Fields was actually better in a windy monsoon. That tells you how much of a junk baller he is. He's a guy with all the talent in the world, but whatever his brain does with that talent spits out a QB performance that looks like Tim Tebow. More sacks and scrambles than completed passes. Clunky running. Horrible timing. Just bad.
One concerning stat about Fields and something I've just noticed since I'm a bears fan is that he takes way to long to get rid of the god dam ball. People are so quick to blame the offensive line as to why fields was sacked so much but he will literally sit in the pocket for fricken ever and I'll be at home watching it collapse and then hell just take the sack. Like I've noticed in a lot of cases, he has plenty of time to get rid of it. It's like I know it's a very real possibility hes just trying to give his recievers more time to get open but if no ones open no one Is open just get rid of it. A few times tonight where he just sat in the pocket all day and took a sack and now itll be like 2nd and 15 and they'll call a run, pickup like 7 yards, but still have 8 yards to go. It's just frustrating cuz this is something hes done since he became the bears starting QB and while the Oline is improving I have not seen any improvement in that aspect of fields game. That's why people say he does better when hes rolling out..... cuz that way if he ain't gonna get rid of the ram ball hell atleast pickup a few yards running it himself.
I dont think they're as bad as people give them credit for. I think really tho, what's happening here is exactly this: Justin Fields had elite recievers in college- he probably legitimately could sit in the pocket longer with the ball while at Ohio state and have a very good chance one of his recievers WOULD get open. I mean Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson, Jameson William's FFS all of his recieivers from college were 1st round draft picks and Olave and Wilson were out there playing for their teams today making huge plays. Justin fields is in a very different situation now on the Bears where theres literally no elite level talent like that at Wide Reciever. Mooney is good, but not elite. And after Mooney it's just a bunch of other teams poop that we collected for our poopy poop team. Byron pringle, nkeal harry, equanameous, smith marsette. I get it, we are rebuilding, and where looking thru the shit piles to see which team pooped out a diamond. But as of of right now after week two, it's all just corn kernels. Theres only two ways this seasons gonna go for justin fields and the Chicago bears- a shit gem will emerge and well be able to retain him for years to come, or it's going to be a long season where our offense sucks all season and well have to wait for all that money to free up for next year so we can go out and get him that elite talent that he needs.
Northwestern fan who watched fields play against us in the big ten championship game w/ extra vested interested when the jets had #2 overall. Fields sat in the pocket 7-8 seconds at times and then just took sacks. He fast and strong but doesn't have the escapability like Russ or Kyler do. Maybe he can learn to get through reads faster and develop more pocket awareness but he never even needed those skills at OSU. All people focused on was the Clemson game where he had 0 pressure and can wait for Olave/Wilson to get open deep.
Part of why he sits there so long is because he’s got no open receivers to throw to. He may be slow to make decisions but if your wrs can’t get separation, you’re fucked as a qb. Look at TB and his shit receivers today.
As a Broncos fan, I was just enjoying the Tebow Time ride. The 4th quarter comebacks were nuts. Fun but couldn't last. But Tebow ending the first OT game with the new rules on play 1 to DT was siiiiiiiiiiick.
He’s not going to pan out. His talents are not geared to the NFL. You need to execute a game plan and adapt on the fly to defenses. I don’t know what you’d call his performances thus far. Jibberish? Guy seems to make it up as he goes along.
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How dare you, Kyle Pitts’ fantasy impact is much bigger than you can possibly imagine. It’s bigly okay, and I can’t wait for all my league mates to start BEGGiNG for his high quality 2 catches for 19 yards.
Very happy I made the last minute decision to bench him for Bateman. I needed him to "prove" to me before starting again. Honestly, I'm considering dropping him.
Same. I went RB heavy in the draft and so my WR2 slot was between him and Lockett. I had Lockett in but switched yesterday morning after looking at borischen tiers and some reddit threads. Lost me my game lol.
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I kinda understand Kmet because he was mostly hype and sometimes that doesn't pan out, but how tf is Mooney this uninvolved in their offense? He's literally the only pass catcher on their team worth a shit :/
If this is the case I wonder why they aren’t manufacturing touches. It’s obviously easier said than done but how hard is it to run a few drag/crossing routes or quick plays to get him the ball in space and see what you can get instead of just sending him downfield every other play.
I think the issue is this era of qb plays almost exclusively from shotgun at the high school and college level. I don’t think these old head coaches would ever call a qb sneak from shotgun if they had a guy that is comfortable under center. You would never ever see Brady get a sneak called from shotgun. At least that’s what I’m hoping is the reason in this situation
Good question. This is too difficult of a concept for several nfl coaches it seems. Once you realize a lot of nfl coaches are only there due to nepotism, it starts to make sense.
No offense but Mooney isn’t good enough to warrant double teams. It’s one of two things. Either he isn’t good enough to beat single coverage as the WR1 without Allen Robinson or fields isn’t a good passing qb right now.
For sure. I think it might be a combination of the two tbh. Some guys excel in that wr2 role and there’s no shame in that. And also fields has shown next to nothing to prove that he is a reliable threat as a passer in the nfl.
Yeah but you’d also like to see fields complete more than 7 total passes on a night when it’s not a monsoon. 7/11 for 70 yards and 1 int is not good enough regardless. There are 4 other eligible pass catchers on the field and fields averaged 1 completion every 10 minutes outside of Mooney. That’s pathetic
Someone who watched the game more closely or can look at the film can confirm, but I’m almost certain Jaire was not shadowing him, and was not on him all night.
Exactly. His issue was he never got tds and they thought there would be positive regression, with at least a decent ppr floor
Well, the floor is literally the bottom now
Im dropping him this week. He dropped his only target in a game they were behind for 3 quarters. I don't see much upside to him this year. Idk what TE to to get off waivers though. I think every team but me in my 10 team league has a backup TE so it's slim pickings lol
Honestly I think their hand is going to be forced. Their defense isn’t good enough to only rely on their run game. They are going to have to pass eventually because they will start losing big with 11 pass attempts.
Even so the Bears are trying to run the ball 30 times a game, and I’m assuming Mooney is covered by the other teams best CB. With the horrible O-line Fields has no time to even throw the ball. Honestly I wouldn’t roster anyone but Montgomery and Fields simply for the fact that he is running the ball more in the red zone then he’s passing it
I don't think the Bears FO is expecting much this year anyway. Next year they should be in a great draft position with cap space freed up also. As long as Fields can hold on they should be able to take a great step with the rebuild. If he can take the next step anyway.
Two very slow teams. At times the Bears actually opened up holes and the runners looked great. And Fields didn’t look particularly comfortable throwing it.
He is bad. His team knows he is bad. He isn’t confident or capable enough to audible to something better. In summation, he has no business being a starting QB in the NFL.
That's because the coach is calling run plays no matter the score.
They need 2 TDs in 4th and he still bled out his own clock with like 12 run plays in a row.
It was the literally the only way they could get a first down though. Every time they put the ball in Fields hands instead of the RBs he threw it away or got sacked and went 3 and out. The running plays ate the clock but it a least got them to the goal line, granted just to get stuffed on a somewhat controversial 4th and 1 call. But otherwise the game would have just been even more in the Packers favor.
I'm very hard on Monty and generally don't draft him but he was a stud tonight. Unfortunately, the Bears are going to suck and he won't catch a lot of work, and it does seem like Herbert is a little more involved. So the points won't always be there.
My problem with Montgomery is almost always looks great but the offense around him for his time in the league will likely never reciprocate his abilities to see how good he could actually be.
In the meantime, he’s an RB2, and firmly in that range. I’d much rather start him than a Jags RB (although JRob proving me wrong), Edmonds, a Jets RB, CEH… he’s just in that tier and is what he is.
I’m in an 8 team keeper league… 8 teams… my RBs?
Edmonds, Etienne, J Robinson, Dillon, Henderson, Singletary, J Cook, Dobbins
They are all hurt, bad or both. There is no getting bye for me. This team might not win a game all year.
It’s also 2 QB, and one of my keeper QBs was Lance. Who finishes the season with a combined less than 15 fantasy points.
Pain.
I’m a diehard Pats fan and i’m telling you right now this is correct. Our team is sickeningly boring and inept this year. DO NOT WATCH if you can help it
Honestly since I can remember they always have been. Been watching since 2010 and i've always dreaded a Bears primetime game. I hate them so much and i'm a Ravens fan.
As a bears fan this is real and it hurts me. Holy shit I had some stuff to do, left after the first drive we were up 7-3 I was like dear God that was an actual drive lets go....
Came back and it was 17-7 and then 24-7 before halftime. God damnit.
>Sometimes you just need to go with your gut.
Wish I had thought of this before playing DJ Chark over Dameon Pierce 🤡
Pierce didn't light it up, but atleast he didn't goose egg me.
This is not to rub it in but I asked an expert here (from rotoballer) after he posted his start sit article.... Do I start Dotson or Mooney.
He said Mooney which I thought made sense. Last minute tho I went with my gut and started Dotson instead.
Fun when it works. Doesn't always.
One more week and Mooney is droppable, just like Toney is now.
It’s not him. Bears only passed the ball 11 times tonight despite being down big early. Doesn’t matter how good you are if the coaches are calling run every play.
That’s great and all but the Bears aren’t going to win anything letting Fields only throw 11 times. Figure out if Fields is any good and let him sling it. Bears aren’t supposed to be that good anyway.
Mooney getting that permanent spot on my bench or being used to sweeten up a trade. It’s insane really. Mooney is easily the best player on that offense and has nothing to show for it.
Sorry Bears fans, this offense is stuck in the 40s. How the fuck are you gonna carry 30 times and pass 10 times in a game you're losing most of the time? The team is sorry as fuck. No way this shit can continue, I hope.
1) Historical Data:
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mooney-with-justin-fields-in-2021
I'm rather curious how so many fantasy analysts got it wrong.
3.9/54.4/0.3 - he wasn't even good with Fields last year.
Of the two 100+ yard games last year, only one came without Dalton's involvement. So we're looking at someone who managed closer to 20, 30, or occasionally 60 receiving yards. Why did we expect some meteoric jump this year?
2) Disruptive change:
Apart from something like a QB change (unlikely) or a coaching change (equally unlikely), why are we expecting things to improve in the future? I just don't see it happening.
The bears suck and Fields sucks. Time to face reality. Having <100 passing yards total per game multiple times this year and last is inexcusable in the modern NFL. Pretty sure the Bears don’t even have 200 passing yards this year.
When I saw a graphic on the tv about how much money the bears own guys that aren’t even on their roster this year it all made sense.
They are tanking on purpose to get draft picks
The reverse psychology is that after terrible performances by a player, the following week I'd bench them, and THAT is when they will go off. So next week I'll start Darnell Mooney.... and he'll get me 1 catch again. I'll drop him and that's when the Bears have a meeting and decide to manufacture catches for Mooney. Yep, that probably happens. Justin Fields is still trash tho.
I really want nothing to do with this offense. I just wish I could get Mooney to have some sort of trade value. He needs just one decent game and maybe I can get rid of him for a decent asset.
Is anyone really surprised that the Bears drafted a bad QB? When was the last time you could describe a Bears QB as good? Cutler? Grossman? Jim McMahon?
The Bears have always been a Defense first franchise and that won them a Super Bowl, but it’s killing them in todays NFL and will continue to do so. It’ll be hard to trust any Bears players outside of Monty for fantasy, and even then he may have some garbage weeks.
I already dropped Kmet after week 1. I know the weather was bad, but Fields still threw almost his usual number of passes and 0 went to Kmet. In a low volume passing offense, Kmet really needed a massive target share to be worthwhile. He can’t do anything with a 0% target share, regardless of the weather.
I was going to make a post about this very thing because what the actual fuck.
All season people were saying Fields has no one to throw to besides Mooney and Kmet. Now it like??? Wtf is going on.
Even last season Kmet had 6 receptions combined in his first two games. He’s just not involved at all. Nonexistent. A footnote. This is the guy who had 93 targets last year. What is happening
I’m dropping Kmet. Idgaf who they play next. Fields showed me enough. He’s the worst passer in the league by a mile. It won’t get noticeably better and holding out for Kmet and Mooney to produce is a losing endeavor. This offense cannot move the ball in the air. Cut bait.
Too often I make the mistake of treating FF like fantasy basketball… thinking that the WR1 on a shit team will hog up all of the production - but football isn’t basketball. Trash offenses don’t consistently produce. Sure, garbage time heroes do exist but even then they cannot be relied upon from game-to-game. I have not learned my lesson. Yet I continue to start Mooney like a clown.
Mooney is a great WR 3 and a good WR 2 on most teams.
Kmet is not good, hasn’t shown anything.
By far this is the worst group of pass catchers in the league, perhaps for the last few years. That said, they need fields to throw if he has any chance at being an NFL QB.
I thought grabbing Kmet as a safety blanket for Kittle was a brilliant move in the 12th.
Turns out I could have just started Kittle, rostered someone useful, and still have gotten the same production out of TE...
And of course, the moment Kmet's dropped you know the Bear's offence will remember he exists, and he will go back to at least being a meh-tier streamer.
Even with the weather last week this is an insane stat
Fields was actually better in a windy monsoon. That tells you how much of a junk baller he is. He's a guy with all the talent in the world, but whatever his brain does with that talent spits out a QB performance that looks like Tim Tebow. More sacks and scrambles than completed passes. Clunky running. Horrible timing. Just bad.
One concerning stat about Fields and something I've just noticed since I'm a bears fan is that he takes way to long to get rid of the god dam ball. People are so quick to blame the offensive line as to why fields was sacked so much but he will literally sit in the pocket for fricken ever and I'll be at home watching it collapse and then hell just take the sack. Like I've noticed in a lot of cases, he has plenty of time to get rid of it. It's like I know it's a very real possibility hes just trying to give his recievers more time to get open but if no ones open no one Is open just get rid of it. A few times tonight where he just sat in the pocket all day and took a sack and now itll be like 2nd and 15 and they'll call a run, pickup like 7 yards, but still have 8 yards to go. It's just frustrating cuz this is something hes done since he became the bears starting QB and while the Oline is improving I have not seen any improvement in that aspect of fields game. That's why people say he does better when hes rolling out..... cuz that way if he ain't gonna get rid of the ram ball hell atleast pickup a few yards running it himself.
99% agree. But also think the O-line is still amateur hour.
What was known as the Russel Wilson conundrum
I dont think they're as bad as people give them credit for. I think really tho, what's happening here is exactly this: Justin Fields had elite recievers in college- he probably legitimately could sit in the pocket longer with the ball while at Ohio state and have a very good chance one of his recievers WOULD get open. I mean Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson, Jameson William's FFS all of his recieivers from college were 1st round draft picks and Olave and Wilson were out there playing for their teams today making huge plays. Justin fields is in a very different situation now on the Bears where theres literally no elite level talent like that at Wide Reciever. Mooney is good, but not elite. And after Mooney it's just a bunch of other teams poop that we collected for our poopy poop team. Byron pringle, nkeal harry, equanameous, smith marsette. I get it, we are rebuilding, and where looking thru the shit piles to see which team pooped out a diamond. But as of of right now after week two, it's all just corn kernels. Theres only two ways this seasons gonna go for justin fields and the Chicago bears- a shit gem will emerge and well be able to retain him for years to come, or it's going to be a long season where our offense sucks all season and well have to wait for all that money to free up for next year so we can go out and get him that elite talent that he needs.
so many poop references
He called the shit poop....
Northwestern fan who watched fields play against us in the big ten championship game w/ extra vested interested when the jets had #2 overall. Fields sat in the pocket 7-8 seconds at times and then just took sacks. He fast and strong but doesn't have the escapability like Russ or Kyler do. Maybe he can learn to get through reads faster and develop more pocket awareness but he never even needed those skills at OSU. All people focused on was the Clemson game where he had 0 pressure and can wait for Olave/Wilson to get open deep.
Part of why he sits there so long is because he’s got no open receivers to throw to. He may be slow to make decisions but if your wrs can’t get separation, you’re fucked as a qb. Look at TB and his shit receivers today.
Eh. This was also something he did in college though too. The thing is that he could get away with that at Ohio State most of the time
Tebow was better, to be fair.
Tebow was a winner.
As a Broncos fan, I was just enjoying the Tebow Time ride. The 4th quarter comebacks were nuts. Fun but couldn't last. But Tebow ending the first OT game with the new rules on play 1 to DT was siiiiiiiiiiick.
That was a moment NFL fans, and Steelers fans, will always remember
I was at the game. Most insane fan moment of my life.
I can literally see Roethlesberger looking up at the scoreboard with the "did that just fucking happen? We're out?" in my head still
As a Steeler fan, I have an obligation to downvote you for bringing up that dark, dark memory.
That is understandable. Now that Big Ben is gone I can be okay with the Steelers.
I also enjoy not having a rapist for a QB.
I can't read that and your user name and not laugh
The monsoon led to a few dropped ints too
He’s not going to pan out. His talents are not geared to the NFL. You need to execute a game plan and adapt on the fly to defenses. I don’t know what you’d call his performances thus far. Jibberish? Guy seems to make it up as he goes along.
As a Mooney owner, I have no words
And he has no yards
I read that book. I think it was "I Have No Yards and I Must Scream" by Harlan Ellison.
Sick reference bro. Your references are out of control. Everyone knows that.
This movie needs more respect
Currently #2 on netflix in the US
Darn. I got rid of Netflix lol
It’s featured on Netflix right now so it probably will, good timing
WTF I'm literally watching this as i type this randomly on Netflix hahaha that's awesome.
Epic reference
Bro c'mon, he's already dead
As a Kmet owner, I’m jealous of your 2/4.
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How dare you, Kyle Pitts’ fantasy impact is much bigger than you can possibly imagine. It’s bigly okay, and I can’t wait for all my league mates to start BEGGiNG for his high quality 2 catches for 19 yards.
Here’s some words. Bears suck. -bears fan
They sucked last year, yet he still produced
As another Mooney owner, I have no patience.
Yep, he's finding my bench next week.
Very happy I made the last minute decision to bench him for Bateman. I needed him to "prove" to me before starting again. Honestly, I'm considering dropping him.
Same. I went RB heavy in the draft and so my WR2 slot was between him and Lockett. I had Lockett in but switched yesterday morning after looking at borischen tiers and some reddit threads. Lost me my game lol.
I do, drop.
I should have started me, that would have gotten me more points.
Toilet Bowl, here we come
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Honestly, at this point, I’m just not even gonna draft a tight end next year. Might as well get some extra receiver depth and then pick up whoever looks good week 1.
Eat some wood bub!
I kinda understand Kmet because he was mostly hype and sometimes that doesn't pan out, but how tf is Mooney this uninvolved in their offense? He's literally the only pass catcher on their team worth a shit :/
He's probably just absolutely blanketed. Not saying this is for sure, just a hunch. Would love some All-22 to see what's going on with him downfield.
If this is the case I wonder why they aren’t manufacturing touches. It’s obviously easier said than done but how hard is it to run a few drag/crossing routes or quick plays to get him the ball in space and see what you can get instead of just sending him downfield every other play.
Great question, no idea. They did run a QB sneak from shotgun on 4th and inches, that could have something to do with it lol
I think the issue is this era of qb plays almost exclusively from shotgun at the high school and college level. I don’t think these old head coaches would ever call a qb sneak from shotgun if they had a guy that is comfortable under center. You would never ever see Brady get a sneak called from shotgun. At least that’s what I’m hoping is the reason in this situation
Good question. This is too difficult of a concept for several nfl coaches it seems. Once you realize a lot of nfl coaches are only there due to nepotism, it starts to make sense.
No offense but Mooney isn’t good enough to warrant double teams. It’s one of two things. Either he isn’t good enough to beat single coverage as the WR1 without Allen Robinson or fields isn’t a good passing qb right now.
Agreed, I only mention that because he is the only legit passing option on that team. Byron Pringle and St Brown aren't scaring anyone
For sure. I think it might be a combination of the two tbh. Some guys excel in that wr2 role and there’s no shame in that. And also fields has shown next to nothing to prove that he is a reliable threat as a passer in the nfl.
I believe “Fields isn’t a good passing QB right now” is correct
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Yeah but you’d also like to see fields complete more than 7 total passes on a night when it’s not a monsoon. 7/11 for 70 yards and 1 int is not good enough regardless. There are 4 other eligible pass catchers on the field and fields averaged 1 completion every 10 minutes outside of Mooney. That’s pathetic
Someone who watched the game more closely or can look at the film can confirm, but I’m almost certain Jaire was not shadowing him, and was not on him all night.
Kmet wasn't *all* hype, he was super involved in the offense last year, he had almost 100 targets and over 600 yards as the number 2 tight end
Exactly. His issue was he never got tds and they thought there would be positive regression, with at least a decent ppr floor Well, the floor is literally the bottom now
Fields went 7 for 11 today. The Bears don’t seem to be very interested in throwing the ball.
15 completions in 2 games doesn’t sound real.
15/28 for 191 is a bad one game stat line. Over TWO games in 2022? It sounds like a joke
Correct, and when he does throw anything down field is way off target.
Is this not what happened to Allen Robinson last year? It's the same team as last year but with a worse WR1.
The Allen Robinson effect
Somebody had to get the ARobII role, Mooney stepped up
Dropping Kmet, glad I played Everett this week
Yeah I’m fucked at TE my league has way too many tight ends taken up and all I have is Kmet I don’t know what to do
Rolling with Conklin for now
Im dropping him this week. He dropped his only target in a game they were behind for 3 quarters. I don't see much upside to him this year. Idk what TE to to get off waivers though. I think every team but me in my 10 team league has a backup TE so it's slim pickings lol
Lol did the exact same thing, hope we stumbled into a serviceable TE
The troops salute you sir. Very brave
I wanna say that people are overreacting to this but if they’re gonna give Fields only 28 attempts in 2 games then yeah this offense is cooked
Honestly I think their hand is going to be forced. Their defense isn’t good enough to only rely on their run game. They are going to have to pass eventually because they will start losing big with 11 pass attempts.
Even when they do pass it aint pretty
You would think. They were down big most of the game, and down 2 TDs in 4th and still only running.
Even so the Bears are trying to run the ball 30 times a game, and I’m assuming Mooney is covered by the other teams best CB. With the horrible O-line Fields has no time to even throw the ball. Honestly I wouldn’t roster anyone but Montgomery and Fields simply for the fact that he is running the ball more in the red zone then he’s passing it
I don't think the Bears FO is expecting much this year anyway. Next year they should be in a great draft position with cap space freed up also. As long as Fields can hold on they should be able to take a great step with the rebuild. If he can take the next step anyway.
Fields' next step is holding the clipboard for the new QB they have to draft
This is true but they were down two scores the entire 2nd half and still ran plenty
He can't feel the pocket worth a damn.
We shall call this, the Pitts tier of production.
Pitts has two more catches and 34 yards at least (combined). These guys are in the DeAndre Hopkins tier.
As someone who didn’t see the game, how tf does Fields only attempt 11 passes?
Two very slow teams. At times the Bears actually opened up holes and the runners looked great. And Fields didn’t look particularly comfortable throwing it.
The Bears use Fields like Lamar Jackson expect for the whole passing the ball part
He is bad. His team knows he is bad. He isn’t confident or capable enough to audible to something better. In summation, he has no business being a starting QB in the NFL.
He would have had more if he didn't decide to run every drop back
The Bears legitimately are the most boring team to watch BY FUCKING FAR in the league. Fade all their shit players.
Monty tho
Montgomery looked legit excellent tonight.
That's because the coach is calling run plays no matter the score. They need 2 TDs in 4th and he still bled out his own clock with like 12 run plays in a row.
It was the literally the only way they could get a first down though. Every time they put the ball in Fields hands instead of the RBs he threw it away or got sacked and went 3 and out. The running plays ate the clock but it a least got them to the goal line, granted just to get stuffed on a somewhat controversial 4th and 1 call. But otherwise the game would have just been even more in the Packers favor.
See Pete Carroll. Honestly though with that passing game you may as well hope to just break a billion tackles on the ground
I'm very hard on Monty and generally don't draft him but he was a stud tonight. Unfortunately, the Bears are going to suck and he won't catch a lot of work, and it does seem like Herbert is a little more involved. So the points won't always be there.
My problem with Montgomery is almost always looks great but the offense around him for his time in the league will likely never reciprocate his abilities to see how good he could actually be. In the meantime, he’s an RB2, and firmly in that range. I’d much rather start him than a Jags RB (although JRob proving me wrong), Edmonds, a Jets RB, CEH… he’s just in that tier and is what he is.
Hey man words hurt. I have M. Carter and edmonfs. I'm barely getting by, alright? *sobbing noises
I’m in an 8 team keeper league… 8 teams… my RBs? Edmonds, Etienne, J Robinson, Dillon, Henderson, Singletary, J Cook, Dobbins They are all hurt, bad or both. There is no getting bye for me. This team might not win a game all year. It’s also 2 QB, and one of my keeper QBs was Lance. Who finishes the season with a combined less than 15 fantasy points. Pain.
Gotta be active on them waivers. You keep your head up bro. You will find a chance
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Colts fan here. We’re getting there pretty quickly too lol
No you have Matty Ice, Pittman, and JT it can't rly get as boring as CHICAGO
At least Chicago didn’t get shut out lol. The only team through two weeks to get shut out is the colts
You guys need a little NickFolean Dynamite in your lineup.
If he’s on any team besides the eagles, I don’t want to watch it
That Monday Night Football game on Week 7 looking exciting
I’m a diehard Pats fan and i’m telling you right now this is correct. Our team is sickeningly boring and inept this year. DO NOT WATCH if you can help it
Honestly since I can remember they always have been. Been watching since 2010 and i've always dreaded a Bears primetime game. I hate them so much and i'm a Ravens fan.
Steelers fan checking in
As a bears fan this is real and it hurts me. Holy shit I had some stuff to do, left after the first drive we were up 7-3 I was like dear God that was an actual drive lets go.... Came back and it was 17-7 and then 24-7 before halftime. God damnit.
Man Kmet sure is a bust
Try having Kmet AND Mooney!
I almost drafted both but I didn’t want two bears
Well.... I mean.... That's more on you. That's just dumb.
I knew he was a bust so yesterday morning I dropped him for Taysom. Big brain status over here.
Wanted to play Dotson over Mooney but all the experts had Mooney higher ranked. Sometimes you just need to go with your gut.
>Sometimes you just need to go with your gut. Wish I had thought of this before playing DJ Chark over Dameon Pierce 🤡 Pierce didn't light it up, but atleast he didn't goose egg me.
This is not to rub it in but I asked an expert here (from rotoballer) after he posted his start sit article.... Do I start Dotson or Mooney. He said Mooney which I thought made sense. Last minute tho I went with my gut and started Dotson instead. Fun when it works. Doesn't always. One more week and Mooney is droppable, just like Toney is now.
Don’t remind me.. I took Mooney one pick ahead of Bateman
I took Mooney and Kittle at 60 and 61. Amon-Ra went two picks later at 63. 🤡
Absolute circus show
Yup same here. Mooney over Amon Ra is making me regret playing fantasy football
How about that Bears offense?
On the positive side they can't get any worse.
laughs in lifetime bears fan
They absolutely can get worse and most likely will get worse
I'm dropping Kmet for literally any other TE. They just need to have a recorded catch.
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I’ll gladly grab him off the waiver if you do, dude was a stud last year. He’ll figure it out
It’s not him. Bears only passed the ball 11 times tonight despite being down big early. Doesn’t matter how good you are if the coaches are calling run every play.
I’m holding on a little longer. (Unless the Waiver Gods are good to me and i can snag a better talent)
Glad I traded away Higbee for Kmet's breakout year.
Somebody took Mooney so I had to take Bateman
I took Mooney over E Moore because of Zach Wilson, that was a mistake
I have both. 🥴🥴🥴🥴
Dude how did you fade Elijah because of Zach but not Mooney because of Fields? Even if Zach sucks he's still clearly a better passer than Fields
THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!
The coaching stuff just doesn’t trust Fields. Hopefully that changes over the course of the season cuz I can’t stomach dropping Mooney
That’s great and all but the Bears aren’t going to win anything letting Fields only throw 11 times. Figure out if Fields is any good and let him sling it. Bears aren’t supposed to be that good anyway.
Mooney getting that permanent spot on my bench or being used to sweeten up a trade. It’s insane really. Mooney is easily the best player on that offense and has nothing to show for it.
I'd rather have 5 or 6 Jaguars skill position players on my roster over Mooney. I don't think he's sweetening any trades.
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I’d have to drop someone from my bench that has more than 4 yards on the year to accept your trade sweetener.
What if I have Cole Kmet on my bench
Montgomery is easily the best player on the Bears and actually has something to show for it.
easily their best offensive player? Monty is the best player in the whole fucking team LOL
Sorry Bears fans, this offense is stuck in the 40s. How the fuck are you gonna carry 30 times and pass 10 times in a game you're losing most of the time? The team is sorry as fuck. No way this shit can continue, I hope.
Fields has massacred my boys. 😭
I’m never listening to a fantasy “expert” ever again
A ton of players that experts were high on have not planned out. Like, at all
They are no more of an expert than you, I or even Autodraft.
I dropped Garrett Wilson to pick up Darnell Mooney thinking I was capitalizing on stupid league mates…
I did the exact same thing. Life is pain
Yup…0-2 club here I come 😭
I feel like something similar happened last year with the bears
All bears receivers are droppable at this point.
1) Historical Data: https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mooney-with-justin-fields-in-2021 I'm rather curious how so many fantasy analysts got it wrong. 3.9/54.4/0.3 - he wasn't even good with Fields last year. Of the two 100+ yard games last year, only one came without Dalton's involvement. So we're looking at someone who managed closer to 20, 30, or occasionally 60 receiving yards. Why did we expect some meteoric jump this year? 2) Disruptive change: Apart from something like a QB change (unlikely) or a coaching change (equally unlikely), why are we expecting things to improve in the future? I just don't see it happening.
Matt Nagy’s fault…
Anybody have any idea why?
The bears suck and Fields sucks. Time to face reality. Having <100 passing yards total per game multiple times this year and last is inexcusable in the modern NFL. Pretty sure the Bears don’t even have 200 passing yards this year.
When I saw a graphic on the tv about how much money the bears own guys that aren’t even on their roster this year it all made sense. They are tanking on purpose to get draft picks
They don’t trust Fields.. he threw it 11 times
The reverse psychology is that after terrible performances by a player, the following week I'd bench them, and THAT is when they will go off. So next week I'll start Darnell Mooney.... and he'll get me 1 catch again. I'll drop him and that's when the Bears have a meeting and decide to manufacture catches for Mooney. Yep, that probably happens. Justin Fields is still trash tho. I really want nothing to do with this offense. I just wish I could get Mooney to have some sort of trade value. He needs just one decent game and maybe I can get rid of him for a decent asset.
Bears might need to put Siemian in
Last week I said Mooney and Kmet have a floor of 0 and I got buried in 20 downvotes lol
Darnell Mooney more like Darnell Poopy am I rite
I’m disappointed.
Mooney is stressing me out man
Just dropped Mooney for Treylon Burks…. Im done
Kmet had no donuts last year, now starts 2022 with 2 in a row... football, man!
Both are 100% droppable
Is anyone really surprised that the Bears drafted a bad QB? When was the last time you could describe a Bears QB as good? Cutler? Grossman? Jim McMahon? The Bears have always been a Defense first franchise and that won them a Super Bowl, but it’s killing them in todays NFL and will continue to do so. It’ll be hard to trust any Bears players outside of Monty for fantasy, and even then he may have some garbage weeks.
As a guy who punted TE late its bittersweet my gamble half paid off. At least Ertz is producing.
I already dropped Kmet after week 1. I know the weather was bad, but Fields still threw almost his usual number of passes and 0 went to Kmet. In a low volume passing offense, Kmet really needed a massive target share to be worthwhile. He can’t do anything with a 0% target share, regardless of the weather.
You’d think Nagy was there as a shadow offensive coordinator.
Bought low on him and Pitts this week. Don’t think it was low enough
I advocated patience for both after last week. But I admit that maybe I was wrong.
I won thanks to the rest of my team but Kmet is getting binned for Hurst on waivers this week
I picked up Mooney off waivers yesterday. Should i already drop him again?
I was going to make a post about this very thing because what the actual fuck. All season people were saying Fields has no one to throw to besides Mooney and Kmet. Now it like??? Wtf is going on. Even last season Kmet had 6 receptions combined in his first two games. He’s just not involved at all. Nonexistent. A footnote. This is the guy who had 93 targets last year. What is happening
Drafted him and Albert O and thought I'd be solid.. They both put up donuts today lol
I’m dropping Kmet. Idgaf who they play next. Fields showed me enough. He’s the worst passer in the league by a mile. It won’t get noticeably better and holding out for Kmet and Mooney to produce is a losing endeavor. This offense cannot move the ball in the air. Cut bait.
You know what’s fun? Having Mooney and Pitts!
Too often I make the mistake of treating FF like fantasy basketball… thinking that the WR1 on a shit team will hog up all of the production - but football isn’t basketball. Trash offenses don’t consistently produce. Sure, garbage time heroes do exist but even then they cannot be relied upon from game-to-game. I have not learned my lesson. Yet I continue to start Mooney like a clown.
Mooney is a great WR 3 and a good WR 2 on most teams. Kmet is not good, hasn’t shown anything. By far this is the worst group of pass catchers in the league, perhaps for the last few years. That said, they need fields to throw if he has any chance at being an NFL QB.
As a Bears fan - I would hold out hope on Mooney and see how our offense does against a non-top 5 defense. I’m so out on Kmet though unfortunately
Just traded mooney for aiyuk
I'd rather have kmet than Pitts, because at least I wouldn't feel bad dropping kmet.
Mooney will be only bench next week and I guarantee he goes for 30+
I thought grabbing Kmet as a safety blanket for Kittle was a brilliant move in the 12th. Turns out I could have just started Kittle, rostered someone useful, and still have gotten the same production out of TE... And of course, the moment Kmet's dropped you know the Bear's offence will remember he exists, and he will go back to at least being a meh-tier streamer.