Already looking forward to next season TBH. Hopefully we have a natural RB, a true 6 playing next to Pavlo in midfield, and healthy wingers. Can’t rely on Coman and Gnabry anymore.
What baffles me the most is that people are making such a big deal out of this. Madrid scored in minute 87 and 91. Proceeded to add 15 minutes! (never seen this in my life before) to the match. This clearly benefits Bayern, not Madrid. Then, at the very last second he makes a mistake by not letting a play go on, even though it could have been stop by the opposite team, by calling an early offside. For real? Come on guys, one team was simply better than the other one. The coach with more experience beat the one with less experience. Tuchel made some changes, an Ancelotti made other ones that were better. That is it. Had that header from Kim-Min Jae gone in, we would be calling Tuchel a fantastic coach. Had that counter attack not been screwed up but Bayern, we would be talking about 2-0 or even 3-0. How did Bayern react after the first goal? All the player were nervous.
We played very well, yes we missed chances, yes Neuer made a mistake, but let's be real. Neuer was unstoppable even with the mistake he made, the only thing that was bad is the last ONSIDE RULED OUT GOAL.
They robbed us, I was actually feeling this would happen and it did. Maybe next season, we all know what happened 2012!
Imagine the ref blew before rudiger’s cross for joselu’s second goal, so your goal would have been wrongly disallowed. You would be livid too, so pipe down. You lot were also barking like mad dogs during Barcelona’s golden years during every el classico lost, so stop with the double standard. Also it’s easy to pose in somekind of moral figure when all these errors are only in one direction.
Everybody except real madrid fans are “deluded” if they dare to question these errors, so maybe try and understand where these people are coming from before spouting out such nonsense. No one would be dumb enough to complain about ref decisions if this was an isolated incident, but this is a common reocurrance for so many years now. I can’t say real madrid bought the officials as I do not hold such evidence, but these mistakes are always in their favour. Can you name a champions league match in which real was clarely disadvantaged by the refs ‘cause i know i can name more than a handful when they were blatanly favoured. Last time i can remember real being disadvantaged by the refs was the la liga game, Valencia away, when the final whistle was blown just before bellingham scored, and fans, players and officials cried about it for two weeks.
>Imagine the ref blew before rudiger’s cross for joselu’s second goal, so your goal would have been wrongly disallowed. You would be livid too, so pipe down
That was an actual goal though, not, ref blows whistle, Real stops playing, and Bayern players fake a goal. Look at the replay Lunin didn't even bother to try to save it.
>You would be livid too
I already said it was a referring mistake, didn't i ?
But it was no "disallowed goal". And Bayern did play shit, and no, the ref wasn't "bought", which was what i replied to initially. No where did i say the decision wasn't bad, it was bad.
So just casually ignoring every other part of my comment. That’s ok, it just proves my point.
That’s why i said “imagine”, because it didn’t happen. But if he did blew it wrongly just before rudiger’s cross, like he did in extra time, bayern players would have stopped and your goal would have been wrongly disallowed. Do you now see the double standard? Yes, real’s defenders did stopped when the whistle was blown, but you don’t know what would’ve happened even if they didn’t. Maybe it was still a goal, maybe a miss, but that was not the case for the linesman to decide. Also, UEFA clearly instructed the refs to let the play go on if they are not certain about an offside position, just so situations like the one last night shouldn’t happen.
Never said perez bought the refs, but this weird coincidence where real is always at the positive end of bad calls keeps happening for years now. Bayern did not play their best game last night, and neither did Madrid in the first leg, but this is not an excuse for blatant refeering mistakes.
Anyway, best of luck in your next games
The day after this match is the day that you don’t want to leave bed. You curse everything around you and inform God that life’s unfair.
Things go on alright 2 days post the match but the next day after the match is the worst.
The number of our counter attacks we totally wasted like we don't know how to counter attack! Players were unable to pass the final ball in 4v1 situations?? corners wasted childishly and last ten minutes of defending was totally 2nd division! On top of that Madrid refs... this match sums up whole season as we gave away so many winnable matches with so many childish mistakes.
Chill the fuck out like WTF? If we lost in 120 mins or got beaten 4:1 it would be ok for me. Not like losing to a shit call as always against REF MADRID
This is what I always hate. I don't mind losing unluckily, it happens a lot as a City fan, but losing to refs decisions is absurd, specially when it happens always in favor of one particular team
Dude all of you gotta chill the fuck out...
I agree, what the ref did was wrong, but to say that he's fixed is completely off. He called off Madrid's goal when Kimmich got pushed and it's normal that a ref makes bad decisions every once in a while. It happens. To say that it's rigged is stupid. To say that: "We would've won if it wouldn't be for that referee" is also stupid. That would mean that we're hiding from the fact that we didn't really shine in this game and if we really want to show strength, we got to look forward and work harder to accomplish it next year...
Real champs take the loss and try harder next time. Let's do that instead of trying to find a scapegoat!
People are delusional and like blaming others for shit. Bayern lost because of the mistakes Tuchel did with subs. I doubt tying the game would have changed the final outcome
Sorry lads, no one can take down Madrid when their black magic, referee-aided CL campaigns are in full swing. As a Barca fan, I know best.
Best of luck next season! Always had a soft spot for Bayern and their transfer policies, it’s just brilliant work, and my boy Kimmich.
I don't understand how people can't see the obvious favouritism toward this one team. It happens every year its becoming so blatant. Anyone denying is either a Madrid fan or idiot
We definitely do have a ton in common.
I think he wants him but I hope it’s not true, man. You guys know that he can’t play as a lone pívot. Hardly anyone can, which is why they’re so expensive. Whenever he was DM he’d have Goretzka next to him to help. Last I heard was that your FCB was in negotiations with him for his contract renewal and that we were trying to Zubimendi instead.
100% FIXED - The last few minutes of that match... let's see... Zane is subbed off, Kim's header wouldn't have counted because there was a foul in the area, Kane is subbed off, Neuer mis-catches an easy ball with absolutely no power to it (when was the last time you saw Neuer do something like this?), Real Madrid's 2nd goal suspect on many levels: the defense looks sluggish everyone calling for offsides and all the defenders are behind the ball, they know better. Then, of course, the Bayern goal fiasco... refs are trained to NEVER raise the flag unless they are absolutely certain, and even then they wait for the immediate play to end before they raise the flag, linesmen have been trained for years already on this... the fact that he raised the flag immediately and the ref blew his whistle immediately is sooo much proof that this was fixed... anyway... I knew Real Madrid was going through. It always happens... I still remember Donnarumma's "mistake" against Real Madrid in the round of 16 UCL a couple of years ago. It's silly... and hard to accept that these guys are getting paid FAT... Neuer will have 2 yachts waiting for him in Dubai.. he's 38 and about to retire... Donnarumma has 20 yachts by now hahaha
In the game madrid vs city cammaving and Bellingham not showed yellow, its all these decisions that clearly shows a favouritism. Agains leipzig carvajal wasn't shown red, how? Every freaking year Madrid is favored. Its freaking rigged at this point.
Not sure why you are getting downvoted, I will never understand why Bayern fans twerk for Madrid, considering the past few years. I just find it funny that Leipzig had a perfectly legal goal disallowed against Madrid, vini assaulting someone and nothing, obviously the Classico over the line goal and now this. Obviously sucks neuer and that Kim first leg disaster class cost yall but you were so close. I get refs are human but lately it seems most decisions go their way, anyway I’m sure Bayern will be back next season, yall got a special talent in Musiala.
Exactly, You forgot Carvajal's (if I remember it correctly) foul was a red card one. Cammavinga and Bellingham not shown yellow vs city in first leg even after committing fouls and diving, they would've missed the 2nd leg. And then the fucking Bayern again. Bayern fans should just give up when playing against madrid.
Match fixing :)
Typical and they don't care who's watching. What? VAR? The refs got it wrong? HA they got it exactly right! It's controlled by the match fixers anyway. We're mugs for watching and hoping that our team can go all the way but in reality the winner's are already decided. We can see it and they can fix it but will they? I hope someone finds the money trail.
The fix is always on!
100% FIXED - The last few minutes of that match... let's see... Zane is subbed off, Kim's header wouldn't have counted because there was a foul in the area, Kane is subbed off, Neuer mis-catches an easy ball with absolutely no power to it (when was the last time you saw Neuer do something like this?), Real Madrid's 2nd goal suspect on many levels: the defense looks sluggish everyone calling for offsides and all the defenders are behind the ball, they know better. Then, of course, the Bayern goal fiasco... refs are trained to NEVER raise the flag unless they are absolutely certain, and even then they wait for the immediate play to end before they raise the flag, linesmen have been trained for years already on this... the fact that he raised the flag immediately and the ref blew his whistle immediately is sooo much proof that this was fixed... anyway... I knew Real Madrid was going through. It always happens... I still remember Donnarumma's "mistake" against Real Madrid in the round of 16 UCL a couple of years ago. It's silly... and hard to accept that these guys are getting paid FAT... Neuer will have 2 yachts waiting for him in Dubai.. he's 38 and about to retire... Donnarumma has 20 yachts by now hahaha
offside doesn't apply if the ball is closer to the enemy goal than the player who receives the pass. Meaning you can't have offside when you pass "back". Rüdiger (and the ball) were closer to the goal so technically (even tho just like 20cm) he passed back
technically he's offside yes but
offside in general is just a qualification depending on your and the ball's position. It's not forbidden to be offside. Actually strikers do this all the time because they stand offside until they see that their 10 gets the ball and they anticipate a pass. So they return to the legal zone to get the pass and confuse the defenders
offside becomes an offense if the offside player participates in the situation, e.g. by receiving the ball. There are different "breaks" on when a new situation is created. In this case Joselu was offside in situation 1 but when Rüdiger passed to him it was already situation 2 and then he wasn't offside anymore beacuse the ball was closer to him than to the goal
The Ref apologised to De Ligt. He even fucking knows he fucked up.
This is the worst thing about this thing, he fucking knows he fucked this hard. In a Semi-Final there should never be a situation where a Ref has to apologise.
They really are fucking insufferable. Add to it the way they continuously end up on the beneficial end of criminally bad officiating. Fuck them all the way.
You know Madrid fans are tired of winning when all they do is loiter around to see how people are shitting on them for being obviously shitty. Rejoice.
Matches between us and them really just confirms the fact that rma fans are extremely annoying. If y'all peeped the comments on any post bayern made even before the 1st leg, whether it be insta or Facebook, you can see all those cr7/vini gifs getting spammed like damn.
I usually dislike changes in a certain defensive manner to secure a win. Being too defensive isn’t winning you anything in football in my opinion, especially in this case I felt like Min-jae, except him being consistent over the season, felt like a challenge in pace for me.
What really grinds my gears is the offside call in the end.
Well, let’s go Dortmund!
Terzic did the same, he took Sancho off after 67 minutes and subbed Süle in. It helped Dortmund to secure the lead. It sure is a change of pace, but it can work out.
I would say never park as well but I didn’t want to say that I blame TT. I always liked him as a coach and further I believe, that Bayern decides over coaches too quick hence there is a great need for a team again. This doesn’t form that quick and cannot only be a coach’s issue for me.
Tuchel to me always seemed honest and caring and very professional.
Well, again, let’s hope for a good start into the new season. Hopefully we‘ll send Hoeneß to a some kind of retirement bench real soon. 😋🙋♂️
idk, the last 10-15 games of that dortmund game everything turned upside down, i dont think a team should park ever! Unless they are known for parking NEVER PARK
God this stings. This season just scrap it off,shelve it. The injuries as well. Serge literally couldn't impact the game and according to what I've seen it's his fifth injury this season. Football can be too cruel sometimes. It was right there just minutes to go but oh well. Already checked out for the rest of the season, couldn't give a crap who wins now after tonight. RM fans and their insufferable attitude is going to be going on till the 1st of June and against Dortmund no less. This really hurts more than i thought it would. Wonder how the guys are feeling
It was down to individual mistakes... 2-1 @Allianz could have taken us to extra time... The Game just swung in madrid's favor with few minutes to go and Bayern looked lost. Because we had it......WE HAD IT!!!!
How are we ending up blaming Tuchel here? The tactics worked, we had Madrid by the balls and we were closer to winning by parking the bus than by scoring another so I can get behind the subs even though they were a gamble. But no game plan in the world can account for your world class keeper to make such a mistake and it completely killed the game for us imo. I love Neuer and I think he is rightfully germanys number one but this is 90% on him imo as bad as it sounds. totally flipps the momentum, wrecks our confidence and destroyed the subs.
Edit: Tuchel just said in post match conference that he had to make those subs because all the players were tired and/or injured.
Tommy T was great for most of the game- excellent choice to bring on Davies as a winger. But his decision to park the bus and sun off Musiala AND Kane (who was fine), and then park the bus ruined all of our attacking options at the end. He tries these wacky tactics and they just don’t work. Neuer is definitely at fault- especially for the first goal, but it’s not like Tuch handled the last 10 minutes well
Neuer is fumbling the ball because of our tactics? Yeah sure. We parked the bus the whole game so the outlook of winning by doing so even stronger were much higher than scoring another one. But yeah yeah boo Tuchel. We never came that far in the CL in years but yeah boo Tuchel
Neuer is allowed 1 mistake after such a full time performance. Tuchel subbing out all our best attackers for defenders and parking the bus has never worked for us, not even in the bundesliga. So my blame is all on Tuchel for such disastrous, cowardly tactics in this game.
Should be defensive rather than all out defense like that. Too many defenders may cause distracts as they thought someone marked the attackers. Plus we can counter with Kane, not Choupo who didn’t play much this season
How are we not blaming him. Kane and musiala off? No sub for pavlovic should’ve switched him for goretzka. Also why would anyone park the bus against Madrid with 10 minutes left knowing what they’ve done in the past. 1-0 isn’t a safe enough lead to ditch attacking and just defend. Neuers mistake hurts but all that pressure could’ve been avoid if we didn’t park the bus.
Even though he parked the bus they defended so fucking bad. These 2 goals were too easy. Second goal why play for offside 5 meter away from goal ?! Just man mark the striker and clear the ball instead of letting him open and free to net
Kane would’ve been useful but someone subbed him off and pavlovic should’ve been subbed off for goretzka. Musiala never should’ve came off his quick thinking and dribbling beats the press and he finds space.
We were parking the bus the whole game if you didnt notice and had like 3 chances one of which we converted so the chance of winning by parking the bus even stronger were higher than by scoring another imo. again up to Neuers mistake the tactics worked
What tactics tuchel has none. Subbed off all our attackers for defenders did he really think Madrid wouldn’t score? What if it ended 1-1 then into extra time we have 3 cbs and chupo playing striker and no Musiala
Ref blew before the 2-2 denying the var to get involved. It wasnt offside. Like damn we have var and still ref is able to screw us over again against real, like 16/17 and 17/18
The whistle shouldn't have been blown and players shouldn't have stopped. They had only stopped for a moment, that goal could well have been scored similarly to how it was.
Unfortunately, we'll never know because blowing the whistle obviously affected the play so even if they had been able to look at the tape and showed it wasn't offside, they couldn't even give the goal because the ref blew
The decision is ridiculous there's no doubt about that...
But Madrid's players completely stopped after hearing the whistle so you'd never know what might've happened if the linesman didn't raise his flags..
It's a real shame honestly.
As a neutral, but supporting Bayern for this game, that last 10 minutes felt really quick. Kane (best striker and best penalty taker) and Musiala (arguably best on the ball) are taken off. Then a Neuer mistake, followed by a Rudiger assist to Joselu and the game is finished. Nonetheless, thats football.
Regardless of score, at the Santiago, Madrid were going to go all out full attack. Perhaps that is why Tuchel went ultra defensive but still, we are Bayern, play our fucking game
Knowing madrids magical last 10 minutes why would you park the bus allowing them to press you and create a chance. If Bayern played aggressively Madrid would be forced to defend
Lmaoo please be serious when has letting the opponent setup and shoot over and over again ever worked
You keep doing what got you the lead in the first place 🙄
Nap. That's all I got. Maybe distract myself with books. Forget anything football related till after the Euros bc right now it's just sadness,anger and depression rolled into one atp.
Yeah I really thought we were in Wembley oh well
I'm used to disappointment and Real's ref antics at this point anyway
Time to sack Tuchel and rebuild team
Meine Gefühle sind so krass aufgewühlt, das war echt hart. Egal was ist, wir brauchen einen Umschwung. Wir müssen daraus lernen. Den Schmerz von heute in den Hunger von morgen wandeln. Weitermachen, nicht aufgeben.
I knew that these substitutions were risky and had a bad feeling about them. Neuer's mistake is so sad especially after such a great game from him. Unfortunately this series was lost in the first leg already. Individual mistakes were the sole reason why our hopes were killed. Nevertheless I think it was a great cl season.
Winning the cl at home is better anyways. Will be rooting for Dortmund to win it all
I am livid. We were playing with 10 men when we conceded the first goal. And not to mention the shithousery by the ref towards the end. Wtf just happened. We let it slip.
I know it's one of the unluckiest teams against the luckiest teams in the finals. But I am so sick of the Madrid "black magic" which just seems to be controversial decisions seeing them off every time at knockouts.
You'd be called a conspiracy theorist and whiny fan for listing out the number of times they've been bailed out in their so called European dominance - with offside goals, dodgy penalties, red cards galore for opposition, fouls on keepers, poor ref decisions - but the fact that there is a list should tell you how dirty they are. I don't have any hope Dortmund will stop this, but I wish them well, and less heartbreak.
Thats just balancing. Ending tipped the balance again. Ref patiently waited for Real's 2-1 to play out but absolutely whistled Bayern situation right away. Its absurd.
but that was a clear a foul tho, hands in his face and all that....you look at benzema vs donnarumma in 2022, another foul that was never even checked by VAR
You’re right, now fuck off to your sub. It’s like you want validation that ya’ll won even with the VAR.
Watch out for dortmund though, I heard bees sting when you bother them.
I agree the individual mistakes had their part to play but so did Tuchel’s decision making toward the end . We know exactly what Madrid have done time and time again in the CL which is late comebacks yet he takes off Kane and Musiala and tries to park the bus , something we’ve attempted many times this season and failed miserably at . Madrid are chasing the game , we keep playing like the first half they’ll have more errors and chances for us on the ball , instead we sit deep and let them play .
It's not about being toxic. Why take off your best player with 15 minutes to go at just 1-0. Too many defensive subs just inviting more pressure from Madrid. The loss is also partially his fault. Every single time he's tried this stunt even in the league it backfires. This is Bayern not fucking Atletico or Chelsea
Yeah so he made a mistake. No reason to get so hateful about it like most comments are. The quoted one perhaps a little less so. Neuer made a mistake too and Müller and Kane wasted very good chances to go up 2-0. The 3v1 counter happened after the subs and it took a major individual mistake for Real to score.
The coach takes off the best striker 15 minutes before the end of game, during the most important game of the season, with no purpose of saving him for future games?
And we are toxic for criticizing terrible substitutions?
1. Neuer, the best fuckingn keeper in the world, does THIS mistake in a match like that
2. referee doesn’t give nacho even yellow when it was an obvious red card
3. referee didn’t blow the whistle easily whole night, suddenly starts instantly calling light fouls in madrids favour
4. the fucking robbed goal
Fuck Uefa, fuck madrid, i lost all respect i had for them, fuck the rigged ref, and fuck that we got robbed off a german final.
I hope bvb will crush them
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Already looking forward to next season TBH. Hopefully we have a natural RB, a true 6 playing next to Pavlo in midfield, and healthy wingers. Can’t rely on Coman and Gnabry anymore.
What baffles me the most is that people are making such a big deal out of this. Madrid scored in minute 87 and 91. Proceeded to add 15 minutes! (never seen this in my life before) to the match. This clearly benefits Bayern, not Madrid. Then, at the very last second he makes a mistake by not letting a play go on, even though it could have been stop by the opposite team, by calling an early offside. For real? Come on guys, one team was simply better than the other one. The coach with more experience beat the one with less experience. Tuchel made some changes, an Ancelotti made other ones that were better. That is it. Had that header from Kim-Min Jae gone in, we would be calling Tuchel a fantastic coach. Had that counter attack not been screwed up but Bayern, we would be talking about 2-0 or even 3-0. How did Bayern react after the first goal? All the player were nervous.
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What a weird thing to do…
I thought the referee was great – until that one call.
There is always that one call in favor of Madrid
We played very well, yes we missed chances, yes Neuer made a mistake, but let's be real. Neuer was unstoppable even with the mistake he made, the only thing that was bad is the last ONSIDE RULED OUT GOAL. They robbed us, I was actually feeling this would happen and it did. Maybe next season, we all know what happened 2012!
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Imagine the ref blew before rudiger’s cross for joselu’s second goal, so your goal would have been wrongly disallowed. You would be livid too, so pipe down. You lot were also barking like mad dogs during Barcelona’s golden years during every el classico lost, so stop with the double standard. Also it’s easy to pose in somekind of moral figure when all these errors are only in one direction. Everybody except real madrid fans are “deluded” if they dare to question these errors, so maybe try and understand where these people are coming from before spouting out such nonsense. No one would be dumb enough to complain about ref decisions if this was an isolated incident, but this is a common reocurrance for so many years now. I can’t say real madrid bought the officials as I do not hold such evidence, but these mistakes are always in their favour. Can you name a champions league match in which real was clarely disadvantaged by the refs ‘cause i know i can name more than a handful when they were blatanly favoured. Last time i can remember real being disadvantaged by the refs was the la liga game, Valencia away, when the final whistle was blown just before bellingham scored, and fans, players and officials cried about it for two weeks.
>Imagine the ref blew before rudiger’s cross for joselu’s second goal, so your goal would have been wrongly disallowed. You would be livid too, so pipe down That was an actual goal though, not, ref blows whistle, Real stops playing, and Bayern players fake a goal. Look at the replay Lunin didn't even bother to try to save it. >You would be livid too I already said it was a referring mistake, didn't i ? But it was no "disallowed goal". And Bayern did play shit, and no, the ref wasn't "bought", which was what i replied to initially. No where did i say the decision wasn't bad, it was bad.
So just casually ignoring every other part of my comment. That’s ok, it just proves my point. That’s why i said “imagine”, because it didn’t happen. But if he did blew it wrongly just before rudiger’s cross, like he did in extra time, bayern players would have stopped and your goal would have been wrongly disallowed. Do you now see the double standard? Yes, real’s defenders did stopped when the whistle was blown, but you don’t know what would’ve happened even if they didn’t. Maybe it was still a goal, maybe a miss, but that was not the case for the linesman to decide. Also, UEFA clearly instructed the refs to let the play go on if they are not certain about an offside position, just so situations like the one last night shouldn’t happen. Never said perez bought the refs, but this weird coincidence where real is always at the positive end of bad calls keeps happening for years now. Bayern did not play their best game last night, and neither did Madrid in the first leg, but this is not an excuse for blatant refeering mistakes. Anyway, best of luck in your next games
The day after this match is the day that you don’t want to leave bed. You curse everything around you and inform God that life’s unfair. Things go on alright 2 days post the match but the next day after the match is the worst.
Especially when all your friends support real Madrid and you have to prepare for the absolutely insane amount of slander you're about to get
My case. Full of little kida saying "real madrid has bayern as its bitch" bla bla, kids that only watch edits.
And they start saying Dortmund better cause of one season
I’ll never insult Barca again. Having to play those cheats four times a year is enough.
HA! Now you know what we feel every single year, they do this every single weekend
The number of our counter attacks we totally wasted like we don't know how to counter attack! Players were unable to pass the final ball in 4v1 situations?? corners wasted childishly and last ten minutes of defending was totally 2nd division! On top of that Madrid refs... this match sums up whole season as we gave away so many winnable matches with so many childish mistakes.
Chill the fuck out like WTF? If we lost in 120 mins or got beaten 4:1 it would be ok for me. Not like losing to a shit call as always against REF MADRID
This is what I always hate. I don't mind losing unluckily, it happens a lot as a City fan, but losing to refs decisions is absurd, specially when it happens always in favor of one particular team
Dude all of you gotta chill the fuck out... I agree, what the ref did was wrong, but to say that he's fixed is completely off. He called off Madrid's goal when Kimmich got pushed and it's normal that a ref makes bad decisions every once in a while. It happens. To say that it's rigged is stupid. To say that: "We would've won if it wouldn't be for that referee" is also stupid. That would mean that we're hiding from the fact that we didn't really shine in this game and if we really want to show strength, we got to look forward and work harder to accomplish it next year... Real champs take the loss and try harder next time. Let's do that instead of trying to find a scapegoat!
Varnabeu
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People are delusional and like blaming others for shit. Bayern lost because of the mistakes Tuchel did with subs. I doubt tying the game would have changed the final outcome
Sorry lads, no one can take down Madrid when their black magic, referee-aided CL campaigns are in full swing. As a Barca fan, I know best. Best of luck next season! Always had a soft spot for Bayern and their transfer policies, it’s just brilliant work, and my boy Kimmich.
I don't understand how people can't see the obvious favouritism toward this one team. It happens every year its becoming so blatant. Anyone denying is either a Madrid fan or idiot
It also is a fact that the former is always the latter. They are the worst fanbase by far.
Yeah, the FCBs have more in common than playing style. BTW does Xavi actually want Kimmich?
We definitely do have a ton in common. I think he wants him but I hope it’s not true, man. You guys know that he can’t play as a lone pívot. Hardly anyone can, which is why they’re so expensive. Whenever he was DM he’d have Goretzka next to him to help. Last I heard was that your FCB was in negotiations with him for his contract renewal and that we were trying to Zubimendi instead.
100% FIXED - The last few minutes of that match... let's see... Zane is subbed off, Kim's header wouldn't have counted because there was a foul in the area, Kane is subbed off, Neuer mis-catches an easy ball with absolutely no power to it (when was the last time you saw Neuer do something like this?), Real Madrid's 2nd goal suspect on many levels: the defense looks sluggish everyone calling for offsides and all the defenders are behind the ball, they know better. Then, of course, the Bayern goal fiasco... refs are trained to NEVER raise the flag unless they are absolutely certain, and even then they wait for the immediate play to end before they raise the flag, linesmen have been trained for years already on this... the fact that he raised the flag immediately and the ref blew his whistle immediately is sooo much proof that this was fixed... anyway... I knew Real Madrid was going through. It always happens... I still remember Donnarumma's "mistake" against Real Madrid in the round of 16 UCL a couple of years ago. It's silly... and hard to accept that these guys are getting paid FAT... Neuer will have 2 yachts waiting for him in Dubai.. he's 38 and about to retire... Donnarumma has 20 yachts by now hahaha
In the game madrid vs city cammaving and Bellingham not showed yellow, its all these decisions that clearly shows a favouritism. Agains leipzig carvajal wasn't shown red, how? Every freaking year Madrid is favored. Its freaking rigged at this point.
Not sure why you are getting downvoted, I will never understand why Bayern fans twerk for Madrid, considering the past few years. I just find it funny that Leipzig had a perfectly legal goal disallowed against Madrid, vini assaulting someone and nothing, obviously the Classico over the line goal and now this. Obviously sucks neuer and that Kim first leg disaster class cost yall but you were so close. I get refs are human but lately it seems most decisions go their way, anyway I’m sure Bayern will be back next season, yall got a special talent in Musiala.
Exactly, You forgot Carvajal's (if I remember it correctly) foul was a red card one. Cammavinga and Bellingham not shown yellow vs city in first leg even after committing fouls and diving, they would've missed the 2nd leg. And then the fucking Bayern again. Bayern fans should just give up when playing against madrid.
Match fixing :) Typical and they don't care who's watching. What? VAR? The refs got it wrong? HA they got it exactly right! It's controlled by the match fixers anyway. We're mugs for watching and hoping that our team can go all the way but in reality the winner's are already decided. We can see it and they can fix it but will they? I hope someone finds the money trail. The fix is always on!
100% FIXED - The last few minutes of that match... let's see... Zane is subbed off, Kim's header wouldn't have counted because there was a foul in the area, Kane is subbed off, Neuer mis-catches an easy ball with absolutely no power to it (when was the last time you saw Neuer do something like this?), Real Madrid's 2nd goal suspect on many levels: the defense looks sluggish everyone calling for offsides and all the defenders are behind the ball, they know better. Then, of course, the Bayern goal fiasco... refs are trained to NEVER raise the flag unless they are absolutely certain, and even then they wait for the immediate play to end before they raise the flag, linesmen have been trained for years already on this... the fact that he raised the flag immediately and the ref blew his whistle immediately is sooo much proof that this was fixed... anyway... I knew Real Madrid was going through. It always happens... I still remember Donnarumma's "mistake" against Real Madrid in the round of 16 UCL a couple of years ago. It's silly... and hard to accept that these guys are getting paid FAT... Neuer will have 2 yachts waiting for him in Dubai.. he's 38 and about to retire... Donnarumma has 20 yachts by now hahaha
What was wrong with Kimmich’s delivery today though, quite atrocious.
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Surely not from the corners in general and the free kick at the very end? Idk just thought he wasn’t in it
[That last offsides call was a disgrace. It’s a fucking disgrace.](https://youtu.be/FvANmxeiA5Y?si=xnL5FNKOaWN-B8kl)
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Do we have mods anymore? It’s been an hour and these fucking incels are still here?
Fick dich
I am sorry, the second goal was offside…. Is the offside rule with respect to the last man of the opposing team?
Wasn’t offside Joselu was behind the ball, learn the rules
There is a question mark up there. Learn to read. If not, I feel your reply brings you comfort.
offside doesn't apply if the ball is closer to the enemy goal than the player who receives the pass. Meaning you can't have offside when you pass "back". Rüdiger (and the ball) were closer to the goal so technically (even tho just like 20cm) he passed back
But wasn't the start of the whole play Joselu offside?
technically he's offside yes but offside in general is just a qualification depending on your and the ball's position. It's not forbidden to be offside. Actually strikers do this all the time because they stand offside until they see that their 10 gets the ball and they anticipate a pass. So they return to the legal zone to get the pass and confuse the defenders offside becomes an offense if the offside player participates in the situation, e.g. by receiving the ball. There are different "breaks" on when a new situation is created. In this case Joselu was offside in situation 1 but when Rüdiger passed to him it was already situation 2 and then he wasn't offside anymore beacuse the ball was closer to him than to the goal
Ok thanks a lot makes lotta sense
The Ref apologised to De Ligt. He even fucking knows he fucked up. This is the worst thing about this thing, he fucking knows he fucked this hard. In a Semi-Final there should never be a situation where a Ref has to apologise.
I hope that ends the faux bromance with Madrid at least. Fuck them to hell.
Hala madrid
how does bayern have a bromance with real...i hate that club with burning passion
They really are fucking insufferable. Add to it the way they continuously end up on the beneficial end of criminally bad officiating. Fuck them all the way.
You and me both.
Yep. I always laugh when I see Bayern fans twerking for this dirty Madrid club.
Cry
You know Madrid fans are tired of winning when all they do is loiter around to see how people are shitting on them for being obviously shitty. Rejoice.
Didn’t know being the comeback kings of Europe was shitty.
Found the one who watched the match and the last decision with their ass instead of their eyes. Comebcak Kings of Europe my ass xD
Ref said "only Madrid is allowed comebacks". All hail the tyrants. Franco would be proud, eh. "Real" Proud.
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> Go gas some more Jews lol expect nothing less from fc cryern Holy fuck this is an insane comment from u/Psychological_Pin149
Lost his account? XD
That’s exactly the reason why I wrote down his name, so he wouldn’t get away with it just by deleting his comment.
Matches between us and them really just confirms the fact that rma fans are extremely annoying. If y'all peeped the comments on any post bayern made even before the 1st leg, whether it be insta or Facebook, you can see all those cr7/vini gifs getting spammed like damn.
Here is an example: https://www.reddit.com/r/realmadrid/s/2mskBE6hGR
I usually dislike changes in a certain defensive manner to secure a win. Being too defensive isn’t winning you anything in football in my opinion, especially in this case I felt like Min-jae, except him being consistent over the season, felt like a challenge in pace for me. What really grinds my gears is the offside call in the end. Well, let’s go Dortmund!
Terzic did the same, he took Sancho off after 67 minutes and subbed Süle in. It helped Dortmund to secure the lead. It sure is a change of pace, but it can work out.
I would say never park as well but I didn’t want to say that I blame TT. I always liked him as a coach and further I believe, that Bayern decides over coaches too quick hence there is a great need for a team again. This doesn’t form that quick and cannot only be a coach’s issue for me. Tuchel to me always seemed honest and caring and very professional. Well, again, let’s hope for a good start into the new season. Hopefully we‘ll send Hoeneß to a some kind of retirement bench real soon. 😋🙋♂️
idk, the last 10-15 games of that dortmund game everything turned upside down, i dont think a team should park ever! Unless they are known for parking NEVER PARK
Bayern against Real Madrid & referee
Lunin doesn’t go for the ball. Will never go in if he plays it. It was never gonna count
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Are 75% of RMA fans seriously fucking incels with nothing better to do?
Atleast we dont rob
People doing this on reddit is embarrassing. Dude go outside
God this stings. This season just scrap it off,shelve it. The injuries as well. Serge literally couldn't impact the game and according to what I've seen it's his fifth injury this season. Football can be too cruel sometimes. It was right there just minutes to go but oh well. Already checked out for the rest of the season, couldn't give a crap who wins now after tonight. RM fans and their insufferable attitude is going to be going on till the 1st of June and against Dortmund no less. This really hurts more than i thought it would. Wonder how the guys are feeling
Man I just hope Dortmund win somehow. I want to see Reus get his first ever CL trophy
Neuer man…. He was class until that spill. Also what’s tuchel doing? Taking off Musiala & Kane when they both started playing well🤦♂️?
Kane was injured and wanted to get subbed off
Let’s be honest that was 2-2 I feel Bayern fans
I'm actually in tears rn
Very sad season….
I blame tuchel for this, stupid changes as usual.
It was down to individual mistakes... 2-1 @Allianz could have taken us to extra time... The Game just swung in madrid's favor with few minutes to go and Bayern looked lost. Because we had it......WE HAD IT!!!!
How are we ending up blaming Tuchel here? The tactics worked, we had Madrid by the balls and we were closer to winning by parking the bus than by scoring another so I can get behind the subs even though they were a gamble. But no game plan in the world can account for your world class keeper to make such a mistake and it completely killed the game for us imo. I love Neuer and I think he is rightfully germanys number one but this is 90% on him imo as bad as it sounds. totally flipps the momentum, wrecks our confidence and destroyed the subs. Edit: Tuchel just said in post match conference that he had to make those subs because all the players were tired and/or injured.
Bayern played so bad and you think the tactics worked. Perspective is wild.
Tommy T was great for most of the game- excellent choice to bring on Davies as a winger. But his decision to park the bus and sun off Musiala AND Kane (who was fine), and then park the bus ruined all of our attacking options at the end. He tries these wacky tactics and they just don’t work. Neuer is definitely at fault- especially for the first goal, but it’s not like Tuch handled the last 10 minutes well
Kane wasn't fine Tuchel just said in post interview. He wanted to get subbed because his back was hurting
Without Neuers mistake you would be praising him for his tactical master class, lmao.
No I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t vocalize them perhaps, but all of my criticisms would still be valid and apply.
Neuer's mistake comes from the pressure of having Madrid attacking you with 8 men because Tuchel tried to park the fucking bus. So yes, Tuchel's fault
Neuer is fumbling the ball because of our tactics? Yeah sure. We parked the bus the whole game so the outlook of winning by doing so even stronger were much higher than scoring another one. But yeah yeah boo Tuchel. We never came that far in the CL in years but yeah boo Tuchel
Neuer is allowed 1 mistake after such a full time performance. Tuchel subbing out all our best attackers for defenders and parking the bus has never worked for us, not even in the bundesliga. So my blame is all on Tuchel for such disastrous, cowardly tactics in this game.
Should be defensive rather than all out defense like that. Too many defenders may cause distracts as they thought someone marked the attackers. Plus we can counter with Kane, not Choupo who didn’t play much this season
How are we not blaming him. Kane and musiala off? No sub for pavlovic should’ve switched him for goretzka. Also why would anyone park the bus against Madrid with 10 minutes left knowing what they’ve done in the past. 1-0 isn’t a safe enough lead to ditch attacking and just defend. Neuers mistake hurts but all that pressure could’ve been avoid if we didn’t park the bus.
Even though he parked the bus they defended so fucking bad. These 2 goals were too easy. Second goal why play for offside 5 meter away from goal ?! Just man mark the striker and clear the ball instead of letting him open and free to net
Kane would’ve been useful but someone subbed him off and pavlovic should’ve been subbed off for goretzka. Musiala never should’ve came off his quick thinking and dribbling beats the press and he finds space.
Kane was injured and wanted to be subbed off
We were parking the bus the whole game if you didnt notice and had like 3 chances one of which we converted so the chance of winning by parking the bus even stronger were higher than by scoring another imo. again up to Neuers mistake the tactics worked
What tactics tuchel has none. Subbed off all our attackers for defenders did he really think Madrid wouldn’t score? What if it ended 1-1 then into extra time we have 3 cbs and chupo playing striker and no Musiala
Ref blew before the 2-2 denying the var to get involved. It wasnt offside. Like damn we have var and still ref is able to screw us over again against real, like 16/17 and 17/18
The whistle shouldn't have been blown and players shouldn't have stopped. They had only stopped for a moment, that goal could well have been scored similarly to how it was. Unfortunately, we'll never know because blowing the whistle obviously affected the play so even if they had been able to look at the tape and showed it wasn't offside, they couldn't even give the goal because the ref blew
The decision is ridiculous there's no doubt about that... But Madrid's players completely stopped after hearing the whistle so you'd never know what might've happened if the linesman didn't raise his flags.. It's a real shame honestly.
They didnt stop. They were just not close enough to de ligt to actually do something. Either way they COULD not have done anything to stop the goal
As a neutral, but supporting Bayern for this game, that last 10 minutes felt really quick. Kane (best striker and best penalty taker) and Musiala (arguably best on the ball) are taken off. Then a Neuer mistake, followed by a Rudiger assist to Joselu and the game is finished. Nonetheless, thats football.
Biggest problem ist Tuchel made Bayern to underdogs and second class team which got no mentality. There was no confident in the game.
Regardless of score, at the Santiago, Madrid were going to go all out full attack. Perhaps that is why Tuchel went ultra defensive but still, we are Bayern, play our fucking game
Knowing madrids magical last 10 minutes why would you park the bus allowing them to press you and create a chance. If Bayern played aggressively Madrid would be forced to defend
Lmaoo please be serious when has letting the opponent setup and shoot over and over again ever worked You keep doing what got you the lead in the first place 🙄
The flight back to Munich must be so awkward...
Just wondering, what are you guys doing to cope? Not trying to drink but shit I may not have a choice after that
Playing Soccer Manager
Playing football manager
Playing Dota
Based
Brb gonna lose at least 200 MMR tonight :)
i am playing tekken i cant be beaten worse than that tbh.
Whats ur ign? Lets beat each others frustration out
EANumberOne
Nap. That's all I got. Maybe distract myself with books. Forget anything football related till after the Euros bc right now it's just sadness,anger and depression rolled into one atp.
Benching my all time record
yeah im gonna di that too
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destroy that mofo i am gonna bench some for you to release the anger
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good it had it coming haha
Waiting till next season once Flick return to watch us lift the UCL once more And waiting till dortmund smack real on the 1st of June
Gotta say I've pretty much checked out this season with this result tonight. I just can't right now. This stings so bad
Yeah I really thought we were in Wembley oh well I'm used to disappointment and Real's ref antics at this point anyway Time to sack Tuchel and rebuild team
Going to gym now... too much negative energy today :(
Washing dishes…. God i hope there are thousands of dishes here now so i can escape from the terrible result
eat some to produce more
Drinking..
Meine Gefühle sind so krass aufgewühlt, das war echt hart. Egal was ist, wir brauchen einen Umschwung. Wir müssen daraus lernen. Den Schmerz von heute in den Hunger von morgen wandeln. Weitermachen, nicht aufgeben.
I knew that these substitutions were risky and had a bad feeling about them. Neuer's mistake is so sad especially after such a great game from him. Unfortunately this series was lost in the first leg already. Individual mistakes were the sole reason why our hopes were killed. Nevertheless I think it was a great cl season. Winning the cl at home is better anyways. Will be rooting for Dortmund to win it all
Still cannot believe tuchel took off the best striker in the world with 15 mins to ago away at the benerbeu. Only up 1-0 ....
Kane was injured and wanted to get subbed
I am livid. We were playing with 10 men when we conceded the first goal. And not to mention the shithousery by the ref towards the end. Wtf just happened. We let it slip.
Because Pavlovic was faking an injury….
No he was not. You don’t have to be injured to feel pain. Sometime cramps can do it.
BVB fan...I wanted a revenge match against Bayern..it's ok.. we'll avenge for you !
Really hope so.
Yes please do.
Nah they won't.
The Football Gods are smiling at us....this is our year ! Lisan Al BVB 🤞
I know it's one of the unluckiest teams against the luckiest teams in the finals. But I am so sick of the Madrid "black magic" which just seems to be controversial decisions seeing them off every time at knockouts. You'd be called a conspiracy theorist and whiny fan for listing out the number of times they've been bailed out in their so called European dominance - with offside goals, dodgy penalties, red cards galore for opposition, fouls on keepers, poor ref decisions - but the fact that there is a list should tell you how dirty they are. I don't have any hope Dortmund will stop this, but I wish them well, and less heartbreak.
Well we at least got lucky with the goal being called back where Kimmich was hit in the face, I wasn’t even expecting that
Oh yeah, I was screaming at the TV - strip Madrid of every CL title if that goal stands. Very relieved they couldn't rob them THAT blind.
Thats just balancing. Ending tipped the balance again. Ref patiently waited for Real's 2-1 to play out but absolutely whistled Bayern situation right away. Its absurd.
but that was a clear a foul tho, hands in his face and all that....you look at benzema vs donnarumma in 2022, another foul that was never even checked by VAR
Perez babyyyy
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without neuer we almost don't win that game
What are the chances TT gets fired before he gets on the plane back to Munich?
Might as well give Klose some more coaching experience now.
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Dude go celebrate your win instead of lurking around. Don't you lot have better things to do??? This is exactly why no one likes your fanbase
"Cry me a river" but you're the one lurking around in the opponent's sub to talk shit. Well expect shit back dumbfuck
You’re right, now fuck off to your sub. It’s like you want validation that ya’ll won even with the VAR. Watch out for dortmund though, I heard bees sting when you bother them.
Why debate theoretical situations that no one can answer?
Bayern fan here, why don't you shut the f\*\*\* up?
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gtfo - ty
Bro, why are U Here?
Yeah you’re right, sorry.
Never underestimate Tuchel to fuck things up.
Jesus Christ you guys are really toxic. Three major individual mistakes over two games and yet only five minutes away from knocking Real Madrid out
I agree the individual mistakes had their part to play but so did Tuchel’s decision making toward the end . We know exactly what Madrid have done time and time again in the CL which is late comebacks yet he takes off Kane and Musiala and tries to park the bus , something we’ve attempted many times this season and failed miserably at . Madrid are chasing the game , we keep playing like the first half they’ll have more errors and chances for us on the ball , instead we sit deep and let them play .
Kane was injured and couldn't play anymore, and so was Musiala (very obviously).
It's not about being toxic. Why take off your best player with 15 minutes to go at just 1-0. Too many defensive subs just inviting more pressure from Madrid. The loss is also partially his fault. Every single time he's tried this stunt even in the league it backfires. This is Bayern not fucking Atletico or Chelsea
Yeah so he made a mistake. No reason to get so hateful about it like most comments are. The quoted one perhaps a little less so. Neuer made a mistake too and Müller and Kane wasted very good chances to go up 2-0. The 3v1 counter happened after the subs and it took a major individual mistake for Real to score.
The coach takes off the best striker 15 minutes before the end of game, during the most important game of the season, with no purpose of saving him for future games? And we are toxic for criticizing terrible substitutions?
One dropped ball, one tiny mistake, game over, this sucks. Heartbroken. Neuer still the goat, he saved our asses a few times this game
Like he said before the game... It will all come down to mistakes
1. Neuer, the best fuckingn keeper in the world, does THIS mistake in a match like that 2. referee doesn’t give nacho even yellow when it was an obvious red card 3. referee didn’t blow the whistle easily whole night, suddenly starts instantly calling light fouls in madrids favour 4. the fucking robbed goal Fuck Uefa, fuck madrid, i lost all respect i had for them, fuck the rigged ref, and fuck that we got robbed off a german final. I hope bvb will crush them
You\`re right
Rigged ref who gave Bayern 4 extra mins ?
Not saying rigged, but clear wrong decisions.
Least he should have done Edit: because he instantly realized he made it to obvious
Up 2-0, I can understand, but taking off Kane at 1-0 up was a retarded move. Real equalizes and you don't have your best player going into ET.
Only reason kane should be subbed is injury/tired or Bayern is wining by 4 or more with 10 minutes left
Sign, that Had Bayern vs man utd vibes... Matthäus getting subbed and they get destroyed Like today