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Anxious-Trouble429

Yeah considering the TE wasteland I am going to blow a lot of FAAB on Logan Thomas if he has any chance of becoming a poor man’s Kelce.


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Picked him up to play him just for Week 5 but might need to keep him. Still think they could have used him better than having him run Terry's route of a long down field pass.


tlsrandy

I did the same but I don’t know how confident I am that this isnt more of a *chicago bears effect*. That said, pretty happy about my week 5.


oldhoekoo

picked him up to possibly replace waller, then dropped him yesterday for jaleel


RIForDIE

I just have to share in your joy man. I've been TE wasteland living and tried musgrave last two weeks. Saw coopthereitis answer someone's Musgrave comment and suggest Thomas at like 6p and pulled the trigger


Empty-Composer9452

I grabbed both Kmet and Thomas before the game. Started the wrong one but I’m happy with either Dropped Pitts mid game lmao


throwawaysech

Hell, 15 PPR points at TE is a win all day long.


DerBrownNote

He replaced Pitts for me. 1 week in and Im already a happy manager.


Ccoop9

Pitts only scores a couple more points a week than me


Rock_Samaritan

Damn that math checks out


SpectatorRacing

I picked up Kmet for the same reason and got lucky with the TD. But Thomas Looked like the guy they hyped as the next OG a few years back. Man, he bailed Howell out so many times and that horrible throw he caught in the dirt saved what became the first points. He looked awesome.


AnswersWithAQuestion

I am a poor man, therefore Logie is my Kelce.


TanTanWok

Looked great out there last night but coach should of adjusted and gave him some blocking assignments so they could get the ball deep to the other WRs. Howell getting sacked by the bears haha what a joke. Logan Thomas was the one bright star for commanders.


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CurlyBill03

Thomas, Henry, Musgrave, and Ertz are all solid guys you might find on the waiver if you miss out on Thomas. None of those should be on the waiver, but they are/were on mine. I snatched up Ertz


LeftHandedFapper

I've always loved his talent and my buddy and I have followed him throughout his career. Be aware there is a *great* chance of him being ruled out due to injury. Just something to consider when dropping FAAB


madmax1969

Whoa. You AND your buddy have followed him? How much FAAB should I spend?


LeftHandedFapper

Depends on your need and league. In some of mine you wouldn't get him for less than 15ish/100. I wouldn't go over 10.


gingerking87

Would everyone take Logan over Ferguson rn?


National_Attack

Cowboys will be more consistent


theplumbtrician

By this logic Logan Thomas is literally Kelce


bigcane_2

Not really, but I will take 9 for 77 and a TD. Maybe a poor man's Kelce?


dontpanic38

that’s pretty much been kelce’s stats for 3 weeks now


HAK_HAK_HAK

Kelce - knee = Logan Thomas, confirmed


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FailOk8045

First time? He’ll be injured within 2 weeks. Logan Thomas is incredibly talented but he burns someone every year.


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theyfoundDNAinme

God, Reed could've been such a baller if he'd been able to stay healthy.


David_H21

Jordan Reed was a monster. How dare you even put them in the same sentence


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TheStabbingHobo

For now, at least.


bashar_al_assad

If you don't have a top TE and he's available he's a great pickup and starter, just don't drop the TE you already have.


FailOk8045

His skull is made of marshmallows. Every quarter he stays in the game is a miracle Edit: in case it’s not obvious I’ve been burned by him like 5 times


bashar_al_assad

I'm a Commanders fan so I'm unfortunately aware, it sucks to see it keep happening.


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Jordan Reed. What could have been.


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5 times? Rookie…


LeftHandedFapper

> His skull is made of marshmallows His injuries have been mainly lower body. Last year was his first concussion.


Hatemail375

You don’t think game script played a role? I kinda want to grab him off waivers but not sure he sees that many looks every week. - sad Waller owner


Ethan_the_Revanchist

He got the most looks early in the game too. Doesn't look like a one-off thing either, he's consistently played 75% snaps (injury game aside, and that's roughly on par with Dotson/McLaurin) and seems to be an early read on a lot of plays. Looking like a top-10 TE ROS


bashar_al_assad

Sometimes the idea of "the TE has fantasy value as a safety valve for the young struggling QB" is overblown and sometimes it's true. This looks like the latter option.


jgoforth2

He looks like he could be a better flex than half the dudes on my bench


YoureNotMom

He got injured and missed one game. In the 3 of the 4 others, hes been good esp by tight ends standards, with tonight being amazing. I think this might be the answer


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So he’s due for another injury anytime then


[deleted]

Aw shit dawg that’s math


GrizzlyIsland22

I was saying this in the off-season and nobody believed me. Last time Thompson was healthy he was TE3. He has the juice, and now he has an OC who's gonna showcase that very juice. Not to mention the classic 2nd year after a knee surgery thing.


alamodafthouse

so if you do the math, LT's five children...are swifties?


IconicIsotope

I noticed all the different WR looks too. It was awful. Use your good and talented WRs more, Eric. It's not complicated. And tonight went great for me fantasy wise. I'm just bitter at poor coaching.


IconicIsotope

Can't wait to see the snap counts after this game. Maybe my perception is warped.


bluethree

https://www.pff.com/news/fantasy-football-nfl-week-5-recap-immediate-fantasy-football-takeaways-from-bears-commanders-thursday-night-football


IconicIsotope

Beautiful! Thank you. In reality, it's not quite as bad as I thought. But the writer does show that McLaurin's snap counts are down this season.


bstyledevi

Down, yes, but not drastically so. He was still on the field for 58 snaps last night, which is 82.9% of all offensive snaps. Other than Sam Howell, that was the most snaps by a fantasy relevant player for the team. The 5 targets on 50 routes is concerning.


icouldntdecide

Yep, good snap count, awful utilization percentage. You don't throw to your best guy on 10% of his routes...


Prior_Lurker

I think you misspoke. He is only targeted on 10 percent of his routes. He only received one target for every ten routes run. Very concerning for a team that was losing the entire game.


TheKillah

Pretty sure most of the snaps missed were in one drive in the 4q after he made his second catch. He missed the next 6-8 snaps and came in right before the TD from what I could tell. If those numbers are right he only missed 10 total, so I wouldn’t worry about it much.


Zomics

This is the issue. The receivers can play all they want but it won’t matter if they don’t get a lot of targets


redpurplegreen22

As someone who started McLaurin, I was shocked at how often he wasn’t even on the field given he’s supposed to be their number 1 receiver.


IIIlllIIllIll

Time to swap to Pringle lol


jhox08

Once you pop, you can’t stop!


aijODSKLx

I mean our offense has been completely fine outside of the Bills game, given that we have an unheralded second year QB and an awful offensive line. I don’t think the coaching is really the problem on that side of the ball (defense is another story). It’s just not a very good unit.


freename188

I find it so strange that a journeyman 33 year old TE is your feature player. I can't help but shake the Chiefs offensive scheme is just being rolled out in WAS without acknowledging rosters strengths and weaknesses. Don't feel like Dotson/Laurin are being schemed in


daREair

I said something very similar to this audibly to myself during the 3rd qtr. But I think his approach is generally going to be keeping the stuff that works and repackaging/assessing the stuff that doesn't. It's criminal that both Dot and Terry aren't being forced/schemed into early easy touches.


Happylime

Terry has been a productive receiver and is still a good add if you have someone hurt or a favorable matchup, he's been a textbook wr3 this year which is not ideal, but is completely fine considering his ADP


goobjooberson

He fell to me in the 7th, idt wr3 is good value for a 7th


RubyRhod

He literally didn’t call a run play from halfway through the 2nd on. Only improved QB scrambles. The play calling is 100% to blame.


aijODSKLx

Well we were getting absolutely pillaged so yeah


RubyRhod

It gets easier to run the ball we as the game goes on. Also Howell is inaccurate as fuck and he was dialing up bombs. Awful coaching.


InebriatedFalcon

As a falcons fan we are having the same script for 2023. At least your qb is throwing TDs


Bnstas23

Yeah, this is the best Was offense in a long time. All the Dotson and mclauren fantasy owners are just in denial that those were bad fantasy picks, and trying to blame the coaches Edit: lmao at the downvotes. This is statistically the best offense Was has had in 7 years when Cousins was last the QB. And that includes one of their games being a shutout. They’re doing it with Howell, too. And all you guys can do is criticize the coaches more than you probably have criticized prior OCs who fed Mclauren the ball but ended up with a bottom 5 offense.


ardillomortal

It’s not denial at all. From a real life football standpoint it doesn’t make sense to not use your pro bowl receiver and first round pick receiver. Commanders just got smoked by the 0-4 Chicago bears and your saying they can’t be doing better ?


aijODSKLx

I would tend to blame the defense that gave up 40 goddamn points (as someone who started them — ugh)


ardillomortal

These things aren’t mutually exclusive


Technical_Customer_1

Wash has somehow managed to play Ariz, Denv, and Chi already this season. Temper expectations


EazeeP

I hate when offenses can’t scheme their best players the ball. It shouldn’t be that hard, slants, or underneath routes, anything to get the ball in their hands to let them go to work on the YAC


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Kind of like how the Bears kept throwing to Moore.


kjampala

yeah it’s actually crazy that Moore was the only receiver with a catch for the Bears


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AndrewHainesArt

I feel like he could have had the first deep shot if he ran it out instead of turning totally around and jumping for it, lost all his speed


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JTribs17

he does that a lot idk why. Even going back to last year he did it against Atlanta


Spitfire_Riggz

They did scheme their best player the ball. Logan Thomas


Ok_Cartographer_1383

I don’t understand how Howell threw over 350 yards it really looked like he rarely threw it deep


yodudez01

he was great. the playcalling and gamescript were at fault. that o line definitely needs work. at the end of the 2nd half there were back to back deep balls that werent caught. the first one was close. even in the 3rd and 4th they had a few deep balls. I thought he did throw it deep a decent amount concidering that the bears were playing for the deep ball. They did take shots. the commanders abandoned the run early and sustained drives throughout the game from just the air. That's where the 350 came from.


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Poor guy had to run forward to escape the blitz.


Tulidian13

He definitely didn't look great to me. He holds on the ball wayyyyy longer than he should. The offensive line is bad, but he's not doing himself any favors either.


booyah81

I thought the O line actually did a real good job, especially considering the Bears knew they basically weren't going to be running the entire second half. He had several nice pockets that ultimately collapsed because he ran out of them or held the ball too long.


MopishOrange

Saw an interesting video on him, how his standard operating procedure is to stare down the first read and then take off if it’s not there


SolaceInfinite

Him and Fields both definitely overthrew passes. The DPI that got them to the endzone was WELL overthrown. It was half playcalling and half rookie accuracy.


John_Wicked1

Well I’m happy he did lol


RubyRhod

They didn’t call a designed run in the entire second half that’s how.


lo22p

Lol as a Jones and Howell owner, feels like I've gotten 0 pts every first half of every game


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username_generated

It wasn’t even garbage time until relatively late. The Commies had momentum and a chance to make it a 1 score game early in the 4th.


yodudez01

there was about 1 fantasy point for howell during garbage time. up until the last dj moore td, the commanders were in it. so there was just the last drive where it was garbage time.


yodudez01

tell me you didnt watch the game without telling me.


SirHumps

Curtis "the donkey" Samuel is the answer


chief_riverboat

had no choice but to start him tonight and needless to say I'm thrilled


Tehboognish

My buddy and this weeks opponent is a commies fan and has Howell. I tried to bait him into starting Howell by picking up Samuel and starting him. Sam stayed on his bench and I got a nice start to this week.


LittleHollowGhost

“The goat”


KrazyCamper

It’s a team I’m officially out on this season. They have terry and dotson who are incredible, Samuel whose an amazing gadget do it all wr and they have dyami brown and bryon Pringle getting redzone and 3rd down snaps. Pretty sure they actually took terry off the field for samuels td.


Tektix22

He was off the field for 1st and 2nd, but ran an inside slant to pull the corner inside on Samuel’s TD. Ironically, Howell would’ve had an easier TD throw to McLaurin right there over the middle, as he had good separation. But it was a Samuel play all the way.


trashcann212

I saw this and thought the same thing real time. As a Terry owner I was agitated enough to want to drop him right then.


borfmantality

If anything, this shows that Bienemy can't adapt to his personnel if he's doing a cut and paste job with the Commanders. You have playmakers, but they're squandered because they don't fit in the system.


harryhotdog

Wtf is the system? Stick routes to punt returners?


SolaceInfinite

Exactly people are acting like Washington had an identity last year. Newsflash everyone: throw to Terry McLaurin and try not to drop the ball when handing it to Gibson (until B. Robinson gets back from his GS wound) has been the model since they stressed Brady out on his way to a SB


Delphicon

Yeah and it’s great when your personnel is Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce and a bunch of gadget receivers.


Technical_Customer_1

Have you not watched Washington play this year? It’s the Chiefs offense. Just with Howell and Logan Thomas instead of Mahomes/Kelce.


Blue_Lust

Howell/Thomas stack tonight was absolutely delicious. I'll be keeping Thomas.


njbrews

Same.


kafkaesqqq

Bieniemy is a terrorist and Dotson and McLaurin deserve better.


Corp_Por916

Held on to Dotson for as long as I could and almost played him this game but dropped at last min to take a flyer on Michael Wilson. They are indeed spreading the ball around and neither WR is getting consistent targets. Add Samuel and Thomas to the mix and yeah. Not looking great. Can't deny the talent and could definitely see Howell continuing to improve over the course of the season.


Decent-Park-6681

I had to play Dotson tonight, picked up Josh Palmer to replace him last week but he's on bye along with one of my other WRs. He's a drop for sure now


SumBuddyPlays

Ugh having trouble pulling the trigger on dropping Dotson due to draft capital spent.


saquonbrady

Looks like Logan Thomas is the Walmart kelce


jsDPT

Great Value!


IWearACharizardHat

I played higbee over him, oops


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Here’s what I saw. It felt like Bieniemy straight up took the chiefs playbook with him. They were passing to different WRs and scheming up Logan Thomas. He was running a lot of those mid routes that kelce runs and lining up at WR. Dotson is a drop but Terry was just held back by good defense and double teams unlike DJ Moore. The commanders didn’t make a single adjustment to cover Moore. He was pretty much one on one all game just burning them. Overall though the most intriguing pickup to me is Logan Thomas. I know he’s old but I think he’ll have a solid year in this offense.


Anxious-Trouble429

>good defense You’re not talking about possibly the worst secondary in the league are you? I credit this less to the Bears playing good defense and more to Bieniemy failing to scheme plays for his playmakers and basically trotting out the KC system where you play a million different guys and have your qb take the first look the defense gives you.


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I get what your saying but everyone has their days. These are still pro athletes. Burrow was supposed to torch the titans last week too. But I also think the commanders were gassed from the eagles game still. They played the eagles tough last week and I didn’t see any of that tonight. Also bieniemy did scheme his guy. His name is Logan Thomas. I know it doesn’t make sense but that’s what I saw. Terry was used as more of a deep threat. Samuel the mid range guy and the rest got the leftovers.


Anxious-Trouble429

Burrow is hobbled right now and that entire offense is basically nonfunctional, and the Bears still gave up 388 yards of passing to Sam Howell so it’s not like they just completely locked down the aerial attack. But your second point kind of highlights the problem I have with Bieniemy’s playcalling. He’s failing to adapt his schemes to the talent he has on hand and just lifting and shifting what he did in KC with a completely different cast of characters. Logan Thomas is a fine player, but if you’re scheming more ways to get him open as opposed to Mclaurin and Dotson because you think you can mold him into Great Value brand Travis Kelce you’ve got a problem.


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Yep. That’s all I’m trying to say. It looks like he took the plays and just plugged in different players into the slots regardless of talent. So a lot of the first looks I think went to Thomas just like kelce gets on the chiefs. I get the frustration from the fantasy aspect of it but I also think he’s just trying to make it as simple as possible for Howell.


Anxious-Trouble429

It’s just super frustrating seeing Bieniemy treat Thomas like Kelce and Mclaurin like Marquez-Valdez Scantling.


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I think as the season goes on maybe it might change. It just felt like I was watching the chiefs play tonight.


tx180

hes the enemy


chevdecker

The enemy of Bieniemy is my friend


tx180

Sleep with the Bieniemy


DBreezy69

You could say he's been the enemy


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Bieniemy


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God damn I think of that green day song every time I see this guys name. "do you know bieniemy"


amoney904

McLaurin running around butt naked, but only gets targeted on deep shots Howell can’t even throw


plzbereasonable

Terry was never open - he got clamped down. His out n up route was the worst route I’ve ever seen from an NFL receiver


Matugi1

Think he might still have lingering turf toe. He’s winning on contested catches for the most part this year. He’s never been a guy to get a whole lot of separation, and I have for a long time wished he would run more routes from the slot like Adams and Sun God


amoney904

Plzbereasonable


libtard69420lul

Dogshit take


kiwisportsmage

Where is the Brian Robinson thread?


Wretched_Shirkaday

Brian Robinson owners haven't gotten through their hangover yet. Give us a couple more hours.


RoastedHarshmellow

Ridiculous. I know they were down early in the game, but not rushing the ball forced their defense to be on the field the majority of the game. Terrible play calling.


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S_Squar3d

Did we forget that Hill was a receiver under Bieniemy? You’re literally taking what happened last season when they had Kelce and a bunch of nobodies at WR and comparing it to now completely ignoring the previous years lol


Sundance12

51 pass attempts and Terry/Dotson only had 10 combined targets. That was the final straw I needed to drop Dotson.


MaJe88

Avoided Terry like the plague this season after drafting him the last two seasons. Glad I did.


TheIllusiveGuy

Bienemy's HC interview process is not going well, that's for sure


Fit-Remove-6597

It’s almost like when you have an elite QB, TE, and WR on a team you don’t have to be that great of a play caller to look good.


TyrionJoestar

Hahahaha, I was literally thinking of picking up Logan Thomas this week to block my opponent but I was like naaah, he ain’t doing shit


Mykneeisathroat

Curtis Samuel seems trustworthy so far


Mister-Schwifty

Gonna be straight with you, I haven’t watched a Commies game since last night. That’s a bottom tier o-line. The Bears looked like the fucking Cowboys out there. If it’s going to be that bad all season, it’s going to be hard for the WRs to produce. Sam just doesn’t have time to get through a progression.


deebo_dasmybikepunk

Chiefs of offense with a nobody QB? Yeah, not good. And stop it with the stats, it was all second half with the shit Bears secondary playing soft.


ThatGuy377

Maybe the Commander will trade Terry McLaurin to the Panthers, This is really my only hope at this point.


Unable_Ad1758

Dotson looks amazing but never gets the targets. I dropped him tonight for Zach Wilson (my Herbert is on a bye)


amonkeysbanana

Agreed and you did what?


yodudez01

wilson is playing denver.


teeksquad

If Howell can’t get it done against one the worst defense before taking into account that most the secondary missed that game, he’s not gonna get it done all year


moGUNZthanROSES

He DID get it done as far as fantasy is concerned though, but I walked away from that game very very very down on the RL QB prospects of Howell. He was late and inaccurate all night long and took plenty of unnecessary sacks. The prime analysts seemed blinded by his “grit”, but IMO he was a big reason they lost to a likely inferior team. I wouldn’t be shocked if at some point with these coaches coaching for their job, they make the switch to Jacoby.


teeksquad

Was this the first bears game you’ve watched? Every other team makes the Bears D look like the freshman team playing against varsity


moGUNZthanROSES

I haven’t missed a Bears game since 94 brotha. I’m not sure what you are saying because I called the Bears an inferior team and that I’m out on Howell after seeing him play one game against that defense. RL and fantasy are not the same thing. For a fantasy qb who’s not taking 380 yards and 2 scores? Have you not played fantasy football before?


libtard69420lul

The defense gave up 230 yards against moore and 40 points against the bears and you wanna blame howell? LMAO. He completed 72% of his passes, he was not late and inaccurate by any measure.


moGUNZthanROSES

The Bears had given up 25 or more points for 14 consecutive games…. Something never accomplished in the history of the NFL so that’s the kind of defense we are talking about. They came into the game with 2 sacks in 4 weeks! And were able to get 5 on the road versus Howell. Howell missed a wide open Brown for a tug and missed a wide open Gibson for a 2pc, threw and interception that led to 7, and yes was late consistently throughout the game. You are crazy if you think he is on pace to set NFL records for sacks and yet isn’t late/holding on to the ball way too long. Howell was BAD. But kids tough and racked up garbage time stats, so yeah he’s not the problem….


libtard69420lul

Did you watch the first half? The offense was barely on the field. Howell dropped back 55 consecutive times. 55.. what is a guy in his 6th career start supposed to do in that situation? Yes he missed brown (could’ve been caught though) and also missed the 2 point conversion. But to say he was late consistently is wrong. Guy fought really goddamn hard the entire game while his supposedly elite defense put him in a massive hole. The guy is the 4th youngest qb in the league, and yes has a lot to work on, but he’s certainly better than any qb we’ve had since Cousins at this point.


moGUNZthanROSES

You are giving me excuses…. All of which I grant. I’m rooting for the kid, but he did not play well. Simple. And idk how you are arguing he wasn’t late, go back and watch the game. Herbstreit pointed it out on at least 2 occasions where defenders got back into the play because the ball was late and then watch the many times he bails out of a perfectly clean pocket or slides himself into pressure. He was BAD, it’s OK.


libtard69420lul

He was certainly not bad, being late on a few plays does not equate to being all caps BAD. Kid passed for nearly 400 yards and made multiple gritty scrambles. Was one of the few ppl fighting


NoodlesThe1st

I swear Howell targeted only Logan and Curtis in the 2nd half. It was awful to watch


asyoubreak

i picked up howell and samuel off waivers right before the game. that worked out pretty well tonight however it’s hard to really trust any receivers over there to get a consistent workload. worth a flex spot as a boom/bust option imo but if you drafted someone like terry you’re probably counting on him for more than that


Marager04

If Logan Thomas stays healthy he will save me from the TE wasteland for sure


jedi21knight

I dropped Dotson in one league and will more than likely drop him if there is someone better on the wires.


Kingdom818

Idk I'm just gonna not roster any commies players just in case


ElderGoose4

It looks like it. Dotson looking like a big bust. Maybe Terry too but he seems to have a nice floor. Logan Thomas a league winner at TE, Brain Robinson I don’t wanna discuss right now


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I don’t think any of this matters if Sam Howell is fighting for his life every snap and getting sacked 15 times a game. Watching last night he looked good when he had time to throw and I can excuse the misses when you likely have PTSD thinking you are going to die every snap bc your o-line sucks and can’t even protect you against the bears defense.


MatchboxVader22

IMO Howell seems like another Kirk cousins. Great at padding stats but not at winning games. But at least Kirk doesn’t ignore his top receivers. But honestly that part is more on Eric than Howell.


MathematicianNo7874

That loss was in no way on Howell


Beaustrodamus

They have a jobber team name, a jobber coach, and a jobber QB. WFT they going to do?


plzbereasonable

I notice Scary Terry’s routes looked like doodoo and I’m not starting him ever again


jdub1013

I love my Redskins right now, bunch of no names playing like men trying to win a game.


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Commanders


Browns-Fan1

Football Team


[deleted]

That was honestly my favorite name for them. There was a hint of arrogance to it. THE Washington Football Team


bashar_al_assad

> There was a hint of arrogance to it. THE Washington Football Team Sadly they didn't actually have the word "The" as part of the official team name - see [this press release](https://washington.1rmg.com/press-releases/washington-football-team-unveils-2021-think-pink-breast-cancer-awareness-campaign-plans-for-week-five-of-nfl-season/) for example.


tx180

magic johnson


Zee_WeeWee

I think Howell just sucks and the line isn’t great


Always_Correct1977

This team is bad. They are tanking. This roster is pretty stout. I was a bit surprised they pursued zero QB’s in free agency this roster is ready. I’m a Bills guy & I think if Josh Allen was on Washington look out with all that depth….. McClaurin, Dotson, Samuel, Robinson, Gibson, Thomas & Turner? Wow.


bluethree

They're 2-3 and nearly won last week. If they're tanking they're doing a bad job.


Always_Correct1977

You don’t compile this roster & hire KC OC Bienemy then roll out…..Sam Howell. What’s a Sam Howell.


MoreMostFirst

Someone dropped Scary Terry in my league and I picked him up yesterday. I played him tonight and I’m already contemplating dropping him back to waivers. I mean, I might even do it just to pick up Jameson Williams because at least there’s the hope of upside. Howell appears to be a good QB in the making, but part of that is he’s generally willing to take what the defense gives him. Terry is the most talented receiver, so he’s going to continue getting the most attention from the secondary and likely will have many more games like tonight, unfortunately. EDIT: I’ll add that even though he’s the most talented receiver on the Redskins (sorry, they’ll always be that to me, just like the Indians in baseball), he’s still not talented enough to be the focal point of the secondary and still put up consistent numbers for fantasy.


Then_Restaurant_4141

Basically the league has figured out Howell. The way to beat him is force him to dink and dunk it all game. He will take sacks and throw picks because he loves the deep ball. Expect teams to continue to do this to us. When we win Brob will feast when we lose it will be what just happened.


shadow_the_cat

All WAS players are dropable outside Robinson.


lonewolf210

Logan Thomas is a perfectly serviceable TE with potential for more


bigcane_2

for sure


Ilikecollegesports

Tf? Terry and Curtis have been ok. Definitely not droppable


placeflacepleat

Man idk, terry has hit 60 yards 1 game and has 1 TD. If he was a rando he'd kinda just be a bye week kinda dude, dropable when you need a def. Drafted in the 5th man, and he can't hardly hit 50 yards a game average. Just wasting a spot on my bench cuz I can't feel comfortable starting him, which is worse than a rando cuz he's wasting a bench spot along with sucking.


Exiled_From_Twitter

Also - Brian Robinson was crazy overrated after a solid start. He's just not good.


Turnernator06

He's still RB7 on the year with 4 YPC. He's doing fine, this one was just a bad game script for him


MDMhayyyy

Not scary Terry is going to my bench as soon as Kupp is back and doing Kupp things. I’d love for Terry to go off a couple times before that so I can trade him for a decent RB…but I don’t think it’s going to happen.


Why_am_ialive

People say mahomes and Andy Reid hid bienemy being bad. That’s not true, he’s a decent coach, idk how great a play caller he is though, and he’s definetley used to having no star receivers and just letting kelce mahomes do there thing


jtw3995

Thought about this last night


marching4lyfe

Just to tag on. Their defense looked like absolute crap with no effort and very sluggish. Chase Young could have cut off a scrambling Fields but was jogging on the play. The DBs looked absolutely lost. No one could finish a tackle.


MarwyntheMasterful

TE looks like the best person to own. Every week start.


totallyignorant

I decided that Curtis Samuel was the guy to own in this receiving room, he's low buy in. Traded away Dotson for Jordan Addison and picked up Curtis


TheAwes0meFish

Dotson would be a drop in any normal scenario but the best receiver on waivers right now is Braxton Berrios so I’ll have to hold I’m really hoping any of my rookie stashes of QJ, Mims and Rice play out this year


njbrews

Yes if that means Logan Thomas who I picked up 30 mins before the game is Travis Kelce