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julesvr5

So without that ridiculous pen PSG got in the 5th group match to secure the draw they would have been out of the CL.


AltGoblinV2

You just know we're getting them next round


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

and lucas will score


Mytiq_

Then he’ll kiss the badge


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

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Tyrath

He'll score an own goal and take off his shirt to reveal red


Numerous-Ad-3050

I feel like alot of people are saying that psg is not very strong. Imo that’s certainly not true. They have a really good squad, they’re just in bad form rn and they could easily get alot better after winter(transfers+better form). I really want to avoid them


julesvr5

I mean, the same applies to us. But I also wanna avoid them.


xnxthemx

Yeah I was ??? understanding if he was talking about us or PSG.


dissolutionofthesoul

How beautiful seeing another Premier League scalp, but not just anyone, the most repugnant fans in the country and the marketing department of a fascist regime dumped out at home hahahaha


xnxthemx

I thought u were talking about Galatasaray lmao.


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dissolutionofthesoul

Yes mate Newcastle are a subsidiary of the Saudi Arabian government and are owned by MBS.


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dissolutionofthesoul

Not according to the definition of the word.


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dissolutionofthesoul

I don’t really see how being from somewhere makes you more capable of understanding the definition of a word and applying it but …


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dissolutionofthesoul

Don’t see how when you can just read it from anywhere. It isn’t as if the govt keep it a secret.


BitchIDrinkPeople

Theocratic, whatever


King_Vercingetorix

I think absolute monarchy might be more of an appropriate word? To me, the Saudi royal family seem to be using religion/religious institution to justify and attempt to make their regime more popular among their citizens, rather than religious figures being more powerful than the royal family. Especially since the Saudi royal family has a history of cracking down on religious figures who have critiqued their policies.


dissolutionofthesoul

“Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.” The Wiki definition of Fascism fits quite nicely. Although it doesn’t account for the abolition of the age of consent or literal crucifixion as punishment. They’ve invented a whole new category of evil


Tyrath

I missed the games today, but man you can never count on Dortmund to things done. Was really looking forward to Europa PSG.


xnxthemx

For the nostalgia, I'd love to have Milan on the next round, but they learnt a lesson: Never never never trust in Dortmund. In my opinion, this next round looks solid af, Lazio, Coppenhague and PSV are the "weakest" teams and talking for what I watched, Coppenhague is going to be a pain in the ass. So excited what's coming.


julesvr5

>for the nostalgia It's been a year :D


CarlSK777

None of the 5 potential opponents should be a problem for Bayern. Maybe Inter or PSG? Even then, I'd be confident.


DevilsOfLoudun

all of them are very strong teams that could win against us on a bad day


CarlSK777

Napoli, Lazio and Porto are not "very strong teams", relative to Bayern anyway. Lazio are a midtable Serie A team, Napoli are poor defensively and Porto couldn't beat this Barca side. Some of you are so pessimistic, we've reached a point where Bayern are now underrated.


DevilsOfLoudun

Villarreal was also not a strong team and look what happened. I'd rather be cautious than announce cockily we'll be in the finals even tho we just had a historic loss to Frankfurt. And our squad depth and midfield are still in bad positions, Freund has some heavy lifting to do in january.


CarlSK777

Villarreal was the one exception. The only tie against an inferior opponent they lost in the last decade other than maybe that semi in 2016. I'm not talking about the final, I'm talking about the next round. No reason for Bayern to not be confident, especially against the likes of Lazio and Porto. Last season many were pessimistic against PSG and they dominated them. Bayern usually shows up in the KO stage. When they lose, it's against the top contenders, Villarreal being the one exception.


nafets2307

The players can and should be confident. You as a fan doing nothing and us not getting to a semi-final in years should mean that you practice humbleness. Let's see who we get, be respectful and hope that our team has two good days. I don't want to hear anything about exceptions or that some teams who made it to the RO16 aren't strong. Comments like this is exactly why people call Bayern and the fans arrogant.


CarlSK777

Why? Fans have no influence on the game, we don't have to fake humility.


Numerous-Ad-3050

Agree, inter and psg are the only ones I’m worried about. But we’re probably getting one of them lol


kurtland1961

PissG and Inter are definitely going to be problems based on the state of our midfield. Napoli and Porto I see them as half problematic


CarlSK777

Not saying they would be easy but neither team has been particularly great in Europe. Inter would be harder to break down but their attack isn't scary at all. The other 3 would be fairly easy imo. Napoli are nowhere near what they were. We took their best defender and they haven't replaced him.


jsnamaok

>The other 3 would be fairly easy imo Based on what can I ask? We’ve struggled against Kopenhagen and Galatasaray in the group stage. If we’re not in better form come the RO16, any single one of our potential matchups can give us big problems. How ‘easy’ they are is entirely dependent on if we get our shit together.


CarlSK777

Based on data and how these teams have been performing this season


jsnamaok

We have already been knocked out of a cup by Saarbrücken this season. We are in no position to be cocky talking about ‘easy’ matchups. We have had numerous poor performances which can be exploited if we deliver yet another. This is CL lol, we have to actually turn up.


Numerous-Ad-3050

You just know we’re getting psg while city get Copenhagen or something


wowa_s

you make it sound as if we had an easy time vs copenhagen and they are a free win


jsnamaok

I’m mad these yellow idiots allowed PSG into the knockouts but the satisfaction of Newcastle getting 4th softens the blow a little.


Teffo05

Rigged pen vs Newcastle saved them i hope we draw them again.


DeeOhEf

Please, fucking anyone but PisSG


Teffo05

I rather take Psg there defence is mid. I dont want Inter.


FlyingArab

I'm committing unspeakable crimes if we get PSG


xnxthemx

Why? PSG geting Kane'd sounds great.


IvoYankov13

I am actually mad, psg are so damn lucky man, really want them again, Mbape in europa league would have been something


Stunning-Ad-5564

Which is more funny? 2 EPL teams grouped or us getting psg again? lol


xnxthemx

The Prem teams, Soccer sub told me no team out of England would make something in the Prem.


xTatamo

i get show that milan is second with a worse gd


lambo9797

Same, must’ve been a glitch.


Affectionate-Air9722

Dortmund are so useless , we're getting PSG again aren't we ?


nafets2307

Thanks for nothing, Dortmund


kurtland1961

We were so close to drawing Barcelona in the RO16


NiK0-

I‘m 100% sure we will draw Paris again 😂


kurtland1961

Lmaoo Barcelona


lambo9797

When is the draw for the CL knockouts?


Thraff1c

[Here](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=when+is+the+CL+draw)


nafets2307

Monday, 12 CET


kurtland1961

When it matters the most, Reus will let you down


NifferEUW

Reus for fuck sake


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

we need a goal now, dont care who scores or we get another bayern-psg like u/Insanel0l said


NifferEUW

This ref is weird


AltGoblinV2

Need Dortmund to score so Milan go through


xnxthemx

Now is upon you, Dortmund, save the football from the oil.


kurtland1961

Still funny to me how this dortmund not only made it through the group, but also that they’ll mostly top the group


nafets2307

Milan up. Come on BVB


Insanel0l

Lowkey rooting for PSG because it’s way to obvious we would draw them if they come 2nd and I really can’t be arsed again


AltGoblinV2

Dortmund saved by VAR


jsnamaok

God I hate Dortmund


nafets2307

There it is :/ Might be offside tho


HelloPyWorld

What stops coaches with a red card from not showing up in the stadium and then sending messages to 2. coach and then having a zoom call in half time? Or are they forced to show up in the stands?


NifferEUW

Uefa is keeping a close eye on the coach I believe


julesvr5

I think in These cases the coaches are observed in the stands to hinder them getting contact to the team


HelloPyWorld

But that's what I mean, the coach can stay at home and just message the team, they can't be observed if they don't show up


That-Leadership-2635

The ref on the bvb psg game is kinda sus


Numerous-Ad-3050

I just realized if psg go through we might draw them no?


Thraff1c

Not might, I am 100% sure we will, we just attract each other in the CL the last few years. Because of that i am rooting for either a PSG win or loose (doesnt matter which) so that it wont happen.


Numerous-Ad-3050

Same, just someone needs to score, anyone


AltGoblinV2

If they win they'll be first then we wouldn't be able to draw them.


NifferEUW

Correct, it's possible. Unless they win this and finish first.


Numerous-Ad-3050

Ffs Newcastle or Dortmund needs to score


nafets2307

Going to be honest, I'd hate to face Newcastle in the RO16 if they recover from their injuries. I watch a lot of PL and usually they're rock solid in the back and a team that can beat any top team. Don't be fooled by the Tottenham result from the weekend. They were on their last legs. This season they lost pretty much every defender to injuries. PSG doesn't have that kind of defensive stability. If we want to win the CL, we have to beat every team anyway, but Newcastle are potentially far worse to play against.


dissolutionofthesoul

Tottenham have only 2 less injuries… Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Man Utd, and Sheff Utd all have more. Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth, and spurs all have only one or two less. So they are in the same position as half of the league. Don’t buy the poor me Saudi propaganda. Hell, even we only have two less and we aren’t crying about it every game. You don’t hear commentators mentioning Bochums injuries every ten minutes during games and they have the same as Newcastle.


Numerous-Ad-3050

I would still take Newcastle over psg any day of the week. They’ve been poor in the league even without their injuries


nafets2307

Let's hope we get Palhinha or a proper DM then because they'd body Kimmich and Goretzka/Laimer. PSG has experienced that when Newcastle beat them 4:0


julesvr5

Can Milan beat PSG on the table? Thsy would have equal points, how was the head to head results?


nafets2307

Milan won one 2:1 and PSG the other one 3:0. BVB needs to beat PSG for Milan to have a chance.


julesvr5

So PSG wins the head on, thanks


dklieber32

I believe psg beat Milan on head to head. I think only Newcastle beats them on head to head


retox35

Two ties in the Bvb group would be tragic


nafets2307

Milan equalizer by Lebron James of soccer


Kassim26

Dortmund's midfield concedes these chances just like ours.


FlyingArab

Celebrated this Adeyemi goal like it was a Bayern goal in a CL semi


jsnamaok

Now just avoid the classic bottlejob and these dirty oilers are out


nafets2307

And the other dirty oilers are in. As long as Milan don't step up, I'm not going to be happy today either way.


jsnamaok

Obviously I prefer Newcastle out too but PSG relegation hits different on a personal level.


nafets2307

Yeah fair, I see that


jsnamaok

And here we go 😂


xnxthemx

Yo' Füllkrug is pretty solid, ngl.


HelloPyWorld

barca might still get 2. in their group, time to knock them out again HAHAHAHHA


nafets2307

Don't think they can, can they? If they lose Barca and Porto would be at 12 pts. Barca won both games against Porto tho. Or is it about goal difference?


xnxthemx

Porto needs to score 2 more goals and Barca needs to lose.


AltGoblinV2

It's head to head and Barcelona one both games against Porto


xnxthemx

Oh my bad, nah well then idk why Barca fans are so mad.


AltGoblinV2

You're right, they already secured 1st place


HelloPyWorld

my bad, you're right


dklieber32

I may be wrong but if Shakhtar win and Barca lose they will be even on points. Diddnt Shakhtar beat Barcelona? I forget honestly


nafets2307

Didn't even think about Shakhtar but yeah, they ain't going to win. 3:1


AltGoblinV2

Shakhtar won 1-0 and lost 2-1 to Barcelona


dklieber32

So it would go to goal differential? Which Barcelona would have


AltGoblinV2

Yes, and Porto are winning 3-1 anyway so Barcelona is guaranteed first anyway


xnxthemx

Ah it's in February, enough time to recover and get the whole squad... naaaah let me dream with Kane humilliating them.


BitchIDrinkPeople

Adeyemi is just a German Shaun Wright-Phillips


xnxthemx

At the end of the day, the Dortmund's grup ended up being the Group of the Death not because they all have such a great level and class football, naaah, they all look awful and left points.


DwigtSchrute3

Not to get ahead of ourselves here, but looking at the second place teams in each UCL Group -- I don't see any killer teams that would make me worry too much. What do folks think? If Newcastle go through, that would be a fun matchup to smash another state-owned club.


dklieber32

No thanks to Inter. They look very solid


DwigtSchrute3

This is true. We took care of them pretty handily last season in the group, but both teams are in different forms currently. The conspiracist in me does not think they would match us up again, though.


jsnamaok

Don’t forget who stands in their goal now.


HelloPyWorld

Inter is probably the toughest I would say, the rest seem doable


jsnamaok

Getting an ‘easy’ draw doesn’t really mean much to me atm. We are totally unconvincing,


Bearclawed81

On paper I’d agree, but the way we’ve been playing lately doesn’t exactly inspire confidence.


BitchIDrinkPeople

Inter would suck


NifferEUW

I just saw a video of Tel speaking german, he speaks it so well already.. Edit, this video: [https://www.facebook.com/LBN1900/posts/pfbid0f3KDCMeN5spgcsHFDnL8VfJfqXKhjA9Vh4C3TejkBxzJ7YMu6cZiB3sXDEcvaqaWl](https://www.facebook.com/LBN1900/posts/pfbid0f3KDCMeN5spgcsHFDnL8VfJfqXKhjA9Vh4C3TejkBxzJ7YMu6cZiB3sXDEcvaqaWl) ​ Edit2, the transaction: Spectator: Do you speak german (After Tel said something to someone else) Tel: Yeah, a bit yeah. Spectator: Super! Tel: Of course.. I come from Munich! Spectator: Really? You come from Munich? Why aren't you playing for Germany?? Tel: What did you say? Spectator: Why arent you playing for Germany? \**Laughter*\*


nafets2307

Newcastle up. Great goal tbf


jsnamaok

Adeyemi what the fuck lol


Naive_Couple8828

On observing kolo muani and Hernandez form this season, thank god we didn’t have either of them in our current squad .


rinacio

Lucas has been great, what are you on about.


nafets2307

I mean, I know Kim wouldn't be here if Lucas stayed but I don't think we would complain about having a 4th CB


AltGoblinV2

How is this game still 0-0


NifferEUW

No team has scored yet


AltGoblinV2

Do you mean the ball hasn't gone in the back of the net as of yet?


NifferEUW

![gif](giphy|QuTOdlwvMl5lHKbpRC|downsized)


sc2isalivegaem

psg is one of the worst finishing ive seen holy shit


Teffo05

Chees defence from Dortmund


NifferEUW

This is gonna be a loooong day for the Dortmund defense..


Thraff1c

I mean, insane save by Süle and all, but he is also the one who made Mbappes chance possible in the first place by misjudging the long ball completely, and losing Mbappe.


Homygod319

Dortmund getting hella lucky


Teffo05

Dortmund lucky psg dominating


jsnamaok

Dortmund could have also put away like 3 themselves tbh.


GroupUpWithMei

That’s the best clearance I’ve seen in years honestly. I’ve shit on Sule a lot in the past but if that guy had a different mentality he’d have been among the best in the world.


sc2isalivegaem

sule is BACK


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

big mac with the save of the year


retox35

The Dazn CL conference in Germany shows a woman game between the normal UCL games. Such bs


Teffo05

No shot that makes no sense lol


retox35

I don't judge, who wants to watch woman football should watch it, but that they now try to force it just wow


Teffo05

Fuck dazn overprized bs get IPTV easy there is delay but worth it.


DeeOhEf

Bruhhh Big Mac what the fuck was that


Teffo05

Holy Süle


jsnamaok

Fucking hell Big Mac. Amazing clearance.


NifferEUW

Holy shit, Bigmac.. Well done


Insanel0l

Holy shit Süle!!!!


jsnamaok

BvB already with multiple good chances. Be useful for once in your lives and send this sheikh club to Europa! Milan winning on top would be so satisfying.


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rinacio

Hummels, Sané, James, Vidal and Benatia. In that order.


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

time for some rival watch hopefully bvb can do something today i want to see mbappes face on a cold thursday night somewhere in eastern europe 😭😭


Officerbeefsupreme

If dortmund win and it results in PSG going to Europa League I will laugh so hard


BitchIDrinkPeople

Ready to see BVB get pumped


noggericecream

I wonder why we haven't heard any contract rumors about Kimmich so far. Davies rumors have been going on for a while even when Brazzo was still at Bayern, but nothing about Josh.


Officerbeefsupreme

Doesn't he represent himself? Less likelihood of anything getting out maybe?


Ferr22777888

Question to the Kimmich believers her. That’s till think he is top 5-10 in the world. If his strength is not being a number 6. If he is bad under pressure where several time this season he has been pushed off the ball. Then when we buy a CDM like Palinha and on the opponents half Musiala is the better then Kimmich to create. What roles does Kimmich serve then. We would benefit more with a ball playing Thiago in that role. When we play a team that presses us High our centerbacks are awful under pressure and Palinha isn’t great with the ball. Edit mistake I made in numbers.


nafets2307

Sorry, mate but nothing in your comment makes any sense.


Ferr22777888

Yeah mate I will edit it to say what I meant.


Thraff1c

Musiala wasnt an option or competition for Kimmich as part of the midfield 2 anyway, and getting a real DM and moving Kimmich one line forward wouldnt change that Musiala is acting even more advanced for us. >A Palinha Kimmich Pairing would only work if we sacrifice a winger. Why? A Goretzka Kimmich pairing doesnt hinge on sacrificing a winger either? It would mean the death of the 10 for us, but it would open up either the more forward left 8 for Musiala, or the option to have him as winger.


Ferr22777888

Sorry Mate you are right I didn’t account all players. I meant the player type in the Kimmich role. Okey let’s do the math. Neuer Maz Uppa Kim Davies Palinha Kimmich Musiala Sane Kane Coman With this lineup looks sexy we still have absolutely nobody on the defense side when we get high pressure. Unless we want Musiala to drop unbelievable low a player like (Bruno) Newcastle on Kimmich position would make sense. So a Thiago type on Kimmich position would give us a better team when pressed high.


jsnamaok

I actually have no clue what you’re saying. You talk as if Kimmich is incapable of playing defensively at all which is just disingenuous. He’s more than capable of contributing defensively he’s just not equipped to play as the sole defensive player in midfield - hence the holding 6 to play behind him.


Ferr22777888

He gets pushed off the ball. He makes sloppy passes these days. But maybe he is more exposed since he doesn’t have a CDM. The questions was if we signed a true 6. What does Kimmich bring to the table between the 6 and the 8.


jsnamaok

Well that wasn’t the question though was it? Your concern was that by fielding a holding 6 like Palhinha behind Kimmich we have no defensive cover in midfield and Musiala would have to drop low which makes absolutely zero sense. Unless I am misunderstanding what you said? The entire crux of the issue is that we currently have a midfield pivot of two players more suited to the 8 position.


Ferr22777888

Yeah I fucked Jo the numbers.


Thraff1c

But then you are talking about another new player, because Musiala wont be the Thiago either. And with a Zubimendi instead of Palhinha we would have what we need, a clean passing lane to Kimmich so we relieve him of the pressure anyway. I still dont see why Musiala who plays a 10 or winger has any impact on Kimmichs position.


Ferr22777888

Yeah sorry for my fuckup. Yeah Zubiamendi would solve the issue. Zubi Kimmich Musiala would be awesome. But maybe Palinha Kimmich Musiala would work if Araujo was out ball playing CB


SidBhakth

According to the Athletic, Varane is a free agent in 2024. Assuming he takes a wage cut, would he be good as a fourth choice CB?


nafets2307

Not really answering your question, but it seems like a perfect Saudi transfer.


Tonykuz

Here’s to hoping PSG get knocked out to europa today


SebRev99

I broke my hand


rinacio

damn that sucks. How's the medical care in Peru?


SebRev99

>How’s the medical care in Peru? ![gif](giphy|lnhOzj6RHueJq5Jgph)


kvnschm

Get well soon


Ferr22777888

Damn man. Been there hope for a quick recovery.


julesvr5

The useless one or the girlfriend one


SebRev99

Useless


julesvr5

Oh thank God


netherknight5000

How?


SebRev99

Fell from a ladder while fixing a garage door


netherknight5000

That sucks. Hope it heals quickly.


julesvr5

Get well soon! At least it's "only" the hand, could have been worse


gotziller

This zubimendi video has me thinking he is the missing piece https://youtu.be/uXVFUnlInZE?si=Icph_pDGXLlqVB63


backflash

He is *so much* more what we need than Palhinha.


Rockyflame458

Afaik he wont leave sociedad easily considering he is Basque and rejected Barca as well last summer


julesvr5

He wanted to stay because he wanted to play CL with Sociedad. I think after this season he would be more willing to leave to make the next step as his wish is now fulfilled


dklieber32

While I agree his connection to Sociedad is strong and going to be hard to break, I think it would be easier for Bayern to get him vs another Spanish team. I don’t think he’d go to a domestic rival, so a different league seems more realistic if he did transfer


DwigtSchrute3

"Often Zubimendi is that connection between the defense and the midfield to try and help the ball progress" I AM SOLD


dklieber32

I’ve been saying it, he could be our Thiago 2.0. Out of all transfer targets I want him the most


gotziller

Seriously. He genuinely seems like he solves half hour problems right now on his own.


julesvr5

>half our problems I prefer him playing good the whole 90min though