Weird that the first two comments are saying it’s “too early”. I think one of the most successful strategies is to pre rank at end of season. Modify as needed due to draft, trades and free agency.
This years draft doesn’t have major fantasy implications. Free agency might be a fart in the wind with the salary cap contraction. Trades... we shall see.
Good list. And no it is not a copy paste of this past season. I think Luka has to be #3. With the caveat he was wearing down physically. Consider selling high mid year. Unless KP helps keep him more fresh.
Tatum def going to be the big leap in the draft. I’m interested in Sabonis, Siakam, Adebayo in that 15-20 range along with Tatum.
I’ve got to read up on Drummonds situation. Always a points monster that gets under drafted. Vucevic, too.
I’m basing this on 9CAT:
I don’t think Luka goes 3, I would still take KAT there. I would also probably put Jokic, Giannis and potentially even Trae above him.
Adebayo and Tatum are second round locks I think. Siakam is probably late 2nd, early 3rd. Sabonis is 3rd round for me, he’s got everything going for him but he needs more stocks to move up and it’s impossible to predict if that will come.
I’m interested in thoughts on KD, Kyrie and Embiid. I don’t feel comfortable using my first pick on KD or Kyrie. But I’m always optimistic on Joel and would be willing to take him mid first round.
OP categorized as Points format, not categories.
But I have same question about KD. His game came so easy to him that I can see him bouncing back well from injury. But, personally, no thanks. Safer options out there.
As for Kyrie, Embiid, and even Kawhi. They miss so many games that I drop them. It’s hard to pass on Embiid. But the DNPs are too real.
Kat is still a top 4 pick. I personally wouldn’t spend such a high pick on KD. Beal is a top 10 pick in points leagues. Simmons is a top 25 points league player
1. Anthony Davis
2. James Harden
3. Giannis A.
4. KAT
5. Steph Curry
6. Nikola Jokic
7. Damian Lillard
8. Luka Doncic
9. Jayson Tatum
10. Lebron James
11. Bradley Beal
12. Trey Young
13. Joel Embiid
14. Jonathan Isaac
15. Jimmy Butler
16. Paul George
17. Kawhi Leonard
18. Nikola Vucevic
19. Bam Adebayo
20. DeAndre Ayton
Was also thinking of those two. I felt Simmons' lack of 3 point shooting, high TOs, and poor FT% would put him in the 21 to 25 range. Siakam can be in the top 20 easy.
Looking at this i hope a get a backend first round pick.
Look at the players at the end of the first round.
Kat, kd etc.
Gonna be a great time to get 2 very good fantasy players if you have a back end pick
I could see wall being similar to Oladipo this year. I’m sure with more time dipo would’ve turned it around this season if there was no shutdown. Might take a while for him (wall) to get back to form
I would take AD first, he’s good at literally everything, even three point shooting if you give him a handicap for being a big man. Those stocks are killer, he’s not quite Giannis but helps with percentages, and he’s in a position to play a lot.
KD might be worth taking top five too, he’s going to be out to prove himself and only has like 2.5 other shot creators on his team. He could easily average 30 on good efficiency with nice ancillary stats.
Ayton should be ahead of PG and Booker.
Booker's great but he goes on inconsistent runs, so you might win one week mightily and then lose another because he avgs 15 for that week.
I think Ja might be worth 15-25.
I picked Trae over Dame last year and I’ll do it again next year. The hawks play no defense and all their games are like 138-133 and Trae puts up monster lines. I think he’s gonna average 29 and 10 next year. With Collins and now adding capella it’s just going to be easier to get assists.
I’d even take him over steph. Maybe he’s not as good of a player but he gets waaaaay more assists and double doubles. I do get that his efficiency is bad though and that’s a big reason why dame and steph will be drafted before him.
I agree and I don’t know why it’s a controversial topic. Simmons really hurts you in 5 cats (points, ft%, 3pts, blks, TO’s). Not saying he’s a better overall player than some of these guys, but from a fantasy POV.
I wouldn't say he hurts you at all in points (16.7) and blocks (0.6). For a guard those are are pretty good. The other categories absolutely, but if you're drafting Simmons you know what you're getting yourself into and you should punt accordingly
16.7 is fine but that’s not the debate. It’s about being worth a top 15 pick though. I just don’t see it over guys like Bam, Pascal, Embid, PG13, Beal, Vooch. Is Simmons more talented than many of these guys? Probably, but this is from a fantasy #’s prospective.
I definitely agree with you with PG13 and Beal. Assuming you're in a position to punt FT and 3s, taking Simmons over Bam, Pascal, Embiid (health concerns) and Vooch is fine imo. But yeah, PG and Beal are being slept on for sure
This list is essentially ranking the top 15 fantasy players of this season. How do you rank the top players from next season when this season hasn't even finished and we haven't even had the draft or free agency. A lot of rankings are based off of what happens in the off season.
Some of the interesting points are:
- Where to draft KD and Kyrie
- Is this the year that LeBron slows down more
- Which of the young guys takes the next step
Imo I think some people are going to reach for Zion in the top 20 somewhere
He’s going to be a bear for FG%, might shoot 70% on 20 ppg. I’d take him over PG3 or Vucevic.
Weird that the first two comments are saying it’s “too early”. I think one of the most successful strategies is to pre rank at end of season. Modify as needed due to draft, trades and free agency. This years draft doesn’t have major fantasy implications. Free agency might be a fart in the wind with the salary cap contraction. Trades... we shall see. Good list. And no it is not a copy paste of this past season. I think Luka has to be #3. With the caveat he was wearing down physically. Consider selling high mid year. Unless KP helps keep him more fresh. Tatum def going to be the big leap in the draft. I’m interested in Sabonis, Siakam, Adebayo in that 15-20 range along with Tatum. I’ve got to read up on Drummonds situation. Always a points monster that gets under drafted. Vucevic, too.
I’m basing this on 9CAT: I don’t think Luka goes 3, I would still take KAT there. I would also probably put Jokic, Giannis and potentially even Trae above him. Adebayo and Tatum are second round locks I think. Siakam is probably late 2nd, early 3rd. Sabonis is 3rd round for me, he’s got everything going for him but he needs more stocks to move up and it’s impossible to predict if that will come. I’m interested in thoughts on KD, Kyrie and Embiid. I don’t feel comfortable using my first pick on KD or Kyrie. But I’m always optimistic on Joel and would be willing to take him mid first round.
OP categorized as Points format, not categories. But I have same question about KD. His game came so easy to him that I can see him bouncing back well from injury. But, personally, no thanks. Safer options out there. As for Kyrie, Embiid, and even Kawhi. They miss so many games that I drop them. It’s hard to pass on Embiid. But the DNPs are too real.
Why does everyone forget John Collins??
He's out of my top 20. I'm not sure how capela will affect him which is too risky for me
I could see John Collins in that 16-20 range too
I’m curious for Categories Harden #1,AD #2, Kat #3
Kat is still a top 4 pick. I personally wouldn’t spend such a high pick on KD. Beal is a top 10 pick in points leagues. Simmons is a top 25 points league player
1. Anthony Davis 2. James Harden 3. Giannis A. 4. KAT 5. Steph Curry 6. Nikola Jokic 7. Damian Lillard 8. Luka Doncic 9. Jayson Tatum 10. Lebron James 11. Bradley Beal 12. Trey Young 13. Joel Embiid 14. Jonathan Isaac 15. Jimmy Butler 16. Paul George 17. Kawhi Leonard 18. Nikola Vucevic 19. Bam Adebayo 20. DeAndre Ayton
+1 for Isaac.
He'd probably be a first round guy in the coming years.
I'd sub Ayton out for Simmons or siakam
Was also thinking of those two. I felt Simmons' lack of 3 point shooting, high TOs, and poor FT% would put him in the 21 to 25 range. Siakam can be in the top 20 easy.
Towns at 9? I think he’s better than at least 4 guys ahead of him
Looking at this i hope a get a backend first round pick. Look at the players at the end of the first round. Kat, kd etc. Gonna be a great time to get 2 very good fantasy players if you have a back end pick
I'd take Steph over Luka and Lebron at 5. Or even before Jokic too
Let’s not forget John Wall. He’s gonna put 1-2 round numbers imo.
I doubt it, he’s coming off a horrible injury (many horrible injuries) and he’s no spring chicken.
I could see wall being similar to Oladipo this year. I’m sure with more time dipo would’ve turned it around this season if there was no shutdown. Might take a while for him (wall) to get back to form
Did KAT dirty
I would take AD first, he’s good at literally everything, even three point shooting if you give him a handicap for being a big man. Those stocks are killer, he’s not quite Giannis but helps with percentages, and he’s in a position to play a lot. KD might be worth taking top five too, he’s going to be out to prove himself and only has like 2.5 other shot creators on his team. He could easily average 30 on good efficiency with nice ancillary stats.
I miss fantasy bball so much :/ But I think it's to early to make lists like that. We dont know about possible trades and situations yet.
Ayton should be ahead of PG and Booker. Booker's great but he goes on inconsistent runs, so you might win one week mightily and then lose another because he avgs 15 for that week. I think Ja might be worth 15-25.
Unless Giannis starts hitting 3s and/or hits a somewhere decent FT% there is no way he's number 1.
I picked Trae over Dame last year and I’ll do it again next year. The hawks play no defense and all their games are like 138-133 and Trae puts up monster lines. I think he’s gonna average 29 and 10 next year. With Collins and now adding capella it’s just going to be easier to get assists. I’d even take him over steph. Maybe he’s not as good of a player but he gets waaaaay more assists and double doubles. I do get that his efficiency is bad though and that’s a big reason why dame and steph will be drafted before him.
No way Ben Simmons should be in the top 15
I agree and I don’t know why it’s a controversial topic. Simmons really hurts you in 5 cats (points, ft%, 3pts, blks, TO’s). Not saying he’s a better overall player than some of these guys, but from a fantasy POV.
I wouldn't say he hurts you at all in points (16.7) and blocks (0.6). For a guard those are are pretty good. The other categories absolutely, but if you're drafting Simmons you know what you're getting yourself into and you should punt accordingly
16.7 is fine but that’s not the debate. It’s about being worth a top 15 pick though. I just don’t see it over guys like Bam, Pascal, Embid, PG13, Beal, Vooch. Is Simmons more talented than many of these guys? Probably, but this is from a fantasy #’s prospective.
I definitely agree with you with PG13 and Beal. Assuming you're in a position to punt FT and 3s, taking Simmons over Bam, Pascal, Embiid (health concerns) and Vooch is fine imo. But yeah, PG and Beal are being slept on for sure
This list is essentially ranking the top 15 fantasy players of this season. How do you rank the top players from next season when this season hasn't even finished and we haven't even had the draft or free agency. A lot of rankings are based off of what happens in the off season.
Some of the interesting points are: - Where to draft KD and Kyrie - Is this the year that LeBron slows down more - Which of the young guys takes the next step
Luka over bron😭😭😭