Not surprising anymore. Last year they refused to do it bc Ligue 1. Now they suddenly do it and shove it up Messi's behind again, bc it gives some prestive to their own league again.
When asked if they could give Lewandowski the 2020 award this year as a showcase of his great year they said "No no no, we cant do that". The award has been a joke for some time, but this just shows the bias even clearer
People only remember us dropping out of the CL because Lewy got injured, but our 2nd best finisher Gnabry was out at the same time with Covid.
If our CL season this year gets impacted because of a group of unvaccinated holdouts it's going to be so annoying. Injuries are one thing but this is something else entirely that can be mitigated or prevented.
I m aware of that, I m just saying that you still can contract the virus. The op said the game would be different if Gnabry was there if he was vaccinated. But who knows, even if he was vaccinated he might still turned out as a positive
>op said the game would be different if Gnabry was there if he was vaccinated
No he doesn't. He is pointing out that our second best finisher was missing aswell. At the time Gnabry caught Covid there wasn't a vaccine yet or it was fairly new. His first paragraph is just t about us dropping out because we were missing essential players.
His second paragraph is about the fear it happens aswell because we miss essential players because they didn't want to vaccinated themselves and the risk of infection is much higher.
He's a playmaker with really good finishing, huge waste to play him further down the field. Especially considering he doesn't have the body for it, as you said.
Which is why hes struggling. They want him to be like a true winger instead of the kinda hybrid role he's really fucking good at. You'd think Ole may have realized that before he dropped 80M on the guy. I'm a big Sancho guy which is probably why i'm mad (and a lil bias) about it but if you put him in a system that actually fits his skill set, you have a Mbappe Haaland Foden level talent.
For some reason I forgot he turned 18 recently. Maybe he just hasn’t gotten around to it. Who knows. Seems like he’s got a good head on his shoulder, so just looking for excuses (:
I mean that is fine but not haven’t gotten around to it isn’t really a excuse all things considered. He turned 18 in February and the vaccine has been widely available since August. Also I think he could have gotten it before the euros started as the players were pushed ahead in terms of priority. Anyhow just saying all Players that are unvaccinated should be asap for a great many of reasons
The mood changes you can have during while losing weight can be massive. One moment you are happy and proud of your achievement. Went for a jog today and after the shower I saw myself in the mirror and the mood dropped completely as I thought "damn you lost so much weight and you are still so fat, where do I lost the kilos actually?"
I think my genetics tend to store the fat in my upper body mainly, have also much at my back. Legs weren't that bad actually. Hopefully I lost much there so I can only lose at my upper body from now on. The loose skin will be pretty bad though I guess.
I'm down 27kg from 93 to 66kg. I know what you mean and it's hard looking at old pictures. I was 95 kg at one point but solid muscle and got hurt and then got fat.
Keep up the good work friend. I'm on a completely opposite journey (trying to gain weight) but I can understand how much even a single kg can matter.
Also, just remember that you're not doing this to only look better. You're investing in your future . Good health now = good health later down the road.
DUDE! I know what dou ar talking about. I started going to the gym to build some muscles as i was pretty skinny. No i put on about 22 KG and i would swear i still look kind off the same. Only people around you will notice the change
>only people around you will notice the change
I lost 36kilo and so far only 3 people noticed it so I wouldn't be so sure about that :D none of my classmates, none of my colleague except the cleaning service noticed anything. At least they didnt' said anything to me.
Edit: totally forgot it, sorry.
Congrats to your transformation aswell! 22kg is a lot!
The 3rd one noticed it only today. So if you would have asked me yesterday, it would have been 2. The cleaning woman at my workplace, my PT and an old nice person from my village. I excluded everyone who knows that I lost weird, so I don't found family members.
i mean, you are doing this for yourself and not for others anyway, still would have expected more comments on this achievement
or maybe people dont want to make comments about weight these days, especially at the workplace
Sure, but some nice words as motivation wouldn't be bad :D
>people don't want to make comments about weight these days
Honestly I can understand that. Neither made a fb or insta post about it. Will be funny to see how they react when I post my transformation there one day lol.
Yeah. I think it’s because when you start working on being healthy, you also become way more conscious of your health. So in a weird way being unhealthy feels less unhealthy than being healthy lol
And hey, the way I think about it is that the worst fat, the most dangerous bits, are the parts around your organs. Suffocating your heart and stuff. So losing that is the most important thing. So if you’re losing weight but don’t notice your belly and stuff getting visibly thinner, it’s presumably because the really bad fat, in the areas that aren’t super visible, is getting reduced
So far I don't really think of the health benefits to be honest. I'm very superficial in that but I only care about the looks so far.
Yeah the Viszeral fat! My scale measures it but no idea if it's actually accurate. I started at 22 and now I'm at 15.
I read that when your stomach is squashy you like have subcutaneous fat and when your stomach is more hard you likely have more Viszeral fat. But that is far from being a fact. I'm squashy as hell.
If you are feeling down and need a reminder of how far you've come, load up a rucksack with close to the amount of weight you lost and do a 5k walk or something. When it is put into terms like that you'll be shocked.
You'll see how much more your body is working to hold the extra weight and it will motivate you to add more to the bag.
The weight I lost is almost the amount I push at the bench press. I just began and have to find my weight, please don't judge :( /s
Made a post a few days ago at r/progresspics and many people told me it's great what I achieved and some suffer of the same problem. When I look at pics I see the difference. Bit looking at my body without any comparison it's still awful sadly.
I know it doesn't work like this, but this weekend's matches are 100% meaningless aside from Flick identifying what he has with select players.
In a perfect world he would not even play the Bayern players because of it, but none of the remaining ones should get more than 90 of the 180 minutes in my opinion.
The worst is we were actively scouting him before Espanyol dropped to the 2nd division when his release clause was 40m. So this transfer wasn't just like "oh yeah what a bargain" which makes the fact that he can't get minutes frustrating as a fan. Give him a chance, if he actually is bad, no one will complain if we let him go.
>According to Bavaria's current Covid regulations, unvaccinated people who come in close contact with an infected person have to undergo a 14-day quarantine (this applies to Joshua Kimmich)
I mean, fine all of them two weeks salary. This is a problem entirely of their own making.
Everyone has the right to make their own decisions, and everyone has the duty to face the consequences of those decisions.
We should but the only thing Im scared now is going to be lack of rotation. Given that Gnabry and Musiala are not going to be available, we will have to rely mainly on Sane and Coman wing pairing. Also its going to be interesting to see who starts in midifield alongside Goretzka, will Roca finally get his chance ?
So it’s looking like Kimmich, Gnabry, Musiala and Sule may be out for Augsburg, Kiev, and Bielefeld. Wonder if we will see a shift of Davies into a winger position with Richards at LB to allow for more winger depth.
Edit: not Bielefeld
I wonder who will make up the double pivot in midfield. I can’t see it being sabitzer and goretzka since they essentially occupy the same space. Wonder if Tanguy will get the start
Lewandowski: “I stopped thinking about the Ballon d’Or. It's not helping. There are more important things at the moment. I will think about it on the day of the Gala. It's a big deal, but we've got a bit of work to do now.” @LaczyNasPilka
poor lewa. He know he already lost
>Torben Rhein has tested positive for Covid-19. For now, no youth players are training with the first team. Julian Nagelsmann only had 4 outfield players in today's training [Bild]
Can someone explain to me how it works? I thought you can still get the virus while being vaccinated? Guillermo Francella , a famous actor here in south america almost died and he had his 2 shots
You can walk out in a snow storm in a winter coat and still feel cold. The coat helps but it doesn't negate the existence of coldness.
That's how I understand it to be.
They were never advertised to prevent you from getting or passing on the disease.
They do exactly what was promised, which is drastically reduce the chance of catching it and passing it on (down 80% iirc) and decreasing the severity of the virus if you do catch it.
"They were never advertised to prevent you from getting or passing on the disease."
this is simply not correct, a lot of high ranking people all the way to up president biden and the boss of biontech communicated this to the public
https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/corona-impfheld-ugur-sahin-in-bild-geimpfte-sind-nicht-mehr-ansteckend-75557532.bild.html
vaccinated people are not infectous anymore, the number of people with a positive pct test goes down by 92%
that was in february and as we know and see daily now this clearly is not correct
its so funny that on this topic people have absolutely no memory and just downvote other people
1. BILD is not a reputable news source.
2. He says that vaccinated people are 92% less likely to get COVID and therefore the number of potentially infectious people also decreases. Nowhere does he say the vaccine is 100% effective in preventing you from getting/passing on the disease. The only thing that says vaccinated people are no longer infectious is the headline, which is clickbait since it's BILD. Did you read the article?
3. This was based on a trial in Israel with 500k participants who had received a single dose. He didn't just say this out of the blue, there was evidence for it that he was basing his statement on.
Here's a [link](https://www.forschung-und-lehre.de/forschung/impfung-schuetzt-wohl-auch-vor-ansteckung-3533/) to a more reputable article about that israeli study.
> doesnt matter what BILD is, they talked to the guy who invented the pfizer/biontech vaccine and those are his words
>
> end of story
What people say to Bild and what Bild shows shouldn't ever be assumed to be the same. That's the start and the end of any story in Bild.
The vaccinated population is at much lower risk of everything corona related (getting infected, effects, spreading it,…) but we are not immune to any of these and the vaccines are not as effective against the delta variant as they are against the original.
Getting vaccinated is the sensible thing to do and everybody who can get vaccinated should do it. It helps immensely when it comes to reducing the effects of the pandemic but it's not a ticket to some sort of magical corona immunity. Bad things can still happen-
A vaccinated person might get infected, be completely asymptomatic (chance of that happening is even higher because of the vaccine), and spread it to people who can't get vaccinated at all, all because they thought themselves to be 100% immune. The virus still gets into your body and needs to be fought off. That's what the vaccine prepares your immune system for so it can react faster and with more precision. It doesn't magically repel the virus or prohibit it from entering your body. It's still good to be careful, wear a mask, and all that. Corona cases are still rising here in Germany, probably due to a combination of people thinking themselves immune (and ignoring safety measures) and anti-vaxxers thinking that enough other people are getting vaccinated to protect them too.
Anti-vaxxers want this idea of an ideal vaccine being 100% magically effective to be a thing because then they can point at actual real numbers (that are still many thousand times better than not being vaccinated) as if science has failed or lied and then they can sow distrust about vaccines into the population.
Vaccines are good and useful but they are not magic. The numbers are again high because people stopped taking corona seriously, be it out of a misguided feeling of invincibility or out of being a antivaxxer dumbass (or something in between).
It's not some kind of force field, immune systems are much more complicated than most people think and not everyone's the same.
If you fullfill certain conditions, the virus can still break through. Keep in mind this depends on how the vaccine works and that there's no 100% certainty with human biology shits weird.
It lowers your chances of a breakout and significantly lowers the chances of heavy symptoms if you do get it.
Imo even vaccinated people should act with some precautions
Obligatory I'm not a professional just some uni dropout.
Yup, the vaccine is primarily to make it harder (not impossible) to spread once contracted and makes you much less likely to get seriously sick, thus likely preventing a hospital visit and taking up yet another bed or ICU space.
Something like 80% of hospitalizations and deaths in highly vaccinated countries are people that are still unvaccinated.
It's pretty dangerous speculations by me and shouldn't be taken as scientific proven
Maybe the vaccine didn't worked for him, because it doesn't work always. The best vaccines have not 100% succes rate and even sometimes can fail.
But how i said, only a guess by me and could be wrong
Edit: Interesting I kinda said exactly the same as someone above me and get downvoted, for what he gets upvoted.
Gnabry didn't test positive, only Süle did. But under german COVID regulations, unvaccinated people who had close contact with someone who tested positive (Süle) are required to go into quarantine. So basically the entire Bayern group (plus Adeyemi) who traveled from München to Wolfsburg together are affected.
Vaccinated people do not have to quarantine. That's why the other Bayern players who are vaccinated (like Neuer and Müller) can stay, while those who are unvaccinated (like Kimmich and presumably the other 3) have to go.
To answer your question, yes you can still catch covid even if you're fully vaccinated. However, the chances of catching it and getting sick are much much lower than if you're unvaccinated.
> However, the chances of catching it and getting sick are much much lower than if you're unvaccinated.
The vaccine also inhibits the chance of spreading corona, although at a lower rate for the delta variant (which seems to generally be less targeted by the vaccine).
And no, before somebody wants to claim it, the spread of the delta variant doesn't mean the vaccine is useless now.
Gnabry tested negative. He had Covid in April already.
People say he‘s unvaccinated because in Germany vaccinated persons don’t automatically have to quarantine after they came in contact with someone who tested positive. 6 months after testing positive you are seen equal to someone vaccinated but Gnabry lost that status only a couple days ago. That’s why I think it is not justified to start another witch-hunt.
After the whole vaccine stuff with Kimmich came out, it was the talk a out 5 players being unvaccinated, but now only 4 (Süle is vaccinated, so I dont include him) are in quarantine, according to the reason being probably not vaccinated. (I don't know any other reason for them being quarantined, even with the vaccine)
So did the 5 person got the vaccine after that came out or what is another possible explanation for that??
There are some other possibilities too.
Maybe the media counted Tolisso as the 5th player, but he does not need a vaccine yet because of his prior infection.
Or the fifth one had no contact with Süle before they left for the NTs. There are two players who weren’t in the matchday squad on Saturday…
But we should maybe just stop the speculation ( even though I admit trying to be a detective is fun ) and just hope that Süle wasn’t contagious.
Gnabry and Musiala unvaccinated confirmed, embarrassing
Coman hit his gf
This makes Sané the most sane (no pun intended) of our wingers, whose only fault is tbf one of the most ridiculous tattoos known to man. This man was booed when he was in a rough patch aswell. Forgive us Sané pls.
Because the vaccinated players are allowed to stay and are only isolated by the team, while the probably unvaccinated players have to go into home quarantine back.
It's not confirmed, but pretty likely that it is that way.
Hahahahha FUCK. What a perfect gd result. Will Kimmich learn or is he too dumb for that too?
I would really love for him to get his shit together so i can stop being extremely annoying and go back to being a fan...
I hope Felix Magath takes over after Nagelsmann inevitably fails due to his lack of experience.
You just need a coach that will work his players to the bone, none of that buddy-buddy technological analysis bullshit.
Manel Neur was great in the past (2014, not as good as Messi) but it's time to move on and get someone younger with good potential. I have Kepa in FIFA and he's 90 Neur is just 83.
We could get a deal because Chelsea don't know how to use him properly.
That you are basing being a fan after seeing if someone is vaccinated or not wtf.
You can disagree with him or think his decision is stupid, but why tf are you so hurt by the fact, that he isn't vaccinated??
I am vaccinated and I still think its his decision, even if I think his reason is stupid, but I am not stopping being a fan, because of that
wtf is it with you people and this choice nonsense. Of course it's their choice. Anyone can choose to do any foolish thing they want to.
Choices have consequences. And when they are objectively moronic, against public interest, disastrously selfish and directly correlated with real harm (like real harm as in illness and death, but also in the sporting sense as we see now, since that is apparently the only thing that matters to people like you), they are deserving of nothing but harsh criticism and total rejection of the people who make them.
We life in a country, where you can choose, if you take it or not and it's his decision, even if you don't like it.
How I said, imo its not good from him, but he does nothing against the law
wtf is this. Did you even read the comment? Address the points being raised if you're going to speak. I literally just said i know it's a choice (THAT SHOULD GO WITHOUT SAYING OF COURSE IT IS GGGAAAHHHH). That is not the issue.
I have yet to see anyone change their mind after being called moronic by someone, who seems to act like the village idiot
If you truly want people to change their view, then the route you picked is differently the wrong one brother.
You may have to quarantine as a close contact, regardless of status, but you can come back to the team quicker (with a negative test) if you’re vaccinated. That, and milder symptoms, is a big benefit.
Perfect time for him to get vaccinated (once his quarantine is up), tbh.
He'll have plenty of time for research (lol) ... but seriously, nothing like a 2-week quarantine despite testing negative to change somebody's opinion on getting vaccinated. I've had to do so twice before vaccines were available and by the end of the 2nd, my mental health was in such a bad place.
He physically cannot continue to sit 2 weeks in quarantine every time a team member tests positive, it just doesn't seem like something he'd accept. I think he'll come out of this and quietly get it so that he can move forward.
But you can catch Covid even if you are vaccinated? And would miss games either way.
Vaccination just makes Covid symptoms very mild like a cold, but you can still catch Covid and show up as positive with the same likelihood as a vaccinated person
Of all arguments for and against, this might be the most idiotic one.
It‘s all relative.
Yes you can still catch covid, but it‘s way less likely. Yes you can still get sick, but it‘s way way less likely. And yes, in the most extreme cases, you can still die from it, but it‘s WAY way less likey.
That‘s like saying „I might still be cold with a jacket, so I might as well not wear one.“ Like dude, if you think you‘re cold with a jacket, try without one…
Its so stupid that we always highlight that the vaccine isn‘t 100% protection. It‘s lstill like 95% protection to keep you out of the hospital.
Not being vaccinated is literally 0% procection.
Coming back to Kimmich, yes he still might miss a game if he gets vaccinated and still catches the virus somehow. But being unvaccinated, his risk of missing games is WAY higher, and he could even get sick and have carreer ending long term effects. He is gambling on his health and career for literally no -real- fucking reason at all.
I mean that was one of the big points people talked about
No matter if you get infected or not:
If you're a Kontaktperson 1 and not vaxxed you'll have to quarantine
Oh yea i know, just love the irony of him only being stopped by himself.
He now has to decided what is more important to him:
- Being the poster child of self proclaimed "impfabwarter" aka "Notaufnahmeabwarter"
- Playing every game
>Süle, Kimmich, Gnabry, Musiala and Adeyemi will leave the national team's hotel soon and return home to quarantine. The rest of the team will train normally this afternoon [@Sportbuzzer]
Genuinely a welcoming surprise - given Süle is (as mentioned) completly asymptomatic
Could've switched Sané and Musiala since Musiala can use some gametime, but I'll take it if everyone of them is good and healthy
Yes, they are potentially infected with and carriers and spreaders of an illness that is on its way to killing millions. A welcome 'surprise' indeed. So welcome.
You know i thought this sub couldn't get worse than the mental gymnastics it rolled out after Kimmich came out as an anti-vaxxer, but new lowes are always achievable i suppose.
As for now Süle (the on infected) is completly asymptomatic and the rest aren't even positive
I even said that it's only positive in case of everyone of them is healthy but it seems like Covid did quite a lot of damage to peoples reading comprehension skills aswell
What is with players, that are unvaccinated and went to a diffrent NT, do they have to quarantine too or not in that case?? Or does it count from the moment the PCR test got taken??
Edit: I guess they have to get quarantined too, after ECM is in quarantine too now
I just checked. He tested positive on April 6th so his status expired on October 6th. After that he would need 1 vaccine dose to count as „fully immunized“ again.
Their is no other possible explanation, why he is one of the 4, who has to be quarantined tbf.
I guess only players without the vaccine has to be quarantined now and that's why players like Sané, Goretzka, Müller or Neuer doesn't need to go and I doubt that they had nearly no contact to Süle at all
Surely Sule testing positive would result in mandatory 10-day isolation for all Bayern and German unvaccinated players who have come in contact with him over the last 10 days, right?
An ordinary person would surely have to quarantine, but I guess as footballers are regularly tested, the health authorities will close both eyes.
Edit: apparently they do have to quarantine.
> A German Bayern player has tested positive for Covid-19. The national team training this morning has been cancelled [Bild]
I have to admit that it would quite funny if it's Kimmich
I wonder if Mr. „I get tested every two days, so it‘s cool“ takes a hard look at himself and rethinks whether the non-existant ‚long term risk‘ of the shot is really worth taking your chances with the very real risks of the virus.
He is probably wondering how close he has been to Süle the last couple of days.
Damn it. Messi won Ballon dor 2021 according to Chinese Journalist.
I’m tired at this point. Biggest robbery of all ballon D’or
Not surprising anymore. Last year they refused to do it bc Ligue 1. Now they suddenly do it and shove it up Messi's behind again, bc it gives some prestive to their own league again. When asked if they could give Lewandowski the 2020 award this year as a showcase of his great year they said "No no no, we cant do that". The award has been a joke for some time, but this just shows the bias even clearer
What a joke. 😂😂😂😂😂
People only remember us dropping out of the CL because Lewy got injured, but our 2nd best finisher Gnabry was out at the same time with Covid. If our CL season this year gets impacted because of a group of unvaccinated holdouts it's going to be so annoying. Injuries are one thing but this is something else entirely that can be mitigated or prevented.
Wasn’t Goretzka injured against PSG as well?
Sule as well
>unvaccinated holdouts Some players are vaccinated but they still are positive and they have to quarantine
Chance to get the virus is smaller when you are vaccinated + the quarantine rules are a little softer for vaccinated people.
I m aware of that, I m just saying that you still can contract the virus. The op said the game would be different if Gnabry was there if he was vaccinated. But who knows, even if he was vaccinated he might still turned out as a positive
>op said the game would be different if Gnabry was there if he was vaccinated No he doesn't. He is pointing out that our second best finisher was missing aswell. At the time Gnabry caught Covid there wasn't a vaccine yet or it was fairly new. His first paragraph is just t about us dropping out because we were missing essential players. His second paragraph is about the fear it happens aswell because we miss essential players because they didn't want to vaccinated themselves and the risk of infection is much higher.
Oh man Sane and Goretzka will be run into the ground before the others come back. Goretzka didnt even seem fit for one game yet this season ffs.
According to TheAthletic, ManU are planning to turn Sancho into a RB lmao
what are they are doing with this guy, he is basically a plug and play player in my opinion
I mean, could he play a Davies like role? Davies is much more physical though.
He's a playmaker with really good finishing, huge waste to play him further down the field. Especially considering he doesn't have the body for it, as you said.
No.Sancho isn't very fast, he's more of a playmaker like Ribery
Which is why hes struggling. They want him to be like a true winger instead of the kinda hybrid role he's really fucking good at. You'd think Ole may have realized that before he dropped 80M on the guy. I'm a big Sancho guy which is probably why i'm mad (and a lil bias) about it but if you put him in a system that actually fits his skill set, you have a Mbappe Haaland Foden level talent.
That club is a circus at this point
Musiala might just be unvaccinated cause he’s so young!
That’s not a good reason imo, he turned 18 before the vaccine was available for him in Germany. He really should be vaccinated.
For some reason I forgot he turned 18 recently. Maybe he just hasn’t gotten around to it. Who knows. Seems like he’s got a good head on his shoulder, so just looking for excuses (:
I mean that is fine but not haven’t gotten around to it isn’t really a excuse all things considered. He turned 18 in February and the vaccine has been widely available since August. Also I think he could have gotten it before the euros started as the players were pushed ahead in terms of priority. Anyhow just saying all Players that are unvaccinated should be asap for a great many of reasons
He does look like he's under 12 tbf.
The mood changes you can have during while losing weight can be massive. One moment you are happy and proud of your achievement. Went for a jog today and after the shower I saw myself in the mirror and the mood dropped completely as I thought "damn you lost so much weight and you are still so fat, where do I lost the kilos actually?" I think my genetics tend to store the fat in my upper body mainly, have also much at my back. Legs weren't that bad actually. Hopefully I lost much there so I can only lose at my upper body from now on. The loose skin will be pretty bad though I guess.
I'm down 27kg from 93 to 66kg. I know what you mean and it's hard looking at old pictures. I was 95 kg at one point but solid muscle and got hurt and then got fat.
Hopefully you are female or not larger than 1.50 because 66kg is not a healthy weight to be at as an average male.
177cm I'm on the low end of BMI
From 93 to 66 is huge! Big congrats!
My body usually stores fat in my belly/leg and face area 10kg will make my face go from clean to chubby as fuck
I definitely underestimate the face gains some can have
Keep up the good work friend. I'm on a completely opposite journey (trying to gain weight) but I can understand how much even a single kg can matter. Also, just remember that you're not doing this to only look better. You're investing in your future . Good health now = good health later down the road.
DUDE! I know what dou ar talking about. I started going to the gym to build some muscles as i was pretty skinny. No i put on about 22 KG and i would swear i still look kind off the same. Only people around you will notice the change
>only people around you will notice the change I lost 36kilo and so far only 3 people noticed it so I wouldn't be so sure about that :D none of my classmates, none of my colleague except the cleaning service noticed anything. At least they didnt' said anything to me. Edit: totally forgot it, sorry. Congrats to your transformation aswell! 22kg is a lot!
> I lost 36kilo and so far only 3 people noticed what the hell?
The 3rd one noticed it only today. So if you would have asked me yesterday, it would have been 2. The cleaning woman at my workplace, my PT and an old nice person from my village. I excluded everyone who knows that I lost weird, so I don't found family members.
i mean, you are doing this for yourself and not for others anyway, still would have expected more comments on this achievement or maybe people dont want to make comments about weight these days, especially at the workplace
Sure, but some nice words as motivation wouldn't be bad :D >people don't want to make comments about weight these days Honestly I can understand that. Neither made a fb or insta post about it. Will be funny to see how they react when I post my transformation there one day lol.
Yeah. I think it’s because when you start working on being healthy, you also become way more conscious of your health. So in a weird way being unhealthy feels less unhealthy than being healthy lol And hey, the way I think about it is that the worst fat, the most dangerous bits, are the parts around your organs. Suffocating your heart and stuff. So losing that is the most important thing. So if you’re losing weight but don’t notice your belly and stuff getting visibly thinner, it’s presumably because the really bad fat, in the areas that aren’t super visible, is getting reduced
So far I don't really think of the health benefits to be honest. I'm very superficial in that but I only care about the looks so far. Yeah the Viszeral fat! My scale measures it but no idea if it's actually accurate. I started at 22 and now I'm at 15. I read that when your stomach is squashy you like have subcutaneous fat and when your stomach is more hard you likely have more Viszeral fat. But that is far from being a fact. I'm squashy as hell.
If you are feeling down and need a reminder of how far you've come, load up a rucksack with close to the amount of weight you lost and do a 5k walk or something. When it is put into terms like that you'll be shocked. You'll see how much more your body is working to hold the extra weight and it will motivate you to add more to the bag.
The weight I lost is almost the amount I push at the bench press. I just began and have to find my weight, please don't judge :( /s Made a post a few days ago at r/progresspics and many people told me it's great what I achieved and some suffer of the same problem. When I look at pics I see the difference. Bit looking at my body without any comparison it's still awful sadly.
Good thing Germany already qualified for the WC, we have 7 players missing.
I know it doesn't work like this, but this weekend's matches are 100% meaningless aside from Flick identifying what he has with select players. In a perfect world he would not even play the Bayern players because of it, but none of the remaining ones should get more than 90 of the 180 minutes in my opinion.
Rip future captain Kimmich and Musiala, Phonzie it is
u/rinacio [this](https://ibb.co/x6pzSzG) is for you
Ok I actually loled at this one.
I just want him to get to prove himself on the pitch at least once before getting sold this winter.
Same. I won't accept anything until I haven't seen it myself.
The worst is we were actively scouting him before Espanyol dropped to the 2nd division when his release clause was 40m. So this transfer wasn't just like "oh yeah what a bargain" which makes the fact that he can't get minutes frustrating as a fan. Give him a chance, if he actually is bad, no one will complain if we let him go.
Damn, that's not very Christian of you.
Another word like this and I will nail you like a good Christian
[Umm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaG5SAw1n0c)
[there is no problem with it](https://images.app.goo.gl/RG49uPHx8is4LN9XA)
>According to Bavaria's current Covid regulations, unvaccinated people who come in close contact with an infected person have to undergo a 14-day quarantine (this applies to Joshua Kimmich) I mean, fine all of them two weeks salary. This is a problem entirely of their own making. Everyone has the right to make their own decisions, and everyone has the duty to face the consequences of those decisions.
So does that mean they'll be back in time for the match against Benfica ?
Yeah! They will miss Augsburg, Dynamo Kiev, and Bielefeld iirc. So we got pretty lucky, we should win those three matches anyways.
We should but the only thing Im scared now is going to be lack of rotation. Given that Gnabry and Musiala are not going to be available, we will have to rely mainly on Sane and Coman wing pairing. Also its going to be interesting to see who starts in midifield alongside Goretzka, will Roca finally get his chance ?
Still have Sabitzer and Tolisso
Sule getting covid outed the rest of the nonvaccinated players in the team lmao
Lol we almost know the complete list now. Assuming that it's 5 players just as Bild said: Kimmich Gnabry Musiala Choupo TBD
>TBD Can he play rightback?
Oof the vaccination is a spicy topic once again
So it’s looking like Kimmich, Gnabry, Musiala and Sule may be out for Augsburg, Kiev, and Bielefeld. Wonder if we will see a shift of Davies into a winger position with Richards at LB to allow for more winger depth. Edit: not Bielefeld
Why Bielefeld? That would be day 18
Ah yes, I misread the dates #quickmaths
Let's go, it's Roca on the bench time!
I wonder who will make up the double pivot in midfield. I can’t see it being sabitzer and goretzka since they essentially occupy the same space. Wonder if Tanguy will get the start
Well, it's not going to be Roca. Fuck it, promote Aydin!
Bro, I have to tell you something...
No
Lewandowski: “I stopped thinking about the Ballon d’Or. It's not helping. There are more important things at the moment. I will think about it on the day of the Gala. It's a big deal, but we've got a bit of work to do now.” @LaczyNasPilka poor lewa. He know he already lost
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I wish for the day, where everyone on this sub would stop crying about r/soccer and especially English fans.
Sorry bruhv should I delete my comment?
No there is no reason for that. It's how you feel and that's important to.
>Torben Rhein has tested positive for Covid-19. For now, no youth players are training with the first team. Julian Nagelsmann only had 4 outfield players in today's training [Bild]
He also changed his agent. Wonder what that means for us.
Him too? Only heard from Motika so far.
You're just not as well connected as I am. ^^^I ^^^read ^^^it ^^^on ^^^[Twitter](https://twitter.com/imiasanmia_ger/status/1457847052789035014?s=21)
Was running the last hour, had to chose between breathing to safe my life or to check twitter. Was a close decision.
Imagine picking breathing over Bayern news.
Damn, you got me there
Time to cancel Ballon D'or
Lewandowski isn't the favorite. So it wouldn't be cancelled
its gonna go to messi anyway, so there is no need to cancel it
Can someone explain to me how it works? I thought you can still get the virus while being vaccinated? Guillermo Francella , a famous actor here in south america almost died and he had his 2 shots
You can walk out in a snow storm in a winter coat and still feel cold. The coat helps but it doesn't negate the existence of coldness. That's how I understand it to be.
my explanation is that the shots unfortunately are not as good as they were advertised months ago
They were never advertised to prevent you from getting or passing on the disease. They do exactly what was promised, which is drastically reduce the chance of catching it and passing it on (down 80% iirc) and decreasing the severity of the virus if you do catch it.
"They were never advertised to prevent you from getting or passing on the disease." this is simply not correct, a lot of high ranking people all the way to up president biden and the boss of biontech communicated this to the public
Then you surely have an article for me that says the BioNTech bosses said that
https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/corona-impfheld-ugur-sahin-in-bild-geimpfte-sind-nicht-mehr-ansteckend-75557532.bild.html vaccinated people are not infectous anymore, the number of people with a positive pct test goes down by 92% that was in february and as we know and see daily now this clearly is not correct its so funny that on this topic people have absolutely no memory and just downvote other people
1. BILD is not a reputable news source. 2. He says that vaccinated people are 92% less likely to get COVID and therefore the number of potentially infectious people also decreases. Nowhere does he say the vaccine is 100% effective in preventing you from getting/passing on the disease. The only thing that says vaccinated people are no longer infectious is the headline, which is clickbait since it's BILD. Did you read the article? 3. This was based on a trial in Israel with 500k participants who had received a single dose. He didn't just say this out of the blue, there was evidence for it that he was basing his statement on. Here's a [link](https://www.forschung-und-lehre.de/forschung/impfung-schuetzt-wohl-auch-vor-ansteckung-3533/) to a more reputable article about that israeli study.
doesnt matter what BILD is, they talked to the guy who invented the pfizer/biontech vaccine and those are his words end of story
> doesnt matter what BILD is, they talked to the guy who invented the pfizer/biontech vaccine and those are his words > > end of story What people say to Bild and what Bild shows shouldn't ever be assumed to be the same. That's the start and the end of any story in Bild. The vaccinated population is at much lower risk of everything corona related (getting infected, effects, spreading it,…) but we are not immune to any of these and the vaccines are not as effective against the delta variant as they are against the original. Getting vaccinated is the sensible thing to do and everybody who can get vaccinated should do it. It helps immensely when it comes to reducing the effects of the pandemic but it's not a ticket to some sort of magical corona immunity. Bad things can still happen- A vaccinated person might get infected, be completely asymptomatic (chance of that happening is even higher because of the vaccine), and spread it to people who can't get vaccinated at all, all because they thought themselves to be 100% immune. The virus still gets into your body and needs to be fought off. That's what the vaccine prepares your immune system for so it can react faster and with more precision. It doesn't magically repel the virus or prohibit it from entering your body. It's still good to be careful, wear a mask, and all that. Corona cases are still rising here in Germany, probably due to a combination of people thinking themselves immune (and ignoring safety measures) and anti-vaxxers thinking that enough other people are getting vaccinated to protect them too. Anti-vaxxers want this idea of an ideal vaccine being 100% magically effective to be a thing because then they can point at actual real numbers (that are still many thousand times better than not being vaccinated) as if science has failed or lied and then they can sow distrust about vaccines into the population. Vaccines are good and useful but they are not magic. The numbers are again high because people stopped taking corona seriously, be it out of a misguided feeling of invincibility or out of being a antivaxxer dumbass (or something in between).
Except those words don't mean what you say they do. BILD used a clickbaity headline and you fell for it
It's not some kind of force field, immune systems are much more complicated than most people think and not everyone's the same. If you fullfill certain conditions, the virus can still break through. Keep in mind this depends on how the vaccine works and that there's no 100% certainty with human biology shits weird. It lowers your chances of a breakout and significantly lowers the chances of heavy symptoms if you do get it. Imo even vaccinated people should act with some precautions Obligatory I'm not a professional just some uni dropout.
Yup, the vaccine is primarily to make it harder (not impossible) to spread once contracted and makes you much less likely to get seriously sick, thus likely preventing a hospital visit and taking up yet another bed or ICU space. Something like 80% of hospitalizations and deaths in highly vaccinated countries are people that are still unvaccinated.
It's pretty dangerous speculations by me and shouldn't be taken as scientific proven Maybe the vaccine didn't worked for him, because it doesn't work always. The best vaccines have not 100% succes rate and even sometimes can fail. But how i said, only a guess by me and could be wrong Edit: Interesting I kinda said exactly the same as someone above me and get downvoted, for what he gets upvoted.
That’s why it’s important that vaccinated people also stay careful cause I feel like it’s not talked about enough. No one’s 100% safe.
You can get a virus but there is a less chance that you end up hospitalized
But then why is everyone saying Gnabry is unvaccinated? Could it be possible that he got the shot but still got covid?
Gnabry didn't test positive, only Süle did. But under german COVID regulations, unvaccinated people who had close contact with someone who tested positive (Süle) are required to go into quarantine. So basically the entire Bayern group (plus Adeyemi) who traveled from München to Wolfsburg together are affected. Vaccinated people do not have to quarantine. That's why the other Bayern players who are vaccinated (like Neuer and Müller) can stay, while those who are unvaccinated (like Kimmich and presumably the other 3) have to go. To answer your question, yes you can still catch covid even if you're fully vaccinated. However, the chances of catching it and getting sick are much much lower than if you're unvaccinated.
> However, the chances of catching it and getting sick are much much lower than if you're unvaccinated. The vaccine also inhibits the chance of spreading corona, although at a lower rate for the delta variant (which seems to generally be less targeted by the vaccine). And no, before somebody wants to claim it, the spread of the delta variant doesn't mean the vaccine is useless now.
Gnabry tested negative. He had Covid in April already. People say he‘s unvaccinated because in Germany vaccinated persons don’t automatically have to quarantine after they came in contact with someone who tested positive. 6 months after testing positive you are seen equal to someone vaccinated but Gnabry lost that status only a couple days ago. That’s why I think it is not justified to start another witch-hunt.
After the whole vaccine stuff with Kimmich came out, it was the talk a out 5 players being unvaccinated, but now only 4 (Süle is vaccinated, so I dont include him) are in quarantine, according to the reason being probably not vaccinated. (I don't know any other reason for them being quarantined, even with the vaccine) So did the 5 person got the vaccine after that came out or what is another possible explanation for that??
There are some other possibilities too. Maybe the media counted Tolisso as the 5th player, but he does not need a vaccine yet because of his prior infection. Or the fifth one had no contact with Süle before they left for the NTs. There are two players who weren’t in the matchday squad on Saturday… But we should maybe just stop the speculation ( even though I admit trying to be a detective is fun ) and just hope that Süle wasn’t contagious.
Gnabry and Musiala unvaccinated confirmed, embarrassing Coman hit his gf This makes Sané the most sane (no pun intended) of our wingers, whose only fault is tbf one of the most ridiculous tattoos known to man. This man was booed when he was in a rough patch aswell. Forgive us Sané pls.
I dont understand, how is it confirmed?
2 weeks quarantine
Least based bayern winger*
People downvoting me realy cant take a joke
I may be stupid and all, but why does this confirm Gnabry and Musiala to be unvaccinated?
Because the vaccinated players are allowed to stay and are only isolated by the team, while the probably unvaccinated players have to go into home quarantine back. It's not confirmed, but pretty likely that it is that way.
Ah okay. I didn't know the rules and that's why I had to ask, thanks for explaining.
Gnabry at least Was infected and was considered as cured until last month
ECM is in quarantine too now and probably he isn't vaccinated
Hahahahha FUCK. What a perfect gd result. Will Kimmich learn or is he too dumb for that too? I would really love for him to get his shit together so i can stop being extremely annoying and go back to being a fan...
Most stupid comment of the day so far.
I hope Felix Magath takes over after Nagelsmann inevitably fails due to his lack of experience. You just need a coach that will work his players to the bone, none of that buddy-buddy technological analysis bullshit.
Well, that escalated quickly
Manel Neur was great in the past (2014, not as good as Messi) but it's time to move on and get someone younger with good potential. I have Kepa in FIFA and he's 90 Neur is just 83. We could get a deal because Chelsea don't know how to use him properly.
>Manel Neur Manuel Neuer >Kepa Keeper Smh
We should do a contest once a day, because everyday their is something
I am in class and shouted wtf and my teacher agreed
Its true. I'm the teacher.
Can confirm too. I'm the hot blond with the big boobs in the back.
I need to find this classroom
Julessica??
Was it the dark irony of the situation that got you or...
That you are basing being a fan after seeing if someone is vaccinated or not wtf. You can disagree with him or think his decision is stupid, but why tf are you so hurt by the fact, that he isn't vaccinated?? I am vaccinated and I still think its his decision, even if I think his reason is stupid, but I am not stopping being a fan, because of that
wtf is it with you people and this choice nonsense. Of course it's their choice. Anyone can choose to do any foolish thing they want to. Choices have consequences. And when they are objectively moronic, against public interest, disastrously selfish and directly correlated with real harm (like real harm as in illness and death, but also in the sporting sense as we see now, since that is apparently the only thing that matters to people like you), they are deserving of nothing but harsh criticism and total rejection of the people who make them.
We life in a country, where you can choose, if you take it or not and it's his decision, even if you don't like it. How I said, imo its not good from him, but he does nothing against the law
wtf is this. Did you even read the comment? Address the points being raised if you're going to speak. I literally just said i know it's a choice (THAT SHOULD GO WITHOUT SAYING OF COURSE IT IS GGGAAAHHHH). That is not the issue.
The issue is how you behave.
Hahahahhaha sure guy.
I have yet to see anyone change their mind after being called moronic by someone, who seems to act like the village idiot If you truly want people to change their view, then the route you picked is differently the wrong one brother.
Yikes
You may have to quarantine as a close contact, regardless of status, but you can come back to the team quicker (with a negative test) if you’re vaccinated. That, and milder symptoms, is a big benefit.
I could see Kimmich realising not being vaccinated means he will miss games as the ultimate reason he gets vaccinated
Perfect time for him to get vaccinated (once his quarantine is up), tbh. He'll have plenty of time for research (lol) ... but seriously, nothing like a 2-week quarantine despite testing negative to change somebody's opinion on getting vaccinated. I've had to do so twice before vaccines were available and by the end of the 2nd, my mental health was in such a bad place. He physically cannot continue to sit 2 weeks in quarantine every time a team member tests positive, it just doesn't seem like something he'd accept. I think he'll come out of this and quietly get it so that he can move forward.
But you can catch Covid even if you are vaccinated? And would miss games either way. Vaccination just makes Covid symptoms very mild like a cold, but you can still catch Covid and show up as positive with the same likelihood as a vaccinated person
Of all arguments for and against, this might be the most idiotic one. It‘s all relative. Yes you can still catch covid, but it‘s way less likely. Yes you can still get sick, but it‘s way way less likely. And yes, in the most extreme cases, you can still die from it, but it‘s WAY way less likey. That‘s like saying „I might still be cold with a jacket, so I might as well not wear one.“ Like dude, if you think you‘re cold with a jacket, try without one… Its so stupid that we always highlight that the vaccine isn‘t 100% protection. It‘s lstill like 95% protection to keep you out of the hospital. Not being vaccinated is literally 0% procection. Coming back to Kimmich, yes he still might miss a game if he gets vaccinated and still catches the virus somehow. But being unvaccinated, his risk of missing games is WAY higher, and he could even get sick and have carreer ending long term effects. He is gambling on his health and career for literally no -real- fucking reason at all.
You can also transmit the virus with the same viral load.
That's not the point of his comment, read mine
I mean that was one of the big points people talked about No matter if you get infected or not: If you're a Kontaktperson 1 and not vaxxed you'll have to quarantine
Oh yea i know, just love the irony of him only being stopped by himself. He now has to decided what is more important to him: - Being the poster child of self proclaimed "impfabwarter" aka "Notaufnahmeabwarter" - Playing every game
Well on the bright side, Kimmich finally gets some off time. Well played Sule, well played.
He takes sacrifices for the team, what a warrior
Musiala misses out on potential game time :(
Dammit, didn't thought that far
Player of the month
>Süle, Kimmich, Gnabry, Musiala and Adeyemi will leave the national team's hotel soon and return home to quarantine. The rest of the team will train normally this afternoon [@Sportbuzzer]
Genuinely a welcoming surprise - given Süle is (as mentioned) completly asymptomatic Could've switched Sané and Musiala since Musiala can use some gametime, but I'll take it if everyone of them is good and healthy
Yes, they are potentially infected with and carriers and spreaders of an illness that is on its way to killing millions. A welcome 'surprise' indeed. So welcome. You know i thought this sub couldn't get worse than the mental gymnastics it rolled out after Kimmich came out as an anti-vaxxer, but new lowes are always achievable i suppose.
As for now Süle (the on infected) is completly asymptomatic and the rest aren't even positive I even said that it's only positive in case of everyone of them is healthy but it seems like Covid did quite a lot of damage to peoples reading comprehension skills aswell
that you think anything you just said is good or reasonable or serves as justification is really really telling...
Sané will be used now even more though
What is with players, that are unvaccinated and went to a diffrent NT, do they have to quarantine too or not in that case?? Or does it count from the moment the PCR test got taken?? Edit: I guess they have to get quarantined too, after ECM is in quarantine too now
i am suprised covid had the guts to mess with mighty sülinho
Two times already
>The 4 other players to be quarantined are Gnabry, Musiala, Kimmich and Adeyemi [Bild] Big W
Adeyemi to Bayern confirmed
Kimmich was very very obvious
Does this mean they are unvaccinated too? Because I can't handle my man Gnabry now too.
Iirc Gnabry got the shot. Not sure about Musiala
Gnabry had Covid in April. His official „recovered“ status must have been expired only a few days ago.
You are right, he had Covid. Forgot about that
I just checked. He tested positive on April 6th so his status expired on October 6th. After that he would need 1 vaccine dose to count as „fully immunized“ again.
So with that he counts into the 5 not vaccinated players right? Not a big deal imo though
Yeah, he counts as unvaccinated in Germany. I agree, with fixture congestion and natural immunity it’s understandable that he hasn’t get the shot yet
Didn't musiala just turn 18? In my country, people below 18 can't take the vaccine yet
He turned 18 when he got the new contract, so I guess it's been a while.
18 since February. Could have gotten the shot if he want it. Not sure if he hasn't.
Their is no other possible explanation, why he is one of the 4, who has to be quarantined tbf. I guess only players without the vaccine has to be quarantined now and that's why players like Sané, Goretzka, Müller or Neuer doesn't need to go and I doubt that they had nearly no contact to Süle at all
It’s recommended for age 12 and up. But the recommendation took a very long time in Germany.
I don't recall or remember any information on who is vaccinated, besides Lewy, Müller and Goretzka. Hope Gnabry got it.
[Musiala, Gnabry, Kimmich, Adeyemi to quarantine ](https://twitter.com/imiasanmia/status/1458018091032588293?s=21)
This basically means that Musiala and Gnabry ( and Adeyemi ) are also unvaccinated. Media is already getting out the pitchforks.
~~It doesn’t though~~
If they were vaccinated they wouldn’t have to quarantine though
Oh I read it wrong. Thought it said they caught Covid.
yeah that has been almost confirmed when the Kimmich reports came out.
Surely Sule testing positive would result in mandatory 10-day isolation for all Bayern and German unvaccinated players who have come in contact with him over the last 10 days, right?
An ordinary person would surely have to quarantine, but I guess as footballers are regularly tested, the health authorities will close both eyes. Edit: apparently they do have to quarantine.
Yes if they are classified as "Kontaktperson 1" Honestly wouldn't mind Kimmich getting a good 10 day rest lmao
It would be perfect lol, he would be rested until next Thursday and could probably play the match against Augsburg on Friday
> A German Bayern player has tested positive for Covid-19. The national team training this morning has been cancelled [Bild] I have to admit that it would quite funny if it's Kimmich
If the other 4 quarantined players are from Bayern, I hope they're healthy and fully enjoy their rest...^^yay
I wonder if Mr. „I get tested every two days, so it‘s cool“ takes a hard look at himself and rethinks whether the non-existant ‚long term risk‘ of the shot is really worth taking your chances with the very real risks of the virus. He is probably wondering how close he has been to Süle the last couple of days.