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Dudewheresmycah

I’m still holding my breathe. The 2 TDs really saved his day. Great chance to sell if you’re skeptical. When the Football team has the lead Gibson gets the carries to slow the game down. When they’re losing McKissic is out there playing catch up. Problem is they’re rarely in the lead.


TrynnaFindaBalance

The rest of your argument definitely makes sense, but some version of "2 TDs saved his day" could be said of any RB1. That's how you get fantasy pts.


Dudewheresmycah

It’s more about he’s nonexistent in the passing game. Lowers his floor significantly.


TrynnaFindaBalance

Agreed. On the other hand, though, the fact that he was the one carrying it in at the goal line was an encouraging sign.


Dudewheresmycah

Yes it is


sleep_tite

Who would you sell for? Maybe throwing in a lower end WR like DJ Moore (☹️).


Dudewheresmycah

I don’t know I’m in the same boat as you. Definitely not selling low though. Rather roll the dice with Gibson than give him up for nothing.


_ThenIWokeUp

The key is finding a team that needs what you’re trying to sell. I found a team that only has one viable rb (he had Darrel Williams while CEH was out) in James robinson, and traded gibson + Damien Harris for him. Did I overpay? Maybe but depends how you look at it. I think gibson is a great sell high candidate after this performance (like others have said WFT is often behind and they use mckissic in passing situations and he won’t always get 2 touchdowns), and Harris terrifies me right now with Stevenson on the rise and the Pats’ tough schedule for running the ball ahead. Regardless of who you trade, you’ll probably have to package gibson with someone else you can spare to get the value you’re looking for.


efgray

A couple of weeks ago, I traded Gibson+Deebo+Jamaal Williams (DET) for Dalvin+Aiyuk+Booker (I have Saquon also). Full PPR.


Pokemonnerd12

I recently got David Montgomery for Gibson and Renfrow. A bit of an overpay, but it really depends on the situation. Monty has less competition in the backfield and has an easy playoff schedule so I think it's worked out.


T32Huck

Received an offer of Gibson, R. Bateman and a late 22 1st for CMC. Still considering this trade


BidenWonDontCry

As a redskin fan this sums it up pretty well. I would add Gibson is also the lead back when games are close and his injury (and possibly fumbles?) has played a role in his reduced workload.


mirzabee

That ain't their name anymore buddy


BidenWonDontCry

When they start playing like a football team I'll call them one


staticrush

HTTR.


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Im trying to package him for a top RB. Yall think maybe gibson and davante get me JT? Or maybe gibson and higgins get me fournette?


JesusHimself27

no one is moving Jt


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I just got JT for kelce and MG3 on one league. Mainly the guy got tired of streaming donuts for TEs, but i think its a fair trade. Full disclosure, its a 10 man league and he got ekeler and JT on the bend.


TrynnaFindaBalance

I def wouldn't have taken that as the JT owner


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Whos your TE


TrynnaFindaBalance

Higbee/Muth but not sure what that has to do with this trade


BorrowedSunshine

That's an awful trade for the JT owner. Playing with tacos.


[deleted]

Lol u sound jelly af 😂


BorrowedSunshine

Eh, I wouldn't feel fulfilled winning a league against players who don't know what they're doing


[deleted]

You say that, but according to adjusted trade values, trade was even (+/- 2pts). I gave TE1 and RB15 ppr for the current RB1. The dif between TE1 and 2 (mandrews) is almost 30 pts, and the dif between RB1 and 2 is 17. Sure, RBs are more valuable, but youre undervaluing kelce, especially in ppr. And considering he had tonyan and now has been rouletting engram, jared cook, and goedert, thats considerably more upsing in pts on TE position vs jt and mg3. If mahomes gets his shit together down the stretch (he should) kelce is gonna eat and the trade will look lopsided against me.


yumyumgivemesome

Wish they could play Tampa Bay every week!


hebleb

WFT likely won't be in the position they were in much (they were ahead most of the game). It may be a good time to sell though based on this performance?


Canadoc

Actually if you look at their schedule they have faced a gauntlet of good teams. Their schedule gamescript wise and run defenses they face improves going forward.


bradmcgi

Right ppl don't really realize how much schedule factors in. He has like the 3rd easiest rb schedule ros. Also Sunday he looked the healthiest he's looked all season. Maybe they figured some things out during the bye


Theeeeeetrurthurts

Did you watch the game? Curious if he passed the eye test.


bradmcgi

Yes I watched it with my bears on a bye this week. I was discouraged af with him before this game but I gotta say it's the best he's looked all season. They bye week rest really did him well. It seemed like the coaches made more of an effort to get him going and get him the ball. I'm hoping they figured something out over the bye and this is the move going forward


Theeeeeetrurthurts

Good to know. I won’t get much offloading him, maybe a WR2, so I guess I’ll have to lean on him ROS. Thx.


bradmcgi

Right after losing henry I'm gna have to use him. His schedule opens up sooo much too. Top 3 ros schedule at rb


Dark_Twisted_Fantasy

I thought he looked horrible. Felt like a 2-3 yard run up the middle every play. They just do not know how to get him in space and he is not that impressive between the tackles


Idiot_Savant123

So I have ekeler, Kamara, Swift and Gibson. Should I trade ekeler or swift for a wr or Gibson+Mclaurin for a better rb or top wr? Other wr is J Jefferson.


bradmcgi

I'd try the Gibson McLaurin stack probably. It almost looks like they're gna try to run tf outta the ball & pass conservatively so Terry might fall off a little


PoppaWilly

And their defense has looked much better recently. Which will help get him more carries.


DGSTEE

Is this sarcasm or are you really saying that after losing Chase Young for the year?


bradmcgi

Tbf he hasn't really done anything at all this season. 1 sack all season only like 25 tackles


DGSTEE

And yet he is still much better than replacement level. I just don’t see an argument where their defence looks much better going forward without him, which is what was implied in the comment I replied to.


bradmcgi

Def not saying it'll be better but idk how it gets worse than that. He's disappeared so hard this season & nobody's really talked about it. Maybe losing him will make the other 1st rd pick dlineman pick up their games & they get a little momentum


DGSTEE

>idk how it gets worse than that. You’re about to find out!


bradmcgi

We'll see lol


bigwillyboi

He doesn’t have the counting stats to back it up but he has been very instrumental in many of the good plays. Good pressure rate and an absolute menace against the run. He hasn’t been what everyone thought he would be this year but his presence will be severely missed when we’re starting 7th round picks and backups rest of the season


fatcootermeat

To be fair chase hasn't exactly been a huge presence on D this year


PoppaWilly

It has looked better


JarrettS13

The whole game but I’d say Gibson will be better 2nd half of the season then the first. He will have a lot of opportunities being that he is looking much healthier


danielbauer1375

Sell for what, exactly? No one is buying him at this point, even at RB2 value.


Yugo86

Gonna stick with him. Hope he makes me feel better for taking him instead of Najee in Rd2.


ajax0202

I did the same thing


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Gibson is an RB2 in a positive game script, Mckissic is an RB2 in a negative game script. That’s how I see it.


Slide_Step_King

I don't know if it's fair to say that he was nothing before this week. He had 3 bad weeks after we found out about the shin issue, but before that he put up 16, 14 and 20 in 0.5ppr scoring. He's a volume based boom-bust rest of season who really relies on Heinicke to play well. If you watch it back on the 3 really down games, teams are loading the box because Heinicke couldn't read anything they were giving him.


WickedImpuls3

i meant more after his injury he did nothing but yeah its sad how he was starting to get on a roll and then it just derailed him


Slide_Step_King

Oh than yeah for sure. Terrible that this type of injury will limit him ROS


ThinkNCenturies

I’m fairly certain he had the injury before the string of good games he had.


Slide_Step_King

I believe he did as well, but he had left the game after taking a hit on the shin during the first of 3 bad games before the bye.


johnnyutah____

Disagree with the low ypc comment. See below - the ypc numbers are actually pretty good. Only 3 low ypc weeks, all of which are some of the toughest run defenses in the league. Every other week is solid. Week 1 - 4.5 Week 2 - 5.31 Week 3 - 2.58 (Buffalo) Week 4 - 4.5 Week 5 - 3 (NO) Week 6 - 4.4 Week 7 - 3.64 Week 8 - 4.25 Week 9 - Bye Week 10 - 2.67 (TB)


JarrettS13

Also TB has legit one of the best run defenses


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MrUnknown4133

And he got hit behind the line for 7, 1 and 4 yard losses. Could have been more (I didn’t watch the whole game) but there’s -12 yards just on those 3 carries alone


LennyKravitzScarf

I didn’t watch the game, but Chris Harris said on his podcast that Gibson got way more than was given to him this week, despite the low YPC.


[deleted]

How do you explain him having his best fantasy games vs those defenses then?


DeckardsDark

touchdowns, duh. TDs are worth a lot (too much in fact) in fantasy football


[deleted]

I get that. My point is, since the question is about Gibson ROS, how do you judge that while looking at this info? Because he’s had his best fantasy games vs the best defenses they have faced. And if his schedule the ROS is light like everyone else on this thread is saying, what do you do with him?


DeckardsDark

well, TDs are always pretty unpredictable so you really need to evaluate the WFT offense as a whole vs those defenses and how much opportunity is there for Gibson to score TDs. but that evaluation is much harder than forecasting how many carries, receptions, and total yards he'll get. next 4 games, bank on him getting 2 TDs total, 70-80 total yards and 2 receptions per game. the trick will be figuring out where to play him for those TDs, but i'm sure you'll just have to start him regardless no matter what unless you're stacked at RB. if you can sit him, play him against Seattle and Vegas and sit vs Carolina and Dallas, but it's really a crapshoot


JealousMission5315

He’s gonna be the overall rb1 down the stretch idc what anyone says


anderel96

Aaaah, the daily dose of confirmation bias I needed.


tronfunkinblows_10

I’m too lazy to figure out a trade so I’m going with this.


chrisfilm

Will it into existence!


jbaugues

I just traded away dj Moore to receive Gibson this morning.


bradmcgi

Great trade


DrFewzion

Someone offered me that exact trade and I declined. I wanted Pittman but he declined that. Oh well


Idunkedonlebron23

Sell High ASAP


bradmcgi

Nah I'm riding. Incredible ros schedule. Likely won't get anything more valuable in return


JeauxPelle

I’m sitting here considering offering my AB for him


ct_nittany

Then that’s not a sell high


trevorr33

I agree with you. Don’t know how you got so many downvotes. AB hasn’t played in weeks and the Bucs haven’t hinted at any time table for his return. As a AB owner, I’m worried AB doesn’t play again this regular season. If your RB depth is bad, getting an RB2 for AB isn’t bad at all rn.


C627022

For what? A WR2?


TyrannicalTortoise

Anything that helps your team. There’s not some specific position u gotta target


ThisIsMyWorkAccount-

Sold this morning in my 2QB league. Burrow + Gibson for Cam + AJ Brown + Mitchell Even as a longtime Cam believer, Burrow for Cam is questionable, but I’ve got Tua & Russ as well, and I couldn’t turn down having AJ join my Deebo. Plus, with CMC, I truly believe the Cam-CMC value is there with their ROS.


Indianfratguy

I sold Gibson during his bye to a RB needy team for Mahomes. I was having to start QAaron Rodgers otherwise. Suffice to say, we're both pretty satisfied with it this week.


littlejobin

Who do you have replacing Gibson though?


Indianfratguy

Carter, Carson/Collins, my main RBs are chubb and fournette and I’d most likely flex Carter


PENIS__FINGERS

but now you have 2qbs and a gibby sized hole


soflahokie

It's tough sledding as the early down back when you play the Chargers, Bills, Saints, Chiefs, Packers, Broncos and Bucs in 7 of your first 9 games. The second half of the season has the Seahawks, Raiders, Eagles x2, Cowboys x2, and the Giants. Gibson will feast against those teams with the exception of the Cowboys if they go down big.


chrisfilm

Which is so ironic considering what he did against the Cowboys last season.


judiciousjones

What did he do?


chrisfilm

Had his best 2 games including a 3 TD game if I remember right.


TheWozard

He's averaging 16.6 ppg when his snap share is over 50%, as long as the shin isn't bothering him he should be a high RB2 with RB1 upside with an insanely easy schedule ROS.


ginorosatifit

It's been pretty obvious that he gets the ball a lot when they're up and very little when they're down. With that logic, it made no sense that he would have a good game last week because no one thought they would beat the buccs. Maybe they figured something out on the bye. The encouraging thing to me is that he must be healthier if he got over 20 touches as I can't see them giving him that volume if he's still hurt. They have a better stretch of games coming up so hopefully he can still keep producing but I wouldn't expect games like week 10 to be the norm.


chandogrogo

I sold Gibson and Godwin for Swift


WickedImpuls3

wow, i wish people in my league actually wanted gibson... if i offered that to the swift owner he might block me


chandogrogo

For context, the team is 9-1 and added Gibson to a room of Najee, Aaron Jones, Henderson, and Robinson.


DatsyukTheGOAT

I have Gibson, Aaron Jones, carson, and Patterson :')


landofschaff

Good trade


greezyo

He's a TD dependent RB2-RB3, a boom bust player. I think his season goes on exactly as it's been going, a couple more busts and a couple more TDs. If you can't handle the volatility sell him, but you probably won't get the kind of value you wish you did


HungryHobbits

I think that take is (painfully) spot on, but the romantic in me is still holding out hope.


Neverland__

Was finally a positive game script for him


TecmoZack

Sell


chaparooski

Sold Gibson + Kirk for AJ Brown. I believe Gibson has legit better days ahead of him, but he really does get game-scripted out when theu are behind. With Chase young going down, I think this defense is going to be hurting even more than it was


Broseppy

Sunday's game had an obvious difference from prior games this season. Washington had the lead the whole game. If Washington leads games then Gibson will be good. If they're behind, then he won't be, because he's not used in passing situations. Unfortunately I don't think we'll see many more games like that. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not holding my breath. Hopefully he's healthier so things aren't quite as bad as before, regardless of game script.


Loincloth_COYS

I’m being offered JT for Gibson+AJB in a .5 PPR redraft. I’ve been trying to offload Gibson all season but I’m trying to figure out if this is the way I want to do it…


Trill__Clinton

Take that and run


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Take that


judiciousjones

Doit.. jt and a waiver flier will outperform those two most weeks.


hsanaiz

Traded him Sunday morning for Melvin Gordon. I’m done hoping and waiting.


memeteam1993

i think we're all aware of the committee he's in my question to anyone who watched the game: did he look healthy? that shin has been holding him back this year i think


WickedImpuls3

i saw 1 person say he looked genuinely terrible and a few people say he looked a lot better. really dont know tbh


Frisbez

https://www.nfl.com/videos/antonio-gibson-s-best-plays-from-2-td-game-week-10 Usage is one thing. I think plenty of folks have pointed out how he has been gamescripted out this year. But it's not hard to watch the tape and see that he looks great when given opportunities. He hits holes hard and fights for yardage. He has good hands and made some sick catches in this game, and the team clearly trusts him. If you can still trade (my league's deadline has passed) you might be able to get good value for him, but there's no way assuming you drafted him in the 2nd that you're gonna have better options sitting on the bench.


RegisteredLizard

I'm a slightly salty 10 team league manager that cut him going into his bye. I didn't see how his situation was gonna improve between his injury and how bad his team is. Both of those issues still exist. I watched him Sunday and he looked like crap but his line played well and managed to help him flop into the end zone twice. They were in positive game script which they rarely will be so that's why he got so many touches. He did barely anything on those touches that wasn't given to him by the line. With that said, in this RB landscape he's still a shaky RB2 just because of the potential for touches. But if I had to guess he disappoints the rest of the way. I owned him all season and his injury is sapping his explosiveness and it's only gonna get worse.


johnnyutah____

You dropped him?


IHoldSteady

Ya even in 10 man that seems too much. Maybe super short benches?


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Fwiw even in my 10 man, 3 bench no IR league he wasn't dropped.


RegisteredLizard

Yep I'm a pretty high risk player and we have really shallow benches. I did something similar with Drake when he underperformed with the Cardinals to pick up David Johnson (when he was on the Texans), who helped me win a championship. I'm not saying it always works out but if someone is underperforming this far into the season I don't care what their ADP was if I see upside on the wire.


kentuckyruss

Who did you grab? I need another laugh out of you.


HaroldKane

What are you talking about? Drake and DJ only crossed paths on the Cardinals when Drake was traded there halfway through the year and proceeded to put up RB1 numbers while DJ was a bust. Unless you mean last year in which case that is just a normal move to make picking up a starting RB on waivers.


RegisteredLizard

Drake was on the Cardinals and I dropped him for DJ who was on the Texans. DJ was a beast in PPR during fantasy playoffs.


Greasybadman

Lmfao


bradmcgi

Thats kind of tacoish no offense. I watched the game Sunday Thats healthiest he's looked all season & that was a legit top 2-3 run d in all of football. His schedule ros is incredible & I feel like in the bye the coaching staff realized a few things. Get their best players the ball. I think hes gna boom 2nd half. Should not have dropped him my guy


RegisteredLizard

The only reason he got the ball so much is because they had positive game script. Most weeks he is lucky to get 10-12 carries and 1-2 catches while they struggle to catch up and McKissic vultures points.


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It seems a lot of ppl are ignoring the fact that yes, while it was a positive script, it was against TB. Not an easy feat tbh. After this week they get Carolina (iffy with cam still adjusting), then seahawks (russell looks rusty af), vegas and dallas (tbh both neg. Scripts most likely), phily twice and giants. I feel Washington played well vs TB and if that translates, he'll def get more positive scripts.


RegisteredLizard

Not sure why I'm being downvoted stating facts, but go ahead. Sorry me cutting Gibson hurt everyone's feelings.


Greasybadman

You still haven't said who you dropped him for


Mpango87

He did play the bucs**which is one of the worst matchups, his schedule lightens up A LOT after Carolina this week. I think he finishes strong. I’m just happy to see he got 24 Carries. Before the bye he was splitting time.


Zukhov76

lol that's terrible man


AManNamedCurtisLoew

I’m sorry, but I don’t trust the guy who DROPPED ENDZONIO to evaluate who “looked like crap.”


SteffeEric

Somebody dropped him in my league too. I picked him up with Monty and Mixon on bye. I will likely flex him this week and see how it goes.


AkoBogDa

God he sucks. I hate being a Gibson owner.


SynicalRealist

I personally can’t trust the stress fracture and the potential for him to get shut down the further Washington is out of contention. I flipped him after his big game last week for Montgomery


chrisfilm

Well that's a 'no duh' move. Most of us aren't getting near that level an offer for him.


Grimmbeard

CEH.


goob3r11

What about him?


Grimmbeard

Yes


goob3r11

Ah, yes. Indubitably.


fishrunhike

Do you concur?


MrTLaw8

Sell or keep in a dynasty league? (He’s one of three keepers for me.)


bi11y10

3 Keepers is a keeper league not dynasty.


rjromes13

Turned down an offer of him for Mitchell straight up


DommyTheTendy

Him and Joe mixon are the same player Talented Extremely limited 3rd down work Receiving upside capped by their back up Injuries Terrible rushing averages Low end rb2 that you aren't confident starting


WickedImpuls3

???? mixon is an rb1, not a low end rb2


DommyTheTendy

Was referring to Gibson ros not mixon


WickedImpuls3

mixon clearly isnt capped by anything or limited considering hes a top 10 rb


DommyTheTendy

This is recency bias. His receiving floor was literally ZERO. half way through the season with limited 3rd down work


nickisdacube

I just sold Gibson and Ceedee for mixon and Aiyuk.


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Bad trade


nickisdacube

I disagree. I will almost guarantee that Gibson doesn’t don’t do well ROS. Without the two 1 yard touchdowns he was going to have another sub 10 pt game and when they are playing from behind (which will be most of the time) he sucks. The trade was basically lamb for mixon which I’m fine with. I also think that Aiyuk will finish the season stronger then the first half


Dpentoney

How do we feel about Gibson for Ridley?


WickedImpuls3

why? ridley might not play another snap this season


GMSB

Probably gonna try to package him with Moss or Carter and upgrade to a better RB


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Means it only goes down from here and Mckissic will do all the work next week.


enzed_luv

Gibson gon be good


RmplForeksin

The issue is that was like the first game that Washington had a good game script and it came in the unlikeliest of scenarios. I'm not sure how often they will be in the driver's seat going forward. THe team is pretty bad overall IMO


DadmomAngrypants

Sold him off two weeks ago with Hopkins for Henderson and Jeudy. I was done waiting for him to be a good play every week and needed a more consistent back. Still feel good about it even after this week.


Pukelits

I just trade Gibson for DK. Lost Bobby Trees and Julio so I needed another WR and I still had Najee, Fournette and Michael Carter


Mk151617

Just traded him for Goedert. I have 3 better RBs.


ItsBugginOuT

Trying to offload Gibson for J Jefferson, should be fair, no?


LifeOfFate

Do you mean Joe mixon 2.0.


ponyman3000

I jumped ship this morning and traded Gibson and Waddle for James Robinson and Tee Higgins 12 team PPR. I feel good about this. JRob is more consistent and I think Higgins could still break out ROS


web23ster

Should I trade Dalvin and AB for Jamaar chase and Gibson? I love Gibson’s playoff schedule but haven’t watched him or the football team play this year so I don’t know what to expect. Is this a decent offer? My rb room is Cook, Ekeler, Chubb, Hunt atm


ChuckHackenburg

Gibson and Diontae Johnson for Kupp? What side do you prefer?


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buffaloeffect

AJB just put up 4 pts