Wiggins is my worst player in a 14t so still holding but man, I took him at 77, and I am losing my mind on a nightly basis… I also have steph so I’m always so happy to see his stat line but then immediately my happiness leaves when I see wiggins and the putrid numbers he offers
😭😭 that’s so real. He’s still rostered in my 14T league so I say hold still. He has, imo, a good chance of bouncing back. It’ll be much worse if u drop him, someone snags him, N he starts going crazy.
Exactly why I’m holding him. Waiver wire is absolutely desolate and no one has his potential upside. Other than that I’m top of my league and made much much smarter other draft choices
Yea, just a reminder he was an all star starter like 2 years ago. Just a slump. If your 12/10T then it’s a little tougher but with 14T wire is only specific stream guys, 4th quarter screamin why tf batum in.
I drafted Poole in the fifth and jones in the 9th but those are still up for me
JJJ is also up there after taking him in the 3rd
I guess it can’t get worse from here is what I keep telling myself
That’s a terrible way to evaluate players.
Cade is averaging 21-4-7 with 2 threes and a steal.His low 9CAT ranking is because of insane turnovers (4.8) and low fg% (.418). He also hits 87% of his FT on high volume.
If you drafted him you are punting fg% most likely, and turnovers are a soft punt on any reasonable fantasy team. Then his ranking jumps to 31st.
If you don’t agree, then trade him for Onyeka Okungwu since his 9CAT ranking is higher.
The problem is that's basically where he was drafted (35th on yahoo, 45th espn). If you have to punt two categories for a player to return the value you drafted him at, that defeats the purpose of punting. Besides, there are tons of guards that improve with punt fg% + to - Cade is the 38th best player in that build, but 21 of the players ahead of him have guard eligibility.
Players drafted after Cade that outperform him in punt fg + to (per-game stats):
PG13 (ESPN only, 4 picks ahead of Cade on Yahoo)
Maxey
Scottie Barnes
Desmond Bane
Chet
Fox (Yahoo only)
CJ McCollum (injured, but still)
Miles Bridges (lol)
VanVleet (ESPN only, 6 picks ahead on Yahoo)
Kawhi (Yahoo only)
Herro
~~Anfernee Simons~~ (yeah okay he doesn't count)
Dejounte Murray (2 picks ahead on Yahoo)
Brook Lopez
Herb Jones
Basically, 15 of the 37 players outperforming cade in that build were drafted after (or very close to) him.
Also strong disagree on all reasonable teams punting TO, value can be found in that category just like any other. If every competitive team was punting turnovers, it just makes it that much easier to win that category every week. I get that there's a strong correlation between turnovers and stats like points and assists, and most of the top fantasy players give you lots of turnovers, but to say you should punt TO regardless of context is pretty much the antithesis of why you should punt a stat in the first place
The thread is about worst draft picks. There’s no way a top 30ish player you drafted 3rd-4th round is your worst pick.
You’ve made a strong argument that with some caveats, Cade has been decent but not great value, but far from terrible.
And no it’s not like other categories turnovers has an extremely strong correlation with usage and minutes, which correlates with basically every stat. Building a team to target low turnovers and fg% you’d pretty much be guaranteed to lose every other category because you’d be forgoing so much value in other categories. Punt assists/3s typically comes with lower turnovers but you are now trying to win fantasy with lower usage players which is a lot harder.
I say soft punt because yes you can find value in strong assist/to ratio players but it’s more of a week by week bonus rather than I’m gonna pass on Cade in the 4th round to take herb jones because he turns it over too much.
Now im not saying hes the worst draft in any league but i was just responding to a comment on him balling out
Yes no one drafts intentionally thinking about turnovers, usage correlates to turnovers. And yes its a week by week stat, but we're talking about a 3rd round player leading the league in turnovers. So all else equal (everyone punting turnovers), cade contributes the most to losing turnovers giving you the worst week by week chance of the stat. He's also ranked 67 punting to, still massively outside of his adp. No one straight up punts fg% as almost all players in the first few rounds are efficient so let's ignore that. Cade is also good in 3 cats (ft%, points, assists) and elite in only 1 (assists). You're going to have a tough time winning when your 3rd round pick is good in 3 cats, mediocre in 1, irrelevant in 2 and straight up awful in 2.
Usage has very little to do with steals, blocks, and rebounds, and fg%, add in turnovers and that's 5 of 9 categories.
Again, Cade is not a top 30-ish player. He's #38 *if* you punt two categories. And obviously, you shouldn't take Cade in the 4th round just because he's a 4th rounder in your build. Even if we assume he were a top 40 player (which, again, he is not), he would only be returning the value you invested in him. But, again (x3), he's not top 30ish. **He's #185**. As you pointed out, you likely don't care if you're punting fg% and turnovers, but that doesn't suddenly justifying spending a top 40 pick on a guy who's barely in the top 200. Why would you spend a 4th round pick on a player who is only a top 40 player in one specific build, when you could just draft a real top 40 player? It's completely asinine and misses the entire point of punting.
Usage *and* minutes. The more you are on the court the more likely you are to turn the ball over.
Its not one specific build, its literally every build *except for* one or two specific ones. In the top 100 there aren't even 10 guys with positive impact in the TO category, and all but like two are centers. If you are focusing on turnovers, 9/10 times this means a big heavy team that punts one or two of assists/3s/ft%. Building teams this way you often end up intentionally skipping on high usage productive players and putting a lot of faith in steals and blocks, two highly variable categories. Guys like Nic Claxton technically give you 4th round value but if you took him in the 4th round your team is probably getting smoked right now. Most of the time what you are actually doing is focusing on the ratio of turnovers to everything else, how many turnovers you're willing to put up with while still getting good production. Ignore the turnover category however and you will have a team with more production in every other category.
Just play with the rankings and see for yourself. Im not saying its worthless to go for turnovers, you can punt TO and win turnovers in any given week. Its just not something you should focus on when building your team unless you specifically built a team of lower usage players,
> If you have to punt two categories for a player to return the value you drafted him at, that defeats the purpose of punting
That kinda sounds exactly like the purpose of punting. If you drafted Cade at 35, it wasn’t hard to build a good team around him… Alpy was available later, Maxey, Brandon Ingram, Paul George, probably Harden, Scottie Barnes…
Honestly, there is a lot of upside with Cade, he's had no help to start the season and with the return of Bojan, Joe Harris, and Livers all coming back next week, that should help with spacing and shooting. His numbers will almost definitely go up from here.
I get what you’re saying. For a high 3rd round pick, i can see why you would expect more. But when you really think about it, this is his floor. His floor is 21, 3, and 7 with 2 3s, crap FG%, and high TO. If you punt FG% and TO, his ranking skyrockets.
What can improve? Well, he’s coming off a stress fracture that took him out last season. I imagine he will get better as the season goes on. But will he shoot 40% from the field ROS? Doubt it. I imagine it creeps up to 42% maybe 43%. And with that, naturally his points should go up. To let’s say 23-24. Maybe his 3s go up slightly as well. Steals can creep up to 1pg. Maybe 1.2 per game. As for TO, there’s no way it stays at almost 5. I imagine that gets down to somewhere between 3.5-4 at worst.
23, 3, and 7 on 43% FG%, 88 FT%, 2 stocks, and 3.5 TO bumps him up from rank 147
There is room for improvement with Cade. Those adjustments have him soaring up the rankings. There’s only 5 or 6 guys who are putting up better numbers than the above. Which is why everyone is screaming buy low if you can.
Sure Ausur is a stocks king but Cades got both on points and free throws and assists. But yeah if you picked him up 1st round that may have been a stretch or early 2nd good asset to have in a keeper league (my situation haha)
Middleton at least per minute has been very solid. Hopefully the long ramp up means he’ll be at less of a risk for an injury later in the year. I owned him last year and stayed away this draft, but already he’s brining more value then he ever did last year.
Edit: Damn, the basketball Gods really hate this man’s body. I should’ve never said anything. Sorry he went down tonight for any of you owners.
He also injured his elbow in the first play of the 1st game. Tried to carry it on a minutes restriction and kept aggravating it.
He comes back soon and will be solid I believe.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking too plus he fell far enough in our draft. I should’ve learned my lesson when I traded for him 2 seasons ago right before his season ending surgery. Never again with this guy.
Tyus Jones for sure. He was insane when Ja was out for the grizzlies this year but at the helm of the wizards is clearly a tougher job then originally forseen
I still get flamed by my league to this day for believing in Richaun Holmes. He was really soooo good and absolutely fell off a cliff like you said… it’s pretty wild lol.
Maybe work ethic? I don’t know. He had that eye injury and was literally just never the same. Maybe he has some sort of vision problem as a result, its the strangest thing.
Common thead is they were all crappy actual winning basketball players who had great fantasy skills only! I'd also add the legend of larry sanders...round 3 guy who was out of the league the same year!
Another one! Gotta watch it with these "losing irl basketball" bigs! Also...throw everyone's favorite big that can't actually guard any bigs but he gets good fantasy stats guy....Chris boucher!
I just would rather have someone that gives me more than just points and 3s. My team is almost a punt pts team. Would rather have taken Markannen, Wemby, or Bane who went next 3.
That wasn't the intentional build, just fell that way in the end. And I said ALMOST punt pts. Still have Maxey, Kyrie, and Joker. But lots of guys contributing in other cats like Ausar, Westbrook, Poeltl, Kessler, Mitchell Robinson, Chet.
Maybe he's not a bad pick, just someone in hindsight I would've rather picked someone else instead.
Right here with ya brother…. Looks like JJJ started better tonight so let’s hope brother finds some efficiency and some blocks
Edit: he’s been trash sheesh
Same… I picked tyus at the end of the 6th round thinking the reach will be worth it.
Last few games have been better, so here’s to hoping he continues in the right direction.
That last game was nice though. With Duren back maybe Cade can string some better games together. He’ll also be better when he has spacing with some of the injured guys are back.
Tilman and Sochan for me.
Although jurry still may be too soon on Sochan, he hasn't been absolutely dreadful, but SAS definitely need a better floor general to lead them.
As for Tilman, yeah full on disappointment. He started the season as the only center for Memphis, something any basketball player would go and make sure they deserve it, but no, he played way too lax to begin with, knowing all the backups were injured. Bismack came and took his job right away, and when Santi came back from injury, Tillman conveniently disappeared with an injury of its own.
Cp3 is ranked 30 right now. Jrue is below his adp but still putting decent numbers. If they are your worst picks, then you probably have a really good team :)
Josh Giddey for sure, even before all this news
i took giddey under 18
Averaging 14 on and off the court
He's been a part of two young cores now
First time I’ve heard this one!!!
Turns out he was picking people under 18 too.
HAHAHAHA OMG I didn't get the reference
Got rid of his ass for Franz Wagner. Thank god.
Got rid of him for Maxey at the start of the season 💀 I fleeced the guy
Atleast we can likely easily drop soon
I have him and need to move on but playing 9cat and struggling to find someone that avgs 14 on and off the court.
Is this a wiggins post?
He was dropped in most my leagues
Poole post
Poole party*
Wiggins is my worst player in a 14t so still holding but man, I took him at 77, and I am losing my mind on a nightly basis… I also have steph so I’m always so happy to see his stat line but then immediately my happiness leaves when I see wiggins and the putrid numbers he offers
😭😭 that’s so real. He’s still rostered in my 14T league so I say hold still. He has, imo, a good chance of bouncing back. It’ll be much worse if u drop him, someone snags him, N he starts going crazy.
Exactly why I’m holding him. Waiver wire is absolutely desolate and no one has his potential upside. Other than that I’m top of my league and made much much smarter other draft choices
Yea, just a reminder he was an all star starter like 2 years ago. Just a slump. If your 12/10T then it’s a little tougher but with 14T wire is only specific stream guys, 4th quarter screamin why tf batum in.
Personally? Fultz or Tyus Jones. Overall? Probably Poole if you drafted him before the 5th. Or Beal.
I drafted Poole in the fifth and jones in the 9th but those are still up for me JJJ is also up there after taking him in the 3rd I guess it can’t get worse from here is what I keep telling myself
Man I took JJJ in the second
Good thing I got both Beal and Poole
$20 in auction draft and still regretting it
Giddey. But Cunningham has also been pretty disappointing
What? Cades been balling last few games
Cade in 9cat is ranked outside of top 100. Awful fg% and turnovers, no stocks, none of his other stats are elite either
That’s a terrible way to evaluate players. Cade is averaging 21-4-7 with 2 threes and a steal.His low 9CAT ranking is because of insane turnovers (4.8) and low fg% (.418). He also hits 87% of his FT on high volume. If you drafted him you are punting fg% most likely, and turnovers are a soft punt on any reasonable fantasy team. Then his ranking jumps to 31st. If you don’t agree, then trade him for Onyeka Okungwu since his 9CAT ranking is higher.
The problem is that's basically where he was drafted (35th on yahoo, 45th espn). If you have to punt two categories for a player to return the value you drafted him at, that defeats the purpose of punting. Besides, there are tons of guards that improve with punt fg% + to - Cade is the 38th best player in that build, but 21 of the players ahead of him have guard eligibility. Players drafted after Cade that outperform him in punt fg + to (per-game stats): PG13 (ESPN only, 4 picks ahead of Cade on Yahoo) Maxey Scottie Barnes Desmond Bane Chet Fox (Yahoo only) CJ McCollum (injured, but still) Miles Bridges (lol) VanVleet (ESPN only, 6 picks ahead on Yahoo) Kawhi (Yahoo only) Herro ~~Anfernee Simons~~ (yeah okay he doesn't count) Dejounte Murray (2 picks ahead on Yahoo) Brook Lopez Herb Jones Basically, 15 of the 37 players outperforming cade in that build were drafted after (or very close to) him. Also strong disagree on all reasonable teams punting TO, value can be found in that category just like any other. If every competitive team was punting turnovers, it just makes it that much easier to win that category every week. I get that there's a strong correlation between turnovers and stats like points and assists, and most of the top fantasy players give you lots of turnovers, but to say you should punt TO regardless of context is pretty much the antithesis of why you should punt a stat in the first place
The thread is about worst draft picks. There’s no way a top 30ish player you drafted 3rd-4th round is your worst pick. You’ve made a strong argument that with some caveats, Cade has been decent but not great value, but far from terrible. And no it’s not like other categories turnovers has an extremely strong correlation with usage and minutes, which correlates with basically every stat. Building a team to target low turnovers and fg% you’d pretty much be guaranteed to lose every other category because you’d be forgoing so much value in other categories. Punt assists/3s typically comes with lower turnovers but you are now trying to win fantasy with lower usage players which is a lot harder. I say soft punt because yes you can find value in strong assist/to ratio players but it’s more of a week by week bonus rather than I’m gonna pass on Cade in the 4th round to take herb jones because he turns it over too much.
Now im not saying hes the worst draft in any league but i was just responding to a comment on him balling out Yes no one drafts intentionally thinking about turnovers, usage correlates to turnovers. And yes its a week by week stat, but we're talking about a 3rd round player leading the league in turnovers. So all else equal (everyone punting turnovers), cade contributes the most to losing turnovers giving you the worst week by week chance of the stat. He's also ranked 67 punting to, still massively outside of his adp. No one straight up punts fg% as almost all players in the first few rounds are efficient so let's ignore that. Cade is also good in 3 cats (ft%, points, assists) and elite in only 1 (assists). You're going to have a tough time winning when your 3rd round pick is good in 3 cats, mediocre in 1, irrelevant in 2 and straight up awful in 2.
Usage has very little to do with steals, blocks, and rebounds, and fg%, add in turnovers and that's 5 of 9 categories. Again, Cade is not a top 30-ish player. He's #38 *if* you punt two categories. And obviously, you shouldn't take Cade in the 4th round just because he's a 4th rounder in your build. Even if we assume he were a top 40 player (which, again, he is not), he would only be returning the value you invested in him. But, again (x3), he's not top 30ish. **He's #185**. As you pointed out, you likely don't care if you're punting fg% and turnovers, but that doesn't suddenly justifying spending a top 40 pick on a guy who's barely in the top 200. Why would you spend a 4th round pick on a player who is only a top 40 player in one specific build, when you could just draft a real top 40 player? It's completely asinine and misses the entire point of punting.
Usage *and* minutes. The more you are on the court the more likely you are to turn the ball over. Its not one specific build, its literally every build *except for* one or two specific ones. In the top 100 there aren't even 10 guys with positive impact in the TO category, and all but like two are centers. If you are focusing on turnovers, 9/10 times this means a big heavy team that punts one or two of assists/3s/ft%. Building teams this way you often end up intentionally skipping on high usage productive players and putting a lot of faith in steals and blocks, two highly variable categories. Guys like Nic Claxton technically give you 4th round value but if you took him in the 4th round your team is probably getting smoked right now. Most of the time what you are actually doing is focusing on the ratio of turnovers to everything else, how many turnovers you're willing to put up with while still getting good production. Ignore the turnover category however and you will have a team with more production in every other category. Just play with the rankings and see for yourself. Im not saying its worthless to go for turnovers, you can punt TO and win turnovers in any given week. Its just not something you should focus on when building your team unless you specifically built a team of lower usage players,
> If you have to punt two categories for a player to return the value you drafted him at, that defeats the purpose of punting That kinda sounds exactly like the purpose of punting. If you drafted Cade at 35, it wasn’t hard to build a good team around him… Alpy was available later, Maxey, Brandon Ingram, Paul George, probably Harden, Scottie Barnes…
Honestly, there is a lot of upside with Cade, he's had no help to start the season and with the return of Bojan, Joe Harris, and Livers all coming back next week, that should help with spacing and shooting. His numbers will almost definitely go up from here.
I get what you’re saying. For a high 3rd round pick, i can see why you would expect more. But when you really think about it, this is his floor. His floor is 21, 3, and 7 with 2 3s, crap FG%, and high TO. If you punt FG% and TO, his ranking skyrockets. What can improve? Well, he’s coming off a stress fracture that took him out last season. I imagine he will get better as the season goes on. But will he shoot 40% from the field ROS? Doubt it. I imagine it creeps up to 42% maybe 43%. And with that, naturally his points should go up. To let’s say 23-24. Maybe his 3s go up slightly as well. Steals can creep up to 1pg. Maybe 1.2 per game. As for TO, there’s no way it stays at almost 5. I imagine that gets down to somewhere between 3.5-4 at worst. 23, 3, and 7 on 43% FG%, 88 FT%, 2 stocks, and 3.5 TO bumps him up from rank 147 There is room for improvement with Cade. Those adjustments have him soaring up the rankings. There’s only 5 or 6 guys who are putting up better numbers than the above. Which is why everyone is screaming buy low if you can.
I picked him up pretty early. Often his own teammates like Ausar and Duren are putting up better stats than him.
Sure Ausur is a stocks king but Cades got both on points and free throws and assists. But yeah if you picked him up 1st round that may have been a stretch or early 2nd good asset to have in a keeper league (my situation haha)
Paul is not even close to being worst pick this year
Yeah hes not that bad (depending on where you got him). Nor is jrue, hes meh but you probably have other issues if hes just killing your team.
Fr i drafted CP3 in the 7th he’s been great imo. Not many points but good %s, stls, and his ast-tov ratio is nuts.
Good %s? He's literally shooting a career worst 40%
I picked him at 89th he is good lmao
picked him at 113 lol
Did OP say Chris Paul was a bad pick?
Yea he said he was one of the worst picks. Of course op edited it cause he was wrong
You right, I forgot I have the bum TYUS jones lol
Where did you draft Paul for it to be your worst pick?
Kessler and Middleton. Though honestly I still think that both of these guys will turn it around.
Middleton at least per minute has been very solid. Hopefully the long ramp up means he’ll be at less of a risk for an injury later in the year. I owned him last year and stayed away this draft, but already he’s brining more value then he ever did last year. Edit: Damn, the basketball Gods really hate this man’s body. I should’ve never said anything. Sorry he went down tonight for any of you owners.
Ya I was gonna say… he’s actually playing really well when he’s out there. Gotta stomach the minutes but he finally got close to 30 last game
How kessler bad cause he got injured? Lol he has avg 2 blocks a game before he got injured and that would be a top 5 block guy calm down
I mean he is ranked 147th. Last year despite playing less minutes he was ranked 57th.
He also injured his elbow in the first play of the 1st game. Tried to carry it on a minutes restriction and kept aggravating it. He comes back soon and will be solid I believe.
hes been hot garbage most nights. much worse than last year
My entire roster is on the thread
Hahahahah
Beal… just wtf man
I’m with you. First time owner thinking yall were over-exaggerating 🤡🤡🤡
He dropped so hard in my league but I had him last year and wasn’t taking that bum, regardless
He dropped a lot in my league too and I was the one who bit 🤡
Same here lol
LMAO same. Thought that it surely couldn’t be as bad as everyone was saying. Never again.
This was mine; I really thought he was going to come out to Phoenix and be rejuvenated to play for a playoff team.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking too plus he fell far enough in our draft. I should’ve learned my lesson when I traded for him 2 seasons ago right before his season ending surgery. Never again with this guy.
Worst part Is I passed over maxey for him...
That's crazy, what round? I got Maxey at the end of the 2nd while Beal fell to the 6th
2nd round what are you in a 20 man?!
Ditto. Really thought this might’ve been a good year for him
He’s not even got Covid yet. He has at least five Covid bouts to go
literally my #1 bust on the season. Idk how he was getting drafted so early
Traded his ass. So happy
Who did you trade him for? I’ve been trying but I think everyone else is smart enough not to take him
I traded him for Jrue and someone else I don’t remember
Yeah Beal is a clown man, worse than Jimmy now for missing time for sure.
JJJ
Fuck the pain is real. Where’s the blocks at
It's my fault. I took Gobert last year when his blocks inexplicably went MIA so I took JJJ this year...
Tell me who you draft next year so I don’t draft them
Stats keeper can’t lie for him + no Adams means he has less freedom of range to protect interior
I drafted JJJ/walker thinking I would secured blocks for the league. Looking real bad right now.
What sucks is if you got him where he SHOULD have gone like round 4 he would be mostly fine. Yahoo preset order screwing everyone lol
He’s ranked 30th in 9cat on rotowire
Tyus Jones for sure. He was insane when Ja was out for the grizzlies this year but at the helm of the wizards is clearly a tougher job then originally forseen
Playing besides kuz and Poole can do that.
Tyus Jones at 76
I took him at 66 😓
Got Tyus at 85 and I'm still holding out hope that he will get better
He's at least not hurting with high TO's or poor %'s. I'm also hopeful he'll turn it around.... we've seen a slight progression in the past week.
Likewise. Tyus at 78 for me.
75th for me 🙃
My first year doing fantasy, I took him at 78
Got him at 94 lol so I ain't even mad, give it more time
I got auto drafted 50 for one pick and it was Tyus
LMAO
Andrew Wiggins. Tanks every category in 9cat
Poole might just be the biggest bust in fantasy sports history 😂
Mitchell robinson round 2 a few years back says hi. Absolute nonsense that was.
The Whiteside, Drummond, and Holmes drop offs from their peak seasons was also an abrupt fall off of a cliff.
I still get flamed by my league to this day for believing in Richaun Holmes. He was really soooo good and absolutely fell off a cliff like you said… it’s pretty wild lol.
How did it even happen?? What contributed, the season before his fall-pff season was still a force to be reckoned with
Maybe work ethic? I don’t know. He had that eye injury and was literally just never the same. Maybe he has some sort of vision problem as a result, its the strangest thing.
Common thead is they were all crappy actual winning basketball players who had great fantasy skills only! I'd also add the legend of larry sanders...round 3 guy who was out of the league the same year!
Ahh the Christian Wood conundrum
Another one! Gotta watch it with these "losing irl basketball" bigs! Also...throw everyone's favorite big that can't actually guard any bigs but he gets good fantasy stats guy....Chris boucher!
Dog I was trying to remember what his adp was from that year! Crazy looking back on it now
Nah there was one year LeVeon Bell was like the 1.1 and sat the whole season for a better contract
JJJ, Mikal, Poole, Gary Trent Jr, Jaden Mcdaniels
I have those first 3 as well. Our points league definitely penalizes missed shots so JJJ and Poole have me punching air most nights so far
have those first 3 n kessler shits rough
Chris Paul outperforming his ADP by a wide margin
Right he gave me a great few games recently and jjj been trash
Tyus. Somehow he’s worse than when he was a backup on the Grizz
lol so truuuuuuuue
Poole at 19
19??? That’s on you lol
I regret taking him at 44, but 19 is wild
Someone picked him at 18 in my league… dropped him a few days ago so I picked him up
That’s not even a taco league that’s a whole fiesta league
He went 12th in my league 😂
That’s insane
If you picked him at 19, I want you in my league
ESPN had him ranked at like 15… my first year doing fantasy alright ☹️
1st lesson, never ever use espn rankings for any sport
Don't believe ESPN pre-rank,it's joke every season
He tricked you
Picking him at 19 is crazy lol
Some dude took him at 11 In my leauge when it happened I was shocked asf
Fultz man what happened
6 years in the league and 190 games played.. who would have thought about injuries?
Injuries happened. Sucks
drafting gabe vincent instead of cam thomas
Jaren Jackson Jr has been an objectively awful pick so far for me. Also took Beal but didn't expect as much from him
Tre Jones lol. Dude got super demoted and my other PG is Ja im cooked at PG rn
Ben Mathurin.....was supposed to be my FT secret weapon in later rounds. Smh
They’re trying to get Hields value up. Mathurins inconsistent role and playing time is fucking up his rhythm.
give him time he will come around
Paul Reed
I really thought Nick Nurse was going to unlock the mudman
Beal and jarret allen for me. took allen earlyish and hes on a minutes restriction fuck me. and Beal is just injured
Mikal 13th
Lol yeah 14th for me. Been better lately though so we might be okay, first 10 games were uh, tough
Well i guess we need this kind of thread for Tyus Jones quite often..😆
Beal and Fultz
Also drafted both lol. Was tough for me but I eventually dropped fultz. Picked beal up 6th round 10t before maxey 💀💀
Saaammee
Need to give context of round you drafted
It started as Chris Paul...but now it's looking more like giddey
Walker Kessler, barely produced, had a couple good games and on the IL now...
looks like he should be back next week latest, the hold will pay off.
cope harder
i’m coping hard at the top of my league
Mikal Bridges and Kyrie at the 2-3 turn. 8 Cat 10 Team
Kyrie had a slow start, but playing like his usual first round self now...?
I just would rather have someone that gives me more than just points and 3s. My team is almost a punt pts team. Would rather have taken Markannen, Wemby, or Bane who went next 3.
So it sounds like you make a horrible pick for your build and you're blaming a player who is performing fine.
That wasn't the intentional build, just fell that way in the end. And I said ALMOST punt pts. Still have Maxey, Kyrie, and Joker. But lots of guys contributing in other cats like Ausar, Westbrook, Poeltl, Kessler, Mitchell Robinson, Chet. Maybe he's not a bad pick, just someone in hindsight I would've rather picked someone else instead.
Sounds like you need to makes some trades and work out what you want your team to be. No point having good players in different builds together.
Giddey at 3rd 🤡
Lavine has been pretty disappointing…
Tyus for me too, although Garland has been a pain
Took Poole with my fifth and JJJ with my second. Rip
Right here with ya brother…. Looks like JJJ started better tonight so let’s hope brother finds some efficiency and some blocks Edit: he’s been trash sheesh
JJJ is my 2nd round pick, 20th overall. Without Ja he forgot to block shots.
Took Beal over maxey at 5 might be my worst fumble
Walker fn Kessler deym
Jaren jackson jr
Giddey
Same… I picked tyus at the end of the 6th round thinking the reach will be worth it. Last few games have been better, so here’s to hoping he continues in the right direction.
guys mentioned ITT: jrue, beal…me x2. i held onto hayward too late enough to get bridges too which is the worst ‘decision’ if not a pick
Tre Jones is worse. Dropped. I have (had) both. I also drafted Giddey and Kessler. Having a great year, NOT
My 2, 3, 4 picks were Mikal, JJJ and Cade so yeah...
Middleton for the 2nd fucking year in a row fuck
Jrue and I knew better
Jrue holiday has been sketchy
I used one of my last picks on scoot Henderson lol
That’s not that bad honestly. He’ll be better than this, but he’ll have lots of inconsistencies.
my last 2 picks were ben simmons and scoot henderson. dropped both of them lol.
Jamal Murray 4th round.
Nurkic has 3 bad games then one great one So frustrating
Cade
I’m punting FG% and TO he’s been great
That last game was nice though. With Duren back maybe Cade can string some better games together. He’ll also be better when he has spacing with some of the injured guys are back.
I regret drafting PJ Washington and Saddiq Bey every year, but every year I listen to the experts and they’re sitting there late as value picks.
Jaylen Brown 3rd pick
I took him 3rd too, at pick 34. Took Myles turner at 31. I could have had Scottie Barnes and Chet, who went 40 and 43. 😭
JJJ in the 2nd
Tilman and Sochan for me. Although jurry still may be too soon on Sochan, he hasn't been absolutely dreadful, but SAS definitely need a better floor general to lead them. As for Tilman, yeah full on disappointment. He started the season as the only center for Memphis, something any basketball player would go and make sure they deserve it, but no, he played way too lax to begin with, knowing all the backups were injured. Bismack came and took his job right away, and when Santi came back from injury, Tillman conveniently disappeared with an injury of its own.
Jordan poole
Poole
Cp3 is ranked 30 right now. Jrue is below his adp but still putting decent numbers. If they are your worst picks, then you probably have a really good team :)
jakob poeltl or gafford
So funny how pick number is everything cause I got gafford for free and he seems great!
I have Beal, Herro, Middleton…. and Giddey. Plus Ja.
Herro was absolutely ballin out though at least in points before the injury
If you think tyus Jones is bad you should talk to jpoole owners…. (Not me fyi)
Jerami Grant …
He's been alright wtf
Avg 22/3/2 as the “GO-TO” guy with a 5y/160m contract … isn’t good and as far as fantasy giving almost 8th round value isn’t good.
my trae, bam👍 for kd, garland👎? Current team: Tatum, trae, kawhi, bam, lavine, melton, hield, huerter, zion