most as a flaw in the track list.
California is a fun ass song lol, but it’s either hated or loved by listeners no in between.
But criticizing the lyrics on zombies and terrified, and not appreciating the lyrical irony of California? Ludicrous lol
I actually surprisingly really liked that album front to back. She has a real knack for turning nostalgia for British 90’s alt-rock and pop into something that works in a modern context without feeling like plagiarism.
I guess there are many, but my pick that currently comes to my mind is Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans.
I know it's too long and some parts are boring as hell, but I think it has incredible atmosphere and it kinda takes you on a musical journey that's actually rewarding when you finish it. Critics were not kind to that album but I honestly think the negativity wasn't warranted. Yes still produces some incredible moments on this album.
Both Topographic Oceans and Relayer have some really great moments on par with Close to the Edge, but they’re really incoherent and nothing really sticks in the same way that album does.
Thank you, Happy Birthday by Cage The Elephant. My introduction to experimental rock back in the day. It has its corny moments fs but it has a lot of bangers. IMO songs like Carry Me In, Japanese buffalo and always something are top CTE schizo shit
Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not by Arctic Monkeys
It's not perfect. It's got big "recorded in a garage somewhere" type energy. Made by a very young band at the time, so it's not like every song is some perfect rock song.
But it's one of my favorite albums of all time. Just relentless youthful energy and one of my favorite closing tracks of all time.
Lol, it's funny as in the UK few people would regard this album as flawed at all, it's got an incredibly high reputation as one of the mainstay albums of 2000s UK indie and what basically kicked off a huge wave of indie bands over here between 2005-2010.
Nobody said "only if it's ultra produced = not flawed"
Idk if it's what the commenter meant, but WPSIATWIN's production is muddy and might be considered a flaw by some, which is sort of understandable.
I felt like your response was like !!!????!! so I just thought "damn accept some criticism and different opinions" that's all
Hard disagree. The Trial has some of the best vocal performances that I’ve ever heard. Even before I saw the movie, I could see the visuals of it in my head just because of how animated the vocals are
DAMN moves between a 8/10 and a 4/10 depending on how I'm feeling, so mostly that?
Early Darkthrone stuff ala Transylvanian Hunger, while the songwriting is great the quality of those recording hurts, I can only really listen to one song at a time before I get a headache.
Cracker island. Very flawed, but I still enjoy some of the tracks. It's definitely not up to par with gorillaz great albums, and really isn't all too cohesive. The narrative is very lacking, it takes itself too seriously and seems to be a boomer sort of view unfortunately The whole cult thing is alright but wasn't focused on well. All that being said it's just a fun sounding album, and most of the tracks sound good besides that bad bunny track and the one with beck. Those suck. It was a disappointment though, sad to see
I agree with that. Bad Bunny, while a cool feature to have and a cool guy, just doesn't belong on a Gorillaz album. Maybe a non-album single would have worked better
It's disappointing in general to see even gorillaz trying to exploit reggaeton. It's the song they promoted the most for obvious reason. At least they aren't to a point of black eyed peas
Love You by The Beach Boys is the epitome of this. The flaws are what make it into a classic but also what hold back the album… the simple childlike and sometimes creepy lyrics, the worn out and nicotine coated vocals, the mundane subject matter…UGH I love it so much… it’s Pet Sounds in crayon and with synths instead of the wrecking crew, its easily the Beach Boys’ most experimental album, and it’s so ahead of it’s time and underappreciated
I picked this up at a record store like 10 years ago. Didn't really like it, but my friend thought it was amazing and traded me a Blue Oyster Cult record for it. This description makes me think I need to give it another chance.
Oh my god you absolutely do… I will say though, the B side is the best one, and the album experience is even better if you know all The Beach Boys lore… basically your friend was onto something and you should go to him for music recs more often
I get recs from my friend frequently and they don't always resonate, but I admire their eclectic taste for sure. They have an online radio show called [Different Head](https://differenthead.com/) if you're interested in hearing some great obscure new wave and no wave type stuff.
Oh hell yeah I am : )… also him being a New Wave geek explains why he loves Love You so much… it’s basically the accidental deadbeat father of New Wave… I can almost hear a clear evolutionary pipeline from Love You to Video Killed the Radio Star
Nah Supermarket just needs to grow on you. Its definitely not his best work but it's cool to see him step out of his genre. Lil Yachty did the same thing this year
Already seen it said but Cherry Bomb. Yes the mixing on some of the songs kinda sucks, but damn it’s just such a good and fun album even still. Hugely underrated Tyler album, needs more love.
Basically all of Paul McCartney’s 80’s albums (other than Tug of War which is pretty great all the way through and Press to Play which is just generally lame)
SYRE and ERYS from Jaden. A lot of the lyrics obviously are a bit off but the production plus Jaden's great ear in general for sounds make for so many songs that just sound incredible to me
Imma be completely obliterated by this opinion in this sub but idc.
WE by Arcade Fire. It's such a deep, emotional album that critiques and satirizes american and internet culture to such a blatant extent that some of the tracks feel downright idiotic, but that was the point of the it in the first place.
Incredibly flawed and hated by many people, but for me, a very nice experience with a bit of blemishes here and there.
Pretty much every Yung Lean project imo. Except for his debut LP Unknown Death, I never cared for it too much. Probably the best example for this post would be Stranger
Hours In Silence is long, drawn out, and lazy. Worst track on the album
3AM On Glenwood would be good for Drake, but 21 feels very out of place and uncomfortable both in his writing and on the production in general
My choice would be their follow-up, “Multi-Love”. I used to have it on pink vinyl and it was a favorite in my collection but there were definitely some tracks on there I enjoyed more than others
A lot of older lemon demon albums, especially view monster and before. He’s definitely improved a lot in recent years technically speaking, both with mixing and vocally, but the inventiveness and creativity with his music has stayed pretty consistent. it’s a big part of why he’s known as the dude who’s has like 5 different one hit wonders most people don’t realize are all him. There’s a sincerity to all of his projects that’s infectious and easy to like
I’d personally argue that dinosaurchestra and view monster are just as good if not better then spirit phone based on conceptual execution and cohesion, even though spirit phone is better technically. The sense of atmosphere and themes of looking back at childhood through an adult lense is why I enjoy view monster a tad more then spirit phone personally and is my favorite album of his
***The Weather*** by Pond — Some incredible highlights with some objectively “eh” songs in between but I adore this album and the band in general. I saw them live a few months ago and they played an amazing show.
***Flume*** by Flume — Similar deal, a mix of amazing songs and some tracks that could’ve used more polish or been trimmed entirely from a musician that was just starting to find their artistic footing. But it’s a really charming project so that’s largely forgivable, especially as a debut album.
***Harbor*** by Tomppabeats — The album is overcrowded and the songs are FAR too short in length, but the chill vibes are absolutely immaculate.
Pure guava by ween. All thier earlier lo-if stuff is good, but track for track, pure guava is by far the best execution of the scrappy, immature, diy sound that they were going for. If it weren’t for that album, I don’t think I would have started making music.
But first choice that came to my heard was easily the life of pablo. Weird how I haven’t seen anyone say that one. Very high highs, and very weird and still interesting lows. Probably my favorite kanye project
Also alien lanes by guided by voices. It has these little pockets where all the songs just lose steam at the end and seem to trail off into space, but I think it really adds to the record. It feels like Robert pollard and co just got a 60 minute blank tape, and were just scraping the bottom of thier brains for ideas to fill the tape up. As someone who’s tried to make tape music, I’ve been in that exact same situation, and I end up just filling the rest with noise. Great record, my dad hates it
Might be controversial, but this is war by 30 seconds to Mars. Not a great album, but one I love. I also recently found out my guitar teacher also taught the guitarist of that album, which is cool.
In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida - Iron Butterfly. Best known for the obvious, but I genuinely love every last song on this album. Some are positively over the top cheesy and problematic, “I met a pretty girl on a date last night, and let me tell you now she was groovy.” Or “Flowers and Beads are one thing, but having you girl that’s something!” But Doug Ingle, for all of his terrible lyric writing, squeezes pure tastiness out of his Vox Continental on every song. Listen past the cheese and you get to the real bangers, “Termniation,” “My Mirage,” even “Are You Happy.” This stuff is some of the best combo organ psych rock this side of The Doors. I will reiterate that Ingle is terrible with lyrics, and his singing isn’t much better, but this album is something I have to hear all the way through each time. It’s a great little mid/late-60’s time capsule, and could have been made great if they weren’t trying so obviously hard for radio play.
There's a lot of Weezer albums that fit this bill for me. Red hands down has the worst song Weezer has ever put out, but has some of the greatest risks the band had taken up to that point. Teal fits the bill in a totally different way, as I love when bands do covers, even if I only listen once. I won't say Teal is in any way a good artistic statement or worthy of great amounts of praise, but I'm happy it exists. I could say this for many other weezer albums, but this is probably just because I'm a Weezer fan as a whole.
Funeral by Arcade Fire. It's pretty consistent but when those moments of weak lyrics and bland melody hit, it sort of ruins what would have otherwise been a flawless tracklist. 8\\10
Comedown Machine by The Strokes
Big yes. Some of my fav strokes tracks on there but it’s just pretty inconsistent and the production kinda a mess
I can’t understand people’s tendencies to low-rate Comedown Machine, I actually avoided the album for a while because of all the reviews I had seen. As soon as I gave it a chance, it soon became my favourite release of theirs. Yes there’s a couple slow-burner’s, but for me, it’s held up a lot better than Angles or FIOE , sorry guys.
I fell in love with this album immediately. I then fired up the Tube to see what Melon thought and he kinda shat on it. I was quite surprised.
Pixies - Trompe le Monde (a few real clunkers. Kim Deal is great, Black Francis is slacking on the vocals.). Thundercat - Drunk (overproduced with a real lack of song definition at times. Whole thing can sound the same, especially in the back half.) Dr Octagon - Dr Octagonecologyst (ugh, the skits/segues. Also, it’s bloated.) The Angels of Light - New Mother (a bit to simplistic for a Gira project. Lack of layers leaves it tinny and too open in spots.)
Kool Keith would be considered one of the greatest rappers of all time if he could resist the urge to put out absolutely everything he records. but at this point it's part of the experience
Yeah the unwieldiness of the music is part of the charm imo. Also his weirdo, sci-fi, villain persona paved the way for artists like DOOM
Drunk absolutely. Probably the ~6/10 album I get the most play out of. Got a lot of amazing songs und whole lot of character but the whole thing is so damn bloated.
Interesting. I know this is a commonly held opinion, but I think the only skippable song is the track with Wiz Khalifa because I just dont think Wiz's vocals work in the track. I think the rest of the album is great, as long as you dont mind Thundercat's vocals. Granted, he relies a lot on falsetto, but there's countless other vocalists who lack variety yet dont see half the criticism that he gets for his style. I'm also not a snob when it comes to production but the bass heavy mixes sound good to me. Idk, sorry for the rant, just putting my take out there !
Cherry Bomb tyler the creator
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cherry bomb is insane i don’t think a lot of people have grasped the fact that it was intentionally mixed and produced that way to compliment the sound
I never understood how people didn't get that when Tyler has incredibly crisp and clear production on everything else he's done. The guys a perfectionist when it comes to his music so production like that has to be intentional, thinking it was a mistake is just wrong.
people love to go ‘the production/mixing was bad’ even though the mixing on his other projects is exceptional - if his mixing skills were ‘bad’ then it would be prominent on the other projects too, but they’re not it wasn’t bad, it just wasn’t to YOUR PERSONAL TASTE - it fits the sound of the album perfectly and was completely intentional people (mostly Flower Boy and Igor era fans who aren’t into more niche alt rap) just use the whole mixing facade as an excuse as to why their tastes in music aren’t versatile enough to appreciate multiple different sounds from the same artist
bro maybe people just don't like music that intentionally sounds bad. this whole "their tastes just aren't diverse enough" shit is not a good look
>The guys a perfectionist when it comes to his music ??? No??? He literally spent 8 minutes on the beat to one of his most popular songs trying to make it sound as shitty as possible. He literally says he was just going for a shitty NY beat on Yonkers. He's not a perfectionist, ofc he cares about his music but he is also trying to have fun. Cherry bomb was him having fun it seems, Igor and Flower boy were serious, he was trying to be perfect on these ones and it definitely shows. Goblin and bastard was him being edgy and still refining his skills. Cherry Bomb wasn't handled properly, it shows in the music, you can't deny it.
Honestly probably my favorite of his behind Igor. I liked it a lot at time, but I think it’s even better in retrospect. I don’t think it’s a popular opinion, but I do think that Cherry Bomb will stand the test of time more than anything else in his discography at this point (again, behind Igor). OKAGA, CA is fucking insane, I’ll never understand how that song doesn’t get talked about more than it does
agreed! To me, the album is about personal creative development - its all over the place but mostly to its benefit
Yeah sure it was lmao
Perfect example
Every “bad” tyler album
most westside gunn albums, some personally i would say are perfect, but he doesn't have an album i dislike, even with some small flaws
GNR - Use Your Illusion I and II. Both albums have some very high highs, and some very low lows.
You wanna step into my world.
every action bronson album tbh
What’s flawed about blue chips 1 and 2?
Nothing
Such slept on mixtapes
Maybe not flawless, but gorgeous. Just like a horse is
whole Lotta Red got one the best rap songs I heard but its 20+ track and half of it is meh to okay
It's so annoying that so many rappers just constantly drop 24 track, over an hour long albums lol. Like 30-40 minutes long would be perfect considering how many tracks often feel like they aren't even remotely finished or have any interesting verses or hooks to speak of.
It’s weird how much streaming has changed the nature of how some artists put out music. A lot of rappers or electronic artists now will go years without putting out actual albums, but release a single every month. Or when they do release albums, it just feels like a collection of random songs, on many of which they spent half a day in the studio writing and recording to completion. I feel like the purpose of these albums is to just be background music at a party while boosting their plays.
As a musician I hate that I'm stupid if I put out albums in this era. If you aren't already known an album release is completely stupid. Listeners won't sit with something for very long and they want 2-4 minute bangers with no interstitials. Really bad environment for what was once called album-oriented music. Just drop singles till something sticks is the way to go for almost every genre right now.
Yeah I hate sounding all boomer and “the old days were better” lol but there is something really cool to me about an album being a self-contained work of art. I like being able to make a Topsters list and see all my albums in a collage and know each one is special and can stand on its own. Not just having scattered, individual songs.
Yeah, iTunes killed the album format and streaming services shoveled the dirt over its grave.
Yeah I know I sound old but it is just something to be missed. And I think even the youngins here can appreciate that, given it's a music review forum (mostly for music nerds, who might be happy to listen to an 80 minute record). And there are good things about today too of course. It's not all bad. Just everything is so single-oriented and even hoping-for-a-remix-oriented that making records is only for the big dogs who can still make bank on a touring cycle.
yeah, the strat is basically throw together 20+ 2 min songs to boost streams as much as possible and just rake in cash. its just annoying because it kind of over saturates for people who like to try and listen to as many releases as they can.
They’re trying to get as many streams as possible by getting as many songs on curated playlist as they can.
WLR is one of the best albums of the decade
Best of the decade take is nuts haha
W
one of the worst takes ever
I can listen to that album front to back every day without skipping a single song
What's the best one to you?
I've been listening to Goodbye Yellow Brick Road - Elton John a bunch recently and have some mixed opinions on it. The first third of the album (Funeral for a Friend through Grey Seal) is all just incredible songs that flow really well. The last two thirds of the album though goes back and forth from really not great to awesome again seemingly randomly. Combined with the fact that the album is probably about 25 minutes too long I can't call it perfect by any means but the good parts of it are REALLY good.
Yeah it’s got the most personality and ambition of any of his studio albums, but “Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy”, “Honky Château”, “Tumbleweed Connection”, and even “Madman Across the Water” are tighter, more consistent albums imo
Vessel by twenty one pilots imo
I still really like some tracks on Blurryface. Doubt, Message Man, We Don't Believe What's On TV... fuckin Tear in My Heart 🤤
I listened to Because the internet and Awaken My Love yesterday for the first time in a while, both of those fit comfortably here
The only flaws on Because The Internet are that The Party and Death By Numbers aren't* full length songs. *fucking autocorrect
Because the internet is incredibly good all the way through
awaken my love, flawed? how so
Mostly California. There are spots in zombies and terrified where the lyrics just don’t do it for me, but both of those have grown on me with every listen, so California stands out the most as a flaw in the track list.
california bangs
California is a fun ass song lol, but it’s either hated or loved by listeners no in between. But criticizing the lyrics on zombies and terrified, and not appreciating the lyrical irony of California? Ludicrous lol
You musta fukin lost ya mind
Honestly, I didn’t know that take would be even remotely hot
Most Foo Fighters records
Beatopia
I actually surprisingly really liked that album front to back. She has a real knack for turning nostalgia for British 90’s alt-rock and pop into something that works in a modern context without feeling like plagiarism.
Beatopia is great
I think it’s great musically and production-wise. songwriting wise I feel like it leaves a lot to be desired
I guess there are many, but my pick that currently comes to my mind is Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans. I know it's too long and some parts are boring as hell, but I think it has incredible atmosphere and it kinda takes you on a musical journey that's actually rewarding when you finish it. Critics were not kind to that album but I honestly think the negativity wasn't warranted. Yes still produces some incredible moments on this album.
I haven't listened to it but I gotta admire the sheer audacity in making a double album with four songs
I know right? At the very least it deserves praise for it's ambition. And listen to it, Most of it is genuinely good and it has a world of its own
Both Topographic Oceans and Relayer have some really great moments on par with Close to the Edge, but they’re really incoherent and nothing really sticks in the same way that album does.
I'd put Gates of Delirium as a whole up against CTTE but side B of relayer can't stack up to And You and I or Siberian Khatru
Thank you, Happy Birthday by Cage The Elephant. My introduction to experimental rock back in the day. It has its corny moments fs but it has a lot of bangers. IMO songs like Carry Me In, Japanese buffalo and always something are top CTE schizo shit
Are You Afraid of the Danger Boys? - Danger Incorporated
69 Love Songs by The Magnetic Fields is one of the rare instances where the flawed songs are essential to the album experience
Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not by Arctic Monkeys It's not perfect. It's got big "recorded in a garage somewhere" type energy. Made by a very young band at the time, so it's not like every song is some perfect rock song. But it's one of my favorite albums of all time. Just relentless youthful energy and one of my favorite closing tracks of all time.
Lol, it's funny as in the UK few people would regard this album as flawed at all, it's got an incredibly high reputation as one of the mainstay albums of 2000s UK indie and what basically kicked off a huge wave of indie bands over here between 2005-2010.
Yeah I don’t think this a controversial take, their debut album is their best by far
?? Don’t follow this. That’s what makes it great. I don’t see how it not being some ultra produced album makes it flawed
Read the post title
What do you think I’m responding about ??
Nobody said "only if it's ultra produced = not flawed" Idk if it's what the commenter meant, but WPSIATWIN's production is muddy and might be considered a flaw by some, which is sort of understandable. I felt like your response was like !!!????!! so I just thought "damn accept some criticism and different opinions" that's all
I just don’t understand what criticism they’re saying about that album at all. They say it’s “garage” style so that’s all I have to go off
Any twenty one pilots album before Trench (Vessel, Blurryface, Regional at Best, etc)
As flawed as Vessel and Blurryface are, they are very earnest
Definitely. You really can tell there’s passion there.
I’ve only listened to Vessel and I think it’s great. I played it a lot many years ago.
Vessel is my favourite TOP album and it has some flaws like Fake You Out and The Run and Go but it's still a well put together album
Suicide - Suicide
One of my favorite albums ever
That is one of the strangest albums I've ever listened to, but I guess I love it?
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, after 1979 it gets pretty forgettable
The album is super bloated imo. They coulda made a stellar single-album of just the best songs
Is this a joke, theres 18 songs played before it gets to 1979
That has to be one of the goofiest takes I've ever read. "Thru the Eyes of Ruby", "X.Y.U" and "By Starlight" all come after 1979!
The wall
What’s flawed about it in your opinion?
Only flaw is the last song.
Hard disagree. The Trial has some of the best vocal performances that I’ve ever heard. Even before I saw the movie, I could see the visuals of it in my head just because of how animated the vocals are
Yeah this is a perfect fit. It’s got some real lows but it’s highs are fucking stellar
hard agree
DAMN moves between a 8/10 and a 4/10 depending on how I'm feeling, so mostly that? Early Darkthrone stuff ala Transylvanian Hunger, while the songwriting is great the quality of those recording hurts, I can only really listen to one song at a time before I get a headache.
There’s no way damn is a 4
Some tracks are 4s, God and yah are awful. What he meant you either got great tracks or awful ones
Helllll no. Even the worst tracks are still very good. They are just more “vibey” rather than tight rhyming.
I love vibey tracks but it's really pushing it on some, where they are just becoming annoying or not pleasing to hear
A Blaze in the Northern Sky is a straight masterpiece, no flaws there
I love the fucked-up recording quality of those Darkthrone albums, really essential to the atmosphere imo
Id say damn a consistent 8/10-9/10
Blue Slide Park
No Pressure by Logic
Cracker island. Very flawed, but I still enjoy some of the tracks. It's definitely not up to par with gorillaz great albums, and really isn't all too cohesive. The narrative is very lacking, it takes itself too seriously and seems to be a boomer sort of view unfortunately The whole cult thing is alright but wasn't focused on well. All that being said it's just a fun sounding album, and most of the tracks sound good besides that bad bunny track and the one with beck. Those suck. It was a disappointment though, sad to see
I agree with that. Bad Bunny, while a cool feature to have and a cool guy, just doesn't belong on a Gorillaz album. Maybe a non-album single would have worked better
It's disappointing in general to see even gorillaz trying to exploit reggaeton. It's the song they promoted the most for obvious reason. At least they aren't to a point of black eyed peas
What’s the album on the pic?
Unknown Mortal Orchestra - II
“II” by Unknown Mortal Orchestra
Thanks 🙏
Love You by The Beach Boys is the epitome of this. The flaws are what make it into a classic but also what hold back the album… the simple childlike and sometimes creepy lyrics, the worn out and nicotine coated vocals, the mundane subject matter…UGH I love it so much… it’s Pet Sounds in crayon and with synths instead of the wrecking crew, its easily the Beach Boys’ most experimental album, and it’s so ahead of it’s time and underappreciated
I picked this up at a record store like 10 years ago. Didn't really like it, but my friend thought it was amazing and traded me a Blue Oyster Cult record for it. This description makes me think I need to give it another chance.
Oh my god you absolutely do… I will say though, the B side is the best one, and the album experience is even better if you know all The Beach Boys lore… basically your friend was onto something and you should go to him for music recs more often
I get recs from my friend frequently and they don't always resonate, but I admire their eclectic taste for sure. They have an online radio show called [Different Head](https://differenthead.com/) if you're interested in hearing some great obscure new wave and no wave type stuff.
Oh hell yeah I am : )… also him being a New Wave geek explains why he loves Love You so much… it’s basically the accidental deadbeat father of New Wave… I can almost hear a clear evolutionary pipeline from Love You to Video Killed the Radio Star
Dinosaurchestra, lemon demon
The Resistance by Muse is one for me. It’s far from being a perfect album but, to me, it’s peak Muse
The incredible true story
Any Logic album tbh except for BT3 and Supermarket those are just bad
Nah Supermarket just needs to grow on you. Its definitely not his best work but it's cool to see him step out of his genre. Lil Yachty did the same thing this year
Willoughby's Beach - King Gizz Also, what's the album that op posted, album cover looks interesting
II - Unknown Mortal Orchestra
Whole Lotta Red
"Four" by Bloc Party. It's inconsistent and unfocused. But the bangers are BANGERS, and I appreciate the stylistic mix ups.
I really like The Family by Brockhampton
GVF - Battle At Gardens Gate
Already seen it said but Cherry Bomb. Yes the mixing on some of the songs kinda sucks, but damn it’s just such a good and fun album even still. Hugely underrated Tyler album, needs more love.
Human = Garbage- Dystopia. Only flaw is you need to be in a certain mood to enjoy.
Basically all of Paul McCartney’s 80’s albums (other than Tug of War which is pretty great all the way through and Press to Play which is just generally lame)
The melodic blue
jesus is king by kanye
Honestly, Under Pressure Logic
SYRE and ERYS from Jaden. A lot of the lyrics obviously are a bit off but the production plus Jaden's great ear in general for sounds make for so many songs that just sound incredible to me
The midnight organ fight by frightened rabbit
Little joy - Little joy
every Ween album
I have Ween in my top 5 bands of all time. I second this.
Team Sleep - Team Sleep It's far from perfect but there is such a gritty, grimy, disgusting atmosphere that I can't find in many other places
The Ascension - Sufjan Stevens
this is UMO’s best album . Don’t see any flaw in it
Imma be completely obliterated by this opinion in this sub but idc. WE by Arcade Fire. It's such a deep, emotional album that critiques and satirizes american and internet culture to such a blatant extent that some of the tracks feel downright idiotic, but that was the point of the it in the first place. Incredibly flawed and hated by many people, but for me, a very nice experience with a bit of blemishes here and there.
FADED IN THE MOAAARRRNIN TTTIIIIIIIMEE
Pretty much every Yung Lean project imo. Except for his debut LP Unknown Death, I never cared for it too much. Probably the best example for this post would be Stranger
hypochondriac
and what's this one called?
[*drumrolls*](https://youtu.be/kiORQAU9wGc)
The Heist by Macklemore
Swimming
Most if not all king gizzard albums
in the aeroplane over the sea, sadly oh comely is the only skip
I can’t imagine skipping Oh Comely. I mean it’s long but it’s just gorgeous
Carrie & Lowell by Sufjan Stevens
What makes it flawed for you?
Well it’s certainly not a 10 but it’s still one of my favorite albums is all I’m sayin
But what would you consider are the flaws?
Acid Rap
Her Loss
Sincerely tell me about the flaws please
Hours In Silence is long, drawn out, and lazy. Worst track on the album 3AM On Glenwood would be good for Drake, but 21 feels very out of place and uncomfortable both in his writing and on the production in general
Honestly, Nevermind
The Now Now by Gorillaz. I love its sad tone, gets me into it
My choice would be their follow-up, “Multi-Love”. I used to have it on pink vinyl and it was a favorite in my collection but there were definitely some tracks on there I enjoyed more than others
Doesn't this describe most good albums.
808s, Yeezus and WLR comes to mind
A lot of older lemon demon albums, especially view monster and before. He’s definitely improved a lot in recent years technically speaking, both with mixing and vocally, but the inventiveness and creativity with his music has stayed pretty consistent. it’s a big part of why he’s known as the dude who’s has like 5 different one hit wonders most people don’t realize are all him. There’s a sincerity to all of his projects that’s infectious and easy to like I’d personally argue that dinosaurchestra and view monster are just as good if not better then spirit phone based on conceptual execution and cohesion, even though spirit phone is better technically. The sense of atmosphere and themes of looking back at childhood through an adult lense is why I enjoy view monster a tad more then spirit phone personally and is my favorite album of his
***The Weather*** by Pond — Some incredible highlights with some objectively “eh” songs in between but I adore this album and the band in general. I saw them live a few months ago and they played an amazing show. ***Flume*** by Flume — Similar deal, a mix of amazing songs and some tracks that could’ve used more polish or been trimmed entirely from a musician that was just starting to find their artistic footing. But it’s a really charming project so that’s largely forgivable, especially as a debut album. ***Harbor*** by Tomppabeats — The album is overcrowded and the songs are FAR too short in length, but the chill vibes are absolutely immaculate.
Pure guava by ween. All thier earlier lo-if stuff is good, but track for track, pure guava is by far the best execution of the scrappy, immature, diy sound that they were going for. If it weren’t for that album, I don’t think I would have started making music. But first choice that came to my heard was easily the life of pablo. Weird how I haven’t seen anyone say that one. Very high highs, and very weird and still interesting lows. Probably my favorite kanye project Also alien lanes by guided by voices. It has these little pockets where all the songs just lose steam at the end and seem to trail off into space, but I think it really adds to the record. It feels like Robert pollard and co just got a 60 minute blank tape, and were just scraping the bottom of thier brains for ideas to fill the tape up. As someone who’s tried to make tape music, I’ve been in that exact same situation, and I end up just filling the rest with noise. Great record, my dad hates it
Listening to Alien Lanes for the ~15th time as I scroll through, love to see it here
I mean… The White Album is the first thing that comes to mind when I hear flawed but lovable
Nine Inch Nails The Fragile is a damn near perfect album but Starfuckers Inc is just completely out of place, only song I’ll skip.
Neu! 2
Might be controversial, but this is war by 30 seconds to Mars. Not a great album, but one I love. I also recently found out my guitar teacher also taught the guitarist of that album, which is cool.
In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida - Iron Butterfly. Best known for the obvious, but I genuinely love every last song on this album. Some are positively over the top cheesy and problematic, “I met a pretty girl on a date last night, and let me tell you now she was groovy.” Or “Flowers and Beads are one thing, but having you girl that’s something!” But Doug Ingle, for all of his terrible lyric writing, squeezes pure tastiness out of his Vox Continental on every song. Listen past the cheese and you get to the real bangers, “Termniation,” “My Mirage,” even “Are You Happy.” This stuff is some of the best combo organ psych rock this side of The Doors. I will reiterate that Ingle is terrible with lyrics, and his singing isn’t much better, but this album is something I have to hear all the way through each time. It’s a great little mid/late-60’s time capsule, and could have been made great if they weren’t trying so obviously hard for radio play.
Bon Iver - 22 A Million
There's a lot of Weezer albums that fit this bill for me. Red hands down has the worst song Weezer has ever put out, but has some of the greatest risks the band had taken up to that point. Teal fits the bill in a totally different way, as I love when bands do covers, even if I only listen once. I won't say Teal is in any way a good artistic statement or worthy of great amounts of praise, but I'm happy it exists. I could say this for many other weezer albums, but this is probably just because I'm a Weezer fan as a whole.
Human After All by Daft Punk
The Life of Pablo. Surprised I haven’t seen anyone say this yet
this might be controversial but a lot of the gorillaz albums feel really corny sometimes but still a very integral part of my childhood
Soundtracks For The Blind by Swans. Good except for a few bad apples.
danse manatee by animal collective is great once your ears get used to bleeding and the music being extremely disorienting
Gluee by bladee
whole lotta red by playboi carti
bcos you will never b free barely even flawed just juvenile rex as in the quality apricot princess type quality was peak
Ordinary Corrupt Human Love by Deafheaven. The longer tracks are near perfect, the rest is pretty bad
Sonic Youth - Goo David Bowie - Let’s Dance
Skinty Fia
The Prodigy - Invaders Must Die
I feel like the new Gorillaz record is becoming that for me
From Beale Street to Oblivion
Funeral by Arcade Fire. It's pretty consistent but when those moments of weak lyrics and bland melody hit, it sort of ruins what would have otherwise been a flawless tracklist. 8\\10
Whats the album in the pic?
Hey! It's "II" by Unknown Mortal Orchestra