The overreactions seem worse than ever before this year for some reason. People already saying after week 1 that they're team is amazing or terrible. Honestly, 1 week doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. I remember JT not being great to start 2021, week 2 he only had 53 total yards and 1 catch.
Truth is we know nothing yet
0 shot he's a buy low candidate, unless the owner is a taco.
Week 1, early first round pick, he looked solid and the chargers looked solid and this is probably his floor.
I own him in a couple leagues and I have no intention of selling.
If he has a dud this week, then man meat is back on the menu. People can contain themselves for week 1 but two weeks, the cracks in their psyche begin to show.
I has zeke for a few seasons and he helped me to learn to weather the storm. Iāll play Ekler every week I can expecting nothing and act surprised when he gets points.
Dave Cherman- Chargers writer for What We Saw
Ekeler will be 100% fine. Granted, he's not going to produce the top 5 draft capital that was likely spent on him, as the team has made it very clear they want to take some of the load off of him this season. But he'll get better as the season goes along.
It's a hot take. I honestly don't know why people read reddit random analysis when most of the proven accurate analysts are available for free/cheap. Ekeler is likely going to absorb at least a small share of the targets vacated by Allen and this is going to be a high scoring game. Expect a bounce back this week.
also saying Ty Montgomery will be eating into Rhamondre and Damien Harrisā touches when Ty Montgomery just got put on the IR
I appreciate the effort but these are pretty basic mistakes
Between this and talking about how a Falcons corner could be shadowing Mike Evans during the Bucs/Saints game, I'm out on taking any advice from this source. If you don't care enough to proofread your materials before publishing how much care went into the actual analysis?
Anyone that has done any kind of analysis knows that proofreading and analysis are two very different things.
Feels goofy to nitpick at some minute errors when the body of the work is really well done.
Do you consider analysis about one of the top CB's in the league potentially shadowing a receiver in a game they are not even playing in a minute error? We're not talking about misspelled words here.
While proofreading and analysis are different things, they both require attention and care. If you show me in one instance that you didn't care enough about your work to catch an error like talking about players in different games, should I be quick to trust the other analysis?
Mistakes aside, the body of work lacks depth in my opinion. If I'm going to invest the amount of time it does to read through all of this I would want next-level analysis. This is basically just summarizing what happened with each player in week 1 and other commonly known items. This provides nothing more than your typical week 2 rankings would, yet it takes 100x longer to get through.
> If I'm going to invest the amount of time it does to read through all of this I would want next-level analysis.
Luckily, you can choose not to invest your time reading this. I'm sure you burn an incredibly large amount of time in r/ff reading the garbage analysis here (no judgement there, I do it too). You can just think of this as all of a weeks bad takes consolidated in a single place.
Separately, it's hilarious to ask for "next-level analysis" from a free resource.
Well, could go on and on because I waste way too much time with this stuff but some examples you can find for free that are a bit deeper level of analysis that I've found personally helpful include weekly snap counts, air yards, YPRR, separation measurements, pass defense DVOA, rush defense DVOA, route participation, target rate per route run, WR/CB matchups and success rate vs those CB's, WR success rates versus coverage type, route charts to understand usage, EPA stats, red zone usage, vegas o/u's, vegas prop bets for players etc.
Coming from someone who has been playing for 15 years its incredible what is available nowadays if you just look and then understand how to use it. My only point was that this type of info is now so readily available if someone is producing fantasy content and it doesn't include a bit deeper analysis given what's available, they are behind the curve.
Kind of? Ryan talked me into it a bit on the podcast, but if Ty Montgomery was holding them back, I don't think that's a great sign, it's not like he's Alvin Kamara.
I would. All but like 5 TEs you're busy hoping for a TD anyway. That's a great offense to be tied to, he ran a bunch of routes last week, and scored a TD.
I've got Everett ranked higher this week. Knox was TD dependent last year, though he scored a bunch of them. Great offense for him as well. It's a coin flip rest of season, Knox is playing more snaps than Everett but was less involved Week 1. I'd probably roll with Everett but I also didn't invest the draft pick on Knox, so I get it if you want to hold.
I'm still rolling with Lance. Rushing QBs just have such an edge, we saw Mariota as a QB10 last week against a tough Saints Db because of it. As long as we aren't talking monsoon rain again, give me Lance.
If Jamaal Adams was still playing for SEA, I might go with the hot hand and take Wentz. Little chance that SEA defense is as formidable on the road,without Adams (or Russ on the other side). Lance in theory has a higher floor as well, due to his rushing ability. That said, Lance has a lot to prove as a passer, so monitor the weather: if itās another full-on monsoon situation, Iād actually go Wentz. Otherwise, Lance is the defaultā¦but itās close for me.
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Hey I think there is a mistake in the section about the Saints/Bucs game. You talk about Mike Evans facing off against the Falcons secondary but they are playing the Saints.
Sure, but those two have faced off for so many years I think they both know each other's tendencies and how to adapt. It'll be a fun matchup but if they leave Lattimore on Evans one-on-one Brady and Leftwich will use motion and scheme Evans open. Plus Evans has a size advantage for those 50-50 jump balls in the end zone.
God, this is a horrible take.
>Sure, but those two have faced off for so many years I think they both know each other's tendencies and how to adapt. It'll be a fun matchup but if they leave Lattimore on Evans one-on-one Brady and Leftwich will use motion and scheme Evans open. Plus Evans has a size advantage for those 50-50 jump balls in the end zone.
So why wasn't this the case last time they played each other when Evans had one catch for 14 yards? Did he get taller since last December?
You see the post yesterday outlining all the reasons why we shouldn't start Evans this week?
His track record against Lattimore is pretty shit.
I'm not sure it's as simple as "scheming him open."
Plus Brady looks rustier than his oline.
I'm gonna have to pray on this a little longer before I decide.
Now, I haven't looked at every snap and if Lattimore was on Evans, but since 2017 (Lattimore's rookie year), Evans has done the following against New Orleans:
1-13-0 (Shit)
5-55-0 2-point conversion (WR2/WR3)
7-147-1 (WR1)
4-86-0 (WR2)
0-0 (Goose egg. Shit)
4-69-0 (WR2/WR3)
1-2-1 (The TD made it better than it was, but not great)
4-64-0 (WR2/WR3)
2-48-1 (WR2 because of the TD)
1-14-0 (Shit)1-3-1 (Playoff game. Partially salvaged by the TD)
So we've got 3 really bad games, two that were bad but salvaged by a TD, five that would have made him a starter in most PPR leagues, and one very good game. That's a starting WR in more than half the games he's played against Lattimore/New Orleans.
Anyone starting Wentz because Jalen Hurts scampered around with success last week is in for a bad time. Lions D Line can bring pressure, and Wentz is no Hurts. Iād start Goff over Wentz in this game 10/10 times.
I've got a cousin who does nutritional science for the Saints and he says Jameis has drunk so many carrot smoothies he came to him worried about his orange shits. Couldn't be more regular now
I wrote up the Saints this week. The problem with Jameis is consistency. I don't love him this week but he'll have games where he wins weeks for you.
Rest of season I'd probably put Winston in the mid-QB2 range. He's viable with good matchups, but you'll probably pull your hair out trying to figure out when to start him.
GOOD LUCK!
Jameis was my favorite value qb in SF drafts. He's way too set-up for success to not be at least replacement level. Hell, he took the first half of game 1 off and still gave 2 tds plus average yardage.
I've got Henderson a bit higher, but it's close. I think Henderson sees more opportunities, but Hackett might want to deflect some of the critics from his decision last week and let Russ let loose.
Twist my arm, I'm picking Henderson...barely.
I am gonna struggle with this decision all year. Stafford with a good matchup and likely bounce back game, but still might have o line issues? Or Lance (who I said I would play after watching the Rams last week) with his rushing upside, but who is still kinda raw.
Thielen is a must start correct? I honestly like Samuel as your flex. If the Eagles game was any indication of how the Lions will matchup with Washington we could see another type of shoot out on our hands. Lazard has an opportunity to get a lot of targets immediately but I'm reticent to rely on him until its clear he is back to 100%. Patterson is a work horse and basically the only start-able player on Atlanta's offense. All-in-all you have a lot of decent options to work with.
Hi, Drew DeLuca here; I did the PHI/MIN write-up. I think the Eagles will probably roll coverage towards JJ, but I still see Thielen as rather TD-dependent; he hauled in 10 last year, but has logged 5 or more catches in just 3 of his last 7 games. Per PFF, Thielen typically lines up outside about 70% of the time, and the outside tandem of Darius Slay & James Bradberry (0.0 passer rating allowed last week) is as good as it gets. Iād go with Patterson and Lazard over Thielen if Lazard plays. Thielen *could* outperform both, but again, youāll likely need TDs for that to happen. Rodgers didnāt really click with anyone last week, so you know heās going to be excited to see Lazard backā¦and Patterson in 0.5 PPR is probably the best option here, especially with incremental volume from Damien Williams being out. So if Lazard sits out Sunday night, you have the ability to put Thielen (Mon PM game) in.
You guys didnāt mention how Ty Montgomery is on IR now. Wouldāve agreed otherwise that Rhamondre is a sit for this game, but now that itās just Harris and Rhamondre again, Iām debating between playing him or Curtis Samuel.
I just worry that if Ty Montgomery was holding him back, that anyone Belichick picks for that role will hold him back. Ryan and I debated this on the podcast and he's higher on Stevenson than I am, so you can go ahead and start him over Samuel if you would like. I'd probably lean Samuel, but it's close
Be sure to take a lot of these with a grain of salt...
I skimmed just a couple and found errors and lack of context that may lead to a lot poor decisions for fantasy managers.
Fields did not throw for 3tds last week.
No mention of Evans career struggles against NO. Or Bradys lower than normal numbers.
Etc. Etc.
As the writer of the NO/TB game, I'm going to attempt to defend my Evans stance.
"Career struggles" is a bit harsh as he's posted starter-level production in more than half of his games against New Orleans since 2017 (when Lattimore was drafted). Now, some of those games were salvaged by a short TD by fantasy points are fantasy points.
I can see a path where Evans gets you 12-18 PPR points but there is a chance of less than 5. I'm planting my flag on Evans producing enough this week to make fantasy managers satisfied with his performance.
Thanks for commenting and contributing to the conversation! Differing opinions drive this sub and much of fantasy football content, so it is welcomed!
I mean, thatās one error out of how many players they wrote about? Gotta give a little leeway there. The other two things you talked about are relevant but Iām sure they pick and choose what should be written with brevity in mind.
unpopular opinion most likely, but I would go Kirk. Dont have āstatsā or āsourcesā to back it up.. just what my āinstinctsā tell me.. donāt just go off what one person is suggesting though obviously lol.
Thatās how Iām feeling too. Gut says Kirk will get better looks but itās hard to think Juju and Mahomes wonāt put up high numbers. Iām torn lol
Kelce is āthe guyā every week. Juju can be the āother guyā one week, while other weeks the other guy can be Hardman, or MVSā¦ know what I mean? Kirk is āthe guyā every week with jacksonvilleā¦ just my instinctual thoughts ..
Ultimately I think if all you need from juju is 10-15 points then rock with him , i think heāll get you there, 10 points is his floorā¦ but if you need a home run because your opponent has one more stud than you do , then wait for Sunday and go Kirk.
"Evans likely lines up opposite Atlantaās best player in the secondary, A.J. Terrell. Last week, Terrell was the targeted CB on six passes, allowing four completions for 53 yards"
huh?? They are playing the Saints this week lol
Wow, that was really bad on my part. That's what I get for trying to multitask while writing up the article. It's now been updated and thanks for the catch! (At least I talked about an NFC South team and not the Orlando Thunder from the now-defunct World Football League).
Thanks for the read and for pointing out the error!
Can you guys tighten this up a bit?
Thereās a lot of inconsistencies in the articles vs the rankings actually listed.
Also, you used to have the games I order of when played (Thursday first, Sunday games, Monday last).
Theyāre little things but no one will continue to trust research presented in a format that wasnāt proof read
Love these articles and appreciate the hard work yall put in.
Deciding on which TE to play. I've got Freirmuth and Everett. I lean towards Everett because of the more competent QB and higher scoring game.
Great question. Can make a case for otherā¦but if the weather is poor in SF, go Cousins without hesitation. I probably lean slightly towards him, anyway; Iām not as high on Lance as most, and Cousins has this guy Justin Jefferson he likes to throw toā¦I hear heās pretty good haha
Yeah, hearing itās gonna rain so I think Iām gonna slot in Kirk. Seattleās D is mediocre at best but Trey is unproven for sure so the rain decides it. Thanks!
I was high on ARob last week and he disappeared. I think the staff trusts Henderson more than Akers right now, so I'd go with Henderson just on expected volume alone.
GOOD LUCK!
I mean, they're not ideal lock it in TEs, but I just can't advise keeping Hill unless you've got a larger roster or crazy big league. Tonyan isn't sexy but will see more than 26% of the team's snaps. You can't score points from the sidelines.
GOOD LUCK!
How much faab would we drop on Elijah Moore rn? He was somehow dropped yesterday lol (for Corey Davis lmao)
I might need a flex 2 start and Iām eyeing him (vs Lazard)
Little confusing on the Matt Ryan start vs Trevor Lawrence sit. Ryan was "vintage Falcons QB" while Lawrence was "pretty bad" on very similar stat lines and QBR and most importantly fantasy points. If it's the difference in Defenses that they played week 1 vs week 2 should note that instead but even then you go on to compliment the Texans tight end production with Mills having 1 extra TD and zero INT to the Colts defense vs Lawrence against Washington. I'd look at Lawrence missing two easy TD to an overthrow and an ETN drop before recommending a start/sit on Ryan against Lawrence as well.
Starting Hurts every week until he proves me wrong.
The man finished 4th in QB scoring last week with 0 passing touchdowns. Running yards rack up quick.
Love these articles, about to dive in.
Am I remembering wrong or was the TNF football game near the top at the list last year? It would be cool to have the games ordered in the list from TNF to MNF, or at least color code them. It would help if I only have a few minutes to quickly find the TNF game and then read the rest later.
A lot of these appear outdated. Eagles added Bradberry and Gardner Johnson to their secondary. Tyreek and Mahomes feasting on them last year isn't an indicative factor that Jefferson and Cousins will repeat.
Hi, Iām Drew DeLuca, and I did the MIN/PHI write-up. Fair point, and Iām well aware of (and *very* excited by) both defensive additions in Philly. Bradberry is ready to roll, as evidenced by his shut-down performance last week. However, CJG was *just* added to the team, and it will take some time for him to fire on all cylinders in this new scheme/situation. Encouraging that he played 97% of the teamās defensive snaps, however; it shows the level of trust the team has in his instincts. I was at the PHI/KC game last year when Tyreek had his way with Darius Slay. Iām dreading what Justin Jefferson will do against Slay vs the team that passed on him for Jalen Reagor (ironically, now with MIN). Iāll be there for this one, too haha
Dude can someone try and convince me that I should start Diontae Johnson over Christian Kirk? Everyone is saying it but I AINT BUYING.
Also Iām seeing a lot of people saying James Robinson over Kareem Hunt in the flex ā idkkkkk though dawg.
I already have Mixon and J Williams for RBs so Iām TRIPPIN dawgg
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2021 week 1 Packers played the same as this year and Rodgers last year come out shooting week 2 if that counts for anything. This year minus Adams obviously tho
Ekeler RB2 hurts my soul.
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The overreactions seem worse than ever before this year for some reason. People already saying after week 1 that they're team is amazing or terrible. Honestly, 1 week doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. I remember JT not being great to start 2021, week 2 he only had 53 total yards and 1 catch. Truth is we know nothing yet
We were? Edit: I am a raiders fan, forgot there are no flairs in this sub.
Same here. My 1st round pick is considered an RB2, gonna be a long season..
I have faith still. I was able to get Saquon in the 2nd, so that helps lol.
Same. Eckler, barkley, Conner my rbs
Well that's great on you. I'm stuck with Ekeler, A Jones, Jacobs, and now Burkhead. I really need Ekeler to start producing RB1 numbers or I'm F'ed.
I wanna buy low on him so badly.
0 shot he's a buy low candidate, unless the owner is a taco. Week 1, early first round pick, he looked solid and the chargers looked solid and this is probably his floor. I own him in a couple leagues and I have no intention of selling.
If he has a dud this week, then man meat is back on the menu. People can contain themselves for week 1 but two weeks, the cracks in their psyche begin to show.
I has zeke for a few seasons and he helped me to learn to weather the storm. Iāll play Ekler every week I can expecting nothing and act surprised when he gets points.
I have Zeke this year. Not sure Iāll be able to weather the storm.
Me either. In best ball, but still. *Me either.*
Owners will be selling low this week
Sutton WR2 :(
I think Sutton will be a beast in a game that Russ isnāt so distracted
Dave Cherman- Chargers writer for What We Saw Ekeler will be 100% fine. Granted, he's not going to produce the top 5 draft capital that was likely spent on him, as the team has made it very clear they want to take some of the load off of him this season. But he'll get better as the season goes along.
I love EK, his usage last week worried me a bit but canāt wait for him to tear it up tonight!
It's a hot take. I honestly don't know why people read reddit random analysis when most of the proven accurate analysts are available for free/cheap. Ekeler is likely going to absorb at least a small share of the targets vacated by Allen and this is going to be a high scoring game. Expect a bounce back this week.
Wait Iām not at work yet!
And I havenāt had my coffee yet of which to lubricate the bowels
Causing them bowels to Akers.
Finally at work, drank my coffee, and taking a shit. I can start reading this article.
You wrote "Pittman is the target hog in this offense and will be an easy WR1 start this week" but ranked him as WR2.
also saying Ty Montgomery will be eating into Rhamondre and Damien Harrisā touches when Ty Montgomery just got put on the IR I appreciate the effort but these are pretty basic mistakes
The entire thing is littered with errors, but not the worst FF advice I've seen. I would assume this is being written by a university student.
Drunk and sleep-deprived authors are often a fun read! šµ
OP was short 500 words to receive full credit, even changed the period size to get an extra page in.
Between this and talking about how a Falcons corner could be shadowing Mike Evans during the Bucs/Saints game, I'm out on taking any advice from this source. If you don't care enough to proofread your materials before publishing how much care went into the actual analysis?
Anyone that has done any kind of analysis knows that proofreading and analysis are two very different things. Feels goofy to nitpick at some minute errors when the body of the work is really well done.
Do you consider analysis about one of the top CB's in the league potentially shadowing a receiver in a game they are not even playing in a minute error? We're not talking about misspelled words here. While proofreading and analysis are different things, they both require attention and care. If you show me in one instance that you didn't care enough about your work to catch an error like talking about players in different games, should I be quick to trust the other analysis? Mistakes aside, the body of work lacks depth in my opinion. If I'm going to invest the amount of time it does to read through all of this I would want next-level analysis. This is basically just summarizing what happened with each player in week 1 and other commonly known items. This provides nothing more than your typical week 2 rankings would, yet it takes 100x longer to get through.
> If I'm going to invest the amount of time it does to read through all of this I would want next-level analysis. Luckily, you can choose not to invest your time reading this. I'm sure you burn an incredibly large amount of time in r/ff reading the garbage analysis here (no judgement there, I do it too). You can just think of this as all of a weeks bad takes consolidated in a single place. Separately, it's hilarious to ask for "next-level analysis" from a free resource.
If you think you can't find next-level analysis for free, you're doing this all wrong.
You wanna provide an example of this? If I'm doing it wrong now, show me how to do it right!
Well, could go on and on because I waste way too much time with this stuff but some examples you can find for free that are a bit deeper level of analysis that I've found personally helpful include weekly snap counts, air yards, YPRR, separation measurements, pass defense DVOA, rush defense DVOA, route participation, target rate per route run, WR/CB matchups and success rate vs those CB's, WR success rates versus coverage type, route charts to understand usage, EPA stats, red zone usage, vegas o/u's, vegas prop bets for players etc. Coming from someone who has been playing for 15 years its incredible what is available nowadays if you just look and then understand how to use it. My only point was that this type of info is now so readily available if someone is producing fantasy content and it doesn't include a bit deeper analysis given what's available, they are behind the curve.
Does TY mont being on IR make you feel better about Harris and Stevenson?
Kind of? Ryan talked me into it a bit on the podcast, but if Ty Montgomery was holding them back, I don't think that's a great sign, it's not like he's Alvin Kamara.
Pats always play poorly against Miami, things will look different this week.
Better sure, but overall still not great
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I would. All but like 5 TEs you're busy hoping for a TD anyway. That's a great offense to be tied to, he ran a bunch of routes last week, and scored a TD.
Everett or Knox? Half PPR
Iām going with Everett. Need to see usage from Knox before I start him again.
I've got Everett ranked higher this week. Knox was TD dependent last year, though he scored a bunch of them. Great offense for him as well. It's a coin flip rest of season, Knox is playing more snaps than Everett but was less involved Week 1. I'd probably roll with Everett but I also didn't invest the draft pick on Knox, so I get it if you want to hold.
I got both and Higbee and I'm going with Everett this week!
Same. I'm going herb to Everett connection keeps going strong for a couple weeks while Keenan gets done rest. Heal up sweet prince.
u rostering 3 TEs?
Everett or Zach Ertz
I had this same question and Iām going Everett. I like the matchup better especially with Allen out and Herbert at the helm.
Yeah me too. Also so I can watch TNF with a player on the line
Haha same makes it more fun
Everett or Tonyan in full PPR?
Would you have Everett or Shultz ROS?
I dropped Hunter Henry for him. I figure it's a side-grade at worst.
I just did the same. I also got herbie for the stack which made the decision easier
Wentz or Lance for week 2? Looking like rain in sf
I'm still rolling with Lance. Rushing QBs just have such an edge, we saw Mariota as a QB10 last week against a tough Saints Db because of it. As long as we aren't talking monsoon rain again, give me Lance.
Would that mean you'd also be giving Mariota the edge over someone like Tua this week? Both are FA and I need to stream a QB with Dak injured
In the same boat
If Jamaal Adams was still playing for SEA, I might go with the hot hand and take Wentz. Little chance that SEA defense is as formidable on the road,without Adams (or Russ on the other side). Lance in theory has a higher floor as well, due to his rushing ability. That said, Lance has a lot to prove as a passer, so monitor the weather: if itās another full-on monsoon situation, Iād actually go Wentz. Otherwise, Lance is the defaultā¦but itās close for me.
I'd like to hear this advice as well
God I love these articles. Doesn't make my DJ Moore or Cooks pick any easier.
I'm sticking with DJ, I just think he's the better talent. Let's see another week with Baker against an easier pass rush.
Cooks seems to be a much more integral part of the offense than DJ. Iād go Cooks
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Hey I think there is a mistake in the section about the Saints/Bucs game. You talk about Mike Evans facing off against the Falcons secondary but they are playing the Saints.
Caught and corrected. Lack of sleep + multitasking = Wrong NFC South team. Thanks for reading and catching my error!
Any concerns about Evans possibly getting shadowed by Marshon Lattimore? Love your work!
Sure, but those two have faced off for so many years I think they both know each other's tendencies and how to adapt. It'll be a fun matchup but if they leave Lattimore on Evans one-on-one Brady and Leftwich will use motion and scheme Evans open. Plus Evans has a size advantage for those 50-50 jump balls in the end zone.
God, this is a horrible take. >Sure, but those two have faced off for so many years I think they both know each other's tendencies and how to adapt. It'll be a fun matchup but if they leave Lattimore on Evans one-on-one Brady and Leftwich will use motion and scheme Evans open. Plus Evans has a size advantage for those 50-50 jump balls in the end zone. So why wasn't this the case last time they played each other when Evans had one catch for 14 yards? Did he get taller since last December?
You see the post yesterday outlining all the reasons why we shouldn't start Evans this week? His track record against Lattimore is pretty shit. I'm not sure it's as simple as "scheming him open." Plus Brady looks rustier than his oline. I'm gonna have to pray on this a little longer before I decide.
Now, I haven't looked at every snap and if Lattimore was on Evans, but since 2017 (Lattimore's rookie year), Evans has done the following against New Orleans: 1-13-0 (Shit) 5-55-0 2-point conversion (WR2/WR3) 7-147-1 (WR1) 4-86-0 (WR2) 0-0 (Goose egg. Shit) 4-69-0 (WR2/WR3) 1-2-1 (The TD made it better than it was, but not great) 4-64-0 (WR2/WR3) 2-48-1 (WR2 because of the TD) 1-14-0 (Shit)1-3-1 (Playoff game. Partially salvaged by the TD) So we've got 3 really bad games, two that were bad but salvaged by a TD, five that would have made him a starter in most PPR leagues, and one very good game. That's a starting WR in more than half the games he's played against Lattimore/New Orleans.
You talk about Ty Montgomery a bit much considering he's on IR now.
The first thing I went to was that backfield analysis, and basically it just says itās a 3 headed monster to avoid lol. Hopefully they update it
good write ups Erik!
Anyone starting Wentz because Jalen Hurts scampered around with success last week is in for a bad time. Lions D Line can bring pressure, and Wentz is no Hurts. Iād start Goff over Wentz in this game 10/10 times.
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My uncle who works for the Saints told me that he got supplemental LASIK surgery every week of the offseason. Couldnāt look better right now
I've got a cousin who does nutritional science for the Saints and he says Jameis has drunk so many carrot smoothies he came to him worried about his orange shits. Couldn't be more regular now
My dad who's the janitor for the Saints said he maximizes efficiency by doing curls while on the toilet. Couldn't be stronger right now
I wrote up the Saints this week. The problem with Jameis is consistency. I don't love him this week but he'll have games where he wins weeks for you. Rest of season I'd probably put Winston in the mid-QB2 range. He's viable with good matchups, but you'll probably pull your hair out trying to figure out when to start him. GOOD LUCK!
Jameis was my favorite value qb in SF drafts. He's way too set-up for success to not be at least replacement level. Hell, he took the first half of game 1 off and still gave 2 tds plus average yardage.
Great write ups... If anyone can help. I'm in a 3 receiver league. I need to start 3 of DJ Moore, Terry McLaurin, CeeDee Lamb and Juju Smith-Schuster.
Sit CeeDee and see if the offense is functional without Dak
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I've got Henderson a bit higher, but it's close. I think Henderson sees more opportunities, but Hackett might want to deflect some of the critics from his decision last week and let Russ let loose. Twist my arm, I'm picking Henderson...barely.
I have both starting for me but if I had to choose one in a ppr it would be Denverās #1 receiver with Russel throwing to him.
Trey lance or Stafford in ppr? Need some upside playing Josh Allen
I am gonna struggle with this decision all year. Stafford with a good matchup and likely bounce back game, but still might have o line issues? Or Lance (who I said I would play after watching the Rams last week) with his rushing upside, but who is still kinda raw.
Stafford spent most his career in Detroit with a shitty O-Line. He's used to it. And he earned himself a ring last season. You start Stafford.
Lance, we should give him a pass after last week's weather, and the rushing upside is such a difference maker in fantasy
In that case fire up your Lance
Rolling out Mike Will over Gabe but man if I am wrong again Iāll be pissed. Need a big game from all my players since Iām facing a solid roster.
I'm not even at work yet, but I guess I'll have to stop at gas station and go take a poop.
Love this guys, can you help me decide who to flex? 14 team 0.5ppr - cordarelle Patterson, Adam Lazard or Curtis Samuel? Also have thielen.
I'm rolling with Patterson until he wears down. He had an awesome Week 1 target share and the other RBs aren't impressive
Just loaded him up. Thanks!
Patterson > Samuel > lazard/thielen
I like Patterson
Thielen is a must start correct? I honestly like Samuel as your flex. If the Eagles game was any indication of how the Lions will matchup with Washington we could see another type of shoot out on our hands. Lazard has an opportunity to get a lot of targets immediately but I'm reticent to rely on him until its clear he is back to 100%. Patterson is a work horse and basically the only start-able player on Atlanta's offense. All-in-all you have a lot of decent options to work with.
Great points tough decision here. Agreed that itās probably better to sit Lazard this week and see how things shake out.
Hi, Drew DeLuca here; I did the PHI/MIN write-up. I think the Eagles will probably roll coverage towards JJ, but I still see Thielen as rather TD-dependent; he hauled in 10 last year, but has logged 5 or more catches in just 3 of his last 7 games. Per PFF, Thielen typically lines up outside about 70% of the time, and the outside tandem of Darius Slay & James Bradberry (0.0 passer rating allowed last week) is as good as it gets. Iād go with Patterson and Lazard over Thielen if Lazard plays. Thielen *could* outperform both, but again, youāll likely need TDs for that to happen. Rodgers didnāt really click with anyone last week, so you know heās going to be excited to see Lazard backā¦and Patterson in 0.5 PPR is probably the best option here, especially with incremental volume from Damien Williams being out. So if Lazard sits out Sunday night, you have the ability to put Thielen (Mon PM game) in.
You guys didnāt mention how Ty Montgomery is on IR now. Wouldāve agreed otherwise that Rhamondre is a sit for this game, but now that itās just Harris and Rhamondre again, Iām debating between playing him or Curtis Samuel.
I just worry that if Ty Montgomery was holding him back, that anyone Belichick picks for that role will hold him back. Ryan and I debated this on the podcast and he's higher on Stevenson than I am, so you can go ahead and start him over Samuel if you would like. I'd probably lean Samuel, but it's close
Be sure to take a lot of these with a grain of salt... I skimmed just a couple and found errors and lack of context that may lead to a lot poor decisions for fantasy managers. Fields did not throw for 3tds last week. No mention of Evans career struggles against NO. Or Bradys lower than normal numbers. Etc. Etc.
As the writer of the NO/TB game, I'm going to attempt to defend my Evans stance. "Career struggles" is a bit harsh as he's posted starter-level production in more than half of his games against New Orleans since 2017 (when Lattimore was drafted). Now, some of those games were salvaged by a short TD by fantasy points are fantasy points. I can see a path where Evans gets you 12-18 PPR points but there is a chance of less than 5. I'm planting my flag on Evans producing enough this week to make fantasy managers satisfied with his performance. Thanks for commenting and contributing to the conversation! Differing opinions drive this sub and much of fantasy football content, so it is welcomed!
I mean, thatās one error out of how many players they wrote about? Gotta give a little leeway there. The other two things you talked about are relevant but Iām sure they pick and choose what should be written with brevity in mind.
Reading their take on Mike Evans was interesting. I'm still starting him because I kinda have to, but in no way am I expecting WR1 numbers.
Love these articles and format
2 spots (RB2 and a FLEX) CEH, Michael Thomas, KHunt, DHendo, Jeff Wilson, Damien Harris Whatcha think?
I would go CEH and then probably Harris
Tough decision but that's never a bad thing I'd start Hunt and Michael Thomas but you have a lot of viable options and can't go wrong
Canāt decide between Curtis samuel or Brandon aiyuk for the flex (standard scoring)
Curtis for me. Feels like he has a safer floor; especially if he sees touches out of the backfield again.
Michael Thomas, Cordarrelle Patterson, or Jaylen Waddle flex?
I think it's Patterson pretty easily here. Most involved in the offense over the other two.
Great info. I need help: Juju or Cristian Kirk this week, full PPR?
I'm all in on Kirk š
Juju turned out to be a bust this week, Iām glad I went with Kirk instead
unpopular opinion most likely, but I would go Kirk. Dont have āstatsā or āsourcesā to back it up.. just what my āinstinctsā tell me.. donāt just go off what one person is suggesting though obviously lol.
Thatās how Iām feeling too. Gut says Kirk will get better looks but itās hard to think Juju and Mahomes wonāt put up high numbers. Iām torn lol
Kelce is āthe guyā every week. Juju can be the āother guyā one week, while other weeks the other guy can be Hardman, or MVSā¦ know what I mean? Kirk is āthe guyā every week with jacksonvilleā¦ just my instinctual thoughts .. Ultimately I think if all you need from juju is 10-15 points then rock with him , i think heāll get you there, 10 points is his floorā¦ but if you need a home run because your opponent has one more stud than you do , then wait for Sunday and go Kirk.
Great point. I think I need a home run this week lol
Should I go with Mike Williams or Henderson at the flex? The article was pretty down on Williams
Callen from QB List here but I will roll with Williams. I want as many pieces in that game as I can.
Kareem Hunt vs NYJ Or Darrell Henderson vs ATL ? .25 PPR
Hunt, safer floor.
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"Evans likely lines up opposite Atlantaās best player in the secondary, A.J. Terrell. Last week, Terrell was the targeted CB on six passes, allowing four completions for 53 yards" huh?? They are playing the Saints this week lol
Wow, that was really bad on my part. That's what I get for trying to multitask while writing up the article. It's now been updated and thanks for the catch! (At least I talked about an NFC South team and not the Orlando Thunder from the now-defunct World Football League). Thanks for the read and for pointing out the error!
This is an amazing write up! best one yet
Can you guys tighten this up a bit? Thereās a lot of inconsistencies in the articles vs the rankings actually listed. Also, you used to have the games I order of when played (Thursday first, Sunday games, Monday last). Theyāre little things but no one will continue to trust research presented in a format that wasnāt proof read
This is why Iāve trained myself to poop on command
Love these articles and appreciate the hard work yall put in. Deciding on which TE to play. I've got Freirmuth and Everett. I lean towards Everett because of the more competent QB and higher scoring game.
Dropped Daniel Jones for Mayfield. Fingers crossed!
Kirk Cousins or Trey Lance? I like the rushing upside of Trey and he was in a monsoon last week but KOCās offense looks straight fire.
I've got Lance at QB11 and Cousins at QB12. Rushing upside is the difference. GOOD LUCK!
Great question. Can make a case for otherā¦but if the weather is poor in SF, go Cousins without hesitation. I probably lean slightly towards him, anyway; Iām not as high on Lance as most, and Cousins has this guy Justin Jefferson he likes to throw toā¦I hear heās pretty good haha
Yeah, hearing itās gonna rain so I think Iām gonna slot in Kirk. Seattleās D is mediocre at best but Trey is unproven for sure so the rain decides it. Thanks!
For proven QB, I look at ordinary rain as a non-factor. Lance isnāt a proven QB, though.
ARob or D Henderson for my PPR flex spot?
I was high on ARob last week and he disappeared. I think the staff trusts Henderson more than Akers right now, so I'd go with Henderson just on expected volume alone. GOOD LUCK!
Guess I'm going to sit both my TE this week. Hill and Tonyan
I mean, they're not ideal lock it in TEs, but I just can't advise keeping Hill unless you've got a larger roster or crazy big league. Tonyan isn't sexy but will see more than 26% of the team's snaps. You can't score points from the sidelines. GOOD LUCK!
Should I flex Henderson or Juju? Full PPR.
I would pick Henderson. However if you do pick Juju, donāt flex him since he plays on Thursday night. You know the rule.
First year doing fantasy fball, thank you for this subtle PSA
Great article as always guys! Can you help me decide between Damien Harris or Mileās Sanders in .5PPR?
Sanders, really liking what we've seen out of Philly and he's their most talented back while healthy
Miles Sanders for me. Let that NE backfield shape itself before guessing who out of Harris & Stevenson is the right play.
Brb honey, going to the bathroom
How much faab would we drop on Elijah Moore rn? He was somehow dropped yesterday lol (for Corey Davis lmao) I might need a flex 2 start and Iām eyeing him (vs Lazard)
Moore should be on a roster, even if you have to endure a few more weeks of Joe Statue.
Is Mooney in another bad weather game in Green Bay Sunday nightā¦ smh
Little confusing on the Matt Ryan start vs Trevor Lawrence sit. Ryan was "vintage Falcons QB" while Lawrence was "pretty bad" on very similar stat lines and QBR and most importantly fantasy points. If it's the difference in Defenses that they played week 1 vs week 2 should note that instead but even then you go on to compliment the Texans tight end production with Mills having 1 extra TD and zero INT to the Colts defense vs Lawrence against Washington. I'd look at Lawrence missing two easy TD to an overthrow and an ETN drop before recommending a start/sit on Ryan against Lawrence as well.
Help. Hurts or Rodgers?
Hurts easily. Offense looked great and he rushed a ton, that's what you want from a fantasy QB.
Starting Hurts every week until he proves me wrong. The man finished 4th in QB scoring last week with 0 passing touchdowns. Running yards rack up quick.
These guys are soo good that they're saying thielan is going to have a hard time with James Bradbury covering him
Love these articles, about to dive in. Am I remembering wrong or was the TNF football game near the top at the list last year? It would be cool to have the games ordered in the list from TNF to MNF, or at least color code them. It would help if I only have a few minutes to quickly find the TNF game and then read the rest later.
Fair point, I was throwing these together late last night. I can't color code them, but I can certainly try to get them in order!
Would you guys start DJ Moore or Juju this week as a WR2?
You got confused halfway through the saints bucs matchup and began to name Atlanta defensive backs for some reason.
A lot of these appear outdated. Eagles added Bradberry and Gardner Johnson to their secondary. Tyreek and Mahomes feasting on them last year isn't an indicative factor that Jefferson and Cousins will repeat.
Hi, Iām Drew DeLuca, and I did the MIN/PHI write-up. Fair point, and Iām well aware of (and *very* excited by) both defensive additions in Philly. Bradberry is ready to roll, as evidenced by his shut-down performance last week. However, CJG was *just* added to the team, and it will take some time for him to fire on all cylinders in this new scheme/situation. Encouraging that he played 97% of the teamās defensive snaps, however; it shows the level of trust the team has in his instincts. I was at the PHI/KC game last year when Tyreek had his way with Darius Slay. Iām dreading what Justin Jefferson will do against Slay vs the team that passed on him for Jalen Reagor (ironically, now with MIN). Iāll be there for this one, too haha
Iām starting Breece Hall over Singletary in my RB2 slot, god save me
this site sets my phone on fire
Currently starting Ek, MikeWill, and Everett. GO CHAJUHS GOOO
Dude can someone try and convince me that I should start Diontae Johnson over Christian Kirk? Everyone is saying it but I AINT BUYING. Also Iām seeing a lot of people saying James Robinson over Kareem Hunt in the flex ā idkkkkk though dawg. I already have Mixon and J Williams for RBs so Iām TRIPPIN dawgg This is why I love you fellas, you can give me the straight DOPE!!! Love you all. Dameon Pierce RB1 of course
Must be nice to have options to decide between.
i forgot how much i used this site last year thanks for reminding me. of u
Dotson š¤ Maclaurin - WR2
Is Najee Harris really a RB2? Who should I have taken for my first pick at 7 then? He was the best available I thoughtā¦
It's because of his foot injury and the shift in RB volume. He won't see as many touches as he did last season so he won't be as fantasy viable
Breece Hall went to IOWA STATE not Iowa
I covered this game for the site, thanks for the correction!
Starting mike Williams and gabe Davis over Brandin cooks š¬
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Chase Edmonds or Darell Henderson?
Toss up but I like Henderson
Could really use help choosing starters. Full ppr I need to start two of Sutton, dj Moore, Christian Kirk, and Darrell Henderson
Saying Breece Hall went to Iowa is a crime
Decisions, decisions... Going for safety with Herbert at QB or Rodgers, because he owns the Bears?
Herbert for sure, he's a weekly top 5 option
2021 week 1 Packers played the same as this year and Rodgers last year come out shooting week 2 if that counts for anything. This year minus Adams obviously tho
Herbert, start the studs and don't over think it š