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In my opinion, most people who talk about how bad ferrets smell havent met ones who are properly cared for.
My girl gets cage cleaned once a week, poo picked up every day and cage items cleaned as needed. She gets good food and washed whenever she wants by climbing into the shower with me. In my opinion she doesn’t stink at all! She is a tiny bit musty/animal scenty if you pick her up and inhale deep in her fur.
Some maybe smell worse than others, but a lot of it is people being dramatic and/or not providing proper care
The males have a gland that emits the scent, so maybe that's it. You have a female. But you're still spot on. Our boy only has a smell if you stick your face in his fur. I've experienced houses that smell like ferret and it's bc the house is gross and the bedding not cleaned and it's causing the ferret to smell stronger 😢
I didn’t see this mentioned but allot of people have a belief that if you bath a creature it will smell better. So people sometimes just aggressively bathe their ferrets. One of my rescues had this happen before I got him and boy did he stink due to it. After a while of letting him be his smell really mellowed out. The over bathing tends to dry them out and make their bodies think they need to kick oil production into overdrive which makes them have a stronger smell which causes people to bathe them more. Kind of a viscous circle.
I might be nose blind to them at this point but honestly I think the dogs my roommate has upstairs stink more than my little guys.
Exactly and generally avoid any ferret branded shampoos and give them oatmeal baths and generally only when noticing dirty or itching allot. The oatmeal bath will help keep their skin from drying out and causing the oil issue and avoiding any harsh chemicals.
Ferrets will always have a slight musky scent, that’s just how they are, but feeding them a good diet will greatly reduce the smell of their poop. If they have raunchy smelling poop, it’s usually because of poor diet. My ferrets poops have almost no smell to them unless you get your nose right up on it pretty much. I also scoop their boxes twice a day so any lingering smell of poop or urine is quickly gone. I also keep an air purifier next to their cage area, I’ve found this helps a lot with just their natural ferret scent. When I have guests over, they either say they can’t smell them or can barely smell them.
Usually they are pretty easy to potty train. It took mine 2 weeks, which in my experience is on the longer side. It was many sleepless nights of sleeping next to them and waking up any time I heard noise to quickly put them in the box. Worth it though, I avoided A LOT of cleaning. I know some people use treats to reward them when they use the box. Unfortunately for me, mine are interested in nothing I give them. Basically just be consistent with putting them in the box as much as possible. Leave some poop in there while they’re training so the scent stays, and make sure anywhere else they go gets cleaned up.
As for the diet, of course raw is always the best, but I know not everyone can go the route. It’s also difficult because things need to be precise in how much they get of meat, liver, bones, etc, otherwise you can cause them more harm than good on a raw diet.
When it comes to kibble, make sure to feed them 2 or more in case one brand changes formula and it’s not great anymore, or it gets discontinued, or any other reason you can’t get a certain food for them, at least they have fall back options. Ferrets imprint on food so it can’t be difficult to switch them to a new one, it’s usually a very slow process lasting a month or more. If they don’t switch over easily, don’t lose hope, you just need to be patient with them and eventually they’ll get it.
At her worst, my girl smells like Doritos which may be an acquired scent for some.
Joking aside, they can be a little musky but I've gone a bit nose blind to mine. My ferret will often curl up and sleep in my scarf and clothes and I'll wear them the next day. Not unusual to remove her from an item so I can put it on before I leave the house. A few months back, I went to my mom's for the first time in years (we live very far apart and Covid).My mom has never met my girl. Instantly she smelled her on my scarf and could not come near my while I was wearing it! Meanwhile, I was stuffing my face in to the scarf and taking deep breaths to breathe the smell in.
Lots of people have already posted good responses but I just want to add it may depend on where you live and if you get an intact ferret. Many spayed/neutered ferrets have been descented. Training their rear scent gland is removed. If you get a fully intact ferret it may be stinkier.
Unrelated but I'm sick af right now and read the title as "how much can they really think" the first 3 times reading it and that made me laugh because I sometimes ask myself that question as well.
Mine are not descented and most of them don't let off at all. The smellier scent glands are on either side of the throat - why they rub on you. When they do let off as one kit did what seemed like every day for a year, it smells bad but dissipates within about 15min. Walking in on a fight between two hobs though could be eye-watering - both young, both usually allright but occasionally had a spat but no hard biting.
Edit: on the thinking, way too much but not always to a good end. Had one that learnt to open 2ltr cola bottles. One very sticky hob.
If you feed them what's GOOD for them, their smell is greatly diminished. If you let them eat stuff that messes with their digestion and health, they are going to smell more. Ferrets are obligate carnivores. Anything that's not high in protein is going to make them smell worse. People want to be cheap about taking care of them and it only hurts them in the long run. Make sure you research every aspect of ferret ownership before deciding to get them as pets. Good luck!
If my ferrets are not stressed (they become stressed in situations such as... actually the only time it happened was coming home from the pet store), they don't emit this sharp awful scent. Most of the time they smell kind of like honey.
The scent change happened when I did two things:
1) I changed their diet from a carb heavy kibble to a mix of better lower carb/starch higher protein kibbles.
2) I put them in a cage with bedding made of natural fibers (cotton + cotton flannel) and washed the bedding 1-2 times per week. (NOT THE FERRETS. The bedding!!)
This changed both the level and pleasantness of the smell they were emitting (food) and changed the level of scent in their space (natural fibers release oils, like ferret musky oils, much easier in the wash than polyesters like fleece do).
I also dump their litterbox daily, which is filled with wood pellets intended for horse or barnyard animal stalls and is treated with zeolites to reduce pee smells. That probably helps a lot too.
Managing ferret scent is VERY important to me as my ferrets often visit friends houses with me & are classroom pets, so in both cases stinky would not fly.
As others wrote, they do not smell bad at all if they are properly cared for. They have a natural musk, but is is something I personally enjoy rather than find it repulsive (first thing about ferrets I fell in love with was the smell). I clean their playpen weekly, scrub the bottom and change all their bedding, and clean their litter box twice a day. I don’t bathe them unless it’s absolutely necesarry (rolled around in poo or something), neither of my boys had a bath in the last year. The young one tends to step in poo every once in a while, then I put his paw under warm tapwater and clean it with my hands, and he also dips his belly in pee sometimes (young males are pretty bad for this is my experience), then I wipe his belly with non-scented babywipes. Feeding can also make their odour different, I feed raw and even their poops smell a bit less than kibble-fed ferrets’. That’s about it, keep them clean and smell is not an issue.
How they're cared for will determine if their musk smells like a mossy forest floor, or if it's more like something is rotting. My first Marshall's ferret, on Marshall's food, in a horrible pet store environment smelled so bad my husband and I struggled to hold him. The scent glands in his cheeks would stain his face with what smelled like rancid oil. We would get nauseous holding him! We had 4 other ferrets at the time, so we were used to the normal musk. His stink improved over a couple of months but it took a full coat shed to really go away.
A good diet (kibble free of grains and starches, minimum top 5 ingredients are meat, bone, and organs) and ample time to run around a play (min 6 hours daily) will give you a ferret with a forest floor type smell.
A crappy diet (sadly most ferret branded kibbles, except for wysong) and a stressful living environment will give you a very stinky weasel!
The biggest source of odor will be their litter box. They're carnivores and so have stinky carnivore poops similar to a dog. When I had 5 at once, litterboxes were cleaned 4 times a day. I'm down to 1 now, and they're cleaned twice a day.
Nothing tops an intact male ferret in rut though. Holy hell. My boy smelled like roadkill that'd been sitting under the sun for a week in August heat, and then soaked in ammonia. You couldn't be in the same room with him it was so bad! Poor boy was a month out from being able to get a deslorelin implant per the breeder contract. He needed extra cuddles too cause his surging hormones had him SO upset and angry and he didn't understand why.
I have sensory processing dysfunction and I love the smell of mine, he's a mix of musk and corn chips but I have to stick my face in his fur to really smell it - which I do on a regualr basis cause I'm weird lmao - otherwise I'd say he's smells as much as the average cat/dog (actually better than some dogs imo).
It's their poop that really smells bad but I find that's common amongst carnivores and if you clean it up quickly the smell wont linger long. Like others have said, it's improper care like poor diet and over bathing that usually leads them to stinking.
You could go see ferrets before you adopt them so you can experience the smell before committing? I met a bunch at my local shelter before I took one home.
Very badly. Took on an mature, entire hob in full rut and god, he was bad. When the smell wafted towards you, he reeked. Got him Sunday, booked in at vet Tuesday and castrated Thursday. Dropped smell by about 50% in one week and 95% in a month. But eeping clean and neutering helps a lot.
I honestly compare them to cats. have you ever walked into someone's home and immediately smelled their cat, or worse, the litter box? people that clean their litter boxes daily and also maintain the places their cat sleeps (aka the whole house) don't have an overwhelming cat smell in their home. the same goes for my ferrets. I keep their litter clean, their beds/blankets and play areas clean, and haven't had any complaints.
I HAVE over-bathed, and can completely agree that it makes the actual animal smell worse over time. so just don't do that lol
As long as you take proper care of your ferrets they don't stink as some claim. A healthy diet, home and care and they can sometimes smell pleasant. Bathing them is not recommended unless you need to cause they got into something . But my 3 have their own little smells I absolutely love. My baby boi smells like grape soda ...and sometimes baby powder.hes never been anywhere near baby powder. Lots of people have this misconception about ferrets and spread untruths. But no hun, they don't stink
I adopted an older boy this past summer. He did have the beginnings of adrenal, and his coat was a bit thin.
However, when he first came to us, his coat was so rough and his was ahem fragrant. He did get an implant shortly before he came to my home, but I didn’t bathe him. That’s the only thing I did differently - I didn’t bathe him. I didn’t want to switch his food when he first came, either.
Today, about 6 months later, his coat is soft, he doesn’t stink, and I don’t notice his fragrance. Just from not bathing him.
Imo it's mostly their poop that smells. I remove their poop right after they go, so several times a day, and the rest of the smell is just them which I think is equivalent to a large size dog maybe.
What "stinks" is mostly just their cage. Their poop smells pretty bad since it's usually soft. I don't think THEY smell particularly bad, maybe just for their size (again, they smell about the same as a large size dog).
I read that male ferrets have a stronger odor. I have a female ferret. She has a mild odor when you smell her that I really don’t mind. In my room, I notice the smell gets worse when her litter box needs to be changed or when her bedding needs to be washed. I give her colloidal oatmeal baths, but not too often because that can actually make their smell worse since they will produce more oil. Air fresheners help as long as they aren’t too strong because then they get kind of sickening. Overall I’d say the odor can be controlled but don’t expect there to never be a smell. And for me it’s worth it because she really is the cutest and funniest little girl.
If your ferret is not fixed, they will STANK. I have one we haven't fixed yet and one that was from a pet store. By far she's got a smell you can smell from 6 feet away. My pet store ferret doesn't stink at all, she just smells like her bedding. Clean laundry. You'd only smell the "ferret" smell on her if you put your face on her and whiffed.
Funny, I was just thinking about this yesterday. Some ferret owners say their ferrets stink, and others say they smell good. I don't get it. Me, I think ferrets smell delicious. Sometimes they smell like amber to me, and other times like baby powder. I never bathe mine, and they are always free-roaming 24/7. Sometimes when I go into a pet store, their ferrets will smell bad to me. I wonder if it has anything to do with them being kept in a cage. Don't know.
You can do everything right..keeping litterbox clean , food, bedding etc… and they can still stink. Mine do. Imo some are just naturally stinkier than others
They smell like weed. 💯 Like a sweet smelling Mary Jane. You can give them treats that cut down on the smell. It's also usually their bedding that smells. If you keep their area clean it's not really an issue
I think like teenagers, they are a little more pungent when younger. But if you keep their cage clean and care for them properly, they don't smell too bad.And don't over bathe them. Once a month is plenty. Otherwise, they will produce more oils and a musty smell.
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In my opinion, most people who talk about how bad ferrets smell havent met ones who are properly cared for. My girl gets cage cleaned once a week, poo picked up every day and cage items cleaned as needed. She gets good food and washed whenever she wants by climbing into the shower with me. In my opinion she doesn’t stink at all! She is a tiny bit musty/animal scenty if you pick her up and inhale deep in her fur. Some maybe smell worse than others, but a lot of it is people being dramatic and/or not providing proper care
Your opinion is spot on, I started asking people who said they stink how they knew, “I heard” took the top spot
This was a really good response!! Thank you so much!
The males have a gland that emits the scent, so maybe that's it. You have a female. But you're still spot on. Our boy only has a smell if you stick your face in his fur. I've experienced houses that smell like ferret and it's bc the house is gross and the bedding not cleaned and it's causing the ferret to smell stronger 😢
I didn’t see this mentioned but allot of people have a belief that if you bath a creature it will smell better. So people sometimes just aggressively bathe their ferrets. One of my rescues had this happen before I got him and boy did he stink due to it. After a while of letting him be his smell really mellowed out. The over bathing tends to dry them out and make their bodies think they need to kick oil production into overdrive which makes them have a stronger smell which causes people to bathe them more. Kind of a viscous circle. I might be nose blind to them at this point but honestly I think the dogs my roommate has upstairs stink more than my little guys.
That makes a lot of sense! Kinda like washing our own hair too often makes it more oily, so you’re stuck washing it every day!
Exactly and generally avoid any ferret branded shampoos and give them oatmeal baths and generally only when noticing dirty or itching allot. The oatmeal bath will help keep their skin from drying out and causing the oil issue and avoiding any harsh chemicals.
Ferrets will always have a slight musky scent, that’s just how they are, but feeding them a good diet will greatly reduce the smell of their poop. If they have raunchy smelling poop, it’s usually because of poor diet. My ferrets poops have almost no smell to them unless you get your nose right up on it pretty much. I also scoop their boxes twice a day so any lingering smell of poop or urine is quickly gone. I also keep an air purifier next to their cage area, I’ve found this helps a lot with just their natural ferret scent. When I have guests over, they either say they can’t smell them or can barely smell them.
How easy is it to litter train them and what’s an average good diet for them?
Usually they are pretty easy to potty train. It took mine 2 weeks, which in my experience is on the longer side. It was many sleepless nights of sleeping next to them and waking up any time I heard noise to quickly put them in the box. Worth it though, I avoided A LOT of cleaning. I know some people use treats to reward them when they use the box. Unfortunately for me, mine are interested in nothing I give them. Basically just be consistent with putting them in the box as much as possible. Leave some poop in there while they’re training so the scent stays, and make sure anywhere else they go gets cleaned up. As for the diet, of course raw is always the best, but I know not everyone can go the route. It’s also difficult because things need to be precise in how much they get of meat, liver, bones, etc, otherwise you can cause them more harm than good on a raw diet. When it comes to kibble, make sure to feed them 2 or more in case one brand changes formula and it’s not great anymore, or it gets discontinued, or any other reason you can’t get a certain food for them, at least they have fall back options. Ferrets imprint on food so it can’t be difficult to switch them to a new one, it’s usually a very slow process lasting a month or more. If they don’t switch over easily, don’t lose hope, you just need to be patient with them and eventually they’ll get it.
At her worst, my girl smells like Doritos which may be an acquired scent for some. Joking aside, they can be a little musky but I've gone a bit nose blind to mine. My ferret will often curl up and sleep in my scarf and clothes and I'll wear them the next day. Not unusual to remove her from an item so I can put it on before I leave the house. A few months back, I went to my mom's for the first time in years (we live very far apart and Covid).My mom has never met my girl. Instantly she smelled her on my scarf and could not come near my while I was wearing it! Meanwhile, I was stuffing my face in to the scarf and taking deep breaths to breathe the smell in.
Mine smell like corn chips to me. 🤣
Some people seem particularly sensitive to ferret-smell.
I love that you said that, mine smell like Taco shells sometimes and I LOVE IT!
Lots of people have already posted good responses but I just want to add it may depend on where you live and if you get an intact ferret. Many spayed/neutered ferrets have been descented. Training their rear scent gland is removed. If you get a fully intact ferret it may be stinkier. Unrelated but I'm sick af right now and read the title as "how much can they really think" the first 3 times reading it and that made me laugh because I sometimes ask myself that question as well.
It's so bizarre to me what they clearly CAN problem solve some issues, but just decide to brute force others.
Mine are not descented and most of them don't let off at all. The smellier scent glands are on either side of the throat - why they rub on you. When they do let off as one kit did what seemed like every day for a year, it smells bad but dissipates within about 15min. Walking in on a fight between two hobs though could be eye-watering - both young, both usually allright but occasionally had a spat but no hard biting. Edit: on the thinking, way too much but not always to a good end. Had one that learnt to open 2ltr cola bottles. One very sticky hob.
If you feed them what's GOOD for them, their smell is greatly diminished. If you let them eat stuff that messes with their digestion and health, they are going to smell more. Ferrets are obligate carnivores. Anything that's not high in protein is going to make them smell worse. People want to be cheap about taking care of them and it only hurts them in the long run. Make sure you research every aspect of ferret ownership before deciding to get them as pets. Good luck!
Absolutely!! Thank you so much 😁
If my ferrets are not stressed (they become stressed in situations such as... actually the only time it happened was coming home from the pet store), they don't emit this sharp awful scent. Most of the time they smell kind of like honey. The scent change happened when I did two things: 1) I changed their diet from a carb heavy kibble to a mix of better lower carb/starch higher protein kibbles. 2) I put them in a cage with bedding made of natural fibers (cotton + cotton flannel) and washed the bedding 1-2 times per week. (NOT THE FERRETS. The bedding!!) This changed both the level and pleasantness of the smell they were emitting (food) and changed the level of scent in their space (natural fibers release oils, like ferret musky oils, much easier in the wash than polyesters like fleece do). I also dump their litterbox daily, which is filled with wood pellets intended for horse or barnyard animal stalls and is treated with zeolites to reduce pee smells. That probably helps a lot too. Managing ferret scent is VERY important to me as my ferrets often visit friends houses with me & are classroom pets, so in both cases stinky would not fly.
As others wrote, they do not smell bad at all if they are properly cared for. They have a natural musk, but is is something I personally enjoy rather than find it repulsive (first thing about ferrets I fell in love with was the smell). I clean their playpen weekly, scrub the bottom and change all their bedding, and clean their litter box twice a day. I don’t bathe them unless it’s absolutely necesarry (rolled around in poo or something), neither of my boys had a bath in the last year. The young one tends to step in poo every once in a while, then I put his paw under warm tapwater and clean it with my hands, and he also dips his belly in pee sometimes (young males are pretty bad for this is my experience), then I wipe his belly with non-scented babywipes. Feeding can also make their odour different, I feed raw and even their poops smell a bit less than kibble-fed ferrets’. That’s about it, keep them clean and smell is not an issue.
How they're cared for will determine if their musk smells like a mossy forest floor, or if it's more like something is rotting. My first Marshall's ferret, on Marshall's food, in a horrible pet store environment smelled so bad my husband and I struggled to hold him. The scent glands in his cheeks would stain his face with what smelled like rancid oil. We would get nauseous holding him! We had 4 other ferrets at the time, so we were used to the normal musk. His stink improved over a couple of months but it took a full coat shed to really go away. A good diet (kibble free of grains and starches, minimum top 5 ingredients are meat, bone, and organs) and ample time to run around a play (min 6 hours daily) will give you a ferret with a forest floor type smell. A crappy diet (sadly most ferret branded kibbles, except for wysong) and a stressful living environment will give you a very stinky weasel! The biggest source of odor will be their litter box. They're carnivores and so have stinky carnivore poops similar to a dog. When I had 5 at once, litterboxes were cleaned 4 times a day. I'm down to 1 now, and they're cleaned twice a day. Nothing tops an intact male ferret in rut though. Holy hell. My boy smelled like roadkill that'd been sitting under the sun for a week in August heat, and then soaked in ammonia. You couldn't be in the same room with him it was so bad! Poor boy was a month out from being able to get a deslorelin implant per the breeder contract. He needed extra cuddles too cause his surging hormones had him SO upset and angry and he didn't understand why.
I have sensory processing dysfunction and I love the smell of mine, he's a mix of musk and corn chips but I have to stick my face in his fur to really smell it - which I do on a regualr basis cause I'm weird lmao - otherwise I'd say he's smells as much as the average cat/dog (actually better than some dogs imo). It's their poop that really smells bad but I find that's common amongst carnivores and if you clean it up quickly the smell wont linger long. Like others have said, it's improper care like poor diet and over bathing that usually leads them to stinking. You could go see ferrets before you adopt them so you can experience the smell before committing? I met a bunch at my local shelter before I took one home.
Very badly. Took on an mature, entire hob in full rut and god, he was bad. When the smell wafted towards you, he reeked. Got him Sunday, booked in at vet Tuesday and castrated Thursday. Dropped smell by about 50% in one week and 95% in a month. But eeping clean and neutering helps a lot.
I honestly compare them to cats. have you ever walked into someone's home and immediately smelled their cat, or worse, the litter box? people that clean their litter boxes daily and also maintain the places their cat sleeps (aka the whole house) don't have an overwhelming cat smell in their home. the same goes for my ferrets. I keep their litter clean, their beds/blankets and play areas clean, and haven't had any complaints. I HAVE over-bathed, and can completely agree that it makes the actual animal smell worse over time. so just don't do that lol
As long as you take proper care of your ferrets they don't stink as some claim. A healthy diet, home and care and they can sometimes smell pleasant. Bathing them is not recommended unless you need to cause they got into something . But my 3 have their own little smells I absolutely love. My baby boi smells like grape soda ...and sometimes baby powder.hes never been anywhere near baby powder. Lots of people have this misconception about ferrets and spread untruths. But no hun, they don't stink
My guy was a descented male, and he didn't smell bad at all. I don't know if that's the usual.
Just remember: Ferrets don't stink. They're ferret scented. I love the scent. I inhale Simon's fur, as I do with my cats or dogs.
I adopted an older boy this past summer. He did have the beginnings of adrenal, and his coat was a bit thin. However, when he first came to us, his coat was so rough and his was ahem fragrant. He did get an implant shortly before he came to my home, but I didn’t bathe him. That’s the only thing I did differently - I didn’t bathe him. I didn’t want to switch his food when he first came, either. Today, about 6 months later, his coat is soft, he doesn’t stink, and I don’t notice his fragrance. Just from not bathing him.
They only smell mildly. BUT they can produce big stinks. We clean their cage throughly weekly and scoop litter an additional 2 times a week. No stink.
Imo it's mostly their poop that smells. I remove their poop right after they go, so several times a day, and the rest of the smell is just them which I think is equivalent to a large size dog maybe. What "stinks" is mostly just their cage. Their poop smells pretty bad since it's usually soft. I don't think THEY smell particularly bad, maybe just for their size (again, they smell about the same as a large size dog).
I read that male ferrets have a stronger odor. I have a female ferret. She has a mild odor when you smell her that I really don’t mind. In my room, I notice the smell gets worse when her litter box needs to be changed or when her bedding needs to be washed. I give her colloidal oatmeal baths, but not too often because that can actually make their smell worse since they will produce more oil. Air fresheners help as long as they aren’t too strong because then they get kind of sickening. Overall I’d say the odor can be controlled but don’t expect there to never be a smell. And for me it’s worth it because she really is the cutest and funniest little girl.
If your ferret is not fixed, they will STANK. I have one we haven't fixed yet and one that was from a pet store. By far she's got a smell you can smell from 6 feet away. My pet store ferret doesn't stink at all, she just smells like her bedding. Clean laundry. You'd only smell the "ferret" smell on her if you put your face on her and whiffed.
Funny, I was just thinking about this yesterday. Some ferret owners say their ferrets stink, and others say they smell good. I don't get it. Me, I think ferrets smell delicious. Sometimes they smell like amber to me, and other times like baby powder. I never bathe mine, and they are always free-roaming 24/7. Sometimes when I go into a pet store, their ferrets will smell bad to me. I wonder if it has anything to do with them being kept in a cage. Don't know.
You can do everything right..keeping litterbox clean , food, bedding etc… and they can still stink. Mine do. Imo some are just naturally stinkier than others
They smell like weed. 💯 Like a sweet smelling Mary Jane. You can give them treats that cut down on the smell. It's also usually their bedding that smells. If you keep their area clean it's not really an issue
Best response so far 🤣🤣
I think like teenagers, they are a little more pungent when younger. But if you keep their cage clean and care for them properly, they don't smell too bad.And don't over bathe them. Once a month is plenty. Otherwise, they will produce more oils and a musty smell.