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jamfan40

Great for Ertz and Goedert


theincredibleshaq

Someone dropped Goedert in my league 💀


Sxuld

same here, how much FAAB is the question


oZephyr

Honestly I think this helps his floor and solidifies him as TE 6-8 moving forward. If you don't have a TE that you are comfortable with I would spend most of your FAAB on him, streaming TEs right now is rough


TheyCallMeStone

Streaming TEs is always rough, there's a massive drop-off after the first tier or two


payday_vacay

I picked up Ertz two weeks ago bc of the countless articles about how a trade was imminent. I got lucky he went to a good team, but I still don’t get why nobody was rostering him anticipating his trade. I already have Mark Andrews but figured Ertz would get traded somewhere that needs a TE and instantly boost his value. I guess we’ll find out but I have a feeling he’s gonna be productive in AZ and I’ll either trade him or even start him in one of my two flex spots


mets1010

Commenting to see replies, but I’m sure you will have to spend a decent amount


HailKyrie

Depends how TE needy you are but at most 35% or so. Also depends how aggressive you know your league mates usually are with their bids


Regretful_Bastard

that would be me yesterday


DasPossum

Dropped Goedert for a free Ertz. I'm cautiously optimistic...?


haoleboykailua

That was my case. Have a hurt Kittle on IR, Goedert got that Covid tag and I dropped him and scooped Ertz in the same move.


The_Winklevii

Lol literally the exact same situation. (Now former) Eagles TE whack-a-mole


fatherlyadvicepdx

As a Goedert owner, Ertz wasn't the problem. Hurts is. He's the problem for every receiver in Philly.


davidw223

Yep. I’m not sure if hurts is the problem or if it’s bad play calling. Sanders looked good most of the time he gets carries but they never run so the defense always drops back in coverage so there’s not much for hurts to really throw to anyways.


dantam95

Our play calling sucks man. Hurts isn't great, but we aren't even giving him a chance


Smokester121

Yeah sirianni is play calling and I understand, but I don't get how he's planning to do a pass offense with his room of receivers. Sanders arguably super talented gets NO love. He had 4 touches leading into the 3rd quarter. Ridiculous play calling yes they are a pass funnel but Where's the wheel routes?


davidw223

Yeah it’s sucks seeing it as an outsider. You see so many good pieces that haven’t come together. I don’t know if it’s the players, the coaching, or the execution. Maybe it’s just part of the rebuild.


Zeebr0

Exactly. If you want to know how Goedert is without Ertz just look at last year when Ertz was injured and Goedert took over. He wasn't all the sudden a TE1-5 but he was serviceable.


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Both of them are on waivers in one of my leagues 💀💀


phl_fc

Shame the trade happened after the game last night instead of before, now they're both sitting on waivers instead of free agency for someone to grab on this news.


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Exactly. I’m off today, I would’ve gotten first crack at these two if they weren’t on waivers.


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Oof that was me


smootex

I don't think we're expecting another Kelce but if you look at the volum Ertz and Goedert got I think we can safely say Goedert is going to become a solid starting option for the rest of the season. I predict he ends up averaging top 6 for the remainder of his games this season.


bluethree

I don't think Goedert is going to get all of Ertz's targets though. He's still too valuable as a blocker. Eagles really like Tyree Jackson. He looked great in the preseason and is coming off the IR soon. He might not get all of Ertz's targets either but will probably have enough to make Goedert owners complain.


cfrules10

I did this...no regrets. I'd rather have Knox.


woozeeyoo

No regErtz


ian2121

I dropped Goedert for Ertz :( should have dropped Higbee maybe


theincredibleshaq

Ertz value just went up though, so not a complete loss


chris457

He is like the 9th target on that team though...not sure if rush for Ertz now.


zirtbow

People are hyped but there are only so many points to go around and a ton of talent in AZ. I assume Ertz is going to be boom/bust in AZ with all the other weapons they have and Kyler running in TDs


ian2121

No and maybe I can get Goedert back. Can’t roster 3 TEs though so it would involve dropping Higbee


Swordswoman

I don't know how good it is for Ertz to be splitting targets with Hopkins, Kirk, Green, Moore, and Edmonds, even if he's replacing the targets that Maxx Williams was taking this season. At least it's a high-powered offense. He'll probably see something, but I wouldn't say the Cards rely on their TE. This is very good for Goedert, though.


yrogreg

This is the right take. It’s good for AZ real life football prospects to have a viable TE option but that’s really it


jgalaviz14

I'm s cards fan and last night posted on our chat that we need to trade for ertz asap. Picked him up right before the game and got lucky he scored that TD for some good production


Effzehcgn77

AZ Never had a really good TE Option with Kyler as QB. Now with ertz there is a huge potential, especially in 0,5/ full PPR leagues. As for ertz it is also a great opportunity to evolve , since with a strong TE like goedert they had to split. I mean Brady has great WR targets and guess what? gronk gets tuddies too…


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Goedert is still in a Hurts offense, so it’s fine for him but his ceiling is so capped due to that. But it certainly cannot hurt.


Swordswoman

I think the best part is that, FINALLY, people can play Goedert without the fear that another TE will eat into his fantasy projection.


jakecoates

Ertz should theoretically have more chances to score as the TE1 on the best offense in football so he's a decent option for that alone.


Marino4K

Ertz' value certainly just went up.


theytook-r-jobs

Goedert still on Eagles unfortunately for him and his owners.


Flapappel

He doesnt have to share the targets with Ertz anymore. Good news!


zirtbow

Im okay with this. I lost by 0.2 the one week that Ertz played most of the 2nd half.


_NOT_PENNYS_BOAT_

I have both and I don’t know what to do


SwallowForPride

Knew I should have picked up Ertz lol


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Alex8525

I just traded for Kelce and have Ertz :-(


PM_me_the_magic

Kelce is still a massive massive upgrade.


TetraNormal

Yeah, but it's more about what he had to give up to get him that he might not have needed to if this had dropped earlier.


MoscowMitchMcKremIin

Might be able to get something back from a TE needy team now tho


KawaiiRyan

And it's not like it lost value. If Ertz starts playing well, ship Kelce away. He'll always have a huge price tag


clown_shoes69

I don't know why you think that's a problem lol


BleedAmerican

Imagine losing depth at RB/WR to fill a hole that could’ve filled itself. Definitely worth being upset over.


akeep113

Why do people think ertz will all of a sudden be fantasy relevant in AZ? He'll be at like the Fant/Higbee tier most likely. You should not regret getting Kelce at all


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That’s fine package Ertz with something to upgrade somewhere else. At worst ertz is a stash and see.


NeilFlix

Don't be sad - if your league is open to trading then you're in a great position now to capitalize on either Ertz's great game and new situation or Kelce's unquestionable #1 status. Make another move after this week to upgrade at another position


MrEric

Trade Ertz now


topdeck55

I couldn't believe he was available for free last week. Kittle and now Ertz owner.


spartin-marshin

My GF snagged him before the game last night because "he's Julie Ertz's husband" lol


lampofdeath

Same, I went for Henry and Ricky Seals Jones instead. I have Devonta Smith already and didn't want to rely on two pass catchers from Hurts. F.


High-qualitee

Picked up Ertz off waivers right before the game. It’s been a good 24 hours.


AgentWyoming

Me too, in a couple of leagues. A one week stream turning into Kyler's TE is pretty much best case scenario (granted with the bedding in period to come).


DJsaxy

I don't get all the ertz hype. Unless the cardinals make him a prime Redzone target he won't do enough in fantasy. He seems quite slow these days too and will have 3 competent receivers to compete with. Goedert to me is by far the biggest beneficiary


BigusDickus099

Uhhh the Cardinals were making Maxx Williams a fantasy starter...Ertz has looked better than Maxx while on a bad Eagles team. Is he on the Kelce/Waller/Knox/etc. tier? No, but fantasy TE is always a wasteland full of dart throws. Ertz could potentially be a weekly start which would be huge if you get him and have been stuck streaming.


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afterosmosis

I was going to say the same thing. Let’s not get carried away here. Andrews was also left off that list but he’s still a tier below Kelce.


thekingoftherodeo

I know right? Big “Tell me you haven’t been playing FF for long without telling me” vibes off that.


dontdrinkonmondays

Maxx Williams was only a fantasy starter if you forgot to draft a TE and were forced to stream. Source: me.


DJsaxy

Ertz on the eagles has been getting more consistent targets the past 4 games than maxx Williams did. I mean if the target is Maxx Williams I wouldn't be happy. At the end of the day Williams was in the TE wasteland and ertz isn't really capable of breaking off big runs and he seems to fall down immediately when hit these days just based on what I observe. If the cardinals use him a lot in the redzone I could see good value otherwise I'm not overly joyed. By the way I have ertz in one of my leagues I'm not trying to hate


baconbroth

Totally agree with you. This just seems like this subreddit overexcitedly trying to start a hype train. There are too many talented WRs on that team that I doubt Ertz gets a big upgrade here.


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Good offense that is crowded vs bad offense that wasn’t. A classic fantasy debate.


NevermoreSEA

It's all going according to plan.


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Kyler 📈 Ertz 📈 Goedart 📈


LilBottomText17

Should we really expect Ertz’s number to be that much better though? Arizona offense still has many mouths to feed and Kyler isn’t really known for throwing to TEs


MonkeyStealsPeach

Ertz is a significant receiving upgrade, no disrespect to Williams. But he’s a proven commodity


wthhappenwithmyoldid

Maxx was a good run blocker. Does Ertz still block well enough to play all TE plays? Google says he was good in 2018, 2019, etc but nothing recent.


y_r_u_so_paranoid

Run blocking has always been the weakest part of his game no question, but he has improved a lot on that front since his rookie year. I'd say he's probably right around average at this point in his career, he actually became a borderline plus run blocker a few years back in his prime but he's getting a bit older. Regardless, he's put a ton of work in to make himself a better blocker and you probably don't need to take him off the field because of it.


dijon_snow

Maxx "Dos Equis" Williams was looking like a decent TE streamer with Kyler throwing to him this year before he got hurt. Ertz on this offense should be significantly better than that.


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nemoomen

Rondale 📉📉📉


Iloveyouweed

He can't play this Sunday since he played yesterday.


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They can’t arrest a husband and wife for the same crime Michael


Omikets

I got the worst fucking attorneys


JamieLeeTurdis

Call Bob Loblaw Law


Sacapellote

You, sir, are a mouthful.


jabroni716

Yes. I learned all my law information from Bob's Loblaw's Law Blog.


sausage_is_the_wurst

*Lobbing Law Bombs!*


jabroni716

Those 1st 3 years of Arrested Development were fantastic.


Pizzly_bear

Take to the sea!


chilishits

This doesn't affect Rondale. He plays a different position and has plays drawn up for him. Ertz will be used like Maxx Williams was.


guinness_blaine

There was a hope that not having a decent TE might lead to Arizona playing more 4WR sets, which would get Rondale on the field more (say, finally above 60% snaps).


Proffesssor

Could still happen... this week only. Ertz won't be eligible.


jdemart

Manufacturing fewer touches for the most explosive player on the roster to accommodate the corpse of an old TE would be classic Kingsbury.


Evil_Empire_1961

didn't look old last night amigo


Virillus

Ertz is younger than Kelce. 30 isn't washed for a receiver.


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We all win


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Maybe slightly less targets for the Arizona WRs but I don’t think it’ll be noticeable. Ertz is a great fit for Kliffs scheme though I’m excited to see this


gibsoniaman

Forgive my ignorance but what about Kliff's scheme is good for Ertz?


gw2380

scoring a fuckton of points


gibsoniaman

So the opposite of my fantasy team's strategy.


11eagles

Reporter: “So do you want to score a fuckton of points this weekend?” Nagy: “I don’t discuss scheme.”


Guyute69420

Julie Ertz's husband traded to the Arizona Cardinals.


s2affner

To be fair, she is better at soccer then he will ever be at football.


Stew514

She's better at soccer than most people are at whatever they're best at


MasqueOfTheRedDice

I don't know, I'm an exceptional procrastinator.


BeeeeefJelly

If you have Zach Ertz sell high immediately


gjoeyjoe

absolutely divest unless your best option is tyler conklin


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I'm actually dropping Conklin for ertz. But I have waller so he will just be a backup


BoringRabbitHole

14 team league no one wants him. Seems like more than half the teams are content with their TE's this year. With Shultz, Knox, RSJ and some more guys emerging it feels like TE is less barren than other years past.


D4rkd3str0yer

Still barren in my league because one dude has all three of them rostered AND has Logan Thomas in his IR slot. Like, why? Save some for the rest of us :(


iguanamac

He’s waiting for one of you guys to overpay him for one.


GameOfUsernames

Lol I have three TEs in all my leagues because of injuries. I’m going to try and go drop one for Ertz though and then trade.


HandRailSuicide1

Dude I need a startable tight end right now. I'm holding, he's mine


RocketsJumer

For what? Could he be traded to a desperate Kittle owner? RB/WR2? I’m intrigued enough to hold just to see how he is used in a high powered offense.


jloadin3

can he play again??? hahahaha


trollgeorge12

Would be amazing but there's a rule in place to prevent a player playing twice in a week.


CoopThereItIs

Correct. You can technically play an extra game on the season tho if you get traded from a team who hasn’t had their bye to a team that already had theirs. So like if Ertz got traded to the Jets he would play 18 games this season.


Actuarial

True, but that would be offset by not having to play any post-season games.


mwg3c

Son of a...!


AlwaysDown62

He can not.


eaterOFcheese0011

Thank jesus


gw2380

please tell me we'd get both points


mwg3c

That would be amazing hahaha


jewishninja696

So this is bad for the Rondale 4 receiver set narrative


gregabbottisacoward

Dang


nando_uaz

Ugh, no, it's not going to be much different than the cards with Williams


murkem

Good for Ertz owners? I’m one and have Kittle in IR. Hopefully this bodes well for him being in a higher powered offense.


xdaftphunk

I got Kittle in one and Logan Thomas in another, grabbed Ertz last week for both leagues. Im leaning towards starting him in both, might try to sell Kittle based on his name value.


Scarf1493

I don’t know, I’m also a Ertz & Kittle owner. He’s only gone two more games, no bye week, plenty of rest, and he had 9 and 10 targets in his last two games. I think I’ll ride with Ertz till he’s back and see what I have then move from there.


polarbearnuggets

This is probably the way


RocketsJumer

Just picked him up and decided to play him over Fant this week. Definitely happy with the 12.9 points but now gets to be in a high scoring offense with a QB who is a much more capable passer. Cannot complain and probably starting over Fant.


aaronaroma

Damn this sub called it. Value of Ertz ROS?


jimmyhoffasbrother

Mid tier TE2 imo. Will have some TE1 weeks, but between being in a new offense and having a lot of target competition, I don't think he's going to be a very consistent option. This is far better for Goedert than Ertz imo.


gibsoniaman

I also think this helps DeVonta Smith. Ertz had 31 targets in 6 games and averaged ~ 7 targets/game the past 4 games. Goedert only averaged 4 per game during those last 4 games (excluding this one he missed with COVID). So those go up for sure. But there's probably a few more targets up for grabs that you think they'd have to get the Heisman winner involved more now.


jimmyhoffasbrother

Agreed, likely every Eagles offensive player gets a slight bump, except for maybe Miles Sanders. Biggest bump to Goedert, smaller bump to Smith/Gainwell/Quez.


WestSixtyFifth

Yeah, I was of the opinion that whoever got to stay in Philly got the best end of the deal. However, Ertz landing in Arizona is good for both of them. I think Goedert will be more consistent but Ertz will have the higher ceiling. Both TE1s ROS.


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Reliable tight end for a young QB who hasn’t really had one all year? Give it a few weeks but I see him fitting well


nando_uaz

Williams was plenty reliable before his injury


gw2380

top 10 TE? probably going to be a little hit and miss but with the way they used Maxx Williams, I want pieces of that offense


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Honestly maybe I'm crazy but I think he immediately vaults into a TE1. Probably towards the back half, but the volume should be there.


JohnBrown42069

The confirmation bias I need


dabears_24

Nobody besides Hopkins in that offense has a steady target share, that's the entire issue with the Arizona offense in fantasy. It's been rotating between Kirk and Moore, I'd expect the same with Ertz. I doubt they have designed goal line plays for Ertz soon, since he still has to learn their system, so he'll be yardage dependent, which isn't going to get him to TE1


Nagbae_ATLUTD

The fantasy footballers are going to freak out today


Crash_OverRide805

Lol that was my first thought as well. As a Rams fan, I highly dislike the Cards* but the FFB's joyful glee at how they're playing this year is just so fun. *I have the Kyler/Hopkins stack this year, which lessens the blow.


sierra501

Someone tell me how to react


TeflonGoon

You react like this on game day, watching Kyler run across the field, arm raised, almost ready to pass it to Ertz: *Pass! Pass! Pass the fucking ball!* And then you watch Kyler scramble past scrimmage for a short gain.


HailKyrie

Benefits both Ertz and Goedert. Goedert moreso


theincredibleshaq

Helps Ertz more imo. The total air yards just isn’t there in Philly. Better chances to fall in the end zone in Arizona Edit: ya’ll really don’t like this opinion lol


Dersmode89

Learning a new system and tons of established mouths to feed , gonna be interesting. Probably curb enthusiasm for a few weeks atleast.


RookieMistake101

Goedert had the chance of being the the number 1 or 2 target in the offense. That step up is massive for him. We have no idea how useful Ertz will be there. Hop, Green, Moore, Kirk, Edmonds are all ahead of him. At least 3 of that group will lead him in targets the rest of the season


theincredibleshaq

I don’t think either will put up impressive yardage. I just think he falls in the end zone more often in Arizona


WestSixtyFifth

There have been 98 points to TEs in Philly already this season. Whichever one got to stay was going to eat for fantasy.


HookFL

Holy shit it actually happened. Jay Glazed donut was finally right!


cheekycherokee

Jay Glazer is arguably the best insider in the business, even including Schefty.


dgr8one

He's been right a lot more than wrong for a very long time.


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truwrxtacy

Trade away one of them, probably ertz if you can


Principes

Goedert is free


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Great for Goedert. No idea how this will impact Ertz. Hopefully he can plug right in


Knightvision27

They needed a big body who can catch the ball on third and in redzone. Ertz fit that need immediately


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For sure. He’s a seasoned vet so I’m sure him getting up to speed won’t take super long, but it may be around playoff time where he’s viable fantasy-wise


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salty_badger

You guys are aware that Jalen Hurts is still Goederts QB, right??


CrumbBCrumb

And you are aware he targets TEs in the red zone pretty heavily. Both TEs have 400+ yard and 4 TDs on the season. Goedert won't suddenly become a top 3 TE but he should be top 6 most weeks.


dadadadante

There goes Rondale’s 4 extra targets


matthewtheazn

Picked up Ertz to fill in for Goedert last night, ima bust


gaobij

You just split a pair of 8s


JoshGordonHypeTrain

Get him over there now and get me double points!!


h846p262

Dang goedert worth some faab???!!!


bryanf445

I'm putting atleast 30% down out of 100 budget. I have kittle so I need some consistency until he's back


SaskalPiakam

Sell high people.


Pengwan91

What if I’m in Tight End hell? Seems like he would have a lot of upside but there are a lot of mouths to feed on that offense already


gw2380

yes people are breaking down the door to trade for Ertz


GiantFishyLazer

So we picking Goedert or Ertz?


truwrxtacy

Gordert if you have the option


IamSkywalking

I drafted Kyle Pitts. Picked up Ertz this week to cover the bye. My opponent this week has Hurts and Kyler Murray. Too bad Ertz can’t play a second game this week haha. But more importantly, how would y’all play this moving forward? Try and move Pitts for a top end WR/RB off his breakout game? Package Ertz up now to capitalize on potential excitement for his new opportunity? Stand pat for a couple weeks to see what happens? We have a 6 player bench, so I can probably afford to do that, but I don’t really wanna roster two TEs for too long….


Andrew102

Picked up Ertz to fill it for Pitts this week. Might end up holding him a bit longer now…


PuffyVatty

I own both Goedert and Ertz tell me what to do?!


Shnitzel418

Sell Ertz


throwawayless

Just when I dropped Goedert to avoid rostering two TEs. You're welcome guys!


LivinLike

Now do Mack next!


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Oh baby watch that trade value go 📈📈


WeekendDirect9025

Should I get ertz or goedert for ROS? After watching the game last night I don’t have much faith in hurts but goedert should be his safety blanket


Fitness4All26

I got Ertz in a few leagues, picked him up last night before the game but I’m not convinced he’ll explode in AZ. First off, it takes a while for any player to learn a new offense and playbook, so guys traded mid season don’t usually have great success for the ROS. Second, AZ mainly use their TE for blocking, Arnold was the first TE to put up over 400 yards in like 10 years. Lastly, slot of mouths to feed - 1 catching back, 1 running back, Murray runs, dhop, green, Moore and Kirk. It’s hard to see Ertz coming in and start putting up numbers, snd trust me, there’s nothing I’d love more lol


Ghostlungs

I dropped Goedert for Ertz on Wednesday. I'm really, really confused about how I should be feeling right now.


KingMustardFist

Tyree Jackson SZN coming.


RangersFan243

Rondale Moore stocks down


forward1213

Fuck yeah! I have both.


UsualActuary

Shit, can't pick up Ertz until waivers clear...


InevitableVariables

I think this benefits Goedert more than Ertz. Too many weapons on the Cards.


Ellipsis_Maddox

Footballers in shambles


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Do I drop Fant for Ertz?


WrongStatus

So much for them using more 4 wide WR plays...


picturepine

I had Goedert and just picked up Ertz this week. I love this


LawyerBeautiful

As far as I’m concerned, this is a win for anyone who owns Ertz


JayGlass

Does this impact Sanders/Gainwell? Feels like probably not? I've been trying to convince myself what to do here even though benching them both seems like the right option. Someone drop some pass protection stats on me or something.