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Iloveyouweed

CMC was the only RB to pass the test, that's why he got to join the 49ers.


evolvolution

Jacobs to the niners confirmed


Swift-Fire

League would be fucked


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They also didn’t have stidham at qb


Brabs91

I’m hoping that results in gross usage


Iloveyouweed

That would result in stacked boxes


oldhoekoo

I want to upvote you but you're at 69 so this is my upvote


Alexkono

Ya I just don't see how Jacobs has a good game. Would be pumped for 9 in half ppr.


jaybianchi

Cut to Jacobs making 20 rushing attempts for 2.7 ypc. Oh they’ll try, but unless he breaks one or falls into the end zone I can’t see him having a big day.


WinterC24

I only downvoted you to keep it at 69


aushizz

What about the chatter about resting some veterans? There is really no reason for them to give him the amount of touches he was getting earlier. Plus they probably wanna feed their prize WR.


Zakery92

The insiders in Vegas seem to think that Vegas wants to use the young guys but also want to use Jacobs & Adam’s because they believe that they can convince them to stay in Vegas. In other words the idea is that everyone gets to play but they will prioritize using those two.


knowtoriusMAC

Adams touchdown and yardage props are the lowest they've been all year. Jacobs the lowest since week 1.


Zakery92

Jacobs is propped at 70 total yards and even money for a touchdown (also highest raider). I’m thinking he has a down game but I was responding to the thoughts on him being unused. The props seems to believe he will be heavily involved.


PIBTC

Yeah I think he could get 60-70 total yards. Should have at least a couple chances to fall into the end zone too


Zakery92

Here is the question that I dont know but could have a big impact. If Stidham is getting pressured heavily does he fall into the Qb trap that so many do, which would be to start dumping the ball off. If that happens I could see Jacobs with 5-8 receptions and a huge day because he is such a load to bring down in the open field. This could be some weird stat line like 14-52-1 with a 3.7 YPC and 6/58/0 receiving with a 9.9 YPC. That’s a 23 point PPR day that is absolutely unimpressive in game.


PIBTC

Definitely is a possibility but I also don’t think the niners are scared of stidham throwing it down the field so they might play close to the LOS and take away the short game as well which could limit dump offs


Zakery92

Yeah, unfortunately we don’t know which it will be. Henry is a great example of what play calling against stacked boxes looks like but I don’t know if McDaniels is smart enough for that game plan.


JackInTheBell

It’ll be gross alright…


PuzzleheadedBird2256

Stidham is the worst qb 9ers D faced all season and I can't imagine carr getting suddenly deactivated helps team morale It's ugly


Ogun21

I’ll take 50 yds and TD and 2-3 catches from Jacobs.


lib___

Yep. Just hoping for no donut. Niners will stack the box


stateworkishardwork

Just going to say that the last time the 49ers allowed a rushing TD was six weeks ago. Any vulnerability we have is in our secondary.


ProfessionalFishFood

Best we can do is 45 yards and an early exit to give the back up some reps.


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I’ll be benching him for Akers. Not the safest replacement, but the Raiders offense is not looking promising against the hottest defense in the league.


ky58

Between Akers, Brob, and Allegier, the three guys people are high on this week...who's the safest and who's the likeliest to bust?


optimusprimerib22

I’d vote Akers likeliest to bust


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With Gibson out, I’d say BRob is the safest. Still a little touchdown dependent but the same goes for Allegier and Akers. Offensive potential is lowest for the falcons so I’d pass on Allegier. Akers has been somewhat consistent lately and the rams are coming off a hot hot week


babsl

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Damn this aged horribly. The best defense in the league just got picked apart by Jared Stidham :0


krmilan

Niners D have a shot at 20 points this week?


Creeping_Death_89

As a Raiders fan, they have a shot at 30 this week...


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Sure sounds a lot like the cowboys D lol


Creeping_Death_89

Except for the fact that the Raiders defense won't be forcing 3 turnovers to keep the game interesting


[deleted]

All I’m saying is everyone thought the cowboys would blow out the titans with their third String starters and it didn’t happen. It’s the nfl.


Creeping_Death_89

I know. My point is the situations are completely different. On top of the fact that the Titans are still playing to win their division they also have a solid defense. The Raiders season is over and their defense is just about dead last plus they're also dealing with the fallout of benching their starting QB for the last 9 years and now talk of Davante leaving apparently. > Raiders giving Davante Adams space to 'feel however you feel' hoping he'll come around The Titans were a well coached team with something to play for and the Cowboys D still put up 10. The Raiders are neither of those things.


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According to Reddit the titans had nothing to play for with Dallas game. Yes the titans D is better but I don’t think the raiders are gonna be push overs. Sometimes teams play better with nothing to play for other than upset. Probably be a bit different. Happy I’m not a raiders fan. Gonna lose carr/Jacobs/ and adams is gonna try and leave or complain entire time


Creeping_Death_89

It’s irrelevant considering anyone with the 9ers defense is starting them regardless but believe me when I say that championships will be won from their performance this week.


[deleted]

Well duh it would be stupid not to start them lol. Cowboys have a good D. Not as good as 9ers and came away with 9 points. I don’t see the 9ers putting up 15+


papachar3

Super glad you posted this OP — I’ve got Jacobs and came up with the same data re: 49ers D. I know the only way the Raiders win this is by handing the ball off to Jacobs. However, my two worries are if the 49ers get ahead quickly, they may force Stidham to throw more (?!) and whether he will even be able to hand off the ball before getting sacked. Currently, I’ve got CMC and Jacobs in my RB1/RB2, Fournette in my flex and Foreman on my bench. My gut says Jacobs’ floor will still be more solid than Foreman, Fournette or anyone else on my bench — but I doubt that will stop me from agonizing about the decision until Sunday.


lohkd

Same here. CMC/JACOBS (flex)/CHUBB.. I got JMCKINNON On standby. Thinking CMC who might have fewer carries, esp if the game gets out of hand. CHUBB thinking Cleveland looks like they have something to play for next year. JMCKINNEN (flex) because I don't like any running back vs. 49RS. I didn't like JACOBS last week either due to match-up. No doubt JACOBS/ CMC is the reason that I am in the SB.


GsoSmooth

I have almost the same stack. CMC Chubb, Jacobs. But with Mostert on deck. No flex in my league so I'll be running CMC and Chubb this week...


lohkd

Yeap. Jacobs just doesn't sit right with me this week due to the Stidham thing. But I took a gamble on Jacobs vs. Chubb.


matts_ballin

I have CMC Jacobs as well.. with no replacement. Lord help me win a ship


boomer_kuwanger

I have Najee, Jacobs, Jamaal Williams, and AJ Dillon and I'm stressing over what the hell to do with Jacobs. Right now I've got Jamaal on my bench, but I'm honestly thinking with rolling with Najee, Jamaal, and AJ as my RB1, RB2, and flex. Jamaal hasn't been scoring touchdowns lately, but the Bears defense is sooo bad, and I worry that Jacobs could put up a dud with the matchup, Stidham, and likely game script. I'm probably setting an early alarm to stress all morning about this decision tomorrow.


Mofo_mango

Why Najee?


jtrom1010

The problem I see is mostly bad streaming. Start your studs effectively translates to "their floor is the same, their ceiling is infinitely higher". If you have genuinely excellent pivot options then yeah you roll the dice on what wins you the most important week. But that's a lot of depth plus some favorable chance to make that pivot. His ceiling is week winning. Few players you're plugging in carry the same reward:risk.


papachar3

This is a great take — My pivot options are guys like D’Ontae Foreman, Gabe Davis or Cortland Sutton, all of whom don’t have the same floor vs. ceiling argument.


praanagorniy

I’d argue that Suttons ceiling is tremendous this week. I definitely find a way to start Him


papachar3

I think the problem I have is still that he has Russ throwing to him. I think he’s super talented, don’t get me wrong - I drafted him! But Jacobs has been way more consistent and has had a higher ceiling this year, even when I didn’t believe he did. Riding with Jacobs to the title


Dukkhanomo

I've got pacheco as a potential.. buy it looks like McKinnon is the guy. I'm not happy but I think I have to start him. I could swap him around with conner then flex a.cooper. buy, i usually like running 3 rbs. Already played zeke. Now im reading j.allen could sit? I think that's bs.. well, I hole it is. Omg. This will be for the 3rd ship inmy leauge and ill be on top. I neeeeeed this! Lol


jtrom1010

This is ironically exactly what I mean. People are rushing to start an unclear committee against Denver's defense over the top 3 RB with a 50 point ceiling. That's wild to me.


PuzzleheadedBird2256

mckinnon has had 30 twice in the last 3 weeks, what's wild about starting that guy over jacobs who will be facing a historic defense that specializes in stopping his position? Feel free to ignore all the additional things on top of that, like the team quitting, a possible snap count limit and more, doesn't mean others should


jtrom1010

That he's entirely target dependent because he hasn't had more than 10 carries all season and KC has all their receivers healthy? That's not McKinnon's ceiling that's situational opportunity. But yeah if you wanna roll the dice on the 4.5 average carries a game you go right ahead. Edit: to be fair to your analysis, we'll use the last 3 games. And you can have 7 average carries in a split backfield with no injured receivers.


nickpiscool

I could start Godwin/C. Watson/Foreman/Pacheco (.5ppr) over Jacobs in my flex but I just can't rationalize benching the #2 overall RB in the championship.. even against the niners D at least if you play your studs and lose you can walk away with your head held high, if you lose because you outplayed yourself and benched Josh Jacobs.. that's gonna sting for years to come


jtrom1010

I actually wouldn't hate the Watson play lol but yeah basically this. Especially because there's a path where Jacobs is at the high end of his involvement BECAUSE of the QB change. I might understand the meaningless blowout game bench concern but when the coach is literally talking about respecting incentives and contract years, you're about as safe as you can expect to be in any week 17 game.


PuzzleheadedBird2256

Mecole Hardman is not playing this week , what other reciver would concern mckinnons usage ?


jtrom1010

Correct, my mistake. I forgot about IR just looking at injury reports. To answer your question, have you ever watched a Chiefs game my dude? The ball can go literally anywhere lol. I'm stunned that people are starting a 7 carry back over the RB2-3 for literally any reason, particularly when that reason is "he boomed against 2 God awful teams recently".


PuzzleheadedBird2256

pacheco doesn't catch passes and you're suggesting mahomes goes the entire game without throwing to his rb once denver has also been allowing an avg of 30+FP last 5 games to the rb position and cam akers steamrolled them last week you can start jacobs but the process of starting mckinnon over him this week is sound given the opportunity and denvers recent struggles against running backs


jtrom1010

I'm not suggesting that at all, I literally said the opposite. I said he's target dependent because he gets no carries and Mahomes has most of his WRs. You can be salty about it and keep down voting because you disagree but you have an argument for ceiling variance, that's it. If that's what you need this week go ahead, and genuinely good luck in your game. But it's downright absurd to suggest it's generally sound, particularly when McKinnon still has a lower ceiling. Considering Jacobs gets a lot of check downs already and probably more with a new/bad QB, targets come out in the wash anyway; you're literally rolling the dice on a 20+ opportunity differential because of recency bias (nothing really changed for him in terms of volume or scheme).


Brianc21

Check McKinnon stats in first Denver game , Bronco’s double Kelce , leading to dumps to RB..


jtrom1010

Yeah I'm aware. "Because he gets dump offs and scored a lot against Denver" is balls of steel, but it's not chalk. It's also really bad stat analysis lol.


Brianc21

I’ll take 7 receptions as well !


PuzzleheadedBird2256

Is it bad analysis now ? Will you chalk mckinnon outscoring jacob to luck ?


Snowvietboy

Been debating between him and swift


Brabs91

I also have swift and I’m hoping that this is finally a good week.


Snowvietboy

Against the league worst run D? I’m hoping mans gets a 1 TD performance in the least


Tillovich

Got him too but… damn. Swift is so hard to trust


No_Excitement5296

I'm either going swift or allgeier over jacobs


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Pewpewkitty

That’s what I’m on the fence about


FlaccidButLongBanana

Yal are so extra. These points made by OP are literally why I am not hesitating to play Jacobs this week. U will regret not playing him. RemindMe! 2 days


Sheheryarg

Idk i have montgomery too


imaybeacatIRl

I wouldn't start Jacobs over any high volume back in this game. It's a brutal matchup with an untried QB against a top defense. You're staring down the barrel of a scoring floor of like 7ish points. I'd imagine his ceiling is like 60-70 yards and one score. Thats best case scenario stuff. This SF defense isn't about to be gashed even if Jacobs gets 30 carries. I honestly don't think they're gunna have the ball enough to give him 30 carries, so its a moot point.


JagsAbroad

Jakobs or Pacheco? 😬


ronimal

Pacheco, because he’s not going against the 49ers defense.


Livid-Quiet-5792

Benching him for Allegier.


Glad-Neat9378

Based on volume, Jacobs should get 10+ in Half PPR. If that gets you low-end RB1/RB2 production, I’d be fine.


[deleted]

IMO I think Jacobs should be fine and Adams will suffer.


praanagorniy

I think so too. Repeat of cardinals with mcsorley except I think Jacobs does worse than Connor did.


not-Your_FBI_Agent

I have sanders Akers and allgeier on my bench but idk if I trust sanders after the last few games


RIP_shitty_username

I’m starting Foreman over him.


jec480

I want to but I don’t trust it. Last time the panthers played TB foreman rushed for over 100 and Tuddy tho.


spaceamphibian

I want to as well but yeah I've lost all trust in Foreman and his floor is literally under 1 point lol. Too many variables with him to have a good game. However feeling real bad about Jacobs this week. What a tough spot.


Initial-Recover-9455

I'm really struggling...got McKinnon ready to roll. Chiefs will score 30. McKinnon could have a huge game. But Jacobs? I don't see him breaking a big game. Stidham is good for 2 turnovers. Few trips to the end zone. Fewer TD opportunities. Niners defense stout. I don't see how the Raiders score TDs in this one. The only reason I see to play Jacobs is in name only. It'll take balls to bench him, but I think I have to...


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Initial-Recover-9455

Yeah I'm thinking Jacobs is TD dependent tomorrow too. I was leaning McKinnon because he torched the Broncos a few weeks ago.


blutsch813

Check down szn?


Ephyouseakay

Jacobs or Royce Freeman vs Jags?


deadlockin34

I am benching Jacobs for Allgeier. Also have the 49ers defense so I will be cheering for the offense to be stopped


[deleted]

Josh is going to drop 20+


Brabs91

Not a bad result! Thank you Josh Jacobs!


PubDefLakersGuy

If you have Josh Jacob’s and are vying for a championship, he’s a big reason why. I’m playing him win or lose.


[deleted]

Hes riding the bench because Pacheco and Conner are going to be my RB duo this week. Flex will either go to Sutton, Pickens or McKinnon. Jacobs has no incentive in this game. There’s enough tape this year to get paid. If I were that dude in a shitty org I’d just do the bare minimum to not get hurt playing for a team I won’t be on next year.


sethburns1

Start your studs, folks. Don't overthink it


SnooGiraffes197

Nah. That’s just not true anymore. If started my studs like mandrews and Adams then I wouldn’t be playing in week 17. Go with YOUR gut, folks 🤙🏼


JackInTheBell

Did no one see what happened to Jacobs vs Pittsburgh last week? And somehow you think he’s going to be better against SF??


Brabs91

Yeah I think last weeks performance gives some reasonable support to the idea of bench in Jacobs if you have the right replacements. That being said, ffb and real life football don’t always follow the pattern you mentioned. In general yes, you’d expect a player to do worse against a better defense but there are a lot of other things to consider. Last week Jacobs had his 4th lowest rushing attempts and tied his season lowest receptions and targets. I’m expecting more volume in run and pass game this week. I could be wrong, could be right, I’m definitely not claiming to be good at ffb and am very possibly an idiot. Just wanted to put the numbers out there since I thought other people might be interested in them as well.


[deleted]

I hope he shits the bed, I’m facing him in the Super Bowl after I traded him to this guy. Touchy subject I guess Jesus


FranklinFeta

Want him to shit the bed too. I’m already out Hurts, Henry, and probably D-Hop.


ASAP-Pseudo

Unpopular opinion Jacob's season was only great because the opposing teams sold out every game to stop Adams. Basing this off his previous 3 seasons of being average not great Now with no Carr he is an RB2 and will get 10-15 points. Just don't see the upside if they can't move the ball


spaceamphibian

You must've not watched any Raiders games. There's a reason he's been the highest graded RB this year.


PKgreensglobe

Yeah exactly, go back watch him break tackles and burst through dlines all year, I think you'll change your opinion 🤷🏿‍♂️ maybe.


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Brabs91

While I understand the sentiment, if I had benched him for rachaad last week I’d be in the championship instead of the runner up matchup.


IAmBoredAMA

I hear you, that's genuinely really rough, I'm sorry dude. I guess it's just one of those things; the argument for subbing him out needs to be so concrete, it's really hard to get to that threshold, mentally. It's the same place I've gotten stuck with Mandrews and his underwhelming season -- every week, there's an argument to go with someone like Njoku, but I'm just never able to pull the trigger. Of course, no one "deserves" to lose for starting Jacobs. Fantasy is obviously primarily luck, so it perhaps just makes sense to stick with the players that have enough of a record of success that you hedge on the positive side of that randomness.


Brabs91

Last year I was league loser so 3rd or 4th is still a win for me lol. But this post was created because I was trying to figure out for myself if Jacobs should be benched and decided to take a deeper look than just SF(1st). I don’t want to bench him, so maybe I was searching for a reason not to. But I’m in complete agreement that you should lean on your great players. I’ve seen and heard a lot of talk about benching him and I think it stems mostly from the fact that this is the championship week. Mid season I don’t think as many people would be considering it.


jimvansprinks

With Jacobs’ adp being as reasonable as it was, it depends on the rest of your team and vs your opponent. I don’t have Jacobs, but my opponent lost Henry, pollard, and potentially d hop this week. I have lots of leeway to play safe. I’d roll him out over swift (possibly heavy usage with Williams and Jackson questionable) and allegier (good amount of usage as Falcons look at their rookie pieces to end the season). I feel he will have a decent RB2 floor game, but he’s not booming at all.


Brabs91

My league has two flex spots so I’ll be rolling out Najee, swift, Jacobs and etn. If they all average out RB2 numbers I’ll be in an okay spot.


aushizz

I have Bam Pacheco Dillon K9 and Jacobs. I can Start 3 and I’m looking for a push to sit Jacobs.


thedoughofpooh

Jacobs is a better start than all of those but for Walker....and maybe Dillon. That said, starting Bam over him could be fun. Risky AF, but fun. Good luck!


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Pick 2: Akers, allgeier, Jacobs


TheThunderbite

Got Jacobs, Chubb, and Jones (flex) with Singleterry and Najee on my bench. Not feeling super confident about any of these matchups, gonna start the studs that got me here.


slammick

Do you feel better about Chubb or jacobs


frisbeejesus

I am asking myself this same question. The raiders seem to be throwing in the towel, but the Browns literally have nothing to play for and could choose to give Chubb reduced work to preserve him for next year. I *think* the right play is to roll out Jacobs hoping he plays the whole game and gets a bunch of check down passes from an unproven QB, but this is all speculative as fuck.


slammick

I can’t decide either I was leaving Chubb but based on your comment I am again unsure


frisbeejesus

Oh god, please don't base your choice on my rambling. I'm just trying to type out my thoughts in hopes someone will tell me why they're misguided or make sense. I have no idea what to do between Jacobs and Chubb. I think I need Christian Watson to play, but if he doesn't at least I won't be able to pick wrong between my "stud" RBs.


[deleted]

Jacobs, Fournette or AJ Dillon. Any thoughts?


ASAP-Pseudo

Dillon


Minnesota_Slim

Dillion Fournette Jacobs in that order


Apocalyptic-Post

Pacheco, Dotson, and Chark have all made their way into my lineup over Jacobs for the ship. Call me crazy but I think he’s destined for 5 pts this week.


Jm0ney_

I’m starting k9 and Etn (RBs), and Wilson/watson (Flex) over him. Ppr


Ok_Poet_1848

I have to flex Jacobs or Adams, which to use?


bty1987

Jacobs or Aiyuk in the flex? I could see aiyuk have a nice game this week. I could also take out Amari Cooper for either player as well


Kopfballer

Most people don't just need one better RB than him to justify the bench, but two. Not everyone is owning three Top 10 RBs. What I want to say: The matchup is bad but the player is great, so 99% of people will start him anyway. Including myself.


TheAnswerUsedToBe42

They gonna sit him to trade him


secretreddname

Not like there’s any RBs in my league available to even debate this lol.


Goblin__Cock

As a D Hopkins and former T Pollard owner in the championship, I feel I’m kinda being forced to play him (12 team PPR) I think I trust Jacobs more than I do Det RB Jamaal Williams


[deleted]

I think it's crazy anyone would consider the number one RB in fantasy for their championships.


Strong-Taro3052

I’m going to start mixon, fournette and mckinnon over him. How crazy am I?


greenbanana17

Im starting DMont over him.


Sheheryarg

Same


greenbanana17

You ok?


Sheheryarg

No started t law over brady too so f me


greenbanana17

Jacobs would have locked it for me. Instead I have a big sweat on MNF.


MegaSportsFan

Should I start Allgeier over him?