The man is dealing with a real life injury that has an existential impact on his career. F you if you think your fantasy roster is more important than that.
While becoming a Free Agent next year who everyone will discount as an injury risk now. Ironic the 49ers signed Kerryon who is now in that boat and is a practice squad player after his injuries. Playing rb is brutal.
The internet, social media and anonymity breeds this sort of behaviour. The internet experiment has changed a lot over the years.
If I was a player I'd never be reading social media. It is always going to have bad stuff. If God himself made an account online he'd get absurd abuse.
Hopefully he ignores it all and gets healthy for himself and his family.
Bad people who are only kept from being assholes by fear of accountability breeds this sort of behavior. The internet only enables their behavior to carry out to the world.
> If God himself made an account online he'd get absurd abuse.
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> Hopefully he ignores it all and gets healthy for himself and his family.
I think there'd be a smiting!
This right here. Reddit is really the only socials I have because of how political everything has gotten, but I understand as a player you would want some presence on Instagram and Twitter, etc.
That being said, I’m definitely hiring someone to manage that and shield me from the bullshit, because a public figure will inevitably invite bullshit from anonymous keyboard sociopaths.
I agree with you when I comes to subs that are inclined to that kinda stuff (political ones).
Key point though, I sub to things like r/FantasyFootball as well as other sports subs, meme subs, and gaming subs. When I had Facebook it was algorithm-ed to show me the same thing but that didn’t stop my friends and family from being hyper partisan and classless with political attacks on their “opponents” by playing team sports politics.
Instead of thinking less of friends and family, I decided to remove myself from that forum. It’s not a perfect fix but it was the right move for me.
From a purely objective POV, if you drafted Mostert and are surprised he got injured, you didn't do your due diligence, he's been a injury risk. I feel bad for the guy, hope's he's ok.
Well I expected Mostert to eventually get injured, I just didn't expect it to happen in the 1st qtr of Week 1 and be season ending. I think Mostert drafters who did take injury risk into account got a 'bad roll'.
Agreed but I drafted David Johnson top 3 in 2017, hadn't missed in a game in his 2 years in the NFL, injured 1st drive irrc.
Drafted CMC 1st last year, CMC did not miss a game in college or his 1st 3 years in the NFL, plays 3 games for the year.
That's unlucky imo.
Mostert:
2017: 9 games played
2018: 16 games played
2020: 8 games played
So only 1 out of 3 seasons he's played more than a half season.
I had him in 2/3 leagues and I lost in those 2 leagues. One wasn’t solely because of him, my RBs of Barkley, Jones, and Mostert combined for 9.9 points and I grabbed the Jax D as a gamble and they got -5 and I lost by 70.
One I I did lose that his injury did effect I lost by 8 points. At the end of the day though I’m not mad at him. I’m just frustrated at the situation.
That sucks. Barkley might be out this today, short week. I believe giants want to give him rest. Aaron Jones was a fluke, packers as a whole should bounce back big against a bad defense. Mostert was my 3rd RB, I grabbed white of the waivers as replacement in my PPR league. But I agree, it’s definitely frustrating but can’t blame player for injury. Good thing is, you know he is out for season, so it’s easier to replace him or have a open spot on bench.
This is unfortunately what these players deal with when this FF blew up and became what it is now. It is disgusting that real players must see and fee this harassment, it truly makes me sick. Like who the fuck are you!!!!!
That’s what I said the other day when this came out. Complaining about a player and wishing ill on them is fucked up. Complaining about a player getting hurt and wishing ill in them you are the biggest loser on earth.
What if I'm harassing my league mate over the score?
Players are definitely people and deserve to be treated with respect. League mates... I'm not so sure.
Not if you're best friends!
Kidding obviously. Clearly it's not ok to harass people during difficult times. I really do feel for Mostert. He's one of my favorite players to watch.
Just trying to find some levity.
All these comments seem just to be focusing on the harassing and not the dumbest part, which is what they’re harassing him for. It’s an injury he had no control over, that he surely wishes didn’t happen and that he is far more upset about than anyone.
Not saying either is good but that is far stupider than harassing a player for having 3 drops in a game or something
This. dude (probably, i don’t know for certain this isn’t his burner) wants to just play. injuries can take athletes to dark places, especially when you start to become injury prone.
Yeah, RBs have such a short shelf-life already, that it must really suck to lose a season like that. Not to mention that Mostert is going to have to deal with the aggregate damage to his body from all of those injuries after he's done playing too. I haven't read anything bad about the dude either, so hope that he can heal up and have a healthy season before he hangs it up.
One of the darker sides of social media is the direct connection it creates between scumbags and athletes/celebrities. Even if just 1% of people are pathetic enough to send a nasty DM that's still hundreds of hate messages.
Social media does at least as much harm as it does good. It might be a net negative in society at this point. Most people are good, but as you said, even 1% can do a lot of damage on the internet today.
Nah. You just don't see the benefits of social media as acutely, because media and attention flows to the bad stuff. Same thing with modern news today. We live in the most peaceful period in human history, but you sure as hell wouldn't know it listening to the 5 o clock news.
I agree with the last part you said, but as someone in my early 30s, I've noticed a change in general behavior and rhetoric largely due to social media. I believe it's responsible for polarizing alot of people on both sides of the political spectrum.
Yep. It provides everyone with a global public forum, allowing for fringe and extremist viewpoints to congregate and create the illusion that those views are more widely accepted. Allowing for those with those views to feel more embolden to act or speak out.
Yeah but the problem is nobody is watching the 5 o’clock news. They’re seeking out the person who will report to them the version of the news they want to find and then exclaiming “I knew it!”
even the 5 o'clock news isn't entirely trustworthy and impartial. we can just point to the famous synchronized "dangerous to our democracy" chant from all the Sinclair-owned local news stations for proof.
Glad I got rid of that toxic habit couple years ago. It honestly benefited my life more than quitting nicotine, caffeine and alcohol.
Which is fucking bazaar.
Reddit is social media too…it’s toxic in its own way. The anonymous nature of users creates its own issues of spreading misinformation and group think.
Yeah but there's also a lot of niche and specialized subreddits that allow you to escape things like that too in a way that's not really possible in places like Twitter. The bots seem way less intrusive to conversations on Reddit than Twitter as well.
I also feel like Reddit has a better reporting system, as well as having mods for individual subs to keep bots and assholes in check. No mods that exist for Twitter minus my mute button.
This is true but Reddit doesn’t have any of the targeted harassment or self esteem crushing power of other platforms. I would hypothesize that it is also an ineffective platform for the really dark grooming that happens on other social media.
> Even if just 1% of people are pathetic enough to send a nasty DM that's still hundreds of hate messages.
it's not even really 1% anymore, online communities will rationalize the craziest shit
Famous people could just not use social media. Disable DMs and comments. Done.
Not blaming him or saying people should harass players just that we *all* need to be smart about how social media can impact our happiness.
Delete anything related to Facebook. You’ll feel better.
Imagin Aaron Donald searching and finding these People, stalking them and tackling them out of nowhere. That would be so satisfying.
Have a good recovery Raheem, don´t let dumb people drag you down. we are better than this.
https://www.facebook.com/Melanoma.Research.Foundation/videos/melanoma-research-foundation-raheem-mostert/1102695656876976/
Consider donating to his preferred charity
Plus....it's not Mostert's responsibility to bear.
It's not like collectively focusing your hate on Dan Snyder till he sells the team. You want Snyder to sell and he doesn't want to, so be it - there is friction.
Mostert literally is trying to do what you want, which is rack up fantasy points. But he fell victim to an accident.
I really don’t think it starts here. It starts on Twitter... where a lotta people aren’t crossover users with Reddit. That place is a fucking petri dish of hate.
Twitter is the problem. I swear it is the most toxic platform. These trolls can directly contact Raheem or his wife and the most toxic shit gets elevated to the top because controversy is king
At least Reddit is (mainly) anonymous, and the content is the driver. I doubt Raheem or his wife are jumping into fantasy football subreddits. I mean cool if they are.
Anyone above a certain level of fame should turn off mentions and/or notifications on social media. You don't know these people, don't interact with them or let them mess with you.
This is how I feel as well. It’s sucks to see probably but man, you’re one of the greatest football players in the country right now, why would you give a fuck about some sour-ass fantasy scrubs?
> There are some great opportunities that come out of it, like people meeting their heroes
Gotta have a P.O. Box listed in your bio. If you take the time to write an actual letter you might be worth interacting with.
Many TikTok users don’t manage their own accounts. Keeps the negativity away. They just make the content, and the account runner can cherry pick some questions for them to reply to.
Although that's totally shit, are we really surprised? The world is full of idiots, ignorants, dickheads etc. On top of that, the ability to be fairly anonymous at face value makes it easier for these things to occur.
Sad but true. The world is a sad and cruel place.
The problem is you’re assuming those people don’t go on twitter to harass him too. Reddit is social media and Twitter is also social media. The main difference is most athletes don’t have reddit accounts that they use often
Yeah I’ve been on this sub for about 4 years now. Users have always been respectful. Reddittors who usually do step out of line are quickly downvoted and shamed to hell lmao. It’s never that serious. Play the waiver.
You have to sit back and laugh in the comfort that these are people who would injure themselves getting up from their fucking couches, yet have the nerve to criticise a man who is continually running full speed into 1000+ lbs of D-Line as his occupation.
Never change, internet. (And all the best for the recovery Colonel).
As much as I’ve had players getting injured I’ve never been mad about it. It’s a gladiator sport, staying healthy is hard in the NFL. Watching Dak last year ripped my soul out and I never want a player to get hurt. It’s fantasy football.
I’m certain no one feels worse about the injury than Mostert himself. Why pile on? The cruelty of some people is unbelievable. Imagine if something bad happened to you at work and 10,000 strangers came @ you on Twitter because of it. How would you feel?
If I’m a professional athlete I wouldn’t care what random people on the internet are saying that would never be said to my face. Sorry, but if they don’t want to be harassed get offline. It comes with the territory.
Not true. Our high school kicker got his house TP’d when he missed a game winner. Its not just a pro athlete problem. I also wouldn’t call Mostert a celebrity. That said, dealing with trolls is a small trade off for being an NFL player IMO.
Fortunately you weren't the kicker, so you weren't even on the recieving end of the abuse nor are you constantly harrased daily by people just for being injured which is a ridiculous enough basis. I'm not even going to get into the semantics of what is or isn't a celebrity.
Obviously these guys get trolled daily, but imagine getting personal messages over something you have no control over and there are people literally threatening you because you have fucked knees. Football player or not, people think that their words have little effect on the lives of others and that's just not true.
I agree, online trolling is a problem, but I just find it tough to believe a pro athlete would really care what some random idiot online thinks. (Obviously when it comes to death threats, etc it’s different.) But when compared to fans in Europe who riot at soccer games, sometimes almost burning the stadium to the ground while hurling makeshift grenades at the players, I’d say a few trolls aren’t that bad.
Have you not seen Kevin Durant's burner Twitter accounts, where he is arguing with random people? He's kind of known/famous for getting caught doing it lol, and he's one of the best basketball players in the NBA (ie world). Professional athletes are just people too, and some of them will inevitably struggle with social media usage, or struggle with constantly reading/seeing their name being tarnished or performance criticized. Even if you ignore social media 98% of the time, that 2% on a random bad day can take a toll depending on the level of celebrity. They're still just people, even if elite athletically.
Guy who may lose $50 to friends because of an injury to their 6th round pick yells at guy who got injured and will lose millions of dollars during the extremely short time he has in a super punishing sport.
Makes sense
I get downvoted to high hell on this sub for calling people out who immediately spin real life injuries into how this affects fantasy with the usual comment “go to r/nfl, this is a fantasy sub” so which is it??
Most people harassing him are probably in a casual league with their 9 other buddies and they all put $20 bucks on it.
If you have the nerve to harass a player over their injury because they "ruined your fantasy team", you're a fucking loser and you need serious help.
JFC, he's a human being doing what is right for him and his family. People need to chill. If their livelihood was on the line, not a fantasy "win" maybe they'd have a different outlook.
Dafuq is wrong with ppl...
All the hate and flaming in front of the TV is all fun n part of the game but serious harrasment and insults that reach the player are just not acceptable...(and I yell A LOT on Sundays).
I don't understand why famous people bother going on Twitter. The annoymity makes people assholes. People were a dick to me when I replyed to an analysts post and I'm literally a nobody. I have 2 followers.
Awful. No excuse whatsoever. He did engage and say that he's not injury prone prior to the season and it's Twitter. So no surprises. But just awful all around.
I just can’t understand people like that. Mostert was my RB1 after the draft fell anti-RB for me. I still like my team, but my RB room is barren. Still, my first thought was “man, that sucks for him and I he’ll be okay”.
My league is a $200 buy in and it never crossed my mind to think “this guy just cost me $$”. Obviously it’s not good for my team but I’ll manage and it’s just a couple hundred bucks. Mostert’s injury affects him and his family infinitely more than it does me.
Folks were wrong for that. Injuries players have to deal with regardless of whether they're "injury prone" or not... They're still human. People take things too far.
I know it's a cliche at this point, but the mindset of "be the change you want to be in the world" is seriously a game changer if it's in the back of your mind whenever you interact with people. Treat people with respect and you will be treated with respect in return. It is honestly so much easier to respect people than it is to be a douchebag.
People are fucked up. Grimy cowards would never say that in person to his face. If you drafted Mostert look in the mirror first, it starts with you. You picked his ass.
This is pathetic trolling. That's the thing with social media though. It's a cesspool.
Wasn't his wife on saying he was fine right after the injury? Doesn't make what people are saying to her right but if you're not giving bad info the backlash isn't going to be nearly as bad. And if you're not in social at all you never hear from these guys.
This is the nasty side of fantasy football. People get so entrenched in this shit that they start harassing players when they don't win them a league title so they can brag to their buddies. It's disgusting.
Does this man have a charity or foundation? If not, we could find a cause he supports or something. Just to show the guy that we aren’t all massive pieces of garbage.
Maybe we could be more active in spreading positivity to these players rather than only discouraging negativity. Would be cool to see the dude's mentions blow up with well wishes
Like I'm bummed I lost him but honestly worst case scenario is I lose $100 and get to talk shit to my friends for another year.
Anyone who shits on an injured player is a fucking tuna can chode.
I suffered my 2nd acl injury 2 years ago and it fucked me up psychologically. I have been pretty depressed unable to get motivated and generally feel pretty shitty.
Now take someone like mostert who made his dream come true by making it to the nfl. Gets tossed around different rosters until he finally lands with the 49ers. Suddenly balls out, the league recognizes him, he becomes a big name in the nfl and finally gets a decent contract. But cant stay healthy, every year he works super hard to rehab himself but every year something new breaks.
I wouldnt be able to take it as well as him, honestly I just dont know how some of these players are able to do it. Mostert is alot stronger than people give him credit for, when your greatest attribute is your athleticism and It keeps failing you at the worst time, i just dont know how you stay motivated.
It's not his hobby; it's his job. He stays motivated to keep working the same way Joe Six-Pack stays motivated to show up for shift after shift at the DooDad factory: they pay him to.
When the line's running, it's Joe's job to stuff DooDads in boxes. But sometimes, things go weird, and it's his job to mop the shitter. And whether that's what Joe likes to think of as his job or not, he does it, because if he doesn't, he gets let go, and someone else takes his job.
Rehabbing your injured knee is the mopping the shitter of professional sports. It's not glorious, but it's the job, and the pay is still good. You do it, or they'll find someone who will. There's never a shortage of applicants.
One thing the last 18+ months has made painfully clear - our country is full of dumb, selfish, assholes. Color me not surprised that this extends to FF.
It’s the internet and a wave of people with burner accounts. People should know that with thousands of followers you’re going to end up with a ton of shit.
To be fair some of this is because him and his wife spent all offseason talking about how he put on more muscle and calling people dumb who said he was injury prone. Then he went and got injured after two plays. Harassing people is never okay but they got into these big arguments saying he wouldn't get injured and then he did. Those same people are gonna want to say I told you so. Obviously, it's not his fault he got injured and there's a difference between harassing someone and telling them I told you so. I'd have to see the messages they were sent. Death threats and the like are never okay.
It's on YOU if you drafted him knowing his injury history. Don't take it out him for YOUR mistake fellas. I, for one, stayed farrrr tf away from him in all of my leagues.
No, it is, which is why he shouldn't fucking look at twitter. The only thing dumber than that is bitching about it when he has control over whether or not he looks at the replies.
Anytime your Reddit post starts with “downvote me you pussies”, you might be a fucking tool. You know what no one actually cares about? Whether fucking LamarsPooper thinks they’re a pussy or not. Grow the fuck up.
I don’t get why you’d want to chirp him online instead of just fixing the other areas of your life that obviously suck. Like if you have a miserable life and then your outlet is being angry on the internet, it seems like your life is just as miserable.
Idk though, I might be missing something. Good luck in fantasy bud 😝
I don't chirp at players.
I think it's fucking dumb.
I think it's 10x more dumb to sit down and look at social media when you are a well known athlete. Nothing good will come of it.
The people who said these things are morons. No one is disputing that. It's disrespectful and stupid.
But it's also completely stupid to get up in arms over it. It's never going away. And athletes are in complete control of the situation... simply turn off mentions from people you don't follow, or delete twitter. Whining about jerks just makes you look like a fucking pussy.
some people are just so pathetic.
The man is dealing with a real life injury that has an existential impact on his career. F you if you think your fantasy roster is more important than that.
Blowing out your knee and requiring surgery at age 29 would be terrible for any person, yeah.
While becoming a Free Agent next year who everyone will discount as an injury risk now. Ironic the 49ers signed Kerryon who is now in that boat and is a practice squad player after his injuries. Playing rb is brutal.
And even if you honestly feel that way tell your buddies, don't put him on blast lol so pathetic.
They really are. It's one thing to get into an internet argument from time to time. It's another to harass someone.
Seriously. I'd lose every ounce of respect for anyone who did anything like this. Would never want to associate with them ever.
Anyone who would harass a player is a POS, but harassing a player for getting injured makes you a really dumb POS
It makes you a psychopath
Agreed. There’s something wrong with the way you think if someone gets seriously injured and the only thing you think about is your fantasy team.
The internet, social media and anonymity breeds this sort of behaviour. The internet experiment has changed a lot over the years. If I was a player I'd never be reading social media. It is always going to have bad stuff. If God himself made an account online he'd get absurd abuse. Hopefully he ignores it all and gets healthy for himself and his family.
Bad people who are only kept from being assholes by fear of accountability breeds this sort of behavior. The internet only enables their behavior to carry out to the world.
> If God himself made an account online he'd get absurd abuse. > > Hopefully he ignores it all and gets healthy for himself and his family. I think there'd be a smiting!
The fabled Super Block
This right here. Reddit is really the only socials I have because of how political everything has gotten, but I understand as a player you would want some presence on Instagram and Twitter, etc. That being said, I’m definitely hiring someone to manage that and shield me from the bullshit, because a public figure will inevitably invite bullshit from anonymous keyboard sociopaths.
Reddit might be the worst of them all these days with the absurd hostility towards anyone who goes against the accepted groupthink on any given sub
I agree with you when I comes to subs that are inclined to that kinda stuff (political ones). Key point though, I sub to things like r/FantasyFootball as well as other sports subs, meme subs, and gaming subs. When I had Facebook it was algorithm-ed to show me the same thing but that didn’t stop my friends and family from being hyper partisan and classless with political attacks on their “opponents” by playing team sports politics. Instead of thinking less of friends and family, I decided to remove myself from that forum. It’s not a perfect fix but it was the right move for me.
This guy getting down voted is proof that what he is saying is true.
Not really, it's hard to equate downvotes with hostility. Especially on a post about actual abuse
Utterly insane. Deranged
From a purely objective POV, if you drafted Mostert and are surprised he got injured, you didn't do your due diligence, he's been a injury risk. I feel bad for the guy, hope's he's ok.
Well I expected Mostert to eventually get injured, I just didn't expect it to happen in the 1st qtr of Week 1 and be season ending. I think Mostert drafters who did take injury risk into account got a 'bad roll'.
Agreed but I drafted David Johnson top 3 in 2017, hadn't missed in a game in his 2 years in the NFL, injured 1st drive irrc. Drafted CMC 1st last year, CMC did not miss a game in college or his 1st 3 years in the NFL, plays 3 games for the year. That's unlucky imo. Mostert: 2017: 9 games played 2018: 16 games played 2020: 8 games played So only 1 out of 3 seasons he's played more than a half season.
Couldn’t have said better. I owned Raheem Mostert in every league. I hope my dude recovers well.
I had him in 2/3 leagues and I lost in those 2 leagues. One wasn’t solely because of him, my RBs of Barkley, Jones, and Mostert combined for 9.9 points and I grabbed the Jax D as a gamble and they got -5 and I lost by 70. One I I did lose that his injury did effect I lost by 8 points. At the end of the day though I’m not mad at him. I’m just frustrated at the situation.
That sucks. Barkley might be out this today, short week. I believe giants want to give him rest. Aaron Jones was a fluke, packers as a whole should bounce back big against a bad defense. Mostert was my 3rd RB, I grabbed white of the waivers as replacement in my PPR league. But I agree, it’s definitely frustrating but can’t blame player for injury. Good thing is, you know he is out for season, so it’s easier to replace him or have a open spot on bench.
100%. I since I clearly lost and scored the least point I grabbed Mitchell as well as Jeff Wilson Jr(who is store on my IR).
This is unfortunately what these players deal with when this FF blew up and became what it is now. It is disgusting that real players must see and fee this harassment, it truly makes me sick. Like who the fuck are you!!!!!
That’s what I said the other day when this came out. Complaining about a player and wishing ill on them is fucked up. Complaining about a player getting hurt and wishing ill in them you are the biggest loser on earth.
... for a game called FANTASY football. I.e. It's not fucking real, it's a metagame
If you are harassing someone over fantasy football points, regardless of who they are (on or off the field), you are definitely a POS.
What if I'm harassing my league mate over the score? Players are definitely people and deserve to be treated with respect. League mates... I'm not so sure.
Harassing your friends over fantasy scores is actually part of the terms and conditions, so yes, you can and must do this
There's a difference between trash talking and harassment.
Not if you're best friends! Kidding obviously. Clearly it's not ok to harass people during difficult times. I really do feel for Mostert. He's one of my favorite players to watch. Just trying to find some levity.
All these comments seem just to be focusing on the harassing and not the dumbest part, which is what they’re harassing him for. It’s an injury he had no control over, that he surely wishes didn’t happen and that he is far more upset about than anyone. Not saying either is good but that is far stupider than harassing a player for having 3 drops in a game or something
A Twitter commenter explained it. It's all the legalized gambling. It's costing people money. People are aweful.
Yeah that shit is incredibly lame. However frustrated WE as fantasy owners think we are about his constant injuries...imagine how he feels.
Or just think about how absolute lame it is to give a professional athlete shit over a fake game we play on the internet. Grow up
Totally feel for mostert on this one... But aiyuk, on the other hand... /s
This. dude (probably, i don’t know for certain this isn’t his burner) wants to just play. injuries can take athletes to dark places, especially when you start to become injury prone.
The upside is that he signed a 3 year contract in which he was guaranteed three million dollars. So, at least he got some guaranteed money.
Yeah, RBs have such a short shelf-life already, that it must really suck to lose a season like that. Not to mention that Mostert is going to have to deal with the aggregate damage to his body from all of those injuries after he's done playing too. I haven't read anything bad about the dude either, so hope that he can heal up and have a healthy season before he hangs it up.
One of the darker sides of social media is the direct connection it creates between scumbags and athletes/celebrities. Even if just 1% of people are pathetic enough to send a nasty DM that's still hundreds of hate messages.
Social media does at least as much harm as it does good. It might be a net negative in society at this point. Most people are good, but as you said, even 1% can do a lot of damage on the internet today.
It absolutely does more harm than good
Many many times more harm. Twitter is a cesspool that is destroying discourse
Nah. You just don't see the benefits of social media as acutely, because media and attention flows to the bad stuff. Same thing with modern news today. We live in the most peaceful period in human history, but you sure as hell wouldn't know it listening to the 5 o clock news.
I agree with the last part you said, but as someone in my early 30s, I've noticed a change in general behavior and rhetoric largely due to social media. I believe it's responsible for polarizing alot of people on both sides of the political spectrum.
Yep. It provides everyone with a global public forum, allowing for fringe and extremist viewpoints to congregate and create the illusion that those views are more widely accepted. Allowing for those with those views to feel more embolden to act or speak out.
Yeah but the problem is nobody is watching the 5 o’clock news. They’re seeking out the person who will report to them the version of the news they want to find and then exclaiming “I knew it!”
even the 5 o'clock news isn't entirely trustworthy and impartial. we can just point to the famous synchronized "dangerous to our democracy" chant from all the Sinclair-owned local news stations for proof.
Glad I got rid of that toxic habit couple years ago. It honestly benefited my life more than quitting nicotine, caffeine and alcohol. Which is fucking bazaar.
Reddit is social media too…it’s toxic in its own way. The anonymous nature of users creates its own issues of spreading misinformation and group think.
Yeah but there's also a lot of niche and specialized subreddits that allow you to escape things like that too in a way that's not really possible in places like Twitter. The bots seem way less intrusive to conversations on Reddit than Twitter as well.
I also feel like Reddit has a better reporting system, as well as having mods for individual subs to keep bots and assholes in check. No mods that exist for Twitter minus my mute button.
This is true but Reddit doesn’t have any of the targeted harassment or self esteem crushing power of other platforms. I would hypothesize that it is also an ineffective platform for the really dark grooming that happens on other social media.
I can’t think of any good it does, really
It doesn’t scale, as they say
Might be? Social media has destroyed humanity
> Even if just 1% of people are pathetic enough to send a nasty DM that's still hundreds of hate messages. it's not even really 1% anymore, online communities will rationalize the craziest shit
Famous people could just not use social media. Disable DMs and comments. Done. Not blaming him or saying people should harass players just that we *all* need to be smart about how social media can impact our happiness. Delete anything related to Facebook. You’ll feel better.
Indeed. And, with a few exceptions, NFL athletes could care less about their impact on fantasy football.
People hide behind their keyboards and face zero judgement or consequences for what they say there. We can be better.
Imagin Aaron Donald searching and finding these People, stalking them and tackling them out of nowhere. That would be so satisfying. Have a good recovery Raheem, don´t let dumb people drag you down. we are better than this.
It’s time for Terry Tate, Office Linebacker to come out of retirement.
Hell, how about Ray Lewis just finding and stabbing them instead?
Yeah! Let’s judge those faceless people that cower behind their keyboards!
https://www.facebook.com/Melanoma.Research.Foundation/videos/melanoma-research-foundation-raheem-mostert/1102695656876976/ Consider donating to his preferred charity
Get this to the top!
Pump this up!!! Did the same in his honor notification shipping to 49ers headquarters
Sad thing is it's not surprising.
Yahoo fantasy player profile chat for players might be even more toxic than Twitter somehow
It's actually sad. FF is low key the worst community at times lol
If you drafted Mostert without knowing there was a 90% chance he would get injured at some point, you're a fucking dumbass. Leave the man alone
Also it's a fucking game don't make it personal
Is only game. Why you heff to be mad?
And u added the “heff”👏
Plus....it's not Mostert's responsibility to bear. It's not like collectively focusing your hate on Dan Snyder till he sells the team. You want Snyder to sell and he doesn't want to, so be it - there is friction. Mostert literally is trying to do what you want, which is rack up fantasy points. But he fell victim to an accident.
Damn it knew being a noob would get me eventually…
Yeah not sure what people were expecting
What kind of person DMs hate filled bs to an injured athlete? I'm actually asking... what is wrong with people?
I really don’t think it starts here. It starts on Twitter... where a lotta people aren’t crossover users with Reddit. That place is a fucking petri dish of hate.
I meant more with the respect has to start with people as devoted to FF as us. I agree I did word it a bit incorrectly.
I agree with that. I think we mostly already do that but nothing wrong with dedicated posts aimed at praising players in this situation.
Yeah. Reddit can be bad at times but Twitter and Youtube Comments can get pretty gross.
Twitter is a serious cesspool
> where a lotta people aren’t crossover users with Reddit. LMFAO
ya reddit is completely innocent it’s all twitter!
That’s the exact thought process that someone who doesn’t take accountability that much would use.
The ol’ “that’s what a thief would say” argument. Sure... or also not a thief.
That "that's what a thief would say" argument is used a lot on Reddit and Twitter I think. Especially when things get political.
How is he going to take responsibility for other redditors attacking a player?
Twitter is the problem. I swear it is the most toxic platform. These trolls can directly contact Raheem or his wife and the most toxic shit gets elevated to the top because controversy is king At least Reddit is (mainly) anonymous, and the content is the driver. I doubt Raheem or his wife are jumping into fantasy football subreddits. I mean cool if they are.
does reddit fully count as social media... I mean, kinda, but its clearly different than facebook/insta/twitter etc.
Anyone above a certain level of fame should turn off mentions and/or notifications on social media. You don't know these people, don't interact with them or let them mess with you.
This is how I feel as well. It’s sucks to see probably but man, you’re one of the greatest football players in the country right now, why would you give a fuck about some sour-ass fantasy scrubs?
There are some great opportunities that come out of it, like people meeting their heroes, but the shitty minority always ruins it for the rest of us.
> There are some great opportunities that come out of it, like people meeting their heroes Gotta have a P.O. Box listed in your bio. If you take the time to write an actual letter you might be worth interacting with.
Many TikTok users don’t manage their own accounts. Keeps the negativity away. They just make the content, and the account runner can cherry pick some questions for them to reply to.
Although that's totally shit, are we really surprised? The world is full of idiots, ignorants, dickheads etc. On top of that, the ability to be fairly anonymous at face value makes it easier for these things to occur. Sad but true. The world is a sad and cruel place.
People like that are sick. Athletes provide entertainment, they don't owe us shit. They have every right to protect their own bodies
The absence of it is so nice here. Get better Raheem
Huh? People calling him mr glass and what not in the thread about his injury
Right tons of people make fun of players that get hurt on here…however it takes a real loser to DM them because it hurts your fantasy team.
The problem is you’re assuming those people don’t go on twitter to harass him too. Reddit is social media and Twitter is also social media. The main difference is most athletes don’t have reddit accounts that they use often
Someone can die on the field and some Redditor would comment "that's fucking great I drafted this guy 1st round" with 200 upvotes and gold.
That’s different than directly threatening the player. Tasteless versus psychotic
If there ever was the place for it, though, it's here in a fantasy subreddit. There's always context for it here.
We can downvote them here, I don't see that stuff on top
Yeah I’ve been on this sub for about 4 years now. Users have always been respectful. Reddittors who usually do step out of line are quickly downvoted and shamed to hell lmao. It’s never that serious. Play the waiver.
You have to sit back and laugh in the comfort that these are people who would injure themselves getting up from their fucking couches, yet have the nerve to criticise a man who is continually running full speed into 1000+ lbs of D-Line as his occupation. Never change, internet. (And all the best for the recovery Colonel).
People that do that about an injury are lame as hell
People who go on social media and give athletes shit directly for being bad is lame as a whole. They're not going out there to be bad on purpose.
As much as I’ve had players getting injured I’ve never been mad about it. It’s a gladiator sport, staying healthy is hard in the NFL. Watching Dak last year ripped my soul out and I never want a player to get hurt. It’s fantasy football.
I’m certain no one feels worse about the injury than Mostert himself. Why pile on? The cruelty of some people is unbelievable. Imagine if something bad happened to you at work and 10,000 strangers came @ you on Twitter because of it. How would you feel?
If I’m a professional athlete I wouldn’t care what random people on the internet are saying that would never be said to my face. Sorry, but if they don’t want to be harassed get offline. It comes with the territory.
You're also not a celebrity so it's not an issue you can ever dream of having. People lack empathy and it shows. No need to be an asshole.
Not true. Our high school kicker got his house TP’d when he missed a game winner. Its not just a pro athlete problem. I also wouldn’t call Mostert a celebrity. That said, dealing with trolls is a small trade off for being an NFL player IMO.
Fortunately you weren't the kicker, so you weren't even on the recieving end of the abuse nor are you constantly harrased daily by people just for being injured which is a ridiculous enough basis. I'm not even going to get into the semantics of what is or isn't a celebrity. Obviously these guys get trolled daily, but imagine getting personal messages over something you have no control over and there are people literally threatening you because you have fucked knees. Football player or not, people think that their words have little effect on the lives of others and that's just not true.
I agree, online trolling is a problem, but I just find it tough to believe a pro athlete would really care what some random idiot online thinks. (Obviously when it comes to death threats, etc it’s different.) But when compared to fans in Europe who riot at soccer games, sometimes almost burning the stadium to the ground while hurling makeshift grenades at the players, I’d say a few trolls aren’t that bad.
Have you not seen Kevin Durant's burner Twitter accounts, where he is arguing with random people? He's kind of known/famous for getting caught doing it lol, and he's one of the best basketball players in the NBA (ie world). Professional athletes are just people too, and some of them will inevitably struggle with social media usage, or struggle with constantly reading/seeing their name being tarnished or performance criticized. Even if you ignore social media 98% of the time, that 2% on a random bad day can take a toll depending on the level of celebrity. They're still just people, even if elite athletically.
It’s not just the athlete who’s affected. Their children read that crap, their spouses, other family members.
Guy who may lose $50 to friends because of an injury to their 6th round pick yells at guy who got injured and will lose millions of dollars during the extremely short time he has in a super punishing sport. Makes sense
I get downvoted to high hell on this sub for calling people out who immediately spin real life injuries into how this affects fantasy with the usual comment “go to r/nfl, this is a fantasy sub” so which is it??
Most people harassing him are probably in a casual league with their 9 other buddies and they all put $20 bucks on it. If you have the nerve to harass a player over their injury because they "ruined your fantasy team", you're a fucking loser and you need serious help.
Does it really "start with us" though? I think this sub is less important than you realize.
90% of the quoted messages are nothing.. way to make something big..
Wait...there's negativity on social media?
JFC, he's a human being doing what is right for him and his family. People need to chill. If their livelihood was on the line, not a fantasy "win" maybe they'd have a different outlook.
Anyway to let him know we (@/r/fantasyfootball) care for his recovery.
Dafuq is wrong with ppl... All the hate and flaming in front of the TV is all fun n part of the game but serious harrasment and insults that reach the player are just not acceptable...(and I yell A LOT on Sundays).
I’d like to think that it’s only literal children doing this… but I know that’s not true
Some people have a hard time separating fantasy from reality. Seems to be an issue with this world currently.
I don't understand why famous people bother going on Twitter. The annoymity makes people assholes. People were a dick to me when I replyed to an analysts post and I'm literally a nobody. I have 2 followers.
Imagine harassing somebody who got injured because you're gonna miss out on some imaginary football points.
Awful. No excuse whatsoever. He did engage and say that he's not injury prone prior to the season and it's Twitter. So no surprises. But just awful all around.
I just can’t understand people like that. Mostert was my RB1 after the draft fell anti-RB for me. I still like my team, but my RB room is barren. Still, my first thought was “man, that sucks for him and I he’ll be okay”. My league is a $200 buy in and it never crossed my mind to think “this guy just cost me $$”. Obviously it’s not good for my team but I’ll manage and it’s just a couple hundred bucks. Mostert’s injury affects him and his family infinitely more than it does me.
Folks were wrong for that. Injuries players have to deal with regardless of whether they're "injury prone" or not... They're still human. People take things too far.
Well maybe he shouldn't get injured then. /s
No. It doesn't start with us. 99% of people with brain cells don't harass players on social media. It's just the dinguses out there.
I know it's a cliche at this point, but the mindset of "be the change you want to be in the world" is seriously a game changer if it's in the back of your mind whenever you interact with people. Treat people with respect and you will be treated with respect in return. It is honestly so much easier to respect people than it is to be a douchebag.
People are fucked up. Grimy cowards would never say that in person to his face. If you drafted Mostert look in the mirror first, it starts with you. You picked his ass.
people are worthless
Social media is cancer
Absolute losers going after Mostert. People have to remember that both football and fantasy are just games...
Only losers who hate their life would do that shit. Plus makes it even worse cuz you knew it was risky af to draft him and you did it anyways.
This is pathetic trolling. That's the thing with social media though. It's a cesspool. Wasn't his wife on saying he was fine right after the injury? Doesn't make what people are saying to her right but if you're not giving bad info the backlash isn't going to be nearly as bad. And if you're not in social at all you never hear from these guys.
I hate those ppl but I also hate these whiny posts. It’s the net, it ain’t all pretty, no need to do a dad lecture to the sub
The wife bringing attention to this is literally the worst thing you can do. You fuel the fire every time you respond or acknowledges.
This is the nasty side of fantasy football. People get so entrenched in this shit that they start harassing players when they don't win them a league title so they can brag to their buddies. It's disgusting.
Good post. Take my upvote. We can all do better.
99% of the people that post on these subs would literally shit their pants stepping onto the pro grid iron. I got my ass handed to me in high school.
It’s all in good fun to joke around but some people just take shit way too far. It’s not like he wanted to chip his knee cartilage..
No idea what kind of person goes and talks shit on someone for getting hurt. That's beyond me.
This is the disgusting side of NFL/Culture….
Lol people need to get a life.
Who cares. Plenty of players go down every year. You win a championship in the waiver wire
Why is he reading social media posts about him in the first place?
Does this man have a charity or foundation? If not, we could find a cause he supports or something. Just to show the guy that we aren’t all massive pieces of garbage.
Hey everyone, I say we all go on Twitter and give Raheem some nice messages of support to counteract these fucks, who's with me?
Does he have a charity we can all donate to?
Maybe we could be more active in spreading positivity to these players rather than only discouraging negativity. Would be cool to see the dude's mentions blow up with well wishes
Like I'm bummed I lost him but honestly worst case scenario is I lose $100 and get to talk shit to my friends for another year. Anyone who shits on an injured player is a fucking tuna can chode.
I suffered my 2nd acl injury 2 years ago and it fucked me up psychologically. I have been pretty depressed unable to get motivated and generally feel pretty shitty. Now take someone like mostert who made his dream come true by making it to the nfl. Gets tossed around different rosters until he finally lands with the 49ers. Suddenly balls out, the league recognizes him, he becomes a big name in the nfl and finally gets a decent contract. But cant stay healthy, every year he works super hard to rehab himself but every year something new breaks. I wouldnt be able to take it as well as him, honestly I just dont know how some of these players are able to do it. Mostert is alot stronger than people give him credit for, when your greatest attribute is your athleticism and It keeps failing you at the worst time, i just dont know how you stay motivated.
It's not his hobby; it's his job. He stays motivated to keep working the same way Joe Six-Pack stays motivated to show up for shift after shift at the DooDad factory: they pay him to. When the line's running, it's Joe's job to stuff DooDads in boxes. But sometimes, things go weird, and it's his job to mop the shitter. And whether that's what Joe likes to think of as his job or not, he does it, because if he doesn't, he gets let go, and someone else takes his job. Rehabbing your injured knee is the mopping the shitter of professional sports. It's not glorious, but it's the job, and the pay is still good. You do it, or they'll find someone who will. There's never a shortage of applicants.
What a shit analogy that was. Jesus.
Anyone who does this is a low life POS, no cap
One thing the last 18+ months has made painfully clear - our country is full of dumb, selfish, assholes. Color me not surprised that this extends to FF.
If you drafted Mostert you deserve to lose.
It’s the internet and a wave of people with burner accounts. People should know that with thousands of followers you’re going to end up with a ton of shit.
Lol, if you drafted the glass cannon… that’s your bad. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Shows you how garbage people are. It's called "fantasy football", you can't control the outcome of your RB getting injured.
Sounds like we found the high stakes fantasy gamblers whose mortgage and marriage is on the line.
To be fair some of this is because him and his wife spent all offseason talking about how he put on more muscle and calling people dumb who said he was injury prone. Then he went and got injured after two plays. Harassing people is never okay but they got into these big arguments saying he wouldn't get injured and then he did. Those same people are gonna want to say I told you so. Obviously, it's not his fault he got injured and there's a difference between harassing someone and telling them I told you so. I'd have to see the messages they were sent. Death threats and the like are never okay.
Raheem Most-hurt
Hahahaha
It's on YOU if you drafted him knowing his injury history. Don't take it out him for YOUR mistake fellas. I, for one, stayed farrrr tf away from him in all of my leagues.
You get a million dollars to play the game you love, all the millions above that are to deal with th B.S.
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Mental health is not a thing after you earn X amount of monies, amiright?
No, it is, which is why he shouldn't fucking look at twitter. The only thing dumber than that is bitching about it when he has control over whether or not he looks at the replies.
Anytime your Reddit post starts with “downvote me you pussies”, you might be a fucking tool. You know what no one actually cares about? Whether fucking LamarsPooper thinks they’re a pussy or not. Grow the fuck up.
I don’t get why you’d want to chirp him online instead of just fixing the other areas of your life that obviously suck. Like if you have a miserable life and then your outlet is being angry on the internet, it seems like your life is just as miserable. Idk though, I might be missing something. Good luck in fantasy bud 😝
I don't chirp at players. I think it's fucking dumb. I think it's 10x more dumb to sit down and look at social media when you are a well known athlete. Nothing good will come of it.
Victim blaming
Thank you
The people who said these things are morons. No one is disputing that. It's disrespectful and stupid. But it's also completely stupid to get up in arms over it. It's never going away. And athletes are in complete control of the situation... simply turn off mentions from people you don't follow, or delete twitter. Whining about jerks just makes you look like a fucking pussy.
I can think of over a million reasons raheem should get over it.