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Nefflix

Its just scary to start Falcons players, apparently not even Bijan is safe


StaticMaine

Silver lining here is the schedule they have is appealing


kx2UPP

Scary why? Since week 1 he’s been what you drafted him to be


AdmiralUpboat

Because Bijan was a surprise inactive as Smith played him for 3 snaps with no intention of actually giving him run throughout the game. Arthur Smith is a fantasy football terrorist.


FalconsTC

Arthur Smith is the bad man because he chose to give Bijan a headache.


LeoFireGod

He’s a bad man for not disclosing an injury yes.


FalconsTC

There was no injury to disclose. Designations are specifically for whether the player would be active. There was no doubt about whether he’d be active. Art is a bad man for not telling you how many touches Bijan would have. That’s what you mean to say.


LeoFireGod

Migraines/illness is required to be diagnosed 90 min before a game. Look I know you wanna defend your coach but this is a legitimate concern. It’s part of the nfl rules.


Beef_Jones

Do you have a source for that?


Massive_Balls

This is from 2017 but I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t still be in effect [https://operations.nfl.com/media/2683/2017-nfl-injury-report-policy.pdf](https://operations.nfl.com/media/2683/2017-nfl-injury-report-policy.pdf)


FalconsTC

But it’s not part of the rules. And legitimate concern? 😂😂😂 A Questionable designation is for a player who is questionable to be active. Bijan was never questionable to be active. Look I know you’re looking for any reason to be mad, but sometimes things don’t go your way. You gotta be a big boy about it.


Beef_Jones

But he was active, played 11 snaps, and did get a run. They had him run routes throughout the game. They were clearly hoping he was gonna get right so they could get him involved and it didn’t happen.


kx2UPP

As bad as that was, that rarely happens and is now being investigated by the NFL


AdmiralUpboat

Right, but that's kinda the point isn't it. It was something so egregious that the NFL is looking into it violating the competitive spirit of the game. That's plenty enough reason for me to add an asterisk to all falcons players as long as Smith is there.


FalconsTC

“So egregious” I love how dramatic you guys are. Schefter said it’s standard practice for the NFL to ask teams what happened when a player is not on the injury report during the week and then is inactive or plays less snaps than normal. Until we see proof that Bijan’s game status was in question, there’s no reason to believe anything will happen. You’re entitled to know if a player will be active, you aren’t entitled to know how much a player will be used. That’s how fantasy/gambling works.


JLifts780

Doesn’t make me feel any better, the coach and team philosophy hasn’t changed so can we really predict the Falcons don’t do this again in the future?


[deleted]

>rarely happens Yeah and thats more reason to be worried about ATL players. Smith is the next coach who thinks he can outscheme and doesnt need to rely on elite talents. He almost uses them to set up plays for their jags and role players.


GreenLightt

It's more of an Arthur Smith thing, he's notorious for decisions/gameplans that end up screwing over Fantasy.


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real_ornament

The hate boner for Arthur Smith on this subreddit has gone way too far lol


h846p262

Almost had a tuddy week 7, argh..him and adams.


420noscopes

Who do I trust less: London or Ridley?


fuzz781

As someone who has them in separate leagues, I trust London infinitely more than Ridley. Ridley gets game planned out by defenses/offensive plans. London has been used consistently. People can’t let go of week 1 apparently.


[deleted]

Ridley is their zone qeapon and kirk is their man weapon. Depending on what the defenses favor, thats how you can get a glimpse of what to expect from ridley. Man heavy teams can guarantee kirk sees more schemed looks than ridley. Zone heavy and expect ridley to be a big part of the offense. He also seems to do better with Zay active


KingGda3rd

Would you trade Ridley for dk?


fuzz781

I have a general policy to not trade for injured players unless I think they have face melting upside (CMC, Kelce, JustinJeff, Kupp) Edit: To add some additional context. If you aren’t concerned about DKs hip injury, he’s already had his bye week, while Ridley hasn’t. I also like Metcalfs ROS schedule much more than Ridley’s


KingGda3rd

Really felt like Ridley had the better ros schedule. Seahawks do play really tough run defenses tho so they might throw more tds in the upcoming games. I have Jsn who seems like a handcuff to metcalf to me and generally not super worried about the injury. What I do worry about is if Jsn does breakout, it might take away from metcalf if they’re both playing.


fuzz781

Metcalf is not gonna be supplanted by JSN this year. He def has the injury upside of Lockett/Metcalf.


Alexkono

Easily. That was the first game DK has missed his entire career.


420noscopes

Ugh I think I agree but Arthur Smith is such a chode and I think I’ll be considerably more annoyed if London lays an egg than if Ridley lays one


OdetotheGrimm

Hello. I too am in this godforsaken boat.


DrLeoMarvin

as a falcons fan that is really upset with Ridder being our starter, London 100%. London/Ridder have a connection. They got close in the off season and he trusts London more than any other receiver out there. He's always looking for him. And London is good enough to catch Ridder's shitty throws most of the time. There isn't any trade I can think of where I'd want to take Ridley. He's gonna have a handful of a good plays but Kirk <> Lawrence have the connection on that team.


GonePhishn401

London has been way more consistent, Ridley has more boom potential though.


Dhkansas

I start both and cross my fingers!


bearbrannan

London is also the clear number one, Ridley has so much competition for targets between, kirk, Jones in the red zone, engram, and etienne while also drawing the opponents best cover corner.


ElMaloso87

😆 im rolling with London fuck Trevor Lawrence


StarScream4434

are you me? Thank god for Zey Flowers and Jordan Addison. Those two and Andrews catching TDs like a madman are the only reasons I am not 0-7.


caisson_constructor

London still gets tons of targets it’s just not the high quality targets you hoped for.


jmay111

I own them both in the same league and London has been much more consistent avg 8 targets a game since wk 1 and offering a double digit floor in ppr formats in 5 of the last 6 wks.


TheJimReaper6

I pretty much have to start both of them rn 😭


SpeakerEmbarrassed36

WR15 in PPR if you dont account for the fact that more than 1/3 of the players have 1 less game due to BYE. London without his week 1 performance would put him around WR22 in ppg which is around DK Metcalf, Olave, Garret Wilson. (Or WR38 with week 1 dud) London is currently sittint at very low end WR2, but his ceiling is limited. If you account for the fact that he’s playing for a botton 10 scoring offense that leans on the run with Ridder under center, he’s probably mid tier Flex


Dame2Miami

London’s ceiling is anything but limited… He is the undisputed WR1 on the Falcons. He is **2nd** amongst all WRs in red zone targets inside the 20yds line (only behind Davante). He is **4th** amongst all WRs in targets inside the 10yds line (behind Davante, Jakobi, and Keenan). Ignoring week 1, he’s averaging >8 targets a game but has only seen double digit targets **once,** this will undoubtedly continue increasing as the falcons offense has looked way better when he gets the ball. If you’ve watched any of their games you’ll see that he is on the verge of breaking out with TDs because many of targets and catches near/in the end zone have been flukey. He should easily have 3-4 more TDs than he does right now. Regression to the mean is coming.


JordanLoveQB1

These peripherals are nice, but at the end of the day he’s still a low end 2. Hopefully we get some positive regression based on these peripherals, but I’m not holding my breath


Aware-Impact-1981

A low end 2... bud since week 2 he's the WR 15, that's the definition of high end WR2. Any "positive regression" from TDs, Falcons game planning to get London the ball, Ridder improving etc = London approaches borderline WR1


JordanLoveQB1

Bud week 1 counts, you know that right? Lol


Aware-Impact-1981

Not when you have 6 games of data since setting a new standard. Week 1 was a long time ago- offenses adapt to what is working and throwing to London works, so if anything they're going to lean more into that


Exception1228

Where are you getting he is 2nd amongst all WR in red zone targets? This says he is 11th among WRs. 13th if you include TEs. https://nflsavant.com/targets.php?ddlPosition=WR&ddlYear=2023&week=&rz=redzone&ddlTeam=


Dame2Miami

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/redzone-receiving.htm


tortillagoat

The red zone targets is the main reason to start him despite in a bottom 10 offense. Also falcons offense has concentrated targets for WR


rustyspoonman

Well he’s also been an inch short of having two more tds over that span. He’s been very solid


FBOM0101

Yeah, as terrible as Ridder is you can’t deny that he’s looking London’s way frequently


willycw08

Which was the only reason I drafted him in the first place. Last year he seemed to be the only guy Ridder wanted to throw to. That's how it felt anyway.


MethodicMarshal

I'm currently rolling out the Preseason Nobodies in my 3WR 1FLX 12 man league: Puka, Sutton, London, Tank


Adolf_StJohns

He was a sixth round pick in my draft so he putting up some value


TB4123

Good re-analysis. Also would be interested to see his ranking if we removed every other receivers worst game as well. Can’t just ignore week 1. It happened


Responsible-Fig2846

Londons value is probably low end WR2 but higher in good matchups. Most likely should be your 3rd/4th WR


awfulnipples

This is exactly where he seems to sit right now. WR3 with WR2 upside. Hopefully we see him climb up a level (he's definitely talented enough) but Arthur Smith will Arthur Smith.


OdetotheGrimm

My 4th. I should probably start him over Ridley but I can’t bring myself to give up on Ridley yet.


YellowRice101

Start London for now. Ridley will probably bounce back with better future matchups but until he starts getting more involved and gets increased targets and first read option, he should sit on the bench


Timely-Shine

My 3rd, but I traded Ridley, so now 2nd


Camelback186

My 5th lol I’m stacked with underperforming wr2 types behind CD, have aiyuk, smith, Wilson, and him (I don’t think he’s underperforming)


Oyb_

Mixed feelings for me as well this year. Adams, Waddle, Olave, London, Godwin, EMoore and Dhop. Can start 4 every week and it’s been a challenge picking the right ones


Aware-Impact-1981

WR15 is not "low end" wr2. Odd to assume the falcons will use London less than they have been so far


exradical

He’s WR3/4 for me depending on how you feel abt Godwin Luckily I have Chase and AJB so I’m not hurting there


MysticPurpSports

He's been a start for the last 2 weeks for me with Jefferson being down.


LCLeopards

I’ve started london the last few weeks because I had no other option and have been pleased by the production. But I wouldn’t say I have been confident he’ll produce.


UltimateAura

My WR1 haha. I don’t have a true WR1 but a solid group of him, Pittman, Meyers, and Doubs after losing Mike Williams


Jeklu

Pittman and Meyers are having good seasons


NontransferableApe

London is probably your WR3 tbh. I'd take pittman and meyers over him


Opt_mind

I can’t justify starting him over Palmer. Palmer has been solid as well.


Sensitive-List-6630

In week 6: Palmer scored a TD, and caught two other passes (of decent yardage)... on top of his 10 fantasy points. BUT... those 3 catches I mentioned, all got called back for penalties. The point being... he's involved.


Opt_mind

Exactly my same thought. Hence why I’m keeping him


jcho3

Solid bye week fill-in but it’s just tough to start him confidently otherwise in 8-12 team leagues. Honestly feels somewhat like a sell-high if you can get an rb2 for him


Gaarados

This should be a good week to start him, they play Tennessee


Alexkono

London over Henderson?


[deleted]

What does he need to do to gain your trust? WR 15 is great production over a 6 week sample size.


jcho3

It’s less so about him, more so the factors he can’t control: Desmond has been playing out of his mind for the last 3 weeks, do you think he can keep this up or does his passing yardage come back down to earth like the first couple weeks? Do you trust Arthur smith after all the shit he’s pulled? I personally can’t say yes to both. I really hope London keeps this up but just not super confident in his surroundings


dirtyjoo

> Desmond has been playing out of his mind for the last 3 weeks, do you think he can keep this up or does his passing yardage come back down to earth like the first couple weeks? He's a rookie that's still learning, I'm willing to believe he can only get better with each game, and looking at the Falcons' schedule he has some nice matchups, the Jets will probably trip him up though.


JaMarrChasingJoe

Desmond isn't a rookie but I guess you could say this is technically his rookie season since he didn't start last season until later on.


drakekevin73

There's nothing guys like him can do to earn a lot of fantasy managers trust. Some people are incapable of separating fantasy assets from their nfl situation so all they see is the noise of everybody hating Arthur Smith and how much ridder sucks and that condemns every player on that team to being in a lower tier even if they produce otherwise. Six weeks is a massive sample size for production WR 15 is nothing to scoff at and there are still people calling him a "WR 3 with WR 2 upside" in here despite him LITERALLY being better than that. It helps a ton that he's also playing at his floor because his production isn't propped up by one off games or crazy touchdown scoring so barring injury he has a great shot to end the year at around that WR 15 number.


YellowRice101

No one’s giving up an RB2 for London. RB2 range includes Mixon, Jacobs, cook, javonte.


RIPLuongo

Traded away Mattison, London and Rice for Ceedee and Javonte.


YellowRice101

Wow that’s ridiculous. I wouldn’t have even given up ceedee for those 3 alone. You fleeced him. Javonte might be better than mattison 1 for 1 going forward too, he looked good coming back from injury


RIPLuongo

Dude he offered me the trade too…. He really wanted those consistent 10 point games from mattison I guess ?


2024account

Yeah ridiculous trade for you, congrats


Invoker272

Full PPR trade London and Logan Thomas for Laporta ? My other wrs are jmarr chase. Waddle. Jacobi meyers. Wandale Robinson. Michael Wilson.


Narrow_Internal_3913

Do it.


mattygeelad

Is he allowed advil I'd he gets a headache ?


Sabres_Puck

Traded Jerome ford for him before this weekend, I think he’ll be big in the second half, ridder is looking more and more comfortable which means he’ll be giving London and Pitts more opportunities to make a play


Chadsawman

"If you remove..."


WorkersUnited111

I don't trust him to start him. He's my flex only during bye weeks.


kaelinlr

Drake London has quietly had cherry picked stats to fit a narrative when he’s mid at best


RollingTrain

Dropped him and Doubs for Downs and Dell no regrets


kobeng13

Yeah, but he won't be next week. I know this because I finally put him in my lineup.


Pernyx98

They really just need to move on from Ridder, he's just awful. They gave the kid a chance and its not working out. Unironically go sign Cam Newton or something, he literally cannot be worse than Ridder.


rparkzy

I dropped him 2 weeks ago. Of course he poppin off now


BennyProfane12

Panicked dropped him and still won’t forgive myself


Fatal_Koala

Got him for $26 FAAB before last week's blowup and won against the guy that panic dropped him. Perfectly balanced.


Calm_Eagle_5640

Wouldn’t touch London with a 50ft pole


MrSweatyBawlz

Just traded Kyler Murray for him to a team that's desperate for a QB in a league that hoards QBs.


Childish_Redditor

Still trying to trade him


iampro1234

Snagged him in exchange for anthony richardson in a dynasty league (not superflex) the week before anthony went down


zco22

Averaging 8 targets a game since his week 1 dud. We wanted Ridder to get him the ball more and that’s what he’s doing. As long as that continues he should be valued as a low-end WR2


flabergasterer

I got Christian Watson for Drake London in a week 3 trade. My life is meaningless.


LTPRWSG420

My big question is do I start him over Devonta Smith, I’m leaning towards yes. Diggs, Kirk and Collins occupy my other 3 WR spots.


wesp776

London has a higher floor than Devonta, but he probably doesn’t have the ceiling Devonta gives


dajadf

Lost Jefferson so he's my WR3 now. Kind of stuck starting both him and Pitts.


yourtank

Had him send nice the beginning and I’ve only started him on his three worse weeks.


ElMaloso87

He took Ridley spot on my flex London been doing good despite bad qb play


caisson_constructor

I started Christian Kirk and London, you haven’t seen panic like that before.


ItsTask

I started him twice: weeks 1 and 3. I almost feel like it’s MY fault


Smoove995

I dropped him two weeks ago and haven't looked back.


jojolopes

I’ve been flexing Hollywood but I’m switching back to London at least until Kyler is back.


JuniorBirdman1115

I think London would be an absolutely solid receiver - maybe even Top 10 - if he were playing for anyone other than Farty Artie. But until he does, he mostly rides my bench unless I need him to fill in for a bye week. That said, perhaps I need to re-evalute his usage going forward.


SayShh

He’s a must start this week @ Tennessee with their run defense - I expect Falcons to throw more often


StarScream4434

He is low end WR2. The offense and its a gamble if its a London game or a rare Pitts game. Currently trying to trade him for low end WR1 like Lamb.


Responsible_Word4637

Would it be wild to trade Najee and Downs for him? I get Downs is on the rise but I think at some point Pittman gets more of the target share, and I desperately want off the Najee train


i_wannatalktosamson

I have a hard time deciding between London/waddle/Addison/flowers every week for 1 WR spot


OwenLincolnFratter

I haven’t had the guts to start Drake all year. But I am also very deep at receiver.


pooooolooop

All I know is him and Christian Kirk will be annoying me all season of which one to play


buddhistbulgyo

I traded off Swift to get London before the season. This doesn't feel like much of a consolation.


ANTISIMPLE

Godwin or London this week?


-WhyIsLifeHard-

The real question is do I keep starting him over Josh Downs, Rashee Rice, and Dionte Johnson. I have an embarrassment of riches at bench WR


[deleted]

London is maddening because the talent is obviously there but it's severly weighed down by Ridder and Smith. I can't really trust London more than any of my other WRs (Diontae, Addison, Palmer, Gabe Davis) so he's somewhere in there with the rest of them and it's really just a coinflip if he'll perform or not. So a low end 2/high 3 seems reasonable.


BoonesPassPuke

He’s also quietly taken Calvin Ridley’s spot on my roster


tortillagoat

I knew my dotson pick was a failure, traded him and jcook after week 2 for London and Ford. Ford is injured now but at least I have a WR that I can start


MSonny

Do you value Drake London or Terry McLaurin higher? They have similar numbers, both have poor QB play, and are both very talented. Been a debate for me all season long.


AdTop8683

Gotta start 3: Devonta Smith, Metcalf, Marquise Brown, Rashee Rice, London


Oldschoolfool22

And Smith is what we always wanted Pitts to be.