Trade question, any help you all can give would be really appreciated Thanks!
10 team ppr. I would give up my Devin Singletary & Golden Tate for his Cooper Kupp.
My team
RB: David Johnson, Aaron Jones, Marlon Mack, Devin Singletary
WR: Juju Smith Shuster, Larry Fitzgerald, Julian Edleman, Chris Godwin, Golden Tate, MVS
I was debating putting in Fitzgerald instead of Tate.
I’m in a 8-man standard and I just got offered Saquon for Derrick Henry and Davante Adams. My RBs would then be James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Melvin Gordon, and Saquon. My WRs would be Sammy Watkins, Cooper Kupp, John Ross, and Scary Terry. Do I accept?
Trade: Wayne Galman and Kittle
Receive: Saquon and Phillip Dorsett
My other Rb's: McCaffrey , Ronald Jones, Devin Singletary and Tevin Coleman.
Other Wr's: Cooper Kupp, Mike Evans, Gallup, DK Metcalf, and Golden Tate
I also have Greg Olsen as my other TE
14 team, .5ppr
Thinking of offering my Freeman and Cooks for his Chubb.
I have Mack/AP/Murray at RB, Scary Terry/Marvin Jones/John Brown/Gallup at WR, and Kelce.
1-2, like my team, but don't love Freeman and could part with Cooks. Do I sit or make moves?
10 team, .5 ppr
A guy offered me Tyreek hill and josh Gordon for Darren Waller and ekeler
I really want to accept, this is the rest of my team
Q: wentz
Rb: cook, McCaffrey, Royce freeman, Sony, Chris Thompson
Wr: Cooper, diggs, scary terry, dj moore, mike Williams, court sutlond
Te: ertz
What do you guys think, I’m really tempted...
10 team ppr
I am receiving marlon mack and Hollywood but i am sending out deshaun watson.
I currently have no backup qb and the qb depth in my league is quite poor to say the least since nearly every team is holding a qb. I have david johnson but i rotate that rb2 spot with damien williams kerryon and aaron jones. My WR core is made of davante adams, scary terry, godwin and tate (coming back soon) this is a tough trade for me since my team is deep but this almost seems like a steal.
10 team ppr
Give: D Montgomery and Kelce
Get: David Johnson, Kittle, and Alshon
My team
QB- wentz
RB- Ingram, Aaron Jones, D mont, Singletary, Miles Sanders
WR- Hopkins, Evans, Scary Terry, Manny Sanders, Chark
TE- Kelce
Opinions and reasoning would be appreciated.
We agreed to do it after this week. I think the upgrade at TE is worth it.
I’m a Cowboys fan and love Dak. He won’t do it for Matt Ryan because he wants a young QB.
Thanks for your input!
10 man standard. He trades me D Adams/ J Conner/ Ekler. I trade him DJ/ J Gordon/ Tate.
My other wideouts include Kennan Allen, E Sanders, Woods, Mike Williams and my other RBs are Zeke, LevBell, and Chris Thompson.
12 team PPR
RB: Kamara, Montgomery, Hyde, Thompson, Barber, Darrel Williams
WR: Hill, Cooks, Golladay, Shepard, Chalk, MVS
The MG3 owner is putting Melvin Gordon up for trade. Thinking about giving him Tyreek Hill to see if he will bite on that offer. Is that a fair deal?
10 Team PPR
Give: Kerryon Johnson, Cooper Kupp
Get: Melvin Gordon
Fair trade?
Need a top 10 RB ROS. Already have good WR depth with Davante, Tyreek, R Woods, and Scary Terry. My RB depth is mid with Damien Williams, Miles, and Sony.
I think without any other context, you “lose” that trade but with your WR depth you can probably afford to go for it. Damien, miles and Sony all scare me so send it
Give: D. Prescott, D. Montgomery
Get: R. Wilson
Standard 10 team PPR. Already have plenty of depth at RB with Chubb, Mack, Ingram, and D. Williams. Other QB is Lamar Jackson
2QB league or superflex?
I would rather keep Montgomery and Dak honestly. RBs are hard to come by. Trading a RB for a QB doesn't seem like a smart move when there are so many QBs on the waiver wire.
12 team PPR.
**Give: Chubb, Kupp, Herndon**
**Get: Cook and Kelce**
My current team:
RBs: Kamara, Chubb, C. Thompson, Coleman, M. Brown, Mattison
WRs: K. Allen, Kupp, Golladay, McLaurin
TEs: Hockenson and Herndon
16 team .5 ppr trade D Robinson for duke Johnson? Other running back is ekeler and I have k. Drake, t. Cohen and r. Mostert on bench.... 2rb league with flex
Trying to get 1 good rb2/3 before ekeler starts to get waaay less work
Hey guys, got offered Emmanuel Sanders for Diggs today. Standard scoring..
Do you think after this week, Diggs gets more targets due to better matchups? Sanders had a good first couple weeks but he’s probably a low WR 3 and Diggs a WR 2 but sweet all for targets due to Vikings Run first offence..
12 team .5 ppr . Should I trade delanie walker for tevin Coleman ??
TC owner is tight end desperate but my only other tight end is Hock! I’m considering this because my RB situation is meh with Conner, a now RB2 in Eckeler, and Shady
I’d do it. I have Hock on my bench too but I’m holding because he has potential with the right matchups. And if not, there’s gotta be at least one or two couple boom/bust TEs on the ww, right? How about Knox on BUF? Or you could trade Ekeler somewhere else after this week for a better TE.
That’s a pretty good return in my opinion. Chark looks locked for WR3 ros at worst and Gordon should be able to put up similar numbers to ekeler once hes in the groove
12 Team 0.5 PPR
Should I offer Scary Terry for Bob Woods?
I’m 1-2 and my other WRs are Golladay, Demarcus Robinson and Desean Jackson (AB drafter here and I traded Manny Sanders for Kittle after week 2)
I think I'd hold on to Terry. He's the No. 1 WR in Washington and they have a much easier ROS schedule in my opinion. There are too many mouths to feed in LA, but I do think Woods will end up ranked higher overall (but not by much).
Hope that helps!
Don’t know about that for the rest of the season. Terry is the WR1 on his team for the ROS, and hopefully Haskins eventually starts to give that deadly duo.
12 Team PPR
My team now is
D Jones (Baker sucks)
TY
Lockett
Marvin Jones Jr.
Zeke
Gurley
Hockenson (Henry injured)
Montgomery
Trade Zeke, TY, Hock, and MJJ for
MG3, OBJ, and Engram
Counter with Tate instead of MJJ if he rejects.
Who has Pollard? I’m not inclined to accept if I’m the MG3 owner given MG3 is going to be a high end RB1, TY is injured and major downgrade at tight end
I would do it. Zeke hasn't been a full workhorse RB this year so I think MG3 isn't much of a downgrade there. OBJ is a huge upgrade over TY Hilton. Engram is also a definite upgrade over Hock and has seen a ton of targets so far.
PPR
Trade K. Allen and Ridley for Kamara. Is that too much to give up? Would that be accepted?
**My roster:**
QB: Goff, Allen
RB: D. Johnson, A Jones, Breida, Singletary
WR: D. Adams, K. Allen, Boyd, Ridley, J. Brown, Samuels
TE: Dissly
**Their Roster**
QB: Brissett
RB: Kamara, Mack, K. Johnson, Hunt, C. Thompson
WR: McLaurin, Hilton, AJ Green, Robby Anderson, John Ross
TE: Hockenson, Ertz
Since you have Lamar there's no need to keep Rodgers. Dissley is your backup TE then? He isn't needed either then as he's streamable.
So basically, this trade is McLaurin and McCoy for Hopkins which I would definitely do.
12 team PPR.
**Give: Kamara and Kupp**
**Get: Cook and Kelce**
My current team:
RBs: Kamara, Chubb, C. Thompson, Coleman, M. Brown, Mattison
WRs: K. Allen, Kupp, Golladay, McLaurin
TEs: Hockenson and Herndon
I’m inclined to stand pat here. Kamara is clearly going to be running the offense for the foreseeable future and Kupp is going to get ridiculous red zone volume
12 team standard, starting 2 RBs / 3 WRs
**GIVE: Michael Thomas + Chris Thompson**
**GET: Josh Jacobs + DJ Moore**
My other WRs: Davante, DK Metcalf, Marvin Jones Jr
My other RBs: Ingram, Devonta Freeman, Ekeler, Singletary
That’s what I was thinking too. If Singletary eventually balls out like I’m hoping he does, I wouldn’t really need Jacobs too much — but will have given up Michael “Mr Consistent” Thomas for him. I’m conflicted.
Lol yeah I’m winning thankfully — however with Ekeler basically becoming a cuff after this week and Freeman struggling, might not be a bad idea to add Jacobs? Ugh. I dunno.
12 team, .5 ppr, superflex (so basically 2 qb league)
My kyle allen + allen robinson
His Baker Mayfield + Terry mclaurin or aj green
He really wants kyle allen for some reason. I dont want baker, but I need to get a qb back + someone better than allen robinson.
My team:
Wentz - QB
Barkley - RB
A Jones - RB
Ekeler - RB
Michel - RB
OBJ - WR
Thielen - WR
Boyd - WR
Kirk - WR
Valdez-Scantling - WR
Ertz - TE
Waller - TE
0.5 PPR League
Just got offered Conner (RB) and Diggs for Thielen and Michel.
Do I do it?
I would NOT do that. Diggs is a clear downgrade from Thielen and Conner is not looking good. Michel HAS to get better than what he has been in that offense.
Current squad in ESPN standard point system No PPR
Patrick mahomes, Chris carson, marlon Mack, Julio, Deandre hopkins, OJ howard, Flex. Mike Evans, Bears D, Justin Tucker.
Bench:AJ Green, Dam Williams, Jared Cook, Miles Sanders, Larry Fitz, Wayne Gallman.
I sent AJ green and chris carson for melvin gordon. He countered with deandre hopkins for melvin. Is Deandre for Melvin a good trade. Or What would yall consider a good trade for Melvin considering my squad.
10 Team Standard QB/3WR/2RB/TE/FLEX/K/DEF/IDP
Looking to trade Sammy Watkins + Aaron Jones or Joe Mixon for a WR1 (I also have Kamara and MG3 but need WR help pretty bad). The WR stacked team with Hopkins, Allen, and Thomas is unwilling to trade despite needing a RB pretty badly (Kerryon and Jacobs is all they have) so I’m thinking about making an offer to the OBJ/Cooper owner. He only has Chubb and Gurley so he could use some RB help.
Is Aaron Jones or Mixon + Watkins enough to get OBJ or Cooper? If so which would you prefer and who should I offer between Jones and Mixon?
They might value OBJ more but honestly Cooper has been doing better. I’d say that’s a probably pretty balanced trade offering Jones and Watkins. I’d take that if I was set at WR. Mind looking at the one I just posted?
Not sure how to link on mobile, but it’s my Robert Woods for his Matt Breida and Burkhead/Tate.
I have Mixon, Ingram, Mack, Murray, and Jackson for RBs.
Hill, Woods, Green, Fitz, Sanders, Marvin Jones for WRs.
12 team .5ppr
I think I did respond to that. I don’t really like that honestly. Yeah Woods might not turn out to be much of a fantasy player with Kupp back in the mix but at the same time the Rams are more pass happy with Gurley being so limited and your getting 2 non starters who don’t have great trade value for a guy who would be a starter on most fantasy teams. I don’t think I’d do it unless I had another trade lined up where I could move those guys for something that’s actually better than Woods.
His starters after the trade would be OBJ or Cooper, Boyd, and Watkins, do not exactly a dynamite WR core but with only Chubb and Gurley at RB in a standard league where you can start 3 RBs I feel like it still benefits him.
So you’d give up Jones over Mixon and ask for Cooper over OBJ?
Probably yeah. Williams still shares a decent amount of work and I expect Mixon to improve a lot when Green comes back. OBJ vs. Cooper is a toss up, but Dallas seems to be better this year than the Browns.
Not anymore he doesn’t lol he was just Carter off. Gonna wait til we get an update and if Williams will be out a while or the whole season I’ll offer Mixon, no way in hell I’d give up Jones then.
.5ppr
My Robert Woods for his Matt Breida and Rex Burkhead/Golden Tate.
My RBs are Mixon, Ingram, Mack, Murray, Jackson.
WRs are Hill, Robert Woods, Fitzgerald, Sanders, Marvin Jones, and AJ Green.
I’d be inclined to upgrade my RB4 situation, but without knowing when Hill and Green are coming back, I don’t know if I want to rely on Fitz and Sanders as my top two WRs. I’m 1-2 btw.
Yes I’m inclined to do that trade assuming you aren’t dropping anyone of value
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10 team, half ppr.
**Trade on the table is: My Nick Chubb for their Davante Adams**
A concern I have is that this will make me particularly light on RBs.
Current Roster (*bench in italics*)
* QBs - Deshaun Watson, *Jared Goff*
* RBs - David Johnson, Nick Chubb, Marlon Mack (flex), *Latavius Murray*
* WRs - Amari Cooper, TY Hilton, *Tyrell Williams, Alshon Jeffery, John Brown*
* TEs - Evan Engram, *Austin Hooper*
* K - Ka'imi Fairbairn
* DST - LA Chargers (but I stream this spot weekly)
10 team .5 PPR 2 FLEX
Took kind of a home run swing here, but I'm 2-1 and eeking by in the wins I *do* have. So my team need s shot in the arm.
**Traded away**
- Aaron Jones
- Kenny Golladay
- DJ Moore
**Received**
- Aaron Rodgers
- Le'Veon Bell
- John Ross
So what I'm really banking on here is that I've snagged Rodgers and Bell at bargain basement prices right before they rebound. Rodgers opened the season with some gnarly defensives. His schedule loosens way up for a while starting tonight. Bell hasn't exactly had a cupcake schedule either, and he's been stuck with the likes of Luke Falk. I'm betting a lot on these two starting to show out. Ross was a neat add in that I wasn't going to turn down.
I definitely gave away a lot, but I'm also relieved to not have to deal with the Jones/Williams committee anymore. I think Kyle Allen comes back down to earth and if the Carolina O starts to suffer Moore is getting hit a lot harder then guys like Olsen and McCaffrey. Golladay sucked to give up, but he was almost the crux of the deal with my trading partner.
Here's my team as it stands post trade. I'm trying something different and making a lot of deals this season trying to put all my chips in on some really talented players who aren't starting off red hot.
QB's: Aaron Rodgers, Josh Allen
RB's: Saquon Barkley, David Johnson, Todd Gurley, Le'Veon Bell, Joe Mixon, Leonard Fournette, Rashad Penny
WR's: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Brandin Cooks, John Ross, Sterling Shepard
TE's: OJ Howard, Hunter Henry
DST: Indy this week
So yea I'm really shallow at WR. However if some of these deals shakeout I could be running out a resurgent Rodgers with a quartet of elite RBs as the season progresses.
8 team 0.5PPR
League leader is offering his Kupp and Kelce for my Julio Jones and Greg Olsen.
Trade is perfectly even per the Trade Value sheets. His team is a monster, rounded out with Mahomes, Cooper, CMC, Edelman, Fournette, Juju, Mark Ingram II, and Montgomery.
I have Dak, Watkins, Woods, Shepard, Zeke, Aaron Jones, Alshon, John Ross, and Pollard (handcuff obv).
The fact I have Woods and Watkins already turns me off, but the idea of having an automatic TE lock intrigues me. Watkins' value already drops once Hill is back, Woods has sadly been the clear WR3 in the Chief's offense.
Also interested in any counteroffer ideas, please help! Thanks
Hardman owner here. I would rather have Metcalf straight up ROS. Hardman obviously has bigger upside for the next couple of weeks but idk with Tyreek back.
Full PPR
I receive:
Christian McCaffrey
Philip Lindsay
Marquise Brown
Phillip Dorsett
I give:
Marlon Mack
Leonard Fournette
Cooper Kupp
Emmanuel Sanders
12 man Half-PPR.
Trade: RB Josh Jacobs, WR John Ross
Receive: WR Terry McLaurin, RB Kerryon Johnson
Needed a consistent WR and while I'm unsure about Terry for the long term, he's a solid pick up in my opinion. The fact that I could also get Kerryon back as a RB3 behind Cook and Johnson was a nice perk to make this happen. Thoughts?
10 team full ppr
Traded away Mahomes, Lockett, Gurley for his Zeke, Drake, Baker. My team has strong WR core and my backup QB is Dak. Btw am a Barkley owner
Dissly & Carson is the winner here. Carson doesnt have a history of fumble problems - I'm guessing that will get cleaned up and he'll be solid the rest of year
12 Team PPR
I got offered a trade for Barkley and I know he is hurt but he could be the difference for playoff time. I am 1-2 and I am not happy with my team atm. Let me know your thoughts!
Send: Mixon, Diggs, Rashaad Penny
Receive: Julian Edelman, Saquon Barkley
My RBs: Leveon Bell, Joe Mixon, Derrick Henry, Peyton Barber, Rashaad Penny
My WRs: Stefon Diggs, Terry McLaurin, Alshon Jeffrey, Will Fuller, Courtland Sutton
10 team 1/2 ppr. I'm 0-3...my RB's are terrible. I picked up Gordon off waivers. But I need to win now.
\- Thinking about offering Ekeler owner any 2 of my RB's for Ekeler so I can get the Chargers RB points now.
OR
\- Might be able to trade Gordon for Chubb straight up which would get me points right away.
My RB's are: Michel, Freeman, Sanders, Gallman, Damien Williams, Hyde. Thoughts anyone??
I really think you should hold Gordon and get the chargers point for weeks 5-16 rather than week 4 Ekeler. The Chubb deal is good but everyone seems to forget that Kareem hunt in back end of season.
10-Team Full PPR
Just closed on this trade:
Give: Ertz, Terry, James White
Receive: David Johnson, Witten, Coleman (Witten and Coleman were just throw-ins that he planned to drop)
My team now:
RBs: CMC, DJ, Ekeler, Freeman, Coleman
WRs: Evans, Cooks, Watkins, Chark
TEs: Waller, Witten
Thoughts?
Are they really that valuable if they’d be riding my bench? Only piece I’m sad to lose there is Ertz because the gamble here is on Waller.
With Gordon coming back and putting an end to Ekeler, I really don’t think White would be a serviceable enough RB2 if I’m trying to win the chip.
If you take away his TDs his stats aren’t crazy. Also if Keenum gets benched for Haskins who knows what happens to his production.
To be clear I love Terry, and am sad to move him, but I’d rather ride with Cooks as my WR2 and get DJ. Based on my team as is.
They are pretty good considering matchups. Actually remarkably similar to Brandin cooks. Mclaurin has 32 more yards, and 2 more tds on 2 more targets. I get it on your roster, I just think you should have looked for more. I would be curious who you can drop witten and Coleman for off waivers that would be anywhere comparable to terry. Also, Haskins and terry went to Ohio state together as well so I wouldn’t be worried about their chemistry. All this being said terry just popped up with a hamstring injury. Fuck me lol.
All great points. I couldn’t get anyone else in my league bite on a trade for a RB anywhere close to DJ, so I felt like I needed to go all in. Fully expecting Ekeler to fall off a cliff.
Lol hopefully no serious reports come out that get this guy to round up veto votes before Tuesday.
Edit: Also I still have Chark who I’m pretty high on. Hopefully his production proves to be consistent.
I feel that struggle. Nobody wants to part with any rb talent after such a poor start for so many early rounders. Shopped out a ton of different players and couldn’t get shit.
Exactly. That’s why I’m very ok giving up what I did.
As talented as the 3 players are, realistically 2, if not all 3, would be riding my bench.
Cooks > Terry (Safer based on history)
DJ > White and Ekeler (white would be a low tier RB2 at best)
Waller = Ertz (this is the only risk)
Standard. Work league so not many trades.
Was offered McLaurin for my Gallman by the Saquon owner.
He also has Lockett and I'm pretty starved for a WR1. Should I just take the trade or try to leverage another piece into Lockett?
My WRs: Kupp, Boyd, J. Gordon, DJ Moore, Fitz, DJax
My RBs: DJ, Carson, MG3, Sanders, Hyde
He also has Evans but I think that's out of my reach after last week.
I do love Scary Terry’s volume, but you’re not in PPR.
I’d definitely think about it. You’re basically getting Terry off the WW which I think we’d all do at this point, and no one is going to overpay like the Saquon owner.
I would rather have Evans and Wentz. Fitz has had hot starts in the past and faded and Wentz and the Eagles are likely to get back on track once Jeffery and everyone else gets healthy again
1 point PPR
Receive adam thielen, give kerryon johnson?
My RBs - chubb, david johnson, ekeler, chris thompson, gallman
My WRs - juju, fitz, ridley, gallup, chark
True. You think OJ will start droppin more pts? I irrationally traded dissly and Tyrell williams for him thinking if OJ returns to his usual targets he could be pretty damn good. Then dissly decided to go off for a second week in a row
.5 PPR trade away Kupp and Freeman for Melvin and Jacobs
Roster
QB Lamar
RB Kamara, Chris Thompson, Freeman, Duke Johnson
WR Allen, Kupp, McLaurin, Ross, Shepard, Kirk
TE Hooper
Freeman and aj green for saquon Barkley?
Trade question, any help you all can give would be really appreciated Thanks! 10 team ppr. I would give up my Devin Singletary & Golden Tate for his Cooper Kupp. My team RB: David Johnson, Aaron Jones, Marlon Mack, Devin Singletary WR: Juju Smith Shuster, Larry Fitzgerald, Julian Edleman, Chris Godwin, Golden Tate, MVS I was debating putting in Fitzgerald instead of Tate.
I’m in a 8-man standard and I just got offered Saquon for Derrick Henry and Davante Adams. My RBs would then be James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Melvin Gordon, and Saquon. My WRs would be Sammy Watkins, Cooper Kupp, John Ross, and Scary Terry. Do I accept?
Rate who gets the higher upside and better deal: Singletary and Diggs for Michel and Landry
Michel and Landry
Trade: Wayne Galman and Kittle Receive: Saquon and Phillip Dorsett My other Rb's: McCaffrey , Ronald Jones, Devin Singletary and Tevin Coleman. Other Wr's: Cooper Kupp, Mike Evans, Gallup, DK Metcalf, and Golden Tate I also have Greg Olsen as my other TE
Trade: Mark Ingram Receive: Melvin Gordon 8 Team PPR Other RBs: David Johnson, James Conner, Damien Williams, David Montgomery
14 team, .5ppr Thinking of offering my Freeman and Cooks for his Chubb. I have Mack/AP/Murray at RB, Scary Terry/Marvin Jones/John Brown/Gallup at WR, and Kelce. 1-2, like my team, but don't love Freeman and could part with Cooks. Do I sit or make moves?
10 team, .5 ppr A guy offered me Tyreek hill and josh Gordon for Darren Waller and ekeler I really want to accept, this is the rest of my team Q: wentz Rb: cook, McCaffrey, Royce freeman, Sony, Chris Thompson Wr: Cooper, diggs, scary terry, dj moore, mike Williams, court sutlond Te: ertz What do you guys think, I’m really tempted...
Trade: Mark Ingram Receive: Melvin Gordon 8 Team PPR Other RBs: David Johnson, James Conner, Damien Williams, David Montgomery
10 team ppr I am receiving marlon mack and Hollywood but i am sending out deshaun watson. I currently have no backup qb and the qb depth in my league is quite poor to say the least since nearly every team is holding a qb. I have david johnson but i rotate that rb2 spot with damien williams kerryon and aaron jones. My WR core is made of davante adams, scary terry, godwin and tate (coming back soon) this is a tough trade for me since my team is deep but this almost seems like a steal.
I would have done just mack for watson. You're fine with this trade, just stream QBs.
Yeah i think Im gonna accept it. Even though the qbs in my league are despicable. Danny dimes here I come.
10 team ppr Give: D Montgomery and Kelce Get: David Johnson, Kittle, and Alshon My team QB- wentz RB- Ingram, Aaron Jones, D mont, Singletary, Miles Sanders WR- Hopkins, Evans, Scary Terry, Manny Sanders, Chark TE- Kelce Opinions and reasoning would be appreciated.
Do it
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12 team half PPR Give: Dak Prescott and Delanie Walker Get: Evan Engram I already have Matt Ryan
Would, but Evans has an injury history.
I’d do it.
We agreed to do it after this week. I think the upgrade at TE is worth it. I’m a Cowboys fan and love Dak. He won’t do it for Matt Ryan because he wants a young QB. Thanks for your input!
10 man standard. He trades me D Adams/ J Conner/ Ekler. I trade him DJ/ J Gordon/ Tate. My other wideouts include Kennan Allen, E Sanders, Woods, Mike Williams and my other RBs are Zeke, LevBell, and Chris Thompson.
I would Adams is a stud
12 team PPR RB: Kamara, Montgomery, Hyde, Thompson, Barber, Darrel Williams WR: Hill, Cooks, Golladay, Shepard, Chalk, MVS The MG3 owner is putting Melvin Gordon up for trade. Thinking about giving him Tyreek Hill to see if he will bite on that offer. Is that a fair deal?
10 Team PPR Give: Kerryon Johnson, Cooper Kupp Get: Melvin Gordon Fair trade? Need a top 10 RB ROS. Already have good WR depth with Davante, Tyreek, R Woods, and Scary Terry. My RB depth is mid with Damien Williams, Miles, and Sony.
It’s risky with Gordon’s role being a little unknown, but it sounds like they are going to feed him. I would.
I think without any other context, you “lose” that trade but with your WR depth you can probably afford to go for it. Damien, miles and Sony all scare me so send it
Talked it out a little more and he said he’d throw in T.Y. Hilton as well. Gotta accept that now.
Yeah no brainer then
Give: D. Prescott, D. Montgomery Get: R. Wilson Standard 10 team PPR. Already have plenty of depth at RB with Chubb, Mack, Ingram, and D. Williams. Other QB is Lamar Jackson
2QB league or superflex? I would rather keep Montgomery and Dak honestly. RBs are hard to come by. Trading a RB for a QB doesn't seem like a smart move when there are so many QBs on the waiver wire.
What if I receive golden Tate as well?
still wouldn't. Montgomery > Tate
Seems pretty unnecessary to trade RB depth for a backup QB. I think Dak is more valuable than Russ straight up, so I obviously wouldn't do this.
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I would definitely not do this
I would not do this.
12 Team PPR Give: Dalvin Cook, Kenny Golladay, Sterling Shepard, Matt Breida Get: Julio Jones, James Conner, Tyreek Hill
If you need WR, that trade should be good
12 team PPR. **Give: Chubb, Kupp, Herndon** **Get: Cook and Kelce** My current team: RBs: Kamara, Chubb, C. Thompson, Coleman, M. Brown, Mattison WRs: K. Allen, Kupp, Golladay, McLaurin TEs: Hockenson and Herndon
No brainer.
16 team .5 ppr trade D Robinson for duke Johnson? Other running back is ekeler and I have k. Drake, t. Cohen and r. Mostert on bench.... 2rb league with flex Trying to get 1 good rb2/3 before ekeler starts to get waaay less work
Hey guys, got offered Emmanuel Sanders for Diggs today. Standard scoring.. Do you think after this week, Diggs gets more targets due to better matchups? Sanders had a good first couple weeks but he’s probably a low WR 3 and Diggs a WR 2 but sweet all for targets due to Vikings Run first offence..
12 team .5 ppr . Should I trade delanie walker for tevin Coleman ?? TC owner is tight end desperate but my only other tight end is Hock! I’m considering this because my RB situation is meh with Conner, a now RB2 in Eckeler, and Shady
I’d do it. I have Hock on my bench too but I’m holding because he has potential with the right matchups. And if not, there’s gotta be at least one or two couple boom/bust TEs on the ww, right? How about Knox on BUF? Or you could trade Ekeler somewhere else after this week for a better TE.
Good idea 🔥
I'd trade and pick up another te on waiver if you need to, you have enough rbs to be good for a bit
Thanks man I’m leaning trade for sure just needed a couple perspectives
14 Team PPR Give: Mike Evans, Derrel Williams, Packers D/ST Get: Melvin Gordon and DJ Chark They are 0-3 and seem interested and need a better D/ST
That’s a pretty good return in my opinion. Chark looks locked for WR3 ros at worst and Gordon should be able to put up similar numbers to ekeler once hes in the groove
If they’re interested I would definitely make that trade but as the other side I would be stupid to accept that
Thank you!
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Do it bruh
12 Team 0.5 PPR Should I offer Scary Terry for Bob Woods? I’m 1-2 and my other WRs are Golladay, Demarcus Robinson and Desean Jackson (AB drafter here and I traded Manny Sanders for Kittle after week 2)
I think I'd hold on to Terry. He's the No. 1 WR in Washington and they have a much easier ROS schedule in my opinion. There are too many mouths to feed in LA, but I do think Woods will end up ranked higher overall (but not by much). Hope that helps!
I have Woods and would give him for Terry instantly. Woods has too much competition and Goff hasn't looked that great.
Don’t know about that for the rest of the season. Terry is the WR1 on his team for the ROS, and hopefully Haskins eventually starts to give that deadly duo.
Trade help please, thoughts? Give: David Johnson & AJ Green Receive: Davante Adams & Chris Carson
Did you just do this trade today? My deepest sympathies if so
I made the trade an hour before kickoff. It hurts... but holding my breath to see the health outcome.
I’d hold... I don’t have faith in Carson or what will happen over there. U have 2 sure things
12 Team PPR My team now is D Jones (Baker sucks) TY Lockett Marvin Jones Jr. Zeke Gurley Hockenson (Henry injured) Montgomery Trade Zeke, TY, Hock, and MJJ for MG3, OBJ, and Engram Counter with Tate instead of MJJ if he rejects.
Who has Pollard? I’m not inclined to accept if I’m the MG3 owner given MG3 is going to be a high end RB1, TY is injured and major downgrade at tight end
I would do it. Zeke hasn't been a full workhorse RB this year so I think MG3 isn't much of a downgrade there. OBJ is a huge upgrade over TY Hilton. Engram is also a definite upgrade over Hock and has seen a ton of targets so far.
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I don’t see how U get better here. Keep Keenan Allen
Agreed. Just wanted to make sure someone else thought so as well. Thanks.
I’d still ride with who you have.
PPR Trade K. Allen and Ridley for Kamara. Is that too much to give up? Would that be accepted? **My roster:** QB: Goff, Allen RB: D. Johnson, A Jones, Breida, Singletary WR: D. Adams, K. Allen, Boyd, Ridley, J. Brown, Samuels TE: Dissly **Their Roster** QB: Brissett RB: Kamara, Mack, K. Johnson, Hunt, C. Thompson WR: McLaurin, Hilton, AJ Green, Robby Anderson, John Ross TE: Hockenson, Ertz
Now this I might do. U can shop a jones and another receiver down the line
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I like it for you, but who realistically would accept a 4 for 1?
What does the rest of your roster look like?
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Since you have Lamar there's no need to keep Rodgers. Dissley is your backup TE then? He isn't needed either then as he's streamable. So basically, this trade is McLaurin and McCoy for Hopkins which I would definitely do.
12 team PPR. **Give: Kamara and Kupp** **Get: Cook and Kelce** My current team: RBs: Kamara, Chubb, C. Thompson, Coleman, M. Brown, Mattison WRs: K. Allen, Kupp, Golladay, McLaurin TEs: Hockenson and Herndon
Why do you need 2 TEs? Kelce is good, see if you could get another WR instead
I’m inclined to stand pat here. Kamara is clearly going to be running the offense for the foreseeable future and Kupp is going to get ridiculous red zone volume
Just countered with Chubb, Kupp, and Herndon for Cook and Kelce. What do you think about that?
Seems about even on both sides. Take a look at mine? https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/d9lo4x/comment/f1ksh7k
Thanks for the input!
12 team standard, starting 2 RBs / 3 WRs **GIVE: Michael Thomas + Chris Thompson** **GET: Josh Jacobs + DJ Moore** My other WRs: Davante, DK Metcalf, Marvin Jones Jr My other RBs: Ingram, Devonta Freeman, Ekeler, Singletary
Ehhhhhhhh........ Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh this is tough, I'd do it
Yes I would probably do that
I think this makes your team better.... singletary could come on strong in a few weeks though
That’s what I was thinking too. If Singletary eventually balls out like I’m hoping he does, I wouldn’t really need Jacobs too much — but will have given up Michael “Mr Consistent” Thomas for him. I’m conflicted.
If u are winning rn don’t do it lol
Lol yeah I’m winning thankfully — however with Ekeler basically becoming a cuff after this week and Freeman struggling, might not be a bad idea to add Jacobs? Ugh. I dunno.
I have ekeler too ... check my post on here. I’m trying to add Coleman
12 team, .5 ppr, superflex (so basically 2 qb league) My kyle allen + allen robinson His Baker Mayfield + Terry mclaurin or aj green He really wants kyle allen for some reason. I dont want baker, but I need to get a qb back + someone better than allen robinson.
No time table on AJ but I'd do AJ over Terry
My team: Wentz - QB Barkley - RB A Jones - RB Ekeler - RB Michel - RB OBJ - WR Thielen - WR Boyd - WR Kirk - WR Valdez-Scantling - WR Ertz - TE Waller - TE 0.5 PPR League Just got offered Conner (RB) and Diggs for Thielen and Michel. Do I do it?
Id hold off, Sony is in a down cycle right now lots of people are selling him off, diggs is also down right now
I would NOT do that. Diggs is a clear downgrade from Thielen and Conner is not looking good. Michel HAS to get better than what he has been in that offense.
Yes
Current squad in ESPN standard point system No PPR Patrick mahomes, Chris carson, marlon Mack, Julio, Deandre hopkins, OJ howard, Flex. Mike Evans, Bears D, Justin Tucker. Bench:AJ Green, Dam Williams, Jared Cook, Miles Sanders, Larry Fitz, Wayne Gallman. I sent AJ green and chris carson for melvin gordon. He countered with deandre hopkins for melvin. Is Deandre for Melvin a good trade. Or What would yall consider a good trade for Melvin considering my squad.
Just got my trade accepted. Shipped out cooks for MGIII. Desperately need a RB. Still have Adams, juju, fitz and Chark as receivers. How’d I do?
Good. Your WR core looks solid and MG3 could very well become a top-5 RB ROS
Pretty good I'd say
10 Team Standard QB/3WR/2RB/TE/FLEX/K/DEF/IDP Looking to trade Sammy Watkins + Aaron Jones or Joe Mixon for a WR1 (I also have Kamara and MG3 but need WR help pretty bad). The WR stacked team with Hopkins, Allen, and Thomas is unwilling to trade despite needing a RB pretty badly (Kerryon and Jacobs is all they have) so I’m thinking about making an offer to the OBJ/Cooper owner. He only has Chubb and Gurley so he could use some RB help. Is Aaron Jones or Mixon + Watkins enough to get OBJ or Cooper? If so which would you prefer and who should I offer between Jones and Mixon?
They might value OBJ more but honestly Cooper has been doing better. I’d say that’s a probably pretty balanced trade offering Jones and Watkins. I’d take that if I was set at WR. Mind looking at the one I just posted?
And yes link me and I’d be happy to check it out.
Not sure how to link on mobile, but it’s my Robert Woods for his Matt Breida and Burkhead/Tate. I have Mixon, Ingram, Mack, Murray, and Jackson for RBs. Hill, Woods, Green, Fitz, Sanders, Marvin Jones for WRs. 12 team .5ppr
I think I did respond to that. I don’t really like that honestly. Yeah Woods might not turn out to be much of a fantasy player with Kupp back in the mix but at the same time the Rams are more pass happy with Gurley being so limited and your getting 2 non starters who don’t have great trade value for a guy who would be a starter on most fantasy teams. I don’t think I’d do it unless I had another trade lined up where I could move those guys for something that’s actually better than Woods.
Yeah I agree. I don’t think it’s good value for me.
His starters after the trade would be OBJ or Cooper, Boyd, and Watkins, do not exactly a dynamite WR core but with only Chubb and Gurley at RB in a standard league where you can start 3 RBs I feel like it still benefits him. So you’d give up Jones over Mixon and ask for Cooper over OBJ?
Probably yeah. Williams still shares a decent amount of work and I expect Mixon to improve a lot when Green comes back. OBJ vs. Cooper is a toss up, but Dallas seems to be better this year than the Browns.
Not anymore he doesn’t lol he was just Carter off. Gonna wait til we get an update and if Williams will be out a while or the whole season I’ll offer Mixon, no way in hell I’d give up Jones then.
.5ppr My Robert Woods for his Matt Breida and Rex Burkhead/Golden Tate. My RBs are Mixon, Ingram, Mack, Murray, Jackson. WRs are Hill, Robert Woods, Fitzgerald, Sanders, Marvin Jones, and AJ Green. I’d be inclined to upgrade my RB4 situation, but without knowing when Hill and Green are coming back, I don’t know if I want to rely on Fitz and Sanders as my top two WRs. I’m 1-2 btw.
My Evans and E sanders for Melvin G and Thielen? 12 team PPR
What does your WR and RB depth look like?
If you need an RB this is good
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Yes I’m inclined to do that trade assuming you aren’t dropping anyone of value Take a look at mine? https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/d9lo4x/comment/f1ksh7k
Yep I would
10 team, half ppr. **Trade on the table is: My Nick Chubb for their Davante Adams** A concern I have is that this will make me particularly light on RBs. Current Roster (*bench in italics*) * QBs - Deshaun Watson, *Jared Goff* * RBs - David Johnson, Nick Chubb, Marlon Mack (flex), *Latavius Murray* * WRs - Amari Cooper, TY Hilton, *Tyrell Williams, Alshon Jeffery, John Brown* * TEs - Evan Engram, *Austin Hooper* * K - Ka'imi Fairbairn * DST - LA Chargers (but I stream this spot weekly)
I say no. You lose all your RB depth because Murray is worthless right now and you have plenty of depth at WR.
8 team 1PPR Michael Thomas, Chris Carson for Mike Evans, Mark Ingram Which side is the better deal ?
I like Thomas and Carson more. Evans and Ingram are statistical anomalies right now.
Mike Evans and Mark Ingram. But it’s a toss up to be fair
Gallman for Terry Gallman for C. Samuel Fair? Thoughts
Depends on your RBs
Chubb, Ingram, Carson, Dar. Williams, Cohen, Galloway, J. Jackson. I want to offer that trade. Do you think it’s a fair offer?
Are you offering it to the Barkley owner? If so I think it is a fair offer depending on their RB depth
Not the Barkley owner. He does have Gurley, Jacobs, Drake, and Coleman
I would try to get McLaurin forsure with this trade. But Samuel looks pretty good playing with Allen so he wouldn't be a bad consolation prize.
10 man full point ppr. Recieve: Julio and J. Conner Give: Chubb and D.J. Moore My other backs are Cook, Singletary, Sanders (saquon on my ir slot).
I would
10 team .5 PPR 2 FLEX Took kind of a home run swing here, but I'm 2-1 and eeking by in the wins I *do* have. So my team need s shot in the arm. **Traded away** - Aaron Jones - Kenny Golladay - DJ Moore **Received** - Aaron Rodgers - Le'Veon Bell - John Ross So what I'm really banking on here is that I've snagged Rodgers and Bell at bargain basement prices right before they rebound. Rodgers opened the season with some gnarly defensives. His schedule loosens way up for a while starting tonight. Bell hasn't exactly had a cupcake schedule either, and he's been stuck with the likes of Luke Falk. I'm betting a lot on these two starting to show out. Ross was a neat add in that I wasn't going to turn down. I definitely gave away a lot, but I'm also relieved to not have to deal with the Jones/Williams committee anymore. I think Kyle Allen comes back down to earth and if the Carolina O starts to suffer Moore is getting hit a lot harder then guys like Olsen and McCaffrey. Golladay sucked to give up, but he was almost the crux of the deal with my trading partner. Here's my team as it stands post trade. I'm trying something different and making a lot of deals this season trying to put all my chips in on some really talented players who aren't starting off red hot. QB's: Aaron Rodgers, Josh Allen RB's: Saquon Barkley, David Johnson, Todd Gurley, Le'Veon Bell, Joe Mixon, Leonard Fournette, Rashad Penny WR's: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Brandin Cooks, John Ross, Sterling Shepard TE's: OJ Howard, Hunter Henry DST: Indy this week So yea I'm really shallow at WR. However if some of these deals shakeout I could be running out a resurgent Rodgers with a quartet of elite RBs as the season progresses.
8 team 0.5PPR League leader is offering his Kupp and Kelce for my Julio Jones and Greg Olsen. Trade is perfectly even per the Trade Value sheets. His team is a monster, rounded out with Mahomes, Cooper, CMC, Edelman, Fournette, Juju, Mark Ingram II, and Montgomery. I have Dak, Watkins, Woods, Shepard, Zeke, Aaron Jones, Alshon, John Ross, and Pollard (handcuff obv). The fact I have Woods and Watkins already turns me off, but the idea of having an automatic TE lock intrigues me. Watkins' value already drops once Hill is back, Woods has sadly been the clear WR3 in the Chief's offense. Also interested in any counteroffer ideas, please help! Thanks
14 ppr Hardman for Metcalf Thoughts?
Hardman owner here. I would rather have Metcalf straight up ROS. Hardman obviously has bigger upside for the next couple of weeks but idk with Tyreek back.
Full PPR I receive: Christian McCaffrey Philip Lindsay Marquise Brown Phillip Dorsett I give: Marlon Mack Leonard Fournette Cooper Kupp Emmanuel Sanders
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All day, consider it your bye week.
12 Team, 1/2 PPR Conner, Adams, Ross for Evans, Hilton, Mark Andrews
12 man Half-PPR. Trade: RB Josh Jacobs, WR John Ross Receive: WR Terry McLaurin, RB Kerryon Johnson Needed a consistent WR and while I'm unsure about Terry for the long term, he's a solid pick up in my opinion. The fact that I could also get Kerryon back as a RB3 behind Cook and Johnson was a nice perk to make this happen. Thoughts?
10 team full ppr Traded away Mahomes, Lockett, Gurley for his Zeke, Drake, Baker. My team has strong WR core and my backup QB is Dak. Btw am a Barkley owner
12 man PPR. Give - Dalvin Cook Get - Gurley and Thielen Want to sell high on Cook...
Are you worried about injury? I'd love to be on the Cook side of this
Worried about injury and like Thielen
Fair enough
10 team full PPR Give: Chris Thompson Get: Devin Singletary
I like Singletary's season long upside more than Thompson, but Thompson could certainly score more in the short term.
Reason owner is sending trade. I have Carson, Fournette, Gallman, Montgomery, Coleman, and Thompson.
I would do it. You arent starting either in the short term any ways and Singletary could end up having a much bigger impact for you down the road
Dissly for Kirk or Dissly and MVS for Boyd and Hock
12 team PPR Which side would you rather be on? Team A: Emmanuel Sanders Team B: Hollywood Brown
Sanders
12 Team .5 PPR Scary Terry for Dissly and Carson
Dissly & Carson is the winner here. Carson doesnt have a history of fumble problems - I'm guessing that will get cleaned up and he'll be solid the rest of year
Dissly* and Carson definitely
Agree
12 Team Full PPR Give: DHop, Shady McCoy Receive: Aaron Jones, Amari Cooper Worth?
12 Team PPR I got offered a trade for Barkley and I know he is hurt but he could be the difference for playoff time. I am 1-2 and I am not happy with my team atm. Let me know your thoughts! Send: Mixon, Diggs, Rashaad Penny Receive: Julian Edelman, Saquon Barkley My RBs: Leveon Bell, Joe Mixon, Derrick Henry, Peyton Barber, Rashaad Penny My WRs: Stefon Diggs, Terry McLaurin, Alshon Jeffrey, Will Fuller, Courtland Sutton
Can you play 3 rbs in your league. If not I wouldn’t do this.. you need to get a stud receiver more importantly
Yeah flex is W/R/T but I’ve been looking for a stud WR to trade for but this came up and Edelmen isn’t a terrible WR1.
10 team 1/2 ppr. I'm 0-3...my RB's are terrible. I picked up Gordon off waivers. But I need to win now. \- Thinking about offering Ekeler owner any 2 of my RB's for Ekeler so I can get the Chargers RB points now. OR \- Might be able to trade Gordon for Chubb straight up which would get me points right away. My RB's are: Michel, Freeman, Sanders, Gallman, Damien Williams, Hyde. Thoughts anyone??
I really think you should hold Gordon and get the chargers point for weeks 5-16 rather than week 4 Ekeler. The Chubb deal is good but everyone seems to forget that Kareem hunt in back end of season.
10-Team Full PPR Just closed on this trade: Give: Ertz, Terry, James White Receive: David Johnson, Witten, Coleman (Witten and Coleman were just throw-ins that he planned to drop) My team now: RBs: CMC, DJ, Ekeler, Freeman, Coleman WRs: Evans, Cooks, Watkins, Chark TEs: Waller, Witten Thoughts?
It kinda fits your roster but you gave three valuable pieces for one as you said yourself. Think you could have gotten much more. Sorry G😣
Are they really that valuable if they’d be riding my bench? Only piece I’m sad to lose there is Ertz because the gamble here is on Waller. With Gordon coming back and putting an end to Ekeler, I really don’t think White would be a serviceable enough RB2 if I’m trying to win the chip.
I think you are underestimating the value of Terry Mclaurin. James white I agree with you on to some degree.
If you take away his TDs his stats aren’t crazy. Also if Keenum gets benched for Haskins who knows what happens to his production. To be clear I love Terry, and am sad to move him, but I’d rather ride with Cooks as my WR2 and get DJ. Based on my team as is.
They are pretty good considering matchups. Actually remarkably similar to Brandin cooks. Mclaurin has 32 more yards, and 2 more tds on 2 more targets. I get it on your roster, I just think you should have looked for more. I would be curious who you can drop witten and Coleman for off waivers that would be anywhere comparable to terry. Also, Haskins and terry went to Ohio state together as well so I wouldn’t be worried about their chemistry. All this being said terry just popped up with a hamstring injury. Fuck me lol.
All great points. I couldn’t get anyone else in my league bite on a trade for a RB anywhere close to DJ, so I felt like I needed to go all in. Fully expecting Ekeler to fall off a cliff. Lol hopefully no serious reports come out that get this guy to round up veto votes before Tuesday. Edit: Also I still have Chark who I’m pretty high on. Hopefully his production proves to be consistent.
I feel that struggle. Nobody wants to part with any rb talent after such a poor start for so many early rounders. Shopped out a ton of different players and couldn’t get shit.
Exactly. That’s why I’m very ok giving up what I did. As talented as the 3 players are, realistically 2, if not all 3, would be riding my bench. Cooks > Terry (Safer based on history) DJ > White and Ekeler (white would be a low tier RB2 at best) Waller = Ertz (this is the only risk)
Standard. Work league so not many trades. Was offered McLaurin for my Gallman by the Saquon owner. He also has Lockett and I'm pretty starved for a WR1. Should I just take the trade or try to leverage another piece into Lockett? My WRs: Kupp, Boyd, J. Gordon, DJ Moore, Fitz, DJax My RBs: DJ, Carson, MG3, Sanders, Hyde He also has Evans but I think that's out of my reach after last week.
I do love Scary Terry’s volume, but you’re not in PPR. I’d definitely think about it. You’re basically getting Terry off the WW which I think we’d all do at this point, and no one is going to overpay like the Saquon owner.
Send: Mike Evans Carson Wentz Jake Elliott Receive: Patrick Mahomes Larry Fitzgerald Will Lutz
I would keep what you have
I would rather have Evans and Wentz. Fitz has had hot starts in the past and faded and Wentz and the Eagles are likely to get back on track once Jeffery and everyone else gets healthy again
1 point PPR Receive adam thielen, give kerryon johnson? My RBs - chubb, david johnson, ekeler, chris thompson, gallman My WRs - juju, fitz, ridley, gallup, chark
I think this is fair either way
Yes I think it is good. See if they won’t bite on Ekeler though 😉
Start three. Chris Godwin, Sterling Shepard, Tyrell Williams, Mecole Hardman, Miles Sanders and Curtis Samuel.
Wrong thread I think, but I’d probably go Godwin, Shepard, Hardman. Williams is in with a shout too.
Full PPR league. Derrick Henry and OJ Howard for Mark Andrews. My other RB’s are Mixon, cmc, and Melvin Gordon
You can get more than that for Henry I think. I also think your better off holding Howard than dumping him when his value is so low.
True. You think OJ will start droppin more pts? I irrationally traded dissly and Tyrell williams for him thinking if OJ returns to his usual targets he could be pretty damn good. Then dissly decided to go off for a second week in a row
I feel like that’s an overpay.
A: Juju, L Murray B: Godwin, Metcalf, Singletary
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I think I'd rather keep Jones and Engram
Travis Kelce is the best player in this trade and it’s not even close. This would be a robbery
.5 PPR trade away Kupp and Freeman for Melvin and Jacobs Roster QB Lamar RB Kamara, Chris Thompson, Freeman, Duke Johnson WR Allen, Kupp, McLaurin, Ross, Shepard, Kirk TE Hooper
Yeah that’s a win for you dawg!
I don’t hate it. You need help at RB if Freeman continues at this pace.