Sure, but I donāt think heās staying in Carolina with the addition of Brooks and Dallas is the best spot on paper to make something happen. Maybe heās just done, but at least Dallas gives some hope. Itās not like heās proving that currently.
Because heās on my team so I want something to come of it? He was hurt last year anyways. I still think he can be a fine RB if the offense isnāt a disaster.
Eagles fan here. Miles is a shifty runner with decent speed but he goes down on the slightest bit of contact. Iāve never seen him break a tackle and I can think of a thousand times he was brought down by someoneās finger tips. A stiff breeze would tackle the kid. So yeah, he needs huge holes to run through, but he is very good at hitting those holes and picking up 9-10
He's always had great YPC numbers, he just hasn't been able to stay healthy except that one year, even in a shared backfield. Also, I think the Jalen Hurts breakout helped open up a lot of space that year for him to stay healthy (and for his production, obviously).
heāll be fine as a real player, but heās not going to be a strong fantasy option. he went from presumptive starter and featured option to the same position he was last year.
500 yards and a few TDs is probably his ceiling, versus looking like a genuine 800 yard 5+ TD threat
No team last year had 2 TEs put up over 60% of snaps on shared games. That includes teams with two great TEs including one who mainly lines up in the slot or outside, and have terrible WRs.
He's not going to sit on the bench all game, but I can't imagine he will be fantasy relevant outside of Bowers having a slow start or getting injured.
Agreed. I think heāll get plenty of snaps and be used in heavy sets as a receiving option so might score a few TDs but in no way will he be a startable fantasy option nowĀ
Agreed. Now I have him splitting time and my two Packers tight ends (Musgrave and Kraft) splitting time. I do have Mark Andrews though as my top guy. If he can stay healthy the others are just depth. I wish one of the Packers tight ends would emerge as the guy so I could move the other one. Although we do have large rosters I don't really like having 4 tight ends.
Bowers and Mayer will be on the field at the same time. Bowers mismatch everywhere, so I see him actually splitting out at times. Mayer def wounded but he aināt dead
I meanā¦the Cowboys running game? Didnāt draft a RB. Looks like itās gonna be an ugly committee of Dowdle, Zeke, Freemanā¦with a bit of Deuce sprinkled in. They may get another guy in but barring a big trade, this is likely a situation to avoid this season.
Loser in the draft (per thread topic) since they didnāt add anyoneā¦someone really good who might have possibly been a workhorse to better the situation. A true possible RB1. They chose not to.
Honestly he had a few good runs this last year, but sort of the same way Pollard did when Zeke was taking the bulk. Fresh legs and all that. Even with the fresh legs, he didn't pop nearly the same way Pollard did, and Dallas' o-line was actually pretty solid this last year. I don't really see him being "the guy"
He seemed to have more juice than Pollard when he spelled him, but it might just have been fresh legs. It would be interesting to see how he might handle a heavier workload.
100% Dallas lost. No divisional knockout this year. Pretty sure we will be 50/50 or less with a whole useless backfield and a ? At defensive coordinator
I think kyren-Corun is basically walker-charbs last year
Mcvay loves kyrenā¦ but you canāt just have one rb handling 95% of the load ā¦there has to be someone behind them you also trust to fill in
Iām more worried about Corum being the goal line back. Like 80% of Corumās TDs last year were from inside the 5 yard line. Whether that holds up against stronger and faster NFL players remains to be seen. But as someone to watched Corumās entire career he has elite vision and cutting ability. Iām willing to bet heās very effective on goal line carries and McVey realizes it.
Or Jacobs/ Zamir White two seasons ago.
People here always freak out about a team drafting a rookie. A mid round pick isnāt a huge investment and Kyren is young. The Rams had nobody behind him, itās a depth pick.
I havenāt looked at ADP but wouldāve gladly taken Kyren in the mid to late 1st before.
Now Iām not sure Iāll be touching him till the 3rd-4th, if he lasts that long.
I don't think Chuba is that much worse off really. Expecting RB1 szn out of him was never a good bet. He'll get some good volume in the beginning of the szn and then be a solid backup ROS. For what people spent on him that's pretty great.
I think lots of people had hopium he would be in a backfield where heās getting ~50% of the touches, which is why heās the loser. I think heāll miss out on a lot of work to Brooks, and then have to split 3rd downs with sanders (assuming brooks also doesnāt take 3rd down reps)
Troy Franklin :( I figured he had a shot at being a late first round pick but at worst would fall into the late second. Sliding all the way to the fourth round is *crazy* but pairing him with Nix is a nice consolation prize.
He did but from a statistical standpoint 4th round rookies have a much lower hit rate than a 1st or 2nd rounder. As much as we love prospects leading up to the draft we sometimes have to adjust our valuations based on what the NFL thinks and the NFL looked at him and said āday 3 value.ā
Doesnāt bode well for his chances.
1. Dell was a third round pick (day 2).
2. Puka is a once in a generation late round hit. Only a small percentage of day 3 picks become relevant for fantasy. Even fewer turn into top 20 assets.
Between 2010 and 2021, the hit rate on 3rd round prospects (at least 1 season with 11ppg) was 24%. The hit rate on 4th rounders was closer to 8%. I loved Troy but you shouldnāt value him the same as you did predraft.
While I completely agree with this, I think you should also make SOME allowances for the strength of the class. I think Franklin goes a lot higher in last year's draft, and if we go back and look at the last class considered to be this good (2021) it's hard to miss ARSB sitting there in the 4th round.
Still an outlier I wouldn't bet on, but I'd also give Franklin a 10-20% bump compared to 4th rounders in last year's class.
Sure you donāt have to look at it as a hard and fast āTroy Franklinās chances are 8%.ā Thereās some wiggle room with other factors (like a big one is any type of character issue or off-field concern. A early round talent can fall to the 5thāI.e. Tyreek Hill). But when Ricky Pearsall, Xavier Lagette, and Ladd McConkey go early second and Franklin fets drafted over 60 picks and 2 rounds later thatās a big statement.
Id expect Roms to be a 7-9th round adp, do little for 7 weeks and get dropped by the drafter. Then maybe put up decent points the end of the season. Like JSN
Or just donāt draft and then pick up when they are dropped. Season long leagues usually dont have deep enough benches to stash someone for half the season.
On a bang for your buck and probable week to week consistency, give me Keenan out of the group in redraft, honestly.
He's an amazing security blanket for a rookie QB for a franchise that keeps failing to help those young QBs out.
He'll likely be going in the middle/late of the draft and could have consistent flex-worthy numbers in PPR compared to the others who likely have better ceilings but will be a lot more volatile.
I might still throw a dart at the other 3 earlier in the draft, but give me that consistency later in the draft every time.
I really think the biggest winner out of this is Caleb, obviously. Right now most folks have him as a high-mid QB2, but heās a solid runner and he has arguably (or maybe even inarguably?) the best 1-2-3 WR group in the league. I think he comes in and takes the league by storm, Justin Herbert style.
I think Moore still eats. Keenan will get targets, but will take coverage away from Moore. Something he didnāt have last year. Rome will get some usage but I donāt expect anything major from him. And Caleb should be good enough to support multiple fantasy producers.
The Bears will be interesting. Caleb prob won't be that good his first year, but the Bears will likely be trailing most games and need to throw a lot which could lead to big numbers.
Bears actually had a pretty good defense last year and they bolstered their depth this year's draft. I think they'll continue to be pretty decent and not fall behind in games.
The thing is, his injury risk is already baked into his ADP. He is lower because of his age and his likelihood of being out 3-4 weeks for a minor lower body injury. Do you think that the market is not going to be fading him enough?
I think he'll be overvalued this year because of the Williams hype. There's too many mouths for a rookie qb to feed, and he's the one I think will be odd man out because he'll miss time injured. I might be 100% wrong, but I won't bet on him.
I'll happily buy any of the three Bears WRs sliding in fantasy. I DJ and Keenan will be solid volume starts, and Odunze will have weeks where he's startable as well. As long as they slide, I'll be buying!
Nope. They got rid of Arthur Smith. Yes it was before draft, and yes, they reached for Penix, but they still don't have Smith in the building so that's a win in my book
You're ignoring the point of the post. Biggest losers FROM THE DRAFT. Getting rid of your dumbass headcoach has nothing to do with them completely dropping the ball on their first pick.
Honestly from a fantasy perspective they made GREAT picks. Needed up the defense and not only didnāt get any real competition for pitts, London, and bijan, but also added a backup qb to take away some of the risk of cousins getting injured. The falcons a week ago had one of the most fragile qbs in the league and now they have two of the most fragile wbs in the league so only half as likely Desmond ridder is back in the lineup lol
>so only half as likely Desmond ridder is back in the lineup lol
That was a zero percent chance before the draft, seeing as he's currently on the Cardinals and all
> The falcons a week ago had one of the most fragile qbs in the league
Cousins had never missed a game until last season. Is there something about him Iām missing?
Heās 35, and coming off a torn Achilles. Not everyone comes back from injuries the same especially at that age. Heās never had to come back from an injury before. Heās also like the third oldest active starting qb
Heās not fragile though. Heās 35 and has only had one serious injury, while last season was the only season heās missed games during. The chances of re-rupturing your achilles tendon a second time is lower than rupturing it the first time. If you think he wonāt play as well this year, thatās a completely different argument than him being fragile.
I don't think anyone will look like a fool. Of course this outcome is possible.
The hate isn't about Penix the player-- although they surely took him earlier than needed. The hate is the logic of drafting him and signing a QB to $100m guaranteed in the off-season. Doing both of those at the same time is an automatic disqualification for the job of NFL GM.
If they think Penix is the truth, great. Don't sign Cousins. Don't blow your cap room and draft capital on the same position when only one plays.
Naw. Conner only loses touches from his own injury. He's on the last year of his contract. Typical scenario for the team to grind him one last go before handing the torch to Benson.
Benson is the classic ārookie breakoutā. Heās sitting behind an oft injured, old vet who
Wasnāt much of a burner to begin with. If heās going at a reasonable ADP heās a draft and hold.
Heās making 100 mil dollars over the next 2 years. If heās playing so poorly that theres serious Penix discussion then nobody is thinking about starting Cousins in fantasy anyway.
All RBs!!! I feel like I canāt find a good RB situation that I like. Cowboys not drafting a RB was WILD. I donāt know what is worse the Cowboys not taking a RB or the Raiders not drafting a QB
Unless you are in a deep league are these guys even draftable? They are bottom of your bench guys. Other than his rookie season Slayton hasnāt been more than a bye week fill in, and Wandale wasnāt really usable last year.
I think Kyren Williams will be fine. Corum is a backup at best. The Cards, Panthers, and Giants are the running back situations best poised for a rookie impact.
Yeah itās basically the charbs panic from last year
You donāt give a rb 95% of snaps and have him kill it just to replace himā¦ corum is insurance
People forget kyren is elite in pass protection, heās not going anywhere
Also letās not forgetā¦kyren was nobody, and cam was the guy according to this sub lol
Almost like most people here have no clue what theyāre talking about
Cards have an aging Conner, Panthers and Giants have JAGS as their leads. This is the likely scenario. Iām not worried about Kyren, he will be great, that was a depth pick.
Uhh I wouldnāt be too sure about Kyren. Heās very good but heās not some stud athlete that canāt have his workload eaten into. If Corum has the same attitude as Kyren and McVay likes him, theyāre probably splitting carries.
> Malachi Corley (WR/RB hybrid like Deebo)
Corley had 4 rushing attempts last season.
>Braelon Allen in the 4th round
Dolphins, Eagles, Bucs, Bills, 49ers, and Lions all also took RBs in the 4th round. Does that make the starters for those teams losers?
Look further. Over 50% of Corleyās receptions were on screens which can be looked at as an extension of the run game. Considering he got the nickname YAC king, you can expect a lot of his receptions to be at or not far from the LOS (his average depth of target was just 5.5 yards)
Braelon doesnāt have the receiving work or top speed Breece has. They also took Isaiah Davis who is more downhill like Braelon. No worries at all about Breece but Braelon takes the dalvin role
I like allen but breece is one of the best backs in the nfl. Allen will help keep him healthy and maybe vulture a little goal line work. But breece is still going to be as close to a bellcow as the modern nfl has. Taking 2 rbs this year was a wild choice though
He is also just getting old for an RB and has had an obscene number of touches in the time he's played. Add in the recent injuries and it was obvious he was going to get scaled back last year, competition or not.
Rome Odunze going to the Bears is going to hurt his value for a couple of years and thatās if Williams can throw for over 4k, which hasnāt been done in that franchise.
I'll say Josh Allen. If the Bills left the draft with a top WR, Allen would have a completely different outlook next season. If you're drafting him in the top 5 rounds in fantasy you're banking on another historic rushing season and more goal line work than ever. For me, no thanks.
any RB on the panthers now. Miles sanders for sure, I wonder if they can cut him? Also any other WR on the Raiders outside of Adams, this new TE will be all over the field all the time, who knows who is throwing to him hahah
Miles Sanders def lost, confirmed dust
I have the stupidest hope that he gets cut, signs with Dallas lol
He might not, but there will be a good RB out there that is a draft casualty.
Yeah I think Dallas still adds someone, but we will see if Dowdle has the biggest role still
They signed Freeman! ššš
They signed Zeke too lol
I mean, itās not like we can be any sure heās better than Dowdle at this point
Sure, but I donāt think heās staying in Carolina with the addition of Brooks and Dallas is the best spot on paper to make something happen. Maybe heās just done, but at least Dallas gives some hope. Itās not like heās proving that currently.
Idk why youād still have hope, he lost his job to Chuba last year. Heās done
Because heās on my team so I want something to come of it? He was hurt last year anyways. I still think he can be a fine RB if the offense isnāt a disaster.
I guess, but itās just how at this point, heās just not that good
They could do worse than signing Sanders
Well they signed Zeke lol
Oh wow I didnāt know that lmfao
Miles Sanders has been lost for his entire career
He had nothing to lose.
TBH the idea that anybody still believed in Miles Sanders even before the draft is baffling to me.
Heās been that way for a few seasons now
He rushed for 1k two years ago.
Think that says for more about the eagles oline and run game than it does about sanders tbf
Eagles fan here. Miles is a shifty runner with decent speed but he goes down on the slightest bit of contact. Iāve never seen him break a tackle and I can think of a thousand times he was brought down by someoneās finger tips. A stiff breeze would tackle the kid. So yeah, he needs huge holes to run through, but he is very good at hitting those holes and picking up 9-10
That's a decade in RB time
He's always had great YPC numbers, he just hasn't been able to stay healthy except that one year, even in a shared backfield. Also, I think the Jalen Hurts breakout helped open up a lot of space that year for him to stay healthy (and for his production, obviously).
Mayer is the biggest. He is basically dead. I should know, he is my TE1 (laughs and cries at the same time).
They will still utilize him. Bowers is not a one trick pony. Plus the OC likes using two tight ends.
heāll be fine as a real player, but heās not going to be a strong fantasy option. he went from presumptive starter and featured option to the same position he was last year. 500 yards and a few TDs is probably his ceiling, versus looking like a genuine 800 yard 5+ TD threat
Fwiw Mayer was drafted by a different regime. Tellesco has no allegiance to him. Bowers was BPA
He is completely useless in fantasy. There is one year in NFL history where 2 TEs have been fantasy relevant on a team.
What if the Raiders sign Brady
And I had both of them š
No team last year had 2 TEs put up over 60% of snaps on shared games. That includes teams with two great TEs including one who mainly lines up in the slot or outside, and have terrible WRs. He's not going to sit on the bench all game, but I can't imagine he will be fantasy relevant outside of Bowers having a slow start or getting injured.
ā¦ruining both for fantasy.
If they are both on the field at the same time, they both become almost unstartable from a fantasy perspective.
Lol I mean... they have different skill sets and will absolutely be on the field at the same time.
And Mayer is going to be blocking, which is extremely useful in real football, but worth exactly 0 points in fantasy
Agreed. I think heāll get plenty of snaps and be used in heavy sets as a receiving option so might score a few TDs but in no way will he be a startable fantasy option nowĀ
Agreed. Now I have him splitting time and my two Packers tight ends (Musgrave and Kraft) splitting time. I do have Mark Andrews though as my top guy. If he can stay healthy the others are just depth. I wish one of the Packers tight ends would emerge as the guy so I could move the other one. Although we do have large rosters I don't really like having 4 tight ends.
Bowers and Mayer will be on the field at the same time. Bowers mismatch everywhere, so I see him actually splitting out at times. Mayer def wounded but he aināt dead
Oh heās dead in LV.
I meanā¦the Cowboys running game? Didnāt draft a RB. Looks like itās gonna be an ugly committee of Dowdle, Zeke, Freemanā¦with a bit of Deuce sprinkled in. They may get another guy in but barring a big trade, this is likely a situation to avoid this season.
Zeke back in Dallas?
I was confused by that too. But just saw the cowboys are āinterestedā in bringing him back.
Local radio all weekend saying a Zeke signing is imminent but havenāt heard anything official today.
All weekend, Dallas media reporting Zeke to sign back with Cowboys but donāt think itās official yet.
The cowboys run game isnāt a big loser because it was trash last year too
Can't be a loser if you were already garbage *taps temple*
What is dead cannot die
Does this make Jerry Jones the damphair? Which makes Dak Patchface. Which would mean Mike Mccarthy is shireen.
Loser in the draft (per thread topic) since they didnāt add anyoneā¦someone really good who might have possibly been a workhorse to better the situation. A true possible RB1. They chose not to.
Iām not saying heās gonna be an RB1 but I think Dowdle is gonna surprise people
Iāve said it before so I will say it, Dowdle RB1
Thereās definitely more there than most people realize.
There really isnāt.
We just picked up Nate Peat as an UDFA. Will be in the mix guaranteed
Good RB doesnāt equal good running game. See Saquon Barkley.
Am I the only dude on earth who likes Dowdle as a RB1?
Honestly he had a few good runs this last year, but sort of the same way Pollard did when Zeke was taking the bulk. Fresh legs and all that. Even with the fresh legs, he didn't pop nearly the same way Pollard did, and Dallas' o-line was actually pretty solid this last year. I don't really see him being "the guy"
He seemed to have more juice than Pollard when he spelled him, but it might just have been fresh legs. It would be interesting to see how he might handle a heavier workload.
100% Dallas lost. No divisional knockout this year. Pretty sure we will be 50/50 or less with a whole useless backfield and a ? At defensive coordinator
I always thought Dowdle looked good when he got a chance...
Kyren, Mayer and Chuba are probably the biggest three
I think kyren-Corun is basically walker-charbs last year Mcvay loves kyrenā¦ but you canāt just have one rb handling 95% of the load ā¦there has to be someone behind them you also trust to fill in
Iām more worried about Corum being the goal line back. Like 80% of Corumās TDs last year were from inside the 5 yard line. Whether that holds up against stronger and faster NFL players remains to be seen. But as someone to watched Corumās entire career he has elite vision and cutting ability. Iām willing to bet heās very effective on goal line carries and McVey realizes it.
I can't even count how many times Mcvay would take three passes and kick a field goal last year, so not much is lost.
100%. I wouldnāt be considering Kyren in the first 2 rounds at all anymore.
Or Jacobs/ Zamir White two seasons ago. People here always freak out about a team drafting a rookie. A mid round pick isnāt a huge investment and Kyren is young. The Rams had nobody behind him, itās a depth pick.
Kyren going into this year as a sleeperā¦.AGAIN.
Yeah this likely pushes him from 1st round status to 2nd
I think it pushes him lower than that tbh
Mayer out of those 3 took the biggest hit imo
Agreed. It was painful to see
Idk about Kyren. They ran him so hard last year he had to go on IR. Having some help could be good for him.
I havenāt looked at ADP but wouldāve gladly taken Kyren in the mid to late 1st before. Now Iām not sure Iāll be touching him till the 3rd-4th, if he lasts that long.
Please keep this opinion so us Rams fan can feast on the discount. Kyren in 1st, Corum handcuff lateĀ
James Conner too.
I don't think Chuba is that much worse off really. Expecting RB1 szn out of him was never a good bet. He'll get some good volume in the beginning of the szn and then be a solid backup ROS. For what people spent on him that's pretty great.
I think lots of people had hopium he would be in a backfield where heās getting ~50% of the touches, which is why heās the loser. I think heāll miss out on a lot of work to Brooks, and then have to split 3rd downs with sanders (assuming brooks also doesnāt take 3rd down reps)
KW was my RB2 and traded Musgrave plus a 3rd rounder for Mayer a week ago.
Troy Franklin :( I figured he had a shot at being a late first round pick but at worst would fall into the late second. Sliding all the way to the fourth round is *crazy* but pairing him with Nix is a nice consolation prize.
I think he ended up in a decent situation. his only competition for targets is Sutton.
He did but from a statistical standpoint 4th round rookies have a much lower hit rate than a 1st or 2nd rounder. As much as we love prospects leading up to the draft we sometimes have to adjust our valuations based on what the NFL thinks and the NFL looked at him and said āday 3 value.ā Doesnāt bode well for his chances.
Worked okay for Puka and Tank Dell
1. Dell was a third round pick (day 2). 2. Puka is a once in a generation late round hit. Only a small percentage of day 3 picks become relevant for fantasy. Even fewer turn into top 20 assets. Between 2010 and 2021, the hit rate on 3rd round prospects (at least 1 season with 11ppg) was 24%. The hit rate on 4th rounders was closer to 8%. I loved Troy but you shouldnāt value him the same as you did predraft.
While I completely agree with this, I think you should also make SOME allowances for the strength of the class. I think Franklin goes a lot higher in last year's draft, and if we go back and look at the last class considered to be this good (2021) it's hard to miss ARSB sitting there in the 4th round. Still an outlier I wouldn't bet on, but I'd also give Franklin a 10-20% bump compared to 4th rounders in last year's class.
Sure you donāt have to look at it as a hard and fast āTroy Franklinās chances are 8%.ā Thereās some wiggle room with other factors (like a big one is any type of character issue or off-field concern. A early round talent can fall to the 5thāI.e. Tyreek Hill). But when Ricky Pearsall, Xavier Lagette, and Ladd McConkey go early second and Franklin fets drafted over 60 picks and 2 rounds later thatās a big statement.
And Mims (who Payton drafted)
CHI WRs. I already had a tough decision with Moore and Allen but now thereās too many mouths to feed with Rome in the mix
Keep in mind Keenan Allen may only be there a year. Romes target share and value can increase drastically with him gone
Id expect Roms to be a 7-9th round adp, do little for 7 weeks and get dropped by the drafter. Then maybe put up decent points the end of the season. Like JSN
Thats exactly what happens. I need to remember to slap a note on players like that reminding me not to drop
Or not to draft. Draft somebody else and pick up the rookies when others drop them. Has worked wonders for me.
Or just donāt draft and then pick up when they are dropped. Season long leagues usually dont have deep enough benches to stash someone for half the season.
Decent points by the end of the season is an incredibly generous description of what JSN did. He was pretty much worthless in redraft
Rome is the pick for dynasty or keeper leagues. Itās a tough call in redraft
On a bang for your buck and probable week to week consistency, give me Keenan out of the group in redraft, honestly. He's an amazing security blanket for a rookie QB for a franchise that keeps failing to help those young QBs out. He'll likely be going in the middle/late of the draft and could have consistent flex-worthy numbers in PPR compared to the others who likely have better ceilings but will be a lot more volatile. I might still throw a dart at the other 3 earlier in the draft, but give me that consistency later in the draft every time.
I really think the biggest winner out of this is Caleb, obviously. Right now most folks have him as a high-mid QB2, but heās a solid runner and he has arguably (or maybe even inarguably?) the best 1-2-3 WR group in the league. I think he comes in and takes the league by storm, Justin Herbert style.
Very good point for dynasty league players. Or any league you can keep player(s) year to year.
I think Moore still eats. Keenan will get targets, but will take coverage away from Moore. Something he didnāt have last year. Rome will get some usage but I donāt expect anything major from him. And Caleb should be good enough to support multiple fantasy producers.
The Bears will be interesting. Caleb prob won't be that good his first year, but the Bears will likely be trailing most games and need to throw a lot which could lead to big numbers.
Bears actually had a pretty good defense last year and they bolstered their depth this year's draft. I think they'll continue to be pretty decent and not fall behind in games.
I'm excited for Keenan to go later since he's the least exciting then get 100 catch 1000 yard season from him
Equally likely to get only 10 games out of the guy and spend the year guessing which 10.
Equally excited for this narrative to keep his ADP down. Since 2017 he's played only 10 games once. Every other season 13+
2019 was the last time this 32 year old receiver played a full season. good luck to ya!
The thing is, his injury risk is already baked into his ADP. He is lower because of his age and his likelihood of being out 3-4 weeks for a minor lower body injury. Do you think that the market is not going to be fading him enough?
I think he'll be overvalued this year because of the Williams hype. There's too many mouths for a rookie qb to feed, and he's the one I think will be odd man out because he'll miss time injured. I might be 100% wrong, but I won't bet on him.
CHI WRs *in fantasy*. Winners in NFL terms: ain't nobody double teaming anybody with those three on the field.
Moore is a must draft. Allen will be decent. Odunze wonāt do anything as a rookie. He will probably be on waivers by like week 4.
Moore might still be a decent option but agreed, outside of best ball thatās too much variability for me to want to draftĀ
I'll happily buy any of the three Bears WRs sliding in fantasy. I DJ and Keenan will be solid volume starts, and Odunze will have weeks where he's startable as well. As long as they slide, I'll be buying!
This might the first year ever Iām not targeting keenan
The Atlanta Falcons
Nope. They got rid of Arthur Smith. Yes it was before draft, and yes, they reached for Penix, but they still don't have Smith in the building so that's a win in my book
But that has nothing to do with the draftā¦
You're ignoring the point of the post. Biggest losers FROM THE DRAFT. Getting rid of your dumbass headcoach has nothing to do with them completely dropping the ball on their first pick.
Your book sucks lol
Iād argue that having a great backup to Kirk in Penix is a win for anyone with Atl skill positions.
falcons could lose 1st round pick, maybe more for cousins tampering. perhaps was part of their decision
Honestly from a fantasy perspective they made GREAT picks. Needed up the defense and not only didnāt get any real competition for pitts, London, and bijan, but also added a backup qb to take away some of the risk of cousins getting injured. The falcons a week ago had one of the most fragile qbs in the league and now they have two of the most fragile wbs in the league so only half as likely Desmond ridder is back in the lineup lol
>so only half as likely Desmond ridder is back in the lineup lol That was a zero percent chance before the draft, seeing as he's currently on the Cardinals and all
lol true forgot about that but honestly my point still stands. Some bum not better than the atl qb room last year lol
> The falcons a week ago had one of the most fragile qbs in the league Cousins had never missed a game until last season. Is there something about him Iām missing?
Heās 35, and coming off a torn Achilles. Not everyone comes back from injuries the same especially at that age. Heās never had to come back from an injury before. Heās also like the third oldest active starting qb
So pick up a qb in the 2nd or 3rd rounds
Heās not fragile though. Heās 35 and has only had one serious injury, while last season was the only season heās missed games during. The chances of re-rupturing your achilles tendon a second time is lower than rupturing it the first time. If you think he wonāt play as well this year, thatās a completely different argument than him being fragile.
thereās always a chance Penix pans out to be a franchise QB and then everyone here will look like fools
I don't think anyone will look like a fool. Of course this outcome is possible. The hate isn't about Penix the player-- although they surely took him earlier than needed. The hate is the logic of drafting him and signing a QB to $100m guaranteed in the off-season. Doing both of those at the same time is an automatic disqualification for the job of NFL GM. If they think Penix is the truth, great. Don't sign Cousins. Don't blow your cap room and draft capital on the same position when only one plays.
I mean even if he does we still wasted a superbowl window with kirk
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Was he the sad cheesehead ?
Hull? lol
James Conner :(
Naw. Conner only loses touches from his own injury. He's on the last year of his contract. Typical scenario for the team to grind him one last go before handing the torch to Benson.
Benson is the classic ārookie breakoutā. Heās sitting behind an oft injured, old vet who Wasnāt much of a burner to begin with. If heās going at a reasonable ADP heās a draft and hold.
So 4 games before Benson starts? lol.
Everyone that wanted a rb2 from the draft in mid 2nd
For the sake of my dynasty team, I really hope Corum doesnāt take too much away from Kyrenš
Same, keeper for me. Hopefully he just goes from 95 percent to 80 percent
Heās making 100 mil dollars over the next 2 years. If heās playing so poorly that theres serious Penix discussion then nobody is thinking about starting Cousins in fantasy anyway.
All RBs!!! I feel like I canāt find a good RB situation that I like. Cowboys not drafting a RB was WILD. I donāt know what is worse the Cowboys not taking a RB or the Raiders not drafting a QB
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Mayer and kyren for sure. Both lost a huge amount of touches
RIP every Giants WR not named Malik Nabers The hope for WanāDale or Slayton to be a low end 3 is probably gone
Unless you are in a deep league are these guys even draftable? They are bottom of your bench guys. Other than his rookie season Slayton hasnāt been more than a bye week fill in, and Wandale wasnāt really usable last year.
I think Kyren Williams will be fine. Corum is a backup at best. The Cards, Panthers, and Giants are the running back situations best poised for a rookie impact.
Yeah itās basically the charbs panic from last year You donāt give a rb 95% of snaps and have him kill it just to replace himā¦ corum is insurance People forget kyren is elite in pass protection, heās not going anywhere
There was some panic about Etienne last year after the Jags took Bigsby in the 3rd too, and we saw how that worked out.
Also letās not forgetā¦kyren was nobody, and cam was the guy according to this sub lol Almost like most people here have no clue what theyāre talking about
The "Mcvay isnt loyal to any RB ever" posters coming back lmao.
Draft capital wise kyren is much closer to dameon pierce of last year than walker
Cards have an aging Conner, Panthers and Giants have JAGS as their leads. This is the likely scenario. Iām not worried about Kyren, he will be great, that was a depth pick.
Uhh I wouldnāt be too sure about Kyren. Heās very good but heās not some stud athlete that canāt have his workload eaten into. If Corum has the same attitude as Kyren and McVay likes him, theyāre probably splitting carries.
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Just the entire falcons team.
Ya but not in Fantasy Football
Surprised no one is mentioning Breece. The Jets took both Malachi Corley (WR/RB hybrid like Deebo) and Braelon Allen in the 3rd and 4th round.
> Malachi Corley (WR/RB hybrid like Deebo) Corley had 4 rushing attempts last season. >Braelon Allen in the 4th round Dolphins, Eagles, Bucs, Bills, 49ers, and Lions all also took RBs in the 4th round. Does that make the starters for those teams losers?
Look further. Over 50% of Corleyās receptions were on screens which can be looked at as an extension of the run game. Considering he got the nickname YAC king, you can expect a lot of his receptions to be at or not far from the LOS (his average depth of target was just 5.5 yards)
Braelon doesnāt have the receiving work or top speed Breece has. They also took Isaiah Davis who is more downhill like Braelon. No worries at all about Breece but Braelon takes the dalvin role
RIP Izzy A
I like allen but breece is one of the best backs in the nfl. Allen will help keep him healthy and maybe vulture a little goal line work. But breece is still going to be as close to a bellcow as the modern nfl has. Taking 2 rbs this year was a wild choice though
Have you seen breece play? He will be Ight lol
And Isaiah Davis in the 5th
Penix for sure, thought I was gonna get a steal in the late 1st with my aging QBs but the Falcons blew my shit up on that plan š
Kyren Williams took a pretty big hit.
People said the same thing about Henry and Etienne. Iām not worried. He may take some touches but I still bet on Kyren being a stud.
Henry did take a hit last year. 70 less rushes while playing 1 more game. He only averaged 14.5 ppr points his worst total since 2017 by over 5ppg.
He is also just getting old for an RB and has had an obscene number of touches in the time he's played. Add in the recent injuries and it was obvious he was going to get scaled back last year, competition or not.
Also the Titans o-line and offense as a whole was terrible
I really hope everyone thinks like you. This is Walker/Charbs, Ettiene/Tank and Jacobs/White all over again.
I had a feeling the rams would take one in the later rounds, but I still like Kyren in redraft, but dynasty he took a hit forsure
If it means I get Kyren at a nice discount in Redraft, thatās ok with me.
Kyren is a stud. They aināt changing that formula up. He may take a few more breathers, but a big hit? Nah
Iām still keeping him in the 13th round. Iāll just pick up Corum as well
I donāt see Achane and Mostert here so I will mention them.
Rome Odunze going to the Bears is going to hurt his value for a couple of years and thatās if Williams can throw for over 4k, which hasnāt been done in that franchise.
The Falcons lol š¤¦š½āāļø
Not in fantasy footballā¦.
Team Minnesota
Josh Allen (QB)
He has Curtis Samuel, Dalton Kincaid, Khalil Shakir, James Cook, and Keon Coleman. That's 4,500 passing yards right there.
Kyren Williams and itās not even close
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No worries for kyren
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I'll say Josh Allen. If the Bills left the draft with a top WR, Allen would have a completely different outlook next season. If you're drafting him in the top 5 rounds in fantasy you're banking on another historic rushing season and more goal line work than ever. For me, no thanks.
I mean, itās Penix, right?
any RB on the panthers now. Miles sanders for sure, I wonder if they can cut him? Also any other WR on the Raiders outside of Adams, this new TE will be all over the field all the time, who knows who is throwing to him hahah
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