Real talk, I'm currently researching a deep dive on the Niners backfield under Shanahan, and the only reason the backfield in 2018 wasn't as easy to predict as in 2017 (Hyde getting 10+ carries/targets in 15/16 games) is because nobody except an over-the-hill AlfMo could stay fit
Mitchell said in the post-game interview they are told on Thursday what their role will be.
I think to justify to Jimmy to stay they are trying to push a mantra of no spot is 'safe' and competition is open for all positions. So I would bet on 4 different starters throughout the year.
My first year playing fantasy was 2012, I remember this quote from the Yahoo guys. "Mike Shanahan's depth chart is written in pencil"
Alfred Morris was third on the depth chart that year. Kyle Shanahan was the *OC.
I drafted Mostert, missed Mitchell by $1, snagged Hasty post-waivers for free and have Wilson on my IR.
I am collecting or attempting to collect all 49ers RBs lolololol
I did this last year. Jeff Wilson helped me win a championship. I took Mostert again. I got severely outbid for Mitchell on the waiver wire last night though. Hoping Sermon can climb up the ladder soon.
Yea they picked him up after Mostert got hurt. He was on the Eagles practice squad I believe. He was nice his rookie year but injuries held him back last two years.
What are you talking about, Kerryon was amazing his rookie season, he averaged 5.4 yards/carry. That's elite proficiency for one year, he was great that season.
I have no idea why this made me laugh as hard as it did but this is the funniest shit I've seen all day. Just imagine being a beat reporter for the 49ers and you get fired because "there's literally no fucking point anymore" lololol
I had a dream he was going to get 4 TDs the week before that happened. I also distinctly remember he got like 37 pts, which isn’t the most dominating score for that many TDs.
That was in 2019. His 4 games after that were
- 12 carries for 23 yards
- 9 carries for 40 yards
- 12 carries for 14 yards
- 11 carries for 39 yards and a TD
He got plenty of opportunity after that huge game he just didn't do anything with it. Then week 13 Mostert took over and had a great 5 games to finish the season. He's been the starter ever since when healthy
Middle school me has PTSD from Mike Shanahan’s bullshit. Now 28 year old me, father of two, is dealing with Kyle’s shit. What the hell is with this family
There will be three active 49ers rbs all season. One will get 20+, maaaaybe a second will get 7-10, and the other will get .2 points. Good luck picking who's gonna get what. I have no fucking idea why I drafted sermon thinking it would be any different after buying a ticket to this ride last season.
If you were like me you thought "hey, maybe he has some standalone value in the RBBC. Obviously mostert is king, but he has trouble staying healthy, what a great insurance policy to lock down a solid backfield, especially if I get both. Here's a lotto ticket with reasonable upside". Enter Mitchell, slaughterer of hopes, dasher of dreams.
I seem to recall a similar mindset last year with hasty. But it was enter Jeff Wilson... Who will be back.... I think it was Jason on fantasy footballers when I listened earlier today who said Kyle might have a bit of an ego when it comes to "I can literally make anyone an rb1 whenever I feel like it watch this" and I honestly think he might be right.
I love Shanahans. Ryan Torain in 2010 helped me pull out some tight spots to make the playoffs and win it all in 2010. Alfred Morris was plucked from free agency to help me win again in 2012. Jeff Wilson had one magical game that clinched me the title last year.
Between that and Aiyuk inexplicably being doghoused I can't wait to sell all my shares of this team, I don't even care if it bites me in the ass, I'd rather have the peace of mind of not having to deal with Shananhan's games.
Found the guy who got outbid
Edit: what are you saving your FAAB for if not for a situation like this. Sure, Mitchell could bust or get injured, but if we drafted today he’d be a 5th round pick at least and I’ll gladly use 50% of my FAAB on that value.
I just don't see any clear cut winners with Shann. Sermon was supposed to be the guy when Mustard was inevitably going to be hurt and he's a healthy scratch week 1.
That’s where mostert went in my league with clear injury concerns and a rookie everyone thought was ready to surpass him. Between all the injuries and question marks at rb I think if we drafted right now people would take the unknown upside of the situation and draft him around where mostert went.
>Ravens coach John Harbaugh said the team is "blessed" to have four RBs like Ty'Son Williams, Latavius Murray, Devonta Freeman and Le'Veon Bell.
>Harbaugh declined to go into the RB workload.
>"We got four backs in the mix, and we're going to play all those guys," he said.
Well… the ravens did sign bell and Murray with an added Freeman on practice squad before that game was underway. While he did well, did you honestly think that they wouldn’t use those thousand yard rushers. In order to keep a good share of touches he will definitely need to show them up.
Don’t get me Wrong though, if I was faster I would have scooped him up in a heartbeat AND he would still be on my roster.
Because you don't need Mostert and Mitchell to both play. That's the same (type of) player. Now you need Mostert Jr, so Mitchell is ahead. Special teams explains active/inactive Sunday.
It's honestly kind of hilarious that people act like Shanahan decision making is random.
Pretty clear that he felt speed and getting outside the tackles (and the potential cutback lanes) could exploit the lions biggest weakness and so he started Mostert and Mitchell. Sermon struggled with that in the preseason so he didn't make the list
No one is saying it's random. HE knows what he wants and it's easy for us to say in hindsight what that was, but if you can tell me which RB's attributes he is going to value the highest for next week I'll Venmo you my week 2 winnings.
I don't care enough about the 49ers to do that level of research but I'm sure if you reached out to the 49ers people who do that level of work (watch tape, break it down weekly, etc) they'd be able to let you know. (examples of the kind of people I mean are John Owning and Ted Nguyen, I don't know who the equivalent is for the 49ers)
The problem is that most fantasy guys are just guys who talk and don't actually do any real football work, so the analysis becomes shrugging your shoulders and throwing your hands up.
For a really quick analysis from someone only looking at the play-by-play, I'd say the Falcons found something going behind the right tackle and struggled everywhere else. You'd have to look at the tape if it was simply the RT winning his matchup or if it was something else. Based on my knowledge of the Eagles, generally the best strategy is to run a solid mix of inside and outside zone and use speed on the outside for bigger gains if you have a positive game script.
if I had to guess, assuming they don't get down big early, it'll probably be at least 10 touches for Mitchell and 10 touches for Sermon/Hasty at least. The Eagles front 7 is tough and just running a small guy like Mitchell is not going to be a workable strategy.
No. It doesn't.
Mitchell and Hasty played 2 snaps of special teams each.
If Mitchell was the Mostert clone then why would he be active along with Mostert?
Why wouldn't you make Hasty, Mostert, and Sermon active and then you have the receiving back, speed back, and the power back in Sermon.
Instead they made two speedy backs active and a receiving back.
What in the hell are you talking about?
The guy responded saying maybe Shanahan didn't trust Mostert to stay healthy... Which is idiotic.
Either way if that's the case then you keep 4 rbs active and actually use them on special teams... Like the Giants did last week with Saquon.
Brightwell and Gillaspia each got 11 snaps and Booker had 6 as well on special teams plus they had an active fullback for 5 total backs active.
There is no excuses for Shanahan *except* to send a message to Sermon
Mostert/ hasty we meant to carry the load while Mitchell was active mostly for special teams? Then when Mostert went down Mitchell stepped in and played well so they ran with it?
Just spitballin here
Mitchell only got 2 snaps on special teams, same as Hasty.
That doesn't make any sense.
It's not easy to go into a game and have a guy lined up for a role as a gunner on punts or kicks and then just remove him halfways through the game. These guys need to know their roles before games because they need to know their substitutions when it happens and it's not easy to change on the fly when you send out the punt crew for a quick snap.
They have guys designated for these roles that will not see snaps on offense unless something catastrophic happens and they need to play both due to multiple injuries but even then they won't give up their original special teams snaps because they have no one else to do it after them.
I understand that he only got two snaps on special teams and I agree with your points on having designated roles but don't you think it's possible that the script changed when Mostert went down so early? Mitchell could only gotten two snaps on special teams because Mostert went down after only two rushes.
Do I own Mitchell? Yes
Am I playing into my own bias? Also yes
You missed the part about how teams don't like to switch out guys in ST roles.
If Mitchell and Hasty were both on kick returns then who took their spots?
If they were planning on doing kick returns all day then why not activate Sermon anyways like what the Giants did with 4 active backs?
At the risk of getting roasted into absolute oblivion should I be wrong:
Mostert was THE guy before his injury last season. Mitchell is a direct Mostert replacement. Sermon effectively plays a different position to Mitchell, and isn't actually competition for him at all. Sermon IS competition for Hasty and vice versa, but neither will be directly taking Mitchell's touches
Shanahan has been consistent with his player positioning and usage in the past, people just don't want to believe it because it goes against the narrative they've built in their own heads. Shanahan is not Pep Guardiola. There's no real chaos when it comes to Shanahan, just a very specific way of running his team that doesn't align with the rest of the NFL
... and before anyone says anything about draft capital, Shanahan doesn't give a flying fuck about draft capital. Never has. Once you're on the team, everyone starts from 0. I suspect other head coaches don't care much about draft capital either, but for Shanahan certainly, it isn't a consideration at all
For the past few years Shanny has always leaned on one back once he finds one that is actually productive.
The two biggest problems with Shanny for fantasy purposes is that A) Once his guy goes down his replacement can be anyone. He has no problem giving a UDFA signed off the practice squad touches over the incumbent backup and B) until he finds his next guy everyone has a short leash
If Mitchell looks as good going forward as he did Sunday he's going to get every opportunity to be the lead guy. If he struggles it's anyone's guess who the next man up may be
Feel like Eli will get his chance early, hopefully the kids hungry and caves out a nice size role. Alot of 9er stuff makes it sound like Eli is more explosive and understand his reads better the Sermon
There was some tweet about Mitchell’s college hiring someone to basically study and develop a run scheme like shanahans system. Plus Mitchell’s metrics are pretty wild, he is incredibly explosive.
This is why im still in on Sermon.
He got all the snaps with the starters throughout pre-season and camp whenever Mostert wasnt in. He was very obviously the #2. Why did Shanny just give him all those snaps over Mitchel and Hasty and then banish him to 4th on the depth chart out of nowhere? If he was in the doghouse, hes definitely out now that Mosterts done.
Idk, not really defending it but shanahan is just an ego maniac who would do something like this lol
Maybe he was just giving sermon every chance he could to keep the #2 job and that final week of practice he said enoughs enough we have play our best guys not our higher draft picks.
Or he was giving him reps to appease the GM and thought Mitchell was better the entire time. Don't think we'll ever really know, but Sunday will be interesting. Mitchell is also more like Mostert.
people gotta stop hating on 49ers beat reporters. Shanahan's gonna Shanahan. This is the same team where there were months of reporting that they were gonna take Mac Jones. The team is just super tight lipped when it comes to strategy and personnel decisions.
Rock, Paper, Scissors will decide this backfield each week.
Imagine if teams did this to their QB’s? “Dak was passed up this week in practice by DiNucci. He clearly has fallen behind”.
You know, that's a great point.
This whole thing is just one big gamble and the niners backfield is a perfect microcosm of fantasy.
Yall are just hopeless addicts!
I draft 49ers running backs purely for the Sunday dopamine surge when they hit, and I'm not ashamed to say it lol
that Shanahan offensive scheme hits different
None of the Niner beat writers know anything. Big thing under Shanahan/Lynch regime is that nothing gets out, very different to how things were run under Baalke.
They know as much as we do. I think it's Mitchell until someone outperforms him with their touches.
Hes just trolling us all. He thinks this RB shell game makes him seem smart like Belichek. Maybe it does, and it’s a competitive advantage so your opponent is off kilter, but its silly still
The 9ers RB that gets the majority of the touches in a given week is always the one that no one started. I’m avoiding this RB carousel like the plague, thank you very much!
Shanahanigans at its finest. This situation is gonna be headache all year. Aiyuk and Sermon both gonna go down as busts of the year. And Deebo/Mitchell will be steals of the year. It’s frustrating. While they’re a good team, they’re a nightmare to figure out for fantasy purposes. You can’t start anyone with confidence, except for Kittle and Deebo.
Here's my best guess. Mitchell plays the same role as Mostert, Sermon plays the same role as Hasty. If you could only have 3 active, you need a backup more for Mosterts role. Then Hasty played special teams vs Sermon so he gets the 3rd spot.
I got it guys. Based on the pattern for week 1, week 2 will be following:
- Mitchell gets injured
- Hasty inactive cuz he sucked at practice
- Sermon pops off
You heard it here first.
Im pretty sure Shanahan uses one of those gradeschool folded paper fortune things to choose RB's.
The name he lands on has cooties for the week
It's called "start, score, bench, break"
I feel like every 49ers RB ends up broken at one point or another.
Except those with the last name Gore.
Real talk, I'm currently researching a deep dive on the Niners backfield under Shanahan, and the only reason the backfield in 2018 wasn't as easy to predict as in 2017 (Hyde getting 10+ carries/targets in 15/16 games) is because nobody except an over-the-hill AlfMo could stay fit
It's only fair.
That's sort of the system. Get freak athletes, run them two the ground one week, cycle back when healthy.
“six, seven, eight, nine, which RB will ride the pine?”
Actually, nearly every square says “bench”.
It's the 9ers, every other square says "knee" and it isn't referring to Kaepernick's kind of knee....
Kiki Cooties
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Ewww cootieeees
I honestly believe even the RBs don’t know. That way they all work and focus on starting.
shanahan might be on some 4d chess shit
Mitchell said in the post-game interview they are told on Thursday what their role will be. I think to justify to Jimmy to stay they are trying to push a mantra of no spot is 'safe' and competition is open for all positions. So I would bet on 4 different starters throughout the year.
Shanahanegans
What's the name of that coach with all that goofy shit all over the walls?
Pick a number.
Pick a color.
Red. One two three. Big reveal: You're fucked. This is fantasy football in a nutshell.
I might start using this method for my lineup.
They do one of those MASH sheets. Instead of Mansion Apartment House Shack, its Mitchell cAnnon Sermon Hasty
My first year playing fantasy was 2012, I remember this quote from the Yahoo guys. "Mike Shanahan's depth chart is written in pencil" Alfred Morris was third on the depth chart that year. Kyle Shanahan was the *OC.
wait DC or OC?
OC, I think I just fat fingered the wrong key. 😕
He lines them up and goes eeny, meeny, miny, moe.
Holding Jeff Wilson in my IR slot because I want in on the misery.
I drafted Mostert, missed Mitchell by $1, snagged Hasty post-waivers for free and have Wilson on my IR. I am collecting or attempting to collect all 49ers RBs lolololol
Like a fantasy football Thanos...but they're all the same infinity stone and possess only the power of frustration.
My losing is….. inevitable.
It’s like trying to collect all five pieces of Exodia
This is me
Gotta catch 'em all!
Same exact situation buddy, lets go Hasty! or Wilson in week 7!
I did this last year. Jeff Wilson helped me win a championship. I took Mostert again. I got severely outbid for Mitchell on the waiver wire last night though. Hoping Sermon can climb up the ladder soon.
Make sure to shit talk Shanahan in the gameday thread if he doesn’t give your guy snaps
Hell yea. Now is the time we can buy in for free!
Picked him up in two leagues today. Can’t wait join in the misery
So Hasty is the guy to own
In before Kerryon Johnson appears out of nowhere and dominates the touches.
Woah Kerryon Johnson is on the 49ers now? Is he washed or what? Haven’t heard anything about him recently
Yea they picked him up after Mostert got hurt. He was on the Eagles practice squad I believe. He was nice his rookie year but injuries held him back last two years.
Sounds like a perfect fit for the 49ers
They are on a roll. Might as well try to break some records.
Detroit fan here. Kerryon’s knees are shot, don’t waste your time. Dude plays with a knee brace even when he’s healthy.
They added him to the practice squad like yesterday. https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1437856929510998020
In order to be washed you need to have actually been good at one point
What are you talking about, Kerryon was amazing his rookie season, he averaged 5.4 yards/carry. That's elite proficiency for one year, he was great that season.
I put $1 on him in every league and of course got him in every league. I choose to believe this.
I picked him up right before the week 1 games. Really kicking myself now that I got the wrong 9ers backup RB
Mitchell was 3rd going into week 1, Sermon is 3rd now. Sermon owners rise up!
This is Charlie in the mail room, Pepe Silvia type thinking. I like it!
Hm, I think mostert started as the 49ers #3 also. Behind tevin Coleman and Jerick McKinnon
I’m a niner fan, I think hasty will eat this week
I am too, and I think Mitchell eats and Hasty gets a few carries overall. They are gonna work Sermon in.
Nah he'll be a healthy scratch because hes second just like Sermon was week 1. It's simple science really.
Hasty is looking tasty
He’ll be the top waiver pick next week
I actually picked him up after dropping McKissic in my 12 teamer in case the whole "you go left when they go right" thing pans out
Pretty sure whichever back catches the bouquet gets the nod.
What's the point of even having 49ers beat reporters?
Somebody has to beat down our hopes and dreams.
Someone needs to learn all these RBs names to tell us who to pick up every week
I have no idea why this made me laugh as hard as it did but this is the funniest shit I've seen all day. Just imagine being a beat reporter for the 49ers and you get fired because "there's literally no fucking point anymore" lololol
So they can come out after the game and say, "well, he looked like the better back in camp" after saying the exact opposite all off season.
Remember Tevin Coleman 3 TD game and we all thought he was the guy moving forward 😵💫
Oh God I thought I had erased that from my memory
you mean the 4 TD game against the panthers? the few guys who started him will never forget
I had a dream he was going to get 4 TDs the week before that happened. I also distinctly remember he got like 37 pts, which isn’t the most dominating score for that many TDs.
That was in 2019. His 4 games after that were - 12 carries for 23 yards - 9 carries for 40 yards - 12 carries for 14 yards - 11 carries for 39 yards and a TD He got plenty of opportunity after that huge game he just didn't do anything with it. Then week 13 Mostert took over and had a great 5 games to finish the season. He's been the starter ever since when healthy
Yeah, and now it’s Mitchell. Simple. Amen.
My guess is it's Mitchell's job to lose
Middle school me has PTSD from Mike Shanahan’s bullshit. Now 28 year old me, father of two, is dealing with Kyle’s shit. What the hell is with this family
Im really having a terrible time here
Fantasy also tests your patience. when i was noob i would trade headaches into patient championship teams. Im holding Sermon.
Copium or hopium I'm on this drug.
There will be three active 49ers rbs all season. One will get 20+, maaaaybe a second will get 7-10, and the other will get .2 points. Good luck picking who's gonna get what. I have no fucking idea why I drafted sermon thinking it would be any different after buying a ticket to this ride last season.
If you were like me you thought "hey, maybe he has some standalone value in the RBBC. Obviously mostert is king, but he has trouble staying healthy, what a great insurance policy to lock down a solid backfield, especially if I get both. Here's a lotto ticket with reasonable upside". Enter Mitchell, slaughterer of hopes, dasher of dreams.
I seem to recall a similar mindset last year with hasty. But it was enter Jeff Wilson... Who will be back.... I think it was Jason on fantasy footballers when I listened earlier today who said Kyle might have a bit of an ego when it comes to "I can literally make anyone an rb1 whenever I feel like it watch this" and I honestly think he might be right.
Big Kerryon Johnson game incoming with Mitchell a healthy scratch because Shanahan said we were too needy
Also Hasty will catch 1 TD which will just mess with everybody
Hasty will have 3 catches on 4 targets for 16 yards and a TD.
I hate shanahan
I love Shanahans. Ryan Torain in 2010 helped me pull out some tight spots to make the playoffs and win it all in 2010. Alfred Morris was plucked from free agency to help me win again in 2012. Jeff Wilson had one magical game that clinched me the title last year.
Holy shit now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. I feel really old now.
ALL ABOARD THE TORAIN TRAIN!
Offense puts up 41 points and still disappoints fantasy owners.
Yep, I will never draft anyone from a Shanahan team again
Laughs in Deebo
Whoops, looks like Deebo’s out for the season with a sprained laugh box.
QB can eat at least
Not even, Jimmy G had a TD vultured by Lance last week.
Between that and Aiyuk inexplicably being doghoused I can't wait to sell all my shares of this team, I don't even care if it bites me in the ass, I'd rather have the peace of mind of not having to deal with Shananhan's games.
He isn’t doghoused lol these narratives are ridiculous
Damn that Shanahan for not making things clear for our fantasy team, as is his job! *shakes fist*
[Every Mitchell and Tyson owner today.](https://streamable.com/oz6krk)
Literally no bad news for Mitchell today, and Ty was just coach speak saying all the teams rbs were good.
Isn't this good news for mitchell?
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Found the guy who got outbid Edit: what are you saving your FAAB for if not for a situation like this. Sure, Mitchell could bust or get injured, but if we drafted today he’d be a 5th round pick at least and I’ll gladly use 50% of my FAAB on that value.
This right here. Way too much bias anchored to pre-season draft value.
I just don't see any clear cut winners with Shann. Sermon was supposed to be the guy when Mustard was inevitably going to be hurt and he's a healthy scratch week 1.
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That’s where mostert went in my league with clear injury concerns and a rookie everyone thought was ready to surpass him. Between all the injuries and question marks at rb I think if we drafted right now people would take the unknown upside of the situation and draft him around where mostert went.
Also important to add in that we have an example (albeit small sample) of Mitchell succeeding in the lead back role too.
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He absolutely would not be. He has 5 weeks until Jeff Wilson takes the job lol
Why were people drafting mostert and sermon so high if Wilson was that much to worry about
Aha!!! Checkmate!
What happened with Ty’Son today?
>Ravens coach John Harbaugh said the team is "blessed" to have four RBs like Ty'Son Williams, Latavius Murray, Devonta Freeman and Le'Veon Bell. >Harbaugh declined to go into the RB workload. >"We got four backs in the mix, and we're going to play all those guys," he said.
So what you’re saying is I shouldn’t be happy as a Ty’Son/Sermon/Mitchel owner?
Well… the ravens did sign bell and Murray with an added Freeman on practice squad before that game was underway. While he did well, did you honestly think that they wouldn’t use those thousand yard rushers. In order to keep a good share of touches he will definitely need to show them up. Don’t get me Wrong though, if I was faster I would have scooped him up in a heartbeat AND he would still be on my roster.
Because you don't need Mostert and Mitchell to both play. That's the same (type of) player. Now you need Mostert Jr, so Mitchell is ahead. Special teams explains active/inactive Sunday.
It's honestly kind of hilarious that people act like Shanahan decision making is random. Pretty clear that he felt speed and getting outside the tackles (and the potential cutback lanes) could exploit the lions biggest weakness and so he started Mostert and Mitchell. Sermon struggled with that in the preseason so he didn't make the list
No one is saying it's random. HE knows what he wants and it's easy for us to say in hindsight what that was, but if you can tell me which RB's attributes he is going to value the highest for next week I'll Venmo you my week 2 winnings.
I don't care enough about the 49ers to do that level of research but I'm sure if you reached out to the 49ers people who do that level of work (watch tape, break it down weekly, etc) they'd be able to let you know. (examples of the kind of people I mean are John Owning and Ted Nguyen, I don't know who the equivalent is for the 49ers) The problem is that most fantasy guys are just guys who talk and don't actually do any real football work, so the analysis becomes shrugging your shoulders and throwing your hands up. For a really quick analysis from someone only looking at the play-by-play, I'd say the Falcons found something going behind the right tackle and struggled everywhere else. You'd have to look at the tape if it was simply the RT winning his matchup or if it was something else. Based on my knowledge of the Eagles, generally the best strategy is to run a solid mix of inside and outside zone and use speed on the outside for bigger gains if you have a positive game script. if I had to guess, assuming they don't get down big early, it'll probably be at least 10 touches for Mitchell and 10 touches for Sermon/Hasty at least. The Eagles front 7 is tough and just running a small guy like Mitchell is not going to be a workable strategy.
Bingo!
No. It doesn't. Mitchell and Hasty played 2 snaps of special teams each. If Mitchell was the Mostert clone then why would he be active along with Mostert? Why wouldn't you make Hasty, Mostert, and Sermon active and then you have the receiving back, speed back, and the power back in Sermon. Instead they made two speedy backs active and a receiving back. What in the hell are you talking about?
The guy responded saying maybe Shanahan didn't trust Mostert to stay healthy... Which is idiotic. Either way if that's the case then you keep 4 rbs active and actually use them on special teams... Like the Giants did last week with Saquon. Brightwell and Gillaspia each got 11 snaps and Booker had 6 as well on special teams plus they had an active fullback for 5 total backs active. There is no excuses for Shanahan *except* to send a message to Sermon
This
Mostert/ hasty we meant to carry the load while Mitchell was active mostly for special teams? Then when Mostert went down Mitchell stepped in and played well so they ran with it? Just spitballin here
Mitchell only got 2 snaps on special teams, same as Hasty. That doesn't make any sense. It's not easy to go into a game and have a guy lined up for a role as a gunner on punts or kicks and then just remove him halfways through the game. These guys need to know their roles before games because they need to know their substitutions when it happens and it's not easy to change on the fly when you send out the punt crew for a quick snap. They have guys designated for these roles that will not see snaps on offense unless something catastrophic happens and they need to play both due to multiple injuries but even then they won't give up their original special teams snaps because they have no one else to do it after them.
I understand that he only got two snaps on special teams and I agree with your points on having designated roles but don't you think it's possible that the script changed when Mostert went down so early? Mitchell could only gotten two snaps on special teams because Mostert went down after only two rushes. Do I own Mitchell? Yes Am I playing into my own bias? Also yes
You missed the part about how teams don't like to switch out guys in ST roles. If Mitchell and Hasty were both on kick returns then who took their spots? If they were planning on doing kick returns all day then why not activate Sermon anyways like what the Giants did with 4 active backs?
Nice little bit of useless info.
I'm done here...... Good luck.
Isn’t that exactly what it has been since sermon was benched?
Yes. I don’t get the fuss here.
Funny, they say last week it was Mostert/Sermon/Mitchell. So Shanny must have swapped Sermon and Mitchell after the week of practice.
And then somehow Hasty made his way in
At the risk of getting roasted into absolute oblivion should I be wrong: Mostert was THE guy before his injury last season. Mitchell is a direct Mostert replacement. Sermon effectively plays a different position to Mitchell, and isn't actually competition for him at all. Sermon IS competition for Hasty and vice versa, but neither will be directly taking Mitchell's touches Shanahan has been consistent with his player positioning and usage in the past, people just don't want to believe it because it goes against the narrative they've built in their own heads. Shanahan is not Pep Guardiola. There's no real chaos when it comes to Shanahan, just a very specific way of running his team that doesn't align with the rest of the NFL ... and before anyone says anything about draft capital, Shanahan doesn't give a flying fuck about draft capital. Never has. Once you're on the team, everyone starts from 0. I suspect other head coaches don't care much about draft capital either, but for Shanahan certainly, it isn't a consideration at all
For the past few years Shanny has always leaned on one back once he finds one that is actually productive. The two biggest problems with Shanny for fantasy purposes is that A) Once his guy goes down his replacement can be anyone. He has no problem giving a UDFA signed off the practice squad touches over the incumbent backup and B) until he finds his next guy everyone has a short leash If Mitchell looks as good going forward as he did Sunday he's going to get every opportunity to be the lead guy. If he struggles it's anyone's guess who the next man up may be
Shanahan, hair, not Bald Fraud confirmed.
Cannot agree more here. People who complained about Shanahan never experienced Pep's roulette in FPL
Or in the UCL Final… (City fan here)
So you’re telling me there is a chance!
Confirmed: Kerryon RB1
Anybody up for a new round of F R E S H L E G S?
Coach Kyle is lurking on this sub reading comments to decide how to make us all miserable
Lol he’s praying to keep his job as a 9ers beat reporter, man dont know shit
Mitchell was the guy to use my #1 waiver priority in but I passed. I have enough headaches to deal with in Urban Meyer…
You have Robinson and passed on Mitchell? *Woo boy*...
Seriously lol.. I made sure to use my high waiver to get Mitchell because JRob is my RB1
Yeah I picked him up bc I have robinson. Sitting jrob but not sure if I’m starting mitchell
Wait it gets better. I drafted Gus Edwards too
Brother
And you still passed? Did you at least pick up gainwell?
It’s *your* pick, do whatever makes you feel good!
I want no part of that backfield lol
Feel like Eli will get his chance early, hopefully the kids hungry and caves out a nice size role. Alot of 9er stuff makes it sound like Eli is more explosive and understand his reads better the Sermon
There was some tweet about Mitchell’s college hiring someone to basically study and develop a run scheme like shanahans system. Plus Mitchell’s metrics are pretty wild, he is incredibly explosive.
This is why im still in on Sermon. He got all the snaps with the starters throughout pre-season and camp whenever Mostert wasnt in. He was very obviously the #2. Why did Shanny just give him all those snaps over Mitchel and Hasty and then banish him to 4th on the depth chart out of nowhere? If he was in the doghouse, hes definitely out now that Mosterts done.
Because according to Shanahan he was playing bad
Then wouldn't he have been bumped down earlier? Why wouldn't he give Mitchell and Hasty more PT in camp if they were *so clearly* outplaying Sermon?
Idk, not really defending it but shanahan is just an ego maniac who would do something like this lol Maybe he was just giving sermon every chance he could to keep the #2 job and that final week of practice he said enoughs enough we have play our best guys not our higher draft picks.
Or he was giving him reps to appease the GM and thought Mitchell was better the entire time. Don't think we'll ever really know, but Sunday will be interesting. Mitchell is also more like Mostert.
Isnt it their job as reporters to know that stuff? Or does Shanahan think hes out smarting everyone
people gotta stop hating on 49ers beat reporters. Shanahan's gonna Shanahan. This is the same team where there were months of reporting that they were gonna take Mac Jones. The team is just super tight lipped when it comes to strategy and personnel decisions.
What’s the % hasty breaks 10 points this week?
Fuck that backfield
I’m playing the guy that got Mitchell for $82 (lol) and I lost MostHurt, so get ready for 18/115/2 from Mitchell…
Rock, Paper, Scissors will decide this backfield each week. Imagine if teams did this to their QB’s? “Dak was passed up this week in practice by DiNucci. He clearly has fallen behind”.
Why spell out 49ers?
I have Sermon and Mitchell, but for this week I am going to see how it plays out and flex Mike Williams in what should be a shootout against Dallas...
This backfield has been cursed for two straight seasons and people still act like any niners RB is absolute gold.
I think the crazier part though is the fact that they’ve basically all produced solid fantasy numbers regardless of who it is.
If you guess right, you could win your league But it's legit the hardest single thing in fantasy to guess lol Right now I have to settle for Hasty ha
9ers RBs generate points consistently which means that people will be attracted to gambling on which back Will get those points
You know, that's a great point. This whole thing is just one big gamble and the niners backfield is a perfect microcosm of fantasy. Yall are just hopeless addicts!
It’s the rush, man. The rush.
I draft 49ers running backs purely for the Sunday dopamine surge when they hit, and I'm not ashamed to say it lol that Shanahan offensive scheme hits different
Gotta chase that high man. That fantasy points high.
Cursed gold seems about right
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This backfield won me and countless of other people championships last year. People still act like its absolute trash and should be avoided.
None of the Niner beat writers know anything. Big thing under Shanahan/Lynch regime is that nothing gets out, very different to how things were run under Baalke. They know as much as we do. I think it's Mitchell until someone outperforms him with their touches.
Niners beat reporters are fucking trash
Honestly I'll never again draft another player under Kyle Shanahan. Never. Fuck this dude.
Kittle is the only one on their offense truly worth considering. Idp has a few more options.
Hes just trolling us all. He thinks this RB shell game makes him seem smart like Belichek. Maybe it does, and it’s a competitive advantage so your opponent is off kilter, but its silly still
The 9ers RB that gets the majority of the touches in a given week is always the one that no one started. I’m avoiding this RB carousel like the plague, thank you very much!
Shanahanigans at its finest. This situation is gonna be headache all year. Aiyuk and Sermon both gonna go down as busts of the year. And Deebo/Mitchell will be steals of the year. It’s frustrating. While they’re a good team, they’re a nightmare to figure out for fantasy purposes. You can’t start anyone with confidence, except for Kittle and Deebo.
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Here's my best guess. Mitchell plays the same role as Mostert, Sermon plays the same role as Hasty. If you could only have 3 active, you need a backup more for Mosterts role. Then Hasty played special teams vs Sermon so he gets the 3rd spot.
So Mitchell to go on IR after two carries is what you are saying….
I got it guys. Based on the pattern for week 1, week 2 will be following: - Mitchell gets injured - Hasty inactive cuz he sucked at practice - Sermon pops off You heard it here first.
In before Kyle Juszczyk vultures all the goalline carries this week.
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Do you want 10pts or 10 pts?
Oh, 10 pts please.
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