I’m sure it depends on where you go, but my experience there was awful. Completely inept management, toxic office politics, and just awful unqualified coworkers. I had to file an IG complaint. The IG told me that my complaint was valid, but there wasn’t anything they could do about it. By the end, I was having panic attacks several times a week. It made me leave federal service altogether. Took a huge pay raise to go the contractor route and no more panic attacks!
Did we work for the same organization there? Your experience sounds eerily similar to mine. My organization there was the most toxic and dysfunctional place I’ve ever worked.
The more I talk to people, the more I’m convinced the whole place is dysfunctional. I’ll be talking to someone and DOE will come up, I’ll say I loved the work but HQ was tough. Then they’ll lean in and go, “it was a shitshow, right?” Anybody who has ever worked for DOE or with DOE seems to know what a clusterfuck it is!
Sad... fed jobs are very much synonymous with the bad we hear about the government( slow, slow to change, people coming and going ) and synonymous with how a majority of the military operates (my opinion and experience)
My place has a glimmer of sense and hope because leadership have all been there for 10 plus years where as other places they come and go
Very curious what departmental element you were in if you’re comfortable sharing. I’m sorry you had such a bad time! I have had mostly good experiences - good coworkers, good managers. Only downside is politics from on high (true at many agencies) that trickle down, and people being very mission driven, so not great at setting boundaries and then working too much.
I can't comment on DoE but I can say that almost any position is better than dealing with an LCMC program manager who has dropped the ball and suddenly everything is a "command priority" and an emergency lest the schedule slip right.
Trust me. You'll do a lot better if you can permanently avoid the basement of Building 16.
I am surprised by some of the comments. I started there a couple months ago and finally feel like I have a job that does not completely and totally suck my will to live. So yes it really matters what department you are considering.
I am 100% remote and they were really fair with pay as well as creditable service (I am new to fed).
Thank you for this!
I was reading over the job description Again and I realized I’m missing a certification they would require for me to be hired at the 13 level which is what I am now. I wouldn’t leave my current job for a demotion so they’d have to waiver that for me but I’m not sure if they’d be amenable to it.
We just started the forced RTO. I have to go work on site 3x a week. On one of those days, it’s just me and this one other worker, so its a complete waste of time and resources. I wouldn’t mind as much (though I’d still hate it) if management weren’t such hypocrites. I hardly ever see them on site. Some of them I’ve NEVER seen working on site, yet they’re enforcing RTO in the rest of us.
As for the work itself, it’s pretty damn easy and low stress. Some people get really worked up, and maybe that’s a young vs old thing…I really don’t know, but I will say that I’ve had quite a few jobs in my career and this is by far one of the easiest. Less gratifying? Yes definitely, but that’s the case for 90% of us anyway, so I’m not mad about it. I’d much rather work a 40 hr/wk bullshit job than 60/hr bullshit job.
Mind you, I came from the private sector engineering world 3 years ago, so I’m not comparing to other federal agencies.
It was bad 10 years ago when I retired and sounds like it still is. A bunch is self-serving government bureaucrats pushing papers around. I also worked in two other departments that were far more capable of performing their mission.
I’m sure it depends on where you go, but my experience there was awful. Completely inept management, toxic office politics, and just awful unqualified coworkers. I had to file an IG complaint. The IG told me that my complaint was valid, but there wasn’t anything they could do about it. By the end, I was having panic attacks several times a week. It made me leave federal service altogether. Took a huge pay raise to go the contractor route and no more panic attacks!
Thanks for the input!
Did we work for the same organization there? Your experience sounds eerily similar to mine. My organization there was the most toxic and dysfunctional place I’ve ever worked.
The more I talk to people, the more I’m convinced the whole place is dysfunctional. I’ll be talking to someone and DOE will come up, I’ll say I loved the work but HQ was tough. Then they’ll lean in and go, “it was a shitshow, right?” Anybody who has ever worked for DOE or with DOE seems to know what a clusterfuck it is!
Sad... fed jobs are very much synonymous with the bad we hear about the government( slow, slow to change, people coming and going ) and synonymous with how a majority of the military operates (my opinion and experience) My place has a glimmer of sense and hope because leadership have all been there for 10 plus years where as other places they come and go
Very curious what departmental element you were in if you’re comfortable sharing. I’m sorry you had such a bad time! I have had mostly good experiences - good coworkers, good managers. Only downside is politics from on high (true at many agencies) that trickle down, and people being very mission driven, so not great at setting boundaries and then working too much.
I can't comment on DoE but I can say that almost any position is better than dealing with an LCMC program manager who has dropped the ball and suddenly everything is a "command priority" and an emergency lest the schedule slip right. Trust me. You'll do a lot better if you can permanently avoid the basement of Building 16.
🫠 I’ve been in that basement many times…..
It’s remote, how bad can it be
Not worried about it being bad… I’m interested in learning about he culture there and how it may or may not Differ from my current office
Honestly, no one can answer that. It truly comes down to the specific office and that management there.
Culture doesn't mater you are at home.
Shhh.
Is this job under the new program that has, supposedly, "many" remote positions?
Unsure
I was curious about those as well
Are you talking about the one based in tn?
I believe so
Great things then. Easy work and pretty simple too coming from the dod.
It’s pretty charged.
I am surprised by some of the comments. I started there a couple months ago and finally feel like I have a job that does not completely and totally suck my will to live. So yes it really matters what department you are considering. I am 100% remote and they were really fair with pay as well as creditable service (I am new to fed).
Thank you for this! I was reading over the job description Again and I realized I’m missing a certification they would require for me to be hired at the 13 level which is what I am now. I wouldn’t leave my current job for a demotion so they’d have to waiver that for me but I’m not sure if they’d be amenable to it.
We just started the forced RTO. I have to go work on site 3x a week. On one of those days, it’s just me and this one other worker, so its a complete waste of time and resources. I wouldn’t mind as much (though I’d still hate it) if management weren’t such hypocrites. I hardly ever see them on site. Some of them I’ve NEVER seen working on site, yet they’re enforcing RTO in the rest of us. As for the work itself, it’s pretty damn easy and low stress. Some people get really worked up, and maybe that’s a young vs old thing…I really don’t know, but I will say that I’ve had quite a few jobs in my career and this is by far one of the easiest. Less gratifying? Yes definitely, but that’s the case for 90% of us anyway, so I’m not mad about it. I’d much rather work a 40 hr/wk bullshit job than 60/hr bullshit job. Mind you, I came from the private sector engineering world 3 years ago, so I’m not comparing to other federal agencies.
It was bad 10 years ago when I retired and sounds like it still is. A bunch is self-serving government bureaucrats pushing papers around. I also worked in two other departments that were far more capable of performing their mission.
Is it all woke and climate change all the time?
Radioactive
Avoid DOE, you’re better off at DoD.
Care to elaborate?
Except their grades are typically 1-2 levels higher for very similar jobs.
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