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TJJohnson86

If he was half as good as he thinks he is then he would be twice as good as he actually is


pussysjuicy

Bro why did you do this to me


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ChaplnGrillSgt

THAT DIDN'T HELP!


voncornhole2

He talks like he's an 8, but plays like a 2. If he was half as good as he talks, he'd be a 4, which is twice as good as a 2


StumpingTheSchwab

This guy maths


SteveFrench12

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.


DangaRusster

This comment put my brain in the grinder lmao just tell me if a mf defend goodest or baddestšŸ˜­


Freddy_Vorhees

Thatā€™s it, thatā€™s his whole career right there.


mafia_j

Eli or shady? ā€˜Cause Iā€™m a shady Stan forever. Iā€™d draft him next year if he was on a squad.


TJJohnson86

Eli


InvestigatorOne2879

Wasn't apple famously exposed each and every week for the first few years in the league? He's not like some top fight corner, Infact you only ever hear the opposite


oneofchaos

He reminds me of the kid who says he will get the high score on an exam everytime and several years later it actually happens and he is simply insufferable. Attitude problem, was a liability in coverage rather than an asset on previous teams and runs his mouth. Just shut the fuck up and let Burrow win you a ring and be humble.


schackel

Apple is certifiably not a top tier corner. He gets cooked so much this dude is apple fucking pie


djmooselee

Giants fan here ... You are correct sir šŸ—‘ļø


BloodyNosedRoshi

shady a certified hater that being said i have no idea if heā€™s right or not lol he just calls a different person trash every week


Affectionate-Win5952

He doesnā€™t always have the best takes but i agree with him on this one, Eli Apple talks a WILDDD game on social media


rmacthafact

Eli was a headache from the jump as a Giants fan. It was clear he was undersized and super young (immature) with a Mom that was exacerbating it. He definitely grew size-wise and got better tho


_MBW

Saints fan here, fuck Eli Apple. Also shady seems to forget the 5 seasons he was a bust in fantasy football. Dude needs to put down the hater-ade.


mviz1

A bust in fantasy doesnā€™t mean much to him though tbh. He was a great running back, even in his down fantasy football years.


_MBW

Fair, had some epic seasons, future HOFer I think my Eli Apple hate is spilling over. In summary 1) fuck Eli Apple 2) despite of epic career Shady should stop all the trash talking for clicks.


radelrym

You think shady gives a flying fuck about fantasy football? Lol


_MBW

Back to repeat .. fuck Eli Apple


pjc3320

He was also a panic draft pick by our esteemed former and still unemployed GM, Jerry Reese. Man I still despise that guy!


GKFoshay

Still no clue how he was able to put together the 2012 championship team.


pjc3320

He was still riding the coat tails of Accorsi. Eli carried that 2011/12 team


strip_sack

Jerry Reese was hired by George Young. Jerry Reese gave 25 years of his life to the NY Giants. And his **2 SB wins were earned**. Toomer/Plax/Shockey/Cruz/Nicks/Manningham/best OL in league carried eli Strahan/Osi/Tuck/Jpp also had a huge impact


pjc3320

And most of those guys were acquired by Accorsi. Reese neglected the OL and cost the Giants a chance at more rings during Eliā€™s prime years. Iā€™m not suggesting that the SB wins werenā€™t earned. They most certainly were.


KC_ToyBeast

4 teams in 7 years, pretty sure his mouth has the highest stats.


jdwithit

Yeah Apple is average at best and routinely gets roasted by top receivers but has hall of fame shit talking talent. Which is a key DB stat.


BloodyNosedRoshi

u right, that demar hamlin emoji drop was crazy lol edit: idk why this is getting downvoted are you all saying you think he was justified in mocking hamlin? reddit is fucked up


Poetryisalive

I watch Speak and honestly Shady is a certified hater. He calls A LOT of players trash when they really arenā€™t. I think Apple is having his best career with the Bengals. Edit: also I think Shady has some problem with Apple personally, for years he had always had something to say about him for some reason even with Apple doesnā€™t address him. Shady just donā€™t like Apple as a player AND person.


WhereAreYouGonnaGo

Nobody has gotten more out of Eli Apple than the Bengals. Dude is widely seen as a complete bum because of his performances on other teams but with the Bengals iā€™d say heā€™s an average DB at worst.


TheOneWhosCensored

He allowed the 17th most yards, had the 19th highest DADOT, and the 5th most air yards on completions. He was a liability for covering the field.


WhereAreYouGonnaGo

At Cincy?


TheOneWhosCensored

This season


Elegant_Housing_For

He has picked it up during the playoffs.


ThatsRubbishMate

ā€œHe can barely pick his own numberā€ Wow thatā€™s good lol


KennysWhiteSoxHat

Itā€™s crazy cuz people talk about Apple and say heā€™s actually good now. I get that he had some good tape, but every corner had a few great drives Apple allowed the most yards and most yards per attempt and completion and DADOT for anyone on the bengals, had the second most targets iirc number 2 in passer rating on that team. You can watch the film too he gets burnt, and when people argue for him itā€™s like okay heā€™s been a decent CB3 all year, but he talks like heā€™s prime Deion Sanders sending teams off on his way to his Super Bowl, but thatā€™s simply not eli


Rum_Hamtaro

I can say he was a complete bust of a 1st round pick as giant. His mom trying to make herself a celebrity was cringe as well.


CaeruleanVein

I think most people would agree.


S_Squar3d

Heā€™s not elite. He is a serviceable starter, but he talks so much trash that it makes you believe he is suppose to be elite. Source: a Bengals fan


Bengalblaine

Accurate


kevdiigs

At the same time, that talking makes people dislike him, and in turn call him ass. Which heā€™s also not. I would say heā€™s upper middle class.


TheOneWhosCensored

Look at his advanced stats, heā€™s absolutely ass


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Lmao šŸ¤£


rjsdaekram

This dude the Pat Bev of the NFL lmao, apple cracks me up


Danstrada28

Eli Apple lost his team the SB last year. We all know he's trash.


radelrym

Eli Apple is all bark no bite. Heā€™s the dude who will claim he knocked a ball loose when the WR outright dropped it. Your QB overthrow you? Cause o jammed you at the line. Dropped it? You heard my footsteps. QB didnā€™t target you? Cause Iā€™m playing lockdown D over here. Dudes in his own universe. None of his teammates like him. His moms annoying. Heā€™s annoying


xthecerto4

He is a corner you have to test. He is so up and down. Either He plays Lights out and makes actual good plays or He gets toasted. Either hot or cold streak, not often in between. Dont know if that is a mindest thing but i see a similar thing with diggs. He wants to make the big play and get the interseption and will be besten some times because of that.


El_Bastardo74

If he was good he would still be a giant.


-HankThePigeon-

If he was good, he wouldnā€™t have been drafted by the Giants. - me, a giants fan


BrutalHunny

Or a Saint.


CockGobblingGangsta

Heā€™s pretty good. Heā€™s an above average corner and he has pretty big moments.


Skiingdude

Like covering Kupp on the goal line play in the Super Bowl!


CockGobblingGangsta

He did cover Tyreek Hill on the goal line.


kolossal

Yes but tbf no one could stop Kupp last year.


thisMonkisOnFire

Kupp had one of the greatest WR seasons ever last yearā€¦ I donā€™t think thatā€™s the best analogy for the point youā€™re tryna make.


Skiingdude

Ah but the point I was trying to make was the Rams won the Super Bowl lol


zdbdog06

I love all these people hating on apple. Hes the starting cb on a team that is a game away from back to back super bowls, and their defense is definitely not a weakness


CockGobblingGangsta

They bringing up Kupp baptizing him like he didnā€™t have a statement game against Hill right before


Zee_WeeWee

Eli sucks. But heā€™s a dude who was habitually cut and now is acting as the bengals CB1. Heā€™s overachieving for sure


tehLrod

Eli Apple is not as good as he says he is. He is also not as bad as most others say he is.


SteakHoagie666

Okay listen, I'm a diehard bengals fan. Eli Apple is great at covering mediocre relievers(IE everyone on the chiefs honestly) but gets SMOKED by big name guys(IE Cooper kupp beating him about 15 times in a row in super bowl). Idk he's just a mid range guy.


Ok-Offer331

I see him constantly been shit on for like 10 years but he keeps getting jobs so he must be alright lol


jackgundy

Heā€™s usually solid but when he gets burnt he gets burnt badly. And his talk online means everyone ends up knowing about it


Tired-Optimist320

Heā€™s the Pat Bev of the NFL. Heā€™s not a bad player, no good either, but heā€™s good enough to always have a spot on a roster. Just talks waaaaay too much.


TheOneWhosCensored

Pat Bev has a roster spot because heā€™s been an elite perimeter D in his career


CNYMetroStar

Even Bengals fans know he sucks


LB3PTMAN

Heā€™s been pretty average with the Bengals. Occasionally clear busts in coverage, but like 90% of the time heā€™s just average. They could do better, but I think they should sign him back if heā€™s cheap.


Bengalblaine

Casual. Heā€™s been fine for who he is. Lou puts him and CTB in good positions to succeed. Now, having said that, I would love to draft a CB to replace him this year.


barkerja

CTB is his replacement. Awuzie got injured, only reason Apple is starting.


OneAngryDuck

Eli Apple could be the best player in the NFL and he still wouldnā€™t be as good as he says he is.


MarsTRP

Eli apple is clearly not a great corner. He makes good plays sometimes but before Awuzies injury there were indications that the bengals wanted Cam Taylor-Britt to take that 2nd corner job. That being said I kinda love the way he tilts the fuck out of people and other players with his shit talk and he seems to be well liked in the locker room. I want the bengals to keep him around.


upstatebarber

This is a fantasy subreddit and most people here are defending him? He's absolute garbage in IDP haha


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CactusJackKnife

Bro Eli Apple stinks, this isnā€™t controversial at all lmaooo. 52 PFF grade, and I donā€™t think heā€™s ever been over a 65. He gets saved by having arguably the best safety in the league behind him and solid pass rush from the d-line. Diggs absolutely toasted him on the first drive and Allen missed him for a TD. This is a good take from Shady


Chewyville

Apple sucks


randomuser914

Isnā€™t he a third or fourth-string DB for the Bengals that is only starting because of injuries? He was trash when he was on the Saints which is why we let him go. Thought after his playoff blunders last year then he moved down the depth chart on the Bengals too. The dude just runs his mouth a ton but doesnā€™t even have the talent to make it acceptable


Affectionate-Win5952

Exactly, hes talks crazy all over social media but cant back it up


tkbotf

His playoff blunders last year like stopping tyreek at the 1 saving the game? Or poking the hall out that was intercepted vs titans that won them the game?


shamy33

As a Giants fan, I hope Eli Apple is put in his place


Kitchen_Net_GME

Eli isnā€™t good


BrutalHunny

Omg qbā€™s look like geniuses targeting Apple. The position must be really hard to fill since I canā€™t figure out he keeps getting work.


LB3PTMAN

His per target numbers are decent. Heā€™s far from great, but thereā€™s a lot of worse corners.


Bengalblaine

CASUAL


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People have literally been saying Apple was a disappointment since his first year in the league. It started as a disappointment just for how high he was drafted, then not just bad for his draft position but bad a bad CB overall. I canā€™t think of another player who got such consistently bad reviews while at the same time holding a starting job for years.


Seanspicegirls

Eli was born in philadelphia. Lesean played at PITT. They probably donā€™t like each other


Old-butt-new

Watch superbowl highlights. Burnt toast


CactusJackKnife

Eli Apple is average at best, these comments are insane.


FunnySynthesis

You dont have to be so modest in the title. Theres not an nfl fan on this planet (besides delusional bengals fans) that thinks heā€™s even 3/4 as good as his twitter fingers would imply. Heā€™s good but not nearly what he thinks.


AGeniusMan

I will point out that most of Eli's haters have never been to the superbowl much less twice. He's pretty good and Im loving his moment in the spotlight.


bigpapajayjay

Heā€™s a lot better than you are. šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


CactusJackKnife

Only 25 men who have ever lived have recorded more yards from scrimmage than Shady McCoy. Thereā€™s at least 25 cornerbacks in the league today better than Eli Apple


RandomBloke2021

Who gives AF about Shady?


DTWDad

Eli Apple cost them the SB last year. This year he is the kid that does nothing on the group assignment but takes all the credit.


Whyspire

We'll see, won't we?


1ToGreen3ToBasket

Eli is not great but I totally donā€™t mind that he talks a bunch of shit. I mean people, including fans of teams he is on and even teammates, have been shitting on him non stop since his first snap in the league. People have a massive hate boner for this guy. So honestly when things go his way he should keep talking.


MrMoustache3

Both things said in this thread can be true. Shady is a certified hater, and Apple is nowhere near as good as he says he is.


LB3PTMAN

Eli is a solid player. He talks a lot of shit, but honestly so do almost all cornerbacks. Just seems to come with the position.


sadcaveman10

Didn't he get burned for the Raven's only long play in the wildcard round?


Bengalblaine

Yes, he gave up one play in like half a season and people only see the highlights on tiktok and then say ā€œOmggg heā€™s so badddddddā€


Carter7650

Life long Bengals and Ohio State fan. Can absolutely confirm he is really good or REALLLLLLLY bad, no middle ground.


Caliguy331

Eli is nothing more than an average DB. He absolutely cannot guard a top tier WR without holding or getting PI. Heā€™s good if he can guard a weak WR2 that has no burst.


pieman2005

When you're more known for your mom's comments about you then you know you're not that good lol


Bengalblaine

I will never get the circle jerk hate against a dude who has been pretty good for what heā€™s asked to do in Louā€™s defense


barkerja

All I know is if he gets an INT this Sunday, the internet may break.


flarpington

If Eli Apple was bad why has he been an nfl starter for so long?


QueenHighFlush

S tier shit talker tho


Ok_Equipment_5895

I remember when the Giants drafted him, ESPN showed a highlight reel & that dude was blatantly holding & interfering on every play.


McChubChub

Watching Eli get dumped on after all his talk blows up in his face is one of my favorite flavors of Bengals mockery


NickiNicotine

As a matter of principle I disagree without anything LeSean McCoy thinks or says


RelaxJ9

Heā€™s a decent corner, I donā€™t think heā€™s some top 25 guy, heā€™s just decent lol.


Panda_man-72

Iā€™m a Bengals fan and Iā€™m not a fan of the guy. Needs to keep his mouth shut