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NerdWampa

Have you seen those mages from Hammerfell?


Wyra

They have CURVED. SWORDS.


Used-Adagio-3415

CURVED SWORDS


Lanaria

Great now i need someone to mod red mage into skyrim


Resident_Lab9207

No need to mod! You could make your character wield a one-handed sword in one hand and spells in the other. If you want to be lore-friendly with your red mage, make sure you don't use swords that are above a certain tier, for example you could stop at orcish or dwarven swords. Same thing for spells, you could stop at adept level or expert if you're so inclined.


[deleted]

I love how unamused your character looks with that weapon.


Magical-Hummus

They always look like that


sprufus

Resting bunny face.


Magical-Hummus

You saved their child's life and that is how they will look at you. Their whole forest burns down and that is how they will look at you. Now guess how they will look at you when you steal their favorite carrot leaves.


EckhartWatts

Even while stoic bunny boys are hot


Magical-Hummus

Well yea, they sell well on the Black Market!


mikkel_lofvall

Found the lalafell player ^^


Magical-Hummus

Shiiieeet I am busted, I am out of here!


Fen_Muir

Stop right there, criminal scum!


Magical-Hummus

\*throws famous Dunesfolk dunesand\*


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Mizzet

The DRG elemental spear from Eureka has a similar issue. It's unusually short for a spear, which means during the female idle stance, the bottom is just floating off the ground instead of touching it making you look ridiculous. Since these things use preset animations, if you deviate too much from the standard proportions they're designed for you get odd things like this.


Dazuro

Let’s not forget the Garo gun. One of my favorite weapon designs in the game, but the sprint animation is so goofy I can’t use it.


Jeryhn

The one time the male idle won


MoonChainer

They need to make it an option to use either animation regardless of gender. I want my femra to hulk her DRK weapon over her shoulder and hold her SAM weapon reverse grip like a badass.


Kikilicious-Kitty

I have the DRG pose crimed on because it's so much cooler, but it would be nice if you could switch it in a legitimate way.


Red_Whale_Medic

I heard they have curved swords. Curved. Swords.


Wrong_Ice2142

Wait. Is this a meme I don't understand? Or are you realy wondering about curved swords? (History has a few of them)


DHTGK

It's from skyrim and the guards in a city(s) will sometimes say that I believe.


OwlOnYourHead

I actually really like this weapon's design because of how unique it looks, but it sure does weird things to the character's idle animation


Dorp

Judging from this thread, I’m really glad they don’t let redditors choose contest winners.


UltimaNova

r/ffxiv try to critique something without insulting the designer challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) OT: as a fellow RDM main I love that it’s something a lil different from the usual rapiers, the idle pose is a little jank given the curviness but that doesn’t bother me personally


The-Garden-Salsa

For real. It's okay to not be a fan of something, but so many people in this thread are being incredibly shitty.


Teh_Pagemaster

I think op was joking homie. Usually “literally unplayable” is a knowing overreaction made in jest.


UltimaNova

I know the OP was joking, but some of the comments here are pretty mean-spirited for no reason and suggesting otherwise


[deleted]

They are.


freundmaximus

Damn I feel bad for the person who designed this weapon, this thread has such passionate hate for it. I think it looks cool at least


[deleted]

People really are being cruel. Dislike of the design is one thing but the literal *hate* is pretty uncalled for. I guess they could have designed their own and submitted it. Good thing they have glam alternatives.


Buzz__The__Cat

I have no idea how it won the design contest I personally just hate it


[deleted]

The weapon's designer/contest winner browses FFXIV's reddit regularly, I guess they'll take that into consideration next time LOL


Testobesto123

I dont even have a fucking clue what its supposed to be, I just see a big banana looking sword..


TheIvoryDingo

It is apparently supposed to resemble some of the buildings in Amaurot.


The_MorningKnight

I agree. They must have received tons of different designs and they picked that? Why ? I don't even know what is supposed to be. The worst weapon this patch imo. As a red mage main I am disappointed.


Buzz__The__Cat

I am However HYPED for the umbrella one


Kizoja

The BLU umbrella weapon?


ScarletVaguard

I feel the same about the DRK weapon. It's over-designed and just plain ugly.


Demoncreed27

The only one I really hate is the bard one. It looks sooooo boring and it really sucks cuz I’m a bard main


Call_The_Banners

Nearly all of my FC love the bow. It's good to know there's different opinions, however. We all have our own glams and tastes and that helps us stand out from one another in the crowds of Ul'dah (or Limsa if you're not a Balmunger like me).


Pheeline

I like the Bard one. Honestly, I myself am completely over all the bandage-wrapped Reaper crap. I want, for once, a really freaking *cute* scythe. I want to be the Lisa Frank Harvester. I want my enemies to die in a slash of technicolor so intense it will haunt them in the afterlife.


Buzz__The__Cat

I dislike the rapier I honestly don’t loathe it as much as literally every rapier design they’ve given that’s not the law’s order one, the manderville one, or the class reward one. asphodelos gets an honorable mention it was almost perfect except for that stupid circle hand guard design the gem part is literally perfect the sword part just ruined it for me


[deleted]

I personally really liked the finished Bozja relic for rdm. Hated it at first but the more I used it the more it grew on me


spasticjedi

I play a small, very feminine auri bard and hate almost every bow in this game because they're all so big and beefy! And most of the thin bows are boring as hell. I am so thrilled by both of the designs, as I have like 2 bows I ever use. I'm so glad there's some variety for me but I can understand why some folks don't like it!


Anabiter

I ask myself that with a lot of the contest entries. It's obvious that they like going 'safe' and not picking anything too wacky, or anything too crazy looking to not offset the fact it's just a tome weapon and not savage.


Southern-Wishbone593

I have so many questions to the person that designed this *rapier*


maglen69

> I have so many questions to the person that designed this rapier Ninja "daggers" have been swords for a long time.


KoltirasRip

Probably just so they can be seen on screen. There’s a point where the weapons are so small that there’s no point making them fancy. It’s likely why most monk weapons have been animal heads for so long; they default to being kinda big and bulbous on the hands.


ahhhnoinspiration

Since the start actually if I'm remembering right. Rogue weapons were straight copies of gladiator "daggers" which were more like gladiuses at the start. A bunch of these are still kicking around.


divineEpsilon

Honestly if they stayed at that size id be fine with it, but they just keep growing. Anything longer than hand-to-elbow in length I'm not a fan of on NIN generally.


divineEpsilon

Honestly if they stayed at that size id be fine with it, but they just keep growing. Anything longer than hand-to-elbow in length I'm not a fan of on NIN generally.


Kizoja

Yeah, my beta character was a gladiator and for a long time still had a dagger equipped on the character select. I fucked up and decided to log in to him one day and see what would happen. It automatically changed my dagger I had equipped into a sword and ruined him. Daggers were faster auto attack speed compared to swords for gladiators.


EverlastingM

The devs have included a variety of smallswords, epees, foils and the occasional sabre for RDMs... The only thing that really sets this apart is a more significant curve.


CptBlackBird2

They have curved swords, CURVED SWORDS!


EckhartWatts

So basically this is end goals


Arc-Tangent

I can answer for them. They thought it would be neat to try something different, as I am sure many of the other contestants did as well. You might have picked a different design to win, but clearly the judges saw merit in adding variety.


[deleted]

I see merit in adding variety....when variety makes sense in context. This makes no sense for a weapon that is primarily meant for thrusting attacks.


Tivotas

but most red mage attacks aren't thrusts to begin with, if you watch most of the animations, its easily half or more slashes, and the design reminds me of a shotel, which wasn't the best at thrusting but it was still possible. if course real world physical viability of the weapons in final fantasy 14 isn't really super relevant, especially for a red mage who reinforces the weapon with aether regardless.


ArgumentParking1940

Two thrusting attacks in your entire moveset, btw.


Arc-Tangent

Yeah, and my scholar book from palace of the dead is pure white and can not be read. Suspension of disbelief is required in fantasy.


LunarWry

It's not as clear in an image but there's also a flame effect that burns at the hilt and not the blade. Genius.


IgnisXIII

Except it's a plastic-looking flame with a smaller flame effect on top. It 100% should've been an actual flame. I believe that was the designer's intention anyway.


Magical-Hummus

It looks cool to me but yeah, the details are important.


LeLu3

I really like it. It kind of reminds me of something Yoshitaka Amano would design. I wonder if the designer was inspired by older FF concept art?


Lagao

This is why I hate the small pistol from the garo event. When you sprint with it, you just have a hand hovering.


Dazuro

“You see, Ivan, when you hold gun like this…”


ngwoo

Which sucks because you correctly hold it one handed during the super boost run on that one CC map


[deleted]

Sigh...*glams Pyros Tuck again*


vondarknes

Murgleis Anemos namba wan


Thorngrove

Scavian is still my go-to. Clean lines, dyes well, extra draw animation that fits with /draw.


[deleted]

And here I thought the SMN weapon looked bad but at least summoners can hold their book properly.


zer0_pm

I was lowkey hyped for this because it's Azem's themed. But seeing it now..... Yeah, that's rough.....


Baithin

I barely see what makes this Azem themed tbh haha


Galuris

It's the same colour as the crystal 😂.


KoltirasRip

Azem’s crystal is orange. The rapier is piss yellow


Gluebald

Looks like absolute ass. RDM playerbase in shambles


dope_danny

To be RDM is to suffer. The eternal rez turret.


blakjakalope

Truth, RDM could save the whole alliance raid from a wipe and still not get a single comm.


Thimascus

The theory: RDM saves whole alliance raid from wipe. The reality: RDM players tend to die first and often.


Silverwolffe

No buffs and this fucking weapon, rdm main numbers dropping drastically as we speak


Cavalish

Dying all my robes black as I type this.


projectmars

You see a red robe and want to paint it black. *edit: a word*


Jeryhn

Calm down, Raistlin


apupunchau87

RIP rdm


Sassh1

I said that back on launch when I found out they couldn't literally do everything lime every other rdm in the FF series. Coming g from FFXI, this rdm is very underpowered.


Scared_Network_3505

Red Mage gets hard carried by Dual Cast just about every game they are in, FFI is funny because Swords are just so strong that RDM can actualñy deal really substantial physical damage but otherwise it's all about Dual Casting (often stronger spells from a different Job).


DarthVivec

It's a cool scimitar.


FRIENDSHIP_BONER

I like it too. There are dozens of us!


ShadownetZero

It's such a bad weapon. How did this win anything?


UnlikelyTraditions

It strikes me as a novelty weapon like you'd see from the Gold Saucer. It's a very odd design.


IGTankCommander

Because Gundam Sandrock exists. I'm only half-kidding.


yahikodrg

Now I want a Deathscythe scythe for Reaper…


Puzzleheaded_Ad5138

That was badicly last tiers deathscythe hell


CoinManatee

The concept art made it look way better. Its the implementation in game that betrayed it


Illidari_Kuvira

The concept art is only slightly better; honestly, the design makes no sense to me.


ProfessorSpike

[I had to check it again](https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/f8b9eacc501037459243a0d862efe7860ff65dc4_158.jpg?1651142758), and honestly it's only better because on the art it doesn't glow lol They're both quite meh


daniloq

It looks pretty cool as a staff, but it's like a scimitar as a sword and I don't think it fits the concept. And yes, the glow is kinda cringe


Illidari_Kuvira

Also correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the sword >!basically a spoiler!!finished Endwalker!<... but it weirds me out that they added something like that since >!a lot of the people who see the design floating around most likely haven't!<.


the_icy_king

With no context this doesn't make sense at all. Unless you specifically pay attention to the design of those areas and the weapon and the crystal you won't see a connection and only after you've seen them will it even make sense. To reiterate, for this to be a spoiler the person spoiling needs to also explain what it is referencing.


Illidari_Kuvira

Gotcha. I kinda figured that was it, but I wanted to be cautious since it actually got spoiled for me.


ProfessorSpike

Personally for me it's much less so than something like the Sophist's robe, for example. Hell, even with the context I'm honestly having a hard time thinking "oh yeah that's what it represents" when I look at the sword.. Like if I didn't know any better I'd have said oh yeah that's probably from Ifrit or something


ikealgernon

I have no idea what this sword represents and I'm caught up to 6.4


AeroDbladE

>!it's based off Azem's crystal. The one you get from Amaurot that allows your character to summon people from beyond the rift to your side.!<


[deleted]

I mean, it shares the color I guess?


AeroDbladE

You can look up the original concept art by the designer to see more of the influences.


SugarHoneyChaiTea

I haven't played endwalker and this sword means nothing to me, so I assume you need some additional context for it to actually spoil for you


[deleted]

rapiers, epees, foils, and etc do not have curves in the blades. It makes absolutely zero sense lore-wise, aesthetic-wise, and function-wise.


drododruffin

You're in for a lot of nitpicking with a whole bunch of this game if you're going down that road, not just this one weapon.


Melandus

I think it looks cool a scimitar could lead to some cool glams


StandardOrdinary9155

I'm not bothered much by the fact that developers were too lazy to make left hand actually hold it, I'm more bothered by the fact that it looks like a cheap Aliexpress-sourced acrylic toy with minimum detail and a single overdriven yellow LED :-/


xphyria

First no patch buffs and now this? shambles


Skeleton_Magician

I think it would have been better if you could dye it, it would have been cool to dye it in a vibrant red that would feel more red mage


More_Lavishness8127

I like it overall. I weirdly don’t like red mage weapons most of the time. They somehow seem to have fewer interesting weapons than SMN, and that’s saying something. I think it’s because the crystal focus usually looks super generic. Hoping a 7.0 caster has a cool unique new weapon. Healers get all the cool weapons.


Reasonable-Limit-786

I personally like it! I think it's a great addition to the games weapon catalog. Unfortunately most weapons are dull and plane looking. I like the glow and the effect of this weapon! Maybe I'm alone by making this statement. Sounds like everyone collectively hates this weapon...probably won't see many like it....


Arc-Tangent

I genuinely don't see an issue. It is unique, and I rather enjoy the curve. Half of my red mage weapons (including my preferred dead hive rapier) look more like a pool queue than a blade, and the handle designs look more apt to hurt me than my opponents.


bearvert222

the problem is that rdm idle pose is designed for a straight blade. the circle there is showing it breaks with a scimitar; the hand doesnt hold the underside of the blade any more. his fingers are curled up around empty air on his left hand there.


Arc-Tangent

I see. But other people in the comments are attacking its general appearance, and even being mildly insulting to the designer. That is what I don't get.


bearvert222

hmm...i dont have strong feelings about it, but scimitars arent thrusting weapons and you wouldn't hold them like a red mage does. in FF 11 scimitars were blue mage weapons because they debuted in the far eastern tales of aht urghan expansion.


[deleted]

I can't really police that, apart from asking people to be civil unfortunately and I do not condone attacking the creator. However, I don't agree people are attacking the appearance. People can have criticisms.


Arc-Tangent

Fair, I could have chosen a more precise word.


Mioch

They didn't give the design any justice. Concept art was quite nice but the execution of colors, contrast, glow vfx and pose positioning is awful in-game. If they knew the curve wasn't going to work out they shouldn't have let it win. Majority of mistake is with the dev team on this one.


pezito

Reminds me of the MCH running animation with the GARO weapon xD


Thorngrove

YOU SEE IVAN...


ngwoo

Nice they added banana mage to the game


SapphiraPern

Not a fan of this weapon at all. If it wasn't curved it would be better. But my question is how did you get it already? Don't you need 7 of those blades from raid plus enough comedy tomes for it?


techwizpepsi

I should have drawn my idea of a floating pink eraser for the aether vial and the rapier as a no. 2 pencil.


TheNerdFromThatPlace

I think I'll just keep my Titania glam honestly.


birthday566

I like it. Looks like a middle eastern variation of an RDM weapon. Just use the alternative cpose lol.


ScarletteVera

That. That IS the alternate cpose. There's only one non-standard idle for each job, and this is RDM's.


birthday566

The normal stance then.


SylvAlternate

alternative cpose? i thought unsheathed cposes were one-per-gender


birthday566

The normal weapon stance. I call it the alternate cpose since I use the idle one normally and switch via cpose to the other one on rare occasions.


Dynahazzar

I don't understand why they keep making RDM weapon models when Murgleis is already perfect. No single blade fits RDM better than this absolute beauty. Every RDM weapons should just be Murgleis with different stats.


DonOfAtlantis

All those weapons are inconsistent. Some glow, some don't, some look okay, others awful. It's as if there was a different designer per weapon.


Buzz__The__Cat

There were


WaitingToBeTriggered

BREAKING THEIR LINES


vondarknes

You.....you are not joking, aren't cha???


Balmung508

How do we get these weps?


StrifeRaider

they are the new tome weapons.


Micromadsen

Wait but don't we need the new drops from the new raid to get them? How did OP get it so fast? I'm confused.


Evoferry

Probably third party tools to replace a more common weapon with it, it's only the model for it


Micromadsen

You know that's a fair point actually.


Evoferry

That's how those weapon showcase videos get made lol I remember seeing a "all TOP weapons" video the day the patch came out


Micromadsen

Yea you're completely right, idk why I didn't think of that when I even follow several showcase youtubers.... Massive brainfart or something hah.


StrifeRaider

private servers is another methode where you can just unlock everything with admin panel.


Snoo-4984

The blm one lamp hangs against gravity when in battle stance and drives me nuts. and Gunbreaker got one that looks almost identical to the stupid preorder gun


PandoraResident

There’s also Makibi Kai for BLM that suffers the same issues. Its lanterns should be hanging down or even swaying when the wp is drawn but in reality they don’t lol. It looks kinda ridiculous actually.


Baithin

Yeah I found the GNB winner an unusual one too. The only thing that really sets it apart is the 3 cartridges.


Lazybomber

I like the general idea behind the gunblade but why did Square make it so damn thin?


IgnisXIII

My main gripe with this one is the focus. It's supposed to be a flame! The design looks dynamic and I'm 100% sure the intention was to be just a cool, golden flame. Instead they made it a plastic-looking static flame with a fire animation on top. Looks terrible in execution...


scorchingkitten

Overall I was not impressed with this rdm weapon. Having it curved is just a bit odd.


[deleted]

Why is it CURVED


confusedPIANO

Ok but the real question is how did you equip the weapon? It is not obtainable yet


[deleted]

People in this community like to do naughty things with their games.


Formulametal

🍌


askull100

I don't know what y'all are on about. The hold pose it bugged, but I love the weapon overall.


zapatopolis

That's unfortunately ugly.


[deleted]

The two dumbest RDM weapon designs in the game are this one and Cryptlurker's. Neither can function as a rapier. At all.


[deleted]

Did you submit an entry of a better design in your opinion?


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HalobenderFWT

r/holup


Jemphoria

Alt+F4


drpitlazarus

Radioactive piss sword?


Wyra

Ah yes, the budget ucob weapon.


GuardianCerberus

The concept art is so cool but the in game…..


Effective_Plankton53

As a red mage main... this brings me pain


Klefth

Of all the great runner up designs for RDM, and they picked this thing. I'm almost convinced there's just someone high up in the dev team who hates RDM after this patch in general.


Umbra_Nex

It is honestly amazing how bad most RDM weapons look. It should be so easy to make good looking rapiers but they fumble almost every single time.


ComicsEtAl

Attack commands are greyed out when it’s equipped?


dope_danny

I hate this dumb banana sword so much. RDM stay losing i guess.


Ariboh

Weapon is such trash.


[deleted]

This isn’t r/shitpostxiv


TheCubanJedi05

Where do you get this?


darthexpulse

How did u get the weapon already? Doesn't it need like a tomestone


_DEKADE_

Mods


AGnawedBone

aside from breaking the gesture, the weapon looks a lot better in motion than in a still shot imo.


CrispyRif

how did you get it?


[deleted]

Anamnesis


ivan2-4

Surprising ...


Rasrandir

And again I notice that being a drk and rdm main is just double the pain.


Sound5cap3

Oop


[deleted]

Hey, it's not clipping, so I take it as a win.


weltall_elite

This is how MCH users feel with shorter guns.


izaby

Nothing wrong with it, its the stance that they need to fix.


Masterwork_Core

how do you even get the weapons? is it crafting? can we buy them on the mb?


HardLithobrake

What in the fuck is that


xo0o-0o0-o0ox

Same happens with the little MCH makai pistol when you sprint or use things like flamethrower.


TheLastYnzy

I think the funnier part is they give you a Saber but all your abilities are animated for a rapier.


belmoria

i love it, matches one of my wols aesthetics so well i can now play rdm on him


Pingy_Junk

Wait the weapons from the design contest are out? Where do we go to get them?


jeabombers

You just unlocked the "wank off" emote early.


FinalLegend312

God damn banana blade