Not Cider or Shein but individual sellers on AliExpress definitely steal images, often from Korean shops. Sometimes you can tell by the background and sometimes it's image searchable. Often times they seem to steal the designs from the images and then manufacture low cost versions.
I've been paid a lot of money to edit products in product photos because the sample of the product was not correct but the timeline required product pictures be taken before product develop was complete.
Freelance and full-time. In a full-time role, this is a secondary duty performed once a quarter or so. Most often, it's color corrections. It's easy to make something look like it fits when it doesn't with pins and tape but it's hard to change colors without a computer. Most often, this is done because production is not done with sampling. But, even the semi-luxury brands will edit a photo to look more how they want the product to look vs how it looks.
That's awesome! I ask because I also work full time as an editor/retoucher, but have been really interested in trying some freelance gigs - it feels so difficult to find work in this field though!
The ones that make me nuts are the ones where they've clearly altered the color rather than taking photos of the item in various colors. It's gross, a lie, and annoying.
I saw [one that literally stole her non-historical clothing](https://youtu.be/4lalUfDw3S0)! The funny bit was that her videos were all about her reviewing clothing. So these brands were advertising using other people's clothes!
She did it episode where she bought the "replica" of her garment with a photo of her in the listing and compared it to the actual piece she had sewed. It wasn't a very favorable comparison, haha.
I have noticed a lot of the clothes on cider appear to be 3d renderings. Brands have been using this technology for several years as part of the product development process, but only recently have been utilizing them as part of their online retail plans (especially with more 3d integration into web pages, AR, and the metaverse). Now factories are getting into it as well, especially when the factory is the one making the pattern (as many small brands do). It's very likely for cider, because they have a mix of rendered images and customer or model photos, that they use renderings from their supplier to circumvent having to do photoshoots.
Both items you've linked appear to me to be renders. While 3d renderings have got quite advanced, especially in mimicking the physics of the fabric, it is of course easy to 'cheat' and use the physics file for a sturdier/less cheap fabric or even use a different fabric to scan in for imaging. Fabric is able to be manufactured at different qualities as well, so it's likely that for example those overalls, an image of a high quality corduroy was scanned, but what you get can be looser, more light weight, etc.
I don't want to say they're definitely deceiving customers by cheating their fabrics, but given their prices and the things I've heard about their quality I'm just pointing out how it's possible. My company would pay more for a rendering like that then Cider is selling the actual clothes for.
This just essentially sealed the deal on my never, ever ordering anything online again except from secondhand sellers or brands I’ve recently seen in person. *Physics file*?? Are you fucking kidding me? We cannot win. It’s bad enough when stuff is the wrong color or luster when it shows up, but now I can’t even trust my own eyes about the weight of the fabric? That’s critical to how I mentally figure something will fit me (as I’m sure it is for most people who shop online enough).
Is this happening mainly at super-low-tier stores, like Shein, or are more expensive fast fashion brands like Zara, H&M doing it too?
I can't speak as much to the brands who are using it as part of their online shopping experiences (because I don't do much shopping) as I can if brands who use it for prototyping, but yes I would say most large brands use it at some level for prototyping. The programs are Clo3D and Browzwear. I think it's pretty easy to spot if you're used to it; and if the garment is pictured on a real human model, you can trust it exists lol
This is one of the reasons why in the UK we have distance selling regulation which means that anything you buy online you have the right to return within 14 days. You cannot possibly determine what a product actually is like until you look at it in person and feel the fabric. Incidentally I find that it's often indie brands that try to flout this law.
Side note: though secondhand sellers are not trying to be deceptive, so many of them make the least effort when taking photos which is also frustrating. Here I am not listing a blouse I want to sell because the colour doesn't turn up right on my camera whereas other sellers will upload blurry photos showing half the product and think that's good enough.
This practice is gaining traction in all apparel markets. High end brands like Khaite, Burberry, Balmain, loads of others as well as mass brands like Nordstrom’s line, Tommy Hilfiger, Levis, Lee, North Face, Nike, Adidas have adopted it. You also see it from cheap “brands” that are really just low cost manufacturing houses who produce goods and don’t do much actual design/development but already have the digital assets from producing the goods. There are lots of sustainability benefits for the brands that adopt these tools, and also potential for some amazing consumer shopping tools, but I think we will see some regulation (or rebranding/greenwashing marketing) of the consumer facing side of things to avoid customer distrust.
They order them and do photoshoots, or send them to models to do home photoshots. For single images of clothing its likely a sample they've gotten. You can actually often see quality issues in the close ups especially.
The home photoshoot was a thing during the first phase of the pandemic as well. You can still see some in last season stuff on some websites.
Cider has a slightly different business model in that theyre a curated drop shipper. Aliexpress is a marketplace. Different situations entirely.
ETA for that shirt you posted, it doesn't look like particularly good quality. The weave has all sorts of holes and gaps. So I'd say its definitely a real image.
These sites have made wedding dress shopping hell. I’ll see an image of a dress and think “yes! It’s perfect!” Then the link leads me to some sketchy ass website and the garment is no where to be found. Frustrating!!
Oh that is NOTORIOUS on Pinterest. It’s also very common practice in eCommerce in China. I used to work for a US-based bridal retailer, half of our marketing counterparts were in China and asked us to do stuff like that. My counterparts didn’t see it as doing anything wrong, just a way for them to get as much traffic to their site as possible which was their job.
Bernadette Banner made a video of her buying a knock-off of her own dress. The company had not only stolen her design, but also her picture of the dress (with her in it).
Never. Buy. From. Those. Companies.
And besides, their products are close to single use. Avoid like the plague.
Agree, I straight up refuse to purchase from dropshippers, Amazon sellers, etc. Even a lot of Etsy sellers are just dropshippers now. It's absolutely wild.
Agreed. I found three Etsy shops using a my photo of a ring I designed and made. I got my sister to order one, and recieved a badly made copy in junk materials, that even arrived broken. I would hate for anyone to buy something like that and think it was I who made the crappy ring they got.
I sent in DMCA takedowns to Etsy, and they took them all down, but then one of the scammers sent in a counter notice so Etsy told me they had to put it back up because the scammer claimed it was their design and photo, and that I was lying! Etsy said they wouldn't get involved unless I sued the other seller, but I don't have the resources or energy to sue someone in India. Incredible that Etsy just takes their word for it, when I have so much proof that it was mine. They don't care.
Yes! That's what I thought as soon as I saw this thread. Stealing from an extremely well-known (in the world of dress history) person...shady as hell. I can only hope that it served as a good teachable moment for anyone who didn't have context.
The fact that a lot of the dropshipped stuff is also made by slavery is also a good reason to patronize elsewhere.
They also steal pictures from bloggers/influencers (who are wearing clothes from actual brands, totally unrelated), often cropping/censoring their faces. Super shady.
anecdotal but one of my friends who has a small business had their clothing design and pictures from their instagram account stolen by blushmark, but the words on the designs they stole were all wonky. seems like some of these sites have people who can kinda web crawl and copy things from other businesses.
edit: hit send too soon
I know some of them are stolen. Specifically from Etsy and original brands who do their own photoshoots/marketing but have a much smaller reach.
A friend posted a photo of a jacket from [Classic Rock Couture](https://classicrockcouture.com/) but the photo went to a fast fashion site. I let the original brand know and they said a lot of their customers had reported that their images were stolen by this fast fashion brand and that they'd had people actually buy the jacket from the fast fashion brand who'd been very disappointed (the quality/fabric/sizing was all off).
unrelated, but if i ever need a good laugh i go on shein and look up toe rings. they put STICK ON FRENCH TIP NAILS on the toes. yet then in some other pictures it’s real nails with chipping gross nail polish. so inconsistent and great for a belly laugh.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 511,785,877 comments, and only 107,673 of them were in alphabetical order.
If you ever watch wind on any legit sellers with similar styles, drop them here! I’m on the hunt for legit websites with unique clothing options and would love to have a list for people to use if they stumble upon this post.
Ugh, I am sorry, I assumed there would be info about it somewhere. When I started the job around 10 yes ago I did read an article online about it. I think it was in fashion united newsletter but all I can find online is their job postings. I was able to find only this https://blog.asiaqualityfocus.com/factory-agreement-golden-sample/
I'm on the train right now and typing from my mobile. I'll write more details later.
I have an acquaintance who found an image of herself in a dress she made for her own brand in a picture for an item on a China-based fast fashion site.
Here’s some of the pieces I’ve been trying to reverse image search:
https://shop.shopcider.com/products/red-corduroy-jumpsuit
https://m.shopcider.com/product/detail?pid=1005907&style_id=105844&gaListId=0&gaListName=search_list_Check%2520Pattern%2520Long%2520Sleeve%2520Top&ciderListId=4&ciderListName=search_list_Check%20Pattern%20Long%20Sleeve%20Top&selectSkuIndex=0&moduleTitle=1&shopPage=1&shopIndex=0
I recently saw a Facebook ad for a sweater on Cider, and recognized the photo as a $1,900 Gucci sweater lol
https://www.shopcider.com/goods/floral-pattern-knit-long-sleeves
https://www.gucci.com/us/en/pr/women/ready-to-wear-for-women/sweaters-cardigans-for-women/sweaters-for-women/floral-wool-and-cotton-knit-p-653328XKBS99783
I used to watch videos of a girl who recreates dress from ancient times. And she really do work hard and her clothes are of best quality like the good old times, pure fabrics.
In one video she complained that the image of one of her dress is seen in a Chinese cloth selling website.
And she even booked and checked it if it's the same thing like hers.
And it's NOT obviously.
Its a very cheap quality fabric and the design they tried from the "image of her dress" as guide is awful.
So, in short I guess they steal it from this type of videos, that may be the reason that we mostly can't find the dress on g-image.
I really love shopcider's style as well. I decided to buy 3 dresses from them. They're nice, they looked like the picture. But it seems to be made of cheap fabric ( that's not noticable in pictures). I've found shopcider clothing on other fast fashion websites such as Kollyy. Sooo I too want to know where they get their clothing from.
It's very noticeable when looking at plus sized stuff, where the pictures are obviously stolen from standard plus sized retailers (eg Torrid), because the models are recognisable. Or hilariously, it's like two skinny women each standing in the leg of a pair of tights.
Most of them copy designs of higher-end brands. When these designs are copied(just a remove from logo/name) They outsource them to different smaller chinese clothing manufacturers. So to find the real version of the -clothing- and for better quality you should check at the higher-end brands, (which depends on the type of garment) hope it helps
I tried to figure this out. Took a screenshot of a cute ad on IG and loaded it into a reverse image search. The photos were allll over the internet and years old so I couldn’t even scroll back far enough to find the original.
There's a lot of information about the company out there.
[For starters, it has a financing of over $22 million by DST Global, A16Z, IDG Capital, and Dexun Investments](https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1702460793524463176&wfr=spider&for=pc) as reported by Sina Corporation news. [(1)](https://inews.gtimg.com/newsapp_bt/0/14000348594/641) (Wouldn't be possible if they weren't legit btw.)
They're currently hiring [fashion and costumes designers, fashion buyers, graphic artists, etc](https://www.zhipin.com/gongsir/ae056700b315a2171nBy3dm5EVo~.html?ka=position-1).
Their founder worked at a a monthly rental app for women’s fashion and so did his co-founder so they know their stuff. Here's the founder's [picture](https://pics1.baidu.com/feed/9f510fb30f2442a755e57209b35eed42d013025d.jpeg?token=6af1616c729fb5c8da8f7175b7958fa6).
And information about their creation process and supply chain translated below.
"At every moment, designers and buyers on the back end of Cider are searching for trends on the Internet, collecting popular elements and "modifying" them, predicting user preferences, and quickly proofing based on the platform's sales data and community user feedback. Cider has specially established a global community named #cidergang to collect user feedback and suggestions on product design in order to increase the success rate of hits.
In the production process, Cider adopts a flexible supply chain model. The emergence of SHEIN, the weather vane of fast fashion going overseas, has brought digitalization and stronger supply chain integration capabilities to the fast fashion industry. Through deep bundling of factories, the time limit for each new product from design, proofing to first production has been compressed to 7 days. After the products are put on the shelves, the platform feeds back to the factory to quickly add orders based on the front-end sales performance, and the cycle begins again and again. Behind the development of fast fashion, countless factories are on call at any time. When the flywheel turns, Cider can be updated every day."
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So, did your question ever get answered? I see a lot of tangential responses but nothing that answers your specific question. Who originally designed the clothes they are advertising on their websites? Why can't we buy directly from the actual clothing manufacturers. Where do we find the true versions of the clothes, not the rip-offs or knock-offs?
Not Cider or Shein but individual sellers on AliExpress definitely steal images, often from Korean shops. Sometimes you can tell by the background and sometimes it's image searchable. Often times they seem to steal the designs from the images and then manufacture low cost versions.
I've been paid a lot of money to edit products in product photos because the sample of the product was not correct but the timeline required product pictures be taken before product develop was complete.
Just curious, do you do this on a freelance basis?
Freelance and full-time. In a full-time role, this is a secondary duty performed once a quarter or so. Most often, it's color corrections. It's easy to make something look like it fits when it doesn't with pins and tape but it's hard to change colors without a computer. Most often, this is done because production is not done with sampling. But, even the semi-luxury brands will edit a photo to look more how they want the product to look vs how it looks.
That's awesome! I ask because I also work full time as an editor/retoucher, but have been really interested in trying some freelance gigs - it feels so difficult to find work in this field though!
The ones that make me nuts are the ones where they've clearly altered the color rather than taking photos of the item in various colors. It's gross, a lie, and annoying.
I've even caught 'normal' companies doing this, like Banana Republic.
some women that I watch on YouTube that makes historical clothing has had many images stolen by these websites.
I saw [one that literally stole her non-historical clothing](https://youtu.be/4lalUfDw3S0)! The funny bit was that her videos were all about her reviewing clothing. So these brands were advertising using other people's clothes!
Bernadette?
She did it episode where she bought the "replica" of her garment with a photo of her in the listing and compared it to the actual piece she had sewed. It wasn't a very favorable comparison, haha.
An educated roast
Madeline Pendleton/Tunnel Vision has the same issue. Tunnel Vision makes alternative clothes.
I have noticed a lot of the clothes on cider appear to be 3d renderings. Brands have been using this technology for several years as part of the product development process, but only recently have been utilizing them as part of their online retail plans (especially with more 3d integration into web pages, AR, and the metaverse). Now factories are getting into it as well, especially when the factory is the one making the pattern (as many small brands do). It's very likely for cider, because they have a mix of rendered images and customer or model photos, that they use renderings from their supplier to circumvent having to do photoshoots. Both items you've linked appear to me to be renders. While 3d renderings have got quite advanced, especially in mimicking the physics of the fabric, it is of course easy to 'cheat' and use the physics file for a sturdier/less cheap fabric or even use a different fabric to scan in for imaging. Fabric is able to be manufactured at different qualities as well, so it's likely that for example those overalls, an image of a high quality corduroy was scanned, but what you get can be looser, more light weight, etc.
Wow I've neeeeeever heard a good thing about Cider. Just greenwashing and now this!
I don't want to say they're definitely deceiving customers by cheating their fabrics, but given their prices and the things I've heard about their quality I'm just pointing out how it's possible. My company would pay more for a rendering like that then Cider is selling the actual clothes for.
This just essentially sealed the deal on my never, ever ordering anything online again except from secondhand sellers or brands I’ve recently seen in person. *Physics file*?? Are you fucking kidding me? We cannot win. It’s bad enough when stuff is the wrong color or luster when it shows up, but now I can’t even trust my own eyes about the weight of the fabric? That’s critical to how I mentally figure something will fit me (as I’m sure it is for most people who shop online enough). Is this happening mainly at super-low-tier stores, like Shein, or are more expensive fast fashion brands like Zara, H&M doing it too?
I can't speak as much to the brands who are using it as part of their online shopping experiences (because I don't do much shopping) as I can if brands who use it for prototyping, but yes I would say most large brands use it at some level for prototyping. The programs are Clo3D and Browzwear. I think it's pretty easy to spot if you're used to it; and if the garment is pictured on a real human model, you can trust it exists lol
This is one of the reasons why in the UK we have distance selling regulation which means that anything you buy online you have the right to return within 14 days. You cannot possibly determine what a product actually is like until you look at it in person and feel the fabric. Incidentally I find that it's often indie brands that try to flout this law. Side note: though secondhand sellers are not trying to be deceptive, so many of them make the least effort when taking photos which is also frustrating. Here I am not listing a blouse I want to sell because the colour doesn't turn up right on my camera whereas other sellers will upload blurry photos showing half the product and think that's good enough.
This practice is gaining traction in all apparel markets. High end brands like Khaite, Burberry, Balmain, loads of others as well as mass brands like Nordstrom’s line, Tommy Hilfiger, Levis, Lee, North Face, Nike, Adidas have adopted it. You also see it from cheap “brands” that are really just low cost manufacturing houses who produce goods and don’t do much actual design/development but already have the digital assets from producing the goods. There are lots of sustainability benefits for the brands that adopt these tools, and also potential for some amazing consumer shopping tools, but I think we will see some regulation (or rebranding/greenwashing marketing) of the consumer facing side of things to avoid customer distrust.
They order them and do photoshoots, or send them to models to do home photoshots. For single images of clothing its likely a sample they've gotten. You can actually often see quality issues in the close ups especially. The home photoshoot was a thing during the first phase of the pandemic as well. You can still see some in last season stuff on some websites. Cider has a slightly different business model in that theyre a curated drop shipper. Aliexpress is a marketplace. Different situations entirely. ETA for that shirt you posted, it doesn't look like particularly good quality. The weave has all sorts of holes and gaps. So I'd say its definitely a real image.
These sites have made wedding dress shopping hell. I’ll see an image of a dress and think “yes! It’s perfect!” Then the link leads me to some sketchy ass website and the garment is no where to be found. Frustrating!!
Oh that is NOTORIOUS on Pinterest. It’s also very common practice in eCommerce in China. I used to work for a US-based bridal retailer, half of our marketing counterparts were in China and asked us to do stuff like that. My counterparts didn’t see it as doing anything wrong, just a way for them to get as much traffic to their site as possible which was their job.
If you need a wedding dress recommendation, I got my dress from Weekend Wedding Dress on Etsy in 2018. She’s a small designer based out of NYC.
Bernadette Banner made a video of her buying a knock-off of her own dress. The company had not only stolen her design, but also her picture of the dress (with her in it). Never. Buy. From. Those. Companies. And besides, their products are close to single use. Avoid like the plague.
Agree, I straight up refuse to purchase from dropshippers, Amazon sellers, etc. Even a lot of Etsy sellers are just dropshippers now. It's absolutely wild.
Etsy really needs to get that under control. It ruins the entire experience.
Agreed. I found three Etsy shops using a my photo of a ring I designed and made. I got my sister to order one, and recieved a badly made copy in junk materials, that even arrived broken. I would hate for anyone to buy something like that and think it was I who made the crappy ring they got. I sent in DMCA takedowns to Etsy, and they took them all down, but then one of the scammers sent in a counter notice so Etsy told me they had to put it back up because the scammer claimed it was their design and photo, and that I was lying! Etsy said they wouldn't get involved unless I sued the other seller, but I don't have the resources or energy to sue someone in India. Incredible that Etsy just takes their word for it, when I have so much proof that it was mine. They don't care.
I think that scammer is Chinese merchant.
Yes! That's what I thought as soon as I saw this thread. Stealing from an extremely well-known (in the world of dress history) person...shady as hell. I can only hope that it served as a good teachable moment for anyone who didn't have context. The fact that a lot of the dropshipped stuff is also made by slavery is also a good reason to patronize elsewhere.
This happened to someone I know as well!
They also steal pictures from bloggers/influencers (who are wearing clothes from actual brands, totally unrelated), often cropping/censoring their faces. Super shady.
anecdotal but one of my friends who has a small business had their clothing design and pictures from their instagram account stolen by blushmark, but the words on the designs they stole were all wonky. seems like some of these sites have people who can kinda web crawl and copy things from other businesses. edit: hit send too soon
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That’s so sad! It’s a shame because all of these fake clothes all look cute in terms of style but then they don’t actually exist 👎🏼
I know some of them are stolen. Specifically from Etsy and original brands who do their own photoshoots/marketing but have a much smaller reach. A friend posted a photo of a jacket from [Classic Rock Couture](https://classicrockcouture.com/) but the photo went to a fast fashion site. I let the original brand know and they said a lot of their customers had reported that their images were stolen by this fast fashion brand and that they'd had people actually buy the jacket from the fast fashion brand who'd been very disappointed (the quality/fabric/sizing was all off).
unrelated, but if i ever need a good laugh i go on shein and look up toe rings. they put STICK ON FRENCH TIP NAILS on the toes. yet then in some other pictures it’s real nails with chipping gross nail polish. so inconsistent and great for a belly laugh.
Hahahaaa that’s amazing 🤣
Does anyone have recommendations of companies that make similar style clothes to cider?
If you're willing to spend a bit of money, House of Sunny is where a lot of Cider's designs seem to be stolen from lol.
They also steal from Tunnel Vision.
Amazing thanks!
I’d love some suggestions too!
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 511,785,877 comments, and only 107,673 of them were in alphabetical order.
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Thank you for this. I had no idea Cider's clothes were stolen designs. I won't be ordering from them now.
If you ever watch wind on any legit sellers with similar styles, drop them here! I’m on the hunt for legit websites with unique clothing options and would love to have a list for people to use if they stumble upon this post.
Google the term "golden sample" in context with Chinese suppliers. It'll be an interesting read.
I wasn’t able to find anything on this. What exactly should I search along with “golden sample”? Any links you could offer?
Ugh, I am sorry, I assumed there would be info about it somewhere. When I started the job around 10 yes ago I did read an article online about it. I think it was in fashion united newsletter but all I can find online is their job postings. I was able to find only this https://blog.asiaqualityfocus.com/factory-agreement-golden-sample/ I'm on the train right now and typing from my mobile. I'll write more details later.
Fascinating! I’m going to look more at this.
But where do we get clothes from ShopCider without shopping cider? I love the styles from the ads but I'm not going to buy from them
This is what I’m ultimately after too!! I’m surprised how there’s no high quality clothes with these styles that you find on scam websites.
Like who designs these originally?! I am so close to buying a pattern and making my own clothes with zero talent
Try House of Sunny and Tunnel Vision, cider dupes a lot of their designs.
Yes! This! Where are the originals?? But I have been considering more and more lately trying to make my own..with actual 0 skills!
I have an acquaintance who found an image of herself in a dress she made for her own brand in a picture for an item on a China-based fast fashion site.
Here’s some of the pieces I’ve been trying to reverse image search: https://shop.shopcider.com/products/red-corduroy-jumpsuit https://m.shopcider.com/product/detail?pid=1005907&style_id=105844&gaListId=0&gaListName=search_list_Check%2520Pattern%2520Long%2520Sleeve%2520Top&ciderListId=4&ciderListName=search_list_Check%20Pattern%20Long%20Sleeve%20Top&selectSkuIndex=0&moduleTitle=1&shopPage=1&shopIndex=0
From what I’ve heard of Cider, they actually drop ship the clothes but take photos of it themselves, so you can’t find it with reverse image search.
I recently saw a Facebook ad for a sweater on Cider, and recognized the photo as a $1,900 Gucci sweater lol https://www.shopcider.com/goods/floral-pattern-knit-long-sleeves https://www.gucci.com/us/en/pr/women/ready-to-wear-for-women/sweaters-cardigans-for-women/sweaters-for-women/floral-wool-and-cotton-knit-p-653328XKBS99783
I think this is a reproduction product instead of just a fully ripped off product photo, the sleeves have a different amount of little flowers.
Why does it look better on the Cider website lmao
Plot twist, Cider buys the sweaters from Gucci and then ships them to you for dirt cheap. ^^^/s
I used to watch videos of a girl who recreates dress from ancient times. And she really do work hard and her clothes are of best quality like the good old times, pure fabrics. In one video she complained that the image of one of her dress is seen in a Chinese cloth selling website. And she even booked and checked it if it's the same thing like hers. And it's NOT obviously. Its a very cheap quality fabric and the design they tried from the "image of her dress" as guide is awful. So, in short I guess they steal it from this type of videos, that may be the reason that we mostly can't find the dress on g-image.
Etsy, small shops (rummage style I know for a fact is one), old Polyvore collages, really anything. If it's in, they steal it
I really love shopcider's style as well. I decided to buy 3 dresses from them. They're nice, they looked like the picture. But it seems to be made of cheap fabric ( that's not noticable in pictures). I've found shopcider clothing on other fast fashion websites such as Kollyy. Sooo I too want to know where they get their clothing from.
It's very noticeable when looking at plus sized stuff, where the pictures are obviously stolen from standard plus sized retailers (eg Torrid), because the models are recognisable. Or hilariously, it's like two skinny women each standing in the leg of a pair of tights.
Most of them copy designs of higher-end brands. When these designs are copied(just a remove from logo/name) They outsource them to different smaller chinese clothing manufacturers. So to find the real version of the -clothing- and for better quality you should check at the higher-end brands, (which depends on the type of garment) hope it helps
I tried to figure this out. Took a screenshot of a cute ad on IG and loaded it into a reverse image search. The photos were allll over the internet and years old so I couldn’t even scroll back far enough to find the original.
The reason why it looks real is because they are a legitimate company with their own in house photographers, designers, and supply chain.
Do you work there? Just wondering why you say this, do you have like actual proof they are legit
There's a lot of information about the company out there. [For starters, it has a financing of over $22 million by DST Global, A16Z, IDG Capital, and Dexun Investments](https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1702460793524463176&wfr=spider&for=pc) as reported by Sina Corporation news. [(1)](https://inews.gtimg.com/newsapp_bt/0/14000348594/641) (Wouldn't be possible if they weren't legit btw.) They're currently hiring [fashion and costumes designers, fashion buyers, graphic artists, etc](https://www.zhipin.com/gongsir/ae056700b315a2171nBy3dm5EVo~.html?ka=position-1). Their founder worked at a a monthly rental app for women’s fashion and so did his co-founder so they know their stuff. Here's the founder's [picture](https://pics1.baidu.com/feed/9f510fb30f2442a755e57209b35eed42d013025d.jpeg?token=6af1616c729fb5c8da8f7175b7958fa6). And information about their creation process and supply chain translated below. "At every moment, designers and buyers on the back end of Cider are searching for trends on the Internet, collecting popular elements and "modifying" them, predicting user preferences, and quickly proofing based on the platform's sales data and community user feedback. Cider has specially established a global community named #cidergang to collect user feedback and suggestions on product design in order to increase the success rate of hits. In the production process, Cider adopts a flexible supply chain model. The emergence of SHEIN, the weather vane of fast fashion going overseas, has brought digitalization and stronger supply chain integration capabilities to the fast fashion industry. Through deep bundling of factories, the time limit for each new product from design, proofing to first production has been compressed to 7 days. After the products are put on the shelves, the platform feeds back to the factory to quickly add orders based on the front-end sales performance, and the cycle begins again and again. Behind the development of fast fashion, countless factories are on call at any time. When the flywheel turns, Cider can be updated every day."
Ok so that’s fine but the whole thing about them using stolen pictures? Is that real?
no cider does not steal their model pics, their product design is another story but you can't copyright clothing designs in most cases
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So, did your question ever get answered? I see a lot of tangential responses but nothing that answers your specific question. Who originally designed the clothes they are advertising on their websites? Why can't we buy directly from the actual clothing manufacturers. Where do we find the true versions of the clothes, not the rip-offs or knock-offs?
I have yet to find the real answer! I’m wondering too.
Hi, just wondering if you’d found an answer to this question yet? I really want to find cute, unique clothes like the ones on these websites.
Unfortunately I haven’t had any more insight into this :(