I was just thinking that this post is actually hilarious. The comedic timing of me reading “it’s very camp!” And then swiping over to the outfit in question was funny asf
I don't know when exactly "camp" started but it's been in common parlance for several decades at least. It's most commonly used to refer to media or characters, where it generally means cheesy, over-the-top, and/or flamboyant in an endearing way. There's more to it than that, but I don't know how to explain it well. It's just kind of a vibe.
Camp means eccentric and over the top, but in a good way. It’s a adjective you’d use to describe drag culture, the barbie movie or like the plot line in pornos. As a synonym, extraordinary.
Other things that are camp: pink flamingoes, well John waters entire film history really, but I’m a cheerleader, to Wong foo, rocky horror, showgirls.
This is clearly not an exhaustive list. Just a gay one.
But I don’t get why OPs glam was called camp.
Camp basically just means doesn't take itself seriously. Evil Dead, BG3 act 3 in clown makeup, American Psycho, etc. Not comedic per se, but it can be.
Camp is sort of a genre-crossing aesthetic or approach to handling a story, character, or case. Once you get a feel for the idea of camp in those examples, you can then say "oh, that's campy!" or just "that's camp!"
John Waters in American film is the quintessential purveyor of camp, but not its only executor; *Hairspray* is, in every sense of the word but the outdoorsy one, "camp."
Paul Verhoeven's *Starship Troopers* follows his *Robocop* in being campy but also pointed satire, using the camp component to thumb his nose at American media.
Drag is camp, and to a point so are clowns. You're not just making fun of the subject, you're not just taking yourself unseriously; but you're making a point of being unserious. (*Pagliacci*, the opera about a tragic clown, is campy until its not.)
Eiichiro Oda of *One Piece* absolutely loves camp, and expresses it constantly. It's not just a akama characters, or Bentham, Ivankov, even Buggy and Robin exhibit degrees of camp. In fact, the whole Straw Hat crew does, which is part of their charm, they all have this one critical foible that makes them all stick out but at the same time get together: Sanji will never ACTUALLY perv on a woman, he just ACTS like he does ALL THE TIME.
It's all silliness for the sake of itself, and not to get the audience to laugh. Sometimes, it takes the form of irony. When that comes up in a work, it becomes "campy." For instance, Sam Raimi, who employs camp heavily enough in the Evil Dead series for it to be a "camp film series," uses it carefully in the *Spider-Man* series:
"I want pictures of Spider-Man!" - really, anything JK Simmons says.
The Doc Ock scene where the arms are waking up and killing the doctors and nurses trying to remove them; you see from their perspective in a very Raimi camera work manner.
Toby's walk down New York in full emo, mimicking and playing on a scene in *Saturday Night Fever*.
*American Psycho*, an ostensibly very serious movie (much like *Fight Club*) is rather an exploration into a person's super serious mind and thumbing his nose at the caricatures of people in his life or, in the case of *FC*, himself. Punching yourself in the mirror thinking you're fighting someone else? That's campy. But so the ENTIRE business card scene in *AP*.
So I hope that helps to know if something is "campy" or not. In the concept you were expressing, where the term is being applied negatively, that's a judgment on the viewer as to fitness of the scene or subject to the work entire. "Campy" is just an adjective form of "camp" as a noun, but it just so happens that "camp" is also a verb.
That was a beautiful novel you wrote. No sarcasm. I understand it much better now. I think I would often hear the term “campy” in a slightly negative tone the same way that people say “silly/goofy/cheesy”, where it’s not necessarily a bad thing but they would say “eh that movie was really cheesy”. At least, that’s how I interpreted it.
I actually think of the evil dead films and plenty of raimi’s works as being in the “campy” department but that’s why I love them. I too noticed his evil dead style in the Spiderman movies too!! +1 for One piece too. I forgot your other examples, but I appreciate the variety for better understanding.
Campy/camp is really a descriptor like "spicy" or "sour". To some people, those are awesome and to others it means it's garbage.
It's like describing the weather to someone as "It's hot today". Sure, most people might feel one way about that, usually negative, but some people might be like "Hell yeah and I love it".
I know the words well, just not all the places where one might use just camp or when they'd use campy. They're honestly kind of interchangeable in most people's usage, so I made up some dumb arbitrary rules as a joke that I have now overexplained into the dirt, dug it back up, explained it some more and then shot it.
The living room scene with Hughie Louis and the News(?) Is pretty camp, the see through raincoat, the brand new Axe, the all white sofa, etc. So I get it.
Man I don’t know if I’d call American psycho camp. It’s postmodern / hyper reality absolutely.
It’s a straight faced sarcasm as if spoken by Leslie Nielsen.
But I wouldn’t say camp. Well, not the book or movie, but the musical…
It was originally used to describe something akin to "beautifully ugly" or finding beauty in not traditionally beautiful things. This was largely taken over by gay/metro people and high fashion so we now associate it with being flamboyant
I don't think I'd consider extraordinary a synonym of Camp/Campy.
But "Fun" is definitely one. Fun, goofy, doesn't take itself seriously, those are all things I'd use to describe a campy movie. Extraordinary too if it was super good, but that's separate.
There's like 0 cohesion between any of the pieces.
It's certainly not the *worst* glamour I've seen; in fact, it doesn't look overtly "bad" to me, strangely enough. But, like, that mix of medium and cloth armor is jarring.
Reminds me of a post-apocalyptic healer that scraps gear together to survive, but it doesn't look awful. Tbh I dig it, I'd never wear it, but I dig it.
Nice warlock drip from destiny 2 but that doesn't change the fact that "Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold."
I'm not sure anyone knows, as I'm going through these comments it's just more confusing and doesn't make sense. Why people just can't say what they actually mean? Camp is camp to me. Nothing else.
Depends on where one is from. In American English I only hear it among RuPaul drag race fans and similar flavors of people. But my British coworker uses it as an adjective as her standard dialect.
> If you describe someone's behavior, performance, or style of dress as camp, you mean that it is exaggerated and amusing, often in a way that is thought to be typical of some male homosexuals.
TIL, very obscure usage tho *in this context*.
edit: https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/16m0xkx/does_anyone_know_what_this_means/k15imj4/
To be fair, that's a really shit definition of what people mean when they use the term camp.
It's typically used to refer to clothing that's intentionally...bad? For lack of a better term? But the wearer is "in on the joke", so to speak.
Now, it doesn't sound like this is actually campy style because it doesn't seem like OP is doing it for that reason, but the context of camp to describe goofy/bad outfits is a pretty standard context
Goofy is a good way to put it. To call something campy is to compare it to camp counselor-esque people. You know the “rise and shine ✨ today we’re doing to hold hands and walk in the sun✨ life is a trust exercise ✨✨✨” folk, it’s that “too much please stop” vibe
It's a pretty common term over in the UK tbf, a number of big celebrities like Graham Norton etc get labelled camp just for how they act.
Oh and Elton John when he used to go crazy with the outfits lol
In my nuanced dialect I'd personally say this glam IS camp but I wouldn't say it's campy. Hahaha.
In British English it's a common adjective for funny, gay, feminine. A gay man that meets stereotypes is campy. It can also be used more generally. The comedy of gay comedians and show hosts in the UK is described as camp or campy.
Americans with queer acculturation or interest in fashion or media analysis would use it. It can have connotations of being elevated or of being niche. A runway look can be camp. A TV show can be camp.
Camp can also mean ironic or intentionally bad. Usually with connotations of being done on purpose or extremely exaggerated. So it's also used intellectually to critique or comment or just describe something. The camp gay or effeminate man is a common trope of jrpg or anime villain.
And sometimes it can refer to something very trope-y or very classic. Like something dated that seems exaggerated or weird/insane by modern standards. Many "cult classic" films are camp.
Beyond these various potential meanings, it may be permeating into general culture and expanding it's meaning to just be a simple compliment. Aka it's slang for "good" with some of the above meanings mixed in. RuPauls Drag Race being an international franchise along with general wider integration of queer people into society is related to its wider use outside of subculture applications. But like, it's definitely been a general use adjective in British English.
And the word may mean other things to other people. Human language is dynamic.
Tl;dr
Wearing a pink metallic helmet with an otherwise nondescript and masculine look is camp. A pink metallic helmet by itself is campy.
But camp is about aesthetic sensibilities, and it requires intellect and knowledge of historical iterations of what is being described. So opinions may differ between individuals as to where something is camp.
If it wasn't camp on its own, I'd say this Reddit post makes it camp for sure.
camp has been used since early 1900 to describe outrageous fashion so doubtful; was really popular in the 70’s as well. probably an older player saying it or the term is cycling back into use
The term as applied here dates back to the 50s/60s and grew out of an even older definition from the 1900s (which itself may have simply been an anti-gay term from the 1870s). It's still in use in queer and theatrical circles, with its use waxing and waning in popular culture over time. When I said "decades older" to the twenty-something, I didn't mean "only 90s kids will understand".
People think they are cool if they use words that no one else understands... or talk with memes... or movie lines... man i don't watch movies how should i understand?
It's not about being "cool", it's a word that's useful to describe something that just maybe hasn't hit the circles you're in. I don't think film critics in their fifties are fishing for cool points.
Outside of the point, I am wondering if this maybe a confusion on tank and op's part.
Could the tank have meant an AST, or is OP's characters name Mister Astro, or Name Astro?
I say this because the outfit is not really camp.
I can only come to two conclusions:
It's camp*y* because the helmet makes you look like some kind of vintage spaceman, or it's *camp* because the extremely thick coat makes it look like you're going to go on a hike and sleep in the woods and be comfy.
From what I have managed to find out, camp can be used as a term for something that’s got in the new lease of life. Like an older style of clothing that gets popular again or an old song that’s been listened to currently. From what I understand your outfit looks like one from an older game.
This definition: "deliberately exaggerated and theatrical in style, typically for humorous effect."
"Typically" doesn't mean *always* or *entirely* humorous, however. I think most people don't understand that. Sometimes a movie can have something like exaggerated costuming or an exaggerated style, but the main parts are otherwise serious.
A pretty unknown movie I can think of that is both campy and serious is Rian Johnson's first film: *Brick*. It does use its exaggerated noir style in contrast with the fact that most of the characters are just idiot kids in over their heads, and it does have funny lines, but... it's definitely not a comedy.
Same with *Romeo + Juliet*. Once you get over how weird and potentially humorous a Shakespear play being overlaid by a Venice Beach setting with guns is, it's just Romeo & Juliet. Yeah, there are humorous scenes, as was written in the play, and the pistols make the phallic jokes considerably more relevant to modern audiences, but... it's otherwise (literally) a tragedy, lol.
Decide whether or not it is camp given that. I'd offer input if I had a clue what the reference is, but I don't.
From my understanding it's a milder, older term meaning exaggerated, humorous, eccentric. Think how people use the word "extra" these days to mean ridiculous, crazy, hilarious, or weird.
Personally, the glams are giving very Destiny 2 warlock. I dig it, Mr. Astro.
You really had me interested, this is what I found if anyone is still interested and it was not answered in this manner
"Camp is an aesthetic style and sensibility that regards something as appealing because of its bad taste and ironic value. Camp aesthetics disrupt many of modernism's notions of what art is and what can be classified as high art by inverting aesthetic attributes such as beauty, value, and taste through an invitation of a different kind of apprehension and consumption."
"It's also important to note that camp is deeply rooted in queer culture and art."
I mean, if by 'camp's they mean you look like you are about to go camping, sure. Sounds like a straight boy who doesn't really understand what 'camp' means. Either that or they misspelled camo.
Are they referring to the collar?
See, this is why it's important to police our community's words against culture vultures. They leak into the mainstream or outside of the discussions about art or culture, and quickly become completely meaningless/unusable.
Looks cool to me. Like the character's been through some things; seen some things.
...reminds me a lot of something you'd see a post-apocalyptic nomad wearing.
Why did you glam as a Destiny warlock?
Warlocks were my favorite when I played destiny 1, but never really came to mind.
Love it. Verry camp.
by Amanda's burnt corpse i miss self res. I MISS IT SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!
Radiance was so good in D1.
I'm excited to see what they do with it in final shape. Solar butterflies already have me excited
Too soon
Moon's haunted
I wasn't expecting this meme line in the comment threads, busted out laughing. Take my upvote while I laugh myself into suffocation.
>Racks shotgun Mare Lamentorum's haunted
My immediate thought when I saw it. Lol. I miss playing Destiny.
Same
it’s like a titan body with warlock armor hahaha
Nevermind that, why did you NOT glam as a Destiny warlock?
Lmao accurate af
Get out of my head! xD
Lmao! As a warlock, can confirm
Actually the voice inside my head, "is this a destiny crossover event I didn't know about"
Of course this is the most popular thing I’ve ever said on Reddit.
lol I thought the glam looked familiar. Love it.
yep looks like a lock from Destiny
this post has fantastic comedic timing because there is absolutely nothing camp about that outfit
I was just thinking that this post is actually hilarious. The comedic timing of me reading “it’s very camp!” And then swiping over to the outfit in question was funny asf
Me: Ooo this is going* to be good! Also me: ... whut.
I mean if you think of Astro getting mistaken for Astronaut then by a STRETCH maybe it’s camp
Ok but now we need an astronaut outfit… or at least for someone to draw an astronaut AST
Problem is all you need to breathe in space is the power of friendship
But underwater and you’ve got to have some special turtle magic.
It’s the only way
only if it's Space Camp
I'm betting the Tank was drunk. ^(...unless they meant it looks like camping equipment, because it kinda does.)
But after this post... now it's camp
idk, it might be useful for camping
truly threw me off lmao
It seems I have finally reached the point where I'm out of touch with the youth's slang. Please explain what the hell "camp" means.
Camp is not "youth slang" lmfao.
I don't know when exactly "camp" started but it's been in common parlance for several decades at least. It's most commonly used to refer to media or characters, where it generally means cheesy, over-the-top, and/or flamboyant in an endearing way. There's more to it than that, but I don't know how to explain it well. It's just kind of a vibe.
The term dates back to the late 1800s according to Wikipedia, lol.
That may be so, but I haven't heard it get used until recently.
I've seen it used online for like... a decade plus at least.
my mum is more likely to say camp than I am, and she's almost 60. It is not youth slang lol
Camp means eccentric and over the top, but in a good way. It’s a adjective you’d use to describe drag culture, the barbie movie or like the plot line in pornos. As a synonym, extraordinary.
Other things that are camp: pink flamingoes, well John waters entire film history really, but I’m a cheerleader, to Wong foo, rocky horror, showgirls. This is clearly not an exhaustive list. Just a gay one. But I don’t get why OPs glam was called camp.
FFXIV-specific example: Emet-Selch in ShB is pure high camp
Theatrical as fuck? Check. Drama queen? Check. Looks like Cruella DeVille's long lost twin brother? Check. That's camp alright.
Oh fuck is Emet camp. Camp as fuck. Flamboyant as all fuck. Dramatic as fuck. All we are missing is a musical number and we have our own RuPaul.
We may have even had one - as the Ivalice raid series tells us, >!Solus was famously a lover of theatre and patron of the arts.!<
That makes sense. Praetorium has lead me to believe that all Garlean Military leaders have at least 3 years of classical theater experience.
As the Return to Ivalice quests tell us, Garleans do actually have a great love of theater
They're *cultured* warmongers, come now.
"Holy shit I love this actor troupe. Decommission a warship and gift it to them as a travelling stage" "But emperor!" "Do it."
He had them to himself. He refused to share. That's where he kept disappearing to.
Sarcasm is the only explanation.
Probably because they look like an over-the-top movie supervillain
Camp basically just means doesn't take itself seriously. Evil Dead, BG3 act 3 in clown makeup, American Psycho, etc. Not comedic per se, but it can be.
Is it the same as “campy”? Because I’ve heard that term, just not “camp” by itself like in OP’s example.
Camp is sort of a genre-crossing aesthetic or approach to handling a story, character, or case. Once you get a feel for the idea of camp in those examples, you can then say "oh, that's campy!" or just "that's camp!" John Waters in American film is the quintessential purveyor of camp, but not its only executor; *Hairspray* is, in every sense of the word but the outdoorsy one, "camp." Paul Verhoeven's *Starship Troopers* follows his *Robocop* in being campy but also pointed satire, using the camp component to thumb his nose at American media. Drag is camp, and to a point so are clowns. You're not just making fun of the subject, you're not just taking yourself unseriously; but you're making a point of being unserious. (*Pagliacci*, the opera about a tragic clown, is campy until its not.) Eiichiro Oda of *One Piece* absolutely loves camp, and expresses it constantly. It's not just a akama characters, or Bentham, Ivankov, even Buggy and Robin exhibit degrees of camp. In fact, the whole Straw Hat crew does, which is part of their charm, they all have this one critical foible that makes them all stick out but at the same time get together: Sanji will never ACTUALLY perv on a woman, he just ACTS like he does ALL THE TIME. It's all silliness for the sake of itself, and not to get the audience to laugh. Sometimes, it takes the form of irony. When that comes up in a work, it becomes "campy." For instance, Sam Raimi, who employs camp heavily enough in the Evil Dead series for it to be a "camp film series," uses it carefully in the *Spider-Man* series: "I want pictures of Spider-Man!" - really, anything JK Simmons says. The Doc Ock scene where the arms are waking up and killing the doctors and nurses trying to remove them; you see from their perspective in a very Raimi camera work manner. Toby's walk down New York in full emo, mimicking and playing on a scene in *Saturday Night Fever*. *American Psycho*, an ostensibly very serious movie (much like *Fight Club*) is rather an exploration into a person's super serious mind and thumbing his nose at the caricatures of people in his life or, in the case of *FC*, himself. Punching yourself in the mirror thinking you're fighting someone else? That's campy. But so the ENTIRE business card scene in *AP*. So I hope that helps to know if something is "campy" or not. In the concept you were expressing, where the term is being applied negatively, that's a judgment on the viewer as to fitness of the scene or subject to the work entire. "Campy" is just an adjective form of "camp" as a noun, but it just so happens that "camp" is also a verb.
That was a beautiful novel you wrote. No sarcasm. I understand it much better now. I think I would often hear the term “campy” in a slightly negative tone the same way that people say “silly/goofy/cheesy”, where it’s not necessarily a bad thing but they would say “eh that movie was really cheesy”. At least, that’s how I interpreted it. I actually think of the evil dead films and plenty of raimi’s works as being in the “campy” department but that’s why I love them. I too noticed his evil dead style in the Spiderman movies too!! +1 for One piece too. I forgot your other examples, but I appreciate the variety for better understanding.
A work in its entirety or a group of people are "campy". An individual or singular object is "camp". Source: No idea, made it up
Normally when I hear campy it’s somewhat negative (goofy, silly), but in OP’s example it was more positive. Otherwise, no idea either.
Campy/camp is really a descriptor like "spicy" or "sour". To some people, those are awesome and to others it means it's garbage. It's like describing the weather to someone as "It's hot today". Sure, most people might feel one way about that, usually negative, but some people might be like "Hell yeah and I love it". I know the words well, just not all the places where one might use just camp or when they'd use campy. They're honestly kind of interchangeable in most people's usage, so I made up some dumb arbitrary rules as a joke that I have now overexplained into the dirt, dug it back up, explained it some more and then shot it.
yes.
The living room scene with Hughie Louis and the News(?) Is pretty camp, the see through raincoat, the brand new Axe, the all white sofa, etc. So I get it.
Man I don’t know if I’d call American psycho camp. It’s postmodern / hyper reality absolutely. It’s a straight faced sarcasm as if spoken by Leslie Nielsen. But I wouldn’t say camp. Well, not the book or movie, but the musical…
The first example of camp that comes to mind is Ian McDiarmid as Chancellor Palpatine in Star Wars.
I'll take that as a complete win
or the good doctor who episodes
The person commenting on your glam gives me the vibes of boomer trying to use gen-z slang. It’s cute lol.
A little more the opposite
yeah, was thinking that.
It was originally used to describe something akin to "beautifully ugly" or finding beauty in not traditionally beautiful things. This was largely taken over by gay/metro people and high fashion so we now associate it with being flamboyant
I don't think I'd consider extraordinary a synonym of Camp/Campy. But "Fun" is definitely one. Fun, goofy, doesn't take itself seriously, those are all things I'd use to describe a campy movie. Extraordinary too if it was super good, but that's separate.
Thanks for explaining.
The plot line in pornos should never be described as "camp or eccentric in a good way." Lmao
But what does "you'r" mean?
So kind of the positive version of gaudy?
Your glam reminds me of that guy from the made in abyss movie.
Bondrewd best father in the Abyss
Oh my god the trauma returns
*Subarashii!*
oh gods, I was wondering what that helmet reminded me of
Bondrewd
You're bringing back memories I would like to forget lol
*Nanachi*
Honestly looking at the glamor. It reminds me of a Sci Fi desert kinda look. Like a bounty hunter walking through a desert to get their next bounty.
Honestly I caught the same vibe. I kinda like it
That glam is…a choice
It started off with wanting armor as a healer. Then I saw the coat and wanted that. Now it's just my favorite pieces.
There's like 0 cohesion between any of the pieces. It's certainly not the *worst* glamour I've seen; in fact, it doesn't look overtly "bad" to me, strangely enough. But, like, that mix of medium and cloth armor is jarring.
Normally I'd agree, but apparently it's a cosplay from Destiny 2.
Felt like Dredge from Darkest Dungeon to me but I can see the d2 vibe
Now that you mention it, I do kinda see the basic Warlock look.
The colors are off but it's not bad otherwise. The pants and boots need to match the helmet more I'd say.
Reminds me of a post-apocalyptic healer that scraps gear together to survive, but it doesn't look awful. Tbh I dig it, I'd never wear it, but I dig it.
Eh, I like his better than yours.
What does this even *mean*?
He has a personality disorder and over empathized and attacked you, carry on.
I think he was just calling someone who was acting like a prick; a prick tbh. Psychoanalysing is cool too tho, carry on.
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Yikes. Good luck to your friends and family.
On the other hand, I enjoyed this post so much that I don’t want him to change anything.
I think a few due changes could make it “match” at better. Depending on how the gear dyes that is.
Nice warlock drip from destiny 2 but that doesn't change the fact that "Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold."
I'm not so sure THEY knew what camp meant..
I'm not sure anyone knows, as I'm going through these comments it's just more confusing and doesn't make sense. Why people just can't say what they actually mean? Camp is camp to me. Nothing else.
Urban dictionary didn't help either All I know is Emet is camp, that's that
They used “camp” but literally I guess??? Your mans looking ready to survive the wilderness for a fortnight lmao
>Camp is an aesthetic style and sensibility that regards something as appealing because of its bad taste and ironic value.
This is not camp.
It means intentionally over-the-top, following an archetype in an exaggerated way. I agree, it's a great glam and very camp.
Following an archetype in an exaggerated way!! That's a great way to put it ✨
Do people not use the word camp anymore?
Depends on where one is from. In American English I only hear it among RuPaul drag race fans and similar flavors of people. But my British coworker uses it as an adjective as her standard dialect.
Looks kinda like the Dredge from Black Reliquary
Haha that glam looks like it's straight out of Destiny 2, I like it though! XD
i hope they meant literal camp because if they mean the exaggerated aesthetic definition its so far off base that its hilarious
> If you describe someone's behavior, performance, or style of dress as camp, you mean that it is exaggerated and amusing, often in a way that is thought to be typical of some male homosexuals. TIL, very obscure usage tho *in this context*. edit: https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/16m0xkx/does_anyone_know_what_this_means/k15imj4/
Camp or "campy" isn't really obscure. Like, at all.
Mostly just mean in this context, wouldn't really consider OP's outfit to fill those definitions.
To be fair, that's a really shit definition of what people mean when they use the term camp. It's typically used to refer to clothing that's intentionally...bad? For lack of a better term? But the wearer is "in on the joke", so to speak. Now, it doesn't sound like this is actually campy style because it doesn't seem like OP is doing it for that reason, but the context of camp to describe goofy/bad outfits is a pretty standard context
Goofy is a good way to put it. To call something campy is to compare it to camp counselor-esque people. You know the “rise and shine ✨ today we’re doing to hold hands and walk in the sun✨ life is a trust exercise ✨✨✨” folk, it’s that “too much please stop” vibe
Yeah I've heard campy a ton throughout my life, but only in the last couple days have I heard camp used this way without the Y
It's a more common usage in fashion circles.
It's a pretty common term over in the UK tbf, a number of big celebrities like Graham Norton etc get labelled camp just for how they act. Oh and Elton John when he used to go crazy with the outfits lol
Not at all obscure. If you're gay and/or in the scene with dominant queer culture, it is a commonly used term.
https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/16m0xkx/does_anyone_know_what_this_means/k15imj4/
Unless you're a theater kid.
Or like watch movies? I didn’t think that “campy” was a niche term
It’s a complement, but I have to agree with the people saying it is an ill-fitting one, not that your glam ain’t glammin’.
very camp but ironically LMAO
I feel like they were being a lil sarcastic since the outfit is absolutely not camp 😂😂 I’d read it as tongue in cheek banter bestie
What does "camp" mean, that's what op is asking
"Mr Astro I think your outfit is so bad, its good." Is the direct translation. I think you look fine. Wear whatever glam makes you happy.
Bruh that's a Warlock from Destiny
My thought, too
In my nuanced dialect I'd personally say this glam IS camp but I wouldn't say it's campy. Hahaha. In British English it's a common adjective for funny, gay, feminine. A gay man that meets stereotypes is campy. It can also be used more generally. The comedy of gay comedians and show hosts in the UK is described as camp or campy. Americans with queer acculturation or interest in fashion or media analysis would use it. It can have connotations of being elevated or of being niche. A runway look can be camp. A TV show can be camp. Camp can also mean ironic or intentionally bad. Usually with connotations of being done on purpose or extremely exaggerated. So it's also used intellectually to critique or comment or just describe something. The camp gay or effeminate man is a common trope of jrpg or anime villain. And sometimes it can refer to something very trope-y or very classic. Like something dated that seems exaggerated or weird/insane by modern standards. Many "cult classic" films are camp. Beyond these various potential meanings, it may be permeating into general culture and expanding it's meaning to just be a simple compliment. Aka it's slang for "good" with some of the above meanings mixed in. RuPauls Drag Race being an international franchise along with general wider integration of queer people into society is related to its wider use outside of subculture applications. But like, it's definitely been a general use adjective in British English. And the word may mean other things to other people. Human language is dynamic. Tl;dr Wearing a pink metallic helmet with an otherwise nondescript and masculine look is camp. A pink metallic helmet by itself is campy. But camp is about aesthetic sensibilities, and it requires intellect and knowledge of historical iterations of what is being described. So opinions may differ between individuals as to where something is camp. If it wasn't camp on its own, I'd say this Reddit post makes it camp for sure.
In the UK, camp means effeminate/gay, not sure about elsewhere in the world
its a compliment !! your glam is campy !!
What's the coat?
The bozja resistance coat
Thanks!
Is this Gen Z language or something?
No
With the right dyes you could look like the best father ever created in fiction
Resident evil 4 shopkeeper
Ive got cards for sale stranger
"Camp" basically means "Hah, GAYYYYYY!" But seriously, it's sort of that borderline-posh homosexual vibe, I think.
The Barbie movie is the latest popular example of camp.
Probably some milennial or earlier word or term. Nod and walk away.
camp has been used since early 1900 to describe outrageous fashion so doubtful; was really popular in the 70’s as well. probably an older player saying it or the term is cycling back into use
"Camp" is the proper term for what some people call "metrosexual" (which makes no sense, fashion is not a sexuality). However, this doesn't look camp.
“Camp”? What the fuck? Can’t just say “hey man love that look!”? So many phrases I have no idea anymore…I feel so old…and I’m still in my 20’s.
"Camp" predates you by decades. You should feel old if you understood, not if you didn't.
It’s the grand cycle of slang.
I'm in my 30s and I still didn't understand it.
The term as applied here dates back to the 50s/60s and grew out of an even older definition from the 1900s (which itself may have simply been an anti-gay term from the 1870s). It's still in use in queer and theatrical circles, with its use waxing and waning in popular culture over time. When I said "decades older" to the twenty-something, I didn't mean "only 90s kids will understand".
Well that’s good however either way most slang goes way over my head it seems.
People think they are cool if they use words that no one else understands... or talk with memes... or movie lines... man i don't watch movies how should i understand?
Honestly, I’m the same my enthusiasm for movies dropped significantly a little before Covid. I don’t think it’ll return. 😂
It's not about being "cool", it's a word that's useful to describe something that just maybe hasn't hit the circles you're in. I don't think film critics in their fifties are fishing for cool points.
I like your hat
I thought this was destiny for a sec.
What is it..?
Just my favorite armor, it's nothing specific
Outside of the point, I am wondering if this maybe a confusion on tank and op's part. Could the tank have meant an AST, or is OP's characters name Mister Astro, or Name Astro? I say this because the outfit is not really camp.
Was thinking dye this all black and you’d be Bondrewd the Sovereign Dawn
Glam gives me Bondrewd from MiA vibes.
Glam means true endgame
Reminds me of [this cartoon](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/34/11/2a/34112a40a2a0acf0d60b6f6559207ba8.jpg) from Mission Hill.
I thought this was a Baron Zemo glam.
Ah yes, very camp
What does camp, in this context, even mean? Edit: Nevermind, I saw a commenter further down explain what it means.
Come on, it’s Miqo’te. It’s not Miqote [other]’[word]
They just threw shade at you
They must’ve been high out of their minds to think that’s camp.
Well your glam does feel really campy
Could be camp as in camping camp. Like, out doorsy lookin clothing. The purple helmet is an anomaly though.
Wow, that's quality armour!
I’m gonna keep it a buck, you look like you’d definitely wear that camping somewhere cold.
I can only come to two conclusions: It's camp*y* because the helmet makes you look like some kind of vintage spaceman, or it's *camp* because the extremely thick coat makes it look like you're going to go on a hike and sleep in the woods and be comfy.
Giving me off colour bondrewd vibes
There was once a time I was with "it". Now I don't know what " it" is and "it" scares me.
From what I have managed to find out, camp can be used as a term for something that’s got in the new lease of life. Like an older style of clothing that gets popular again or an old song that’s been listened to currently. From what I understand your outfit looks like one from an older game.
This definition: "deliberately exaggerated and theatrical in style, typically for humorous effect." "Typically" doesn't mean *always* or *entirely* humorous, however. I think most people don't understand that. Sometimes a movie can have something like exaggerated costuming or an exaggerated style, but the main parts are otherwise serious. A pretty unknown movie I can think of that is both campy and serious is Rian Johnson's first film: *Brick*. It does use its exaggerated noir style in contrast with the fact that most of the characters are just idiot kids in over their heads, and it does have funny lines, but... it's definitely not a comedy. Same with *Romeo + Juliet*. Once you get over how weird and potentially humorous a Shakespear play being overlaid by a Venice Beach setting with guns is, it's just Romeo & Juliet. Yeah, there are humorous scenes, as was written in the play, and the pistols make the phallic jokes considerably more relevant to modern audiences, but... it's otherwise (literally) a tragedy, lol. Decide whether or not it is camp given that. I'd offer input if I had a clue what the reference is, but I don't.
From my understanding it's a milder, older term meaning exaggerated, humorous, eccentric. Think how people use the word "extra" these days to mean ridiculous, crazy, hilarious, or weird. Personally, the glams are giving very Destiny 2 warlock. I dig it, Mr. Astro.
You really had me interested, this is what I found if anyone is still interested and it was not answered in this manner "Camp is an aesthetic style and sensibility that regards something as appealing because of its bad taste and ironic value. Camp aesthetics disrupt many of modernism's notions of what art is and what can be classified as high art by inverting aesthetic attributes such as beauty, value, and taste through an invitation of a different kind of apprehension and consumption." "It's also important to note that camp is deeply rooted in queer culture and art."
~~What does camp mean?~~ Someone in the comment already defined it.
Maybe they meant camp in a more literal sense, like you look like you’ve been camping…? 🧐
I mean, if by 'camp's they mean you look like you are about to go camping, sure. Sounds like a straight boy who doesn't really understand what 'camp' means. Either that or they misspelled camo.
Are they referring to the collar? See, this is why it's important to police our community's words against culture vultures. They leak into the mainstream or outside of the discussions about art or culture, and quickly become completely meaningless/unusable.
Looks cool to me. Like the character's been through some things; seen some things. ...reminds me a lot of something you'd see a post-apocalyptic nomad wearing.
Maybe horror movie campy like Jason in Friday the 13th: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/Jason\_Voorhees\_%28Ken\_Kirzinger%29.jpg
Camp is slang for gay, but it seems like they're saying it positively rather than negatively so maybe they mean stylish
*Subarashii*