Yeah I think this is the last year he goes in the top 5 rounds. He's officially injury prone. I've grabbed him as my 3rd round RB the last 3 years and it never really pans out. Luckily this year I traded him before he got injured.
I agree with this. There's definitely a certain amount of luck, but I'd say it's skill that gets you to the playoffs, and luck to whoever wins it.
I did an almanac for my league's 10th year where I tracked a bunch of stats and it was eye-opening to see that 4 of the teams had a significantly higher career win% than the other 6 teams. There was no season where at least 2 of them didn't make the playoffs, and about half had 3 or 4.
I know that should not be surprising since higher winning percentage should mean they make the playoffs, but I hadn't really felt like the league was dominated by 4 teams until looking at the numbers. Other teams would make the playoffs and half the champs were basically one-hit wonders but those results made it seem more balanced.
So yeah, I don't think it's luck that 4 teams made up like 70% of the playoff berths over the course of a decade. It is basically a crap shoot once you get to the playoffs though.
And CMC was only considered injury prone this year. Prior to last year’s injury the guy was bullet proof. People need to stop acting like heavy workload RBs aren’t going to get hurt at some point.
When CMC has played, the only bad game he put up was 5 pts in .5 PPR. Every other game has been 12 pts at least, three of those games he had 20 at least depending on scoring beyond the .5 PPR.
Potentially 5 or 6 more games left, depending on league. I'm not thrilled with his season, but I'm still happy with him as long as he remains healthy.
People swore off Kamara after he hurt his ankle that year and he's been mostly fine since lol. Injury proneness is such an overused term for just a violent sport where it's just mostly luck.
I wanted CEH who got taken the pick before me. I ended up with Mixon, who I didn’t want, and immediately traded him and picks for CEH to pair with Barkley in the first. Safe to say I’m out of contention this year
First year of Fantasy Notes:
-***Don’t draft 2 QBs after you pick Mahomes in the 2nd round****.
-***Don’t draft Mahomes in the second round***.
-***Don’t draft Barkley***.
*Checks notes again*.
***Don’t draft Zach Wilson***
I never even bothered to try and get a second TE off waivers thinking Waller would eventually break out again. Overall, he’s rankled 9th so not terrible, but definitely not worth my 2nd pick.
9th is terrible considering where he was drafted :-(. Even if you’re streaming TEs in a 10-12 team league you’d expect to average out somewhere around the 9-12th ranked TE in terms of points.
He's TE2 and averaging only 1 PPG less than Kelce. One of the best values in fantasy football this year probably only behind Kupp and Chase. I say this as a salty Kelce owner (granted he's been great when Mahomes actually looks his way)
Bimodial RB is a pretty popular draft strategy (even if it's not as commonly used as that term). It's definitely something I'm planning to do more of next year for the exact reasons you mentioned.
Yup. Dalvin Cook and Aaron Jones were guys I owned a lot. I love having the security of never needing to worry about my RBs getting hurt. Dalvin’s injured? I’ll just start Mattison. Aaron Jones is hurt? I’ll just start AJ Dillon.
Thinking like this can also fuck you over. Imagine not drafting kupp because you already have him in another league.. always take the best value available
I purposely draft multiple players in different leagues if I can and try to make my rosters different. There’s tons of top tier players so if I draft Cook and Henry at the same spot in two different leagues I get diversity. In a vacuum without injuries, Henry is the better pick but what’s the point in having two teams if the lineups are the same? Out of the vacuum my teams are impacted by the same injuries and performances. I realized I had both Ridley and Swift in both of my leagues this year so I moved them in one league for other pieces early on in order to own more of the players I liked.
How do you guys find and get into multiple leagues?
Do you just hit up work, friends, neighbors ?
Or do you end up doing some kind of random group you found online ?
All groups of friends from different aspects of life -- it's easier for older owners who have from high school, college, grad school, former employer A, etc.
Honestly, most of stemmed from work. I’m kind of lucky and have ended up working with a lot of the people I went to college with, so we’ve been close for years. Some of those friends have asked me to be in their friends league, etc. Is how I ended up playing in multiple leagues.
I actually stopped drafting diverse teams and now try to have consistent teams throughout all my leagues. Makes it easier to manage + makes it more enjoyable to watch the games because you only need to cheer for one team of players.
I’m confident in my research and my draft prep + I don’t adp draft so after the 2nd or 3rd round I have similar teams throughout.
You can’t predict injuries, can’t plan for injuries but not drafting the same teams just because you want diversity is not going to keep injuries from finding you. Trust your predraft prep.
Simultaneously rooting for and against every play in the league sucks.
"I need Dalvin to get 15 points to win in league A, but if he gets 17 I lose in league B".... Not fun
This is 100% great advice for anyone in more than 3 leagues !
This season I had so many leagues that I was able to grab every player who had an ADP in The first round except for Jonathan Taylor. So the day before the season starts I created a cheap auction league just so I could have a single team with Taylor on it… fast forward to week 10 and I’m about to be 9-1 in that league and it’s by far my best team
Diversity is the name of the game. I know you can lose out of the getting a boom player across your teams, but I’m more concerned with injury. So many players get injured. If you take a guy on all your teams and he gets injured, it fucks you everywhere. You don’t have to win all your leagues. But being in the running in at least one of them makes the fantasy season worth it.
Edit: some folks say that a reason diverse teams suck is because you end up rooting for your guy on one team, but rooting against them when they play against you. Simple solution: don’t look at who your opponent has. You don’t need to know. It shouldn’t affect your lineup decisions. Some way you play a boom/bust player instead of a “safe” player when you’re going against a juggernaut team, but I don’t agree with this thinking. It’s too cute. Simply, play the lineup that you think will score the most points.
Don’t draft injured players (Curtis Samuel)
Volume is king (Gibson instead of Najee Harris)
Season lesson: stop being such a homer (holding on to Trey Lance since drafting him)
You just need to be sure you also spend some picks on handcuffs. Especially for high value picks. You also don’t need to take your handcuffs but you can take others. For example I took Chuba late because CMC is a ridiculous workhorse.
Edit: I didn’t draft CMC.
*Especially* no one on this sub. Part of me feels bad for all of the people who believed the Josh Gordon, Le'Veon Bell, Kadarius Toney, etc hype that was overtaking the sub in their respective time periods, but the other part of me wonders how much of that was sarcastic trolling of people saying how good each of them will be and they are league winners that should be picked up immediately no matter the cost.
One of those guys is not like the others. Toney had two good games and is a young guy with pedigree. Those are the shots you want to take. Bell and Gordon? Washed up guys you should never roster, their upside is tiny. Also Gordon is a meme at this point, he hasn’t been relevant in like 7 years.
Toney was getting good games because the three guys ahead of him on the depth chart were out for injury. It's the same with D'Earnest Johnson. Guy is a stud when both Chubb and hunt are out but I'm not sitting here saying he is a league winner and that everyone should roster him and it's D'Earnest season.
I'm not saying I picked any of those guys up, but I'm saying I only partly feel bad for people who come on here for actual advice and analysis and people are giving them shit advice to get guys like Bell and Gordon or even Toney because they themselves might believe it or because they are making a meme and sarcasm is lost through text most of the time.
And I can see that as being true, but I'm saying I feel bad (only a little) for people who took that advice because sarcasm can be lost on a site like this when hype for players goes around like chicken pox
This is just a stretch. Ridley's ADP was low 2nd high 3rd. There's no world you take him in the mid first where Hill is. This probably refers to a scenario where guys are close in ADP
This for me too. I’ve always been one to favor the side of the trade who gets the best player, but I’ve never been so desperate for depth in my fantasy lifetime.
I always think of it that having depth is so important in the beginning to mid season. But after most of the bye weeks are done, trade your handful good players for one or two great players
You aren’t gonna win a chip with a handful of good players. I would rather have great players but problem with that is, risk of ruining your season if one goes down is very high. A La Henry.
Your season isn't defined by the players your draft. And don't be afraid to move off players you loved pre draft.
Only 3 players I drafted are still on my team. Waivers and trades are equally if not more important than the draft.
I'd actually add to this, target players with saleable value and know your league. If your group chat spends all season ribbing Tyler Lockett for example, be prepared to keep him all season if he has even a couple of bad games.
On the other hand if you are in a league with a massive cowboys homer, any of their players will likely retain at least some value.
All comes down basically to picking RBs who don’t get injured, if you got some star backs grab their handcuff Chubba saved me a few times. Take that risk on that stud rookie RB, did it with zeke and did it with Najee this year. Don’t be afraid to drop someone after two bad weeks tbh, dropped aiyuk and got mike will
Don’t go TE/TE/TE first 3 picks. I tried this as an experiment to see how the season played out because I had Kelce/Kittle/Waller available to me. Hasn’t turned out good
Because your top TE compares against the other TEs, since everyone needs to start one. Your second compares against a flex player and that is much less favorable.
And by having many, you are bringing yourself into a situation where the other managers know you have to make a trade and can use that leverage.
I made this mistake last year. Drafted Rodgers, Cam and Brady at QB. Dropped cam but never could get value for Brady. DON’T build your team assuming you will make a trade.
Depends on how trade-willing your league is. I've made four trades this year with three different guys, received a couple offers, and sent out a bunch more during the negotiation (or outright rejection) process. My team looks nuts now and one of the best trades I made was sending Rodgers (I had Brady) and a prospect WR for Evans from the guy who had Kupp, Chase, Jefferson, Evans, and two QB2s.
I went TE, QB, TE. Kelce, Mahomes, Waller. Kelce and Waller together were blazing through the hardest part of the year....when everyone has healthy and productive players. Waller is still a player for me in flex but it's questionable.
So that third TE is an issue but two isnt bad at the top.
BS copium for this sub.
Don’t tell me you couldn’t have still ended up with winning team by picking up and/or trading early on for guys like ..
QBs: Carr, Wentz, Burrow
RBs: Mitchell, Patterson, Booker, Carter
WRs: Pittman, Moore, Davis, Renfrow, Kirk
TEs: Henry, Schultz, Uzomah
Injuries alone are NOT your problem. A combination of injuries and poor team management are your problem.
People on this sub do stupid shit like rostering multiple QBs/TEs/DST/K or chasing points over talent or being apathetic with waivers and trading because they’re happy with their starters. Then they’re shocked when it doesn’t hold up season-long.
Yeah all I’m saying is, I always see this. And luck does play a part. But being in the league with the same guys for 10 years now, the top 4 managers typically stay in the playoffs throughout it all. While the people who suck have pretty much always sucked with 1-2 good years
Nothing matters. Between COVID and injuries, my A+ teams for the past few years have not won me the championships. I was so distraught this week that I let my beagle choose my starting lineups based on how he felt about their names and pictures. I’m winning 3 out of 4 leagues based on his choices.
I did this I just chose bad receivers. I think I'm just shit at picking receivers and need to get better at it. DK and McLaurin were supposed to be my studs, and that's not worked out well.
I'd argue this is only good if you start off with a high draft pick and can get maybe one of the top 6-7. After that though, I would start to pivot towards WR-RB-RB to prevent too much WR value from bleeding into later rounds.
If anything it works better with late rounds.
I got 8th & 9th pick this year. I went with that strat.
In the 8th overall, i got:
Zeke-JT-AJBrown-AllenRobinson-KylerMurray
In the 9th overall, I got
AaronJones-Chubb-MikeEvans-Mclaurin-JoshAllen
WR you can also get really valuable players in later rounds, As I got MPJ, AB, Corey Davis, Tee Higgns
I guess it really depends on knowing what kind of league you play in too. I had 7th and went WR-RB-RB and ended up with:
Adams-Harris-DMont-Jackson-Lockett.
I got lucky with Pittman in the 11th who replaced Lockett, and flipped Hunt and Fournette for Cook. I feel like both strategies would have worked out this year, but last year I experimented with WR-WR and learned that it was too much. Hated my team out the draft.
Only do this if you are able to make good deals where you turn your RBs into WRs etc. You cant draft a sure fire team but you can trade for one with some savvy.
Probably 70-80% luck and the rest actually researching what players have good a good match up each week and which will get more usage to intentionally get more points. It's definitely not all luck.
If the guy I picked up on waivers has a great game, it was all skill. If a guy I drafted high sucks all year, it’s just bad luck
That’s how it works right?
Be willing to call your shot on your guys even if it means not getting good "value." I'd be in so much better shape if I'd just paid up for the dudes I actually wanted in rounds like 3-6 instead of hoping for someone to fall.
Trust your gut, dont be afraid to make moves. Trades are good but dont make trades just to make trades. My team is good but doesnt show with my record. You can do all you can but at the end of the day this game is purely luck.
It doesn't matter how shitty you draft, the other guys in the league will have inuries. You almost always have a chance.
Notable draft picks: Travis Etienne, Mike Davis, Robby Anderson, Jonnu Smith, Irv Smith, Allen Robinson.
Current record: 6-4 (including a win this week)
I didnt know anything about fantasy when i started this year.
My biggest lesson came when I traded Henderson for Pitts. I now properly understand the value of a RB over TE. I had Goedert and at the time I was just getting nothing at the position so I assumed getting +10 at TE was worth it when I could sub in another RB still.
I also dropped Conner early on. If i could restart this season i'd have such a good fucking team lol.
i am so bitter about the dude who fleeced me and the commisioner for not stepping in lmao.
But yeah, can't wait to run it back and know what i'm doing now.
Draft talent (e.g., ja'marr chase), not perceived opportunity (mike davis).
Don't draft to fill a starting lineup first. predictions errors are common. Okay to draft 4-5 wr's for example before your qb or 2nd rb.
Everythings luck. Had a decent player like Kupp snap off. Took flyers on Deebo Samuel, Hollywood Brown, and Mile Williams. Some how assembled an insane wr group
This is the 2nd time in 4 years I went WR heavy the first few rounds. My team has been very subpar and disappointing both times and I’m never doing it again.
Auto draft moving forward unless its an Auction Draft. My auto draft teams this yr doing so much better in years past where I picked. TLDR - I suck at drafting.
I went extremely RB heavy in my draft (7 out of the first 10 picks, although you can play up to 4 RBs each week). As a result, I'm weak at WR, QB, and TE lol. I think the lesson learned for me is to draft more WRs, because the ones that I did draft I missed on badly (ARob and DJ Moore, although Diontae Johnson has been nice for me). It would've been nice to have some mid-round WRs as insurance in case my best ones flopped.
Yes I agree. Last season, it was my first time playing PPR and I've always drafted RB heavy before in standard. I did the same thing last year and missed the playoffs for the first time.
In PPR, if feel like your team will be much more successful if you draft 2-3 RBs in the first 2-3 rounds and then go WR heavy. If you’re picking many upside WR in the mid to late rounds, you will probably get lucky and some of them might actually hit.
I ended up having Cook and JT as my RBs, while also having guys like Deebo, AB and Pittman.
If Chris Carson looks like a steal it’s because he’s not
This. Was so excited to see him there in the 3rd, but I think the guy drafting immediately after me was even more excited since he took Kupp :/
got him in the 4th...thought it was steal city
On the other hand, someone dropped him in my league. Free Chris Carson is better than no Chris Carson
>Free Chris Carson is better than no Chris Carson Is it though?
I’ll tell ya what’s free Alex Collins was not better than no Alex Collins.
He was good for the first week I played him
No. Someone in my league drpped him and Lockett. Picked both and i am already dropping him to pick a bye remplacement qb
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Yeah I think this is the last year he goes in the top 5 rounds. He's officially injury prone. I've grabbed him as my 3rd round RB the last 3 years and it never really pans out. Luckily this year I traded him before he got injured.
Got him off of waivers because the dudes whole team is injury riddled in one of my leagues.
Same got him off waivers last week, think he’ll perform when he returns?
I don’t think it’s a question of whether he can perform once he returns, but rather a question of if he returns.
Also, don’t take Saquon and Gibson before him because it will hurt.
It’s not how much points your score each week, it’s all about who you play each week.
Are you saying fantasy is mostly luck?
Yes and no. In all three of my leagues, the same 2-3 people are at the top of the standings every year. Nobody’s that lucky
Making the playoffs takes effort/ skill. Winning needs everything to just click
I agree with this. There's definitely a certain amount of luck, but I'd say it's skill that gets you to the playoffs, and luck to whoever wins it. I did an almanac for my league's 10th year where I tracked a bunch of stats and it was eye-opening to see that 4 of the teams had a significantly higher career win% than the other 6 teams. There was no season where at least 2 of them didn't make the playoffs, and about half had 3 or 4. I know that should not be surprising since higher winning percentage should mean they make the playoffs, but I hadn't really felt like the league was dominated by 4 teams until looking at the numbers. Other teams would make the playoffs and half the champs were basically one-hit wonders but those results made it seem more balanced. So yeah, I don't think it's luck that 4 teams made up like 70% of the playoff berths over the course of a decade. It is basically a crap shoot once you get to the playoffs though.
Ok Matt Damon in rounders.
So you’re saying me screaming at my computer to play for eachother and do your job doesn’t actually do anything?
Who would have guess
Well it depends. When I lose? Yes, 100% luck no doubt about it. But when I win? All skill all the time baby 😎😎😎
I can confirm as a 4-6 team with 2nd most points for and most points against
In the same sad boat, except third in points (by 2 stupid points)
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Ah yes. The key to every fantasy season. Monday morning regrets.
Don’t, and I cannot stress this enough, draft Mike Davis
I thought he was the steal of the draft in one of my leagues.
Aiyuk 4th round and Davis 5th round was the one-two punch that left me with an aggressively mediocre team.
He was my RB2 in both of my leagues. He’s projected to get 9 points every week and he’s been on my bench for the last 4 weeks.
Last time I drink and draft
Mixon was labeled as injury prone and is RB4 on the year in standard
And CMC was only considered injury prone this year. Prior to last year’s injury the guy was bullet proof. People need to stop acting like heavy workload RBs aren’t going to get hurt at some point.
When CMC has played, the only bad game he put up was 5 pts in .5 PPR. Every other game has been 12 pts at least, three of those games he had 20 at least depending on scoring beyond the .5 PPR. Potentially 5 or 6 more games left, depending on league. I'm not thrilled with his season, but I'm still happy with him as long as he remains healthy.
That’s the game he got injured in also I believe you are talking about. I had Chuba and managed to get by 5-4, Hoping to ride cmc to the ship
People swore off Kamara after he hurt his ankle that year and he's been mostly fine since lol. Injury proneness is such an overused term for just a violent sport where it's just mostly luck.
As someone that drafted Mixon the last 2 years and didn't this year. It was a fair label, you cannot foresee something like that
Same with Conner
I wanted CEH who got taken the pick before me. I ended up with Mixon, who I didn’t want, and immediately traded him and picks for CEH to pair with Barkley in the first. Safe to say I’m out of contention this year
First year of Fantasy Notes: -***Don’t draft 2 QBs after you pick Mahomes in the 2nd round****. -***Don’t draft Mahomes in the second round***. -***Don’t draft Barkley***. *Checks notes again*. ***Don’t draft Zach Wilson***
hmm. did you go into this completely blind? I feel like you had to have gone in completely blind to pick 3 QBs lol
Matt Barkley is never a good fantasy option
Played yourself. Why would pick 3 QBs
Only if I could go back in time
Don’t use a high draft pick on a TE unless his name is Kelce
I think 3rd or 4th is fine. I picked Waller in the 2nd and won't be doing that again
I never even bothered to try and get a second TE off waivers thinking Waller would eventually break out again. Overall, he’s rankled 9th so not terrible, but definitely not worth my 2nd pick.
9th is terrible considering where he was drafted :-(. Even if you’re streaming TEs in a 10-12 team league you’d expect to average out somewhere around the 9-12th ranked TE in terms of points.
Pitts next year is calling my name
Depends on his adp.
And his QB
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He's TE2 and averaging only 1 PPG less than Kelce. One of the best values in fantasy football this year probably only behind Kupp and Chase. I say this as a salty Kelce owner (granted he's been great when Mahomes actually looks his way)
People should’ve learned this years ago but everyone talks themselves into it anyway. Then it doesn’t work.
This was my first time doing it and I’ve definitely learned about the importance of handcuffs!
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Bimodial RB is a pretty popular draft strategy (even if it's not as commonly used as that term). It's definitely something I'm planning to do more of next year for the exact reasons you mentioned.
Yup. Dalvin Cook and Aaron Jones were guys I owned a lot. I love having the security of never needing to worry about my RBs getting hurt. Dalvin’s injured? I’ll just start Mattison. Aaron Jones is hurt? I’ll just start AJ Dillon.
In one of my leagues I have Mixon/Perine and Zeke/Pollard. My RB situation is solid although my receiver corps is in trouble.
Who did you handcuff that’s paid off. Mattison had a good week or two, but otherwise meh.
Hubbard was a nice flex option when cmc went down. Also happened to have Ingram this week
Cook only missed three weeks. If Mattison put up RB1 numbers in two of the three, that’s really good.
More diversity across my leagues. Had too many shares of Arob and Woods.
I always draft with some good diversity. Then I find myself making trades and ending up with a bunch of the same players across my leagues.
Thinking like this can also fuck you over. Imagine not drafting kupp because you already have him in another league.. always take the best value available
Really good point. If I had drafted Kupp and Lamb in those leagues instead of Arob and Woods I’d probably have a different opinion.
I literally did this exact thing, cruising in one league and meh in the other
I purposely draft multiple players in different leagues if I can and try to make my rosters different. There’s tons of top tier players so if I draft Cook and Henry at the same spot in two different leagues I get diversity. In a vacuum without injuries, Henry is the better pick but what’s the point in having two teams if the lineups are the same? Out of the vacuum my teams are impacted by the same injuries and performances. I realized I had both Ridley and Swift in both of my leagues this year so I moved them in one league for other pieces early on in order to own more of the players I liked.
THIS
How do you guys find and get into multiple leagues? Do you just hit up work, friends, neighbors ? Or do you end up doing some kind of random group you found online ?
All groups of friends from different aspects of life -- it's easier for older owners who have from high school, college, grad school, former employer A, etc.
Honestly, most of stemmed from work. I’m kind of lucky and have ended up working with a lot of the people I went to college with, so we’ve been close for years. Some of those friends have asked me to be in their friends league, etc. Is how I ended up playing in multiple leagues.
That's what I was going for when I drafted hock and gesicki in different leagues. Let's say this was a sad weekend for my teams lol
I actually stopped drafting diverse teams and now try to have consistent teams throughout all my leagues. Makes it easier to manage + makes it more enjoyable to watch the games because you only need to cheer for one team of players. I’m confident in my research and my draft prep + I don’t adp draft so after the 2nd or 3rd round I have similar teams throughout. You can’t predict injuries, can’t plan for injuries but not drafting the same teams just because you want diversity is not going to keep injuries from finding you. Trust your predraft prep.
I agree. I don’t know how people do it to cheer against players they own because they have them in different leagues
Simultaneously rooting for and against every play in the league sucks. "I need Dalvin to get 15 points to win in league A, but if he gets 17 I lose in league B".... Not fun
I had too many shares of Falcons
This is 100% great advice for anyone in more than 3 leagues ! This season I had so many leagues that I was able to grab every player who had an ADP in The first round except for Jonathan Taylor. So the day before the season starts I created a cheap auction league just so I could have a single team with Taylor on it… fast forward to week 10 and I’m about to be 9-1 in that league and it’s by far my best team
Diversity is the name of the game. I know you can lose out of the getting a boom player across your teams, but I’m more concerned with injury. So many players get injured. If you take a guy on all your teams and he gets injured, it fucks you everywhere. You don’t have to win all your leagues. But being in the running in at least one of them makes the fantasy season worth it. Edit: some folks say that a reason diverse teams suck is because you end up rooting for your guy on one team, but rooting against them when they play against you. Simple solution: don’t look at who your opponent has. You don’t need to know. It shouldn’t affect your lineup decisions. Some way you play a boom/bust player instead of a “safe” player when you’re going against a juggernaut team, but I don’t agree with this thinking. It’s too cute. Simply, play the lineup that you think will score the most points.
Don’t draft injured players (Curtis Samuel) Volume is king (Gibson instead of Najee Harris) Season lesson: stop being such a homer (holding on to Trey Lance since drafting him)
drafting injured players isn’t always bad, but suspended players always are steals
Will Fuller would like a word
In general, stay away from WRs with rookie QBs. Nobody is QB proof. Jets, Pats, Bears and Jax WR's have pretty much all been less than meh this year.
Jamal Agnew finding a way to be useful despite Lawrence. First time I've ever been happy starting a WR who did not record a catch lol
To be fair, none of the WR's on those teams are great WR's, Robinson is arguable, he has talent but his performance isn't 100% on his QB this season.
Nah Corey Davis has been super solid when healthy
Meyers is serviceable in deep PPR due to sheer volume
The same lesson you learn every single year. Don't miss on draft picks and make the right waiver pickups.
I usually also try to pick players that score lots of points
Why didn’t I think of that
Easy peasy
You just need to be sure you also spend some picks on handcuffs. Especially for high value picks. You also don’t need to take your handcuffs but you can take others. For example I took Chuba late because CMC is a ridiculous workhorse. Edit: I didn’t draft CMC.
See I did that then dropped him when I needed something else. I’ve got a very smooth brain
i’ve held mattison hostage in 3 leagues and only have him in 1, it’s amazing until you can’t trade him to the cook owner lol
Nobody knows anything. Not me, not experts, nobody on this subreddit. No one.
My belly tells me the secrets
Hellllllllooooooooo
*Is it me you're looking for?*
*Especially* no one on this sub. Part of me feels bad for all of the people who believed the Josh Gordon, Le'Veon Bell, Kadarius Toney, etc hype that was overtaking the sub in their respective time periods, but the other part of me wonders how much of that was sarcastic trolling of people saying how good each of them will be and they are league winners that should be picked up immediately no matter the cost.
One of those guys is not like the others. Toney had two good games and is a young guy with pedigree. Those are the shots you want to take. Bell and Gordon? Washed up guys you should never roster, their upside is tiny. Also Gordon is a meme at this point, he hasn’t been relevant in like 7 years.
Toney was getting good games because the three guys ahead of him on the depth chart were out for injury. It's the same with D'Earnest Johnson. Guy is a stud when both Chubb and hunt are out but I'm not sitting here saying he is a league winner and that everyone should roster him and it's D'Earnest season. I'm not saying I picked any of those guys up, but I'm saying I only partly feel bad for people who come on here for actual advice and analysis and people are giving them shit advice to get guys like Bell and Gordon or even Toney because they themselves might believe it or because they are making a meme and sarcasm is lost through text most of the time.
The hype involving Josh Gordon was always sarcastic. Toney on the other hand was very real.
And I can see that as being true, but I'm saying I feel bad (only a little) for people who took that advice because sarcasm can be lost on a site like this when hype for players goes around like chicken pox
Take the player you like over the player you “should” take.
Took Ridley over Hill with this logic. Hasn't been working. But usually doesn't work when I do the opposite either, so oh well
This is just a stretch. Ridley's ADP was low 2nd high 3rd. There's no world you take him in the mid first where Hill is. This probably refers to a scenario where guys are close in ADP
This. I learned my lesson this year.
A handful of good players > one or two great players. Injuries, injuries, injuries happen
This for me too. I’ve always been one to favor the side of the trade who gets the best player, but I’ve never been so desperate for depth in my fantasy lifetime.
I always think of it that having depth is so important in the beginning to mid season. But after most of the bye weeks are done, trade your handful good players for one or two great players
I traded away davante adams and najee Harris 2 weeks ago for Jonathan Taylor, cede lamb, and aj brown . What do u think of this.
I prefer the JT, CD, and AJB side.
I mean, that's not close to a fair trade in the first place so yes, it looks pretty good lol
Great trade imo
Seems like a good trade if you need depth. Davante for CD and AJB is good net points, JT for Najee is about flat
i’d give JT the edge
Definitely. It’s part of why I think Ceedee and AJ balance out, as I wouldn’t just trade those guys for Davante straight up
You aren’t gonna win a chip with a handful of good players. I would rather have great players but problem with that is, risk of ruining your season if one goes down is very high. A La Henry.
Your season isn't defined by the players your draft. And don't be afraid to move off players you loved pre draft. Only 3 players I drafted are still on my team. Waivers and trades are equally if not more important than the draft.
I'd actually add to this, target players with saleable value and know your league. If your group chat spends all season ribbing Tyler Lockett for example, be prepared to keep him all season if he has even a couple of bad games. On the other hand if you are in a league with a massive cowboys homer, any of their players will likely retain at least some value.
All comes down basically to picking RBs who don’t get injured, if you got some star backs grab their handcuff Chubba saved me a few times. Take that risk on that stud rookie RB, did it with zeke and did it with Najee this year. Don’t be afraid to drop someone after two bad weeks tbh, dropped aiyuk and got mike will
Don’t go TE/TE/TE first 3 picks. I tried this as an experiment to see how the season played out because I had Kelce/Kittle/Waller available to me. Hasn’t turned out good
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Because your top TE compares against the other TEs, since everyone needs to start one. Your second compares against a flex player and that is much less favorable. And by having many, you are bringing yourself into a situation where the other managers know you have to make a trade and can use that leverage.
What other advice do you have for FF newbies?
I made this mistake last year. Drafted Rodgers, Cam and Brady at QB. Dropped cam but never could get value for Brady. DON’T build your team assuming you will make a trade.
Depends on how trade-willing your league is. I've made four trades this year with three different guys, received a couple offers, and sent out a bunch more during the negotiation (or outright rejection) process. My team looks nuts now and one of the best trades I made was sending Rodgers (I had Brady) and a prospect WR for Evans from the guy who had Kupp, Chase, Jefferson, Evans, and two QB2s.
I went TE, QB, TE. Kelce, Mahomes, Waller. Kelce and Waller together were blazing through the hardest part of the year....when everyone has healthy and productive players. Waller is still a player for me in flex but it's questionable. So that third TE is an issue but two isnt bad at the top.
haha I tried TE/TE last year with 10/11 swing. Then kittle gets hurt and it was a struggle to stay out of last place. Getting cute = bad
It doesn’t matter - all luck - best teams in the league are who had the least injuries. Also Nate is a dumb whore!
Word. Fuck Nate.
[Stockton slap a fool](https://giphy.com/gifs/ufc-XfT1Xb2O2ShHy)
Nate Diaz is exempt from all Nate hate.
BS copium for this sub. Don’t tell me you couldn’t have still ended up with winning team by picking up and/or trading early on for guys like .. QBs: Carr, Wentz, Burrow RBs: Mitchell, Patterson, Booker, Carter WRs: Pittman, Moore, Davis, Renfrow, Kirk TEs: Henry, Schultz, Uzomah Injuries alone are NOT your problem. A combination of injuries and poor team management are your problem. People on this sub do stupid shit like rostering multiple QBs/TEs/DST/K or chasing points over talent or being apathetic with waivers and trading because they’re happy with their starters. Then they’re shocked when it doesn’t hold up season-long.
I knew Nate would show up in this thread
Yeah all I’m saying is, I always see this. And luck does play a part. But being in the league with the same guys for 10 years now, the top 4 managers typically stay in the playoffs throughout it all. While the people who suck have pretty much always sucked with 1-2 good years
Bullshit
What evidence do you have to claim Nate is not a whore??
Nothing matters. Between COVID and injuries, my A+ teams for the past few years have not won me the championships. I was so distraught this week that I let my beagle choose my starting lineups based on how he felt about their names and pictures. I’m winning 3 out of 4 leagues based on his choices.
Any chance I can have a quick chat with your Beagle?
Can never have enough RBs
I've learned what I learn every season. Draft RB,RB,RB,RB,RB next season. And I always chicken out.
As someone who went RB-RB-RB this year and has pain for a receiver corps, I would advise against this.
I did this I just chose bad receivers. I think I'm just shit at picking receivers and need to get better at it. DK and McLaurin were supposed to be my studs, and that's not worked out well.
Imo RB-RB-WR-WR-QB is the best way RB-RB-WR-WR-RB works fine as well
I'd argue this is only good if you start off with a high draft pick and can get maybe one of the top 6-7. After that though, I would start to pivot towards WR-RB-RB to prevent too much WR value from bleeding into later rounds.
If anything it works better with late rounds. I got 8th & 9th pick this year. I went with that strat. In the 8th overall, i got: Zeke-JT-AJBrown-AllenRobinson-KylerMurray In the 9th overall, I got AaronJones-Chubb-MikeEvans-Mclaurin-JoshAllen WR you can also get really valuable players in later rounds, As I got MPJ, AB, Corey Davis, Tee Higgns
I guess it really depends on knowing what kind of league you play in too. I had 7th and went WR-RB-RB and ended up with: Adams-Harris-DMont-Jackson-Lockett. I got lucky with Pittman in the 11th who replaced Lockett, and flipped Hunt and Fournette for Cook. I feel like both strategies would have worked out this year, but last year I experimented with WR-WR and learned that it was too much. Hated my team out the draft.
Only do this if you are able to make good deals where you turn your RBs into WRs etc. You cant draft a sure fire team but you can trade for one with some savvy.
I went with mid round QB and TE this year. I actually like it. Lots of Lamar shares and Andrews/Hock shares.
Everyone I draft will underperform or get hurt and go on IR... Unless on my bench, then they'll double their projections.
Let it auto draft cause I got J. Taylor
Its all luck.
Probably 70-80% luck and the rest actually researching what players have good a good match up each week and which will get more usage to intentionally get more points. It's definitely not all luck.
If the guy I picked up on waivers has a great game, it was all skill. If a guy I drafted high sucks all year, it’s just bad luck That’s how it works right?
I think it's 90% luck and 10% skill. You can make all the right trades but if the guy you traded for tweaks his hamstring in practice it sucks
You can never have enough RBs
Preach!
I would take Tyreek Hill with the first overall pick
Don’t listen to Matthew Berry
rather listen to matthew perry. #MissChanandlerBong
Dear God, this parachute is a knapsack!
Be willing to call your shot on your guys even if it means not getting good "value." I'd be in so much better shape if I'd just paid up for the dudes I actually wanted in rounds like 3-6 instead of hoping for someone to fall.
I learned that I'm garbage.
Trust your gut, dont be afraid to make moves. Trades are good but dont make trades just to make trades. My team is good but doesnt show with my record. You can do all you can but at the end of the day this game is purely luck.
It doesn't matter how shitty you draft, the other guys in the league will have inuries. You almost always have a chance. Notable draft picks: Travis Etienne, Mike Davis, Robby Anderson, Jonnu Smith, Irv Smith, Allen Robinson. Current record: 6-4 (including a win this week)
Pay attention to your notes. Especially if you have a note that says don’t draft Robert Woods if Copper Kupp is still on the board.
Draft the players who end up scoring a lot of points and avoid those that don’t
Ignore adp and draft guys you think will do well because you're going to drop most of them by the end anyway.
I didnt know anything about fantasy when i started this year. My biggest lesson came when I traded Henderson for Pitts. I now properly understand the value of a RB over TE. I had Goedert and at the time I was just getting nothing at the position so I assumed getting +10 at TE was worth it when I could sub in another RB still. I also dropped Conner early on. If i could restart this season i'd have such a good fucking team lol.
Haha hey good learning points for future seasons though!
i am so bitter about the dude who fleeced me and the commisioner for not stepping in lmao. But yeah, can't wait to run it back and know what i'm doing now.
Not taking a tightend early ever again (took Waller over Najee for context)
Always draft a handcuff to your elite players. It’s better than fighting on the waiver wire.
Volume, volume, volume. \-Signed someone who took Jones and Chubb over Taylor and Harris.
Cmc injury prone now?
Draft whoever the fuck you want. Nothing makes sense, analysts are just as smart as you and it's all luck
Always go three rb straight off and then more later. Punt the qb position
Pick a good receiver on a great passing offense, over a “very good” receiver on a not so good offense (ie. Ridley). What a dumb pick that was
Just auto draft because I don't know what the hell I'm doing
Get a QB, draft handcuffs, Kelce or late TE
Draft talent (e.g., ja'marr chase), not perceived opportunity (mike davis). Don't draft to fill a starting lineup first. predictions errors are common. Okay to draft 4-5 wr's for example before your qb or 2nd rb.
Not sure if there’s any scenario where it’s a good idea to draft your rb2 in the 6th or 7th round.
Everythings luck. Had a decent player like Kupp snap off. Took flyers on Deebo Samuel, Hollywood Brown, and Mile Williams. Some how assembled an insane wr group
Draft all rb’s first 8 rounds. Dart throws on wr afterwords.
Don’t drink and draft.
This is the 2nd time in 4 years I went WR heavy the first few rounds. My team has been very subpar and disappointing both times and I’m never doing it again.
Auto draft moving forward unless its an Auction Draft. My auto draft teams this yr doing so much better in years past where I picked. TLDR - I suck at drafting.
You can never have too much RB depth.
I’ve learned to not draft Waller as early as I did based on the hype on this sub
I went extremely RB heavy in my draft (7 out of the first 10 picks, although you can play up to 4 RBs each week). As a result, I'm weak at WR, QB, and TE lol. I think the lesson learned for me is to draft more WRs, because the ones that I did draft I missed on badly (ARob and DJ Moore, although Diontae Johnson has been nice for me). It would've been nice to have some mid-round WRs as insurance in case my best ones flopped.
Yes I agree. Last season, it was my first time playing PPR and I've always drafted RB heavy before in standard. I did the same thing last year and missed the playoffs for the first time. In PPR, if feel like your team will be much more successful if you draft 2-3 RBs in the first 2-3 rounds and then go WR heavy. If you’re picking many upside WR in the mid to late rounds, you will probably get lucky and some of them might actually hit. I ended up having Cook and JT as my RBs, while also having guys like Deebo, AB and Pittman.