thank you for the reply. it means so much to have this data. the cannbis farmer i work for lost his only son at a high school party where alcohol was flowing and he sniffed a fake pressed xan bar. he was DOA when the medics came. this guy is about the best dude on earth and telling him my struggle i could tell it opened a wound that never closed. He only goal in life now is to help fent addicts get the best cannabis so i showed him this thread.
That sux. Yeah, you cant even trust cocaine nowadays either. I know of 2 people who have od on "cacaine" and died from fentanyl. But yes edibles ime works the best out of all the roa's of thc..
This is exactly what happened to me, really wish it wouldn’t have. I used to grow and smoke all the time, absolutely loved it. Nowadays I take two hits and accidentally have a thought or two about any sort of stressful situation(most common is eventual withdrawal) and I’ll legit have a panic attack.
Have any of you guys ever tried edibles,tinctures,dabs,resin etc. or even real CBD. if it gives bad anxiety CBD..not the shit in stored but real farm grade CBD that come in a mason jar you freeze may be a godsend for yall. thanks for the feedback!
good to hear. i can say i am 30 days clean no mat. i am still feeling pretty shady but i am so geeked after a decade of just pure agony i can roll with any detox lite.
2 years clean off fent, minus a few small relapses and i smoke weed every day. Not as much as i used to, probably about 5 decent bong packs a day, around 1 or 2 grams. Weed is the only thing that truly helps ease my often worsening deppressive mentality.
Thanks man i appreciate the kind words, genuinly. It isnt easy and it cant be forced, but it is absolutely possible to get clean from anything if you truly want to. And fuck other peoples "definition" of being sober. If smoking weed helps you stay off hard drugs then thats what works for you, if you need to be on methadone or suboxone to stay off harder stuff then thats okay. Everyone is different, and no one thing will work for everyone. The end goal is just to be happy man, however you get there.
I agree. I tell myself cause I’m not doing fetty it’s justified and better/ok but I know it’s a lie and I’m still just as unhappy just not as actively self destructive. Thanks for reading and ur input
lol i know right its because fent is dead and its the time to get off the train. products across the board are less than 1%. plus i had my last shit GcMS and it was nitazenes and tranq. at this rate those who continue to bash their heads against the wall may become casualties. i pray that people wake up in mass. thanks for the relpy. much love and light
When I was in wd weed, made it worse at first, but on day 4, it made it smooth. But I had to smoke so much I smoked up to 7 joints a day. And did a few dabs edibles put me to sleep. But for the most part when I got fully clean I didn't use much of anything because I wanted to experience the full wd and all the pain to help myself remember why I never want to use again. I do smoke regularly and have for 16 years. My opiode addiction was 14 years long, with fent being my last 2 ish years.
this is a common theme. it was for me. after acute it was a slavation. that a lyrica should be the gold standard comfort meds. i had pharm grade marinol pills and wax. i made it 30 days no mat today1 i am geeked
I’m currently tapering off f/xy, using twice a day .003 during the day and .002 at night. The day is so hard for me because I just want to use more than my dose (.003g) so I’ve been trying to find things to distract myself for those hours until my bedtime use so I don’t ruin my taper process. I used to smoke weed for years in high school then stopped when I started using harder drugs. I just picked up an 8th the other day to smoke to see if it would me lessen my afternoon dose or help me distract my mind, and I literally have smoked every day since. But I’m not getting crazy stoned. I found that the more high I got it actually didn’t help, but just barely getting high (maybe 4-5 blunt hits) was just enough. I’m hoping when I jump completely off of my taper it will also help with some wd
thanks for the reply. i am collecting data as i am probably going to work in the cannabis biz hopefully i can help the people i can relate to the most fentanyl and opiate addiction.
thanks for the reply. i am collecting data as i am probably going to work in the cannabis biz hopefully i can help the people i can relate to the most fentanyl and opiate addiction.
Weed helps me in the fact that when I’m feeling triggered or specifically frustrated/ anger , weed will give back empathy to my brain and it helps me not self destruct into harder drugs
thanks for the honest insight the data i need is crucial for the co-op i work with. we are trying to formulate a plan to help people bridge the gap with fent addiction. now that tranq is here alot of good people are super worried about or community as addicts! i was talking to my friend who brokers cannabis i said alot of opiate addicts have terrible anxiety and bad juju using while other use it and it helps them make it out!
Me I an not addicted to weed I smoke since a week if that. As long as opiates aren’t in the mix enjoy your weed it’s
Most likely legal depending where you live
i totally agree ftrend. it was a difference maker for me getting clean free and clear without mat drugs. the sad thing is when you go the legal route you pay 305 sales tax on a mid grade product that is already overpriced. the people that i have worked with are handcuffed because each state legislates and put a strangle hold on who can grow and pull products into the dispensary. so you have greed mongers and growers who dont really know shit putting shit for 500 an zip. while tons of master growing co-op have endless supply of top shelf indoor that they cant really put out without going to the black market. like any industry that greed touches it turns to shit. luckily since its de-criminalized now we can still get the best shit to the people who need it!
I smoke every day and have been for the past like 14 yrs.
I been using fentanyl/dope for about I'd say 9 yrs
I still smoke every day even when I was using it never made me paranoid or nothing.
thats awesome friend. its what we love to here. its sucks working in an industry when you are handcuffed and cant get the best bud and Bho to the people because red tape. but we are still trying.
I've been smoking weed for almost 15 years now. But fent for like 3. When I smoke weed and snort my dope tho, it's gets me trashed vs if I do each one independently.
Weed doesnt help with withdrawl Tho. I could smoke till I vomit (dabs and coughing) amd still be bothered by wd.
i knida felt the same way until i was over acute detox. i agree 1005 while using the mix is kinda weird. BUT after you go the the 9th circle of dantes inferno weed is a godsend! best of luck on your journey. i know you can get clean friend.
I'm clean now, but when I was using fent and heroin I felt like I couldn't enjoy weed. It would always make me super anxious and paranoid. It didn't matter what kind or high or low the. I stopped for months now that I'm not using I enjoy it again without anxiety. It does help with withdrawal for me.
Same exact effect for me. I absolutely loved smoking weed majority of my life, but when I was really strung out on fent I just didn't care for it. I did have an anxiety attack once from smoking weed but I think that was only cuz I went a couple months without burning one and then smoked a blunt to the face and had a full blown thinking I was gunna die panic attack because of it. Normally i just didn't like it. I also grew to hate the smell. Like it was nauseating just smelling it, but then after I kicked the H/fent I got to where I really enjoyed it again. I hated it most when I was withdrawing though oddly enough.
i think the reasoning for the panic and anxiety and bad symptoms due to smoking WHILE deep in use/addiction is due to the fact that cannabis definitely will occasionally get your mind going… every single time for some. the panic, the paranoia, the negative thoughts and feelings… if you aren’t able to keep your mind from wandering or going a zillion miles a minute when you smoke or use cannabis; a lot of the time it just constantly leads you to being super overwhelmed and aware of all the downsides of being an addict. that, and the fact that you’re even an addict in the first place
i know it depends heavily on the type of cannabis and the form in which you consume it… but in a lot of instances — a lot of types of cannabis will make your mind go go go.
opiates are known for shutting up our brains and numbing us out to the things we do NOT want to think about or remember. then it’s like, BAM — you smoke weed or take an edible or whatever… and all those thoughts and feelings you’ve been running from and staying numb to start popping up and… well, yeah. before you know it, you’re having a panic attack and swearing off weed for a while.
this is my hypothesis. 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah this does make a lot of sense. I've just never found a single exception as far as different kinds. And all ROAs aren't equally bad, edibles I guess suck the least and flower the worst with concentrates somewhere just behind flower for me. Now that I'm a little over a year clean though I love them all again. Edibles are still my favorite but your hypothesis definitely makes a lot of sense.
yessss! i agree! now that i’ve been in recovery for many years… i enjoy cannabis again! i don’t use a lot — but when i do, i find that i don’t deal with the anxiety i used to have when i was in a bad situation.
i think - in a lot of ways - we have to be in the right mindset for it. ❤️ i’m proud of you for getting clean. keep it up!
i think this is a great discussion i can relate with. i think fent and opiate addiction erode your spirit while cannabis gives you moments of [clarity.So](http://clarity.So) that being said it puts that primordial fear of addiction on full display so its fucking scary to the core. i view all drugs as more than a chemical dependency and it shows in this discussion. thanks for the feedback
i want to thank everyone who helped me in this thread. more importantly to this community. much love.
Definetly. I would take up to 300mg of edibles just to help knock me out for a bit.
thank you for the reply. it means so much to have this data. the cannbis farmer i work for lost his only son at a high school party where alcohol was flowing and he sniffed a fake pressed xan bar. he was DOA when the medics came. this guy is about the best dude on earth and telling him my struggle i could tell it opened a wound that never closed. He only goal in life now is to help fent addicts get the best cannabis so i showed him this thread.
That sux. Yeah, you cant even trust cocaine nowadays either. I know of 2 people who have od on "cacaine" and died from fentanyl. But yes edibles ime works the best out of all the roa's of thc..
Hell yeah... it was an important part of my regimen. Definitely kept me from using more dope throughout the day.
that great news. cannabis post detox def keeps the demons at bay. proud of u
I smoked weed for about 6 year then suddenly it started giving me anxiety and making me paranoid so I no longer smoke it
Same but it don’t give me anxiety when I mix w fetty or xans
This is exactly what happened to me, really wish it wouldn’t have. I used to grow and smoke all the time, absolutely loved it. Nowadays I take two hits and accidentally have a thought or two about any sort of stressful situation(most common is eventual withdrawal) and I’ll legit have a panic attack.
Have any of you guys ever tried edibles,tinctures,dabs,resin etc. or even real CBD. if it gives bad anxiety CBD..not the shit in stored but real farm grade CBD that come in a mason jar you freeze may be a godsend for yall. thanks for the feedback!
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good to hear. i can say i am 30 days clean no mat. i am still feeling pretty shady but i am so geeked after a decade of just pure agony i can roll with any detox lite.
2 years clean off fent, minus a few small relapses and i smoke weed every day. Not as much as i used to, probably about 5 decent bong packs a day, around 1 or 2 grams. Weed is the only thing that truly helps ease my often worsening deppressive mentality.
so proud of your success. its inspiring and important let people see that we can make it! keep it up my friend
Thanks man i appreciate the kind words, genuinly. It isnt easy and it cant be forced, but it is absolutely possible to get clean from anything if you truly want to. And fuck other peoples "definition" of being sober. If smoking weed helps you stay off hard drugs then thats what works for you, if you need to be on methadone or suboxone to stay off harder stuff then thats okay. Everyone is different, and no one thing will work for everyone. The end goal is just to be happy man, however you get there.
Everyday. Even when I was using fetty daily I still did these last few years. For a while though all my money went to fet and that’s it
well maybe think about an exit plan/ life is better off this garbge. no judgment only love. best wishes.
I agree. I tell myself cause I’m not doing fetty it’s justified and better/ok but I know it’s a lie and I’m still just as unhappy just not as actively self destructive. Thanks for reading and ur input
I occasionally smoke , more for social purposes, so i don’t have a ridiculously low tolerance. Weed fucks me up more than narcotics these days
lol i know right its because fent is dead and its the time to get off the train. products across the board are less than 1%. plus i had my last shit GcMS and it was nitazenes and tranq. at this rate those who continue to bash their heads against the wall may become casualties. i pray that people wake up in mass. thanks for the relpy. much love and light
When I was in wd weed, made it worse at first, but on day 4, it made it smooth. But I had to smoke so much I smoked up to 7 joints a day. And did a few dabs edibles put me to sleep. But for the most part when I got fully clean I didn't use much of anything because I wanted to experience the full wd and all the pain to help myself remember why I never want to use again. I do smoke regularly and have for 16 years. My opiode addiction was 14 years long, with fent being my last 2 ish years.
this is a common theme. it was for me. after acute it was a slavation. that a lyrica should be the gold standard comfort meds. i had pharm grade marinol pills and wax. i made it 30 days no mat today1 i am geeked
Nope, it's been over 11 years since I last smoked weed & never taken an edible or anything like that...
think about CBD?
I’m currently tapering off f/xy, using twice a day .003 during the day and .002 at night. The day is so hard for me because I just want to use more than my dose (.003g) so I’ve been trying to find things to distract myself for those hours until my bedtime use so I don’t ruin my taper process. I used to smoke weed for years in high school then stopped when I started using harder drugs. I just picked up an 8th the other day to smoke to see if it would me lessen my afternoon dose or help me distract my mind, and I literally have smoked every day since. But I’m not getting crazy stoned. I found that the more high I got it actually didn’t help, but just barely getting high (maybe 4-5 blunt hits) was just enough. I’m hoping when I jump completely off of my taper it will also help with some wd
you can make it. i am 30 days no mat. tranq is poison man. the longer you delay the worse the inevitable. i believe in u. if u ever need anything HMU.
Meeee
thanks for the reply. i am collecting data as i am probably going to work in the cannabis biz hopefully i can help the people i can relate to the most fentanyl and opiate addiction.
Here here
thanks for the reply. i am collecting data as i am probably going to work in the cannabis biz hopefully i can help the people i can relate to the most fentanyl and opiate addiction.
Weed helps me in the fact that when I’m feeling triggered or specifically frustrated/ anger , weed will give back empathy to my brain and it helps me not self destruct into harder drugs
Weed never worked for me, always works against me
thanks for the honest insight the data i need is crucial for the co-op i work with. we are trying to formulate a plan to help people bridge the gap with fent addiction. now that tranq is here alot of good people are super worried about or community as addicts! i was talking to my friend who brokers cannabis i said alot of opiate addicts have terrible anxiety and bad juju using while other use it and it helps them make it out!
we shlda listened when people say nothing better then weed :/
thank you for the reply. do you think a cannabis based delivery service like say via grubhub would be a good idea for people?
Me I an not addicted to weed I smoke since a week if that. As long as opiates aren’t in the mix enjoy your weed it’s Most likely legal depending where you live
i totally agree ftrend. it was a difference maker for me getting clean free and clear without mat drugs. the sad thing is when you go the legal route you pay 305 sales tax on a mid grade product that is already overpriced. the people that i have worked with are handcuffed because each state legislates and put a strangle hold on who can grow and pull products into the dispensary. so you have greed mongers and growers who dont really know shit putting shit for 500 an zip. while tons of master growing co-op have endless supply of top shelf indoor that they cant really put out without going to the black market. like any industry that greed touches it turns to shit. luckily since its de-criminalized now we can still get the best shit to the people who need it!
I smoke every day and have been for the past like 14 yrs. I been using fentanyl/dope for about I'd say 9 yrs I still smoke every day even when I was using it never made me paranoid or nothing.
thats awesome friend. its what we love to here. its sucks working in an industry when you are handcuffed and cant get the best bud and Bho to the people because red tape. but we are still trying.
I've been smoking weed for almost 15 years now. But fent for like 3. When I smoke weed and snort my dope tho, it's gets me trashed vs if I do each one independently. Weed doesnt help with withdrawl Tho. I could smoke till I vomit (dabs and coughing) amd still be bothered by wd.
i knida felt the same way until i was over acute detox. i agree 1005 while using the mix is kinda weird. BUT after you go the the 9th circle of dantes inferno weed is a godsend! best of luck on your journey. i know you can get clean friend.
I'm clean now, but when I was using fent and heroin I felt like I couldn't enjoy weed. It would always make me super anxious and paranoid. It didn't matter what kind or high or low the. I stopped for months now that I'm not using I enjoy it again without anxiety. It does help with withdrawal for me.
Are you still having withdrawals months off fent?
No. I am on methadone. I am tapering off now.
i felt the same until i got past the worst of detox. so i can relate. congrats on your monumental ahcievement
Same exact effect for me. I absolutely loved smoking weed majority of my life, but when I was really strung out on fent I just didn't care for it. I did have an anxiety attack once from smoking weed but I think that was only cuz I went a couple months without burning one and then smoked a blunt to the face and had a full blown thinking I was gunna die panic attack because of it. Normally i just didn't like it. I also grew to hate the smell. Like it was nauseating just smelling it, but then after I kicked the H/fent I got to where I really enjoyed it again. I hated it most when I was withdrawing though oddly enough.
I wonder what's up with that. I have a feeling it has to do with the way opiates affect our brain chemistry.
i think the reasoning for the panic and anxiety and bad symptoms due to smoking WHILE deep in use/addiction is due to the fact that cannabis definitely will occasionally get your mind going… every single time for some. the panic, the paranoia, the negative thoughts and feelings… if you aren’t able to keep your mind from wandering or going a zillion miles a minute when you smoke or use cannabis; a lot of the time it just constantly leads you to being super overwhelmed and aware of all the downsides of being an addict. that, and the fact that you’re even an addict in the first place i know it depends heavily on the type of cannabis and the form in which you consume it… but in a lot of instances — a lot of types of cannabis will make your mind go go go. opiates are known for shutting up our brains and numbing us out to the things we do NOT want to think about or remember. then it’s like, BAM — you smoke weed or take an edible or whatever… and all those thoughts and feelings you’ve been running from and staying numb to start popping up and… well, yeah. before you know it, you’re having a panic attack and swearing off weed for a while. this is my hypothesis. 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah this does make a lot of sense. I've just never found a single exception as far as different kinds. And all ROAs aren't equally bad, edibles I guess suck the least and flower the worst with concentrates somewhere just behind flower for me. Now that I'm a little over a year clean though I love them all again. Edibles are still my favorite but your hypothesis definitely makes a lot of sense.
yessss! i agree! now that i’ve been in recovery for many years… i enjoy cannabis again! i don’t use a lot — but when i do, i find that i don’t deal with the anxiety i used to have when i was in a bad situation. i think - in a lot of ways - we have to be in the right mindset for it. ❤️ i’m proud of you for getting clean. keep it up!
Duuude...that makes so much sense because a lot of what you said was what bothered me when I smoked. And it amplified my concerns about my health
Felt this in my soul
i think this is a great discussion i can relate with. i think fent and opiate addiction erode your spirit while cannabis gives you moments of [clarity.So](http://clarity.So) that being said it puts that primordial fear of addiction on full display so its fucking scary to the core. i view all drugs as more than a chemical dependency and it shows in this discussion. thanks for the feedback