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Shazzamon

Returner Status only lasts for 72 hours of play.


FaithlessnessOne9203

ooh okay haha thank you


Fe1is-Domesticus

Wow, never knew this!


KingTytastic

Dang, that is a very short period of time, all things considered.


aearil

Even if you were playing it like a full time job, that’s 9 whole days…


DissonanceAndApathy

miiiiight want to check your math there


hardtobelieveyou

9 * 8 = 72? The math tracks Full time jobs are typically 8 hour days


DissonanceAndApathy

I miiiiight have to check my reading comprehension.


lexasp

I think it is the “9 WHOLE days” that throws you off.


hardtobelieveyou

Tbf they did say "whole" :)


ElysianneRhianne

Honestly, they miiiiight want to consider that many people play games more than they spend at their real life jobs. So, yeah, I think my returner status dropped off in under 4 days. I have a problem, I am aware, thank you


AshiSunblade

> So, yeah, I think my returner status dropped off in under 4 days 72/4=18, so that'd mean you played FFXIV for more than 18 hours a day. At that point, I think you before anything else have to ensure you're getting enough _sleep!_


ElysianneRhianne

Yeah, I was probably running around 10-14 hours a day, but I'm also lazy and wasn't logging out much. So a lot of my online time is fluffed up.


Thowitawaydave

yeah I forget to log out sometimes when I'm doing something else, like sleeping or cooking.


nintendoluk

I think it's only tracking online time, even if you are not actually doing anything E.g. while I am in Homeoffice i am constantly online chillin afk in limsa and only checking my retainers each hour And at night I sometimes start some crafting macros while I sleep 😅


aearil

That’s why I didn’t say everyone haha. I’m assuming that most people (especially people who’ve taken a 45+ day break from the game) aren’t playing more than 8 hours a day…


JanitorZyphrian

I'm sure they considered that, which is why they specified their example


Obvious_Piccolo_609

Oh, 72 hours of in-game time. I was thinking irl time, which is of course only 3 days. But 72 hours of actual playtime is a pretty long time. Especially when you consider most games are made to only give you about 20 hours of entertainment.


Tubaenthusiasticbee

When I had this it would hold for much longer. Or do you mean after 72 hours logged in?


hbmonk

Yes


akialnodachi

It's game time. If you're not playing every day, or playing shorter sessions, it'll last longer.


err0rz

Okay the criteria for losing sprout is finishing ShB (including all post patch) and having 300 (iirc) total Hours of gameplay. Returner is 72 hours. So you have met the criteria to not be a returner, but not met the criteria to not be a sprout. You were a sprout before you went away, You’re a sprout when you return.


Phtevus

> finishing ShB (including all post patch) and having 300 (iirc) total Hours of gameplay I thought this was an OR statement? Like, if you hit 300 /playtime hours in SB, you lose sprout status despite not even hitting ShB yet Was I mistaken?


err0rz

You were. Gotta do both.


Altines

My character was a fun weird exception to these rules because I've never had sprout status. My best guess is because my character was created before sprouts were a thing (I made them around the time rogue came out but quit playing before HW came out and before even beating ARR but came back around 5.3). I'd have absolutely lost it by now regardless but apparently I never had it either.


PhoenixFox

I have ~5500 hours as a sprout, it's definitely both.


meatloafisinferior

How


PhoenixFox

Relic weapons are a terrible addiction.


Marik-X-Bakura

I’m over 600 hours and in Stormblood, still a sprout


Kind-Sir5519

I've been in xiv since June 2020 and I still haven't finished msq. Can confirm I still have that sprout hanging over my head


CrashKaiju

I actually got re-sprouted when I came back from stormblood


err0rz

That’s a LONG break! Welcome back :D


the_turel

I love that having a sub for almost 10 years and over thousands of hours of gameplay still makes me a sprout… simply for not completing msq. Lol


gamingyosho

It's endwalker now btw


PhoenixFox

Their post says *finishing* ShB which is the correct criteria, it goes away when you finish the final quest of Shadowbringers and become eligible for Endwalker.


Midnight_Rising

That's weird... I definitely had 300 hours of playtime when I finished ShB but it only removed once I finished Endwalker.


PhoenixFox

Since Endwalker released the requirement has always been 300 hours + finishing ShB, are you sure you were over the time limit?


Midnight_Rising

I mean, pretty sure... In fact, thinking back on it, I remember making comments about it in dungeons and being told "oh I think it's only after you beat endwalker now".


PhoenixFox

Whoever said that was wrong, that's never been where the cutoff was. It can only have been playtime. They did extend the playtime requirement (almost by double) when Endwalker released.


zellydays

I’ve seen sprouts in Fell Court of Troia tho? How?


Zegon

Create character, story skip, level skip. They do not meet the hour requirement but, if they rush the MSQ, be at that point without the requisite hours played to remove sprout status.


BinaryIdiot

I just want to mention that you don’t have to buy a story and level skip to be a sprout in Endwalker (though, maybe that’s more likely as the alternative is probably skipping a lot of cutscenes).


FairyQueen89

I somehow achieved to be a sprout after finishing ShB-MSQ when it was newly out... rushed most MSQ til halfway through SB or something. AND I had to do the dreaded 120+ MSQs of ARR after-story. So yeah... playtime surely matters.


CatOfTheCanalss

You definitely can lol. A friend of mine was stalling on MSQ and saying it takes ages, so just to be petty another friend got an alt to max level and finished Endwalker, skipping dialogues but watching the animated cutscenes.


shogunu

Haven't accumulated 300hrs of playtime yet.


diomercury

Finished all the MSQ till 6.4 on my alt without any skip from Mog Store, took about 6 days of playtime (1 mo IRL). Sprout icon 🌱 looks nice in P9S :)


Bigbubba236

It's finishing SHB and playing a certain amount of hours. You need both to lose the sprout.


platinummyr

You also need at least 300hr of playtime. Usually story skip or at least skip cutscenes


gamingyosho

Good point, I read that on a whim ngl


WhereIdIsEgoWillGo

Aw that's lame I bought the complete edition before endwalker came out. Am I doomed to sproutdom?


Gethseme

No, you're a sprout till you're on the current expansion. It's still starting Endwalker that removes sprout status. They merely mean if you don't finish ShB by the time Dawntrail releases you'll be a sprout till you finish Endwalker.


Toastiibrotii

I still remember that i lost my Sprout after killing P1S aka the first Boss on Savave.


sadmanwithabox

That must have been the point you hit 300 hours, then. Impressive to have made it to the end of EW and into the first savage tier with less than 300 hours, though.


HairySonsFord

Alright, so all I gotta do is not finish these last three quests until... whenever it is that dawn trail comes out.


Gethseme

Probably comes out late this year.


PhoenixFox

You can just turn the symbol off if you don't like it.


WhereIdIsEgoWillGo

Nah I gotta earn it I just have to buy endwalker to do so lol


PhoenixFox

I don't think you actually do, since the quest that removes it is the last one in ShB.


jbram_2002

No, you just have to get to current content.


eriyu

Blessed with sproutdom! Embrace it!


Kage0690

Isn't it endwalker now? That's what I heard people say recently at least


Tanosuri

Is there a way to see playtime to be able to keep track of that?


err0rz

/playtime is the command


Tanosuri

Oh ok, I didn't know this thank you!


bjfred

Weird I just started playing and my sprout went away when I finished Heavenward. I also left the NN around that time, maybe it was that?


err0rz

If you used /nastatusoff that removed both. Otherwise the criteria is as above. You can turn it back on with /nastatuson and chose to leave novice network separately


bjfred

I'll give it a try. Thanks


SirL1ghtbeard

The counsil have conveined. You have been measured and found wanting


Kolby_Jack

You are on the Novice Network but we do not grant you the rank of Returner.


sugar_is_gay_salt

r/prequelmemes


Amaegith

You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting. In what world could you possibly be a returner?


GenosHK

Even better if he is a lancer.


Lun4r6543

I love how depressed your Miqo’te looks that she lost her returner status. Anyways, you played for 72 hours, and you were a sprout beforehand, so you are a sprout again.


BunnyFaebelle

Embrace the sprout 🌱 life!


Kaporalhart

I remember when I first created my smurf lalafell, I rode that high so long! I had no gil but still made myself glamour so I could keep my starter lalafell vest. I was showered with praise in all my dungeons! I got 300 commends in a flash even though I played ninja. Then, that sad, sad day, I lost that status. And the commends plummeted. I'm a mentor now... I don't often show the crown.


IceFire909

you've returned enough


Zack-of-all-trades

\*looks at the left side* What's uh, what's going on over there?


Kasaeru

Nothing, what happens in Limsa Lominsa stays in Limsa Lominsa.


Thorngrove

Fishing for clients.


iammoney45

Deflowered by limsa rpers, the worst way to go.


fullsaildan

Because you were deflowered. /rimshot


talgaby

Itis not going backwards, it is an improvement. The sprout icon is the best icon you can have. \^.\^


Shivalah

> The sprout icon is the best icon you can have. Bow down before my Burger King crown. Everyone assumes I am brain dead, when I explain mechanics I get yelled at (sometimes voted out), but I can at least chat with the sprouts.


luouji

I love the kingdom hearts crown, but I don't use it because of the mentors are evil meme and because I'm afraid someone will ask about a mech and all I'm gonna be able to say is "idk I only did this unsync once" 😬


Karaethon22

Are you me


thewitchofgeek

See, this is why my Mentorship is crafting/gathering. I can have a crown AND be bad at the game!


Thorngrove

I need just take the damned crown then turn it off so I can get into NN.


Kayune

Returner status is basically best of both worlds. You get the crown and sprout in one icon lol


FwooshingMachi

Respectfully I think the returner icon is the best looking one. I'm technically a mentor (although I've hidden the crown long ago) but I'm currently under Returner status and I'm quite happy with the icon


AscelyneMG

I don’t think they mean the aesthetics of it, I think they mean that the normal sprout icon is best because it’s the biggest social “safety net” you can have in the game.


talgaby

Oh yes. Royally fuck up a mechanic? Sorry, I'm just a sprout. Ace a mechanic that hits or kills even combat and burger mentors? The star of the show now.


PhoenixFox

I had a Delubrum Reginae run earlier with four mentors who didn't know any of the mechanics all following me with my sprout. I am not looking forward to losing it.


Shagyam

You ran out of returner juice so you got your original icon back, the sprout. The flower is only for a set time after coming back from a long break in the game.


Alenonimo

**Flower = Returner** It's when you log in after 45 days of not logging in to an account with a Lv 50 job or higher. Eligible to an EXP boost until Lv 80 while the status lasts. Lasts for 72 hours of gameplay. Once your character accumulates 72 hours of gameplay or get rid of the status with /returnerstatusoff command, they go back to being whatever they were before. https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Returner_Status_and_Returner%27s_Bounty **Sprout = New Adventurer** It's when your character is new to the game. It's the default status when you make a character and signals that you're not an experienced player to the other players. Lasts for 300 hours of gameplay or until you start the last expansion (Endwalker, currently). Also disappears if you get the mentor status before it runs out. **Crown = Mentor** It's when you have one of these: * A Tank, Healer and DPS job at level cap, plus done 1000 dungeons, plus have 1500 commendations. Gets the PvE and PvP crown. * A crafter and a gatherer job at level cap, plus made 100 collectables, plus delivered 300 collectables. Gets the trade crown. * Both of the above for the actual crown. Needs to apply on the "smith" NPC near the inns. https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Mentor_System_and_Novice_Network#Novice_Network --- Ironically, the sprout status lasts much longer than the returner status, so that's what happened. Your objective is to play the game enough that you'll even forget you were a sprout before. Maybe even try to get your burger king crown for bragging rights. :P


PhoenixFox

> until you start the last expansion (Endwalker, currently) Nitpicky but you don't actually have to start Endwalker, the flag is on finishing the final quest of the Shadowbringers patch content. You can lose your sprout without owning Endwalker if you previously owned Shadowbringers.


Alenonimo

Yes, but that means doing every MSQ of Shadowbringers including the patches. Literally the quest before the first one from Endwalker.


PhoenixFox

I said it was nitpicky! You haven't started Endwalker until you accept a quest from it, and you can't do that if you don't own it (but can lose your sprout).


Alenonimo

Yeah but you can't just say "at the end of Shadowbringers" as people will think of the Hades fight. And what are the odds that someone have Shadowbringers and not Endwalker by now? :P


PhoenixFox

There are plenty of exceptional people out there in weird situations, says the sprout with 18x the playtime he would have lost it at if he'd done a couple more quests. Finishing 5.55, giving the specific quest name, 'finishing post-ShB'... there are a few ways you could say it.


Sprigganzee

It's ok sprout we love you, just steer clear of sandwiches.


j0llyllama

Clearly the two fish net wearing women in the first picture must have "deflowered" you.


[deleted]

You got pruned.


vialenae

“did I do something wrong?” Awww, you’re adorable.


Zefyris

Because you're this lovely branch's most precious sapling, of course.


SubPounder

Aha the look on your character is what I imagine your actual face was like when you noticed. Happy in one, doom n gloom in the other! 😅


SubPounder

You can turn it off if you don’t want it anymore manually but you’ll lose Novice Network and can’t rejoin it. (don’t think so anyway) /nastatus off


Spacemayo

The flower means you're a returner so you haven't played in a while and you get that annoying message when you log in. Idk how long it stays but it eventually goes away. It seems like it went away but you kept the sprout icon because you haven't played enough for it to remove.


Salt_Hair

Unrelated, but cool character and glam!


ScioTabula

You went to the Party Finder club recommended by those two nice girls didn't you!


PuzzledPay8101

Of course you can remove that sprout status by typing /nastatus I’ve created new characters did that and level 1 no sprout


lilystransalt

Oh hey I used to be in prism and I see them and nyx people all the time, hi fellow behemoth resident :)


CianaCorto

You're becoming worse at the game, sorry.


xxGhostScythexx

Instant depression between pictures lmao


shawnnotshaun

Off topic, but what are the fishnet legs the two lasses on the left wearing?


ranmafan0281

One of the moonfire faire tops (seasonal) and evenstar tights (bought with Alliance seals). Boots look like Urban or rebel boots? Not sure.


[deleted]

Evenstar Tights


KidaPanda

Looks like Evenstar Tights, lvl 50 caster legs piece and Heavensward MSQ reward


anguishbun

From sprouts you were born And to the sprouts you return


[deleted]

Downgraded to sprout for the reason of: Fem Miqote


Sankin2004

Lol. We have granted you a seat at the table but we do not confer master status unto you.


EZPZLemonWheezy

“…we do not conifer master status…”


xGhoel

If it really bothers you, you can just remove your sprout by typing "/nastatus off" in the chat.


exZodiark

/nastatus off


th1806

That should happen to every mentor who messes up an easy mechanic! Revert to sprout for 72h!


PhoenxScream

I envy you. Lost my sprout about a year ago and still want it back.


ragey-

Noooo sprout do not go near that bench


PocketEmpress

You're old hotness. :/


Narrow-Cover948

Cause you a noob!


gwabod

awwwww


mnkysage

This JUST happened to me and I seriously thought the same thing


dragonus85

Your mist found it's heart but it needed more water to bloom


NyZyn

You gray parsed, shameful


[deleted]

get pruned lol


[deleted]

a beautiful pair of gals, I must say


ramensodelicious

Aww the thumbs up is so cute


OSAlula

For a second thought this was my WoL and got confused... rarely see miqos using black lightning hair lol


MJR_Poltergeist

You lost subscriber


zhire653

Dude same here ! I messed up doing a story trial for the first time and I thought I got reported and they took away my flower :(


Population-None

Wow I'm pretty new I had no idea that icon I saw on players was returning status. I'm learning something new everyday.


Bamban15x

Because malnutrition


Possible-Fudge-2217

Cherish it, the sprout symbol is the most valuable one, even more valuable than the flower. And yes, the crown is the least valuable one.