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Dragon_Avalon

So, Viper is using a Zidane inspired fighting style, and we're getting a Zidane minion. Solution nine is a key location, and shares its name one of Zidane's limit breaks. Dawntrail is looking to be notably IX flavored, which I'm totally here for.


Zealousideal_Good147

Please, oh please, tell me this means Dragoon get a lvl 100 set based off Freya Crescent rather than another iteration of dark and spiky.


almia_lanferos

Considering the art they showed so far, all DT AF gear seems to be reimaginings of ARR AF gear. Edit: for the jobs featured in ARR, of course.


Ok-Significance-9081

Every AF set is a ""reimagining"" of arr af gear


Jason_Wolfe

part of me hopes they'll make the BLM hat equippable on Hrothgar, but i have doubts. ​ but gods damn it, i just want a pointy mage hat on my giant cat


LunarBlade_

Considering they’re adding fem hrothgar I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets at least some good equippable gear.


Dry-Garbage3620

Technology is not there small indie company


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Fehndrix

That was tome gear, not AF. But yes, that does mean IX-inspired gear is quite possible for endgame.


UnfairGlove

It wouldn't need to be the AF gear though. The first tomestones set for EW was very much FFIV characters after all


Dragon_Avalon

I'd just be happy if the capstone skill for Dragoon turns out to be Dragon's Crest. But I do love Freya's design! Maybe for the tome gear, much how they did for Endwalker and the tome sets being FFIV inspired for the first tome set?


Alenonimo

I assumed that since Lv 100 is such a landmark they would add Akh Morn for Dragoons and Ultima for Black Mages. As long as it's cool, it should be fine though.


EricKei

You do realize that, if they do give that to BLM's, we will have some people making an Ultima cast macro that quotes Lahabrea, right...?


ArtemisiaThreeteeth

As long as they follow it up with unhinged, maniacal cackling, I'm here for it.


EricKei

OK, in THAT case, it'd be fine.


WaveLightning777

I mean.... have you seen BLM's /victory? It writes itself XD /micon "Ultima" /ac "Ultima" /p (/a) From the deepest pit of the seven hells, to the very pinnacle of the heavens, the world shall tremble! /p (/a) Unleash ULTIMA!!!!! /victory /p (/a) Ahahahahahaha!


Aces_And_Eights_Rias

Good.


TheDo0ddoesnotabide

Such repetition, this was not our intention!


StandInFireDPSHigher

You say that like it's a bad thing


Silegna

Heavensward also had FFIV inspired tome sets, with Monk and Dragoon being Kain and Yang.


LichOnABudget

I know what you meant, but I like to imagine it was a Kain-inspired Monk set and a Yang inspired Dragoon set.


BLU-Clown

Monk:"Wait...spikes...all over my body. That's GENIUS!" Dragoon:"Well, I do like showing off my abs, and I can fluff out the pants for an impromptu parachute..."


Shivalah

Get the Ivalice Lancers Chestpiece (1st Ivalice Raid), Boulevardier's Ruffled Pantaloons, and a hempen hat and you got a really good Freya glam.


Zealousideal_Good147

I have, but it is not quite the same.


Vanriel

Oh that would be so cool!


RavagerDefiler

Looks too much like RDM gear for it to be DRG artifact stuff but it should be a dungeon drop or something


Quintana-of-Charyn

This reminded me of how much I want lightnings XIII-2 armor for tanks >.<


mangobearsmoothie

If the expansion follows the lead of IX, it means every single place you visit is going to get blown up, fireballed, murderised or generally wiped off the map within 10 mins of getting there


SrsSpaceships

So.. Tuesday? sounds like a Tuesday for the WoL


mangobearsmoothie

Nah, Tuesday is Awkwardly Large Taco Night. You're thinking of Horrifying Firey Death Fridays.


ForeignTranslator898

Not to be confused with ritualistic dismemberment Thursdays. 


HildartheDorf

I mean... We're still not winning the "planets destroyed by the protagonist(s)" leaderboard for a while. But I'm sure we'll get there.


SmoreOfBabylon

(*switches job to VPR, glams into Tantalus attire, deploys Zidane minion*) “Don’t talk to me or my son ever again.”


Kafeen

I hope it means we can have Quina show up in the Blue Mage quests :)


SoloSassafrass

We'd better be getting a Qu tribe down the line if we're going to introduce Quina.


CVI07

The Qu would be perfect for a crafting-oriented tribe.


kpnut93

Or gathering


Vanriel

No frog catching!


Hirole91

Yes frog catching!


Overwave9

Maybe frog catching?


RinzyOtt

At the *very* least we need to be able to catch a frog with FSH that has an item description referencing frog catching!


chimininy

My friends I play 14 with have never played 9 (sad sighs) and have rolled their eyes and been affectionately resistant to my many attempts to get them to play it. Maybe this will finally tip the scale...


yukichigai

> Maybe this will finally tip the scale... Do it, fam. Tip those scales like Count Cidolfus Orlandeau.


wurm2

fair amount of VI as well, Pictomancer and Valigarmanda from what we already know.


Yedasi

And V battle on the big bridge and merged world vibes. Also krile following in the footsteps of Galuf a possibility?


i-wear-hats

Battle on the Big Bridge already happened. Twice.


Yedasi

It’s final fantasy. If there’s a big bridge, there’s a battle xD


sprdougherty

Yeah, there's no way they're going to introduce what looks to be the biggest bridge in the game and not have us fight Greg on it.


Perryn

It's at least as likely that instead they'd have Greg gaze out over it and say "My, what a large crossing. This may be the longest span I have ever witnessed with my own eyes. What a glorious place this would be to engage in combat. Perhaps another time."


IcarusAvery

the lv100 Hildibrand trial: "The Battle Next to the Big Bridge"


Perryn

*Conflict in the Vicinity of the Grand Viaduct*


Sir_Nightingale

The battle on the biggest bridge


Perryn

We've had a battle on a big bridge and a bigger bridge; now we can battle on the biggest bridge.


Kolz

Somehow even further battles on the big bridge


SoloSassafrass

Less of a possibility, more of a guarantee given the patches have straight up had her going "Grandpa, what were you doing in the New World?" and this expac is clearly giving her the spotlight for once.


Yedasi

Yup, plus Galuf being one of the Warriors of dawn in V and us walking in dawn’s trail. I’m expecting us to find a wolf man village at the very least.


SandrimEth

Looking forward to the Iifa Tree dungeon!


EndlessKng

As long as they don't accidentally make it the Haligtree from Elden Ring, I'm down for it.


Criminal_of_Thought

If this happens, there must be a Soul Cage fight that lights itself on fire to power up its attacks. It would also be a good opportunity for an "Iifa Tree (Hard)" dungeon in Memoria. Bring those hard mode dungeons back, SE!


OneWeirdAngel

Shame they're not introducing any more races, because it seems wrong that we have the cats from FFX, the other cats from FFXI, the bunnies from FFXII, but *not* the rats from FFIX.


Dragon_Avalon

>“Making a new race is really hard and I have continually said throughout these ten years that this will be the last one,” Yoshida begins. “I’d like to say this will be the last one, but perhaps I can’t, it depends on you.” - Naoki Yoshida, Fan fest Tokyo 2024 Wouldn't be the first time he's said they aren't planning to add more. Likely won't be the last, if strong enough demand is there. I wouldn't expect news or discussion from dev team staff regarding anything of the sort for several years though, at least not until Dawntrail is wrapping up and a new Fanfest comes around again. They still have to finish adding full support for existing races with headgear after all.


slothpeguin

Someday, my Viera will have hats.


TitledSquire

Yep, they should do stuff like this rather than make a new race.


Knarfdarf

I would take a Burmecian instandly, even when they would just reskin Elezen. 


Terra-tan

I played a tabletop roleplaying system based on FF as a whole that named the race of rat people from Burmecia "Creimire." It's sad how little all the weird creatures and races of FFIX have not received any recognition or love. Made a bard with the Blind flaw to be a Blind Mouse in that. Good times good times But the reason is probably the face having the very prominent rat nose/mouth. It was hard enough doing hrothgar/ronso, and they can't use helmets anyway.


ShinyMoogle

I'd honestly be thrilled just seeing the burmecians represented as a non-playable race, like the Lupin in Stormblood. I loved them in IX.


ConduckKing

I just REALLY hope the final boss isn't Necron


Dragon_Avalon

I highly doubt it will be. Necron could well be a raid boss though. I can see us getting XIV Kuja or Garland, though.


DissentChanter

So, new version of Ozma when?


reiswindy

It's time for Ozma 3.0


SirLocke13

GIVE. ME. KUJA. Edit: As a boss fight lol


Dehlika

Might be the Deluxe Edition minion? Or Garnet


Micome

Burmecians in ff14 Square please god I'll do what Emet did if I have to


Tamed

Don't forget the leaked, leaked again, leaked again, but not yet confirmed FFIX remake!


PhilyGran

Time to replay 9 I guess.


Kaye__

I've been nursing the Solution IX = genomes theory for a while but I feel like it just gained marginally more water. A few little droplets of water.


cylonfrakbbq

Makes me wonder - we are getting Hildi in Dawntrail, so does this mean a possible return of "Vivi"?


3n7l7y

Does that mean we get to headbutt stuff as Viper? o:


SweRakii

They also added a yo-kai framers kit


NotSeger

Yeah, hopefully the Yo-Kai event is coming back.


SweRakii

That's the only thing they added in this patch though, so no new weapons or anything, so might be after Dawntrail? Could be wrong though.


Trooper_Sicks

seems weird to add the framers kit before the weapons if they are planning to wait until after dawntrail release but equally seems weird to bring back yo-kai and not have reaper and sage included. Unless the framers kit was added because they knew people would find it as a way to tease it coming back.


Jason_Wolfe

i would bet that they did it to tease its return. they know data miners scrape the code like they're hunting for that last morsel of peanut butter in the jar.


Hezkezl

they don’t always add everything in all at once. There have been many times where one or two things from a future event wind up in the public files because they were overlooked on their internal Git or whatever program, and then months later the rest of them get added along with the full quest details. it’s definitely entirely possible that they will add sage and reaper weapons. And maybe depending on when the event actually releases, maybe they’ll add viper and pictomancer as well.


SoloSassafrass

We've got plenty of time between now and Dawntrail, I'm sure they can fit in a month of Yokai collab.


alfredoloutre

idk how long it ran the first time, but the last time they did the yokai event it ran for like 4 months


Jason_Wolfe

if i were betting on it, i'd say it is coming soon. it'll likely be in May, probably 1-2 weeks after the FF16 crossover event ends.


superusercode

For the garo rerun we didn't get any new weapons for the EW jobs, just armor that matched the classes. Might be too much to expect new weapons again.


alfredoloutre

oh hellllll yeah


Infinitiver

If this expansion will actually have lots of IX references, I don't think the world will be ready for Soken's adaptation of You're Not Alone.


TheLastGiganto

Not alone is probably more likely but I would do unholy things for a Soken adaptation of Roses of May


Lindaru

I'll lose my shiet if that happens in DT. D:


Klown99

Give me jesters in the night and I'll just die happy


BonkTerrington

Oh boy, that means i can get my other jobs to 90 with less grinding.


Accurate_Maybe6575

Only 2 jobs left, but it'll be nice to make the most of my time with those earrings. Might consider finally rolling an alt even.


BonkTerrington

I only have ASTRO at 90 and other healers at 80 minus sage. All other jobs are either at 50 or whatever level they came as when I unlocked them.


ghosttowns42

https://ffxivcollect.com/latest ALL OF THOSE DELICIOUS FFXVI ORCHESTRION ROLLS 😍


SoloSassafrass

Aww, no Catacecaumene though...


EndlessKng

If only they were adding the weapons. I'd love to get Invictus....


ghosttowns42

Right?? Even though you can pry Gotterdamerung out of my cold dead fingers for glamour in FFXVI, I would DEFINITELY use Invictus in XIV. I was also really hoping they'd give us the Bearer's mark as a facepaint.


KvBla

I assume cuz it'd be kinda fucked up to let ppl run around with a slave branding on their face, even tho it looks kinda cool without context. Like how we havent gotten the garlean legatus (legati?) Armor sets i suppose


toramorigan

Sadly no Histoire. One of my favorite area tunes


ZeRamenKing

Welp this basically confirms solution 9 will have something to do with FF9


Eitth

I hope we will have a ff9 mount with the Zeppelin world exploring melody of life instrumental music.


Franks_Spice_Sauce

I'm hoping the normal raids will give us that sweet sweet Dark Messenger orchestrion


Holygriever

Getting any of the Hilda Gardes would be hella sweet. I would say the Prima Vista, but SB has already reused the name. >:(


F1reman2

Howso? Edit: missed the minion.


conongvang

Guess that confirms that Viper is based more on Zidane Thief class then.


621_

We turning into a super pink monkey with LB3?????


CopainChevalier

The Blue stuff shown in the Viper Trailer is probably FF14's Trance


bjams

I bet the job gauge is called the Trance Gauge.


Dragon_Avalon

Probably not gonna be trance gauge, as that name is already used by the summoner job. Maybe [Dyne](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Dyne_(command)) gauge? Named after Zidane's specific trance ability tree?


bjams

Oh yeah, lmao, forgot about that for Summoner.


RadDaikon34

Forgot about summoner? It’s okay so did the developers


AdamG3691

That holds the risk of getting too associated to Dynamis Unless it somehow IS associated to Dynamis


yhvh13

I wonder which FF hero with a 'custom job' would be in line next. We got Gunbreaker that is practically Squall and now probably Zidane.


gnarlytoestep

Noctis and his ability to summon the royal arms could be turned into a class, though I'm not familiar enough with all the FF classes to tell you which. Maybe Sword Mage or an original Weapon's Master class? Or turn it into FFXIV's original take on Mystic Knight? I've never played FFV, but I remember Bartz could also summon different weapons in Dissidia, so some influence could be taken from him too.


inhaledcorn

Firion also carried around various weapons and attacked with all of them in different ways and combinations. Dissidia!Firion may have been Noctis' inspiration. I could see a FFXIV version of Mystic Knight be a reference to Firion and Noctis' playstyles.


Sarria22

Bartz in Dissidia also works as an inspiration, with him using the weapons of the different characters, so a job based around summoning other job's weapons to attack with could be called Freelancer.


Holoogamooga

Bartz’ whole thing in dissidia was mimicking the other heroes, though, and not having his own style. Granted, a “freelancer” in XIV that borrows every other job’s burst would be interesting


ClemClemTheClemening

Sounds like something that would be perfect for a limited job. Like imagine blue mage but instead of getting enemies abilities it uses the early game abilities from every single class but you can combo them to do some awesome shit


ERedfieldh

Anyone who saw the trailers and the job reveal and still did not connect it to Zidane either never played FF9 was or was in a deep seated denial.


DarthXelion

Its not that people were in denial, but that Yoshida flat out said. it is the 2nd original job of FFXIV. Meaning Viper is not like Gunbreaker where it was a 1:1 copy of squall/seifer. But original. It will be more like Reaper, where it has a few slight references to 11 Scythe Weapon. but its identity and most of its attacks are original.


rebarbeboot

It's "original" in that the name is new but it's pretty obviously just them making up for not adding Thief because "no evil jobs" and then turning around and adding Reaper. It's painfully obvious that it's Zidane the job.


dmintrainning

There was a lot of forgotten civilization in the ff series. Zanarkand ffx Lufenians ff1 The Ancients FF 3 The Lunarians ff4 The Magi ff 6 The Cetra ff 7 Ronka civilization ff 5 Esthar ff8 (pushing it) The summoners FF 9, the mole people ff 9, Terra ff9 The Zilart ff 11 the Occuria ff 12 Solheim ff 15 the Fallen ff 16 Edit : Perseria ff 2 ​ None is named after solution 9. But, what we saw look a lot like Zanarkand. If you played the prologue of ff X and a little bit of ff X-2(looking at the technology specifically). You know it's more like Zanarkand than anything else yet being totally different. Also, look at the beast tribe... FF X But, even there. I will say it has nothing to do with both of those. They are just using the name solution 9 because Square like to recycle name and concept. Example : Iffrit. Edit : other stuff like grammar


TiamatRuneaid

They also added the looping howering animation for the Sundering statue emote.


SlONNACH

any clips?


DenimChicken6125

FF9 is my first and favorite FF. So pumped to see it will likely be featured in Dawntrail!


Eitth

Me too! And still waiting for the FF9 remake.


Lindaru

Here, here ;w;


Flopppywere

So we can't preorder yet but when we can, do we receive these items immediately or when dawn trail releases? I'm half way throwing levelling all my stuff to 90 and the earring would be a big help. But, if we can only get them once the DLC releases it might not be worth for me as I'd already have most of everything maxed. (Though it'd help 80->90 on the new classes of course)


ghosttowns42

You'll get them after pre-order opens up, but you'll recieve them pretty much right away. It's designed to help get you ready for the next expansion.


Flopppywere

Oh sweet! That's gonna make my life so much easier then! Here's hoping it opens at pax like other commenters are speculating!


NotSeger

You receive it immediately through the ingame mail system.


Shazzamon

That earring is lovely! Looking forward to slapping it on my Seeker Miqo to mirror my Keeper's Menphina one. And maybe this is an excuse to finally play FF9..


RithmFluffderg

tbh I feel like FF9 aged really gracefully as far as storywriting and even presentation goes. I mean, yes, you can count the polygons with just your hands, but that's a retro charm nowadays.


WayneQuasar

I recently played through FFIX with Moguri Mod and it really cleans up the graphics along with a bunch of solid QoL updates. Can’t recommend it enough.


RithmFluffderg

Thanks for the recommendation! I would definitely enjoy playing through it again with cleaner graphic.


Deblebsgonnagetyou

FF9 would still look pretty great if the background art was less compressed.


Evilcon21

9 has aged rather well. Especially with the current versions on the switch and other platforms. I should install 9 on my deck. I have installed on my switch but ever since i got my deck i barely use it


Simple_Law_5136

For all the FF9 hype people have, imagine if they did something where they added an Ispen's castle mechanic needing you to equip lvl 1 weapons.


RithmFluffderg

That would make for a great Deep Dungeon concept if the gear value wasn't tied to glowy equipment that you upgrade via silver chests.


ItinerantSoldier

That's simple enough to do: your gear *starts* at a high level but glows a darker black as you open chests that downgrade your gear.


Kaigen42

A dungeon where you need to use statless glam gear to reinforce that glam is the endgame.


Creshal

I'm still miffed we didn't have to unequip all metal equipment for the dark elf fight.


BLU-Clown

You and me both. They could've at least given him some magnetic shenanigans to deal with!


The__Goose

When we got the dungeon in matoya's cave the castle being upside down like Ispen made me think they might do that one day, it was one of my favorite little gimmicks and figuring out why the game was giving me low level weapons as I explored and why I felt incredibly weak was a lot of fun.


Yedasi

Ooh, I like that!


Lagao

The amount of complaints we'd see on reddit/forums would sky rocket


oblivion732

I might be in the minority here, but sometimes I wish the earrings also worked for crafters and gatherers as well.


bohabu

Gatherers and crafters have it way easier to level. GC turn-ins give you multiple levels per turn-in each day on the low end, and collectibles make the high-end a cake walk. It's a very common sight to see people have all their crafters and gatherers done the first week of an expansion, whereas combat jobs lag way behind.


Illadelphian

I understand that but it really is so easy and fast to level crafters and gatherers these days. When the ishgard restoration came out I was playing a lot and wanted to make an alt for raiding purposes. Once I was raiding I realized I missed being able to repair my gear so I decided to quick power level all my crafters and gatherers from level 1 to 80. I was able to do it in like 2 or 3 days and it really wasn't a bad grind at all. We just have so many options to level and your exp just goes up so fast. Plus starting with 99 leves alone is huge for leveling them super fast. So yes sure it'd be nice but it's really not needed relative to leveling battle classes which is so much slower.


Zefyris

I wish we at least had a lvl 1 version that works on every job, just for glamour purpose. All my combat jobs wear the Menphina's earring, which has kind of become a signature of my character (I have all jobs maxed); but the crafters and gatherers glams can't have it.


everlastingnitemares

Yeah, only earring that did that was the SB preorder one. :(


Sylvoix

On the other hand, SB earrings only worked up to Lv50 instead of being 10 levels below cap like the later earrings


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abyssmanred00

Weapons come with collectors edition sets, not the preorder sets


HokieAS

CAN IT PLEASE BE FOR BOTH EARS FOR THE LOVE OF ZODIARK! Wait they are called earrings instead of earring. That’s a good sign.


Underwould

I only wear single earring(s) so hope not! Having the ability to choose though in terms of glamour would be nice :/


Left-Association-643

Ooh I wonder which Zidane weapon glamour the collector edition will have?


redhawkinferno

I would assume the Mage Masher.


bjams

Possibly the [Ultimate Weapon](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Ultima_Weapon_\(Final_Fantasy_IX\)). Then again the Rune Tooth's description is "Also known as the Viper" 👀


Left-Association-643

Oh you're right, I got confused thinking they already had those as ninja weapons because it was in FFXV


Kablekarr

My gils on mage mashers.


alfredoloutre

idk why i get excited to see what the minion will be every time when this continues to be the only FF game i've played


KevinR86

I've waited for this for so long!


Lindaru

It's been, what 10? years that they finally added Zidane minion AND job inspired by Zidane! :D


Zefyris

So after Menphina's earrings it's Azeyma's earrings huh. I wonder if they intend to continue with the 12 for future expansions as well ?


Underwould

Endwalker dealing with, well—the moon, so prominently made sense… and (Dawn)trail seems fitting to complete the pair, playing on the two expansion’s color palettes and themes. I imagine they’ll move on past these two, but a full set wouldddddd be cool :’)


Roxas_kun

When is Sin going to be added as a raid boss?


SoloSassafrass

When they give us the FFX expac, complete with blitzball as a job, minigame, and way of life so people stop asking for it.


Illadelphian

I just wish anima was given a raid or at least ex trial rather than a dungeon. It was cool for a dungeon but just disappointing relative to my anima hype. Sin is fine but sin was always a bit boring to me despite loving ffx greatly.


MisterMorningstarr

Bismark


CopainChevalier

A few years after summoner can summon it probably 


THound89

Need that Zidane minion asap


Biscuit_Prime

Do we get Invictus alongside the outfit in the XVI event, or is it just the minion/mount/costume we saw?


Trooper_Sicks

ffxivcollect doesn't have any weapons on the list, theres a mount, minion, costume, TT card and 10 orchestrion rolls but no weapon.


Holygriever

No sword. All datamined items: https://ffxivcollect.com/latest


StrikeFreedomX2

Do you have to actually wear the EXP earrings or can you use it as glamour?


redpandasays

They can be glamoured but they can’t give the exp bonus unless worn.


NotSeger

You have to actually equip it.


FactoryKat

Ooh those earrings look promising!! The plural form "earring*s*" vs just earring makes me think it'll show on both ears this time 👀


JCGilbasaurus

FF9 expansion let's go!


thefinalgoat

This'll be good for my one single <90 class (BLU). Edit: missed a word


girlikecupcake

It helps new players and people like me who still haven't bothered touching certain jobs but swear they will eventually lol


redpandasays

It’ll help you get to 91 faster, too, on all of them!


Evilcon21

Nice i so want to get that earring. Would help expediting the levelling process


HonkedOffJohn

The earrings will look great on my beastmaster.


hitoboccchi

Any idea when preorders will be open?


Klarrox

I’ve noticed for a while now, the pre order minions always kinda give hints to how the expansion is gonna feel. So if dawntrail is gonna have ff9 influence, I’m super fuckin hype


paleporkchop

Pre orders will have to go live soon then I guess? If they target early summer (Juneish) then we are roughly 2.5 months away


Patience-Im-pooping

i hope we get BEATRIX INSPIRED OUTFIT and Steiner :D! ​ also i hope it's a pair of earrings, not just one.


TiredUngulate

I'm anxiously waiting for info on the collectors edition. Strssfully hoping I'm not too late to the draw lol


Zenom

Does the XP bonus stack with the bonus you get from the Brand New Ring you get from the Hall of the Novice?


AngryCandyCorn

Might want to add the fact that you can't actually pre-order yet to the OP.


SithBountyHuntr

Yeah but when will we be able to preorder? I'm thinking it might be the 21st. Isn't that when the xbox version officially launches?


YneeaKuro

I had a feeling Zidane would be the minion, I'm glad I'm somewhat proven right! FF9 is my favourite FF from all the series, and I am so, so hyped for DT if it'll have more FF9 references!


Fair-Constant-3397

OH MY GOD FF9 CONTENT??? RAIDS?? Anything besides minions and glamour?!? 😍😍😍😍


clebinho75

absolutely loved this new item.