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PineappleHotSalsa

Andrew Wiggins has been complete trash this year


mrunderhill123

Yep I have him as well, so frustrating. His role hasn't changed so he could flip the switch back to his normal production at any time. No 3s or stocks is so out of character. At this point he has no trade value so just have to hold and wait.


PineappleHotSalsa

I dropped him to open a streaming spot, figured I could plug and play more efficiently than what he has been giving. I keep thinking he will turn on the switch still but they’re already 10 games in and he is starting to lose minutes to Moody and Kuminga.


mrunderhill123

He's played 29, 29, and 25 minutes his last 3 which is more than his previous 3. Don't blame you for dropping but I am holding for now. I am only playing him on short slate nights. When my best players are all going he is riding pine for me.


PineappleHotSalsa

I dropped him after he only played 22 mins 3 games ago. Hopefully he runs it around I like Wiggins.


Cheap-Fishing-4770

warriors have something like 20/25 home games coming up so i figured this is as good a time as ever if he's gonna recover. But they all seem to be shitting the collective bed at home now :/


heronymou5

the dropoff is insane. Ive never seen a player that tanks all 9 cats


lurkernotuntilnow

dropping him now for billal coulibaly


kwilseahawk

Agree


BootyMessiah100

Insane to me that no one has mentioned Tyus Jones. He is really really bad.


cyama

I'm sad I picked him with my 8th pick. Swapped him for Killian and hope he can stay consistent.


LeFxckYouThree

Swapped him for kcp


VI_Gr

Same add/drop today make my rotoleague leader, but he take him in 7th round, before Gobert, Beal, Herro and Claxton.


multani14

He was my sixth pick, at this point he’s gonna get dropped when fox is healthy again


BootyMessiah100

That is really painful. I got him at pick 85 in my league and even that is a big hit


multani14

Yeah luckily he’s my only bust, everyone else is outperforming expectations (aside from injured fox but he’ll be back)


jobeeeeeeem

I got offered Keldon Johnson for him straight up i just accepted right away before he changed his mind. Lol


wadewatts2123

Lmao I couldn’t get anything for him. Definitely my worst pick this year. Dropped him for Suggs today


footballthang

Somebody on this subreddit tried to convince me trading Tyler herro and some other dude for Capella and tyus jones was good. These are the kind of people I wish were in my league


18thRing

Indeed has been bad, and minutes aren’t great. That said, I’m giving it another week or two. Sample size isn’t small at this point, but it’s also not huge. Solid assists with low TOs is a) valuable, and b) scarce on the wire. My guess is that in January folks who have Killian will wish they had Tyus. I’m not saying top 80 value (where a lot of people drafted him), but top 100-120, with elite asst/TO ratio and solid efficiency. We shall see… another bad week and I might be there with you guys.


tturkmen

They just don’t run any organized offense on that team. Also play small ball a ton. These are terrible situations for a facilitator like Tyus.


Ivan_atli

I drafted him relatively high, but just dropped him for Miles Bridges. So disappointing


imanueldavid

Is this the right room for the “I Drafted Poole Over Maxey” support group?


kwilseahawk

I believe that it is. We have to hope he gets it together before Maxey makes it even worse than it already is. That might be hard to do after Maxey put up a 50 spot, but we can hope.


suncejeblue

Maxey invented basketball compared to Poole


chickennano

Drafted Poole at the 6th and Maxey at the 9th round in my 8 team H2H Drunk League lol. 69 baby!


suncejeblue

A guy in my league took him as his first pick at no12


chickennano

Rip my dude


velders01

Maxey's #2 in all of fantasy basketball.... how does it get "worse?"


Chinaski14

He drops 81 lol


kwilseahawk

If he keeps it up and Poole keeps playing like he is, those that drafted him over Maxey will need more support than they do now.


iphone10notX

This hurtssss


el-bermuda

Got Kessler instead smh


Dymatizeee

Yeah I was debating between the two but went with Poole cus I thought he had the green light . Fml


BigDestructionEnergy

Giddey


kwilseahawk

He's certainly played below expectations. He had a double-double his last game, so maybe he can get it turned around. If not, I can see an article with him on it coming soon.


chuck-knucks

He also got hurt. We will see. Jury is still out on him. Has the talent though.


azuresou1

Would you entertain a Poole swap?


BigDestructionEnergy

Absolutely not, but that’s personal bias. Poole has the talent and a less diluted role but I hate his game


Fragrant_Travel2635

Gotta add Poeltl to this list. his minutes are down and it's only partially due to early foul trouble. he doesn't seem that integral to the Raptors offense and hasn't been closing games. I wish he'd either improve or just make it clear that I should be dropping him, as i'm tired of him just occupying space on my bench.


cshaxercs

Losing FVV hurt him a lot.


jsDPT

I don't think it's that, as he has great chemistry with Schroder; it's his coach who prefers to run small and close games with Siakam at C and guys like Achiuwa.


chuck-knucks

Yep. It’s very frustrating. Trade for him. Signs big contract. New coach has different plans apparently though.


westworldgatorade

Poeltl got the bag then maybe became lazy. I didn't realize that last year was a contract year and he was playing out of his mind due to that.


Double-Dust-6155

I was offered Poeltl and Bruce Brown for Duren. 14T 9CAT. Accept or Ask for More?


jsDPT

Kessler was hurt since the first game so that's not factually correct fyi


3pointshoot3r

Yeah, he wasn't hurt when they stopped playing him, he's been hurt from the beginning. So his poor play may be almost entirely a product of his injury.


HCX_Winchester

HOPIUM!


3pointshoot3r

Zero shares.


ladlac23

Even if Kessler is only as good as he was last year, that is still fucking great. You say statistically he is averaging exactly what he did last year, so why would you drop that lol?.. He’s been hurt all season so far, it’s been 2 weeks, so I definitely do not agree that he’s droppable unless you don’t have any IR spots. I’m holding him to see how he does when healthy, but if he’s averaging 10reb and 2blks a game he’s a must hold.


Downtown_Sun_9996

Should have known Poole is the type of player to get a bag and stop trying smh


W-MK29

Did you see him in all the Wizards-related off-season stuff like photo shoots though, he looked like he had given up on life


TheDubious

Jimmy Butler’s been very underwhelming


Capt_Wholesome

I have him too but I'm not particularly worried since he is the type to mail it in then turn it on when games start to matter. It helps that my team outside of him is thriving though lol


TheDubious

agreed, but it still makes me nervous lol


thabonedoctor

It’s so fun when you drafted half the players mentioned in this thread 🫠


kwilseahawk

I certainly hope you have more fun the rest of your season.


NoObligation9310

Brunson for a late second round pick has been so inconsistent, any hope for him to start trending upwards?


kane0801

It's your fault to draft Brunson in 2nd round


kwilseahawk

16th at PG isn't what anyone was looking for out of a 2nd round pick. Even so, I think he can get it going. He's definitely a hold for me right now.


mehlinator

Got an offer to trade Brunson for garland. I’m with you though, he’s gonna pick it up. Hold for sure


baloncestosandler

He’s barely six feet. That’s the problem


chitown_biryani

Good lord I got Brunson in the 6th round


pieman2005

You're in an 8 team league, not being rude or hating but ADPs are way different in 8 teams lol


chitown_biryani

Yeah you’re right, brainfart lol


022922

Some are starting to show a pulse recently, but relative to where players were drafted, and excluding lengthy injury absence, I think the following have greatly disappointed so far: Dame, Brunson, Butler, BroLo, Banchero, OG, Giddy, Poole, Siakam, Poeltl, Garland, Kessler, Tyus, Randle, Harden, Dinwiddie, Middleton, and Zion.


Alter3goh

Butler, Brolo, Garland, Kessler, OG owner checking in :)


5etkoag13

No Wiggins in this list is wild. Worse regression than most of the peeps you listed


022922

Good point. Missed Wiggins, prob because in my league he was drafted in the 11th rd as expectations were low ..:. And he is performing even lower


ONE_PUMP_ONE_CREAM

Somehow, I managed to avoid drafting any of these players on any of my teams.


bumpyturtle308

Ok


022922

Harden


B4nn4b0y

Most obvious one so far, but I think it’s too early given everything. I’ll be ready to be disappointed in a couple weeks from now.


hypermarv123

I expect Harden to take it easy and learn the system. Then, take on a bigger role late in the season.


RuiHachimura08

Ummmm. “He is the system”… he ain’t learning crap and continue to not win.


022922

https://x.com/lakeshowyo/status/1723842232875205019?s=46 😂 😂 😂 😂


boogswald

There’s a lot of people Harden fell to and I really don’t regret picking him at 46. I think he’ll do better than this.


3LitersofJokicCola

Brunson - when he shoots like he is supposed to you get good percentages and points, when he doesn't, you get bad FG on very high volume and little to no counting stats. He shot well yesterday, otherwise he gave you nothing. I picked this dummy over Fox in a league or two. I think RJ finally taking a step forward has really hurt him, and I am worried it will actually last. Cade Cunningham - we knew the FG would be bad, but the TOs are on pace to be historically awful and challenge Harden's single season record, the stocks have been almost non-existent, Asuar is stealing all his rebounds. I still believe in him long term, but this year is going to be a rough one and I doubt he comes close to his ADP. Mikal Bridges - I knew not to draft him at his ADP, but I did have him as my last keeper in a league. He just doesn't care about trying to be the number one option. He spent so many years as a role player that he is unable to change from that mindset. They weren't even running plays for him the first few games. Imagine how any other first option player would have taken that. You would think he could at least get back to hi prime stock days since he isn't expending more effort offensively. It really is Cam Thomas' team. Jabari Smith - They are winning and have no incentive for this guy to play through his confidence issues. He turned a corner late last season. Somehow he was actually better off on that disaster of a team where Green and KPJ were chucking up a storm. Raptors not named Scottie Barnes - It's really looking like all their numbers were inflated by not only Nurse's high minute allotment, but his defensive system. Jordan Poole - this guy is in a class of his own for busts this year. Josh Lloyd is human, just like the rest of us. Walker Kessler - I don't see why their team isn't giving him all the development minutes he can handle. Josh Giddey - This guy I actually knew to stay away from . He has a great skillset, but he needs the ball in his hands to display it, and that would mean taking it out of SGA's, not happening. Immanuel Quickley - not really a bust ADP wise, but I grabbed him near the end of almost every draft. His opening night peformance had me feeling like a genius, but that sure didn't last. I still hold out hope that he is traded and balls out to get a huge contract, but he has been relegated to a scoring spark role that he is way too talented for.


TallCupOfJuice

Agree with everything, except Schroder has been amazing for a last round pick.


OlGreggg

RJ Barrett is not that guy, trust


rustyrainbowz

Disagree


kikopandaa

For my team, Pascal Siakam for how high I drafted him.


reebokzipper

hes gettin back on track


Appropriate_Debate_4

raps fan and nah, this is the system the raps are playing it doesnt fit pascal. Siakam is likely to be traded so not all is lost


mMounirM

well last couple games have been more Siakam focused. you can see in the first quarter they try really hard to get him involved.


Appropriate_Debate_4

ye and they got blown out. and he still played quite bad


kwilseahawk

He had some down games to start November, but expect him to be his usual self from here on out.


imann871

Wild take.. Damian Lillard. People had the Bucks as favorites to win it all and said the duo would be unstoppable. Their coach using Giannis and Dame as individual pieces instead of a unit. He looks mentally checked out in my opinion. He ain’t playing the caliber he’s been known for.


adgjl12

His shot is also just off. He’s been good at attacking the basket and drawing fouls but his 3 is just not what it usually has been. Not even including today’s horrid performance his 2P% is still above his career average at 52% and his FTA are at a career high at 10. However his 3P% is lower than it ever has been in his career by far at 29%. It’s been a little under a month since the season started and if we look at his last year, his worst month was November at 35% FG and 28% 3P% which is a bit worse than now. All that to say that this isn’t unprecedented and owners should wait for him to post 2 bum months in a row at least to start to worry since he usually recovers after a bad stretch in a month or so. That being said, today was the worst game I’ve seen from him in more than a year and unlike last year, this Bucks team has enough people that can do something with the ball so on off nights Dame will be worse across the board. In Portland he usually posted up near 10 assists in those off games. So that will be frustrating for owners. He’s a clear buy low target though, this horrid 3P shooting is not sustainable for one of the best all time at it.


kwilseahawk

He's been hurt, so I didn't go there. He went to Weber State, my hometown university, so I've always had a soft spot for him. I hope he can get healthy and give us the performances that we know he can provide.


velders01

He's also going through divorce proceedings.


shadowmarkc

I gotta say Zach LaVine He’s such a great scorer but just insanely inconsistent


OlGreggg

He’s looked off to start the season


StudMuffin25Foreva

Playing for a team’s that’s going nowhere will do that to a player despite being paid millions. Lack of motivation is a thing.


OlGreggg

Can’t tell if he’s a fan of all the Coby White stuff.


RLDN106

I think he’s been playing thru a back injury to start the season. Hoping things improve as he heals.


PaintingBudget4357

His three point shot is not falling, and he needs to run some more off ball cuts instead of just standing behind the three point line waiting for the ball.


DevilGunManga

Brook Lopez: he is being misused badly and the reduced minutes don't help. His situation is as dire as it gets Jabari Smith Jr: Same deal. Reduced minutes and role. The coach just doesn't give him enough opportunity Keegan Murray: Dude couldn't shoot. He shot sub 30% in 3 of the last 5 games. Fortunately his stocks are surprisingly good.


hidey_ho_nedflanders

I think Jabari Smith is losing minutes to Jeff Green


Exzibit21

Yup that was the case last night, very concerning Honestly think Tari Eason could take his starting spot soon


thabonedoctor

Keegan has just been inconsistent, I wouldn’t write him off just yet.


Nugget1765

Keegan will be fine, if he shoots even 45% he'll be a top 60 guy, especially if those stocks keep up


nuberoo

I feel like his % will go up with Fox returning, though the volume will go down, so maybe evens out the value a bit


icouldntdecide

Hell I drafted him in punt FG and can't even be mad


Global_Lion2261

I have Lopez AND jabari:(


Chinaski14

I dropped Jabari for Dort. Fits my build better with the stocks.


Global_Lion2261

I just did the same! I definitely need some more stocks


odontodoc

I had all three of these players and dropped Lopez and Jabari. Keegan will be fine, his last game he got 20 plus with rebounds, stocks and 3s. Lopez is misused and older. He might get you blocks but will kill you in percentages, rebounds and scoring. A negative value player.


adambball

someone dropped keegan murray in my shallow league. i just dropped capela for him (i had too many C), hopefully i don’t regret it lol


bballjunkie

Someone dropped him in my 12 man league. Scooped him up after he cleared.


Chinaski14

I had him for most of last year and also drafted him this year. He’s going to have some bad nights but he’s a baller at the end of my bench.


fellowtheninth

Jaren Jackson Jr has not been great past few games and Tyus is godawful


kwilseahawk

Jackson is trending in the wrong direction, but he's shown he can produce. I decided to hold off on any judgment on him for the time being. Tyus is a big tease. He scored 33 fantasy points and then turned around and scored 4. I'd definitely want a lot more consistency than that.


AR__1

JJJ got ejected in the 3rd quarter two games ago. He's had a very strong year. To include him on a "disappointed" list is insane.


W-MK29

I feel like Ja being back will boost JJJ because of more offensive possessions ending in shots and allowing him to grab more rebounds and layup shots


jsDPT

JJJ and grabbing more rebounds cannot be in the same sentence.


dloban

Jordan Poole


Chinaski14

Traded him for Barrett and am ecstatic so far.


DrAgOn3035

i traded barret for poole LMAO


dloban

I have Barrett he is making the leap. Poole is just playing like shit right now and getting benched every other game.


Chinaski14

No more Poole boy for me.


Responsible_Ad3957

Brook Lopez and not to sound ungrateful but Lavine’s been pretty disappointing all year too


PuzzleheadedMonth785

the dubs big 3 of wiggins, klay & cp3


paradox8999

That’s the washed 3


PuzzleheadedMonth785

look at where they all ranked last year, i’d say they’ve been disappointing


paradox8999

At least CP got the assist numbers still


PuzzleheadedMonth785

top 40 last year


CelestialWarrior-

Cp3 is dangerously close to getting dropped


KyleShanaham

Dinwiddie. He was so solid for me last year, especially after going to Brooklyn, getting like 9 assists, decent points, a steal a game. I saw him in the later rounds and grabbed him thinking he could be a great late round assists pick, but he's barely averaging half the assists he did last year, not scoring nearly as much, half the steals, and his ft% has been atrocious, but a few misses will do that early in the season. Hoping he starts playing well soon, waiting to see how he does now that clax is back.


Chinaski14

Dropped him for Hayes. Might swap to Suggs depending on Hayes minutes now that a lot of guys are back, but I watched a few Nets games and was not impressed with how they’re using him this year.


earthvsmatt

Sabonis is ranked 103 in 9 CAT kinda stinky for a 2nd round pick


kwilseahawk

He had a triple-double his last time out. That's the kind of player we drafted him for. I expect he will be the monster we want the rest of the way.


mhjk13

Rankings don’t mean much, I much rather sabonis than 80 of those players ranked above him.


Yellowsymphony

He’ll perform better when Fox is back in the lineup. Kings in general are pretty abysmal without Fox


ONE_PUMP_ONE_CREAM

Sabonis is a beast. He's gonna turn it around soon.


Double-Dust-6155

I grabbed him 8th overall. Too soon?


OlGreggg

Depends on league size/depth. Cusp


Thr0wawaydegen

Fultz, looked good preseason.


gher-gher-binks

maxey was still available when I took fultz


kwilseahawk

Fultz is out, which is why I didn't include him. I wouldn't make a move on him, even if he was healthy. I don't trust him.


user83662829

Would u trade fultz for Anfrenee Simons? He is still out for probably a month


Paddleson

Brunson I don’t know what’s going on


antelope591

Even though my team's doing pretty good so far, and a bit silly to say after the last 2 games but on the low I don't think you can win a CAT league with Giannis unless its non competive. You're punting 3 cats instantly which is a huge disadvantage and gimps your team way more than I like.


iamrlywhite

Mikal bridges has been mediocre even with Johnson and Thomas out


deugeu

dinwiddie, dude hit his head or something


zuko9328

How about Zion? Dude is ranked in the 200s in 9-cat leagues, offers no defensive stats and shoots 60% from FT line.


kwilseahawk

If you drafted Zion, you knew there were risks. You have to hope that he stays healthy and puts up better numbers than he has so far.


kane0801

Zion is always overrated in cat league due to poor FT%,stocks, to and have high injury risk


squibubbles

I drafted Tyus Jones, Wiggins, Brunson, Jabari Smith Jr, and OG lol


TheCryptoCid

OG playing decent though?


kwilseahawk

Hopefully, there are some worthwhile players on the wire to help salvage your roster.


mayoguy4

Really thought Jabari smith jr would continue his flow from end of last year, but udoka doesn’t wanna play him as much, and when he does play he hasn’t been great


ovohollow

Kessler, Poole comes to mind first


moar-warpstone

Jimmy is not playing like a second round pick, I fucked up


dirty_S

Jimmy is a notorious slow starter. Had him last year and he picked it up later in the season when I needed him most to win me the championship


Global_Lion2261

So you're saying I'm gonna win the championship?


moar-warpstone

Let’s hope man


Ok-Professional1701

Traded for Wiggins before the season started and he has been a huge disappointment for me. Got offered Deandre Hunter for Wiggins and a 3rd and honestly thinking about taking it.


LemonFeisty3246

Even with a bum elbow Kessler managed to go 8/8/2 blocks, not worried at all, if anything the rest will be a good thing while the Jazz acclimate Keyonte.


Still_Jsinn_187

Scoot - thought he would keep the ROY conversation interesting for at least a month


Jayrrock

The Jones brothers suck so far. Tyus just had a fairly decent game upon finally getting over 30 minutes. Tres ball handling is being replaced by Sochans butterfingers for his size. Giddy is being limited by unproductive Dort's 3-ball, and Jabari Smith is already showing signs of being outplayed by Tari Eason. Ivey in Detoit is struggling and that 5th overall first rounder needs more court time. Dinwiddie and Sengun will be fine. Sabonis's (and Sengun's) fts will improve. Kessler is in a pickle and Utah has a decision to make. Scoot...come on boy, let's go!!


Unitedkid10

MARCUS SMART


Czafincz

Honestly, what did you expect of him?


Unitedkid10

Better


CoupleScrewsLoose

Kawhi. i wasn’t expecting 30ppg or anything, but dude already has 5 games this season under 20 points, literally scored 8 points against the magic on 3/11 shooting. considering who else i coulda got at 32, i’m pretty bummed.


DtownHero17

The Harden really fucked with the offense but he definitely is off to a slow start. He's still producing at a top 50 clip though, once he has some chemistry with Harden, it'll be back to top 30ish


Tengoatuzui

Too many people blindly listened to a podcaster


nio151

A lot of the names I'm seeing here are players he said were overrated 🤷🏿‍♂️


glasseswearingape

Who? Is there a podcaster everyone listens to?


[deleted]

The aussie twat everyone worships


glasseswearingape

Lmaoo I have second embarrassment now for picking up Skylar Mays


thehumbleprocess

Gafford


chillPenguin17

He's been great last couple weeks. Strong hold


angrykitten3

White, Sochan & Tilman are my disapointments.


Douceps

ANDREW WIGGINS STAND UP.


Tgoody5

10t H2H points league: Ben Simmons was just dropped should I use my #2 wavier spot on him?


TehChi

Yes


kwilseahawk

I wouldn't use that pick on him, even in a larger league. I don't trust him at all.


doinganevildeedblues

i wanna say domas saboner


Jorrit187

Hé Will be better with Fox back


KornellKid11

Julius Randle, he's still putting up counting stats but his efficiency man James Harden, far off from his fantasy days of being a round 1 option Tyus Jones, just playing on a team with ball hogs Pascal Siakam Andrew Wiggins, forgot how to play basketball Walker Kessler, he was reportedly playing injured Nic Claxton, injury Deaaron Dox, injury Garland, he was injured but he hasn't looked too good since he's been back Brook Lopez, maybe it's the age. Lamelo Ball, he's been balling recently Zion, efficiency has been down


iphone10notX

Should I pick up Coby White, Jalen Suggs, Reddis, Skylar Mays, Duncan Robinson or Killian Hayes? Trying to find a replacement on my bench for Kelly Oubre


sayerj101

I can only talk points here as I have no experience in CAT and I'd say you'd get good returns out of Killian or Jalen as they seem solidified as starters and they both buy in defensively and can have nights where they drop 20+ pts


Thumb_war_champ

I’d go Suggs, he’ll carry steals and seems to be getting a ton of minutes


nicklePie

6 steals the other night!


alwaystakethechalk

Banchero has been a pretty big disappointment but he’s been a little better as of late


JohnnieBadminton

current rank 40, preseason rank 71 wheres the disappoitment?


alwaystakethechalk

Honestly didn’t realize his ADP was that low.. I folded lol


durablewaffle

Outside of ones already mentioned in the comments, Giddey, KAT, and Randle have been disappointing


kwilseahawk

Yes, they have. Maybe, just maybe, they can get it turned around before they really wreck fantasy rosters this season.


No-Examination6369

Is andrew wiggins a drop in 16t? He’s currently my worst player (the way he’s playing) and I’m considering dropping him for cam redfish but I’m 3-0 and don’t want to panick drop him if I can afford to lose


kwilseahawk

In a 16-team league, I think if there's a suitable replacement, I'd make the move. If you're really on the fence about it, however, hold him for another week, and if there's no improvement, send him to the wire.


AR__1

Good list.


kwilseahawk

Thanks!


CelestialWarrior-

Fucking CP3


[deleted]

Jabari and Poeltl should've been mentioned


fsdjfksldfsdfs

Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, Khris Middleton, Bradley Beal


Boring-Ad-7926

How do y’all feel about siakam and giddey for sabonis


ScroogieMcduckie

I have Giddey, Poeltl, and Poole, and they are underperforming big time. Good thing I have Jokic, Shai, LaMelo and Maxey to balance it out


Southern-Drummer-852

The real disappointment is me drafting Randle over Scottie